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Speaker 1: The question for you is Shane Jones showing the treaty

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Speaker 1: Minister Paul Goldsmith how to run his own portfolio. So Goldsmith,

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Speaker 1: in response to Jones and his members bill on the

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Speaker 1: never ending Napooy drama, says the protest process can't go

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Speaker 1: on forever, which is the same basically as saying nothing,

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Speaker 1: because clearly it is and Goldsmith clearly has no plan.

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Speaker 1: The Jones bill that we talked about on the program

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Speaker 1: this time yesterday clever because my sense of it is

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Speaker 1: there is so much in fighting in the north of

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Speaker 1: the country. They'll be out. They're just out of sheer,

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Speaker 1: bloody mindedness. They'll never strike a deal. All the logic

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Speaker 1: that we heard yesterday about tribes that have cut deals

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Speaker 1: and invested billions and seeing the endless benefits will have

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Speaker 1: missed their mark. In Northland given a lot of napoo,

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Speaker 1: we aren't interested in a deal. They thrive on descent

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Speaker 1: and division and permanent anger and grievance. Jim Bolger, who

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Speaker 1: I know in the past few weeks as he celebrated

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Speaker 1: his ninetieth is still prone to the odd piece of

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Speaker 1: public commentary, might like to have pondered his own role

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Speaker 1: in this many many, many years ago when they started

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Speaker 1: to put a few road markers around time frames. Now,

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Speaker 1: the idea, if you went around at the time, you

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Speaker 1: can't remember. The idea was they would set a date

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Speaker 1: to file your claim, remembering even in Boldses's day, the

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Speaker 1: wait Tangi Tribunal had been going since the seventies for

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Speaker 1: goodness sake, and once you filed that claim, they would

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Speaker 1: impose another deadline to get it all wrapped up. Good idea,

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Speaker 1: but it went nowhere because Bolgier and co. Got sucked

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Speaker 1: into the idea. This was unfair, It was rushed, It

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Speaker 1: was history. What wasn't set out loud, of course, is

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Speaker 1: this was a gravy train that could go on literally forever,

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Speaker 1: and people were going to make a living out of it.

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Speaker 1: As Jones revealed yesterday, twenty million dollars for thy Napoui alone,

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Speaker 1: just for lunch in chats and airfares. Do remember nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy five, the start of the Waitangi Tribunal was a

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Speaker 1: good will gesture. The tribunal the settlement of grievances, was

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Speaker 1: entered into not because anyone had to, but because it

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Speaker 1: was the right thing to do. It was driven by goodwill.

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Speaker 1: I would have thought it was fairly obvious, and the

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Speaker 1: vast array of deals to be done and the apologies

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Speaker 1: to be made like life. Some would embrace it and

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Speaker 1: run with it. Some would be unable to get out

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Speaker 1: of their own way. What was needed, but was missing

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Speaker 1: still is Jones Aside, was leadership, the setting of the boundaries,

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Speaker 1: the explanation of the rules and expectations. And because that

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Speaker 1: was missing, so was twenty million on lunch and still

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Speaker 1: no deal. For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen

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