1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Heather Dup to see Allen. As we know, tourism numbers 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: are not flashed. That's New Zealand revealed last week the 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: tourism numbers have dropped for the second month in a row. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: One suggestion to fix this is that we raise the 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: upper age limit of our working holiday visa. It's currently 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: at thirty, why not take it all the way to fifty. 7 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: The idea has come from Tim Alp, the managing director 8 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: of Lilo. Hey. 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: Tim, hey, ever, how are you going? 10 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm well, thanks? Do you reckon people up to the 11 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: age of fifty want to come here and work? 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I think I think definitely there's definitely 13 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 2: interest from people who are a little more flexible in 14 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: terms of the stage of life and who are really 15 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 2: keen to do you know, post COVID to look at 16 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: sort of working holiday adventures. 17 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 1: Like what kind of areas would they work in? 18 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I think in all areas around hospitality, tourism. They 19 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: want to come down here. See They'll see that they're 20 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: a bit more disposable time come down here and travel 21 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: and also work and you know, it might be cafes, 22 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: might be fruit picking, it might be on ski fields. 23 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Are these I mean, a lot of people between the 24 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: ages of thirty and fifty have families because we leave 25 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: it till so late nowadays to have babies. So are 26 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: you thinking about people who are childless? 27 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: Oh, both childless and people who want to potentially come 28 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: down with families and travel. But I think what we 29 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: last seeing is people are going, Actually, I can work 30 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: remotely nowadays, so we've obviously seen the digital visa change 31 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: and no man visa change, which has been quite attractive. 32 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: But just people who are a bit more flexible who 33 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 2: may want to come down. I just think by limiting 34 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: it to thirty or to thirty five, we aren't that 35 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: competitive with the likes of Australia and Canada, you know, 36 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: who are killing it. 37 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: And also tim, I mean, aren't people in the a 38 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, especially when you sort of start having that 39 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: forty aren't you sort of the height of your career 40 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: or getting into it so you probably want to stick 41 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: it out wherever you are. 42 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: Oh. I think some people are definitely in that, But 43 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: I think some people are also having a bit of 44 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: life changing experiences as well and going Actually, there's sometimes 45 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: there's more to life than focusing one hundred percent on 46 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: my career. I want to take a bit of a break. 47 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: I want to take six months a year off. I 48 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: just think it gives flexibility and we are seeing an 49 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: increase in that, so why not cater towards it? 50 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Well there's no downside is there if we 51 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: do this? 52 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: No, there's no downside at all. If anything, it makes 53 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: us a lot more competitive globally. And people who are 54 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: wanting to take up this opportunity. 55 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: What's going on with tourism? How bad is it? 56 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: Oh? It's tough here, you know, it's definitely tough. I mean, look, 57 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: there are some green shoots in the horizon, but you know, 58 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: when you lock yourself down for a couple of years, 59 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: it's hard to bounce back up again, right, and so, 60 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: and we are competing in a very hugely competitive market globally, 61 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: and that's the reason why I'm sort of saying, well, 62 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: why put the barriers up? Why don't we just introduce 63 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 2: new things to make it more and more attractive. 64 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: Your minister is the minister and irresponsible for this would 65 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: be Erica Stanford, wouldn't. 66 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: It, Louise Upton? 67 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Allu and have you chatted to her about it? 68 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I haven't chatted her about the specific one, 69 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: but she's definitely taking a pretty proactive approach. I think 70 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: the government's finally realize that tourism is a huge contributor, 71 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 2: should be the number one expert inner it's not right now, 72 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 2: and there's a really good opportunity for us to sort 73 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: of pull ourselves out of sort of some of the 74 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: state that we're in right now if we really embrace tourism. 75 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 2: But we've got to get out there and market New 76 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Zealand as a place to come to. Airlines got to 77 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: come on board as well and make it a lot 78 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: more attractive to get here. And but once to hear 79 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: we know they love it. We just got to open 80 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: ourselves up and be a lot more lot hattering good stuff. 81 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Tim, thanks so much, appreciate it. That's Tim alp Lilo 82 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Managing Director. For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen 83 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: live to news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 84 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.