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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from News Talks, EDB, crutch Hold Engage Weekend Sport with

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Speaker 1: Jason Payin and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted

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Speaker 2: News Talks HEB coming up one forty five on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: That means James mconey. James, we've been doing Razors report

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Speaker 2: Card on the radio this afternoon. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: join join the fun give it a grade.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to join the fun, but first we really

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Speaker 3: need to flush the dunny and move on to quote

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Speaker 3: Steve Hanson because that was one giant, let's say, turgid

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Speaker 3: test match this morning. But yes, I would like to

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Speaker 3: give my grade. What have you given, pony? I haven't.

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Speaker 2: I've yet to give my grade. I've been living it

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Speaker 2: up to the to those far more learned than myself.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you that if we're talking out of ten,

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Speaker 2: Lillam Napier has given them a six, Elliott Smith of

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Speaker 2: five and a half.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm going to go higher. I'm giving them a be.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go B because of the the rebuild. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let's be honest. You know you you lose Brady Metallica,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Smith, Sam white Lock. There's a lot of ip

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Speaker 3: going out the out the door right there. So as

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Speaker 3: a as a bit of rebuilding and you know, filling

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Speaker 3: the leadership void, I'm going to go b and And

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Speaker 3: it's just because of that one point. You know, I

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Speaker 3: think people are marking them down because of that one point.

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Speaker 3: Lots right, because you have an unbeaten Northern tour. So

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Speaker 3: that's why I'm staying with my bee. And I actually

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Speaker 3: think if Sam Kine had played that test in Paris,

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Speaker 3: we would have won it because you noticed a couple

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Speaker 3: of times we weren't cleaning out and it made a

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Speaker 3: big difference, I thought, to the to the outcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was. It was a funny

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Speaker 2: old test this morning, wasn't it. And you know, Jason

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Speaker 2: Ryan was on the show and he said, look, it

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Speaker 2: was a bit wet and we've had a long season

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Speaker 2: all that sort of thing. But as you say, it

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Speaker 2: was a bit of a tough watch. Wasn't a pretty dour.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was. I mean, also I do need even

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Speaker 3: though the referee made a couple of good calls, like

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Speaker 3: by not binning Patrick tooperl or too. There was a

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Speaker 3: There's so many times that the Italians were lying on

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Speaker 3: the ground slapping the ball away and if that's not

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Speaker 3: a penalty or even a car then I think world

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Speaker 3: rugby you need to need to have a look because

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Speaker 3: I totally agree with you know, foul playing, dangerous play

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Speaker 3: being elevated to a level where you go and take

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Speaker 3: some time in the bin. But the cidical stuff is

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Speaker 3: getting to the point where there's no way they're supporting

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Speaker 3: their body weight. And I feel like the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: had to be so squeak and clean because you know

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Speaker 3: the straight away they'll find something and and yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: just that I think affected the game. It's just the

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Speaker 3: referee not cleaning up that rack area.

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Speaker 2: Now, All Blacks Player of the Year I've written down

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Speaker 2: Caleb Clark, Tyrell Lomax, Wallace, a Tt, Cody Taylor, Tupulvai.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it will be one of those? Would

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Speaker 2: that would one of those five be your All Blacks

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Speaker 2: Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I'm a massive annoying Chiefs fan, but

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Speaker 3: I do feel that Wallace a Titi and to have

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Speaker 3: been best in show for me, and really Wallace I

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Speaker 3: would actually just say he is a Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: I think that I know that he's young, and he's

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Speaker 3: rookie and all that sort of thing, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: who's just made every post winner. I think it's been

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Speaker 3: him and then two A has been an absolute revelation.

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Speaker 3: But also maybe an option at six if we end

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Speaker 3: up with another really big lock, like a Fabian Holland

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Speaker 3: coming through him, maybe too, a who was quite an

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Speaker 3: undersized lock, maybe he needs to think about it and

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Speaker 3: reinventing himself as a blindside. So you know, that's an option.

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Speaker 3: But I'll probably go for Wallace.

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Speaker 2: I think he might. I think he might want it too,

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Speaker 2: even though he's like he's a first year All Black.

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Speaker 2: Without going back in history, I can't remember a bigger

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Speaker 2: just trying to think maybe, I don't know, maybe Aaron Smith,

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Speaker 3: I think Merts in his first year that World Cup, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was exceptional in the Christian Collen, you know, like

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Speaker 3: those guys when they first came in, Josh Cromfeld. I

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Speaker 3: mean there three or four of them in that ninety

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Speaker 3: ninety five World Cup that were there were first years

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Speaker 3: and they were worthy of being nominated for Player of

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Speaker 3: the Year, So yeah, why not.

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today a Test cricket. I'm enjoying watching

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Speaker 2: the Test cricket yesterday was a stark contrast to the

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Speaker 2: first day. Seventeen wickets on the first day in Perth,

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Speaker 2: but India once they got Australia eight yesterday one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy two without loss and their second d is

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Speaker 2: the lead of two hundred and eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I know it's amazing, isn't it. So where does that

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Speaker 3: put in New Zealand? Are we just the best in

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Speaker 3: the world coming home?

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Speaker 2: I think we must be. I think we must be.

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Speaker 3: Ye. Well, look, Australia is our kryptonite, so I'm happy

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Speaker 3: we really need to play Australia too weeks and I

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Speaker 3: think it is coming up, isn't it, Pony. So we

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Speaker 3: will find out sooner or later whether we can put

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Speaker 3: it with them. The one thing is is that I'm

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Speaker 3: always keeping an eye on, you know, the Fab four

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Speaker 3: and of batters these days and their test averages. So

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about Steve Smith, Joe Ruthkin, Williamson, and bear

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Speaker 3: at Coley and Coley is in a massive slut, which

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Speaker 3: is wonderful to see. So he has down in the

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Speaker 3: and dropping. Caine is in second place behind Steve Smith.

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Speaker 3: But I noticed Steve Smith as well having a few hiccups,

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Speaker 3: so long may that last. I'm always keen for Cain

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Speaker 3: to finish on top. But what I really want to

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Speaker 3: of the series against England, is he still the Caine

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Speaker 3: we remember because he has struggled with England against England

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Speaker 3: before apart from that Test match at the Base, and

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Speaker 3: he's had problems And if it is, If that is

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Speaker 3: the case, maybe it is time came to go. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, the eyes aren't going to get any younger

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Speaker 3: and the team's in good stead without me.

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Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, jee I I don't want to think

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Speaker 2: about the day he walks away, but yeah, yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: obviously coming, isn't it. It'll be, It'll happen at some point. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I just need to ask about the A League as

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Speaker 2: well oftenish here on the air at three and then

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to couch it for the Wellington Phoenix

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Speaker 2: Hat a text this morning from a friend of mine saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: should I back both of the New Zealand teams at

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Speaker 2: the TA B in a MALTI would you be doing that?

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Speaker 3: No? I wouldn't, but that's just because I think we

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Speaker 3: don't know how good awkward this is. I mean that

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Speaker 3: they that the derby game was something special and you know,

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Speaker 3: crazy mistake from the keeper that of decides it right,

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Speaker 3: So MacArthur will test them. I think they see a

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Speaker 3: building something really great though. Now Wellington Phoenix, I think

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Speaker 3: they can be exceptional this year, so maybe they're they're

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Speaker 3: you think they might be a better bet. But the

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Speaker 3: victory that the best put together team in the A

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Speaker 3: League really they've got you know, they're probably the most

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Speaker 3: stacked team, so that is tough. And that's that replay

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Speaker 3: from the from that playoff match earlier in the year,

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Speaker 3: so tough to see. I still think gian Carlo Italiano

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Speaker 3: that bears out in this year.

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Speaker 2: Pony and you see Man City lost again this morning.

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Speaker 2: That was a shame.

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Speaker 3: I know how good is that. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I was always hoping for Nottingham Forrest to do it

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Speaker 3: a Leicester City, but I think it is Brighton. I

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Speaker 3: think they could do it. Let's just hope. I know,

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Speaker 3: Liverpool's your team and all that sort of thing, and

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Speaker 3: they they have got most seller and all time grants

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Speaker 3: out there. But I just want to see someone like

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Speaker 3: Brighton come up and upset the apple cart. And I

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Speaker 3: need to say one last thing about Sam Kane because

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Speaker 3: you know, we we you know, he did five on

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Speaker 3: from with Jim McCaw. Hardestack to follow since I think

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Speaker 3: I've seen it before. Freddie Mercury at Live Aid, but

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Speaker 3: spending his whole orbit career trying to silence the critics

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Speaker 3: and only really managing the silence them after that Ireland

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Speaker 3: World Cup quarter final last year. That's a long time.

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Speaker 3: That is a lot to you know, a big burden

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Speaker 3: for someone like that, and including him throwing breaking your

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Speaker 3: net halfway through, I think he's been one of the

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Speaker 3: toughest and I guess, let's put it this way, he'd

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Speaker 3: made the most of his talent. Sam Canes so nothing

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Speaker 3: but craudits and he deserves his flowers.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Thanks James, always good to chat to you mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, James McConney huge part of our Sundays. I

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