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Speaker 2: You said and welcome, We good. Every one name is
Speaker 2: Marcus Httil twelve. I hope you are good. If you're
Speaker 2: not good, I hope you get better by the time
Speaker 2: midnight rolls around. Your couple of topics tonight. What I
Speaker 2: want to start off with tonight too. Firstly, first and
Speaker 2: foremost is the death of Brian Wilson. And look what
Speaker 2: I want to say about that is this, Yeah, day
Speaker 2: to eighty two. Now, I enjoy some music, types of music.
Speaker 2: I'm passion about types of music. But I'm not a musician,
Speaker 2: and I'm a long way away from being a musician.
Speaker 2: I never ever claim to be one. But however, any
Speaker 2: friends of mine that are musicians, almost all of them
Speaker 2: will rave about one album. And that album is pet
Speaker 2: Sounds by the Beach Boys, and it's everyone's ultimate studio album.
Speaker 2: And I've never really totally understood why. But that's not
Speaker 2: the point. The point is that those that know know
Speaker 2: that that is the one that's an extraordinary album. And
Speaker 2: I've spent some time day listening to that just because
Speaker 2: I haven't really given it a good threshing ever really,
Speaker 2: but just out of respect and just wanted to know more.
Speaker 2: I spent some time listening to it. Well, of course
Speaker 2: I love the sloop John B. And you gotta love that.
Speaker 2: We must have sung that in school because it's a
Speaker 2: song that you alderready kick in with. That's a ripper
Speaker 2: some of the other songs. I mean, yeah, it's quite
Speaker 2: an extraordinary album. It's an how that's going to take.
Speaker 2: I'm going to spend a bit more time with I think,
Speaker 2: to really appreciate it. But I wouldn't mind some reminiscence
Speaker 2: about the Beach Boys tonight if there is something well
Speaker 2: Brian Wilson or the Beach Boys in particular, if there
Speaker 2: is something you want to say about that, just to
Speaker 2: kick it all off. I don't know when how often
Speaker 2: they toured New Zealand. I think Brian Wilson came a
Speaker 2: number of times solo and performed. Of course, he was
Speaker 2: someone that had his struggles and I don't know that
Speaker 2: performance was always comfortable for him, but he was probably
Speaker 2: someone that you've seen performing. I know he was at
Speaker 2: the Town Hall an Auckland number of years back, him
Speaker 2: on the piano, But that might be something you want
Speaker 2: to mention mcnowledge, you might be a musician yourself, because
Speaker 2: seemed very much about like the Carpenters, that Brian will
Speaker 2: very much a musician's musician, that if you're a musician,
Speaker 2: there were things that he would do that you really appreciated.
Speaker 2: Now there might be something you want to say about that,
Speaker 2: and I'm all there for that discussion tonight. So the
Speaker 2: number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine
Speaker 2: to nine to text, deaded eighty two. Didn't know he
Speaker 2: was unwell, and I think there was situations that his estate,
Speaker 2: you know, I think he oh yeah, Look, I didn't
Speaker 2: do the full deep dive into what was going on
Speaker 2: for him or his last years. I was more interested
Speaker 2: in going back to listen to the music. Don't know
Speaker 2: when Pet Sounds came out. I think it was aout
Speaker 2: the fourth or the fifth of the albums. But anyway,
Speaker 2: you've got something to say about Brian Wilson, and I
Speaker 2: don't think they'd be a nice way to talk about
Speaker 2: we haven't kind of honored a musician for a while.
Speaker 2: Although I tell you something about Pet Sounds. You put
Speaker 2: Pet Sounds on and the first song is a fairly
Speaker 2: good song, right, but it was destroyed by a Cadbury
Speaker 2: chocolate ad. Wouldn't it be nice? Great song? As soon
Speaker 2: as you go into it, all you can hear is
Speaker 2: the commercial, which is probably if per chance I was
Speaker 2: a great musician, I'd be very weary of lending any
Speaker 2: of my songs to anything because you're completely ruined that
Speaker 2: one only thirty nine minutes all up, pet sounds very short. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess it's short, but songs for shortened those days
Speaker 2: two twenty four in and out done. You got thirteen
Speaker 2: songs and you're out in thirty nine minutes, So way
Speaker 2: it should be in it. I think a couple of
Speaker 2: them are instrumentals as well. Slip John Beeges two fifty
Speaker 2: eight around Nassau Town. We did Rome just staying all night,
Speaker 2: get in touch on too. But now that's what we'll
Speaker 2: start off with. Eight and eighty eight. And there is
Speaker 2: a back topic. And I don't think we're in trouble
Speaker 2: with subdued to say or anything, but this mushroom trial, right,
Speaker 2: what's going on there? Have the police ruined this case
Speaker 2: because they seem to have a clear case of someone
Speaker 2: poisoning people with mushrooms? They seem to have rid elevenance.
Speaker 2: Haven't got a damn cell phone. She switched that round
Speaker 2: and got a new sim cat or something. If you've swallowed,
Speaker 2: if swallowed, if you followed that case, you might be
Speaker 2: a study of the law. What's your take on it?
Speaker 2: It seems to me it's quite close. She got away
Speaker 2: to the perfect murder, a perfect murder. I don't think
Speaker 2: she will get away because you know how Australian justice works.
Speaker 2: There's a woman that appears unusual, they'll normally convict her,
Speaker 2: a bit like Lindy Chamblain got done with the dingo. Anyway,
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred and eighty thirty nine nine to the text,
Speaker 2: looking forward to what you've got to say, Judith, it's
Speaker 2: Marcus welcome, Oh.
Speaker 3: Marcus, your son in a lot better than last week.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you, Judith.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, now with Beach Boys. And I brought a
Speaker 3: Beach Boys Elhuan down the op shop the other day
Speaker 3: for about two dollars.
Speaker 2: What one was it?
Speaker 3: Beach Boys famous hats yep copy. Anyway, twenty years ago
Speaker 3: I went to the vineyard and Hastens on Napier or
Speaker 3: somewhere around there, and when he was singing he've got
Speaker 3: his son up into the stage and the sun was
Speaker 3: about eight nineteen eleven. Studied scene and I ran down
Speaker 3: to the front of the stage.
Speaker 2: So did he do a Mission of State concert? Today?
Speaker 2: He's at the Mission Winery one. Oh god, okay, Oh
Speaker 2: that's interesting. We'll talk more about that because there's plenty
Speaker 2: of people out there. That's right now, bread basket, plenty
Speaker 2: of our people have gone there. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was Brian Wilson or the whole of the Beach Boys,
Speaker 2: but you might have been there to see that one.
Speaker 2: Also always good to talk about that, Dave, You've got
Speaker 2: breaking news.
Speaker 4: Good evening, Marcus, what's happened with TV three? I've tuned
Speaker 4: in to watch TV three news. No TV three or Edam.
Speaker 4: It's not there, it's gone. I'm chlost and I'm just
Speaker 4: wondering what's happened with TV three and Eden? Because I
Speaker 4: like the Salvage Hunters as well. Hang on, you like
Speaker 4: the one Salvage Hunters true put who tretch down the antiques?
Speaker 2: We're talking about Drew last night. Actually a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of love for Drew. Mind, he's quite arrogant,
Speaker 2: isn't he.
Speaker 4: Well, we but I do appreciate him and I respect
Speaker 4: his knowledge, and it's an interesting program.
Speaker 2: But and just well we're here. Dave T has some
Speaker 2: good lines. He's funny, yes he is.
Speaker 4: They're both humorous. Him and Tea are quite They like
Speaker 4: a laugh and I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Hey, I'll see if I can find it. This is
Speaker 2: not part of Air a Day. This is not you
Speaker 2: kind of.
Speaker 4: Not No, I don't think so. I've just checked my
Speaker 4: just double check, because I like TV three news. I
Speaker 4: cannot get TV three I can get but Marcus, I
Speaker 4: can get TV three plus one.
Speaker 2: You give now how weird's that?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 6: It is weird.
Speaker 4: And I can also get Eden plus one And in
Speaker 4: other words, I've just watched the the plus one Eden,
Speaker 4: which is seven o'clock Drew Pritchard. But that's my question question, Johnny,
Speaker 4: is what's happened with TV three.
Speaker 2: For a confusing night? You're in a confusing that's like
Speaker 2: daylight savings all over if your time shift. Hey, this
Speaker 2: is going to be weird for you.
Speaker 7: It's shotting my headn't mate.
Speaker 2: Someone said it's working fine Wellington and that's so much
Speaker 2: you he says it. Okay, I'm in.
Speaker 4: Christ Church and I've just put it out there. I
Speaker 4: don't know it's pilot here because I have a double
Speaker 4: checked it and I've just putting it out there.
Speaker 2: I don't know appreciate anyone enough to. Could someone call
Speaker 2: me from christ Church to tell me if TV three
Speaker 2: is working?
Speaker 8: Please?
Speaker 2: People loving the Eden did even though it was a
Speaker 2: channel christ Church, christ Church. If you got TV three,
Speaker 2: could you go and check please? If it's not working?
Speaker 2: What are we going to do for Dave working? Fine
Speaker 2: and Wellington? Someone said that woman sounded like Jane Charoot,
Speaker 2: one of Wolvers Smith's characters. Love Jan Sharot. Never heard
Speaker 2: of them. Oh eight hundred and eight was a strong start.
Speaker 2: But what are we going about TV three off the
Speaker 2: air cheapers but they're on Plus one. Well, no one's
Speaker 2: coming through and saying it is there?
Speaker 6: Isn't on.
Speaker 2: The Angels Weep was the book with Jan Charot. It's
Speaker 2: a great name for a character, isn't it with their
Speaker 2: blood streak body text will call me if you've got
Speaker 2: a situation with not with Jan Sharout, but with TV
Speaker 2: three in christ Church. I'll look on their website. Maybe
Speaker 2: they've pulled the pin. I can't even work out what's
Speaker 2: going on there people Drew Prichard. Funnily enough, we've never
Speaker 2: talked about true Pritchard. There is names come in conversation
Speaker 2: two nights in a row, which are the Beach Boys people,
Speaker 2: and particularly the pet Sounds album it Particularly you're a musician,
Speaker 2: there'll be some out there on their way to gigs.
Speaker 2: Can tell me what makes it such a gem of
Speaker 2: an album, because people always go on and on about
Speaker 2: that such a short album contained so much, including the
Speaker 2: song that was ruined by the chocolate commercial and Sloop
Speaker 2: John b. Of course I didn't write that there was
Speaker 2: an old cut one old Seahs Sea Shanty, but they
Speaker 2: certainly made that their own. I think the Kingston Trowey
Speaker 2: had a guard just about killed it like they do
Speaker 2: John Dooley, Tom Dooley and Knew seventeen past eight Learn.
Speaker 2: That's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Lynn, Hi, Yeah.
Speaker 9: Hi Marcus.
Speaker 10: This is a linen from christ Church.
Speaker 9: I've just switched over to TV three and I'm getting
Speaker 9: no trouble.
Speaker 2: Okay, So there must be must be some pilot. It
Speaker 2: might be his TV or his remote or something.
Speaker 8: Well, it still could be a certain area.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm in.
Speaker 8: Stockburn.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't think he'd be far from Sockburnlan, thank you.
Speaker 2: I look with sockburners. I know he goes to the
Speaker 2: hot pools. He's not far from there. I reckon what
Speaker 2: would he be? What will he done? I reckon he's
Speaker 2: kind of the cats at the remote or something.
Speaker 7: Funny.
Speaker 2: Old name for s Sockburn, isn't it? Out of all
Speaker 2: the things you can name a sub of your name,
Speaker 2: it's Sockburn. What's going on? Christ Jitch, the old burner
Speaker 2: of the sock got no idea where it is? It's west,
Speaker 2: It's halfway to Melton, West Melton, Diane Marcus welcome.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm on the east side.
Speaker 11: I can get TV three and the other okay, so
Speaker 11: it must be his TV remote.
Speaker 2: You get the Eden and you get the TV three
Speaker 2: right yep?
Speaker 6: And the Plus one here yep.
Speaker 2: Okay. It's gonna be a big night for Dave storting
Speaker 2: out as remote. Anyone got the suggestions what Dave could
Speaker 2: have done wrong? Dan, you've got strong opinions on David
Speaker 2: is remote, haven't you. I'd do a rescan sometimes the
Speaker 2: channels a piece of my TV have to a rescan
Speaker 2: or just change all your clocks to fit in with
Speaker 2: plus one. I'd do a rescan get in touch Marcus
Speaker 2: till twelve oh eight hundred while am I having people
Speaker 2: text me at twelve past seven? My sister must be
Speaker 2: listening online the Beach Boys album or the Beach Boys
Speaker 2: in general. And Brian Wilson must have performed at the mission.
Speaker 2: I've only been to the mission once. It was all right,
Speaker 2: But they're all been there over the years, haven't they.
Speaker 2: What'll be the worst one? Ray Charles Kitty Roger's, Rod Stewart,
Speaker 2: Eric Clapperton, But it must have been also the Beach Boys.
Speaker 2: Can't see them on the list. Chris de Burgh would
Speaker 2: be a good night, wouldn't it? Oh eight hundred and eighty?
Speaker 2: Taddy in nine nine two text boy, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think I just TV three just turned off in christ
Speaker 2: Durt's throw it down and get in touch. My name
Speaker 2: is Marcus welcome. He'll be enough of his breaking usual
Speaker 2: hero out of here first boy. We did well with
Speaker 2: the other Tarry the headline on that last night by
Speaker 2: the way too. If anyone's following the mushroom trial, could
Speaker 2: they sum that up for us? There was two steaks left,
Speaker 2: which was weird. But I'll tell you what. If she
Speaker 2: wanted to kill her family and get away with it,
Speaker 2: she just about managed to do it. She hadn't searched
Speaker 2: on a computer for killing mushrooms on the eye naturist
Speaker 2: site and sort out of cell phone, she probably would
Speaker 2: have done it. By the way, we've got that situation
Speaker 2: near Nelson Waka Powaka Road road blocked both directions. You
Speaker 2: might be eyeing the sky there. I don't know the road,
Speaker 2: don't even know how far out of the city it is,
Speaker 2: but that can be rectified. A quick Google map search
Speaker 2: for that one wa po Waker, not Jeepers. It's on
Speaker 2: the way north.
Speaker 12: Oh.
Speaker 2: That would be inconvenient for a lot of people. So
Speaker 2: if you got someone tell about that, come through too.
Speaker 2: Mirror of Females, Hi Marcus. I went to the Beach
Speaker 2: Boys concert at Western Springs February nine eight, well that's
Speaker 2: forty seven years ago. Was an afternoon concert. The weather
Speaker 2: was a real Beach Boys summer day. I was twenty
Speaker 2: at a boyfriend with MG Sports and thought life was
Speaker 2: pretty perfect that day, just an unfeartable moment in my life.
Speaker 2: The music was incredible to listen to live and a
Speaker 2: new Cameron got some great zoom shots of the band.
Speaker 2: Brian had a gift for composing music with beautiful harmonies
Speaker 2: and chords. He truly was the soundtrack to my life.
Speaker 2: And he must have performed a number of times in
Speaker 2: New Zealand, both solo and with the Beach Boys too,
Speaker 2: so that might be something you might remember. But also too,
Speaker 2: you might want to take some time to just share
Speaker 2: the reasons why you thought that he was such a
Speaker 2: musical genius. If that there's no doubt, I'll be curious
Speaker 2: to know how you articulate that, because yes, it's probably
Speaker 2: not something I can articulate well because I don't know.
Speaker 2: But before my time, I guess there wasn't something other rediscovered.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the musicians that love pet sounds, boy do
Speaker 2: they love it. They go big on that. Get in touch.
Speaker 2: My name is Marcus, Welcome eight twenty six, looking forward
Speaker 2: to your calls, traffic, wather all that other stuff up
Speaker 2: across that tonight too. So there's breaking usual here about
Speaker 2: that here first people, but also discussing the trial of
Speaker 2: the women in Australia with the mushrooms, what it tasted
Speaker 2: like to the beeth Wellington because you think if something
Speaker 2: was that toxic or it taste toxic. I'n't done much
Speaker 2: research about mushrooms, but I mean I think she had.
Speaker 2: She killed three, she killed two, killed three and put
Speaker 2: one in hospital for a month. I think pretty unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Marcus can't believe people watch TV anyway. Oh there's something
Speaker 2: about free will. I saw Beach Boys, christ Church nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy eight. According to Paul McCartney, God only knows why
Speaker 2: is the greatest song that was ever written. Marcus, they
Speaker 2: call her dumping the dehydrators. She said she'd never had.
Speaker 5: We have.
Speaker 2: She had to dehydrate the mushrooms because they're at a season.
Speaker 2: Is that right? I remember there was a few searches
Speaker 2: at the tip that they're trying to find something, but
Speaker 2: clearly she managed to hide the cell phone. Tell Dave
Speaker 2: to turn off the TV for two minutes. Dave turned
Speaker 2: off the TV for two minutes. Headle twelve. My name's Marcus, Welcome,
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty faulty. It's Marcus welcome,
Speaker 2: and good evening, evening evening faulty.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was busy team a Radia. Sorry, Mars. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you did ask for anything different than what you're talking about,
Speaker 7: ed the local up here, I'd like to mention the
Speaker 7: new highway that just opened to replace the men and
Speaker 7: were too good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that quite a bit last night.
Speaker 7: So it's good that you I'm sorry, No, that's fine, No.
Speaker 2: That's good, that's good. I'd like to hear your opinion
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 7: Well, well like that saying over here, it's brought the
Speaker 7: place alive again.
Speaker 2: Dana Rgea.
Speaker 7: Woodville, Woodville mainly, but also it's opened up, like you've
Speaker 7: got the straight highway one over one or two side.
Speaker 7: There's a lot of tourists going up that way, you know.
Speaker 7: And like they're talking on the radio now, it only
Speaker 7: takes eleven twelve minutes to go over over the hills,
Speaker 7: so to speak, from Woodville to Assues, whereas over the
Speaker 7: saddle road or the track that you're looking at twenty minutes.
Speaker 7: And we're talking trucks and trailers and things. So it's
Speaker 7: time saving, it's got a it's got a lower cost
Speaker 7: for people as well.
Speaker 2: But well tell me, tell me something faulty. If you're
Speaker 2: in Woodfall and you're working in Palmerston North and you
Speaker 2: finished work at five pm, what time are your home?
Speaker 7: Well, instead of twenty six minutes over the hill, it's
Speaker 7: going to take you eleven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's others you'd have to get from Issues
Speaker 2: to Palmerston, wouldn't you, And from the to the start
Speaker 2: of the road.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I don't travel that and I can't honestly
Speaker 7: answer your question. Yeah, but those are the figures I
Speaker 7: heard on the radio this morning, because apparently it opened
Speaker 7: for traffic yesterday.
Speaker 13: Is that?
Speaker 2: What's today? I think I opened. I think today's Tuesday.
Speaker 2: I think we're talking about on Tuesday morning, Tuesday night.
Speaker 7: Open, but no traffic were allowed about a week ago.
Speaker 2: Opened a sad day, then good to go Tuesday morning.
Speaker 7: Right, I'll tell you why. It's everybody. I'm an ex
Speaker 7: retailer from Danny Vert in the nineties, and I can
Speaker 7: imagine the struggle that the Woodville people have had, especially
Speaker 7: after that Gorge Road coast. So it's given a new
Speaker 7: breath of life into the Taylor UD and bringing the
Speaker 7: main traffic flow back over this site. So and that
Speaker 7: includes transport and tourists. So that's just what's really what
Speaker 7: I wanted to say.
Speaker 2: What's the point of Woodville.
Speaker 7: Well, it's there it's a it's a.
Speaker 2: Horse training kind of area, is it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's the main junction sort of thing between
Speaker 7: like you come from the Dannyburgh area to Woodville or
Speaker 7: you come up from say Eker Tahuna to Woodville to
Speaker 7: get access to the other side of our island.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a funnel effect. Markers.
Speaker 2: Is there retirement kind of a place?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 7: No, But but I'll tell you what if that road
Speaker 7: hadn't opened, it would have been.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how many how many people would be there?
Speaker 2: There'd be five thousand there.
Speaker 7: No, honestly I can't tell you. Again, I couldn't put
Speaker 7: a figure on it. But but our whole area covers
Speaker 7: from north within the North down to Mount Bruce. Do
Speaker 7: you know where Poka National Park?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Okay, from there that's about to up north of north
Speaker 7: of Northwood. So that's that whole area has now got
Speaker 7: access to the other side. As an it's costing people
Speaker 7: a heck of a lot less even to get something
Speaker 7: to delivered. For example, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: What's the weather, like, I guess all the rainfalls on
Speaker 2: the ranges, it's probably in kind of it's probably in
Speaker 2: like a rain drought area. Is it.
Speaker 7: No, No, it's rain will very low. What will used
Speaker 7: to be under the sea Originally there's a big valley
Speaker 7: that comes up from the lake Ferry from down Mortainway
Speaker 7: comes right up at the base of the Henny Dannyburg
Speaker 7: I think is only something like three hundred foot above
Speaker 7: sea level. So I mean like that. I may be
Speaker 7: three hundred meters, but I live at five hundred meters
Speaker 7: out from danny Rick towards the coast on the east coast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, copy that, okay.
Speaker 7: So I get a heck of a lot different weather
Speaker 7: up here, and I can see it coming heidnty snow.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I had sleep markers with a full moon the other night.
Speaker 7: Believe it or not, we had a polar blast.
Speaker 2: Love a polo blastfoll I'm going to run, but thank you?
Speaker 2: Does even know why? New Someone wants to know why
Speaker 2: Nelson Street off ramp is blocked and police turning traffic
Speaker 2: back the wrong way, multiple emergency vehicles. You know it's
Speaker 2: happening in Nelson Street. Something a bit grim's happened there
Speaker 2: by the sound of things get in touch. Brian Wilson
Speaker 2: back on the tara Ua Highway eleven and a half
Speaker 2: minutes they say, what a gorgeous looking road. You want
Speaker 2: to get a bus going there? Also to Brian Wilson,
Speaker 2: the beach boys, particularly the pet sounds albe might be
Speaker 2: a musician, wants to a pint about that, talk about that.
Speaker 2: I am up for those discussions. To get in touch
Speaker 2: marks till twelve on this cold night. But yeah, just
Speaker 2: ten days and the days start getting longer. Came around
Speaker 2: quick than I thought. Actually, factually the winter solstice just
Speaker 2: ten days away, although it gets colder for a month later,
Speaker 2: doesn't it. The earth kind of slowly cools down. Woodville
Speaker 2: population sixteen hundred and eighty growing at two percent per
Speaker 2: smaller than Bluff growing at two percent per annum. It'll
Speaker 2: start growing now, grow like Topsy from Google Map. Looks
Speaker 2: like quite a nice town. Sort of got a town
Speaker 2: square in the middle with dnal paths across. It looks good.
Speaker 2: A couple of all blacks have come from Woodville. I
Speaker 2: think Joe Schmidt came from Woodville as well. The coach,
Speaker 2: I think that might be the horse train I ever
Speaker 2: got that wrong? Was it pay Yere two where they
Speaker 2: train the horses? I think it's Woodville. We don't talk
Speaker 2: back at length on Woodville. Pretty sure that's the way
Speaker 2: it works. Ashurst, Well, that's a different kettle fish altogether.
Speaker 2: That's one on the other side. Always a bit surprised
Speaker 2: about the sunscreen story. It seems to come out of
Speaker 2: it every two years that they don't work. I think
Speaker 2: they'd be more stringent tests because people pay a fortune
Speaker 2: on sunscreen. It's kind of crazy if it doesn't kind
Speaker 2: of work, surprise. They can sell stuff that doesn't work
Speaker 2: and run it straight. That's moving to Dubai, which I
Speaker 2: think probably tells you everything you need to know about
Speaker 2: Dubai anyway, Karen, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Hi.
Speaker 7: Thanks.
Speaker 14: Following the mushroom casephoretically, and it's a definitely a very
Speaker 14: interesting situation with what went on and the loss of life,
Speaker 14: and it's quite bizarre to be fear to consider why
Speaker 14: this woman, as she's found guilty, actually undertook these actions.
Speaker 14: And you alluded earlier to the forty foundations of law
Speaker 14: that focus on proving beyond reasonable doubt that she's guilty
Speaker 14: and front of the jury, and you're quite right and
Speaker 14: suggesting there's the jury. There's fifteen members in Australia. I
Speaker 14: think one of them was discharged for commenting on the
Speaker 14: trial outside of after a court date. So they had
Speaker 14: twelve and they had three reserves, and now I guess
Speaker 14: they're down to two reserves. So I believe in this
Speaker 14: circumstance going to be a unanimous decision. They'll look for
Speaker 14: and around the key areas or the breakdown of the
Speaker 14: elements to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, the
Speaker 14: defense will be looking to see whether or not she
Speaker 14: caused the death, and the cause will link that is,
Speaker 14: one event led to another, so that'll be hotly and
Speaker 14: widely debated, no doubt in the court case. And I
Speaker 14: believe this is going to be a six to seven
Speaker 14: week court case, which is extremely long, but when you've
Speaker 14: lost three lives, it's sensor reason that you want to
Speaker 14: challenge or look for those links to.
Speaker 2: Just to recap. She had researched lethal mushrooms, right.
Speaker 15: I didn't see that.
Speaker 13: But what I thought was really really.
Speaker 15: Bad was the fact that she bought a dehydrator and
Speaker 15: after that she went into two areas. I don't know
Speaker 15: how they ascertained this. It might be finding her mobile
Speaker 15: phone records, but she went into two areas where the
Speaker 15: deaf cat mushroom was located and it was no one
Speaker 15: to be located. And I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 15: googled to see what a death cat mushroom looks like,
Speaker 15: but it's quite unique, and that it's simple mushroom, but
Speaker 15: it's got green around the around the circumference of the
Speaker 15: sort of the lid of the mushrooms. So you can't
Speaker 15: say that, oh, got it confused with the normal mushroom,
Speaker 15: because it quite clearly has green. And yeah, she went
Speaker 15: looking for mushrooms in an area and tried to blame
Speaker 15: it on an Asian store that she claimed she'd brought
Speaker 15: the mushrooms from, and yet the police couldn't find any
Speaker 15: any other mushrooms or any other sicknesses related to people
Speaker 15: who had purchased or acquired mushrooms from that Asian store.
Speaker 15: So it's highly debatable just for the prostitution to prove
Speaker 15: that her actions of putting those mushrooms in the meal
Speaker 15: caused the death of her guests. And I also read
Speaker 15: somewhere that although they were unwell immediately after that, one
Speaker 15: of the guests refused to get admitted to hospitals, and
Speaker 15: the gentlemen or their father in law said this either
Speaker 15: key witness in this obviously he said that at the
Speaker 15: dinner that there were four distinctly different plates. They were
Speaker 15: colored differently to the plate that Eerin Patterson ate bomb
Speaker 15: to the size, and the color of her base was
Speaker 15: meek and different to the fore plates that they all
Speaker 15: ate from.
Speaker 2: So she ate beef Wellington without the mushrooms.
Speaker 16: And obviously, obviously and there must have been and the children,
Speaker 16: her children have said that she ate beef Wellington that
Speaker 16: was prepared from a previous.
Speaker 13: Lunch, or the lunch earlier that day or somewhet. So
Speaker 13: she had taken a meal, her meal from that previous
Speaker 13: meal and prepared a different meal for her in laws
Speaker 13: and their relatives or so, it's absolutely disgraceful action of
Speaker 13: the woman to do that. I don't know if she realized,
Speaker 13: but apparently the deathcap mushroom. Mushroom, even a mouthful can kill,
Speaker 13: depending on your age, your house, and your immunity.
Speaker 2: Okay, I leave it there, Carab, but thanks so much
Speaker 2: for that's fascinating, really good to hear from you. There
Speaker 2: appears to have been a fairly serious plane crash in
Speaker 2: India and our membered Ahmedabad an Air India flight carrying
Speaker 2: at least one hundred ninety five people besides crew members.
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety five besides crew members crashed in
Speaker 2: our Medabad's Mcgani area near the city's airport Thursday morning,
Speaker 2: sorry Thursday afternoon and videos shared online. Smoke was seen
Speaker 2: emanated from their Dani Airport premises. The aircraft, a Boeing Dreamliner,
Speaker 2: took off around one forty seven pm, slightly slaid from schedule.
Speaker 2: Officials say it was air bound for about nine minutes
Speaker 2: before it crashed, so it hasn't crashed on takeoff. It
Speaker 2: crashed nine minutes after takeoff with one hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: five people on board excluding crew members. That report I'm
Speaker 2: reading is from the Indian Express. That's the most recent
Speaker 2: update I can get on that one with the most details.
Speaker 2: I'll bring in more information about that when I can. Angela,
Speaker 2: good evening. Hello, Hi Angela.
Speaker 10: How's it going. I hear you. You've been talking lots
Speaker 10: about the exciting new road over between one or two
Speaker 10: and to Do or the highway.
Speaker 2: Yes, we have certain.
Speaker 10: Any impacts that's been having on Woodville yep.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So I'm a business owner in Woodville and I commute
Speaker 10: that road daily and what a difference it has made
Speaker 10: to the commute time, the travel, the town and everything.
Speaker 2: So how does that work? So you don't live in Woodville,
Speaker 2: you work there and you live in Palmerston? Is that right? No?
Speaker 10: No, I'd actually live in rural men were two near Fielding.
Speaker 10: What used to take me anywhere between forty five minutes
Speaker 10: and an hour and twenty to drive takes me thirty
Speaker 10: one minutes now wow. So that obviously depends on the traffic.
Speaker 10: You get stuck behind the trucks on the saddle road
Speaker 10: whatever might might come across. But on a good day
Speaker 10: it was forty five minutes, it's now thirty one.
Speaker 2: Why you don't just live in Woodville?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 10: Yeah, was a good little town. But we brought into
Speaker 10: a business recently there and the kids and stuff go
Speaker 10: to school.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're building enough?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Easier has it been? What have been implications for the
Speaker 2: town and the seven years that they haven't had the road?
Speaker 2: It has it slowed the town.
Speaker 6: Down huge.
Speaker 10: Closed that. It hasn't closed the town down, but it's
Speaker 10: made business hard. A good chunk of the traffic would
Speaker 10: have bypassed the town and now in the last twenty
Speaker 10: four to thirty six hours it's been open that through.
Speaker 10: Traffic's just significantly increased. The car parks are full, the
Speaker 10: car parks used to be empty. There's a real vibe
Speaker 10: and a bustle in the in the village now, which
Speaker 10: is really positive. Like they've been hanging out for this
Speaker 10: for eight years, Like it's been eight.
Speaker 2: A long time to wait a yeah, really long and.
Speaker 10: The locals are resilent, resilient. But yeah, this week's been
Speaker 10: a really good week for the community.
Speaker 2: It's great story for a lot of people in Woodville
Speaker 2: work in Parmaston North and commute one hundred percent.
Speaker 10: Yep, definitely. There's lots of commuters even from Danny Urk
Speaker 10: and further Afield commuting daily and vice versa. So like
Speaker 10: the difference it makes from Woodball to Parmestan North nineteen
Speaker 10: minutes it used to be half an hour.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, okay, wow wow, yeah, okay, that's something.
Speaker 10: You could guarantee, you know, like and you'd be almost
Speaker 10: guaranteed that the fire sirens would go off and there'd
Speaker 10: be an accident on the set or someone slipped off it,
Speaker 10: so that would hold up hold out your commute time
Speaker 10: as well. So you're coming much safer road.
Speaker 2: Will you go to work? You're going against the flow
Speaker 2: most cars again the other way.
Speaker 10: You are, No, No, it's both ways and you've got
Speaker 10: trucks going both ways all the time.
Speaker 2: So it's busy already. I'm what I'm saying. The road
Speaker 2: is big enough. There's enough lanes of tandling the traffic
Speaker 2: one hundred.
Speaker 10: Percent, and it's it's well, four lanes, two lanes each way,
Speaker 10: no congestion, No one's getting stuck behind slow traffic because
Speaker 10: there's a lane to jump into to overtake and pass them.
Speaker 10: You can get from Ashes to Woodville and what used
Speaker 10: to be twenty minutes fifteen to twenty minutes and under ten,
Speaker 10: well under ten, like six to eight minutes.
Speaker 2: Now we'd stop breaking around. Can your hand? Can you
Speaker 2: all car handle the gradient?
Speaker 10: One hundred percent? Definitely it can.
Speaker 2: Yep, god's ten percent. Someone said they can. Ho was
Speaker 2: a bit gutless on it, but yours is fine.
Speaker 11: Oh well, I.
Speaker 10: Think my mind's fine. And no one looks like they're
Speaker 10: really struggling out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh god, Oh that's it's been a good week
Speaker 2: for you, then, has it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Brilliant?
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you have, you have to come visit Woodville,
Speaker 10: have a wonderful coffin.
Speaker 2: I will do. Ang'l nice to hear from me. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's all positive. And she's going against the fly, well
Speaker 2: kind of against the flow. Oh eight, what are her businesses?
Speaker 2: Would be the wind Farm Cafe. That'd be my guess. Okay,
Speaker 2: google episode, because you'd say you have to come and
Speaker 2: have a coffee, didn't you? I wonder, Sean Marcus. Welcome mushrooms.
Speaker 6: Very simple rule. Never eat a mushroom has been growing
Speaker 6: under a tree, and if you can't peel it, it's
Speaker 6: not safe. So that it's got to be dark underside
Speaker 6: and the girl's dark and you can peel it and
Speaker 6: then you're safe. Anything that's white or growing under a tree,
Speaker 6: leave it well alone. White. There's a toadstore.
Speaker 8: It seems.
Speaker 2: It seems, it seems in nature that things that are
Speaker 2: poisonous don't taste that good. Do you know what death
Speaker 2: caps taste like?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 6: Never try them?
Speaker 17: No.
Speaker 6: No. But if it's why, don't write gels underneath. Don't
Speaker 6: touch it.
Speaker 2: But I think in this case, Sean, she was deliberately
Speaker 2: trying to poison her family.
Speaker 6: Oh that's a different different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, she's like opposite week for her Sean, but
Speaker 2: thanks for hanging on there. Someone said why would you
Speaker 2: dehydrate the mushrooms? I think because they're probably hard to
Speaker 2: get the right amount. You have to go on a
Speaker 2: few foraging occasions and you dehydrate them, and you'd store
Speaker 2: them to get enough for the beef Wellington because you
Speaker 2: want to be spread right through. I've watched them make
Speaker 2: the beef Wellington watching last night with Old Gordon Ramjet's recipe.
Speaker 2: You've got proshutto and you've got meat and then you've
Speaker 2: got pancakes. It's a complicated kind of thing in pastry.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of different mushrooms you put in there.
Speaker 2: We want to get all spread around, so who everyone
Speaker 2: get to bits if you're trying to kill them. If
Speaker 2: the new road is not going to be told, does
Speaker 2: that mean motris? The locals should expect the new future
Speaker 2: the near future. The sudden appearance of point to point
Speaker 2: cameras at either end.
Speaker 13: Mark.
Speaker 2: Is The danger with all this talk and exposing to
Speaker 2: what happened with the mushroom instant is it gives wayward
Speaker 2: thinking people all sorts of ideas insights into doing a
Speaker 2: copycat crime themselves. Wow, that's a good point. But they've
Speaker 2: got the Internet anyway, which is free range for those
Speaker 2: kind of crazies. Would I go to some random, random
Speaker 2: person's place they have beef Wellington, I'll check in the
Speaker 2: cupboard first to say that a d hydrateer. Do we
Speaker 2: have death caps and news in and I don't know?
Speaker 2: Some say yes, some say no. I don't know. Marcus
Speaker 2: good to be the city. I've got a power cut,
Speaker 2: so went off the radio. Over to the radio for
Speaker 2: a change. One of my favorite things about Brian Wilson
Speaker 2: was his daughters Karney and Wendy joining with China Phillips,
Speaker 2: daughter of John Michelle Pillips or the Mums and the
Speaker 2: pupa is to make Wilson Phillips. That's right. I was
Speaker 2: quite a fan of Wilson Phillips on the day with
Speaker 2: hold On, hold On for all One? I forgot about that.
Speaker 2: What movie was that used in Bridesmaids or something? They
Speaker 2: used that big? Did they just a bit more information
Speaker 2: on this Air India flight according to who was that
Speaker 2: dan that you said? The last one according to know
Speaker 2: the one about the situation that hadn't landed at the
Speaker 2: airport landed beyond the perimeter. According to the Indian Aviation Regulator,
Speaker 2: the airplane has landed beyond the perimeter of the airport
Speaker 2: in a civilian area, which probably I would imagine will
Speaker 2: be adding to casualties. It was a seven eight to
Speaker 2: seven h eight Dreamliner and the air planes that have
Speaker 2: been in service for thirteen years and they have carried
Speaker 2: over one billion passengers and there has not been any
Speaker 2: extents that result in a loss of aircraft or fatality,
Speaker 2: so they have had a perfect safety record until now.
Speaker 2: So just confirming over two undred people on that flight.
Speaker 2: And there's not much footage yet of the fuselage, but
Speaker 2: there's still footage of the fireball and the smoke and
Speaker 2: it appears as though it's accident. They'd be free, very
Speaker 2: lucky to survive. There was a flight from a Metabad
Speaker 2: to Gatwick in London that just happened about probably one
Speaker 2: hour ago. I'll bring you more details when i've got
Speaker 2: those people. So if you've got more informational to do,
Speaker 2: let me know. So, yes, that's the situation there. I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's surprising, it's not surprising, but there's been
Speaker 2: no footage or shots of the impact zone. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's built up residentially. Requite what's happening there,
Speaker 2: Garyet's Marcus. Good evening and welcome, Good.
Speaker 18: Evening, Marcus. How are you you good?
Speaker 7: Gary Good? Yeah.
Speaker 18: Nineteen ninety nine, I went and saw the Beach Boys
Speaker 18: at Melbrook and Okay, really really really quite disappointed Brian
Speaker 18: Wilson didn't come on stage. I mean they didn't tell
Speaker 18: us before. And Mike Love, one of the members that
Speaker 18: he carried the whole vocal work, the whole the whole day.
Speaker 18: You know, he did a damn good job of it.
Speaker 18: But it was that I was reading that he was
Speaker 18: very erratic with us when he turned up for concerts,
Speaker 18: and that he was often not well you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and seems to have kind of founded up around
Speaker 2: the world the best intentions, but sometimes it might just
Speaker 2: have been too much from other sounds of things.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think so. Yeah, But it was a good
Speaker 18: show outside at Milburk, and Mike Love did a pretty
Speaker 18: good job.
Speaker 2: Were you like a super fan, Gary, because I know
Speaker 2: some people the Beach Boys about Brian Wilson, people just
Speaker 2: adore his music.
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, growing up at my age now, and you know,
Speaker 18: they were big and they you know, they you know,
Speaker 18: they were party songs, you know, and they to give
Speaker 18: us songs, and you know, they were quite quite good
Speaker 18: songs for all sorts of occasions. But yeah, they didn't
Speaker 18: you know, you know, I can't remember so long ago,
Speaker 18: but you know, I was disappointed that that Wilson wasn't
Speaker 18: on stage and he must have been croc or something.
Speaker 18: But I was just reading earlier today that he had
Speaker 18: a lot of ups and downs with his other reasons why.
Speaker 2: He got for good age though, which I was pleased
Speaker 2: to see he did.
Speaker 18: He did well well because he had a pretty they
Speaker 18: had drug habit for quite a while too, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 18: he yeah, but my glove. He was a big, tall
Speaker 18: guy and he wore a cap and he carried the
Speaker 18: whole show basically, and he did a hell of a
Speaker 18: good job, you know. But no, that was Melbourne nineteen
Speaker 18: ninety nine.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize they were concerts at Millbrook. Did they
Speaker 2: have them there? And amongst the golf course?
Speaker 18: Yes, yes, yes, on the flat yes yes, because it
Speaker 18: wasn't until they went out the road to that ran.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 18: Yeah, this was way before it. This was way before
Speaker 18: they found that nice location. But this was all on
Speaker 18: the flat and yeah, they were there and they had
Speaker 18: they had you go. Yeah, they had the sounds, you know,
Speaker 18: that's what we went for. But it was a bit
Speaker 18: disappointing he wasn't there.
Speaker 2: But did they they acknowledge that.
Speaker 18: No, no, they never even told us before the show
Speaker 18: or anything.
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 18: No, the show just fired up and they were all
Speaker 18: there and they had the organ sound that they had.
Speaker 18: The sound was perfect, but they just didn't have them,
Speaker 18: you know.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, oh, nice to hear from anyway. Gary, that's a
Speaker 2: nice change of tune. Patricia, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Good.
Speaker 11: Evening, Marcus by Patricia. Lovely to have you back.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 11: Well, I'd like to talk about the mushroom case. I've
Speaker 11: been following it from Australia. So the latest I've heard
Speaker 11: was you probably know everything that's been going on already,
Speaker 11: but they increased the jury to fourteen usually twelve, but
Speaker 11: they've increased it by another two and probably the case
Speaker 11: will go on for another six days. But getting down
Speaker 11: to the probably the information that I'm going to tell
Speaker 11: you is probably from the poor relative from the hospital.
Speaker 11: Well this was what they said that with the mushroom soup.
Speaker 11: She had an orange bowl. All the in laws had
Speaker 11: gray bowls. They suggested to her that she had the
Speaker 11: orange bowl for herself so it couldn't be mixed up
Speaker 11: with the gray bowls with the poison, so she couldn't answer.
Speaker 11: She said she wasn't even aware of the bowls being
Speaker 11: different colors. So that's all my import from everything going
Speaker 11: on here, Patricia.
Speaker 2: Did they talk about Did she talk about why she'd
Speaker 2: thrown away the dehydrator?
Speaker 18: No, I didn't hear that, Okay, I just.
Speaker 11: Thought i'd bring you up to the different colors. She
Speaker 11: had bowl being orange and the in laws bowls were gray,
Speaker 11: and she said she wasn't even aware she had different
Speaker 11: colored bowls. She couldn't really answer anyway.
Speaker 2: You wonder if how they managed to find it to
Speaker 2: be fit to trial too, because it seems to be
Speaker 2: a bizarre and of real unwealthy to want to carry out.
Speaker 2: But oh well, that's justice for you.
Speaker 11: I suppose her estranged husband she invited too, but he refused,
Speaker 11: so he's very lucky. He's so lucky now that he
Speaker 11: did not go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, Patricia, I guess probably one of the
Speaker 2: reasons they haven't taken such a real I've been kind
Speaker 2: of interested, but I've found a lot of the details
Speaker 2: quite confusing. But just because you know what it's like,
Speaker 2: you don't get the whole summing up of the case.
Speaker 2: But I also believe there'll be a movie of it soon,
Speaker 2: which will be compelling, be a great movie. Evening David's
Speaker 2: Marcus Welcome.
Speaker 12: Had it on. Hey, I can probably answer some of
Speaker 12: those questions about what was missing in that last.
Speaker 2: Call of details you've been following yet.
Speaker 12: Yeah, So I mean it's a pretty strong circumstantial case
Speaker 12: against her. Yeah, And so her whole argument of why
Speaker 12: she got rid of the dehydrator was because the ex
Speaker 12: husband or they're still married, as I understand it, told
Speaker 12: her at the hospital is that how you poisoned my parents.
Speaker 12: So therefore she freaked and then got rid of it
Speaker 12: the next day at the rubbish tip, which was, of course,
Speaker 12: after the doctors had already told her that they suspected
Speaker 12: mushroom poisoning.
Speaker 7: So there's a.
Speaker 12: Whole lot of things in there that are very very strong,
Speaker 12: circumstantially against it.
Speaker 8: Dave.
Speaker 2: Was it hard for her to get the mushrooms? Were
Speaker 2: they quite hard to find?
Speaker 12: I can only tell you what I've what I've read,
Speaker 12: and so she randomly joined or a website called Eynaturist
Speaker 12: where they would report the location of these these mushrooms.
Speaker 12: And so you know, she's got to explain why she
Speaker 12: would go to that site, where she pretty much can't.
Speaker 12: She says she foraged for mushrooms. Later she told everyone
Speaker 12: initially she didn't. You know that it's very seldom in
Speaker 12: a murder case that there's a smoking gun. It's always,
Speaker 12: you know, all the strands of evidence that combined together,
Speaker 12: you know, to convict, which there's a very very strong
Speaker 12: circumstantial case against her. But he next stage, as I understand,
Speaker 12: it will be the defenses chance to put forward their case.
Speaker 12: You know, they may very well have some some witnesses,
Speaker 12: but at this stage it does look like from the
Speaker 12: circumstantial evidence, you know, she probably did do it. It
Speaker 12: was one of those things there.
Speaker 2: Dave, was there a compelling I can't quite work out
Speaker 2: the motive?
Speaker 12: Well on Facebook and whatnot. Of friends, she'd if the
Speaker 12: Iffing family was to that effect, because they wouldn't get
Speaker 12: involved in you in the child support.
Speaker 2: Okay, that was about okay, okay, so it's about child
Speaker 2: She tried.
Speaker 12: To him to come. She tried to get the husband
Speaker 12: to come. Okay, so you know she probably wanted if
Speaker 12: she did do it, because remember, you know, the only
Speaker 12: one that really knows is her. You know, she wanted
Speaker 12: to take them all out and were the children.
Speaker 2: Were the children themselves at that meal?
Speaker 12: No, she sent them away on that day randomly. And
Speaker 12: you know, so the item that she built that she
Speaker 12: made from the recipe was supposed to be a lock
Speaker 12: ie one piece, but she made them as individual pieces,
Speaker 12: including an extra and in case, you know, the husband came.
Speaker 12: And so you know, you got to ask yourself why
Speaker 12: she didn't get sick if she ate the same meal.
Speaker 12: She says that she had diarrhea. They see her going
Speaker 12: to a toilet for eight seconds and come out says
Speaker 12: that she had to relieve herself on the side of
Speaker 12: the motorway the next day while or road while driving
Speaker 12: her sudden to flying less and he doesn't recall it.
Speaker 12: You know, it's not the kind of thing you'd forget, right,
Speaker 12: So driving along, Mum or Dad needs to pull over
Speaker 12: because they have to quote relieve themselves. And we're not talking,
Speaker 12: you know, we's here, we're talking. You know something else,
Speaker 12: So you know.
Speaker 7: It's it's it's high.
Speaker 12: And the other, which is she's got an answer for everything,
Speaker 12: this lady, and you know, and one be careful what
Speaker 12: to say.
Speaker 2: But it's best villains do. But yeah, well I think
Speaker 2: we're right under under subject to say because we're in
Speaker 2: New Zealand station, we're broadcasting in New Zealand, so yeah,
Speaker 2: we're not influenced the jury.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So the one is that she know she got rid
Speaker 12: of her phone. Well there was two phones. The cops
Speaker 12: found one when they searched her house and she reset
Speaker 12: them remotely and they still haven't found the second one,
Speaker 12: you know. And so she also said that she went
Speaker 12: to an Asian grosser to get his mushrooms, et cetera.
Speaker 12: She came up with, you know, quite a number of stories.
Speaker 12: Didn't want to I didn't want to take the I
Speaker 12: don't think that's a big deal about not wanting to
Speaker 12: take the kids to the hospital, because if they don't
Speaker 12: have symptoms, then you know, why would you take them
Speaker 12: to the hospital. But the real question is you know
Speaker 12: that that that poison is obviously pretty potent. You know,
Speaker 12: the guy survived took months before he came right, So
Speaker 12: if she had even a small portion of it. She
Speaker 12: would have had more than just you know, a mild diarrhea.
Speaker 12: If she would have, she would have been in trouble.
Speaker 2: And so was this something, David, Her going for a
Speaker 2: gastric surgery?
Speaker 16: Was it?
Speaker 2: Did you follow that part of the evidence.
Speaker 13: Yep.
Speaker 12: So what she said was was that she she lied
Speaker 12: about She's admitted to lying or implying that she led
Speaker 12: them on that she had cancer, which she didn't have.
Speaker 12: And so she said that she had a medical procedure
Speaker 12: at some some you know, private hospital or whatever coming up,
Speaker 12: and that was going to be gastric bypass surgery. However
Speaker 12: that hospital doesn't do it. So she's like, well, I
Speaker 12: don't know that, you know, I was going to go
Speaker 12: for life per suction. So there's i mean, you know,
Speaker 12: one or two of them on their own. But yeah,
Speaker 12: there's thirty or forty things that she's got to explain,
Speaker 12: and you know they the far simpler explanation is that
Speaker 12: is that she did it. And if she didn't do it,
Speaker 12: if she's innocent, she's bloody unlucky, and she's bloody stupid
Speaker 12: because she made herself look guilty as hell.
Speaker 2: Love to hear from me, Dave, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: Full it's Marcus. Welcome.
Speaker 12: Hey Marcus, there's quite a few details about the place
Speaker 12: that to us, it just seems like such a couple
Speaker 12: of idiot moves from from the defendant. I mean, clearly,
Speaker 12: I think she is but daft, but she clearly wasn't
Speaker 12: expecting there to be any witnesses the next day or
Speaker 12: the next week. You know some of the things that
Speaker 12: the different color polls, and it's.
Speaker 2: A very everyone was everyone was supposed to die.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think things like the different color bawls
Speaker 12: and things people like we'd be saying, oh, why should
Speaker 12: do that? But she didn't expect that there'd be anybody
Speaker 12: to to, you know. She she thought that maybe the
Speaker 12: next week she could say, oh, I know all the
Speaker 12: bowls were the same, and this week, you know, she
Speaker 12: didn't know.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: And also it's I think it kind of seems to
Speaker 12: like even if her kids are are not prepared to life,
Speaker 12: where because their testimony has been very unhelpful, as it seems.
Speaker 2: Are the children with the father.
Speaker 12: I'm not sure?
Speaker 2: Okay, because you also you also wonder why that why
Speaker 2: her advisors didn't because it sounds like it sounds like
Speaker 2: she's unwell, doesn't it to want to do that. I
Speaker 2: mean it sounds like you'd almost have some sort of
Speaker 2: defense of insanity.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 12: I mean, if stupidity was was a defense, I think
Speaker 12: should be well advised.
Speaker 2: Or she could. But but but as you say, Phil,
Speaker 2: she could have got away with it cold if she
Speaker 2: If they'd all died.
Speaker 12: Quite well, quite possibly, it would have been much harder
Speaker 12: for her to much harder for the prosecution there would you, like, say,
Speaker 12: no witnesses too. She could she could have made up
Speaker 12: any any number of events and they it would have
Speaker 12: been very difficult to.
Speaker 7: To crew her wrong.
Speaker 2: Although it's very clear that it was deathcat mushrooms that
Speaker 2: killed them. I mean, that's that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: the cause of death is quite straightforward. It's just how
Speaker 2: they got there.
Speaker 12: There's the string of circumstantial evidence that is only it
Speaker 12: was only made available because the witnesses lived to tell
Speaker 12: a story.
Speaker 2: And there was just one witness that lived.
Speaker 8: Is that right?
Speaker 9: There was just the.
Speaker 12: Or some I think some of them lived. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: I'm not sure anyway, that's me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, thank you, far I do appreciate it. Here
Speaker 2: till midnight, we're talking about Brian Wilson. We're talking about
Speaker 2: also the mushroom case in Australia, which is fascinating. I
Speaker 2: don't quite know why I felt it quite it was
Speaker 2: quite long winded to try and kind of get across
Speaker 2: what was happening. You really needed to kind of commit
Speaker 2: to following the trial to follow it. So I've been
Speaker 2: really grateful for the people who have come through with
Speaker 2: the reports. This text has said too, which is quite
Speaker 2: good background the Pattersons, the in laws didn't want to
Speaker 2: get in between Erin's relationship issues with their son, so
Speaker 2: Aaron said she had cancer and invited them around Inclin
Speaker 2: the next husband for discussing on ideas on how to
Speaker 2: inform the children. That's why the children went there. Apparently
Speaker 2: her exton trust her with food as had a problem before,
Speaker 2: so didn't go at the last minute. Had she tried
Speaker 2: to poison him before? Do I remember that? Going on?
Speaker 2: That's what we are discussing, looking forward to what you've
Speaker 2: got to say. Seven past ten more, it's Marcus, Welcome.
Speaker 9: Hi Marcus. I've got some more information on the mushroom courts.
Speaker 9: Only one is still alive and he's been sitting in
Speaker 9: on all the court cases every day. She did apparently
Speaker 9: try and poison someone once before, but of course they're
Speaker 9: not able to mention that now for this case, the
Speaker 9: hospital wrung her and said to her that she should
Speaker 9: come in because the others had been admitted and were
Speaker 9: seriously ill and they were really concerned about her. So
Speaker 9: she went into hospital and then after ten minutes discharged herself.
Speaker 9: And that was when she went and panicked and got
Speaker 9: rid of the d hydrator, and then she went back
Speaker 9: into hospital because she was a bit concerned. I think
Speaker 9: that was the following day, and they were monitoring her
Speaker 9: bowel movements in the hospital and she was she had
Speaker 9: like quite severe diarrhea. Then she's admitted to having a us.
Speaker 2: Listening yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yes, oh yeah. She's admitted to have an
Speaker 9: eating disword. At most of her life she was a binger,
Speaker 9: so she ate, you know, couldn't help eating lots of food.
Speaker 9: So I found it quite interesting that at the meal
Speaker 9: itself she only ate one third of the beef Wellington.
Speaker 9: She didn't eat the whole lot where the others, yeah,
Speaker 9: we're eating at all. She left a plate for the
Speaker 9: husband in case he turned up, and the next day
Speaker 9: she actually gave it to the kids, but she took
Speaker 9: out the mushrooms and the pastry because they didn't like
Speaker 9: mushrooms or pastry, So.
Speaker 7: Gosh, she didn't.
Speaker 9: She didn't. It wasn't typical for her to have dinners
Speaker 9: or social events at all at her house, and she
Speaker 9: didn't have anything to do with his family usually except
Speaker 9: when she saw them at church. She said that she
Speaker 9: had them over for dinner that night because she was
Speaker 9: going to tell them she had cancer, but really she
Speaker 9: needed them to look after the kids, so she wanted
Speaker 9: to work out a sort of childcare plan while she
Speaker 9: was in hospital getting some liposuction done. So that's all
Speaker 9: the extra information I've got.
Speaker 2: Well, there was something that she went into a gas
Speaker 2: station and they were one in what she was doing
Speaker 2: in a gas station. That was early on on the trial,
Speaker 2: which I got confused by, do you have an information
Speaker 2: about that?
Speaker 7: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 9: So the next day she took her son to a
Speaker 9: football game, which was like at least an hour away
Speaker 9: in the car, and apparently he was hungry on the
Speaker 9: way home, so she just called into the gas station
Speaker 9: to get him some food.
Speaker 2: And why was that significant, I'm not sure? Okay, And
Speaker 2: with her toxicology report. Had she eaten the death caps
Speaker 2: or no? Did they do it? Did they work out
Speaker 2: whether she had any mild poisoning or was that because
Speaker 2: I presume she had need any of it?
Speaker 15: Had she.
Speaker 9: Well, they said she ate a third of it, And
Speaker 9: I haven't heard about the toxology report actually confirming that. Yeah,
Speaker 9: but that. Yeah, but they were like monitoring her bowel
Speaker 9: movements and she went something like eleven times and a
Speaker 9: few minutes something crazy when she did go back. But
Speaker 9: I mean she could have taken something to make.
Speaker 2: Her go to the er course of course.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that while she went, you know, sort of discharged herself.
Speaker 9: And yeah, she might have thought to go back and
Speaker 9: do that for that reason. That was me what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, gosh, underlying it just tragic for those kids,
Speaker 2: say that's it just sounds like just as like a
Speaker 2: ghastly scenario, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: It does?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a mother who clearly appears to be unhinged.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so. And I thought that the son
Speaker 9: actually said when they said that what the guy before
Speaker 9: said that they were standing up for them in court.
Speaker 9: I thought he actually said, Yeah, No, he did say
Speaker 9: that she had been on the toilet a lot. So, yeah,
Speaker 9: they are sticking up for okay, sticking up.
Speaker 4: For a yeah.
Speaker 2: Inter was she so? Was she sold custody or was
Speaker 2: she shared custody with the father?
Speaker 9: No, she shared custody. And it sounded like he was
Speaker 9: sticking up for a well, he wasn't sticking up for
Speaker 9: a bit, but he wasn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can imagine if you're living with some
Speaker 2: of that for a long time, that you yourself could
Speaker 2: be slightly you yourself could be slightly twisted, and you're thinking,
Speaker 2: couldn't you. I mean that's the situation you're environment for
Speaker 2: a long time. Do they go to the Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they do. They still go to the same.
Speaker 9: Church she goes. Sounds like she goes to Yes, she
Speaker 9: goes to the church with his family, and I assume
Speaker 9: he goes to that church as well.
Speaker 18: The ex.
Speaker 2: Do you ever know what you go?
Speaker 9: I don't think she had a good relationship with any
Speaker 9: of his family though. Yeah, like she it wasn't a
Speaker 9: normal thing for them to go to her house for dinner.
Speaker 9: I think it was the first time they'd ever been
Speaker 9: around for dinner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't look it's going to end well for her.
Speaker 5: Does it.
Speaker 2: No, No, because what witnesses would they call for her defense?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: Maybe, I don't know, maybe her friends, the character references,
Speaker 9: but as that guy before said, she had been bad
Speaker 9: mouthing them on a group chat the family before the meal.
Speaker 2: And yeah, do you know any think about the gathering
Speaker 2: the mushrooms she got that eye naturalist site just started
Speaker 2: doing that. I wonder, you know, because you'd have to
Speaker 2: get all the you'd have to get.
Speaker 18: All the you go.
Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, she she swore that she didn't forage those mushrooms,
Speaker 9: that she actually did get them from a Asian market supermarket.
Speaker 9: But it was weird that she had been on that website.
Speaker 14: That was weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and she hadn't got rid of her such history
Speaker 2: that that was all there on the on the computer.
Speaker 2: Is that right?
Speaker 9: That's right? And then there was a whole weird thing
Speaker 9: about the all the phones there was four you know,
Speaker 9: how you'd take your phone back to the original setting.
Speaker 9: She had done that four times on her phone, and
Speaker 9: she had blamed that she got a new SIM card
Speaker 9: on giving one of her phones to her children, so
Speaker 9: she'd wiped it back to factory settings and then put
Speaker 9: a new SIM card in for a child, and then
Speaker 9: they took her phone, so she took her phone she'd
Speaker 9: given to her child back and that's why she had
Speaker 9: to take it back again to factory settings to use
Speaker 9: it again. There was a whole lot of factory settings
Speaker 9: with the phone swhich was really weird as well.
Speaker 2: You know, I didn't I didn't know about that because
Speaker 2: I didn't even know about factory settings. I didn't even
Speaker 2: know that was something you could do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, if you want to clear everything that's on your
Speaker 9: phone and put it back to how it is when
Speaker 9: you first buy a phone, that's what you do.
Speaker 2: I thought it was all on your card. No it's not, No,
Speaker 2: not all of it.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So is it what you're like more or is this
Speaker 2: case particularly fascinating or you're just that true crime stuff.
Speaker 9: I'm into the I sort of. I got well, I
Speaker 9: got into the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard one. I
Speaker 9: watched that every day, and now I've been on the
Speaker 9: Puff Daddy one and Puff Diddy and this one the Mushroom.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's been it's been a big couple of
Speaker 2: years for you.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it has.
Speaker 2: Okay, a great recap, Thanks very much.
Speaker 6: For that.
Speaker 2: Mon appreciate that greatly.
Speaker 6: There we go.
Speaker 2: I'll find that very interesting. Actually, yeah, that's great. Get
Speaker 2: in touch you or talk one of his markets. Also
Speaker 2: talking about Brian Wilson, who starts there. You might have
Speaker 2: seen him perform New Zealand. You might have seen the
Speaker 2: Beach Boys performing New Zealand. You might have seen them
Speaker 2: perform elsewhere. You might have had some running with them.
Speaker 2: You also might want to be one of those musicians
Speaker 2: that want to tell me just the level of his genius,
Speaker 2: because I do know he was a genius, and I
Speaker 2: know people love pet sounds. I spent some time listening
Speaker 2: to that today. I'll spend more time listening it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'm not quite into the depths of it yet, but
Speaker 2: I know musicians just absolutely love it. A tiny album,
Speaker 2: thirty eight minutes, so twelve short songs, but yes, I
Speaker 2: think it's voted sort of the second greatest album of
Speaker 2: all time. Nineteen past ten. The number is, oh, eight
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eight. We are getting reports that
Speaker 2: there has been a landslide in Littleton. Now it says
Speaker 2: that that's evacuated multiple properties or cause multiple properties be evacuated.
Speaker 2: That right, so four places have been affected or four
Speaker 2: places have been caused to be evacuated. Yeah, so four
Speaker 2: places have been evacuated. Ambulances, urban search and rescue, fire
Speaker 2: and police are all there. So that's potentially looking like
Speaker 2: quite a serious situation. That's a landslide in Littleton. We
Speaker 2: have a photojournalist that is heading there and I'll bring
Speaker 2: you more information about that when we have that. If
Speaker 2: you've got some more information, text us through. We'll call
Speaker 2: us about that. Twenty past ten, Brian, and that's Marcus.
Speaker 2: Good evening. Hi.
Speaker 5: Just a couple of points. A caller earlier meant that
Speaker 5: there were She said there were fourteen jurors who were
Speaker 5: actually fifteen jurors selected originally one was discharged during the trial,
Speaker 5: but when they go to consider their verdict there will
Speaker 5: be only twelve, so they must have two in reserve,
Speaker 5: which is a bit different to the New Zealand from
Speaker 5: the other point is that the evidence has concluded, and
Speaker 5: obviously the defendant is she was the main witness for
Speaker 5: the defense to cross examination finished late this afternoon and
Speaker 5: as I read it, that is the finish of the
Speaker 5: of all the evidence and now it'll be up to
Speaker 5: the prosecution and defense the sun up and then the judge.
Speaker 5: So we wait with interest.
Speaker 2: Is it a different a different judicial system there, apart
Speaker 2: from the number.
Speaker 5: On the job. Well, yeah, yeah, I mean, to my knowledge,
Speaker 5: there's no law in New Zealand that allows more than
Speaker 5: twelve jurorsm collected. So I presume they have juralism, you know,
Speaker 5: and I stand by in case I needed so.
Speaker 2: So her lawyers not yet had a chance to pick
Speaker 2: their holes in the prosecution's case.
Speaker 5: Well, they would have been cross examining all the prosecution witnesses.
Speaker 5: But they will get the last. The next stage that
Speaker 5: I understand is that the prosecution will sum up their case,
Speaker 5: followed by the defense, followed by the judge. No doubt
Speaker 5: they'll the defenseful try and picks me hold of it
Speaker 5: if they can when they make these omissions.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm at the I'm at the stage
Speaker 2: where I'm thinking, I'm surprised they didn't go to trial
Speaker 2: without a plea bag or something beforehand, or some sort
Speaker 2: of defense, some sort of claim of diminished responsibil because
Speaker 2: it seems like it seems like she's got no case.
Speaker 5: No, it looks very very strong circumstantially against it. But
Speaker 5: who knows. With juries, you never know, but I'd be
Speaker 5: surprised if they found her anything other than guilty. But yeah,
Speaker 5: we wait with interest.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if there's anything. I don't even
Speaker 2: know if there's any president with that. There's there been
Speaker 2: other cases of mushroom poisoning.
Speaker 5: I can't I haven't had a club.
Speaker 2: I'll look into it. Yeah, I'll look into it.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fascinating, and of course there will be a movie,
Speaker 2: but yeah, what I Yeah, I'm going to just to
Speaker 2: see the whole thing. Does seems unfortunate with her own
Speaker 2: wellness and the custody battle and the parents, and yeah,
Speaker 2: what an unfortunate circumstance and dresstic action to try and
Speaker 2: kill everyone. You imagine your mind goes down there. How
Speaker 2: we do all mushrooms? That's going to be the answer, Patty,
Speaker 2: it's Marcus. Good evening.
Speaker 8: I'll get an Marcus just plane. About the plane crash,
Speaker 8: CNN was saying that it's sort of seven to nine minutes,
Speaker 8: like initially dead and they were coming back on May Day.
Speaker 8: That's what they're reporting to so and the interesting fact
Speaker 8: about this plane also, it's the US plane owned owned
Speaker 8: by that who make those streamliners in the States, but
Speaker 8: they don't. They had all the Rolls voiced engines taken
Speaker 8: off and they use a cheaper Indian brand for those
Speaker 8: streamliners for and they've been running those streamliners for about
Speaker 8: thirteen years and hadn't had any problem. So it's it's
Speaker 8: probably going to be a long investigation, you know.
Speaker 2: So there were trouble with the Rolls Royce engines were there?
Speaker 8: Is that right?
Speaker 17: And they replaced them with there No, it's only India
Speaker 17: that I think you had choice. Okay, Rod's voice are
Speaker 17: usually what people what most countries would go with on
Speaker 17: the Dreamliners. I know Quantis that I think they do
Speaker 17: the Rod's voice with their Dreamliners. Most of them do
Speaker 17: the Roll's voice engines because I mean they'd be the
Speaker 17: top of the line. But India had a different one.
Speaker 8: It was fully serviced in India also, So yeah, so
Speaker 8: whether but it's still owned by Boeing. The planes are
Speaker 8: all still owned that they'll send a team and to
Speaker 8: investigate Bowing. Everything has to be frozen and Boeing going
Speaker 8: there and check it all out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was mentioned, but I've seen
Speaker 2: n Patty, but I did read it that the the
Speaker 2: chief executive of her in there as a guy from
Speaker 2: christ Church is a key we guy. Was that mentioned
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 8: Oh no, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I presume he's based India. But yeah, I hadn't heard
Speaker 2: that either. Okay, oh that's interesting information. So Paddy did
Speaker 2: appear as though the plate had taken off, and then
Speaker 2: there was a made and it turned around mayday call.
Speaker 8: Yeah it got to.
Speaker 2: Six hundred feet had it turned around and came into
Speaker 2: kind of land? Yeah?
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously there was a mate cast face.
Speaker 2: Look because the footage I've seen it coming into land,
Speaker 2: it looked quite in control. It looked like a standard
Speaker 2: kind of a landing, but just fell short of the
Speaker 2: fell short of the runway.
Speaker 8: Yeah for you, isn't it that's hard? You know when
Speaker 8: they look like they've got an you know it would
Speaker 8: be you know, yeah, I wonder what the may day
Speaker 8: I mean, whether it's the engines were on fire.
Speaker 2: You couldn't see any smoke or anything that looked like
Speaker 2: it was quite standard. I'm going to run petty, but
Speaker 2: thank you. Seventeen to eleven, eight hundred eight ten eighty
Speaker 2: and nine two nine two de text markus still twelve
Speaker 2: of you talk about this or anything else feel free
Speaker 2: and the mushroom case that people are impressed with people's
Speaker 2: level of detail on it. People are really quite compelled
Speaker 2: by this. What's a pretty fascinating case the human condition
Speaker 2: and all of that. So yeah, eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: ten eighty and nine two nine two de text a
Speaker 2: text here high Marcus as a Boeing pilot myself looks
Speaker 2: like from the very short video from takeoff, either had
Speaker 2: no flap selected, or a low flap setting such as
Speaker 2: five degrees five is generally okay for a full length
Speaker 2: runway takeoff, or he had five degrees and possibly took
Speaker 2: off from an intersection point along the runway as an
Speaker 2: i e. Not the full length, then you would generally
Speaker 2: need a high flap setting like fifteen to twenty degrees.
Speaker 2: It's not necessarily an engine power issue. It's a lift
Speaker 2: generation from the wings and flaps issue. Cheers, Gazer. The
Speaker 2: Beach Boys were my first concent in nineteen seventy five
Speaker 2: when I was thirteen at Western Springs. Saw them again
Speaker 2: in the nineties at Baypark Toddonger double bill with Chicago Magical.
Speaker 2: We'll never forget how good they were. But BBC knowledgeable
Speaker 2: commentator said wheels should have been up in seconds and
Speaker 2: weren't one minute, and in flaps were attracted which shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been. They need to be right out for Ma's lift. Evening,
Speaker 2: Bruce Marcus, welcome.
Speaker 19: Yeah, day Marcus. Yeah, how's it all gone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, good things, Bruce.
Speaker 19: It's a way they not just that. Yeah, I've looked
Speaker 19: at a few of those views of that plane crash.
Speaker 19: But yeah, it's hard to tell, but it's a bit grainy.
Speaker 19: But to me, he's I don't know, it looks like
Speaker 19: they've selected the flaps up and see with the undercarriage.
Speaker 19: But yeah, and it just wouldn't fly at all. It's
Speaker 19: too much to egg and under carriage and still looks
Speaker 19: a bit that way.
Speaker 2: But that I had to tell so William in the undercarriage,
Speaker 2: the undercarriage is up from until the ba is down
Speaker 2: until the plane's got elevation, hasn't it.
Speaker 19: I think normally they flipped down the carriage up after
Speaker 19: about you know, five or seven seconds some of that,
Speaker 19: I would say, And okay, but with the with the flips,
Speaker 19: they just slowly bring them up, like might take seven,
Speaker 19: six or seven minutes to bring the flets right up. Yeah,
Speaker 19: but better say yeah, if the FLEs went fully up,
Speaker 19: it's a bit hard to say. It looks like in
Speaker 19: the video, looks like they put it all right up.
Speaker 19: You know, there's no sick down at all, so the
Speaker 19: bugill look.
Speaker 2: But Bruce, Bruce, if that had happened, you wouldn't put
Speaker 2: a may Day out, would you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 19: Yeah, if it starts coming down, and yes, you definitely
Speaker 19: would yet.
Speaker 2: But if it's if it's you saying it could be
Speaker 2: pilot era, right, well, yeah.
Speaker 12: It's hard to say.
Speaker 19: They want to Yeah, I don't like saying that, but yeah,
Speaker 19: it looks a bit that way.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, I just can't. I just can't
Speaker 2: reconcile how you do because you've got your co pilot
Speaker 2: there as well. If there's if you've done the wrong,
Speaker 2: but you know, you wouldn't go may day, would you.
Speaker 19: Yeah, we'll put it this way. It just doesn't look
Speaker 19: like as much. Yeah, the flaps aren't done much and
Speaker 19: like that, they normally say down for a long time
Speaker 19: after take off, so yeah, and once they fully up,
Speaker 19: you had a bug or lift with the wheel stored
Speaker 19: in at lower speed. So yeah, but pretty devastating. The
Speaker 19: poor buggers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but wouldn't have much They wouldn't have much warning
Speaker 2: in the host lead if that guy to jump out
Speaker 2: the window. I mean, I'm just trying to think. But
Speaker 2: it must have only been matter of seconds.
Speaker 19: O year. It looks I've only seen one couple of
Speaker 19: videos on it tonight, but yeah, it's just it's devastating
Speaker 19: in it. But he wouldn't have much time, like, yeah,
Speaker 19: it's sitting pretty quickly.
Speaker 2: Right, nice yep, Nice hear from your Bruce thanks to
Speaker 2: twenty five Away from twelve. Marcus saw Brian Wilson as
Speaker 2: seventeen piece Better Pacific couple of years back. He was
Speaker 2: clearly damaged early, but the magic of the music was
Speaker 2: there in Spade Sandy dyed cheers, bears. I see Trump
Speaker 2: has added mounted rocket launches and precision guided missiles to
Speaker 2: his birthday parade on Saturday. What a unit? What a unit?
Speaker 2: Won't be watching the parade? He went to that one
Speaker 2: in France, which he kind of liked, didn't he? Marcus
Speaker 2: Cure Marcus from Melbourne, Australia. Nice here from you, isn't he?
Speaker 2: Would you please give a shout out to my Auntie Hurley,
Speaker 2: who is currently heading in christ Church Rehab Hospible aftering
Speaker 2: a fall injuring her neck. Get well soon, Grandma Hurley
Speaker 2: or Auntie Hurley. She is currently paralyzed from the shoulder down.
Speaker 2: There's a messagejunior head of her, so please could just
Speaker 2: hand her our love from the Melbourne family. I've got
Speaker 2: the Sandy Hurley, Shirley Kirkaha, Uncle Pop Pop and of
Speaker 2: course Nanny corcor next door. Love you, Nan, Shirley and
Speaker 2: Pop Pop. Get better, Auntie. We're thinking of you and
Speaker 2: sending you our adha love. Tk's any destiny in Danna.
Speaker 2: Thanks Marcus always tuning in from over the ditch. Nice
Speaker 2: to hear from you, isn't he cheers that get in touch?
Speaker 2: You want to talk Marcus till twelve I like a
Speaker 2: trans testmin kind of get well. It's almost like BBC
Speaker 2: World Service. By the way, can I was run away
Speaker 2: with the league? Surprising because well down there down twelve
Speaker 2: to four. I think they're head thirty eighteen at Shark Park.
Speaker 2: I love saying Shark Park, don't they. Oh, I've seen
Speaker 2: some more information to I read that for you, just
Speaker 2: about their crash, just because now the expert to talk
Speaker 2: about Lieutenant Colonel John R. Davidson, a former US Air
Speaker 2: Force pilot and commercial aviation safety consult said the Stricken
Speaker 2: Jets flight data was highly irregular. From the data available
Speaker 2: at AIC one seven one appeared to have reached takeoff speed,
Speaker 2: but not altitude. To be a six two five feet
Speaker 2: at over one hundred and seventy knots more than four
Speaker 2: minutes after rolling out is highly irregular. This suggests either
Speaker 2: of relate rotation or a stall shortly after takeoff. There
Speaker 2: are a number of possible scenarios thrust or engine performance issues,
Speaker 2: excessive aircraft weight, poor trim or flap configuration, or a
Speaker 2: more critical failure that affected the aircraft's ability to climb,
Speaker 2: whether winds share or even bird strike can't be ruled
Speaker 2: out either at this early stage. Former senior Airline pilot
Speaker 2: Serah Bartnaga told India's NDTV NDTV that a bird strike
Speaker 2: was a likely cause of the crash. Those vultures there,
Speaker 2: haven't they It looks prime a facy, like a case
Speaker 2: of modable bird hits wherein both the engines have lost power.
Speaker 2: The takeoff was perfect and just I believe short of
Speaker 2: taking the gear up, the aircraft started descending, which can
Speaker 2: happen only in case the engine loses power or the
Speaker 2: aircraft stopped developing lift. From the footage, it seemed like
Speaker 2: the takeoff was uneventful. The aircraft came down in a
Speaker 2: controlled fashion, so that's the latest. So the plane was
Speaker 2: going along the runway and it took off and continued
Speaker 2: to go in that same direction and then descended and
Speaker 2: had a building that was the doctor's hostel from the
Speaker 2: local hospital. There were two hundred and forty two people
Speaker 2: on board. The flight was bound for Gatwick. The New
Speaker 2: Zealand Embassy and India have spoken. They said, to their
Speaker 2: knowledge there were no kiwis on board that plane, so
Speaker 2: that peers as though there are casualties in the hostel
Speaker 2: as well. And I've seen no reports that anyone on
Speaker 2: the plane survived, but I haven't seen reports to the
Speaker 2: contry either, but I asked. I have been seeing reports
Speaker 2: that people in the hostel survived by jumping out of
Speaker 2: the window or one person did survive. Of course too,
Speaker 2: the plane was full of fuel. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it would have flown into London direct anyway. It would
Speaker 2: have been full of fuel, no doubt, and there was
Speaker 2: a massive explosion of fireball, then a lot of black
Speaker 2: smoke for a long long time.
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