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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views. The Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Rainthrover leading by example, news togs, Dead be.

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Speaker 2: Building and Welcome Today, jobs stats are We're about to

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Speaker 2: turn the employment corner. We've got the foreshore and sea

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Speaker 2: bed that's go. After being bogged down and caught, we

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Speaker 2: look at the wine and the scream why so many

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Speaker 2: grapes had left on the vine these days? Mark and

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Speaker 2: Jinny pony up after Ray, Charles Feldman does Americus, Steve does,

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Speaker 2: Ohs pasking Welcome to the day, seven past six. So

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Speaker 2: the big deal about today in jobs is not the

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Speaker 2: fire points something. It's the vibe. I mean, fire point one,

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Speaker 2: five point two, five point three means nothing to most

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Speaker 2: of us. The is it up is what counts, along

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Speaker 2: with the is it up more than we thought or

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Speaker 2: not as much as we thought. You see, when the

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Speaker 2: job numbers came out Saturday in America, it had the

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Speaker 2: not as good as we thought vibe, and that led

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Speaker 2: to a woman getting sacked because the president desperately needed

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Speaker 2: something to deflect from the fact he's tanking the economy. Here,

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Speaker 2: nothing is dramatic will happen. Of course, most of the

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Speaker 2: market watches seem to agree it'll be up a bit,

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Speaker 2: possibly to five point three from five point one. Of

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Speaker 2: equal import is the participation rate, what center job us

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Speaker 2: are employed? Are the utilization rates? Also important, that's the

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Speaker 2: number of people who have worked but wouldn't mind a

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Speaker 2: bit more of it. For the government, this is the

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Speaker 2: really important bit, but it won't be answered today. Is

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Speaker 2: the is that it is today the worst of it

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Speaker 2: excepting that jobs are the last part of the economy

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Speaker 2: to come right and a turn around or a reboot,

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Speaker 2: a resurgence, or whatever it is we're supposed to be experiencing.

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Speaker 2: Then the big fingers crossed part for the government is

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Speaker 2: will we look back on the June quarter of twenty

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Speaker 2: five and say five point three was the bleakest it got, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, glass half full at one point a

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Speaker 2: while back most people at a peak of five point

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Speaker 2: five and summers high as six. So if today is

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Speaker 2: five point three at a peak, wasn't the end of

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Speaker 2: the world, was it? But tell that to a person

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Speaker 2: who lost their job? Of course? Also, remember today is Darta.

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Speaker 2: From April, May and June, we're in Q three now July, August, September.

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Speaker 2: Are we seeing see right here right now, are we

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Speaker 2: seeing anything on the improved job wise? I mean our

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Speaker 2: adds up or applications per job done. Then we come

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Speaker 2: to wages. Wages will be produced today, wages a tip

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Speaker 2: to be a bit over time two percent inflations well

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Speaker 2: over two percent, So that's called going backwards, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure that's peaked either. Yes, we have signs of

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Speaker 2: economic light, but boy do you need a strong torch

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Speaker 2: to see it. So let's hope today helps.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Middle East, where we may or may not find out

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Speaker 2: definitively whether nt Nyahu's going all in on Gaza. There

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Speaker 2: is though a growing list of Israelis with issues.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid we shall have to move to take over

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Speaker 1: the entre.

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Speaker 3: But if the military has an idea that enables us

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Speaker 3: to reach the same goal without taking above all of Gaza, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure that the government is going to look

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Speaker 1: at it.

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Speaker 2: This ran the place not long ago.

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Speaker 4: The time has come for these rails to show their

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Speaker 4: opposition in a not unclear terms, which needs to go

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Speaker 4: to the streets with seeming disobedience.

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Speaker 2: That's a hood. By the way, we have a report

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Speaker 2: from the US Coast Guard. Have they've been looking into

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Speaker 2: that explosion of the Titan?

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Speaker 5: Do you report picked our Ocean Gates in adequate design, certification,

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Speaker 5: maintenance and inspects and process for the Titan. There are

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Speaker 5: allegations of a toxic workplace culture at Ocean Gates. There

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Speaker 5: was an inadequate domestic and international regulatory framework and an

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Speaker 5: ineffective whistleber process.

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Speaker 2: Perhaps from that was going smoothly. Did in Britain couple

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Speaker 2: of things. Firstly the one in one out that they've

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Speaker 2: got with France on the legal migrant starts today.

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Speaker 6: We obviously want to be able to expand it as

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Speaker 6: much as possible, but we are trialing this and we've

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Speaker 6: been very clear about this being a pilot program.

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Speaker 2: Tories have already worked out what they think.

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Speaker 7: This is not going to make any difference whatsoever.

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Speaker 8: Fifty at best migrants being swapped with France is not

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Speaker 8: going to stop the booths.

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Speaker 2: Could she be right? We also have a growing list

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Speaker 2: around funding or an issue around funding for these GLP

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Speaker 2: one drugs. It's the old supply demand issue.

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Speaker 6: NHS England says that obesity costs the NHS eleven point

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Speaker 6: four billion pounds per annum as a pure NHS cost. Okay,

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Speaker 6: and we can't even afford to properly fund the role

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Speaker 6: out of life engine drug in year one just doesn't

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Speaker 6: make any sense.

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Speaker 2: Finally, Zoo talk Mark they're asking pet owners to donate

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Speaker 2: unwanted guinea pigs, rabbits, chickens and small horses. A bit

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Speaker 2: of a leap from a guinea pig to a small

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Speaker 2: horse really is in the meginner anyway. They want to

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Speaker 2: feed them to the zoo's predators, you know, your alligators,

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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. They want to enteritate, the

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Speaker 2: imitate the natural food chain of the animals. Que the

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Speaker 2: social media outrage of Keith woe enough from people with

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Speaker 2: urban parts of the world who you don't understand how

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Speaker 2: it would. Here's the world of ninety speaking of not

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Speaker 2: understanding how it all works. They've announced this morning NASA

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Speaker 2: they're going to fast track not only they've already got

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Speaker 2: the plans, but they're not going to fast track the

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Speaker 2: plans to build a nuclear reactor on the Moon. And

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Speaker 2: so you think is that possible, Well, by twenty thirty,

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Speaker 2: which is only five years ago, five years away, ambitions

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Speaker 2: are to build a permanent base for US to live there.

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Speaker 2: This has all been driven by China and Russia, two

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Speaker 2: countries could potentially declare a keepout zone on the Moon.

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Speaker 2: So the America's going to have been exercised about that.

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Speaker 2: Coming up twelve six.

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Speaker 2: Tariff Talk. Two hundred and fifty percent. How about those numbers?

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Speaker 2: A two hundred and fifty percent, he thinks Trump says

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Speaker 2: from farmer fires are probably didn't help. Fires came out

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Speaker 2: overnight and bump their profit guidance top wall streets expectations.

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Speaker 2: They reckon. They're going to bring in revenue for this

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Speaker 2: year of somewhere between sixty one and sixty four billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: So there's a debate still do fully unfold. Fourteen past

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Speaker 2: six week m j am I Well, Panty tallaher, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Wednesday.

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Speaker 9: Very good morning, MIKEE.

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Speaker 2: And every second Wednesday is Global Dairy Auction Day and

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Speaker 2: we always love those. At the moment of the day,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's not booming, but it hasn't disappointed no, No.

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Speaker 8: I think we probably had the collective cy of relief

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Speaker 8: across the country. Back on the fifteenth of July, when

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Speaker 8: that was the last auction when the price index rose

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Speaker 8: one point one percent of that followed those four consecutive

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Speaker 8: auctions of falling prices. So overnight, yeah, steady as she goes.

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Speaker 8: I think outcome really with the price index lifting zero

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Speaker 8: point seven percent and the global media sensation that is butter.

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Speaker 8: I note that the price has fallen three point eight

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Speaker 8: percent in the auction. Not sure what or whether that

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Speaker 8: has any material impact on the cost of a five

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Speaker 8: hundred grams of butter any local supermarket.

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Speaker 10: I suspect it doesn't.

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Speaker 8: But croissant makers around the world will be breathing aside

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Speaker 8: of relief, won't they. So two big product skim milk powder,

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Speaker 8: whole milk powder. They are both up zero point four

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Speaker 8: percent of skill whole mik powder plus two point one percent.

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Speaker 10: Look, look, I think we can relax a little bit.

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Speaker 8: I think there isn't a precipitous market decline in dairy prices.

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Speaker 8: So we had those four auctions, but it's stabilized now generally.

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Speaker 10: I would just comment, Mike, the AZ Commodity Price.

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Speaker 8: Index was released yesterday. That index did fall in July,

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Speaker 8: and dairy products, dairy product prices.

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Speaker 10: Did weigh on that index.

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Speaker 8: But if you look at the whole year, just take

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Speaker 8: a wee step back, the commodity price index is up

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Speaker 8: ten point seven percent over the twelve months, so it

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Speaker 8: has been a very healthy year for the commodity prices

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Speaker 8: that are important to us.

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Speaker 2: Thank the Good Lord. Do we see light in China? Andrew, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is interesting.

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Speaker 8: So look in the postal of Global Dairy Trade Auction

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Speaker 8: and Analysis, we always do look at the role of

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Speaker 8: Asia and the bidding.

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Speaker 10: Is China buying our dairy products, so look, it's a

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Speaker 10: key export partner.

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Speaker 8: And Mike I said, we always do try and keep

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Speaker 8: a watchful lie on how the Chinese economy is developing.

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Speaker 8: Last week we spoke about the official the government calculated PMI,

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Speaker 8: the Pitching Managers Index in.

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Speaker 10: China, and it was weak.

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Speaker 8: There are ongoing concerns about the health of the manufacturing

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Speaker 8: sector in China, the clearly elevated level of tension or

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Speaker 8: trade tension in China, and the US still in a

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Speaker 8: trade deal, and look that global trade reorganization reset inevitably

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Speaker 8: will impact on manufacturing China. But yesterday we had the

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Speaker 8: release of what's called the Kaijun PMI This is the

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Speaker 8: S and P Global China General Services PMI, So the

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Speaker 8: services sector it's a private's, non government figure and it

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Speaker 8: was more buoyant.

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Speaker 9: Mike.

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Speaker 8: We see the service sector is expanding at a stronger.

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Speaker 10: Pace at the start of the third quarter.

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Speaker 8: Headline business activity rows to fifty two point six in July.

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Speaker 8: That's up from fifty point six in June. So expansion

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Speaker 8: of the services sector in China. The thing is, Mike,

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Speaker 8: is the services sector has been consistently positive for about

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Speaker 8: two and a half years. It's been over fifty. So

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Speaker 8: it's not the problem, as I said, it's the manufacturing

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Speaker 8: issues of the problem, and a continuation of the hangover

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Speaker 8: of that sort of property market, the terrible property market

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Speaker 8: issues that they had. And I suppose quickly, Mike, while

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Speaker 8: we're talking about key export partners the other ones.

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Speaker 10: Australia.

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Speaker 8: Household spending numbers released in Australia they looked pre robust,

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Speaker 8: a little below expectation, four point eight percent lift.

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Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. Explain it to me just really quickly, because

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Speaker 2: they're confidence numbers are the highest that came out. You

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Speaker 2: higher than three years. You can't afford a house. There

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Speaker 2: were one point seven million in Sydney. Their interest rates

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Speaker 2: aren't necessarily any better than ours are. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: are they just fundamentally better than we are?

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Speaker 10: Well, look what was what's the nickname? The Lucky Country?

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Speaker 8: I mean, ultimately they can always lean back on and

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Speaker 8: lean into, which is you know, one of these one

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Speaker 8: of the cliches that we use these days. But they

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Speaker 8: just did stuff out of the ground and send it

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Speaker 10: They've always got that to fall back on.

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Speaker 8: It's a larger country than us, so over sort of

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Speaker 8: twenty million people, and they just do seem to be

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Speaker 2: They just generate seem more overtly optimistic though, because they

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Speaker 2: were saying yesterday, look there's been a couple of cuts

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Speaker 2: in the interest rates. I mean, well they've gone mental

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Speaker 2: where we've had five or six cuts in the interest

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Speaker 2: rates and you know what I mean, it's not the same. Well,

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if they've got a different mindset.

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Speaker 8: I think the definitely is it is always seen as

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Speaker 8: being a slightly more land of opportunity than the New

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Speaker 2: They do they Braks have a better job market than

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Speaker 2: ours and ours. What are you calling five point three today?

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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 8: So, look, the vibe is that the labor market is

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Speaker 2: The big difference, Mike is that just in Australia, we've

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Speaker 2: So we'll look into that. Other thing I'm interested in

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Speaker 2: Charles Peldman's doing the business and the States for shortly

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Speaker 2: morning to you, good one of Mike. Can the Big

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Speaker 7: I think there's a lot that's been done across the industry,

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Speaker 7: It's definitely that the renewable journey can be a bit

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Speaker 9: What we have been.

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Speaker 7: And so I think there's there's positive signs ahead of us.

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Speaker 7: It's just ultimately, do we have the ability to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I think at the moment, for example, Mercury we're

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Speaker 7: Geo thermal has a huge role to play. About twenty

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Speaker 2: In what year do I get you on this program

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Speaker 7: with the Huntley firming options. I think we're putting ourselves

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Speaker 7: in a really good position and you can see that

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Speaker 7: at the moment with there's a green shoots. I'd say

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Speaker 7: in terms of industrial demand, we're seeing Fonterra electrifying. We've

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Speaker 7: got great projects with the likes of Busy who are

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Speaker 7: committed to twenty years. We've had TII, which is a

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Speaker 7: globally significant industry committee for twenty years and I think

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Speaker 7: when you combine that with a number of interests from

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Speaker 7: data centers, is a fairbit coming at us, which is

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Speaker 7: pretty exciting.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic good insights, Stuart, appreciate your expertise. Stuart Hamilton, chief

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Speaker 2: They're looking for Democrats who have fled in Texas. At

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Speaker 2: percent of the country's volume. This is grapes. We're in

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Speaker 2: two now, so I think we've sorted out the power

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Speaker 2: at least got an explanation. Will do grapes later in

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Speaker 2: Devon controls twenty percent of the country's volume and unbalanced

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Speaker 2: Villa Maria. Yes it does. I disagree with you, and

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Speaker 7: Good morning mite.

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Speaker 2: Now where are we at in Texas? Have they rounded

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Speaker 2: up any of those loose Democrats it or not?

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Speaker 6: Not yet?

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Speaker 15: You know, this is something that, as you know, the

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Speaker 15: Democrats are doing to try to head off a plan

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Speaker 15: by the Republicans in the state of Texas to rework

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Speaker 15: the way the districts are so that the vote come

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Speaker 15: the next election would go more in the favor of

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Speaker 15: the Republican Party. So the Democrats decided to up and

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Speaker 15: leave the state to various places like Illinois in California,

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Speaker 15: and they're saying they're not going to come back until

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Speaker 15: the Republicans dropped the plan, and meantime the Republican governors

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Speaker 15: trying to get them arrested.

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Speaker 7: But it's not particularly clear on what the charge this

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Speaker 7: would be.

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Speaker 2: There is a diet or timeline on this, and after

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Speaker 2: a while the court steps in. Isn't that right?

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Speaker 13: Yes?

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Speaker 15: Yes, But the problem is that this is a civil issue.

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Speaker 15: It's not a criminal issue in the state of Texas.

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Speaker 7: So at most the.

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Speaker 15: Democrats that have fled could be fined a certain amount

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Speaker 15: of money, but I don't think considering the stakes involved,

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Speaker 15: that that is going to weigh particularly heavily on their minds.

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Speaker 2: Okay, talk to me then about Epstein's So we got

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Speaker 2: the House Committee, that's opoenion, the Clinton's, the dogs involved.

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Speaker 2: What will we see in what we see?

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Speaker 15: Well, what you're probably not going to see, Mike, is

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Speaker 15: any great revelations. You know, it doesn't seem as if

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Speaker 15: there's anything about Jeffrey Epstein that is going to come

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Speaker 15: out that has not already leaked over the past few years.

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Speaker 15: But that has not stopped both the Republicans and the Democrats.

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Speaker 15: This is something they both seem to agree on in

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Speaker 15: trying to pursue more files from the Department of Justice

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Speaker 15: and elsewhere to see who was involved with Epstein, who

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Speaker 15: visited his island, who flew with him on his private jet.

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Speaker 15: But again, most of that stuff has already been out

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Speaker 15: there in the public domain, so it's not likely we're

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Speaker 15: going to see any major developments. But it is dragging

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Speaker 15: on and on and on, and it's the story that

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Speaker 15: just keeps on giving.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is west wing. Trump was on the roof,

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming surveying his kingdom.

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Speaker 7: Was he.

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Speaker 15: That's actually a good way of putting it. I can't

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Speaker 15: remember anytime in well actually any time in history when

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Speaker 15: a president of the United States was seen wandering around

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Speaker 15: on the roof of the White House.

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Speaker 7: Apparently he was doing that because you know, he.

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Speaker 15: Fancies himself still a mastered builder, and he has ordered

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Speaker 15: a reworking of everything from the rose garden outside the

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Speaker 15: White House to a ballroom inside the White House. So

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Speaker 15: apparently he was surveying the project. But it is unusual

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Speaker 15: to see the least to see a president on top

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Speaker 15: of the roof.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen one on top

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Speaker 2: of the roof. Charles good to catch up Charles Feldman

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Speaker 2: out of the States this morning. By the way, it's

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Speaker 2: not going to apply to US, I don't think, but

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Speaker 2: they're now looking if you want to go to America

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Speaker 2: for a number of travelers to post fifteen thousand dollars bonds.

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Speaker 2: It's a pilot program basically, if you're from a country

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Speaker 2: with historically high visa over stay or rates, and it's

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Speaker 2: applying to whoever leisure and business travelers as well B

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Speaker 2: one or B two visas, which isn't US. The US

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Speaker 2: Department of State is going to I don't know if

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Speaker 2: they've officially announced it, but it's coming countries with the

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Speaker 2: most overstayers Mexico, Brazil, Columbia, Haiti, and Venezuela. So anywhere

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Speaker 2: between five ten and fifteen thousand dollars by way of

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Speaker 2: a bond you're going to have to stump up. So

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Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of that part of the world, the southern part of

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Speaker 2: the America's Bolsonaro of course, had some very venues from

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Courts, so he's now under house arrest. Trump

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Speaker 2: follows us closely because he thinks Bolscenario is quite a

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Speaker 2: cool guy, so he's already said. I think the last

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Speaker 2: number I saw was fifty percent as in tariff. So

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that what the Supreme Court did yesterday isn't

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Speaker 2: going to help that particular cause. Turn away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking Breakfast with Rainfrow Bern News Togs Dead

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Speaker 1: be Mike.

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Speaker 2: Electricity generators been dragging their feet for years on your renewables.

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Speaker 2: Put simply, you can charge a bigger margin, higher price,

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Speaker 2: just like the banks with mortgage rates. You see have

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Speaker 2: you fallen for the Nikola Willis line? You know, mortgage

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Speaker 2: rates and banks. Where's the competition or the competition is there?

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Speaker 2: We're funding Kiwi Bank. Is that going to fundamentally and

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Speaker 2: profoundly change the market. I don't think so. If there's

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Speaker 2: something obviously, as I've said a million times, wise nicolare

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Speaker 2: doing something about the banks. As regards the generators, I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't underestimate the dulling effect of onslow. That was singularly

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Speaker 2: the stupidest idea in the power industry that jad cinder

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Speaker 2: Raduan had in many a decade. And she said sixteen billion,

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Speaker 2: it would have been thirty plus it would have got built.

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Speaker 2: And while that was going on, you're sitting there as

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Speaker 2: a gent tailor, going, well, if you're building that big

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Speaker 2: bucket down south, why on earth would I invest in

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Speaker 2: anything renewable, because that, in and of itself is the answer.

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Speaker 2: In Devon is interesting. They've been in the news. Well

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Speaker 2: I haven't been in the news. That's part of the problem, unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: But in Devon lately has invested and taken a material

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Speaker 2: staken in Vivo and Vivo you will know from Graham Norton,

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Speaker 2: Sarah Jessica Parker. Of course, I'm not sure that they'm

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Speaker 2: owning a big chunk of the contract. Grapes in this

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Speaker 2: country is necessarily the problem, I think, and we'll find

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Speaker 2: out later because we're doing something about it. I think

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Speaker 2: it's global demand for wine is down and you can't

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Speaker 2: do much about that. I do want to get an

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Speaker 2: answer on the serving on blanc thing, whether we're simply

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Speaker 2: growing too much serving you on blanc in a place

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Speaker 2: like Marlborough and the world just cannot consume ever greater

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Speaker 2: amounts of serving yon blanc. I just wonder if that's

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Speaker 2: we finally sort of kind of hit the wall quickly

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Speaker 2: on colon gassing. We've been onto it, we've moved to

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Speaker 2: twelfth spot investments attractiveness indexes of the Fraser Institute's annual survey.

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Speaker 2: This is global of mining companies. We're seventy two back

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one Finland's top The respondents express decreased

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Speaker 2: concerns regarding uncertainty about which areas would be protected, enforcement

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Speaker 2: of regulations and environmental regulations. Sintana Minerals, for example, they've

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Speaker 2: got the Bend to go Op project at the moment

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Speaker 2: in Central Otago. I feel reassured that we've moved the

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Speaker 2: pendulum back to a more sensible and rational space. So

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Speaker 2: we've gone from seventy two to twelfth, and that's not

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Speaker 2: before time, five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Youm brands. They're international global. This is young brands. They're

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Speaker 2: sort of tied in with restaurant brands, et cetera. But

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Speaker 2: I won't bore you with that anyway. Young brands internationally

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Speaker 2: Q two numbers. They've got Pizza Hut, KFC and Taco Bell.

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Speaker 2: Q two six hundred and thirty three million, up slightly

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Speaker 2: on Q two last year. Net sales up ten percent,

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Speaker 2: same source sales up to Is this all good?

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Speaker 5: Ah?

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Speaker 2: You got to look into the where's the gold? Well,

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Speaker 2: the gold is internationally, not America. That's the story here.

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Speaker 2: International stores are propping up the numbers. KFC two percent

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Speaker 2: same store sales, but that's thanks to international restaurants, especially

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Speaker 2: in China. Same store in America down five. They already

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Speaker 2: dropped last year from third biggest chicken chain to the

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Speaker 2: fifth biggest chicken chain, dropping sales at three point six percent.

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Speaker 2: Pizza Hut same store down one internationally, down five domestically

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Speaker 2: in America. Those two five percent drops for KFC and

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Speaker 2: Pizza Hut, by the way, the third worst, behind only

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Speaker 2: COVID and the GFC. So they've got major problems young

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Speaker 2: brands making the money. We're at Taco Bell. Everyone's left

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Speaker 2: a Taco Bell, increasing same store sales of four percent.

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Speaker 2: Americans love the chicken at Taco Bell. Can they tell

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Speaker 2: us chicken? Do they know it's chicken? Does it matter

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Speaker 2: Tiger exactly? Taco Bell chicken sales are up fifty percent

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Speaker 2: in the last two years. They haven't had a negative

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Speaker 2: week in that time at all at Taco Bell because.

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Speaker 17: It all the free advertising from Taco Trump.

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Speaker 2: We'll be there jobs five to one, five two five

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Speaker 2: three all that, as I tried to say earlier on

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Speaker 2: I don't I think that's the talking point. The talking

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Speaker 2: point today is a it's retrospective but be as this,

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Speaker 2: have we turned a corner? Or is there more where

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Speaker 2: that came from? And the Foreshaw and Seaboard bid at last,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell have been doing, but

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Speaker 2: the government of moving on this, the Justice Minister respect

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Speaker 2: whether it's after the news, which is next?

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Speaker 2: Th seven past seven, So job's day Hot money seems

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Speaker 2: to be an increase to five point three percent. Next

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Speaker 2: question is that it have we turned the corner? Mark

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Speaker 2: Smith as ASB senior economists back with us, Mark morning, Good.

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Speaker 18: Morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are you at five point three?

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Speaker 18: Yes, we are, Yeah, most of the marketers at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And five point three with a view to what for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the year trending down or we don't know,

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Speaker 2: We don't.

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Speaker 18: Know simply, but probably the risk is going to go

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Speaker 18: up for a while and hopefully go down. Probably the

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Speaker 18: important thing to note those the economy is lost and

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Speaker 18: it sinks about forty thousand jobs since the late time

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Speaker 18: in twenty three peak, and in terms of the falls

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Speaker 18: to jobs, it's been more for full time rather than

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Speaker 18: part time work. So really about labor market, it's getting

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Speaker 18: that much weaker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, can you put that in an historical context? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how often do we go around losing forty thousand jobs.

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Speaker 18: Recently?

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Speaker 7: Rare?

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Speaker 18: Normally we do actually take on people. Now it's pretty

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Speaker 18: much the reverse is happening in terms of the drivers.

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Speaker 18: The New Zealand economy is not really copied much of

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Speaker 18: a break. We've been hit by a number of bad

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Speaker 18: news events and they're accumulating at the moment. And what's

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Speaker 18: really happening is the unemployment rate is five point three percent,

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Speaker 18: the highest in twenty sixteen at the world We've high

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Speaker 18: over the next few months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, have you changed your view on that? Because it

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Speaker 2: was a while back a lot of us were saying

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Speaker 2: five to five and I but I can't remember who

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Speaker 2: it was, but somebody had gotten toward dangerously towards six.

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Speaker 2: Then we all seem to amend ourselves while we thought

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Speaker 2: that twenty five was going to be this utopia, which

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Speaker 2: it's not turning out to be. So have you changed

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Speaker 2: your view?

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Speaker 18: I think we've changed our view. In terms of how

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Speaker 18: much labor forces going by now we expect to be

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Speaker 18: essentially flat. To put that into context, the labor market

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Speaker 18: was growing about five percent a year a couple of

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Speaker 18: years ago, so it's very much the case of much

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Speaker 18: fewer people coming in. Migration is essentially slowed as well

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Speaker 18: as that prospect defines a job as much lower, so

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Speaker 18: people are staying out of the labor market.

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Speaker 2: If we get five to three today, with a broad

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Speaker 2: feeling that it might not be over yet, what's the

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Speaker 2: RB do.

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Speaker 18: I think they'll they'll look at that certainly, but really

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Speaker 18: the thing for them will be what's happening on the

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Speaker 18: pricing and cost sight of economy in terms of our

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Speaker 18: higher unemployment rate. That's what it really means. There's lots

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Speaker 18: of more capacity in the economy. We're also seeing way

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Speaker 18: to the labor cost growth slow. We expect labor cost

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Speaker 18: growth slope for the lowest in four years now. What

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Speaker 18: it already means is the Reserve Bank would be more

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Speaker 18: confident that inflation will conmuse to two percent over next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the problem is of the number of the

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Speaker 2: day is too inflations higher than two. That's in simple

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Speaker 2: Layman's terms, we're going backwards.

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Speaker 18: Well, I think what is tried to look through this?

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Speaker 18: It's near to spike in inflation. I think most people

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Speaker 18: expect inflation to takes up to around three percent by

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Speaker 18: the second half of this year. But the real key

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Speaker 18: thing though, there's a lot of speck susy economy weight

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Speaker 18: growth is low and as a result, we like to

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Speaker 18: see inflation called from around three percent by sort of

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Speaker 18: later this year to around two percent and the Reserve

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Speaker 18: Bank can look through the spike inflation and cut the

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Speaker 18: OCR further.

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Speaker 2: Good insight, Mark, appreciate your expertise has always make smith

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Speaker 2: out of the ASB. This whole looking through thing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the RB can look through whatever they like. We don't

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Speaker 2: look through the insurance bill or the rates bill or

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Speaker 2: the power Wouldn't it be nice if that just turned

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Speaker 2: up in the letterbox and go, oh no, we'll look

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Speaker 2: through that. Actually, ten minutes past seven, pask getting the

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Speaker 2: green light on the foreshore and sea Beard been stuck

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Speaker 2: in court of course, but essentially we're looking to head

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Speaker 2: back to twenty eleven, to the way it has been

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Speaker 2: when it comes to customary title. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: back with us. Paul morning, Oh, good morning. What have

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Speaker 2: you been doing. It's been in core. I mean the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court ruled in twenty twenty three, but mucking around

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Speaker 2: what's going on?

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Speaker 12: No, no, no, not twenty three. What happened was it

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Speaker 12: was the Court of Appeal that ruled, which sort of

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Speaker 12: ignored the second part of our test, which was a

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Speaker 12: high test before customary Marine title was awarded. That is

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Speaker 12: because it has real consequences, it's got valuable rights and

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Speaker 12: it has the ability owners of to CMT have the

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Speaker 12: ability to turn down resource consents for certain things on

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Speaker 12: the coastal area. So that's why we had a high test.

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Speaker 12: Court of Appeal did that at the end of twenty three.

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Speaker 12: We introduced this legislation last year and it went off

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Speaker 12: to Select committee and then the Supreme Court overturned the

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Speaker 12: Court of Appeal and that's what complicated things. We've spent

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Speaker 12: a couple we've spent a bit of time just working

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Speaker 12: our way through the consequences of that and now we've

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Speaker 12: resolved to press on with the Supreme Court did half

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Speaker 12: the job, but we wanted.

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Speaker 2: To do what if the Supreme Court hadn't gone against

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Speaker 2: the Appeal Court.

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Speaker 12: Well, then we would have just carried on with our

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Speaker 12: legislation and passed it in decended.

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Speaker 2: Exactly because Hi, Paul, you are the ultimate court in

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Speaker 2: the land. Who gives the monkeys what the appeal court says?

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Speaker 12: Well, no, I mean, we obviously take very seriously what

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Speaker 12: Supreme Court says and.

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Speaker 2: All the ultimate court of the land. If you want

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Speaker 2: to do something, do it.

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Speaker 12: Yes, But you know, we take these things seriously and

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Speaker 12: we think through the consequences of it all, and we're

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Speaker 12: clear of what we want to achieve, which is that

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Speaker 12: we want to be able to provide the opportunity for

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Speaker 12: Mari customary rights to be recognized. But we also want

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Speaker 12: to protect the legitimate interests of all New Zealanders because

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Speaker 12: everybody obviously has an interest.

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Speaker 2: In workings on the coastal area. Yes, we do.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Basically, you're going back to twenty eleven, right, because you

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Speaker 2: had it sorted in twenty eleven. It's just a few

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Speaker 2: agitators hired. I'm sure at taxpayers expense some lawyers to

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Speaker 2: go to the Appeal Court then the Supreme Court. That's

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Speaker 2: how it unfolded, wasn't it.

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Speaker 12: Well, I mean lots of people argue about all these

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Speaker 12: legal issues, and so what we're trying to be clear

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Speaker 12: about is that, yes, we want to have the opportunity

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Speaker 12: for people to go get customer marine title, but that

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Speaker 12: does have real valuable rights and that's why Parliament's at

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Speaker 12: a high bar. We want to make sure that there

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Speaker 12: is a high bar.

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Speaker 2: Are we any materially different? Once you get this lot

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Speaker 2: through from where we were in twenty eleven, Well, that's

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Speaker 2: where Parliament thought it was in twenty eleven, but of

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Speaker 2: course this all goes through the courts. And but that's

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Speaker 2: my point. So you knew where you were because the

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Speaker 2: ultimate Court of the Land in twenty eleven made a

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Speaker 2: very clear statement on what it was, and you somehow

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Speaker 2: katau to these court proceedings and decided to muck around

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Speaker 2: since twenty eleven on this and finally we're getting back

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Speaker 2: to where we were in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 12: No, I don't think that's quite an accurate timeline. The

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Speaker 12: law was passed in twenty eleven and then it took

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Speaker 12: about ten years before some significant cases reached the High

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Speaker 12: Court and that's when we saw the consequences of the

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Speaker 12: interpretation and that's what we're set to correct at the moment.

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Speaker 12: And so I want to be very clear about those

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Speaker 12: thresholds that there's two sort of things that have to

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Speaker 12: be determined Tikunga and then secondly undisturbed possessions. Since eving

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Speaker 12: forty timeline on what you're doing now, when's it ticked off?

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Speaker 12: We're just finalizing the drafting. We hope to get it

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Speaker 12: all done by October.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time as always. Paul Smith. Paul Goldsmith, the

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Speaker 2: Justice Minister, thirteen minutes past seven, Real quick. It was

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Speaker 2: this ISHU the time yesterday we were talking to fed

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Speaker 2: farmers very upset about Canterbury. It was but rural policing generally.

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Speaker 2: Police got in touch with us yesterday. Basically they're not

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Speaker 2: reducing our numbers. Changed the way they're deployed basically, but

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Speaker 2: not reducing numbers. Important to note we're not planning to

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Speaker 2: close any police stations or front counters. We serve many

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Speaker 2: of our communities better by expanding our twenty four seven

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Speaker 2: coverage and I want our community to know they're open

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Speaker 2: to feedback. That is the Superintendent Tony Hill speaking this week.

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Speaker 2: The police from around the district will be attending community meetings.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's not as simple as that, because the

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Speaker 2: fed farmers are furious and the police are trying to

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Speaker 2: spar I get all of that, but I don't know

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Speaker 2: that it's as bad as the fed farm has made

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Speaker 2: it up to be. This time yesterday, fourteen past.

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Speaker 2: A'd be now seventeen past seven? More change in education?

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Speaker 2: How about AI doing that marking? As of twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: AI is going to be doing the bulk of the

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Speaker 2: marking for ENCEEA and this new national certificate. So Doctor

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Speaker 2: Catherine Mcallum is the Associate Professor of Digital Education Futures

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Speaker 2: at the University of Canterbury. And as with us, good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. Is there an issue around when we talk

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Speaker 2: about AI and marking? Is there an issue AI now

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Speaker 2: versus AI when it actually comes in? Could it be

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Speaker 2: exponentially different or are we sort of on top of this.

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Speaker 19: Oh, I think it's changing quite rapidly, So I think

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Speaker 19: what it looks like now will be completely different.

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Speaker 18: But I do think.

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Speaker 19: Fundamentally and issues that we're addressing now won't change, so

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Speaker 19: how it's used, what are the manipulations is not changing.

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Speaker 2: What do you I mean, are you bullish on this?

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Speaker 2: Is this a good idea generally or not?

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Speaker 19: I mean, I think this is the problem when we're

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Speaker 19: talking about AI marking. It's not a black and white solution.

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Speaker 19: So yes, I can see potential and advantages, but I

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Speaker 19: also see that whole fell adoption is not the solution either.

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Speaker 19: And if we're bringing this into a you know, a

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Speaker 19: efficiency or a workload, it's addressing the wrong problem.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 19: We need to rather think about what assessment looks like.

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Speaker 2: Now this is my whole thing. See were they It's

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Speaker 2: like any of these technological advancements we get. We're on

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Speaker 2: the bandwagon, aren't we. It's suddenly the answer to everything,

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Speaker 2: when in reality it will prove not to be. It

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Speaker 2: might be an improvement, but it's not utopia, is it.

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 19: No, I mean this is the issue is that we're solved.

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Speaker 19: This ideal that AI is a solution is silver bullets

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Speaker 19: or something. But equally it brings its own complexities and problems,

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Speaker 19: so it will solve in one problem, one area, but

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Speaker 19: it's we're not addressing I think the root issue, which

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Speaker 19: is how we are using AI and how it's changing

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Speaker 19: assessments and how we're supporting our students to engage in

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Speaker 19: this space appropriately to support their learning.

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Speaker 2: Is it as simple as saying it'll do well in

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Speaker 2: maths and everyone has gone one plus one equals to

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Speaker 2: we'll get a correct answer. But if you do it

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Speaker 2: dealing with concepts or ideas or writing in English and

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Speaker 2: things like that, we might have an issue.

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Speaker 19: Yes, yeah, definitely, And I think that's the that's the

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Speaker 19: problem around possibly that pilot space because it is about

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Speaker 19: it was used in a very fundamental way. It's really

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Speaker 19: easy to identify some simple answers, but if you're bringing

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Speaker 19: judgments into the process, it's not trained to do that,

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Speaker 19: and there are weaknesses, there are biases that we're bringing

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Speaker 19: into that. So judgment is that that's the typical and

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Speaker 19: that's where we need teach it in the.

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Speaker 20: Space, not AI.

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Speaker 2: pasking Tim in twenty three. Now the stark reality of

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Speaker 2: music linear television. If Irene Gardener, who was on the

912
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Speaker 2: program at this time yesterday, was right, it's fairly simple.

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Speaker 2: So here's how the calculation works. You make a product, right,

914
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Speaker 2: you stick it on air, You get an audience, You

915
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Speaker 2: sell advertising based on that audience. Now, some programs can

916
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 2: never hope to get the sort of audience to pay

917
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Speaker 2: for the cost of the show. Inter government support or

918
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Speaker 2: brand sponsorship in other words, are financial support mechanism to

919
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Speaker 2: make a show that would not otherwise have been made. Now,

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Speaker 2: I made a show Sunday years back. It was on

921
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Speaker 2: TV three on the weekend, off peak. Didn't rate very well,

922
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Speaker 2: but it was never going to. But it rated fairly

923
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Speaker 2: well for what it was, which was a niche program

924
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Speaker 2: talking about the arts. It was made with New Zealand

925
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Speaker 2: on air money. Now, does Treasure Island attract more viewers

926
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Speaker 2: than that? Yes it does. So if you're going to

927
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Speaker 2: toss money it's something, why not toss it at that

928
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Speaker 2: more bang for buck? But the money tree hasn't got

929
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Speaker 2: more money, so somebody loses. Maybe it's an arts program.

930
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Speaker 2: Now the really scary thing is the calculation around peak

931
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Speaker 2: time primetime. This is what I learned yesterday. See this

932
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Speaker 2: show that my Cosking Breakfast makes money, lots of money,

933
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Speaker 2: quite a lot of money. Actually ZB is profitable. TV

934
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Speaker 2: and Z and TV three are not. So what about

935
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Speaker 2: pay for view Sky TV that's profitable, but they've got

936
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Speaker 2: the sport. What does TV three or TVNZ have that

937
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Speaker 2: you would pay for? I mean, would you pay to

938
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Speaker 2: watch treasure? And of course you wouldn't. So primetime linear

939
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Speaker 2: television is not profitable apparently because advertising dollars have vanished.

940
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Speaker 2: A Google TikTok and meta Now that's not going to change.

941
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Speaker 2: Game's over and that is the problem because all that

942
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Speaker 2: has left, if you think about it, is the taxpayer.

943
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Speaker 2: The big question is to what extent should the taxpayer

944
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Speaker 2: fund your evening's entertainment? And when I say you, I

945
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Speaker 2: mean those who are left watching the tally as opposed

946
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Speaker 2: to YouTube or Netflix. If linear television can't make a

947
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Speaker 2: bucket seven thirty on a Wednesday night. How long before

948
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Speaker 2: the lights get switched off? Asking Hi, Mike, unemployment, This

949
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Speaker 2: is interesting. Unemployment isn't just about the economy. It's about evolution.

950
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Speaker 2: What we're seeing as a global structural shift driven by

951
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Speaker 2: AI and automation. Jobs aren't vanishing because of slow growth,

952
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: in vanishing because the world of work is being rewritten.

953
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Speaker 2: As you know, it's not a downturn, it's a reset.

954
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: We need to embrace the positive aspects of change, not

955
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Speaker 2: dwell on the need. It's a very good partner. What

956
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Speaker 2: made it better was Murray Crane. That Murray Crane makes

957
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Speaker 2: suits for a living, very good suits, well known. Auckland

958
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Speaker 2: a Tellia. Can I use that word? I think I

959
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: probably can, Mike. This has been another white Tangy tribunal

960
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 2: Gravey train millions spent on claims clearly not complaining with

961
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Speaker 2: the intent of the legislation. Correct. So this is where

962
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Speaker 2: Paul's let himself down. So twenty eleven the law was

963
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Speaker 2: very clear. Some people who hired lawyers, I'm almost certain

964
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Speaker 2: on legal eight thought to themselves, I don't like this law,

965
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Speaker 2: so I'm going to go to court. Nothing wrong with that,

966
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Speaker 2: You're allowed to go to court. So they went to

967
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Speaker 2: the appeals Court and they went isn't it fear? And

968
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Speaker 2: the appeals court because their activist agreed with them. Fortunately

969
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court came in over the top and said, no,

970
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Speaker 2: you're wrong. But at all times, and this is the

971
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Speaker 2: point I was trying to make to Paul, who didn't

972
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Speaker 2: seem to get it, or I think he did get it,

973
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Speaker 2: he just didn't want to get it. At all times,

974
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Speaker 2: the Parliament remained the highest court in the land. If

975
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Speaker 2: all you're ever going to do is pass a law

976
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Speaker 2: and then have it reinterpreted by an activist judge and

977
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Speaker 2: then spend two years hanging around waffling in a cabinet

978
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Speaker 2: room trying to work out what to do, you're not

979
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Speaker 2: running the country, are you.

980
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Speaker 9: Now?

981
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Speaker 2: This is the other importan point. This is a deal.

982
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Speaker 2: This whole Foreshuran Sea bed thing was a deal between

983
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Speaker 2: New Zealand First and National. Read really in New Zealand First,

984
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Speaker 2: who are hot on this, National don't seem to be

985
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Speaker 2: quite as hot on that. And that once again, dare

986
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Speaker 2: I suggest, politically speaking, dovetails into National's ongoing problems. They

987
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Speaker 2: don't look like a party that's actually into much actor

988
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Speaker 2: into it. Like them or not, they're into it. They're

989
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Speaker 2: doing it. New Zealand First are into it. Like it

990
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Speaker 2: or not, They're getting on with it. Nationals seem to

991
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Speaker 2: be we'll have a think and then we'll have a

992
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Speaker 2: talk and then we might come back to you in

993
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Speaker 2: a couple of years. They don't look to me like

994
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Speaker 2: doers and that I think, as shown in the polls,

995
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Speaker 2: could well be part of the problem. Now greats a

996
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Speaker 2: lot left on the vines, particularly in Marlborough. Are the

997
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Speaker 2: golden days coming to an end?

998
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Speaker 1: Your source of freaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts,

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Speaker 2: More from my dodgy poll file and a couple of

1002
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Speaker 2: moments Mike. National are doing stuff e g. The education

1003
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Speaker 2: changes and prove our training opportunities. Reporting that they're doing

1004
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Speaker 2: nothing as false. Graham, I take your point. My point

1005
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Speaker 2: is that announcing things isn't doing and so what they did,

1006
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Speaker 2: and I'm all for the NCAA binning and the certificate

1007
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Speaker 2: coming in. I love it. Get into it can't happen

1008
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Speaker 2: soon enough. Point is not happening now and so next

1009
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Speaker 2: year's election year, and having made some announcements about things

1010
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: that will happen is useful, but it's not proof of

1011
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: it having happened. And that's the point. Got some very

1012
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 2: good news around some sport for you shortly meantime, twenty

1013
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Speaker 2: three minutes away from eight politics weekesday. Of course, I'll

1014
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Speaker 2: break make Mitchell, Ginny Anderson with us. Now, as I

1015
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Speaker 2: asked you yesterday, do we have brewing no pun intended

1016
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Speaker 2: issues in our famed wine sector. Tariff's obviously are trouble

1017
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 2: for the States specifically, but we also have a lot

1018
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Speaker 2: of produce being left unharvested on the bunes. Nearly one

1019
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: hundred thousand tons has been left this last season. Now, Charlotte,

1020
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: reader is the gym at brand at Winegroves, New Zealand,

1021
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: and well the Charlotte very good morning to you.

1022
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Speaker 7: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: One hundred thousand tons? Is that a lot? And is

1024
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: it a worry?

1025
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Speaker 20: Look over producing more than demand in our industry? This

1026
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 20: is just something that primary sectors often face. No, I

1027
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 20: think in the in the current climate where we have

1028
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 20: very strong demands for our premium wines. This, this, you know,

1029
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 20: is a is something that's happened in our in our industry,

1030
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Speaker 20: and that the strong reputation of New Zealand wine will

1031
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 20: continue to have our wine thought after around the world.

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Speaker 2: As a contractor or a purchaser of land or a grower,

1033
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: do I see the one hundred thousand times and go

1034
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to buy that block of land or

1035
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to expand? Is that sort of thing happening?

1036
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 2: Are we sort of maxed out on land and production

1037
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,280
Speaker 2: and growing grapes?

1038
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Speaker 20: I think undoubtedly for our sector at the moment, it

1039
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Speaker 20: is a It is a very challenging time for industry.

1040
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Speaker 20: There are there are many headwinds. We've got uncertain times,

1041
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 20: whether it's the global economy, our own economy here in

1042
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 20: New Zealand facing recession week wine markets, the tariffs of

1043
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 20: last week haven't haven't helped increased exercise there. There are

1044
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 20: there are many headwinds, but uncertainty is something that our

1045
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 20: industry has faced for many years. We have been very

1046
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 20: lucky in the New Zealand wine industry that we have

1047
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 20: really enjoyed twenty five years of continuous growth pretty much.

1048
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 20: And yes, this it is a concern at the moment

1049
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 20: for for our industry, but our growers there and wineries

1050
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 20: that they're really smart operators and they will make decisions

1051
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 20: within their own businesses to help their supply match international demand.

1052
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: How much of what's left on the vine is serving

1053
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: on blanc and how much of it's in Marlborough.

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00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 7: Yes, well, you.

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Speaker 20: Would have seen various reports in the recent week where

1056
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 20: figures were revealed about about the Marbile region. You've got

1057
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 20: to remember in our industry that ninety percent of our

1058
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 20: wine is exported and ninety percent of that comes from

1059
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Speaker 20: Marlboro and ninety percent of that is savignon blanc.

1060
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Speaker 15: So yes, it is.

1061
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Speaker 20: It is largely a savignon blanc issue that we are

1062
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 20: talking about here. But what we are so encouraged by

1063
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 20: is that New Zealand is making wine styles that the

1064
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 20: world wants and our brand health tracking research shows that

1065
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 20: more refreshing wine styles, lighter wine styles and white wines

1066
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 20: are being increasingly turned to and savignon blanc from New Zealand.

1067
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Speaker 20: It really has been such a s fest story a

1068
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Speaker 20: around the world, so we have no long term reason

1069
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Speaker 20: for concern.

1070
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Speaker 2: Sure the fall and demand globally around alcohol. The issue

1071
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: around alcohol is in your view, is that permanent.

1072
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Speaker 20: Well, I think we are definitely seeing the alcohol market

1073
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 20: and the wine market evolving, and we are working hard

1074
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 20: to keep connected with our consumers. That's what's led to

1075
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Speaker 20: our successes, being really closely connected to what international consumers

1076
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Speaker 20: love to drink around the world. And so as emerging

1077
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 20: emerging generations come through with their different habits, whether they

1078
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 20: be digitally led in how they like to learn about things,

1079
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 20: we've just got to keep ahead of the game on

1080
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Speaker 20: how we connect with our consumers and ensure that we

1081
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 20: are remaining relevant and we fight for occasion. We're trying

1082
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 20: to fit people's lifestyles and you're seeing some great innovation

1083
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 20: in our sector, whether it be lighter wines or packaging

1084
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 20: formats that have evolved to more convenience than the like.

1085
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: Okay, so generally you're bullish or not.

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Speaker 20: We undoubtedly as an industry are facing a challenging time

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Speaker 20: in our industry. But where I sit in brand, where

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00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 20: we push our international reputation with the support of our

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Speaker 20: seven hundred wineries around the world, we have such a

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Speaker 20: strong position in the world. You know, in the UK,

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00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 20: our oldest export market, one in every two bottles of

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00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 20: savignon blanc is from New Zealand and in the US

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Speaker 20: and premium price points, five out of the top ten

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Speaker 20: selling white wines are.

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Speaker 7: From New Zealand.

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Speaker 20: So we whilst it's the concerning time at home and

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Speaker 20: it's not easy for our growers, we do need to

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Speaker 20: take heart that there are very very strong reputational strengths

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Speaker 20: that we have. We're about to actually have an industry

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Speaker 20: wine business forum called Embracing Growth and Sustaining the Future,

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Speaker 20: and it's embracing change rather and embracing changes. What it's

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Speaker 20: all about having the ability to adapt to our changing

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Speaker 20: world and continue to make wines that the.

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Speaker 2: World wants good stuff. Shall appreciate your time. Nice to

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Speaker 2: talk to you, Charlotte Read, who's the general manager at

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Speaker 2: brand at Winegros, New Zealand. My favorite story of yesterday

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Speaker 2: for you in just a couple of moments seventeen to eight.

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Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. How

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Speaker 1: Advite News talks at me.

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Speaker 2: I was mentioning earlier on I come back to it.

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00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 2: These GLP drugs would go being Manjara and all that

1112
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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Anyway, they fund them through script and

1113
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 2: the NHS and they come up with the survey saying

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Speaker 2: that when people go off them, they put most of

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Speaker 2: the weight back on, which is hardly surprising. But any

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00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 2: having said that, my wife meets a radiologist yesterday who

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00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: I was taken by because she's and she'll be walking

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Speaker 2: right now. She walks every morning speaking of fitness, because

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00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 2: these GLP things are just the problem with GOLP drugs

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Speaker 2: is that they're an answer. They're a fantasy, seemingly a

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00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: fantastic answer to people who've got weight problems also diabetes,

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00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: of course, because it was made for diabetes in the

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Speaker 2: first place. Not wait, anyway, they're a fantastic answer, but

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00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: because the answer has been with us all along, which

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Speaker 2: is to exercise. And if you want to exercise and

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Speaker 2: eat well, then you're probably going to have some decent health.

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00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 2: I hate that answer exactly. And then that is the problem.

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Speaker 2: So Erin and we think her name's Erin, because of

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Speaker 2: course she comes home and she tells me, she goes, oh,

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Speaker 2: the wonderful woman. She's absolutely fantastic. So she walks fifty

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00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: minutes to work every day listening to this program, and

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Speaker 2: she walks fifty minutes home at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: listening to Heather, and she says she loves it because

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Speaker 2: she feels fully informed for the day. Plus she loves gardens,

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Speaker 2: and so she goes past different routes and looks at

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Speaker 2: all the favorite gardens in the neighborhood on the way

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00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 2: to work, and she also feels so she's informed, she's fit,

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Speaker 2: and she's seen a lot of gardens. And I thought

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Speaker 2: to myself, that is a fan, What a fantastic individual,

1140
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 2: What an uplifting story. And I said to Katie, I said,

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Speaker 2: what's her name? And of course Katie, because she's like

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Speaker 2: shallow as a puddle goes. I don't know. I think

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Speaker 2: could be Erin? Did she introduce Erin? So if it

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Speaker 2: is Eron, Aaron will know who I'm talking about. But

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Speaker 2: if it's not Aaron, you're going to yourself all my

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00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: name is Sharon. Then I apologized for my wife who

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Speaker 2: wasn't paying attention. But walking to work fifteen minutes a day,

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Speaker 2: walking home fifty minutes a day, it doesn't like walking

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Speaker 2: in the rain, but then who does? But she still does.

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Speaker 17: That did not go in the direction I thought I

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Speaker 17: was going to go, mostly because quite early in the

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Speaker 17: piece you mentioned that she was a radiologist.

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, radiologist, a few medical stories to tell maybe on

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Speaker 2: Friday actually.

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Speaker 17: And well no, but I just thought that from a

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Speaker 17: radiologist point of view, that she might have some insight

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Speaker 17: into the side effects of a zempak or walking.

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Speaker 2: No, no, we didn't talk about a zempa because that

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: was a separate thing and I wasn't there, So Katie,

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Speaker 2: I mean I would have peppered her with that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff, like what's your name? Yeah, I were first

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Speaker 2: things go. I would have said, now, oh, eron, lovely

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Speaker 2: to meet you. You sound like an interesting person. Let's

1164
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Speaker 2: do a little Q.

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Speaker 21: And A, as were gov rotting us from the inside exactly.

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Speaker 21: Katie's not like that, and what's your name? Best story

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Speaker 21: of the day yesterday Christa and Alex Clark also good

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Speaker 21: morning to you, because I suspect their listeners of this

1169
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Speaker 21: program because I looked at them on the news last

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Speaker 21: night and I thought there's a beedlessness all day long.

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Speaker 21: Their Middle New Zealand, they rang the hot line, the

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Speaker 21: tip line, not for the road canes, so probably wrung

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Speaker 21: them as well. But anyway, they had a garden shed

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Speaker 21: in the backyard and they'd moved it to the corner

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Speaker 21: of the yard and they'd gone this, they got permission

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Speaker 21: of the neighbors because of course it's illegal to do that.

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Speaker 21: And so if you didn't know the rule, you had

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Speaker 21: to be as far away from your boundary with your

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Speaker 21: garden shed as your garden shed is high. So if

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Speaker 21: your garden shed's two and a half meters high, you

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Speaker 21: had to be two and a half meters away from

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Speaker 21: your boundary.

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Speaker 2: You're asking why, very good question. So they rang the

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Speaker 2: tip line and they said, that's a stupid rule. How

1185
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 2: about we changed that stupid rule. David Seymour, who's on

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00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: the end of the phone, he does the answer machine

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Speaker 2: every day at the end of the day, he went,

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00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 2: that's a good idea, and he went and changed the rules.

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Speaker 2: He's going to change the rules and went and opened

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Speaker 2: up their shed. And that is what New Zealand should

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Speaker 2: all be about. Christa and alexis going out living their life,

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00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 2: being sensible, being logical, helping a government change dumb rules

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Speaker 2: and we're all better off for it. So congratulations to

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Speaker 2: them and good Morning Eron ten minutes away from eight, the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs, Dea'd be.

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Speaker 2: Giving away from Make Good News for New Zealand and

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Speaker 2: especially our sports cred Towering has been handled the hosting

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Speaker 2: rights for the twenty twenty eight WORLL Triathlon Champs three

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Speaker 2: year deal several events in twenty six and twenty seven

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Speaker 2: leading up. It's also expected to generate about twenty five

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Speaker 2: million in tourism spending. Pete Devitt is Triathlon New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: CEO and is with us Pete morning, hold on, there's

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Speaker 2: my mouse stand by. You're with us? Yeah, good demand

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Speaker 2: for it. I mean, did you have to compete with

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Speaker 2: the whole lot of countries or cities.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, we did.

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Speaker 11: But to be fair, we've been working on this for

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Speaker 11: about three years and tried to position this with World

1209
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 11: Trifling quite some time ago, primarily through hosting World Cup

1210
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 11: events over the last three years and really showing them

1211
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 11: that we've got what it takes to deliver this event

1212
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Speaker 11: for World Triathlon and for New Zealand. So yeah, really

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Speaker 11: excited that we're here today and we're able to tell

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Speaker 11: the world about this.

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00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 2: How many people would come from New Zealand as opposed

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Speaker 2: to from around the world.

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Speaker 11: So we'd expect to have probably about twelve to thirteen

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 11: hundred age groups racing in the age group race in

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Speaker 11: twenty twenty eight of a field of about four and

1220
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 11: a half thousand, so fairly large contingent of New Zealand

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00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 11: actually would race in the age group race. Yes, so

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Speaker 11: a big, big interest in the sport from an age

1223
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 11: group perspective, and obviously great for them to be able

1224
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Speaker 11: to actually compete at home instead of jumping on a

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00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 11: plane and having to travel around the world to compete

1226
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 11: in the World chams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it must have. Did it help? Do you know

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Speaker 2: for a fact that helps that we're actually quite good

1229
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 2: at this is a sport?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it does help, certainly does help. And I think

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Speaker 11: that's also a large drive for us. Was given that

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00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 11: Hayden will likely bow out of Olympic distance racing in

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00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 11: twenty twenty eight, it's a fitting end to his career

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00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 11: for him to finish it up in Tronto, which is

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Speaker 11: pretty close to his hometown.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And what about Tewrong when you're looking from an international

1238
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: point of view and handing out these sort of prizes,

1239
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: is Tawrong as a gateway or problem as opposed to say,

1240
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 2: in Auckland, which is easier for the world to get to.

1241
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, not really.

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00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 11: I think what we've looked at from a World triath

1243
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 11: on perspective, they kind of look at it as iconic

1244
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 11: cities or beautiful destinations. So I think from our perspective,

1245
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 11: Teiroanto fits the ball of beautiful destinations. And you know,

1246
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 11: we had the seventy point three World Champs, iron Man

1247
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 11: World Champs here in Topoin in December last year, over

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00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 11: six thousand athletes competing. So I don't think there's too

1249
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 11: much of a concern around getting athletes from main centers

1250
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 11: into regional New Zealand. We've proven we can do it

1251
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 11: before and we where we'd easily be able to do

1252
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 11: it again.

1253
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: Exciting times. Well done, congratulations on it. Peaked Avot Triathlon

1254
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: newsan CEO four minutes away from Ape Mike love you,

1255
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Speaker 2: Sham an acupuncturist. Have a clinic in gray Land. Happy

1256
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: to offer you and Katie a complimentary treatment if you're

1257
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: into needles. You're very kind. We don't take freebies. But

1258
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: Katie did it, and she's into holistic stuff these days,

1259
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: in health and medicine stuff, and she went for the needles.

1260
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,200
Speaker 2: And there's no question. I don't know whether it's even

1261
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: a thing anymore. Whether the people think acupuncture works, there's

1262
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:29,439
Speaker 2: no question it works. The needle thing was a major

1263
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Speaker 2: psychologically for her and she I don't think she can

1264
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Speaker 2: get a head around it. Last time I talked to her.

1265
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Speaker 2: Mike Rewhine, there are only two messages we need to

1266
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Speaker 2: get out to the world. One serving on blanc is

1267
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: the best variety to drink with. Seafood too, Marlborough makes

1268
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: the best saving on blanc in the world. Celebration Champagne

1269
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: seafood serving on Blanc. Tim Crawford. Tim Crawford's a legend,

1270
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 2: of course, the Crawford label. Tim and Erica love Erica.

1271
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: Do I love Erica more than Tim? It doesn't really matter.

1272
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: But the point is that Tim makes the wine, Erica

1273
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: does the marketing. Anyway, they're one of the great success

1274
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 2: stories of the New Zealand wine industry. News for you

1275
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Speaker 2: in a couple of moments, and we've got to politics Wednesday.

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01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: They're in recess against the Marc's overseas and Ginny isn't

1277
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: but she's out of town, but she will be with us,

1278
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: So we've got that as anyone running the country vibe

1279
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 2: about us this morning on Politics Wednesday, I might raise

1280
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 2: that with them and see how that goes for us. Anyway,

1281
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 2: that's after the News, which was next on the Mike

1282
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: Hosking Breakfast.

1283
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: Town Fliers and only twice the News and the newsmakers

1284
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate altogether better

1285
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: across residential, commercial and rural news talks.

1286
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 9: Head be.

1287
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 3: I'm from the back where down south going? Hey, Tom, Now,

1288
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: while I.

1289
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: Was interested in this, this is not my kind of music,

1290
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 2: but not that's nothing, skilled and clever and all that,

1291
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400
Speaker 2: because it is. But I was wanting to hear the

1292
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: voice and what sort of shape he's in this, Buddy guy.

1293
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: I ain't done with the blues.

1294
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: It seems to be, by the way, it's his twentieth

1295
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 2: studio album. And what I was interested in is the voice,

1296
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: which sounds very strong. He's eighty nine, which gives you

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Speaker 2: an indication that if you do what you love every

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Speaker 2: day and you're a performer, then the chances are you're

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Speaker 2: probably going to leave to a rifle of age, which

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Speaker 2: is it seems to be Joe Walsh's in this, and

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Speaker 2: Peter Frampton's in this, and the Blind Boys of Alabama

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Speaker 2: in it. We're Tuesday, and there is the good news

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Speaker 2: is there are eighteen glorious tracks for one hour. Not

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Speaker 2: often to say that these days, one hour, four minutes

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Speaker 2: and forty two seconds of big bad buddy guy.

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Speaker 1: And be hard.

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Speaker 2: Right in his eight min it's past as time for

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Speaker 2: politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell Wills along with Jindy Anderson, Good

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Speaker 2: morning to you too.

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Speaker 22: Hey, morning morning, Jimmy, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Now, first of all, I'm just trying to work out

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Speaker 2: what I start with you, Ginny okay, and no, I

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Speaker 2: know your answer. Don't give me the A'm not going

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Speaker 2: to make policy on this program. I get that, I

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Speaker 2: understand that, But in general, would you look to flip

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Speaker 2: the Erica Stanford announcement.

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Speaker 9: Of this week?

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Speaker 22: Well, I need to know more about it. So the

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Speaker 22: main issue I have currently is that it's a really

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Speaker 22: short consultation period for such a huge overhaul. And to

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Speaker 22: be honest, my personal view has told Caucus about this.

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Speaker 22: But what's this AI stuff? Are they going to mark

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Speaker 22: the papers? I don't get that, but my AI is

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Speaker 22: going to do something.

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Speaker 2: Well, what about the idea of a certificate versus NCA

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Speaker 2: four subjects? You've got a part five subjects got to

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Speaker 2: pass for abc D and E marking. I mean and

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Speaker 2: that in theory. Does that sit okay with you guys?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys going to create some sort of big

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Speaker 2: fuss that it becomes an election issue.

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Speaker 22: We knew there were issues within CEA and and taking

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Speaker 22: a good look at that. But what we don't want

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Speaker 22: to go back to is the old school system where

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Speaker 22: if you got under fifty percent, you're a failure and

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Speaker 22: that's that. So NCAA was trying to make it more

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Speaker 22: workable for kids to keep progressing and moving. So as

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Speaker 22: long as we're not returning to a situation where someone

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Speaker 22: gets under fifty percent by one Mark and their toast.

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Speaker 22: So that's not going to help anyone. But look, if

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Speaker 22: they're going to make genuine, constructive improvements that make good

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Speaker 22: vocational options for kids, of course we'd be always open

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Speaker 22: to discuss that. My real concern is that six weeks

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Speaker 22: consultation doesn't really give pearans or students the opportunity to

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Speaker 22: have a decent say, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, what it looks like Mark cash Patel. Did you

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Speaker 2: meet him?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you were in the room and I thought,

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Speaker 2: hang on, he's probably met Mark. Tak me through it,

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Speaker 2: would you go. Would you go for a beer with them?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? I would.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm very good, really focused on getting if your

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Speaker 23: agent's sort of back to basics, back out doing the

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Speaker 23: law enforcement role that they all joined to do, and

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Speaker 23: obviously really good having them down here and with the

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Speaker 23: permanent presence now to we talked a lot about the

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Speaker 23: myth situation.

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Speaker 9: Globally and how we can work together on that.

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Speaker 23: Obviously they've got a much bigger footprint and better intelligence

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Speaker 23: coming out of South America, which is where a lot

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Speaker 23: of this myth amphetamine has been generated from, and it's

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Speaker 23: having an awful impact on our Pacific countries. And of

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Speaker 23: course both New Zealand and Australia are working to deal

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Speaker 23: with us as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, And when Nicholas said she saw a lot of

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Speaker 2: good looking men in suits, were they.

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Speaker 9: Good looking as well? She's a far better judge, she's

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Speaker 9: a but yeah, of course he's got a security detail with.

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Speaker 2: Them, Okay, the foreshore and seabed Ginny, would you are

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Speaker 2: you comfortable broadly with what old you know, Justice Minister

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith is doing or not?

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Speaker 22: No, I don't think it's it's great.

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Speaker 2: But isn't he going back to tooth eleven and if

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Speaker 2: you didn't like twenty eleven, you could have done something

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 2: about it when you're in government, but you didn't.

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Speaker 22: Well, the situation is that it wasn't actually causing any

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Speaker 22: interference with public access. And I don't think what he's

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Speaker 22: done is strengthening the martive crown relationship at all. So

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Speaker 22: all of those who have been through the court process

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Speaker 22: are kind of left hanging now, well not all of those, Well,

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Speaker 22: those who have spent years going through a process is

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Speaker 22: more than those who have actually started the process as well,

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Speaker 22: who have initiated that process is more than seven year.

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Speaker 22: So I don't think it actually resolves anything clearly that

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Speaker 22: helps the martive crown relationship.

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Speaker 2: What was wrong with the line that if you if you,

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Speaker 2: if you can prove to a court or the government

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Speaker 2: or whatever, that you've had access since eighteen forty pretty

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Speaker 2: much uninterrupted, you get your title. If you don't, you don't.

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Speaker 2: What's wrong with that.

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Speaker 22: That there were very few that because of colonization, that

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Speaker 22: were able to establish that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and hence therefore you don't want one rule for

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Speaker 2: you know, based on rates, do you in other words,

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Speaker 2: of your left it and you didn't do it, You

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Speaker 2: can't suddenly you know, one hundred and fifty years later, go,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, we kind of like that place back then.

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Speaker 22: But there were many other instances where there had been

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Speaker 22: continual customer gathering. There have been other practices that were happening,

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Speaker 22: and so we still wanted their ability to test that

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Speaker 22: right in the courts. So taking that away didn't really

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Speaker 22: do anything for the Mighty Crown relationship.

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Speaker 14: Mark.

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Speaker 23: Sorry, make no, I was just going to say, Mike,

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Speaker 23: that fools just reinstating the law back to what the

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Speaker 23: intent was in twenty eleven and it was changed through

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Speaker 23: a court decision.

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Speaker 2: So how do you handle it? See Mark, and don't

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Speaker 2: tell me what goes on in cabinet obviously, But I

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Speaker 2: had Paul on earlier on today and I said, what

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Speaker 2: have you been doing? I mean, why are you listening

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Speaker 2: to courts? If you are the court of the land,

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Speaker 2: you are the highest court of the land, and if

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Speaker 2: you want to do something, do it. What are we

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Speaker 2: mucking around for years on end being and being told

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Speaker 2: what to do by courts?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Well, so I agree with you.

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Speaker 23: Is that is that you know, once the law has passed,

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Speaker 23: all legislation has passed by Parliament in the intent that

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Speaker 23: should be applied by the courts. But the problem is,

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Speaker 23: so the courts are making their own interpretations of the law,

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Speaker 23: and that's what we've had in this case.

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Speaker 9: Had to go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But the point I'm saying Judy though, the point

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Speaker 2: is you don't have to listen to it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're always going to get somebody to go to court

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Speaker 2: to test and that's fine. But if you're going to

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Speaker 2: get activist courts, what's the point of parliament.

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Speaker 22: Well you can flip it the other way too and

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Speaker 22: say Parliament's going to override everything the courts.

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Speaker 2: What's well, not everything, but the stuff that you as

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Speaker 2: the duly elected power i e. The government's right. You

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Speaker 2: know you've got that, you be able to have some control.

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Speaker 22: This goes right into what is I mean you're getting

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Speaker 22: into law as one or what is a separation of power?

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Speaker 22: I mean the two. In twenty eleven you had National

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Speaker 22: saying that Malory had their right to test test the

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Speaker 22: rights in court and they seem to have taken a

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Speaker 22: different position once in the government on.

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Speaker 23: All right, Well, it's it's not a separation of power

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Speaker 23: issue at all. Is quite simply the will of the people.

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Speaker 23: The will of the people.

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Speaker 22: About the legal doctrine the separation of power, which is

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Speaker 22: executive judiciary.

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Speaker 2: I think viewing more along my lines, and old Paul

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Speaker 2: Goldsmith was struggling with it. He seemed he seems to

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Speaker 2: be sort of like the court and he likes to

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Speaker 2: listen to what the court are saying and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But listen, I've got to take a break,

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Speaker 2: brief break more in a moment. Fourteen past the Mike.

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Speaker 1: Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio powered by

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Speaker 1: News Talks It be.

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Speaker 2: Used Talks Me seventeen past day, Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: with us Mark the Sylvia Wood at theyr Cup. Were

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Speaker 2: you at the conference over the weekend? Yes, it was

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Speaker 2: good buzz, Yeah it was.

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Speaker 9: That was great, really good conference.

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Speaker 2: When Sylvia comes out party president and goes the country

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Speaker 2: doesn't see the Prime minister's humanity, Does she realize you

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Speaker 2: probably shouldn't say those things out loud because that's part

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Speaker 2: of the problem.

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Speaker 22: Well, I thought it was a campaign on I thought

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Speaker 22: it was going to be Erica by the end of

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Speaker 22: the weekend.

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Speaker 23: Well, we're we're very lucky to have Sylvie Wood as

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Speaker 23: our president. And look, she's probably talking and engineering terms he's,

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Speaker 23: you know, the Prime Minister. In my view, I consider

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Speaker 23: him a personal friend and I've got huge admiration for

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Speaker 23: him as a guy. That he didn't really get a honeymoon.

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Speaker 23: He's under constant attack, you know. And but the fact

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Speaker 23: of the matter is that he is. He is working

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Speaker 23: bloody hard for our country. He knows what to do

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Speaker 23: and in there our times, which is extremely difficult at

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Speaker 23: the moment with global headwinds we have, there is no

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Speaker 23: one better, in my view, that should be running the country.

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Speaker 2: I wouldpect you to say that, and not only that, Mark,

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Speaker 2: but I also believe.

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Speaker 9: But I believe.

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Speaker 2: I mean that from heart. I know you believed.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say it if I didn't feel.

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Speaker 2: When and this is the problem with Sylvia saying what

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Speaker 2: she did. When does it translate to a point where

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Speaker 2: people go, yep, Mark was right and he is a

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Speaker 2: decent blow and I get it.

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 23: I just think that if they actually look at him,

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Speaker 23: if they if they look and see what he's doing

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Speaker 23: and what he's achieving for us as a country, and

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Speaker 23: if they and if they actually look at the difficulties

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Speaker 23: around the world at the moment, the headwinds, I mean,

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Speaker 23: we are although people aren't feeling it, and we fully

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Speaker 23: acknowledge that we are pulling ourselves out of the economic

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Speaker 23: mess that these guys that the previous government put us in.

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Speaker 23: The previous guy got no plan other than to text

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Speaker 23: people more. He's actually doing. He's actually doing a really

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Speaker 23: good kind.

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Speaker 22: Of waited in there as well. I thought I read

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Speaker 22: something that was both a good Fellow and Sylvia both

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Speaker 22: saying stuff that he's not that popular.

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Speaker 9: That's that's complete rubbish. Neither of them are said there.

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Speaker 22: He is going.

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Speaker 1: Let me just know.

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Speaker 22: It was more. It was just making the point there

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Speaker 22: that is, popularity isn't strong and trying to be.

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Speaker 2: When when you've got to tell people Mark My point

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Speaker 2: is this, when you've got to tell people something that

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Speaker 2: should be obvious, you've got a problem. Is the issue.

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Speaker 2: It's like saying, look, Hosking really is a nice guy. Now,

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Speaker 2: no one believes that a lot of people that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 23: Sorry, all I was going to say is, look, I've

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Speaker 23: been lucky in my lifetime to have worked some really

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Speaker 23: good leaders and as anity like you said, Jenny, let

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01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 23: me finish please, I've been really lucky to whip some

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01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 23: great leaders. I'm telling you now, Chris pha Luxon as

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 23: a minister is without a doubt a great leader, and

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01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 23: he empers he powers his ministers up. But I will

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01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 23: say this, he expects you to deliver results for the country.

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01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 23: We're here delivered results of the country, and if we don't,

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Speaker 23: then there's some serious conversations exactly.

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 22: And that's what's happening right now, some serious conversations.

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: Yes, and that's what let me have this on this

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01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 2: for you, Jenny. And it's not a personal thing. I'm

1524
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: just interested in Megan Woods giving up her listen seat.

1525
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: Does that work from home vibes? Is that like can't

1526
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,600
Speaker 2: be bothered? Is that just lazy politics? Why would you

1527
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: want to just sit there being on the list if

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01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: you can be in an electric well, I.

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Speaker 22: Think a situation, if we're in a situation where we're

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Speaker 22: forming government, someone like Meghan, who's her great experience, will

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01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 22: be critical. You don't know that we're on top of everything. No,

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Speaker 22: we don't know that. But she's put herself in a

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,639
Speaker 22: position where she doesn't want to commit to our whole

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 22: six years of being an electorate seats. She's thinking, you know,

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01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 22: obviously she's got some other plans, but she's committed.

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Speaker 9: To the.

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 22: Well. She wants to give to someone else the opportunity

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01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 22: to take to take Wigram and I think good honor

1539
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 22: she's being able to do that. It's not been an

1540
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 22: easy decision, but I think enabling someone else to come

1541
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 22: up through the party to give a clear message, I

1542
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,839
Speaker 22: think that's important.

1543
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: You and you're in Asia Mark with your Are you

1544
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 2: out pounding through the jungles.

1545
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 22: Spear fishing on your private island.

1546
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 9: Of Bali doing some spear fishing yet? So back on Sunday.

1547
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: And what are you doing, Ginny? Have you come to

1548
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,799
Speaker 2: Auckland to visit the CBD.

1549
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 22: I am visiting construction companies. I've visited three different constructions.

1550
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Were they doing anything.

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01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 7: Well?

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01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 22: Simplicity by the out by the racecourse, they're doing amazing work,

1553
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 22: the same stuffs and simplicity out their eddings.

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 9: They are doing amazing work because works don't come.

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 22: On you talking about set up by Michael Cullens. They're responsible,

1556
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 22: that's true, you are, That's what simplicity is.

1557
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 18: Outcomes.

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01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 22: Good, But eighteen thousand leaving the country is a we've

1560
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 22: lost significantly all right.

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Speaker 2: You two, you too, you two have a good use

1562
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: for a good time and we'll sit you next Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It's a twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News TOGSAV.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for the smartest way to boost your homes

1566
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Speaker 2: value in the static market, I've got some news for you.

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Speaker 2: Smartest way to do it You do it kitchens. So

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Speaker 2: for almost fifty years, very proud Keywi company has been

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Speaker 2: helping homeowners create superior quality kitchens incredibly affordable prices. So

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Speaker 2: what makes them so affordable, Well, basically you do the design.

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Speaker 2: So they've got to use your tools, let your customized

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Speaker 2: cabinet science. There's no extra you can choose from over

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Speaker 2: thirty five colors. Then once you have locked into that design,

1574
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Speaker 2: that you do it team. They precision manufacture your kitchen

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Speaker 2: right here in the country and we love that in

1576
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Speaker 2: only seven days. For goodness sake, everything is dispatched to

1577
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Speaker 2: your door. You don't need to be a DIY pro

1578
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Speaker 2: because assembly is easy. The local DIY experts there are

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Speaker 2: only an email away to help you every step of

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Speaker 2: the way. So when the housing markets but flat, strategic

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Speaker 2: improvements are your best investments to get that kitchen you

1582
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Speaker 2: want add real value to your house, say thousands in

1583
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Speaker 2: the process search you do it, you d.

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Speaker 1: You do it?

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Speaker 2: Their customers probably say, of course I did it myself.

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Speaker 2: Thank god of this, Genny. What's wrong with having a

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Speaker 2: goal ie have to get fifty percent to pass? Not

1588
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 2: everyone will pass, and that actually doesn't mean they're toast.

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Speaker 2: And it's true, I think, getting back to this, you've

1590
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 2: got to fail in life to understand the value of success,

1591
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 2: don't you. If you've never failed, you've never understood success

1592
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: and you've never understood life. We shouldn't actually care of

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01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: lux and Mike is popular. He is leading a team

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01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 2: expecting excellence from ministers. We had a popular leader who

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01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: led us to the brink of disaster then scurried out

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01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: the back door. Tony, very very good point. But it's

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01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: not how politics works. I wish it did, but it doesn't,

1598
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: and you've got to deal it. By the way, yesterday

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Speaker 2: the Mighty D's the Melbourne Demons, the AFL I followed it.

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Speaker 2: Of the AFL. I love the Mighty D's anyway, they

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,560
Speaker 2: sacked their coach, so the SCAN I don't know the

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01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 2: suit place is remotely interested in that, but I was

1603
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Speaker 2: moderately and he's in Melbourne and so I might ask

1604
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Speaker 2: him about that in other matches in Australia, but moments away.

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Speaker 2: Next on News DOGSB.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day, the

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Speaker 1: my Casting Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way,

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Speaker 2: B Mike, the popularity of Luxe and concerns me and

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01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: the rising costs. So I fear the coalition will be

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01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,400
Speaker 2: voted out on this basis and we'll be right back

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 2: in the you know what again, I'll call the election

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01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: right now. They will get a second term.

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Speaker 7: Of that.

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01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely convinced. Short of the usual caveats, like you know,

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01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 2: if somebody turns out to be you know, advent and

1617
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: the scandal and the one party collapses or they all

1618
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: start and play against what, beating each other up. I

1619
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:04,000
Speaker 2: can't can't reveal it at this particular point in time,

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01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: but all things being equal, the economy will be not great,

1621
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: but it'll be It'll be enough. History tells us governments

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01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 2: get two terms. These three parties broadly speaking, got on

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01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 2: recentably well together. And the key to this is this,

1624
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: as long as Hipkins, Woods, et cetera, Sepaloni are still there,

1625
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 2: the distance between what they did to this country and

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 2: the fact they'll do it again is still not large

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01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,800
Speaker 2: enough for enough people to have forgotten. And on that

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01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 2: basis alone, the government will be re elected. Remember where

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Speaker 2: you heard it first, twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 16: Line International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, peace of

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Speaker 16: mind for New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: Business right Australia through Price Morning to you Caday, Good

1633
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Speaker 2: morning now. It was Mitsubishi. Wasn't its Mitsubishi going to build.

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Speaker 14: Them Mitsubishi Heavy Industry in Japan. And this is the

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Speaker 14: first real defense sale that Japan has made since World

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Speaker 14: War Two. As we all know, after the World War,

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Speaker 14: After World War two, Finish, Japan basically was not allowed

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01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 14: to have a military and America around the joint but

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01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,679
Speaker 14: they have quite a military build up over the last

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Speaker 14: few years. And Australia is going to buy ten of

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Speaker 14: the ten billion dollars worth of eleven frigates. There was

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01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 14: a battle going on between Japan and Germany as to

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Speaker 14: who would provide us with these things. Japan has won

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01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 14: that contract. They will build the first three of them

1645
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Speaker 14: in Japan, which is good news because when Australia tries

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01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 14: to build things like ships, it takes forever it costs

1647
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 14: a lot of money and never runs on time. You

1648
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 14: con bet the Japanese, as we know, they will do it.

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01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 14: They will build them and we'll get them, so that's

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01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 14: a good part of the deal. The rest of them

1651
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 14: are supposed to be built at a joint called the

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Speaker 14: Henderson Shipyard in Wa but that's not even yet ready

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Speaker 14: to start building them, and it may not be ready

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01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 14: in time. So we'll get three. They've got thirty six

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01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 14: what they call vertical tubes on board these frigates, which

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 14: means I can find missiles and so Australia belatedly is

1657
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 14: trying to get it. So it'sack together to try and

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01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 14: get enough military hardware to use if we have a

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Speaker 14: problem in the region.

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Speaker 2: I noted that Mitsubishi Eavy Industry has popped a bit

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01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 2: on the shipmaker yesterday, so it was a big deal

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Speaker 2: for them as well. This big business and just cinder

1663
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: Ellen and the working from home idea. See here's the

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01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 2: interesting thing. I suppose if you're just inter Ellen, the

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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 2: top end of town as you call it in Australia,

1666
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,759
Speaker 2: do you sweat that or do you know you've probably

1667
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 2: got the people on your side. Given everyone loves a

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01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 2: little bit of Wednesday and Thursday at home.

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Speaker 14: Probably the latter given what it did during the federal

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01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 14: election campaign. You might remember Petter Dupp and said he

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Speaker 14: was going to cancel work from home, and then they

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01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 14: later turned that into an election weapon. Just Cinder Allen

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01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 14: wants to legislate it now. As I mentioned to you

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01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 14: earlier in the week, I mean, the problem is to

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Speaker 14: federal legislation overright state. But she's going ahead anyway. Today

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 14: to businessman Tim Gerner, who's a major property developer in Velvet,

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Speaker 14: and Graham Turner who runs flight Center, the well known

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 14: travel company, they have said, you've got to stop meddling

1679
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:07,720
Speaker 14: in business. You've got to stop telling a soup and

1680
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 14: work where and when you've got You've got no right

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 14: to do that. One of the other interesting things that

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01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 14: came up when this discussion started to be had, there's

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Speaker 14: a little community on the River Murray which borders New

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 14: South Wales and Victoria. It's called Albury Wodonga, quite a

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01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 14: big center. Wadonga's on the Victorian side, Aubrey's on the

1686
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Speaker 14: New South Wales side. So this ever happened, every business

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01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 14: in Madonga is going to go north over the river

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01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 14: and say, well, I'm not having two people people working

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01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:36,519
Speaker 14: from home two days a week.

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Speaker 7: See you later.

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01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,760
Speaker 2: What's the suburb going to be called this new one.

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Speaker 14: It's called Beveridge Northwest.

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: Would you like to look who came.

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01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 9: Up with that?

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01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 14: Well, some council officially Beveridge Northwest. Now just picture this.

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 14: You're going to be forty kilometers north of Melbourne, which

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01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 14: in the summer. This is alongside the Hume Highway, which

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01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 14: is the main road that goes from Melbourne Sydney currently Farmland.

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01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 14: You're going to be there in summer when it's probably

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01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 14: about forty two degrees. There's going to be forty seven

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01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 14: thousand other people with you, living in fifteen thousand homes

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01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 14: built cheek to jowl.

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01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 9: And guess what.

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01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 14: They've also going to open a new quarry there to

1705
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 14: get the materials to build the houses.

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 7: It's going a bit disaster.

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 14: It's going to have eight schools and forest town centers. Look,

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01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 14: we need more housing. Yes, I don't think spreading out

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01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 14: in Farmland forty kilometers from the city without even a

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01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 14: sensible popper train line is the way.

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01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 2: To go unreal. This grub Gareth Ward is fascinating. So

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01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: the last I heard yesterday was the Government's going to

1713
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: have to go to court on this. Here they are.

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01:20:54,600 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 14: Because there is the Parliament itself. Caite bizarrely can't back anybody.

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01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 14: I mean, because of our party system. You're either in

1716
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 14: the party or you're not. He's not. He's an independent.

1717
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 14: The only way you can get him out is by

1718
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 14: court order. This blog has been charged with serious offenses,

1719
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 14: including the rape. He's not yet been sentenced. He's today

1720
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 14: while you and I talking, he's laying in his prison

1721
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 14: Colt inside silver Water Jail. And what he wants is

1722
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 14: to retain his position as an independent member of the

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Speaker 14: new South Wales Parliament, which means he still gets paid.

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Speaker 14: Of course, without that job he gets no money. It

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Speaker 14: seems bizarre that the parliament can't boot someone out facing

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Speaker 14: those we're not facing serious charges. He's been found guilty and.

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Speaker 2: In this country it's two years jail or more that

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Speaker 2: it's automatic.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, and so I just don't quite get why

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Speaker 14: he can't be thrown out. The Premier of Chris Min's

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Speaker 14: very frustrated by it. You would think everyone in Parliament

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Speaker 14: would put their hand up when asked the question should

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Speaker 14: we get rid of this book?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Hey, two Melbourne related questions. I don't even

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Speaker 2: know if you know the answer to either. I follow

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Speaker 2: the d's, the mighty d's. Yesterday they sacked the coach.

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01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: Why what's it just because they're a bit useless this year?

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Speaker 14: Well not just this year. They won the COVID flag

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01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 14: in twenty twenty one in Wa.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they have not been much.

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Speaker 14: Good since the culture at the place seems on the rocks.

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01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 14: And why anyone without a strong allegiance to Melbourne would

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01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 14: barrack for them like you are is completely beyond me.

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01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 14: But nevertheless, yeap, next.

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Speaker 2: Question because my dad anyway, More importantly, did you ever

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01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: go to eighteen hundred Lasagna? Do you know what eighteen

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Speaker 2: hundred lasagna is?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 14: I know Jamie Oliver went there once, but I haven't.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, anyway, his business has gone into receivership. And he

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01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 2: was the hottest thing. So what's happened? He was a

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01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: COVID thing and everyone started eating lasagna in Melbourne. Now

1754
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,760
Speaker 2: he's gone into receivership. He got a hat Zoship's house.

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Speaker 14: Hospitality in this country is in a huge trouble because

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Speaker 14: you can't afford to pay people the wages that they

1757
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 14: demand Over time, people are not going out as much

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01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 14: all of the above. I don't think it was the

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01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 14: Lazanna any good.

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Speaker 2: Well, the people seem to like it for a while

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Speaker 2: there in Thornberry. Is that a nice suburb? Is that

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01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: like Northwest Beverage or wherever the hell.

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01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 14: It was in a North Greenies riding bikes.

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Speaker 2: In all that stuff. See you next week, mate, So

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Speaker 2: Melbourne's iconic lauzanigna destination? Can you say that? Eighteen hundred

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01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 2: entered the administration? So Joey Kellock. He began with a

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Speaker 2: home delivery service during COVID, everyone went, oh Lasagnia and COVID,

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01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,439
Speaker 2: isn't it just absolutely lovely? Then he opened up a restaurant.

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01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 2: More importantly, he got a hat, so instead of Michelin,

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Speaker 2: stars in Australia get a hat, and he had a

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: chef's hat just a couple of years ago. With the

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Speaker 2: comment from the people at the Good Food Guide, there

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01:23:55,960 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 2: is simply nothing about it not to love. But clearly

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Speaker 2: they've worked out there is and here's an administration eight

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Speaker 2: forty five The.

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Speaker 1: Like Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

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Speaker 2: B twelve away from nine dodgy survey of the day.

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Speaker 2: This is the pharmacy So the pharmaceuticals lobby group Medicines

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Speaker 2: New Zealand have done the survey. They represent and lobby

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Speaker 2: on behalf of their members names like Pirezer, murk, MSD

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: roach as presentic you know the names. Anyway, they got

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01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 2: a market research company called Perceptive online survey nine hundred

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01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,559
Speaker 2: and ninety two of us between May and June. Results

1785
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 2: will waited apparently to give representative samples of the population.

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Speaker 2: So forty three percent. So the government should be funding

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01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: medicines much more, quote unquote much more thirty one percent,

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: a little bit more than the rest at about the

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01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: same or less. Half of those surveyed believe New Zealand's

1790
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,799
Speaker 2: access to modern medicines is worse than in other developed countries.

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01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 2: I'll come back to that. Asked how much of an

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01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: increase in funding would infl So it's your vote. So

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01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do is twist some arms here.

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01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,200
Speaker 2: They're trying to put the pressure on the government, which

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01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 2: is what lobbyists do. Of course. I asked how much

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01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: an increase in funding would influence your vote? Eleven percent

1797
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,560
Speaker 2: said extremely, What does that mean? What is extremely for

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01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: goodness sake, twenty five percent, very much, thirty five percent, moderately,

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01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,720
Speaker 2: eighteen percent, slightly, ten percent not at all. So what

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01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: they're trying to do is say, how about you know

1801
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 2: you spend more money on more pills and potions. It's

1802
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 2: like asking for a sunny day. It's like asking for

1803
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 2: a pay rise. It's like asking to be better looking.

1804
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: You know, would you like to be better looking?

1805
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 3: You know?

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01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:33,599
Speaker 2: Eighty seven percent of people said yes. So the business

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01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 2: of half those surveyed believe New Zealand's access to modern

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01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 2: medicines is worse than other developed countries. Well, so what

1809
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 2: do you know that? No, you don't. You're guessing you

1810
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't have a clue if the next question would be, oh,

1811
01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: do you think we're worse off than other countries? Name four?

1812
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Speaker 2: And you can't, So what a waste of time. So

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: presumably your MSD, eroches, your asprasenticas and stuff, pay money

1814
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 2: to the Medicines Lobby group or whoever the hell they

1815
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:59,679
Speaker 2: are to go, give more money to the research company

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01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:04,479
Speaker 2: to come up with this. That's lobbying. Basically, that's just

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Speaker 2: a good overt look at lobbying and obviously another example

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01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 2: of why really you've got to be very very careful

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Speaker 2: around poles. Ten Away from nine.

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Speaker 2: homes for sale and now features properties from New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: of uncovering the motivated buyers, those who are genuinely, you know,

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Speaker 2: looking for a waterfront proper and they're in a position

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Speaker 2: They're forming a task force, it has been announced from

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Speaker 2: the White House today they're forming a task force for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty eight Summer Olympics in Los Angeles. As

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Speaker 2: they so eloquently, Miss Levitt so eloquently said, sport is

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Speaker 2: one of Presidents Trump's greatest passions, and his athletic expertise,

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Speaker 2: combined with his unmatched hospitality experience, will make these Olympic

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Speaker 2: events the most exciting and memorable in history. It's hard

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Speaker 2: to believe she can say it with a straight face,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. She's good five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist ware House savings every day.

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Speaker 2: New movie, probably one of the worst ever New World

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01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 2: New War of the worlds. This one stars ice Cube.

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01:28:26,160 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 2: Now it's a screen movie, and you go, what's a

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Speaker 2: screen movie? Well, it's where everything that's happened happens to

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 2: ice Cube. He's looking at a screen and he's trying

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Speaker 2: to solve issues from his office by looking at the screen. Now,

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Speaker 2: Rotten Tomatoes, what are they saying? Well, well, zero zero

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Speaker 2: score on Rotten Tomatoes. Here are some of the reviews

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Speaker 2: I love in this movie.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be a government computer expert, but.

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Speaker 9: He looks like somebody's grandfather. Will cut the computer on

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Speaker 9: for the first time. Hey boy, I operate this stuf.

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Speaker 15: The worst film I've seen this year, the worst incarnation

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Speaker 15: of war the world and the screen look terrible effects.

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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't believe that this got made.

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Speaker 7: I would rather soft my own penis and eat it

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01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 7: rather than rewatching this movie again.

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Speaker 20: I tried as hard as humanly possible to finish this movie.

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Speaker 1: And I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 10: It's that dem bad.

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Speaker 2: What is good? As I got to episode two of

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Speaker 2: Built in Birmingham, Brady and his mate Waggs who bought

1879
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 2: the football team, it's gripping. It is absolutely gripping. And

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Speaker 2: so it's not about football. Forget about football. It's about life.

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01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,240
Speaker 2: It's about aspiration, dreams, being brilliant, clever, all that sort

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01:29:40,280 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 2: of stuff. They played Rixham and so that was interesting

1883
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. Mcalanny was there and they sang that.

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01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 2: The crowd saying stick you're dead, pull up your ass,

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01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 2: up your grass, stick you dead, pull up your grass up.

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Speaker 2: The crowd was singing this. Mcalinny was in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: It was the funniest thing. And they won three one,

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01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 2: Boomingham one three one. But the rebuilding of a team

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01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 2: and how they're going about it is a fascinating insight

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Speaker 2: into the broad based story of success. And you can

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Speaker 2: see why Brady is the way he is. His mate's

1892
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 2: more engaging. Wiggs is more engaging. He's the billionaire. But

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Speaker 2: Brady is just a force of nature. And so if

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Speaker 2: you haven't got onto that, you've got amazon time. And

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01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 2: then there's probably something that bit better than ice. Acute

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01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 2: place's moving you can get into if you got got

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Speaker 2: some spare time. Back tomorrow morning from six Happy Days.

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