WEBVTT - The ol' Burn-of-the-sock (12 June 2025)

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News

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<v Speaker 1>Talks at be.

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<v Speaker 2>You said and welcome, We good. Every one name is

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus Httil twelve. I hope you are good. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>not good, I hope you get better by the time

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<v Speaker 2>midnight rolls around. Your couple of topics tonight. What I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start off with tonight too. Firstly, first and

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<v Speaker 2>foremost is the death of Brian Wilson. And look what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say about that is this, Yeah, day

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<v Speaker 2>to eighty two. Now, I enjoy some music, types of music.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm passion about types of music. But I'm not a musician,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm a long way away from being a musician.

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<v Speaker 2>I never ever claim to be one. But however, any

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<v Speaker 2>friends of mine that are musicians, almost all of them

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<v Speaker 2>will rave about one album. And that album is pet

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds by the Beach Boys, and it's everyone's ultimate studio album.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never really totally understood why. But that's not

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<v Speaker 2>the point. The point is that those that know know

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<v Speaker 2>that that is the one that's an extraordinary album. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've spent some time day listening to that just because

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't really given it a good threshing ever really,

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<v Speaker 2>but just out of respect and just wanted to know more.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent some time listening to it. Well, of course

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<v Speaker 2>I love the sloop John B. And you gotta love that.

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<v Speaker 2>We must have sung that in school because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>song that you alderready kick in with. That's a ripper

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other songs. I mean, yeah, it's quite

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<v Speaker 2>an extraordinary album. It's an how that's going to take.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to spend a bit more time with I think,

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<v Speaker 2>to really appreciate it. But I wouldn't mind some reminiscence

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<v Speaker 2>about the Beach Boys tonight if there is something well

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<v Speaker 2>Brian Wilson or the Beach Boys in particular, if there

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<v Speaker 2>is something you want to say about that, just to

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<v Speaker 2>kick it all off. I don't know when how often

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<v Speaker 2>they toured New Zealand. I think Brian Wilson came a

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<v Speaker 2>number of times solo and performed. Of course, he was

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<v Speaker 2>someone that had his struggles and I don't know that

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<v Speaker 2>performance was always comfortable for him, but he was probably

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<v Speaker 2>someone that you've seen performing. I know he was at

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<v Speaker 2>the Town Hall an Auckland number of years back, him

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<v Speaker 2>on the piano, But that might be something you want

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<v Speaker 2>to mention mcnowledge, you might be a musician yourself, because

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<v Speaker 2>seemed very much about like the Carpenters, that Brian will

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<v Speaker 2>very much a musician's musician, that if you're a musician,

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<v Speaker 2>there were things that he would do that you really appreciated.

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<v Speaker 2>Now there might be something you want to say about that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm all there for that discussion tonight. So the

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<v Speaker 2>number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine

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<v Speaker 2>to nine to text, deaded eighty two. Didn't know he

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<v Speaker 2>was unwell, and I think there was situations that his estate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think he oh yeah, Look, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>do the full deep dive into what was going on

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<v Speaker 2>for him or his last years. I was more interested

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<v Speaker 2>in going back to listen to the music. Don't know

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<v Speaker 2>when Pet Sounds came out. I think it was aout

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth or the fifth of the albums. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got something to say about Brian Wilson, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they'd be a nice way to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>we haven't kind of honored a musician for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Although I tell you something about Pet Sounds. You put

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<v Speaker 2>Pet Sounds on and the first song is a fairly

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<v Speaker 2>good song, right, but it was destroyed by a Cadbury

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<v Speaker 2>chocolate ad. Wouldn't it be nice? Great song? As soon

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<v Speaker 2>as you go into it, all you can hear is

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<v Speaker 2>the commercial, which is probably if per chance I was

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<v Speaker 2>a great musician, I'd be very weary of lending any

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<v Speaker 2>of my songs to anything because you're completely ruined that

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<v Speaker 2>one only thirty nine minutes all up, pet sounds very short. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's short, but songs for shortened those days

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<v Speaker 2>two twenty four in and out done. You got thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>songs and you're out in thirty nine minutes, So way

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<v Speaker 2>it should be in it. I think a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>them are instrumentals as well. Slip John Beeges two fifty

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<v Speaker 2>eight around Nassau Town. We did Rome just staying all night,

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch on too. But now that's what we'll

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<v Speaker 2>start off with. Eight and eighty eight. And there is

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<v Speaker 2>a back topic. And I don't think we're in trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with subdued to say or anything, but this mushroom trial, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on there? Have the police ruined this case

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<v Speaker 2>because they seem to have a clear case of someone

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<v Speaker 2>poisoning people with mushrooms? They seem to have rid elevenance.

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<v Speaker 2>Haven't got a damn cell phone. She switched that round

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<v Speaker 2>and got a new sim cat or something. If you've swallowed,

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<v Speaker 2>if swallowed, if you followed that case, you might be

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<v Speaker 2>a study of the law. What's your take on it?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me it's quite close. She got away

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<v Speaker 2>to the perfect murder, a perfect murder. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>she will get away because you know how Australian justice works.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a woman that appears unusual, they'll normally convict her,

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like Lindy Chamblain got done with the dingo. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh eight hundred and eighty thirty nine nine to the text,

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to what you've got to say, Judith, it's

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus welcome, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Marcus, your son in a lot better than last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh thank you, Judith.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, now with Beach Boys. And I brought a

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<v Speaker 3>Beach Boys Elhuan down the op shop the other day

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<v Speaker 3>for about two dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>What one was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Beach Boys famous hats yep copy. Anyway, twenty years ago

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<v Speaker 3>I went to the vineyard and Hastens on Napier or

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere around there, and when he was singing he've got

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<v Speaker 3>his son up into the stage and the sun was

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<v Speaker 3>about eight nineteen eleven. Studied scene and I ran down

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<v Speaker 3>to the front of the stage.

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<v Speaker 2>So did he do a Mission of State concert? Today?

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<v Speaker 2>He's at the Mission Winery one. Oh god, okay, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>that's interesting. We'll talk more about that because there's plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of people out there. That's right now, bread basket, plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of our people have gone there. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it was Brian Wilson or the whole of the Beach Boys,

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<v Speaker 2>but you might have been there to see that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Also always good to talk about that, Dave, You've got

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<v Speaker 2>breaking news.

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<v Speaker 4>Good evening, Marcus, what's happened with TV three? I've tuned

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<v Speaker 4>in to watch TV three news. No TV three or Edam.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not there, it's gone. I'm chlost and I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>wondering what's happened with TV three and Eden? Because I

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<v Speaker 4>like the Salvage Hunters as well. Hang on, you like

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<v Speaker 4>the one Salvage Hunters true put who tretch down the antiques?

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about Drew last night. Actually a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of love for Drew. Mind, he's quite arrogant,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't he.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we but I do appreciate him and I respect

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<v Speaker 4>his knowledge, and it's an interesting program.

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<v Speaker 2>But and just well we're here. Dave T has some

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<v Speaker 2>good lines. He's funny, yes he is.

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<v Speaker 4>They're both humorous. Him and Tea are quite They like

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<v Speaker 4>a laugh and I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I'll see if I can find it. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not part of Air a Day. This is not you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Not No, I don't think so. I've just checked my

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<v Speaker 4>just double check, because I like TV three news. I

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<v Speaker 4>cannot get TV three I can get but Marcus, I

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<v Speaker 4>can get TV three plus one.

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<v Speaker 2>You give now how weird's that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>It is weird.

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<v Speaker 4>And I can also get Eden plus one And in

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<v Speaker 4>other words, I've just watched the the plus one Eden,

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<v Speaker 4>which is seven o'clock Drew Pritchard. But that's my question question, Johnny,

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<v Speaker 4>is what's happened with TV three.

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<v Speaker 2>For a confusing night? You're in a confusing that's like

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<v Speaker 2>daylight savings all over if your time shift. Hey, this

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be weird for you.

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<v Speaker 7>It's shotting my headn't mate.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone said it's working fine Wellington and that's so much

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<v Speaker 2>you he says it. Okay, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>Christ Church and I've just put it out there. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know it's pilot here because I have a double

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<v Speaker 4>checked it and I've just putting it out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know appreciate anyone enough to. Could someone call

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<v Speaker 2>me from christ Church to tell me if TV three

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<v Speaker 2>is working?

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<v Speaker 8>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>People loving the Eden did even though it was a

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<v Speaker 2>channel christ Church, christ Church. If you got TV three,

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<v Speaker 2>could you go and check please? If it's not working?

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<v Speaker 2>What are we going to do for Dave working? Fine

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<v Speaker 2>and Wellington? Someone said that woman sounded like Jane Charoot,

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<v Speaker 2>one of Wolvers Smith's characters. Love Jan Sharot. Never heard

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Oh eight hundred and eight was a strong start.

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<v Speaker 2>But what are we going about TV three off the

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<v Speaker 2>air cheapers but they're on Plus one. Well, no one's

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<v Speaker 2>coming through and saying it is there?

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<v Speaker 6>Isn't on.

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<v Speaker 2>The Angels Weep was the book with Jan Charot. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a great name for a character, isn't it with their

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<v Speaker 2>blood streak body text will call me if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>a situation with not with Jan Sharout, but with TV

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<v Speaker 2>three in christ Church. I'll look on their website. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>they've pulled the pin. I can't even work out what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on there people Drew Prichard. Funnily enough, we've never

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<v Speaker 2>talked about true Pritchard. There is names come in conversation

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<v Speaker 2>two nights in a row, which are the Beach Boys people,

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<v Speaker 2>and particularly the pet Sounds album it Particularly you're a musician,

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<v Speaker 2>there'll be some out there on their way to gigs.

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<v Speaker 2>Can tell me what makes it such a gem of

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<v Speaker 2>an album, because people always go on and on about

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<v Speaker 2>that such a short album contained so much, including the

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<v Speaker 2>song that was ruined by the chocolate commercial and Sloop

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<v Speaker 2>John b. Of course I didn't write that there was

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<v Speaker 2>an old cut one old Seahs Sea Shanty, but they

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<v Speaker 2>certainly made that their own. I think the Kingston Trowey

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<v Speaker 2>had a guard just about killed it like they do

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<v Speaker 2>John Dooley, Tom Dooley and Knew seventeen past eight Learn.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Lynn, Hi, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 9>Hi Marcus.

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<v Speaker 10>This is a linen from christ Church.

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<v Speaker 9>I've just switched over to TV three and I'm getting

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<v Speaker 9>no trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So there must be must be some pilot. It

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<v Speaker 2>might be his TV or his remote or something.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, it still could be a certain area.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 8>Stockburn.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't think he'd be far from Sockburnlan, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I look with sockburners. I know he goes to the

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<v Speaker 2>hot pools. He's not far from there. I reckon what

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<v Speaker 2>would he be? What will he done? I reckon he's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the cats at the remote or something.

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<v Speaker 7>Funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Old name for s Sockburn, isn't it? Out of all

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<v Speaker 2>the things you can name a sub of your name,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Sockburn. What's going on? Christ Jitch, the old burner

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<v Speaker 2>of the sock got no idea where it is? It's west,

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<v Speaker 2>It's halfway to Melton, West Melton, Diane Marcus welcome.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm on the east side.

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<v Speaker 11>I can get TV three and the other okay, so

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<v Speaker 11>it must be his TV remote.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the Eden and you get the TV three

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<v Speaker 2>right yep?

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<v Speaker 6>And the Plus one here yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. It's gonna be a big night for Dave storting

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<v Speaker 2>out as remote. Anyone got the suggestions what Dave could

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<v Speaker 2>have done wrong? Dan, you've got strong opinions on David

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<v Speaker 2>is remote, haven't you. I'd do a rescan sometimes the

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<v Speaker 2>channels a piece of my TV have to a rescan

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<v Speaker 2>or just change all your clocks to fit in with

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<v Speaker 2>plus one. I'd do a rescan get in touch Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>till twelve oh eight hundred while am I having people

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<v Speaker 2>text me at twelve past seven? My sister must be

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<v Speaker 2>listening online the Beach Boys album or the Beach Boys

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<v Speaker 2>in general. And Brian Wilson must have performed at the mission.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only been to the mission once. It was all right,

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<v Speaker 2>But they're all been there over the years, haven't they.

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<v Speaker 2>What'll be the worst one? Ray Charles Kitty Roger's, Rod Stewart,

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Clapperton, But it must have been also the Beach Boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't see them on the list. Chris de Burgh would

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<v Speaker 2>be a good night, wouldn't it? Oh eight hundred and eighty?

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<v Speaker 2>Taddy in nine nine two text boy, Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I just TV three just turned off in christ

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<v Speaker 2>Durt's throw it down and get in touch. My name

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<v Speaker 2>is Marcus welcome. He'll be enough of his breaking usual

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<v Speaker 2>hero out of here first boy. We did well with

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<v Speaker 2>the other Tarry the headline on that last night by

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<v Speaker 2>the way too. If anyone's following the mushroom trial, could

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<v Speaker 2>they sum that up for us? There was two steaks left,

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<v Speaker 2>which was weird. But I'll tell you what. If she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to kill her family and get away with it,

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<v Speaker 2>she just about managed to do it. She hadn't searched

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<v Speaker 2>on a computer for killing mushrooms on the eye naturist

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<v Speaker 2>site and sort out of cell phone, she probably would

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<v Speaker 2>have done it. By the way, we've got that situation

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<v Speaker 2>near Nelson Waka Powaka Road road blocked both directions. You

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<v Speaker 2>might be eyeing the sky there. I don't know the road,

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know how far out of the city it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but that can be rectified. A quick Google map search

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<v Speaker 2>for that one wa po Waker, not Jeepers. It's on

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<v Speaker 2>the way north.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be inconvenient for a lot of people. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you got someone tell about that, come through too.

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<v Speaker 2>Mirror of Females, Hi Marcus. I went to the Beach

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<v Speaker 2>Boys concert at Western Springs February nine eight, well that's

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<v Speaker 2>forty seven years ago. Was an afternoon concert. The weather

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<v Speaker 2>was a real Beach Boys summer day. I was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>at a boyfriend with MG Sports and thought life was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty perfect that day, just an unfeartable moment in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>The music was incredible to listen to live and a

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<v Speaker 2>new Cameron got some great zoom shots of the band.

0:15:31.253 --> 0:15:34.253
<v Speaker 2>Brian had a gift for composing music with beautiful harmonies

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<v Speaker 2>and chords. He truly was the soundtrack to my life.

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<v Speaker 2>And he must have performed a number of times in

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand, both solo and with the Beach Boys too,

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<v Speaker 2>so that might be something you might remember. But also too,

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<v Speaker 2>you might want to take some time to just share

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons why you thought that he was such a

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<v Speaker 2>musical genius. If that there's no doubt, I'll be curious

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<v Speaker 2>to know how you articulate that, because yes, it's probably

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<v Speaker 2>not something I can articulate well because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But before my time, I guess there wasn't something other rediscovered.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the musicians that love pet sounds, boy do

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<v Speaker 2>they love it. They go big on that. Get in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Marcus, Welcome eight twenty six, looking forward

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<v Speaker 2>to your calls, traffic, wather all that other stuff up

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<v Speaker 2>across that tonight too. So there's breaking usual here about

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<v Speaker 2>that here first people, but also discussing the trial of

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<v Speaker 2>the women in Australia with the mushrooms, what it tasted

0:16:45.053 --> 0:16:49.613
<v Speaker 2>like to the beeth Wellington because you think if something

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<v Speaker 2>was that toxic or it taste toxic. I'n't done much

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<v Speaker 2>research about mushrooms, but I mean I think she had.

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<v Speaker 2>She killed three, she killed two, killed three and put

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<v Speaker 2>one in hospital for a month. I think pretty unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Marcus can't believe people watch TV anyway. Oh there's something

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<v Speaker 2>about free will. I saw Beach Boys, christ Church nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy eight. According to Paul McCartney, God only knows why

0:17:28.293 --> 0:17:36.613
<v Speaker 2>is the greatest song that was ever written. Marcus, they

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<v Speaker 2>call her dumping the dehydrators. She said she'd never had.

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<v Speaker 5>We have.

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<v Speaker 2>She had to dehydrate the mushrooms because they're at a season.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right? I remember there was a few searches

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<v Speaker 2>at the tip that they're trying to find something, but

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<v Speaker 2>clearly she managed to hide the cell phone. Tell Dave

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<v Speaker 2>to turn off the TV for two minutes. Dave turned

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<v Speaker 2>off the TV for two minutes. Headle twelve. My name's Marcus, Welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred and eighty ten eighty faulty. It's Marcus welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>and good evening, evening evening faulty.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was busy team a Radia. Sorry, Mars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>you did ask for anything different than what you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 7>ed the local up here, I'd like to mention the

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<v Speaker 7>new highway that just opened to replace the men and

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<v Speaker 7>were too good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about that quite a bit last night.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's good that you I'm sorry, No, that's fine, No.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, that's good. I'd like to hear your opinion

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, well like that saying over here, it's brought the

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<v Speaker 7>place alive again.

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<v Speaker 2>Dana Rgea.

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<v Speaker 7>Woodville, Woodville mainly, but also it's opened up, like you've

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<v Speaker 7>got the straight highway one over one or two side.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of tourists going up that way, you know.

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<v Speaker 7>And like they're talking on the radio now, it only

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<v Speaker 7>takes eleven twelve minutes to go over over the hills,

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<v Speaker 7>so to speak, from Woodville to Assues, whereas over the

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<v Speaker 7>saddle road or the track that you're looking at twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 7>And we're talking trucks and trailers and things. So it's

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<v Speaker 7>time saving, it's got a it's got a lower cost

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<v Speaker 7>for people as well.

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<v Speaker 2>But well tell me, tell me something faulty. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>in Woodfall and you're working in Palmerston North and you

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<v Speaker 2>finished work at five pm, what time are your home?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, instead of twenty six minutes over the hill, it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to take you eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's others you'd have to get from Issues

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<v Speaker 2>to Palmerston, wouldn't you, And from the to the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the road.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, And I don't travel that and I can't honestly

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<v Speaker 7>answer your question. Yeah, but those are the figures I

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<v Speaker 7>heard on the radio this morning, because apparently it opened

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<v Speaker 7>for traffic yesterday.

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<v Speaker 13>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>What's today? I think I opened. I think today's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're talking about on Tuesday morning, Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 7>Open, but no traffic were allowed about a week ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Opened a sad day, then good to go Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, I'll tell you why. It's everybody. I'm an ex

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<v Speaker 7>retailer from Danny Vert in the nineties, and I can

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<v Speaker 7>imagine the struggle that the Woodville people have had, especially

0:20:41.853 --> 0:20:48.213
<v Speaker 7>after that Gorge Road coast. So it's given a new

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<v Speaker 7>breath of life into the Taylor UD and bringing the

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<v Speaker 7>main traffic flow back over this site. So and that

0:20:57.133 --> 0:21:01.013
<v Speaker 7>includes transport and tourists. So that's just what's really what

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to say.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the point of Woodville.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, it's there it's a it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Horse training kind of area, is it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but it's the main junction sort of thing between

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<v Speaker 7>like you come from the Dannyburgh area to Woodville or

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<v Speaker 7>you come up from say Eker Tahuna to Woodville to

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<v Speaker 7>get access to the other side of our island.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a funnel effect. Markers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there retirement kind of a place?

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<v Speaker 11>No?

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<v Speaker 7>No, But but I'll tell you what if that road

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<v Speaker 7>hadn't opened, it would have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, how many how many people would be there?

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<v Speaker 2>There'd be five thousand there.

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<v Speaker 7>No, honestly I can't tell you. Again, I couldn't put

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<v Speaker 7>a figure on it. But but our whole area covers

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<v Speaker 7>from north within the North down to Mount Bruce. Do

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<v Speaker 7>you know where Poka National Park?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:22:04.213 --> 0:22:10.773
<v Speaker 7>Okay, from there that's about to up north of north

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<v Speaker 7>of Northwood. So that's that whole area has now got

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<v Speaker 7>access to the other side. As an it's costing people

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<v Speaker 7>a heck of a lot less even to get something

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<v Speaker 7>to delivered. For example, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the weather, like, I guess all the rainfalls on

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<v Speaker 2>the ranges, it's probably in kind of it's probably in

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<v Speaker 2>like a rain drought area. Is it.

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<v Speaker 7>No, No, it's rain will very low. What will used

0:22:46.533 --> 0:22:50.053
<v Speaker 7>to be under the sea Originally there's a big valley

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<v Speaker 7>that comes up from the lake Ferry from down Mortainway

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<v Speaker 7>comes right up at the base of the Henny Dannyburg

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<v Speaker 7>I think is only something like three hundred foot above

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<v Speaker 7>sea level. So I mean like that. I may be

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<v Speaker 7>three hundred meters, but I live at five hundred meters

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<v Speaker 7>out from danny Rick towards the coast on the east coast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, copy that, okay.

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<v Speaker 7>So I get a heck of a lot different weather

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<v Speaker 7>up here, and I can see it coming heidnty snow.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I had sleep markers with a full moon the other night.

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<v Speaker 7>Believe it or not, we had a polar blast.

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<v Speaker 2>Love a polo blastfoll I'm going to run, but thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>Does even know why? New Someone wants to know why

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<v Speaker 2>Nelson Street off ramp is blocked and police turning traffic

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<v Speaker 2>back the wrong way, multiple emergency vehicles. You know it's

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<v Speaker 2>happening in Nelson Street. Something a bit grim's happened there

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<v Speaker 2>by the sound of things get in touch. Brian Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>back on the tara Ua Highway eleven and a half

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<v Speaker 2>minutes they say, what a gorgeous looking road. You want

0:24:02.733 --> 0:24:05.773
<v Speaker 2>to get a bus going there? Also to Brian Wilson,

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<v Speaker 2>the beach boys, particularly the pet sounds albe might be

0:24:08.613 --> 0:24:10.853
<v Speaker 2>a musician, wants to a pint about that, talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I am up for those discussions. To get in touch

0:24:13.253 --> 0:24:16.613
<v Speaker 2>marks till twelve on this cold night. But yeah, just

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<v Speaker 2>ten days and the days start getting longer. Came around

0:24:21.253 --> 0:24:28.213
<v Speaker 2>quick than I thought. Actually, factually the winter solstice just

0:24:28.253 --> 0:24:31.333
<v Speaker 2>ten days away, although it gets colder for a month later,

0:24:31.373 --> 0:24:38.173
<v Speaker 2>doesn't it. The earth kind of slowly cools down. Woodville

0:24:38.173 --> 0:24:41.893
<v Speaker 2>population sixteen hundred and eighty growing at two percent per

0:24:42.053 --> 0:24:45.653
<v Speaker 2>smaller than Bluff growing at two percent per annum. It'll

0:24:45.653 --> 0:24:52.293
<v Speaker 2>start growing now, grow like Topsy from Google Map. Looks

0:24:52.293 --> 0:24:53.973
<v Speaker 2>like quite a nice town. Sort of got a town

0:24:54.053 --> 0:24:57.653
<v Speaker 2>square in the middle with dnal paths across. It looks good.

0:24:58.613 --> 0:25:02.773
<v Speaker 2>A couple of all blacks have come from Woodville. I

0:25:02.773 --> 0:25:05.013
<v Speaker 2>think Joe Schmidt came from Woodville as well. The coach,

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<v Speaker 2>I think that might be the horse train I ever

0:25:07.973 --> 0:25:09.653
<v Speaker 2>got that wrong? Was it pay Yere two where they

0:25:09.653 --> 0:25:14.053
<v Speaker 2>train the horses? I think it's Woodville. We don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>back at length on Woodville. Pretty sure that's the way

0:25:18.173 --> 0:25:22.933
<v Speaker 2>it works. Ashurst, Well, that's a different kettle fish altogether.

0:25:25.013 --> 0:25:28.453
<v Speaker 2>That's one on the other side. Always a bit surprised

0:25:28.493 --> 0:25:31.093
<v Speaker 2>about the sunscreen story. It seems to come out of

0:25:31.093 --> 0:25:33.373
<v Speaker 2>it every two years that they don't work. I think

0:25:33.373 --> 0:25:38.293
<v Speaker 2>they'd be more stringent tests because people pay a fortune

0:25:38.293 --> 0:25:40.293
<v Speaker 2>on sunscreen. It's kind of crazy if it doesn't kind

0:25:40.333 --> 0:25:44.333
<v Speaker 2>of work, surprise. They can sell stuff that doesn't work

0:25:45.773 --> 0:25:51.293
<v Speaker 2>and run it straight. That's moving to Dubai, which I

0:25:51.333 --> 0:25:53.253
<v Speaker 2>think probably tells you everything you need to know about

0:25:53.293 --> 0:25:59.013
<v Speaker 2>Dubai anyway, Karen, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Hi.

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<v Speaker 7>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 14>Following the mushroom casephoretically, and it's a definitely a very

0:26:07.613 --> 0:26:13.013
<v Speaker 14>interesting situation with what went on and the loss of life,

0:26:13.973 --> 0:26:19.853
<v Speaker 14>and it's quite bizarre to be fear to consider why

0:26:20.093 --> 0:26:25.653
<v Speaker 14>this woman, as she's found guilty, actually undertook these actions.

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<v Speaker 14>And you alluded earlier to the forty foundations of law

0:26:32.293 --> 0:26:38.213
<v Speaker 14>that focus on proving beyond reasonable doubt that she's guilty

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<v Speaker 14>and front of the jury, and you're quite right and

0:26:44.373 --> 0:26:48.133
<v Speaker 14>suggesting there's the jury. There's fifteen members in Australia. I

0:26:48.333 --> 0:26:53.653
<v Speaker 14>think one of them was discharged for commenting on the

0:26:53.693 --> 0:26:58.453
<v Speaker 14>trial outside of after a court date. So they had

0:26:58.533 --> 0:27:01.773
<v Speaker 14>twelve and they had three reserves, and now I guess

0:27:01.813 --> 0:27:05.493
<v Speaker 14>they're down to two reserves. So I believe in this

0:27:05.653 --> 0:27:08.893
<v Speaker 14>circumstance going to be a unanimous decision. They'll look for

0:27:09.613 --> 0:27:13.333
<v Speaker 14>and around the key areas or the breakdown of the

0:27:13.373 --> 0:27:20.053
<v Speaker 14>elements to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. You know, the

0:27:20.093 --> 0:27:22.653
<v Speaker 14>defense will be looking to see whether or not she

0:27:22.813 --> 0:27:26.973
<v Speaker 14>caused the death, and the cause will link that is,

0:27:27.093 --> 0:27:32.253
<v Speaker 14>one event led to another, so that'll be hotly and

0:27:32.293 --> 0:27:37.013
<v Speaker 14>widely debated, no doubt in the court case. And I

0:27:37.093 --> 0:27:39.253
<v Speaker 14>believe this is going to be a six to seven

0:27:39.293 --> 0:27:42.853
<v Speaker 14>week court case, which is extremely long, but when you've

0:27:42.853 --> 0:27:47.533
<v Speaker 14>lost three lives, it's sensor reason that you want to

0:27:49.293 --> 0:27:54.013
<v Speaker 14>challenge or look for those links to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to recap. She had researched lethal mushrooms, right.

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<v Speaker 15>I didn't see that.

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<v Speaker 13>But what I thought was really really.

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<v Speaker 15>Bad was the fact that she bought a dehydrator and

0:28:12.373 --> 0:28:15.693
<v Speaker 15>after that she went into two areas. I don't know

0:28:15.733 --> 0:28:19.533
<v Speaker 15>how they ascertained this. It might be finding her mobile

0:28:19.533 --> 0:28:22.613
<v Speaker 15>phone records, but she went into two areas where the

0:28:22.693 --> 0:28:26.453
<v Speaker 15>deaf cat mushroom was located and it was no one

0:28:26.493 --> 0:28:28.533
<v Speaker 15>to be located. And I don't know if you've ever

0:28:29.413 --> 0:28:32.173
<v Speaker 15>googled to see what a death cat mushroom looks like,

0:28:32.693 --> 0:28:37.013
<v Speaker 15>but it's quite unique, and that it's simple mushroom, but

0:28:37.053 --> 0:28:43.413
<v Speaker 15>it's got green around the around the circumference of the

0:28:44.773 --> 0:28:48.133
<v Speaker 15>sort of the lid of the mushrooms. So you can't

0:28:48.173 --> 0:28:51.573
<v Speaker 15>say that, oh, got it confused with the normal mushroom,

0:28:51.613 --> 0:28:56.413
<v Speaker 15>because it quite clearly has green. And yeah, she went

0:28:56.453 --> 0:28:58.893
<v Speaker 15>looking for mushrooms in an area and tried to blame

0:28:58.933 --> 0:29:02.133
<v Speaker 15>it on an Asian store that she claimed she'd brought

0:29:02.133 --> 0:29:06.093
<v Speaker 15>the mushrooms from, and yet the police couldn't find any

0:29:06.413 --> 0:29:10.853
<v Speaker 15>any other mushrooms or any other sicknesses related to people

0:29:10.853 --> 0:29:14.373
<v Speaker 15>who had purchased or acquired mushrooms from that Asian store.

0:29:14.893 --> 0:29:19.813
<v Speaker 15>So it's highly debatable just for the prostitution to prove

0:29:20.293 --> 0:29:26.773
<v Speaker 15>that her actions of putting those mushrooms in the meal

0:29:27.653 --> 0:29:31.493
<v Speaker 15>caused the death of her guests. And I also read

0:29:31.533 --> 0:29:38.973
<v Speaker 15>somewhere that although they were unwell immediately after that, one

0:29:38.973 --> 0:29:45.093
<v Speaker 15>of the guests refused to get admitted to hospitals, and

0:29:47.893 --> 0:29:53.533
<v Speaker 15>the gentlemen or their father in law said this either

0:29:53.613 --> 0:29:56.373
<v Speaker 15>key witness in this obviously he said that at the

0:29:56.453 --> 0:30:03.213
<v Speaker 15>dinner that there were four distinctly different plates. They were

0:30:03.213 --> 0:30:08.413
<v Speaker 15>colored differently to the plate that Eerin Patterson ate bomb

0:30:08.773 --> 0:30:11.653
<v Speaker 15>to the size, and the color of her base was

0:30:11.973 --> 0:30:14.453
<v Speaker 15>meek and different to the fore plates that they all

0:30:14.573 --> 0:30:14.893
<v Speaker 15>ate from.

0:30:14.933 --> 0:30:16.853
<v Speaker 2>So she ate beef Wellington without the mushrooms.

0:30:16.893 --> 0:30:22.573
<v Speaker 16>And obviously, obviously and there must have been and the children,

0:30:23.133 --> 0:30:28.133
<v Speaker 16>her children have said that she ate beef Wellington that

0:30:28.453 --> 0:30:31.933
<v Speaker 16>was prepared from a previous.

0:30:31.773 --> 0:30:36.333
<v Speaker 13>Lunch, or the lunch earlier that day or somewhet. So

0:30:36.373 --> 0:30:41.733
<v Speaker 13>she had taken a meal, her meal from that previous

0:30:42.253 --> 0:30:49.333
<v Speaker 13>meal and prepared a different meal for her in laws

0:30:49.533 --> 0:30:56.013
<v Speaker 13>and their relatives or so, it's absolutely disgraceful action of

0:30:56.093 --> 0:30:58.973
<v Speaker 13>the woman to do that. I don't know if she realized,

0:30:59.213 --> 0:31:06.573
<v Speaker 13>but apparently the deathcap mushroom. Mushroom, even a mouthful can kill,

0:31:06.733 --> 0:31:10.453
<v Speaker 13>depending on your age, your house, and your immunity.

0:31:11.053 --> 0:31:12.773
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I leave it there, Carab, but thanks so much

0:31:12.813 --> 0:31:16.213
<v Speaker 2>for that's fascinating, really good to hear from you. There

0:31:16.213 --> 0:31:18.773
<v Speaker 2>appears to have been a fairly serious plane crash in

0:31:18.773 --> 0:31:24.493
<v Speaker 2>India and our membered Ahmedabad an Air India flight carrying

0:31:24.493 --> 0:31:27.333
<v Speaker 2>at least one hundred ninety five people besides crew members.

0:31:27.333 --> 0:31:30.373
<v Speaker 2>One hundred and ninety five besides crew members crashed in

0:31:30.613 --> 0:31:35.453
<v Speaker 2>our Medabad's Mcgani area near the city's airport Thursday morning,

0:31:36.133 --> 0:31:40.133
<v Speaker 2>sorry Thursday afternoon and videos shared online. Smoke was seen

0:31:40.133 --> 0:31:45.093
<v Speaker 2>emanated from their Dani Airport premises. The aircraft, a Boeing Dreamliner,

0:31:45.813 --> 0:31:50.173
<v Speaker 2>took off around one forty seven pm, slightly slaid from schedule.

0:31:50.933 --> 0:31:54.373
<v Speaker 2>Officials say it was air bound for about nine minutes

0:31:54.413 --> 0:31:59.973
<v Speaker 2>before it crashed, so it hasn't crashed on takeoff. It

0:32:00.173 --> 0:32:04.413
<v Speaker 2>crashed nine minutes after takeoff with one hundred and ninety

0:32:04.453 --> 0:32:10.453
<v Speaker 2>five people on board excluding crew members. That report I'm

0:32:10.493 --> 0:32:18.693
<v Speaker 2>reading is from the Indian Express. That's the most recent

0:32:18.773 --> 0:32:22.813
<v Speaker 2>update I can get on that one with the most details.

0:32:22.813 --> 0:32:26.093
<v Speaker 2>I'll bring in more information about that when I can. Angela,

0:32:26.133 --> 0:32:29.573
<v Speaker 2>good evening. Hello, Hi Angela.

0:32:30.973 --> 0:32:33.813
<v Speaker 10>How's it going. I hear you. You've been talking lots

0:32:33.813 --> 0:32:37.293
<v Speaker 10>about the exciting new road over between one or two

0:32:37.373 --> 0:32:39.693
<v Speaker 10>and to Do or the highway.

0:32:39.973 --> 0:32:41.293
<v Speaker 2>Yes, we have certain.

0:32:42.253 --> 0:32:44.893
<v Speaker 10>Any impacts that's been having on Woodville yep.

0:32:46.053 --> 0:32:46.333
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:32:46.373 --> 0:32:48.853
<v Speaker 10>So I'm a business owner in Woodville and I commute

0:32:48.853 --> 0:32:54.053
<v Speaker 10>that road daily and what a difference it has made

0:32:54.253 --> 0:32:58.453
<v Speaker 10>to the commute time, the travel, the town and everything.

0:32:58.973 --> 0:33:01.133
<v Speaker 2>So how does that work? So you don't live in Woodville,

0:33:01.173 --> 0:33:04.093
<v Speaker 2>you work there and you live in Palmerston? Is that right? No?

0:33:04.093 --> 0:33:08.013
<v Speaker 10>No, I'd actually live in rural men were two near Fielding.

0:33:09.213 --> 0:33:12.373
<v Speaker 10>What used to take me anywhere between forty five minutes

0:33:12.373 --> 0:33:15.533
<v Speaker 10>and an hour and twenty to drive takes me thirty

0:33:15.573 --> 0:33:20.413
<v Speaker 10>one minutes now wow. So that obviously depends on the traffic.

0:33:20.453 --> 0:33:22.653
<v Speaker 10>You get stuck behind the trucks on the saddle road

0:33:23.853 --> 0:33:26.693
<v Speaker 10>whatever might might come across. But on a good day

0:33:26.733 --> 0:33:29.733
<v Speaker 10>it was forty five minutes, it's now thirty one.

0:33:30.333 --> 0:33:31.813
<v Speaker 2>Why you don't just live in Woodville?

0:33:32.813 --> 0:33:33.133
<v Speaker 11>Oh?

0:33:34.293 --> 0:33:39.813
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, was a good little town. But we brought into

0:33:39.813 --> 0:33:42.893
<v Speaker 10>a business recently there and the kids and stuff go

0:33:42.933 --> 0:33:43.333
<v Speaker 10>to school.

0:33:43.493 --> 0:33:44.693
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you're building enough?

0:33:44.933 --> 0:33:45.133
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

0:33:45.293 --> 0:33:48.693
<v Speaker 2>Easier has it been? What have been implications for the

0:33:48.773 --> 0:33:50.733
<v Speaker 2>town and the seven years that they haven't had the road?

0:33:50.973 --> 0:33:52.813
<v Speaker 2>It has it slowed the town.

0:33:52.693 --> 0:33:53.573
<v Speaker 6>Down huge.

0:33:54.853 --> 0:33:57.573
<v Speaker 10>Closed that. It hasn't closed the town down, but it's

0:33:57.653 --> 0:34:02.853
<v Speaker 10>made business hard. A good chunk of the traffic would

0:34:02.893 --> 0:34:07.853
<v Speaker 10>have bypassed the town and now in the last twenty

0:34:07.893 --> 0:34:10.653
<v Speaker 10>four to thirty six hours it's been open that through.

0:34:10.733 --> 0:34:14.653
<v Speaker 10>Traffic's just significantly increased. The car parks are full, the

0:34:14.733 --> 0:34:18.853
<v Speaker 10>car parks used to be empty. There's a real vibe

0:34:18.933 --> 0:34:21.693
<v Speaker 10>and a bustle in the in the village now, which

0:34:21.773 --> 0:34:24.333
<v Speaker 10>is really positive. Like they've been hanging out for this

0:34:24.693 --> 0:34:27.133
<v Speaker 10>for eight years, Like it's been eight.

0:34:27.173 --> 0:34:30.733
<v Speaker 2>A long time to wait a yeah, really long and.

0:34:31.213 --> 0:34:36.413
<v Speaker 10>The locals are resilent, resilient. But yeah, this week's been

0:34:36.453 --> 0:34:38.133
<v Speaker 10>a really good week for the community.

0:34:38.333 --> 0:34:40.373
<v Speaker 2>It's great story for a lot of people in Woodville

0:34:40.733 --> 0:34:43.773
<v Speaker 2>work in Parmaston North and commute one hundred percent.

0:34:43.893 --> 0:34:47.253
<v Speaker 10>Yep, definitely. There's lots of commuters even from Danny Urk

0:34:48.093 --> 0:34:54.493
<v Speaker 10>and further Afield commuting daily and vice versa. So like

0:34:54.693 --> 0:34:58.173
<v Speaker 10>the difference it makes from Woodball to Parmestan North nineteen

0:34:58.253 --> 0:34:59.613
<v Speaker 10>minutes it used to be half an hour.

0:35:00.173 --> 0:35:03.933
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, okay, wow wow, yeah, okay, that's something.

0:35:04.213 --> 0:35:08.013
<v Speaker 10>You could guarantee, you know, like and you'd be almost

0:35:08.093 --> 0:35:11.613
<v Speaker 10>guaranteed that the fire sirens would go off and there'd

0:35:11.613 --> 0:35:13.773
<v Speaker 10>be an accident on the set or someone slipped off it,

0:35:14.293 --> 0:35:16.253
<v Speaker 10>so that would hold up hold out your commute time

0:35:16.293 --> 0:35:19.613
<v Speaker 10>as well. So you're coming much safer road.

0:35:19.853 --> 0:35:21.533
<v Speaker 2>Will you go to work? You're going against the flow

0:35:21.613 --> 0:35:22.893
<v Speaker 2>most cars again the other way.

0:35:24.373 --> 0:35:27.493
<v Speaker 10>You are, No, No, it's both ways and you've got

0:35:27.573 --> 0:35:29.053
<v Speaker 10>trucks going both ways all the time.

0:35:29.413 --> 0:35:31.373
<v Speaker 2>So it's busy already. I'm what I'm saying. The road

0:35:31.493 --> 0:35:33.773
<v Speaker 2>is big enough. There's enough lanes of tandling the traffic

0:35:34.773 --> 0:35:35.573
<v Speaker 2>one hundred.

0:35:35.293 --> 0:35:38.493
<v Speaker 10>Percent, and it's it's well, four lanes, two lanes each way,

0:35:39.053 --> 0:35:42.533
<v Speaker 10>no congestion, No one's getting stuck behind slow traffic because

0:35:42.533 --> 0:35:45.333
<v Speaker 10>there's a lane to jump into to overtake and pass them.

0:35:46.213 --> 0:35:48.693
<v Speaker 10>You can get from Ashes to Woodville and what used

0:35:48.733 --> 0:35:53.213
<v Speaker 10>to be twenty minutes fifteen to twenty minutes and under ten,

0:35:53.293 --> 0:35:55.573
<v Speaker 10>well under ten, like six to eight minutes.

0:35:55.613 --> 0:35:59.053
<v Speaker 2>Now we'd stop breaking around. Can your hand? Can you

0:35:59.093 --> 0:36:00.253
<v Speaker 2>all car handle the gradient?

0:36:01.853 --> 0:36:03.533
<v Speaker 10>One hundred percent? Definitely it can.

0:36:03.933 --> 0:36:06.573
<v Speaker 2>Yep, god's ten percent. Someone said they can. Ho was

0:36:06.573 --> 0:36:08.253
<v Speaker 2>a bit gutless on it, but yours is fine.

0:36:08.733 --> 0:36:09.533
<v Speaker 11>Oh well, I.

0:36:09.613 --> 0:36:14.373
<v Speaker 10>Think my mind's fine. And no one looks like they're

0:36:14.413 --> 0:36:15.453
<v Speaker 10>really struggling out there.

0:36:15.893 --> 0:36:18.693
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh god, Oh that's it's been a good week

0:36:18.733 --> 0:36:19.333
<v Speaker 2>for you, then, has it?

0:36:19.453 --> 0:36:19.653
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:36:19.733 --> 0:36:20.133
<v Speaker 2>Brilliant?

0:36:20.613 --> 0:36:23.173
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, yeah, you have, you have to come visit Woodville,

0:36:23.253 --> 0:36:24.613
<v Speaker 10>have a wonderful coffin.

0:36:25.373 --> 0:36:27.213
<v Speaker 2>I will do. Ang'l nice to hear from me. Thank you.

0:36:27.333 --> 0:36:30.213
<v Speaker 2>It's all positive. And she's going against the fly, well

0:36:30.253 --> 0:36:32.773
<v Speaker 2>kind of against the flow. Oh eight, what are her businesses?

0:36:34.173 --> 0:36:39.893
<v Speaker 2>Would be the wind Farm Cafe. That'd be my guess. Okay,

0:36:39.973 --> 0:36:41.573
<v Speaker 2>google episode, because you'd say you have to come and

0:36:41.613 --> 0:36:50.253
<v Speaker 2>have a coffee, didn't you? I wonder, Sean Marcus. Welcome mushrooms.

0:36:51.213 --> 0:36:55.733
<v Speaker 6>Very simple rule. Never eat a mushroom has been growing

0:36:55.893 --> 0:36:59.893
<v Speaker 6>under a tree, and if you can't peel it, it's

0:36:59.973 --> 0:37:03.533
<v Speaker 6>not safe. So that it's got to be dark underside

0:37:03.613 --> 0:37:06.933
<v Speaker 6>and the girl's dark and you can peel it and

0:37:06.973 --> 0:37:12.253
<v Speaker 6>then you're safe. Anything that's white or growing under a tree,

0:37:12.893 --> 0:37:15.853
<v Speaker 6>leave it well alone. White. There's a toadstore.

0:37:17.693 --> 0:37:18.173
<v Speaker 8>It seems.

0:37:18.613 --> 0:37:21.533
<v Speaker 2>It seems, it seems in nature that things that are

0:37:22.733 --> 0:37:25.333
<v Speaker 2>poisonous don't taste that good. Do you know what death

0:37:25.413 --> 0:37:26.173
<v Speaker 2>caps taste like?

0:37:27.853 --> 0:37:27.893
<v Speaker 11>No?

0:37:28.373 --> 0:37:29.053
<v Speaker 6>Never try them?

0:37:29.373 --> 0:37:29.413
<v Speaker 17>No.

0:37:31.333 --> 0:37:35.333
<v Speaker 6>No. But if it's why, don't write gels underneath. Don't

0:37:35.413 --> 0:37:35.733
<v Speaker 6>touch it.

0:37:36.333 --> 0:37:38.493
<v Speaker 2>But I think in this case, Sean, she was deliberately

0:37:38.573 --> 0:37:40.013
<v Speaker 2>trying to poison her family.

0:37:41.133 --> 0:37:43.333
<v Speaker 6>Oh that's a different different.

0:37:43.853 --> 0:37:46.453
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, she's like opposite week for her Sean, but

0:37:46.493 --> 0:37:48.693
<v Speaker 2>thanks for hanging on there. Someone said why would you

0:37:48.773 --> 0:37:52.453
<v Speaker 2>dehydrate the mushrooms? I think because they're probably hard to

0:37:52.493 --> 0:37:54.773
<v Speaker 2>get the right amount. You have to go on a

0:37:54.853 --> 0:37:57.813
<v Speaker 2>few foraging occasions and you dehydrate them, and you'd store

0:37:57.893 --> 0:38:01.213
<v Speaker 2>them to get enough for the beef Wellington because you

0:38:01.253 --> 0:38:02.933
<v Speaker 2>want to be spread right through. I've watched them make

0:38:02.973 --> 0:38:07.693
<v Speaker 2>the beef Wellington watching last night with Old Gordon Ramjet's recipe.

0:38:07.733 --> 0:38:11.173
<v Speaker 2>You've got proshutto and you've got meat and then you've

0:38:11.253 --> 0:38:13.893
<v Speaker 2>got pancakes. It's a complicated kind of thing in pastry.

0:38:14.293 --> 0:38:16.613
<v Speaker 2>But there's a lot of different mushrooms you put in there.

0:38:18.053 --> 0:38:19.653
<v Speaker 2>We want to get all spread around, so who everyone

0:38:19.733 --> 0:38:25.373
<v Speaker 2>get to bits if you're trying to kill them. If

0:38:25.413 --> 0:38:26.933
<v Speaker 2>the new road is not going to be told, does

0:38:26.973 --> 0:38:29.333
<v Speaker 2>that mean motris? The locals should expect the new future

0:38:29.853 --> 0:38:32.013
<v Speaker 2>the near future. The sudden appearance of point to point

0:38:32.053 --> 0:38:33.333
<v Speaker 2>cameras at either end.

0:38:37.853 --> 0:38:38.053
<v Speaker 13>Mark.

0:38:38.173 --> 0:38:40.173
<v Speaker 2>Is The danger with all this talk and exposing to

0:38:40.253 --> 0:38:42.733
<v Speaker 2>what happened with the mushroom instant is it gives wayward

0:38:42.813 --> 0:38:45.093
<v Speaker 2>thinking people all sorts of ideas insights into doing a

0:38:45.133 --> 0:38:49.093
<v Speaker 2>copycat crime themselves. Wow, that's a good point. But they've

0:38:49.133 --> 0:38:52.533
<v Speaker 2>got the Internet anyway, which is free range for those

0:38:52.653 --> 0:38:57.213
<v Speaker 2>kind of crazies. Would I go to some random, random

0:38:57.253 --> 0:39:01.693
<v Speaker 2>person's place they have beef Wellington, I'll check in the

0:39:01.733 --> 0:39:04.013
<v Speaker 2>cupboard first to say that a d hydrateer. Do we

0:39:04.133 --> 0:39:05.853
<v Speaker 2>have death caps and news in and I don't know?

0:39:07.693 --> 0:39:11.453
<v Speaker 2>Some say yes, some say no. I don't know. Marcus

0:39:11.493 --> 0:39:12.853
<v Speaker 2>good to be the city. I've got a power cut,

0:39:12.893 --> 0:39:15.373
<v Speaker 2>so went off the radio. Over to the radio for

0:39:15.413 --> 0:39:18.893
<v Speaker 2>a change. One of my favorite things about Brian Wilson

0:39:19.013 --> 0:39:23.453
<v Speaker 2>was his daughters Karney and Wendy joining with China Phillips,

0:39:23.533 --> 0:39:25.213
<v Speaker 2>daughter of John Michelle Pillips or the Mums and the

0:39:25.253 --> 0:39:29.733
<v Speaker 2>pupa is to make Wilson Phillips. That's right. I was

0:39:29.773 --> 0:39:31.413
<v Speaker 2>quite a fan of Wilson Phillips on the day with

0:39:31.533 --> 0:39:34.773
<v Speaker 2>hold On, hold On for all One? I forgot about that.

0:39:36.573 --> 0:39:40.573
<v Speaker 2>What movie was that used in Bridesmaids or something? They

0:39:40.693 --> 0:39:43.293
<v Speaker 2>used that big? Did they just a bit more information

0:39:43.373 --> 0:39:46.373
<v Speaker 2>on this Air India flight according to who was that

0:39:46.533 --> 0:39:50.373
<v Speaker 2>dan that you said? The last one according to know

0:39:50.453 --> 0:39:52.013
<v Speaker 2>the one about the situation that hadn't landed at the

0:39:52.053 --> 0:39:59.933
<v Speaker 2>airport landed beyond the perimeter. According to the Indian Aviation Regulator,

0:40:00.013 --> 0:40:04.893
<v Speaker 2>the airplane has landed beyond the perimeter of the airport

0:40:05.453 --> 0:40:08.053
<v Speaker 2>in a civilian area, which probably I would imagine will

0:40:08.093 --> 0:40:12.093
<v Speaker 2>be adding to casualties. It was a seven eight to

0:40:12.173 --> 0:40:16.813
<v Speaker 2>seven h eight Dreamliner and the air planes that have

0:40:16.933 --> 0:40:21.813
<v Speaker 2>been in service for thirteen years and they have carried

0:40:21.813 --> 0:40:25.213
<v Speaker 2>over one billion passengers and there has not been any

0:40:25.293 --> 0:40:27.933
<v Speaker 2>extents that result in a loss of aircraft or fatality,

0:40:28.053 --> 0:40:31.053
<v Speaker 2>so they have had a perfect safety record until now.

0:40:31.213 --> 0:40:33.653
<v Speaker 2>So just confirming over two undred people on that flight.

0:40:34.293 --> 0:40:38.453
<v Speaker 2>And there's not much footage yet of the fuselage, but

0:40:38.493 --> 0:40:41.653
<v Speaker 2>there's still footage of the fireball and the smoke and

0:40:41.653 --> 0:40:45.253
<v Speaker 2>it appears as though it's accident. They'd be free, very

0:40:45.333 --> 0:40:50.413
<v Speaker 2>lucky to survive. There was a flight from a Metabad

0:40:50.493 --> 0:40:55.813
<v Speaker 2>to Gatwick in London that just happened about probably one

0:40:55.853 --> 0:40:57.533
<v Speaker 2>hour ago. I'll bring you more details when i've got

0:40:57.573 --> 0:40:59.493
<v Speaker 2>those people. So if you've got more informational to do,

0:40:59.653 --> 0:41:02.413
<v Speaker 2>let me know. So, yes, that's the situation there. I

0:41:02.453 --> 0:41:07.373
<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's surprising, it's not surprising, but there's been

0:41:07.453 --> 0:41:10.813
<v Speaker 2>no footage or shots of the impact zone. I don't

0:41:10.813 --> 0:41:13.253
<v Speaker 2>know if it's built up residentially. Requite what's happening there,

0:41:13.933 --> 0:41:17.333
<v Speaker 2>Garyet's Marcus. Good evening and welcome, Good.

0:41:17.253 --> 0:41:18.933
<v Speaker 18>Evening, Marcus. How are you you good?

0:41:19.013 --> 0:41:21.573
<v Speaker 7>Gary Good? Yeah.

0:41:22.333 --> 0:41:26.053
<v Speaker 18>Nineteen ninety nine, I went and saw the Beach Boys

0:41:26.093 --> 0:41:32.253
<v Speaker 18>at Melbrook and Okay, really really really quite disappointed Brian

0:41:32.493 --> 0:41:37.053
<v Speaker 18>Wilson didn't come on stage. I mean they didn't tell

0:41:37.133 --> 0:41:41.093
<v Speaker 18>us before. And Mike Love, one of the members that

0:41:41.293 --> 0:41:45.213
<v Speaker 18>he carried the whole vocal work, the whole the whole day.

0:41:45.373 --> 0:41:47.013
<v Speaker 18>You know, he did a damn good job of it.

0:41:47.213 --> 0:41:51.733
<v Speaker 18>But it was that I was reading that he was

0:41:52.013 --> 0:41:54.933
<v Speaker 18>very erratic with us when he turned up for concerts,

0:41:54.973 --> 0:41:56.813
<v Speaker 18>and that he was often not well you know.

0:41:57.733 --> 0:41:59.773
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and seems to have kind of founded up around

0:41:59.773 --> 0:42:02.013
<v Speaker 2>the world the best intentions, but sometimes it might just

0:42:02.093 --> 0:42:03.733
<v Speaker 2>have been too much from other sounds of things.

0:42:04.853 --> 0:42:06.933
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, I think so. Yeah, But it was a good

0:42:06.973 --> 0:42:10.493
<v Speaker 18>show outside at Milburk, and Mike Love did a pretty

0:42:10.493 --> 0:42:10.933
<v Speaker 18>good job.

0:42:11.733 --> 0:42:13.693
<v Speaker 2>Were you like a super fan, Gary, because I know

0:42:13.813 --> 0:42:16.893
<v Speaker 2>some people the Beach Boys about Brian Wilson, people just

0:42:17.053 --> 0:42:18.093
<v Speaker 2>adore his music.

0:42:19.093 --> 0:42:22.573
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, well, growing up at my age now, and you know,

0:42:22.853 --> 0:42:25.893
<v Speaker 18>they were big and they you know, they you know,

0:42:26.813 --> 0:42:30.253
<v Speaker 18>they were party songs, you know, and they to give

0:42:30.333 --> 0:42:32.933
<v Speaker 18>us songs, and you know, they were quite quite good

0:42:33.053 --> 0:42:37.133
<v Speaker 18>songs for all sorts of occasions. But yeah, they didn't

0:42:37.253 --> 0:42:41.053
<v Speaker 18>you know, you know, I can't remember so long ago,

0:42:41.733 --> 0:42:48.853
<v Speaker 18>but you know, I was disappointed that that Wilson wasn't

0:42:50.133 --> 0:42:53.333
<v Speaker 18>on stage and he must have been croc or something.

0:42:53.453 --> 0:42:57.133
<v Speaker 18>But I was just reading earlier today that he had

0:42:57.133 --> 0:43:01.173
<v Speaker 18>a lot of ups and downs with his other reasons why.

0:43:01.613 --> 0:43:04.373
<v Speaker 2>He got for good age though, which I was pleased

0:43:04.413 --> 0:43:05.293
<v Speaker 2>to see he did.

0:43:05.413 --> 0:43:09.173
<v Speaker 18>He did well well because he had a pretty they

0:43:09.173 --> 0:43:13.613
<v Speaker 18>had drug habit for quite a while too, but yeah, yeah,

0:43:13.733 --> 0:43:17.133
<v Speaker 18>he yeah, but my glove. He was a big, tall

0:43:17.213 --> 0:43:20.533
<v Speaker 18>guy and he wore a cap and he carried the

0:43:20.613 --> 0:43:22.933
<v Speaker 18>whole show basically, and he did a hell of a

0:43:23.013 --> 0:43:26.133
<v Speaker 18>good job, you know. But no, that was Melbourne nineteen

0:43:26.253 --> 0:43:26.773
<v Speaker 18>ninety nine.

0:43:26.773 --> 0:43:29.053
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize they were concerts at Millbrook. Did they

0:43:29.093 --> 0:43:30.973
<v Speaker 2>have them there? And amongst the golf course?

0:43:32.413 --> 0:43:37.053
<v Speaker 18>Yes, yes, yes, on the flat yes yes, because it

0:43:37.253 --> 0:43:40.253
<v Speaker 18>wasn't until they went out the road to that ran.

0:43:41.573 --> 0:43:41.773
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:43:42.053 --> 0:43:45.733
<v Speaker 18>Yeah, this was way before it. This was way before

0:43:45.813 --> 0:43:49.453
<v Speaker 18>they found that nice location. But this was all on

0:43:49.573 --> 0:43:53.573
<v Speaker 18>the flat and yeah, they were there and they had

0:43:53.693 --> 0:43:58.253
<v Speaker 18>they had you go. Yeah, they had the sounds, you know,

0:43:58.573 --> 0:44:01.733
<v Speaker 18>that's what we went for. But it was a bit

0:44:01.813 --> 0:44:03.133
<v Speaker 18>disappointing he wasn't there.

0:44:03.213 --> 0:44:05.773
<v Speaker 2>But did they they acknowledge that.

0:44:07.573 --> 0:44:10.173
<v Speaker 18>No, no, they never even told us before the show

0:44:10.333 --> 0:44:10.813
<v Speaker 18>or anything.

0:44:11.053 --> 0:44:11.093
<v Speaker 11>No.

0:44:11.853 --> 0:44:14.933
<v Speaker 18>No, the show just fired up and they were all

0:44:15.013 --> 0:44:17.493
<v Speaker 18>there and they had the organ sound that they had.

0:44:17.573 --> 0:44:21.573
<v Speaker 18>The sound was perfect, but they just didn't have them,

0:44:21.733 --> 0:44:21.893
<v Speaker 18>you know.

0:44:22.293 --> 0:44:22.453
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:44:23.013 --> 0:44:25.053
<v Speaker 2>Okay, oh, nice to hear from anyway. Gary, that's a

0:44:25.093 --> 0:44:31.293
<v Speaker 2>nice change of tune. Patricia, it's Marcus. Welcome, good evening, Good.

0:44:31.173 --> 0:44:35.293
<v Speaker 11>Evening, Marcus by Patricia. Lovely to have you back.

0:44:35.653 --> 0:44:35.933
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:44:36.333 --> 0:44:40.173
<v Speaker 11>Well, I'd like to talk about the mushroom case. I've

0:44:40.213 --> 0:44:46.013
<v Speaker 11>been following it from Australia. So the latest I've heard

0:44:46.453 --> 0:44:51.253
<v Speaker 11>was you probably know everything that's been going on already,

0:44:51.413 --> 0:44:56.293
<v Speaker 11>but they increased the jury to fourteen usually twelve, but

0:44:56.453 --> 0:45:01.613
<v Speaker 11>they've increased it by another two and probably the case

0:45:01.693 --> 0:45:05.453
<v Speaker 11>will go on for another six days. But getting down

0:45:05.533 --> 0:45:09.733
<v Speaker 11>to the probably the information that I'm going to tell

0:45:09.813 --> 0:45:13.813
<v Speaker 11>you is probably from the poor relative from the hospital.

0:45:14.653 --> 0:45:22.013
<v Speaker 11>Well this was what they said that with the mushroom soup.

0:45:22.853 --> 0:45:27.533
<v Speaker 11>She had an orange bowl. All the in laws had

0:45:27.653 --> 0:45:32.093
<v Speaker 11>gray bowls. They suggested to her that she had the

0:45:32.773 --> 0:45:36.093
<v Speaker 11>orange bowl for herself so it couldn't be mixed up

0:45:36.173 --> 0:45:40.973
<v Speaker 11>with the gray bowls with the poison, so she couldn't answer.

0:45:41.893 --> 0:45:45.013
<v Speaker 11>She said she wasn't even aware of the bowls being

0:45:45.093 --> 0:45:50.413
<v Speaker 11>different colors. So that's all my import from everything going

0:45:50.533 --> 0:45:52.213
<v Speaker 11>on here, Patricia.

0:45:52.253 --> 0:45:55.573
<v Speaker 2>Did they talk about Did she talk about why she'd

0:45:55.653 --> 0:45:57.013
<v Speaker 2>thrown away the dehydrator?

0:45:58.533 --> 0:46:02.013
<v Speaker 18>No, I didn't hear that, Okay, I just.

0:46:02.093 --> 0:46:05.133
<v Speaker 11>Thought i'd bring you up to the different colors. She

0:46:05.253 --> 0:46:11.373
<v Speaker 11>had bowl being orange and the in laws bowls were gray,

0:46:12.053 --> 0:46:15.213
<v Speaker 11>and she said she wasn't even aware she had different

0:46:15.293 --> 0:46:20.493
<v Speaker 11>colored bowls. She couldn't really answer anyway.

0:46:22.013 --> 0:46:23.733
<v Speaker 2>You wonder if how they managed to find it to

0:46:23.773 --> 0:46:25.853
<v Speaker 2>be fit to trial too, because it seems to be

0:46:25.973 --> 0:46:29.893
<v Speaker 2>a bizarre and of real unwealthy to want to carry out.

0:46:29.933 --> 0:46:31.413
<v Speaker 2>But oh well, that's justice for you.

0:46:31.493 --> 0:46:37.653
<v Speaker 11>I suppose her estranged husband she invited too, but he refused,

0:46:37.733 --> 0:46:42.733
<v Speaker 11>so he's very lucky. He's so lucky now that he

0:46:42.933 --> 0:46:43.573
<v Speaker 11>did not go.

0:46:45.013 --> 0:46:47.453
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess, Patricia, I guess probably one of the

0:46:47.493 --> 0:46:49.733
<v Speaker 2>reasons they haven't taken such a real I've been kind

0:46:49.773 --> 0:46:51.573
<v Speaker 2>of interested, but I've found a lot of the details

0:46:51.653 --> 0:46:54.813
<v Speaker 2>quite confusing. But just because you know what it's like,

0:46:55.053 --> 0:46:56.973
<v Speaker 2>you don't get the whole summing up of the case.

0:46:57.133 --> 0:46:58.933
<v Speaker 2>But I also believe there'll be a movie of it soon,

0:46:58.973 --> 0:47:05.173
<v Speaker 2>which will be compelling, be a great movie. Evening David's

0:47:05.213 --> 0:47:06.413
<v Speaker 2>Marcus Welcome.

0:47:07.093 --> 0:47:09.453
<v Speaker 12>Had it on. Hey, I can probably answer some of

0:47:09.493 --> 0:47:12.493
<v Speaker 12>those questions about what was missing in that last.

0:47:12.373 --> 0:47:15.533
<v Speaker 2>Call of details you've been following yet.

0:47:16.493 --> 0:47:19.733
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, So I mean it's a pretty strong circumstantial case

0:47:19.773 --> 0:47:24.813
<v Speaker 12>against her. Yeah, And so her whole argument of why

0:47:24.933 --> 0:47:27.733
<v Speaker 12>she got rid of the dehydrator was because the ex

0:47:27.853 --> 0:47:30.533
<v Speaker 12>husband or they're still married, as I understand it, told

0:47:30.573 --> 0:47:33.773
<v Speaker 12>her at the hospital is that how you poisoned my parents.

0:47:34.053 --> 0:47:37.453
<v Speaker 12>So therefore she freaked and then got rid of it

0:47:37.533 --> 0:47:41.573
<v Speaker 12>the next day at the rubbish tip, which was, of course,

0:47:41.653 --> 0:47:44.373
<v Speaker 12>after the doctors had already told her that they suspected

0:47:45.053 --> 0:47:45.933
<v Speaker 12>mushroom poisoning.

0:47:46.773 --> 0:47:47.693
<v Speaker 7>So there's a.

0:47:47.693 --> 0:47:50.533
<v Speaker 12>Whole lot of things in there that are very very strong,

0:47:50.653 --> 0:47:51.773
<v Speaker 12>circumstantially against it.

0:47:52.013 --> 0:47:52.213
<v Speaker 8>Dave.

0:47:52.333 --> 0:47:53.973
<v Speaker 2>Was it hard for her to get the mushrooms? Were

0:47:53.973 --> 0:47:55.293
<v Speaker 2>they quite hard to find?

0:47:56.693 --> 0:47:58.813
<v Speaker 12>I can only tell you what I've what I've read,

0:47:59.133 --> 0:48:08.413
<v Speaker 12>and so she randomly joined or a website called Eynaturist

0:48:08.493 --> 0:48:11.533
<v Speaker 12>where they would report the location of these these mushrooms.

0:48:12.093 --> 0:48:15.373
<v Speaker 12>And so you know, she's got to explain why she

0:48:15.413 --> 0:48:18.533
<v Speaker 12>would go to that site, where she pretty much can't.

0:48:18.573 --> 0:48:23.053
<v Speaker 12>She says she foraged for mushrooms. Later she told everyone

0:48:23.093 --> 0:48:26.293
<v Speaker 12>initially she didn't. You know that it's very seldom in

0:48:26.853 --> 0:48:28.853
<v Speaker 12>a murder case that there's a smoking gun. It's always,

0:48:28.933 --> 0:48:31.213
<v Speaker 12>you know, all the strands of evidence that combined together,

0:48:31.813 --> 0:48:35.213
<v Speaker 12>you know, to convict, which there's a very very strong

0:48:35.293 --> 0:48:39.013
<v Speaker 12>circumstantial case against her. But he next stage, as I understand,

0:48:39.013 --> 0:48:41.573
<v Speaker 12>it will be the defenses chance to put forward their case.

0:48:42.053 --> 0:48:45.293
<v Speaker 12>You know, they may very well have some some witnesses,

0:48:45.373 --> 0:48:49.893
<v Speaker 12>but at this stage it does look like from the

0:48:49.933 --> 0:48:53.533
<v Speaker 12>circumstantial evidence, you know, she probably did do it. It

0:48:56.093 --> 0:48:58.093
<v Speaker 12>was one of those things there.

0:48:57.933 --> 0:49:00.253
<v Speaker 2>Dave, was there a compelling I can't quite work out

0:49:00.293 --> 0:49:00.733
<v Speaker 2>the motive?

0:49:03.733 --> 0:49:08.093
<v Speaker 12>Well on Facebook and whatnot. Of friends, she'd if the

0:49:08.573 --> 0:49:11.573
<v Speaker 12>Iffing family was to that effect, because they wouldn't get

0:49:11.613 --> 0:49:14.613
<v Speaker 12>involved in you in the child support.

0:49:15.293 --> 0:49:18.013
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that was about okay, okay, so it's about child

0:49:18.093 --> 0:49:18.653
<v Speaker 2>She tried.

0:49:18.493 --> 0:49:20.853
<v Speaker 12>To him to come. She tried to get the husband

0:49:20.933 --> 0:49:24.053
<v Speaker 12>to come. Okay, so you know she probably wanted if

0:49:24.093 --> 0:49:25.853
<v Speaker 12>she did do it, because remember, you know, the only

0:49:25.893 --> 0:49:28.613
<v Speaker 12>one that really knows is her. You know, she wanted

0:49:28.653 --> 0:49:30.933
<v Speaker 12>to take them all out and were the children.

0:49:31.213 --> 0:49:32.853
<v Speaker 2>Were the children themselves at that meal?

0:49:34.013 --> 0:49:36.493
<v Speaker 12>No, she sent them away on that day randomly. And

0:49:36.813 --> 0:49:40.053
<v Speaker 12>you know, so the item that she built that she

0:49:40.173 --> 0:49:41.893
<v Speaker 12>made from the recipe was supposed to be a lock

0:49:42.053 --> 0:49:45.293
<v Speaker 12>ie one piece, but she made them as individual pieces,

0:49:45.493 --> 0:49:48.373
<v Speaker 12>including an extra and in case, you know, the husband came.

0:49:48.773 --> 0:49:51.653
<v Speaker 12>And so you know, you got to ask yourself why

0:49:52.093 --> 0:49:54.293
<v Speaker 12>she didn't get sick if she ate the same meal.

0:49:54.773 --> 0:49:57.613
<v Speaker 12>She says that she had diarrhea. They see her going

0:49:57.653 --> 0:50:00.173
<v Speaker 12>to a toilet for eight seconds and come out says

0:50:00.213 --> 0:50:01.733
<v Speaker 12>that she had to relieve herself on the side of

0:50:01.773 --> 0:50:05.573
<v Speaker 12>the motorway the next day while or road while driving

0:50:05.613 --> 0:50:08.253
<v Speaker 12>her sudden to flying less and he doesn't recall it.

0:50:08.733 --> 0:50:10.813
<v Speaker 12>You know, it's not the kind of thing you'd forget, right,

0:50:11.053 --> 0:50:14.253
<v Speaker 12>So driving along, Mum or Dad needs to pull over

0:50:14.333 --> 0:50:18.173
<v Speaker 12>because they have to quote relieve themselves. And we're not talking,

0:50:18.373 --> 0:50:21.413
<v Speaker 12>you know, we's here, we're talking. You know something else,

0:50:21.973 --> 0:50:23.173
<v Speaker 12>So you know.

0:50:23.493 --> 0:50:25.013
<v Speaker 7>It's it's it's high.

0:50:25.093 --> 0:50:28.653
<v Speaker 12>And the other, which is she's got an answer for everything,

0:50:28.693 --> 0:50:34.253
<v Speaker 12>this lady, and you know, and one be careful what

0:50:34.333 --> 0:50:34.733
<v Speaker 12>to say.

0:50:34.613 --> 0:50:37.053
<v Speaker 2>But it's best villains do. But yeah, well I think

0:50:37.093 --> 0:50:39.053
<v Speaker 2>we're right under under subject to say because we're in

0:50:39.053 --> 0:50:41.413
<v Speaker 2>New Zealand station, we're broadcasting in New Zealand, so yeah,

0:50:41.413 --> 0:50:42.853
<v Speaker 2>we're not influenced the jury.

0:50:43.453 --> 0:50:43.653
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:50:44.013 --> 0:50:47.573
<v Speaker 12>So the one is that she know she got rid

0:50:47.573 --> 0:50:52.213
<v Speaker 12>of her phone. Well there was two phones. The cops

0:50:52.253 --> 0:50:54.413
<v Speaker 12>found one when they searched her house and she reset

0:50:54.453 --> 0:50:58.253
<v Speaker 12>them remotely and they still haven't found the second one,

0:50:58.693 --> 0:51:01.613
<v Speaker 12>you know. And so she also said that she went

0:51:01.613 --> 0:51:04.053
<v Speaker 12>to an Asian grosser to get his mushrooms, et cetera.

0:51:04.493 --> 0:51:06.773
<v Speaker 12>She came up with, you know, quite a number of stories.

0:51:07.253 --> 0:51:10.853
<v Speaker 12>Didn't want to I didn't want to take the I

0:51:10.933 --> 0:51:12.853
<v Speaker 12>don't think that's a big deal about not wanting to

0:51:12.893 --> 0:51:15.413
<v Speaker 12>take the kids to the hospital, because if they don't

0:51:15.453 --> 0:51:17.293
<v Speaker 12>have symptoms, then you know, why would you take them

0:51:17.333 --> 0:51:20.253
<v Speaker 12>to the hospital. But the real question is you know

0:51:20.333 --> 0:51:22.933
<v Speaker 12>that that that poison is obviously pretty potent. You know,

0:51:23.173 --> 0:51:26.053
<v Speaker 12>the guy survived took months before he came right, So

0:51:26.333 --> 0:51:28.893
<v Speaker 12>if she had even a small portion of it. She

0:51:28.933 --> 0:51:31.213
<v Speaker 12>would have had more than just you know, a mild diarrhea.

0:51:31.773 --> 0:51:33.693
<v Speaker 12>If she would have, she would have been in trouble.

0:51:33.853 --> 0:51:36.813
<v Speaker 2>And so was this something, David, Her going for a

0:51:36.853 --> 0:51:37.773
<v Speaker 2>gastric surgery?

0:51:37.973 --> 0:51:38.053
<v Speaker 16>Was it?

0:51:38.253 --> 0:51:39.733
<v Speaker 2>Did you follow that part of the evidence.

0:51:40.573 --> 0:51:40.733
<v Speaker 13>Yep.

0:51:40.813 --> 0:51:44.893
<v Speaker 12>So what she said was was that she she lied

0:51:44.933 --> 0:51:49.813
<v Speaker 12>about She's admitted to lying or implying that she led

0:51:49.853 --> 0:51:51.533
<v Speaker 12>them on that she had cancer, which she didn't have.

0:51:52.493 --> 0:51:56.173
<v Speaker 12>And so she said that she had a medical procedure

0:51:56.373 --> 0:52:01.573
<v Speaker 12>at some some you know, private hospital or whatever coming up,

0:52:02.133 --> 0:52:05.013
<v Speaker 12>and that was going to be gastric bypass surgery. However

0:52:05.093 --> 0:52:07.133
<v Speaker 12>that hospital doesn't do it. So she's like, well, I

0:52:07.213 --> 0:52:09.013
<v Speaker 12>don't know that, you know, I was going to go

0:52:09.093 --> 0:52:11.973
<v Speaker 12>for life per suction. So there's i mean, you know,

0:52:12.693 --> 0:52:14.293
<v Speaker 12>one or two of them on their own. But yeah,

0:52:14.413 --> 0:52:16.933
<v Speaker 12>there's thirty or forty things that she's got to explain,

0:52:17.253 --> 0:52:21.733
<v Speaker 12>and you know they the far simpler explanation is that

0:52:22.733 --> 0:52:24.013
<v Speaker 12>is that she did it. And if she didn't do it,

0:52:24.133 --> 0:52:27.213
<v Speaker 12>if she's innocent, she's bloody unlucky, and she's bloody stupid

0:52:27.453 --> 0:52:29.453
<v Speaker 12>because she made herself look guilty as hell.

0:52:30.253 --> 0:52:31.613
<v Speaker 2>Love to hear from me, Dave, thank you so much.

0:52:31.653 --> 0:52:32.813
<v Speaker 2>Full it's Marcus. Welcome.

0:52:33.813 --> 0:52:37.853
<v Speaker 12>Hey Marcus, there's quite a few details about the place

0:52:37.973 --> 0:52:43.533
<v Speaker 12>that to us, it just seems like such a couple

0:52:43.533 --> 0:52:47.893
<v Speaker 12>of idiot moves from from the defendant. I mean, clearly,

0:52:47.973 --> 0:52:55.733
<v Speaker 12>I think she is but daft, but she clearly wasn't

0:52:55.773 --> 0:52:58.613
<v Speaker 12>expecting there to be any witnesses the next day or

0:52:58.653 --> 0:53:00.013
<v Speaker 12>the next week. You know some of the things that

0:53:00.093 --> 0:53:01.813
<v Speaker 12>the different color polls, and it's.

0:53:01.653 --> 0:53:04.933
<v Speaker 2>A very everyone was everyone was supposed to die.

0:53:06.133 --> 0:53:08.373
<v Speaker 12>Yeah, yeah, I think things like the different color bawls

0:53:08.413 --> 0:53:10.493
<v Speaker 12>and things people like we'd be saying, oh, why should

0:53:10.493 --> 0:53:14.333
<v Speaker 12>do that? But she didn't expect that there'd be anybody

0:53:14.493 --> 0:53:18.373
<v Speaker 12>to to, you know. She she thought that maybe the

0:53:18.453 --> 0:53:20.013
<v Speaker 12>next week she could say, oh, I know all the

0:53:20.093 --> 0:53:21.973
<v Speaker 12>bowls were the same, and this week, you know, she

0:53:22.053 --> 0:53:22.413
<v Speaker 12>didn't know.

0:53:23.293 --> 0:53:23.493
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

0:53:23.533 --> 0:53:26.053
<v Speaker 12>And also it's I think it kind of seems to

0:53:26.293 --> 0:53:29.973
<v Speaker 12>like even if her kids are are not prepared to life,

0:53:30.053 --> 0:53:35.653
<v Speaker 12>where because their testimony has been very unhelpful, as it seems.

0:53:36.053 --> 0:53:37.293
<v Speaker 2>Are the children with the father.

0:53:38.573 --> 0:53:39.253
<v Speaker 12>I'm not sure?

0:53:39.733 --> 0:53:44.693
<v Speaker 2>Okay, because you also you also wonder why that why

0:53:44.853 --> 0:53:47.853
<v Speaker 2>her advisors didn't because it sounds like it sounds like

0:53:47.933 --> 0:53:49.333
<v Speaker 2>she's unwell, doesn't it to want to do that. I

0:53:49.333 --> 0:53:51.293
<v Speaker 2>mean it sounds like you'd almost have some sort of

0:53:52.893 --> 0:53:53.933
<v Speaker 2>defense of insanity.

0:53:56.533 --> 0:53:58.213
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think.

0:53:58.733 --> 0:54:00.933
<v Speaker 12>I mean, if stupidity was was a defense, I think

0:54:01.013 --> 0:54:01.973
<v Speaker 12>should be well advised.

0:54:02.053 --> 0:54:04.133
<v Speaker 2>Or she could. But but but as you say, Phil,

0:54:04.173 --> 0:54:05.373
<v Speaker 2>she could have got away with it cold if she

0:54:05.493 --> 0:54:07.413
<v Speaker 2>If they'd all died.

0:54:10.493 --> 0:54:12.893
<v Speaker 12>Quite well, quite possibly, it would have been much harder

0:54:13.013 --> 0:54:18.413
<v Speaker 12>for her to much harder for the prosecution there would you, like, say,

0:54:18.453 --> 0:54:21.373
<v Speaker 12>no witnesses too. She could she could have made up

0:54:21.413 --> 0:54:23.733
<v Speaker 12>any any number of events and they it would have

0:54:23.773 --> 0:54:24.733
<v Speaker 12>been very difficult to.

0:54:26.933 --> 0:54:28.013
<v Speaker 7>To crew her wrong.

0:54:28.413 --> 0:54:30.413
<v Speaker 2>Although it's very clear that it was deathcat mushrooms that

0:54:30.533 --> 0:54:32.173
<v Speaker 2>killed them. I mean, that's that's the thing. I mean,

0:54:32.813 --> 0:54:34.573
<v Speaker 2>the cause of death is quite straightforward. It's just how

0:54:34.613 --> 0:54:35.133
<v Speaker 2>they got there.

0:54:35.973 --> 0:54:40.253
<v Speaker 12>There's the string of circumstantial evidence that is only it

0:54:40.373 --> 0:54:43.213
<v Speaker 12>was only made available because the witnesses lived to tell

0:54:43.253 --> 0:54:43.653
<v Speaker 12>a story.

0:54:44.213 --> 0:54:45.533
<v Speaker 2>And there was just one witness that lived.

0:54:45.613 --> 0:54:45.893
<v Speaker 8>Is that right?

0:54:45.933 --> 0:54:46.373
<v Speaker 9>There was just the.

0:54:49.173 --> 0:54:51.293
<v Speaker 12>Or some I think some of them lived. Yeah, yeah,

0:54:51.293 --> 0:54:53.013
<v Speaker 12>I'm not sure anyway, that's me.

0:54:53.653 --> 0:54:56.933
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, God, thank you, far I do appreciate it. Here

0:54:57.053 --> 0:54:59.213
<v Speaker 2>till midnight, we're talking about Brian Wilson. We're talking about

0:54:59.213 --> 0:55:01.853
<v Speaker 2>also the mushroom case in Australia, which is fascinating. I

0:55:01.933 --> 0:55:05.493
<v Speaker 2>don't quite know why I felt it quite it was

0:55:05.573 --> 0:55:07.893
<v Speaker 2>quite long winded to try and kind of get across

0:55:07.973 --> 0:55:10.533
<v Speaker 2>what was happening. You really needed to kind of commit

0:55:10.613 --> 0:55:12.453
<v Speaker 2>to following the trial to follow it. So I've been

0:55:12.533 --> 0:55:15.253
<v Speaker 2>really grateful for the people who have come through with

0:55:15.333 --> 0:55:18.133
<v Speaker 2>the reports. This text has said too, which is quite

0:55:18.133 --> 0:55:21.053
<v Speaker 2>good background the Pattersons, the in laws didn't want to

0:55:21.053 --> 0:55:24.293
<v Speaker 2>get in between Erin's relationship issues with their son, so

0:55:24.533 --> 0:55:27.653
<v Speaker 2>Aaron said she had cancer and invited them around Inclin

0:55:27.733 --> 0:55:30.973
<v Speaker 2>the next husband for discussing on ideas on how to

0:55:31.093 --> 0:55:36.173
<v Speaker 2>inform the children. That's why the children went there. Apparently

0:55:36.213 --> 0:55:38.853
<v Speaker 2>her exton trust her with food as had a problem before,

0:55:39.333 --> 0:55:41.853
<v Speaker 2>so didn't go at the last minute. Had she tried

0:55:41.893 --> 0:55:45.413
<v Speaker 2>to poison him before? Do I remember that? Going on?

0:55:46.413 --> 0:55:48.293
<v Speaker 2>That's what we are discussing, looking forward to what you've

0:55:48.293 --> 0:55:52.053
<v Speaker 2>got to say. Seven past ten more, it's Marcus, Welcome.

0:55:53.093 --> 0:55:56.853
<v Speaker 9>Hi Marcus. I've got some more information on the mushroom courts.

0:55:58.493 --> 0:56:02.653
<v Speaker 9>Only one is still alive and he's been sitting in

0:56:02.933 --> 0:56:08.573
<v Speaker 9>on all the court cases every day. She did apparently

0:56:08.653 --> 0:56:12.253
<v Speaker 9>try and poison someone once before, but of course they're

0:56:12.293 --> 0:56:17.253
<v Speaker 9>not able to mention that now for this case, the

0:56:17.373 --> 0:56:22.813
<v Speaker 9>hospital wrung her and said to her that she should

0:56:22.893 --> 0:56:25.493
<v Speaker 9>come in because the others had been admitted and were

0:56:25.573 --> 0:56:29.173
<v Speaker 9>seriously ill and they were really concerned about her. So

0:56:29.373 --> 0:56:33.973
<v Speaker 9>she went into hospital and then after ten minutes discharged herself.

0:56:34.013 --> 0:56:36.533
<v Speaker 9>And that was when she went and panicked and got

0:56:36.653 --> 0:56:41.373
<v Speaker 9>rid of the d hydrator, and then she went back

0:56:41.453 --> 0:56:44.173
<v Speaker 9>into hospital because she was a bit concerned. I think

0:56:44.253 --> 0:56:48.373
<v Speaker 9>that was the following day, and they were monitoring her

0:56:48.893 --> 0:56:53.853
<v Speaker 9>bowel movements in the hospital and she was she had

0:56:54.453 --> 0:57:00.093
<v Speaker 9>like quite severe diarrhea. Then she's admitted to having a us.

0:57:00.173 --> 0:57:01.853
<v Speaker 2>Listening yes, yes, yes.

0:57:02.013 --> 0:57:07.213
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, yes, oh yeah. She's admitted to have an

0:57:07.253 --> 0:57:11.733
<v Speaker 9>eating disword. At most of her life she was a binger,

0:57:12.053 --> 0:57:16.693
<v Speaker 9>so she ate, you know, couldn't help eating lots of food.

0:57:17.773 --> 0:57:20.733
<v Speaker 9>So I found it quite interesting that at the meal

0:57:20.853 --> 0:57:25.013
<v Speaker 9>itself she only ate one third of the beef Wellington.

0:57:25.653 --> 0:57:30.013
<v Speaker 9>She didn't eat the whole lot where the others, yeah,

0:57:31.173 --> 0:57:34.693
<v Speaker 9>we're eating at all. She left a plate for the

0:57:34.893 --> 0:57:39.533
<v Speaker 9>husband in case he turned up, and the next day

0:57:40.973 --> 0:57:44.373
<v Speaker 9>she actually gave it to the kids, but she took

0:57:44.453 --> 0:57:47.453
<v Speaker 9>out the mushrooms and the pastry because they didn't like

0:57:47.573 --> 0:57:50.413
<v Speaker 9>mushrooms or pastry, So.

0:57:52.173 --> 0:57:53.653
<v Speaker 7>Gosh, she didn't.

0:57:53.813 --> 0:58:00.453
<v Speaker 9>She didn't. It wasn't typical for her to have dinners

0:58:00.773 --> 0:58:03.453
<v Speaker 9>or social events at all at her house, and she

0:58:03.573 --> 0:58:07.533
<v Speaker 9>didn't have anything to do with his family usually except

0:58:07.573 --> 0:58:12.133
<v Speaker 9>when she saw them at church. She said that she

0:58:12.333 --> 0:58:14.533
<v Speaker 9>had them over for dinner that night because she was

0:58:14.693 --> 0:58:17.773
<v Speaker 9>going to tell them she had cancer, but really she

0:58:18.013 --> 0:58:21.093
<v Speaker 9>needed them to look after the kids, so she wanted

0:58:21.173 --> 0:58:24.853
<v Speaker 9>to work out a sort of childcare plan while she

0:58:25.013 --> 0:58:33.333
<v Speaker 9>was in hospital getting some liposuction done. So that's all

0:58:33.413 --> 0:58:35.493
<v Speaker 9>the extra information I've got.

0:58:39.213 --> 0:58:41.293
<v Speaker 2>Well, there was something that she went into a gas

0:58:41.333 --> 0:58:43.093
<v Speaker 2>station and they were one in what she was doing

0:58:43.133 --> 0:58:45.213
<v Speaker 2>in a gas station. That was early on on the trial,

0:58:45.253 --> 0:58:46.933
<v Speaker 2>which I got confused by, do you have an information

0:58:47.013 --> 0:58:47.333
<v Speaker 2>about that?

0:58:48.333 --> 0:58:48.973
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, she was.

0:58:49.453 --> 0:58:54.853
<v Speaker 9>So the next day she took her son to a

0:58:54.973 --> 0:58:58.093
<v Speaker 9>football game, which was like at least an hour away

0:58:58.653 --> 0:59:02.373
<v Speaker 9>in the car, and apparently he was hungry on the

0:59:02.453 --> 0:59:04.693
<v Speaker 9>way home, so she just called into the gas station

0:59:04.813 --> 0:59:05.733
<v Speaker 9>to get him some food.

0:59:07.013 --> 0:59:14.573
<v Speaker 2>And why was that significant, I'm not sure? Okay, And

0:59:14.693 --> 0:59:17.533
<v Speaker 2>with her toxicology report. Had she eaten the death caps

0:59:17.613 --> 0:59:20.613
<v Speaker 2>or no? Did they do it? Did they work out

0:59:20.613 --> 0:59:22.773
<v Speaker 2>whether she had any mild poisoning or was that because

0:59:22.773 --> 0:59:23.853
<v Speaker 2>I presume she had need any of it?

0:59:23.973 --> 0:59:24.213
<v Speaker 15>Had she.

0:59:26.253 --> 0:59:28.973
<v Speaker 9>Well, they said she ate a third of it, And

0:59:30.933 --> 0:59:37.813
<v Speaker 9>I haven't heard about the toxology report actually confirming that. Yeah,

0:59:37.893 --> 0:59:40.773
<v Speaker 9>but that. Yeah, but they were like monitoring her bowel

0:59:40.853 --> 0:59:44.173
<v Speaker 9>movements and she went something like eleven times and a

0:59:44.293 --> 0:59:47.133
<v Speaker 9>few minutes something crazy when she did go back. But

0:59:47.253 --> 0:59:49.293
<v Speaker 9>I mean she could have taken something to make.

0:59:49.173 --> 0:59:50.813
<v Speaker 2>Her go to the er course of course.

0:59:51.373 --> 0:59:54.973
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, that while she went, you know, sort of discharged herself.

0:59:55.053 --> 0:59:58.613
<v Speaker 9>And yeah, she might have thought to go back and

0:59:58.733 --> 1:00:01.613
<v Speaker 9>do that for that reason. That was me what I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, gosh, underlying it just tragic for those kids,

1:00:05.133 --> 1:00:07.213
<v Speaker 2>say that's it just sounds like just as like a

1:00:07.253 --> 1:00:08.453
<v Speaker 2>ghastly scenario, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 5>It does?

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<v Speaker 17>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a mother who clearly appears to be unhinged.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think so. And I thought that the son

1:00:21.653 --> 1:00:27.253
<v Speaker 9>actually said when they said that what the guy before

1:00:27.333 --> 1:00:29.413
<v Speaker 9>said that they were standing up for them in court.

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<v Speaker 9>I thought he actually said, Yeah, No, he did say

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<v Speaker 9>that she had been on the toilet a lot. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>they are sticking up for okay, sticking up.

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<v Speaker 4>For a yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Inter was she so? Was she sold custody or was

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<v Speaker 2>she shared custody with the father?

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<v Speaker 9>No, she shared custody. And it sounded like he was

1:00:50.973 --> 1:00:53.213
<v Speaker 9>sticking up for a well, he wasn't sticking up for

1:00:53.333 --> 1:00:54.293
<v Speaker 9>a bit, but he wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can imagine if you're living with some

1:00:58.333 --> 1:01:00.093
<v Speaker 2>of that for a long time, that you yourself could

1:01:00.133 --> 1:01:05.213
<v Speaker 2>be slightly you yourself could be slightly twisted, and you're thinking,

1:01:05.253 --> 1:01:07.813
<v Speaker 2>couldn't you. I mean that's the situation you're environment for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. Do they go to the Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>they do. They still go to the same.

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<v Speaker 9>Church she goes. Sounds like she goes to Yes, she

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<v Speaker 9>goes to the church with his family, and I assume

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<v Speaker 9>he goes to that church as well.

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<v Speaker 18>The ex.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you ever know what you go?

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<v Speaker 9>I don't think she had a good relationship with any

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<v Speaker 9>of his family though. Yeah, like she it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 9>normal thing for them to go to her house for dinner.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it was the first time they'd ever been

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<v Speaker 9>around for dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't look it's going to end well for her.

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<v Speaker 5>Does it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, because what witnesses would they call for her defense?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>Maybe, I don't know, maybe her friends, the character references,

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<v Speaker 9>but as that guy before said, she had been bad

1:02:02.173 --> 1:02:09.053
<v Speaker 9>mouthing them on a group chat the family before the meal.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, do you know any think about the gathering

1:02:11.253 --> 1:02:13.613
<v Speaker 2>the mushrooms she got that eye naturalist site just started

1:02:13.653 --> 1:02:15.413
<v Speaker 2>doing that. I wonder, you know, because you'd have to

1:02:15.453 --> 1:02:16.853
<v Speaker 2>get all the you'd have to get.

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<v Speaker 18>All the you go.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, sorry, she she swore that she didn't forage those mushrooms,

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<v Speaker 9>that she actually did get them from a Asian market supermarket.

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<v Speaker 9>But it was weird that she had been on that website.

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<v Speaker 14>That was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and she hadn't got rid of her such history

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<v Speaker 2>that that was all there on the on the computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 9>That's right? And then there was a whole weird thing

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<v Speaker 9>about the all the phones there was four you know,

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<v Speaker 9>how you'd take your phone back to the original setting.

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<v Speaker 9>She had done that four times on her phone, and

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<v Speaker 9>she had blamed that she got a new SIM card

1:02:58.893 --> 1:03:01.853
<v Speaker 9>on giving one of her phones to her children, so

1:03:02.013 --> 1:03:05.413
<v Speaker 9>she'd wiped it back to factory settings and then put

1:03:05.453 --> 1:03:07.133
<v Speaker 9>a new SIM card in for a child, and then

1:03:07.973 --> 1:03:11.093
<v Speaker 9>they took her phone, so she took her phone she'd

1:03:11.133 --> 1:03:13.773
<v Speaker 9>given to her child back and that's why she had

1:03:13.813 --> 1:03:17.613
<v Speaker 9>to take it back again to factory settings to use

1:03:17.653 --> 1:03:20.053
<v Speaker 9>it again. There was a whole lot of factory settings

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<v Speaker 9>with the phone swhich was really weird as well.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I didn't I didn't know about that because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know about factory settings. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know that was something you could do.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, if you want to clear everything that's on your

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<v Speaker 9>phone and put it back to how it is when

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<v Speaker 9>you first buy a phone, that's what you do.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was all on your card. No it's not, No,

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<v Speaker 2>not all of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it what you're like more or is this

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<v Speaker 2>case particularly fascinating or you're just that true crime stuff.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm into the I sort of. I got well, I

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<v Speaker 9>got into the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard one. I

1:03:56.013 --> 1:03:58.093
<v Speaker 9>watched that every day, and now I've been on the

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<v Speaker 9>Puff Daddy one and Puff Diddy and this one the Mushroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's been it's been a big couple of

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<v Speaker 2>years for you.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, yeah, it has.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, a great recap, Thanks very much.

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<v Speaker 6>For that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mon appreciate that greatly.

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<v Speaker 6>There we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll find that very interesting. Actually, yeah, that's great. Get

1:04:20.613 --> 1:04:22.373
<v Speaker 2>in touch you or talk one of his markets. Also

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<v Speaker 2>talking about Brian Wilson, who starts there. You might have

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<v Speaker 2>seen him perform New Zealand. You might have seen the

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<v Speaker 2>Beach Boys performing New Zealand. You might have seen them

1:04:28.453 --> 1:04:31.133
<v Speaker 2>perform elsewhere. You might have had some running with them.

1:04:31.173 --> 1:04:33.133
<v Speaker 2>You also might want to be one of those musicians

1:04:33.173 --> 1:04:35.893
<v Speaker 2>that want to tell me just the level of his genius,

1:04:35.933 --> 1:04:38.133
<v Speaker 2>because I do know he was a genius, and I

1:04:38.293 --> 1:04:40.973
<v Speaker 2>know people love pet sounds. I spent some time listening

1:04:41.053 --> 1:04:43.013
<v Speaker 2>to that today. I'll spend more time listening it tomorrow.

1:04:44.573 --> 1:04:46.493
<v Speaker 2>I'm not quite into the depths of it yet, but

1:04:46.613 --> 1:04:50.973
<v Speaker 2>I know musicians just absolutely love it. A tiny album,

1:04:51.053 --> 1:04:55.813
<v Speaker 2>thirty eight minutes, so twelve short songs, but yes, I

1:04:55.853 --> 1:04:58.013
<v Speaker 2>think it's voted sort of the second greatest album of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. Nineteen past ten. The number is, oh, eight

1:05:05.293 --> 1:05:08.493
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty ten eight. We are getting reports that

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<v Speaker 2>there has been a landslide in Littleton. Now it says

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<v Speaker 2>that that's evacuated multiple properties or cause multiple properties be evacuated.

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<v Speaker 2>That right, so four places have been affected or four

1:05:26.533 --> 1:05:32.333
<v Speaker 2>places have been caused to be evacuated. Yeah, so four

1:05:32.373 --> 1:05:39.133
<v Speaker 2>places have been evacuated. Ambulances, urban search and rescue, fire

1:05:39.333 --> 1:05:45.093
<v Speaker 2>and police are all there. So that's potentially looking like

1:05:45.213 --> 1:05:50.653
<v Speaker 2>quite a serious situation. That's a landslide in Littleton. We

1:05:50.973 --> 1:05:55.533
<v Speaker 2>have a photojournalist that is heading there and I'll bring

1:05:55.573 --> 1:06:00.573
<v Speaker 2>you more information about that when we have that. If

1:06:00.613 --> 1:06:02.733
<v Speaker 2>you've got some more information, text us through. We'll call

1:06:02.853 --> 1:06:07.053
<v Speaker 2>us about that. Twenty past ten, Brian, and that's Marcus.

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<v Speaker 2>Good evening. Hi.

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<v Speaker 5>Just a couple of points. A caller earlier meant that

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<v Speaker 5>there were She said there were fourteen jurors who were

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<v Speaker 5>actually fifteen jurors selected originally one was discharged during the trial,

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<v Speaker 5>but when they go to consider their verdict there will

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<v Speaker 5>be only twelve, so they must have two in reserve,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a bit different to the New Zealand from

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<v Speaker 5>the other point is that the evidence has concluded, and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the defendant is she was the main witness for

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<v Speaker 5>the defense to cross examination finished late this afternoon and

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<v Speaker 5>as I read it, that is the finish of the

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<v Speaker 5>of all the evidence and now it'll be up to

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<v Speaker 5>the prosecution and defense the sun up and then the judge.

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<v Speaker 5>So we wait with interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it a different a different judicial system there, apart

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<v Speaker 2>from the number.

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<v Speaker 5>On the job. Well, yeah, yeah, I mean, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no law in New Zealand that allows more than

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<v Speaker 5>twelve jurorsm collected. So I presume they have juralism, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and I stand by in case I needed so.

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<v Speaker 2>So her lawyers not yet had a chance to pick

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<v Speaker 2>their holes in the prosecution's case.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they would have been cross examining all the prosecution witnesses.

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<v Speaker 5>But they will get the last. The next stage that

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<v Speaker 5>I understand is that the prosecution will sum up their case,

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<v Speaker 5>followed by the defense, followed by the judge. No doubt

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<v Speaker 5>they'll the defenseful try and picks me hold of it

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<v Speaker 5>if they can when they make these omissions.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I'm at the I'm at the stage

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm thinking, I'm surprised they didn't go to trial

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<v Speaker 2>without a plea bag or something beforehand, or some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of defense, some sort of claim of diminished responsibil because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like it seems like she's got no case.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it looks very very strong circumstantially against it. But

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<v Speaker 5>who knows. With juries, you never know, but I'd be

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<v Speaker 5>surprised if they found her anything other than guilty. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we wait with interest.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know if there's anything. I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know if there's any president with that. There's there been

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<v Speaker 2>other cases of mushroom poisoning.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't I haven't had a club.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll look into it. Yeah, I'll look into it.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's fascinating, and of course there will be a movie,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, what I Yeah, I'm going to just to

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<v Speaker 2>see the whole thing. Does seems unfortunate with her own

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<v Speaker 2>wellness and the custody battle and the parents, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what an unfortunate circumstance and dresstic action to try and

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<v Speaker 2>kill everyone. You imagine your mind goes down there. How

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<v Speaker 2>we do all mushrooms? That's going to be the answer, Patty,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Marcus. Good evening.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll get an Marcus just plane. About the plane crash,

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<v Speaker 8>CNN was saying that it's sort of seven to nine minutes,

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<v Speaker 8>like initially dead and they were coming back on May Day.

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<v Speaker 8>That's what they're reporting to so and the interesting fact

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<v Speaker 8>about this plane also, it's the US plane owned owned

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<v Speaker 8>by that who make those streamliners in the States, but

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<v Speaker 8>they don't. They had all the Rolls voiced engines taken

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<v Speaker 8>off and they use a cheaper Indian brand for those

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<v Speaker 8>streamliners for and they've been running those streamliners for about

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<v Speaker 8>thirteen years and hadn't had any problem. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 8>probably going to be a long investigation, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So there were trouble with the Rolls Royce engines were there?

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<v Speaker 8>Is that right?

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<v Speaker 17>And they replaced them with there No, it's only India

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<v Speaker 17>that I think you had choice. Okay, Rod's voice are

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<v Speaker 17>usually what people what most countries would go with on

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<v Speaker 17>the Dreamliners. I know Quantis that I think they do

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<v Speaker 17>the Rod's voice with their Dreamliners. Most of them do

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<v Speaker 17>the Roll's voice engines because I mean they'd be the

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<v Speaker 17>top of the line. But India had a different one.

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<v Speaker 8>It was fully serviced in India also, So yeah, so

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<v Speaker 8>whether but it's still owned by Boeing. The planes are

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<v Speaker 8>all still owned that they'll send a team and to

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<v Speaker 8>investigate Bowing. Everything has to be frozen and Boeing going

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<v Speaker 8>there and check it all out.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was mentioned, but I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>n Patty, but I did read it that the the

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<v Speaker 2>chief executive of her in there as a guy from

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<v Speaker 2>christ Church is a key we guy. Was that mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>at all?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh no, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I presume he's based India. But yeah, I hadn't heard

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<v Speaker 2>that either. Okay, oh that's interesting information. So Paddy did

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<v Speaker 2>appear as though the plate had taken off, and then

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<v Speaker 2>there was a made and it turned around mayday call.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah it got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Six hundred feet had it turned around and came into

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<v Speaker 2>kind of land? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, obviously there was a mate cast face.

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<v Speaker 2>Look because the footage I've seen it coming into land,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked quite in control. It looked like a standard

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a landing, but just fell short of the

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<v Speaker 2>fell short of the runway.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah for you, isn't it that's hard? You know when

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<v Speaker 8>they look like they've got an you know it would

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<v Speaker 8>be you know, yeah, I wonder what the may day

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, whether it's the engines were on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't see any smoke or anything that looked like

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<v Speaker 2>it was quite standard. I'm going to run petty, but

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. Seventeen to eleven, eight hundred eight ten eighty

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<v Speaker 2>and nine two nine two de text markus still twelve

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<v Speaker 2>of you talk about this or anything else feel free

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<v Speaker 2>and the mushroom case that people are impressed with people's

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<v Speaker 2>level of detail on it. People are really quite compelled

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<v Speaker 2>by this. What's a pretty fascinating case the human condition

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<v Speaker 2>and all of that. So yeah, eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>ten eighty and nine two nine two de text a

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<v Speaker 2>text here high Marcus as a Boeing pilot myself looks

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<v Speaker 2>like from the very short video from takeoff, either had

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<v Speaker 2>no flap selected, or a low flap setting such as

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<v Speaker 2>five degrees five is generally okay for a full length

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<v Speaker 2>runway takeoff, or he had five degrees and possibly took

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<v Speaker 2>off from an intersection point along the runway as an

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<v Speaker 2>i e. Not the full length, then you would generally

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<v Speaker 2>need a high flap setting like fifteen to twenty degrees.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not necessarily an engine power issue. It's a lift

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<v Speaker 2>generation from the wings and flaps issue. Cheers, Gazer. The

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<v Speaker 2>Beach Boys were my first concent in nineteen seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>when I was thirteen at Western Springs. Saw them again

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineties at Baypark Toddonger double bill with Chicago Magical.

1:13:24.453 --> 1:13:30.333
<v Speaker 2>We'll never forget how good they were. But BBC knowledgeable

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<v Speaker 2>commentator said wheels should have been up in seconds and

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<v Speaker 2>weren't one minute, and in flaps were attracted which shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been. They need to be right out for Ma's lift. Evening,

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<v Speaker 2>Bruce Marcus, welcome.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, day Marcus. Yeah, how's it all gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good things, Bruce.

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<v Speaker 19>It's a way they not just that. Yeah, I've looked

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<v Speaker 19>at a few of those views of that plane crash.

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<v Speaker 19>But yeah, it's hard to tell, but it's a bit grainy.

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<v Speaker 19>But to me, he's I don't know, it looks like

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<v Speaker 19>they've selected the flaps up and see with the undercarriage.

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<v Speaker 19>But yeah, and it just wouldn't fly at all. It's

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<v Speaker 19>too much to egg and under carriage and still looks

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<v Speaker 19>a bit that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But that I had to tell so William in the undercarriage,

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<v Speaker 2>the undercarriage is up from until the ba is down

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<v Speaker 2>until the plane's got elevation, hasn't it.

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<v Speaker 19>I think normally they flipped down the carriage up after

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<v Speaker 19>about you know, five or seven seconds some of that,

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<v Speaker 19>I would say, And okay, but with the with the flips,

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<v Speaker 19>they just slowly bring them up, like might take seven,

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<v Speaker 19>six or seven minutes to bring the flets right up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>but better say yeah, if the FLEs went fully up,

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<v Speaker 19>it's a bit hard to say. It looks like in

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<v Speaker 19>the video, looks like they put it all right up.

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<v Speaker 19>You know, there's no sick down at all, so the

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<v Speaker 19>bugill look.

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<v Speaker 2>But Bruce, Bruce, if that had happened, you wouldn't put

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<v Speaker 2>a may Day out, would you?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, if it starts coming down, and yes, you definitely

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<v Speaker 19>would yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But if it's if it's you saying it could be

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<v Speaker 2>pilot era, right, well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 12>It's hard to say.

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<v Speaker 19>They want to Yeah, I don't like saying that, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>it looks a bit that way.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, I just can't. I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>reconcile how you do because you've got your co pilot

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<v Speaker 2>there as well. If there's if you've done the wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, you wouldn't go may day, would you.

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<v Speaker 19>Yeah, we'll put it this way. It just doesn't look

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<v Speaker 19>like as much. Yeah, the flaps aren't done much and

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<v Speaker 19>like that, they normally say down for a long time

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<v Speaker 19>after take off, so yeah, and once they fully up,

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<v Speaker 19>you had a bug or lift with the wheel stored

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<v Speaker 19>in at lower speed. So yeah, but pretty devastating. The

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<v Speaker 19>poor buggers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but wouldn't have much They wouldn't have much warning

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<v Speaker 2>in the host lead if that guy to jump out

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<v Speaker 2>the window. I mean, I'm just trying to think. But

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<v Speaker 2>it must have only been matter of seconds.

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<v Speaker 19>O year. It looks I've only seen one couple of

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<v Speaker 19>videos on it tonight, but yeah, it's just it's devastating

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<v Speaker 19>in it. But he wouldn't have much time, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>it's sitting pretty quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, nice yep, Nice hear from your Bruce thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five Away from twelve. Marcus saw Brian Wilson as

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen piece Better Pacific couple of years back. He was

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<v Speaker 2>clearly damaged early, but the magic of the music was

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<v Speaker 2>there in Spade Sandy dyed cheers, bears. I see Trump

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<v Speaker 2>has added mounted rocket launches and precision guided missiles to

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<v Speaker 2>his birthday parade on Saturday. What a unit? What a unit?

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<v Speaker 2>Won't be watching the parade? He went to that one

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<v Speaker 2>in France, which he kind of liked, didn't he? Marcus

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<v Speaker 2>Cure Marcus from Melbourne, Australia. Nice here from you, isn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Would you please give a shout out to my Auntie Hurley,

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<v Speaker 2>who is currently heading in christ Church Rehab Hospible aftering

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<v Speaker 2>a fall injuring her neck. Get well soon, Grandma Hurley

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<v Speaker 2>or Auntie Hurley. She is currently paralyzed from the shoulder down.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a messagejunior head of her, so please could just

1:17:03.853 --> 1:17:06.613
<v Speaker 2>hand her our love from the Melbourne family. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>the Sandy Hurley, Shirley Kirkaha, Uncle Pop Pop and of

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<v Speaker 2>course Nanny corcor next door. Love you, Nan, Shirley and

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<v Speaker 2>Pop Pop. Get better, Auntie. We're thinking of you and

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<v Speaker 2>sending you our adha love. Tk's any destiny in Danna.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Marcus always tuning in from over the ditch. Nice

1:17:24.453 --> 1:17:27.093
<v Speaker 2>to hear from you, isn't he cheers that get in touch?

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk Marcus till twelve I like a

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<v Speaker 2>trans testmin kind of get well. It's almost like BBC

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<v Speaker 2>World Service. By the way, can I was run away

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<v Speaker 2>with the league? Surprising because well down there down twelve

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<v Speaker 2>to four. I think they're head thirty eighteen at Shark Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I love saying Shark Park, don't they. Oh, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>some more information to I read that for you, just

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<v Speaker 2>about their crash, just because now the expert to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Lieutenant Colonel John R. Davidson, a former US Air

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<v Speaker 2>Force pilot and commercial aviation safety consult said the Stricken

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<v Speaker 2>Jets flight data was highly irregular. From the data available

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<v Speaker 2>at AIC one seven one appeared to have reached takeoff speed,

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<v Speaker 2>but not altitude. To be a six two five feet

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<v Speaker 2>at over one hundred and seventy knots more than four

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<v Speaker 2>minutes after rolling out is highly irregular. This suggests either

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<v Speaker 2>of relate rotation or a stall shortly after takeoff. There

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<v Speaker 2>are a number of possible scenarios thrust or engine performance issues,

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<v Speaker 2>excessive aircraft weight, poor trim or flap configuration, or a

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<v Speaker 2>more critical failure that affected the aircraft's ability to climb,

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<v Speaker 2>whether winds share or even bird strike can't be ruled

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<v Speaker 2>out either at this early stage. Former senior Airline pilot

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<v Speaker 2>Serah Bartnaga told India's NDTV NDTV that a bird strike

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<v Speaker 2>was a likely cause of the crash. Those vultures there,

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<v Speaker 2>haven't they It looks prime a facy, like a case

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<v Speaker 2>of modable bird hits wherein both the engines have lost power.

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<v Speaker 2>The takeoff was perfect and just I believe short of

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<v Speaker 2>taking the gear up, the aircraft started descending, which can

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<v Speaker 2>happen only in case the engine loses power or the

1:19:54.253 --> 1:20:00.013
<v Speaker 2>aircraft stopped developing lift. From the footage, it seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>the takeoff was uneventful. The aircraft came down in a

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<v Speaker 2>controlled fashion, so that's the latest. So the plane was

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<v Speaker 2>going along the runway and it took off and continued

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<v Speaker 2>to go in that same direction and then descended and

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<v Speaker 2>had a building that was the doctor's hostel from the

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<v Speaker 2>local hospital. There were two hundred and forty two people

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<v Speaker 2>on board. The flight was bound for Gatwick. The New

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<v Speaker 2>Zealand Embassy and India have spoken. They said, to their

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge there were no kiwis on board that plane, so

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<v Speaker 2>that peers as though there are casualties in the hostel

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And I've seen no reports that anyone on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane survived, but I haven't seen reports to the

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<v Speaker 2>contry either, but I asked. I have been seeing reports

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<v Speaker 2>that people in the hostel survived by jumping out of

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<v Speaker 2>the window or one person did survive. Of course too,

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<v Speaker 2>the plane was full of fuel. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it would have flown into London direct anyway. It would

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<v Speaker 2>have been full of fuel, no doubt, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a massive explosion of fireball, then a lot of black

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<v Speaker 2>smoke for a long long time.

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