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Speaker 3: YOD and New ZEALA. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks dB.

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Speaker 3: I'm jactaying with you through to midday today. It is

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Speaker 3: always weird watching a big sporting fixture when you don't

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Speaker 3: have a dog in the fight. If I was to

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Speaker 3: break down all of New Zealand's five Super Rugby teams

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Speaker 3: or rank them in my order of preference, I reckon

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and the Blues would be probably bottom of

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Speaker 3: the list. So yeah, it's a weird one tonight seeing

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Speaker 3: a Super Rugby final with two teams whom I don't

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Speaker 3: really care all that much about. But that being said,

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Speaker 3: if I really had to choose, it's still pretty easy.

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Speaker 3: Come on up the Chiefs, down the Blues. I hope

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Speaker 3: there's an upset at seven o'clock tonight at Eden Park.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be counting down to that Super Rugby

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Speaker 3: Final and our feature interviewed this morning right after ten

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Speaker 3: o'clock Key we Rugby League legend Mark Graham is with us.

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Speaker 3: He was hard before before hard was even a thing,

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Speaker 3: like back in the golden years of rugby league, when

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Speaker 3: it wasn't really a sport. It was basically just grievous

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Speaker 3: bodily harm. Every weekend, Mark Graham stood out for being

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Speaker 3: tougher than the rest. So really looking forward to that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Right now, it's eight minutes past nine.

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Speaker 2: Check team.

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Speaker 3: How much worse could it have been? I don't want

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Speaker 3: to speak too soon. A refloating mission is underway as

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Speaker 3: we go to wear but from what we know at

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Speaker 3: the stage key we rail the inter Islander, and honestly,

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Speaker 3: New Zealand might have just escaped a much, much, much

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Speaker 3: more serious disaster. So the Outer Teddy Faery departed Pickton

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Speaker 3: last night and from what we understand about the timeline,

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Speaker 3: it almost immediately lost steering, so within about fifteen minutes

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Speaker 3: it had run aground. There are forty seven people on board,

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Speaker 3: most of them are crew, all of them are in

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Speaker 3: life jackets. Most importantly, all of them are safe, and

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Speaker 3: for now at least the Faery is water tight. As

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Speaker 3: of this minute, we are one minute past high tide

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Speaker 3: and picked in high tide and Pickton was nine oh

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Speaker 3: eight am. It's currently nine oh nine. There are tugboats

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Speaker 3: on the scene and a refloating effort is underway. It's bad,

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Speaker 3: But again my reaction, again not wanting to speak too soon,

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Speaker 3: is at this stage one of tempered relief, and we

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Speaker 3: may have just dodged a far greater disaster. Imagine if

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Speaker 3: the Fairy had lost steering further out in the sounds

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Speaker 3: and had run aground late last night. Imagine if it

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Speaker 3: hadn't been perfectly still and calm. Imagine if it was

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Speaker 3: full of passengers school holidays kids. Imagine if it hadn't

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Speaker 3: stayed water tight. Imagine if it got into trouble at

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Speaker 3: a vital point in cook straight entering Wellington Harbor. There

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Speaker 3: are surely moments on that journey where, even if alarm

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Speaker 3: was raised, emergency vessels and tug boats might not have

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Speaker 3: the time to scramble and save the stricken ship. We

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Speaker 3: could be waking this morning to news of a maritime

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Speaker 3: disaster in one of the most beautiful parts of New Zealand,

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Speaker 3: a disaster that you know, makes the arena look like

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Speaker 3: a mere spilt cup of coffee. And most importantly, of course,

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Speaker 3: people could have been injured, people could have died. The

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Speaker 3: state and the future of the Fairies has been a

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Speaker 3: political football. The previous government signed a fixed price contract

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Speaker 3: to build two new Fairies, but after the Enter Island

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Speaker 3: Resilience project exploded in its projected costs, the new government

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Speaker 3: declined Kei Wei Rail's request for extra funding, and Parliament

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Speaker 3: is recently. Just a couple of days ago, Transport Minister

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Speaker 3: Simeon Brown was highly critical of Kiwi Rail's maintenance of

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Speaker 3: the current fleet. Last night's event will obviously bring all

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Speaker 3: of this into sharp focus. Is this an event that

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Speaker 3: will justify new vessels in the new port infrastructure? After all,

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Speaker 3: let's hope the Fairy and her passengers can be safely refloated,

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Speaker 3: however long that takes. But clearly the status quo is unsustainable.

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Speaker 3: And just because we may have avoided the absolute worst

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Speaker 3: on this occasion, it doesn't mean the next time won't

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Speaker 3: be different. Jack two, right, Oh, we have just this

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Speaker 3: second got a message through from the Marlboro District Council

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Speaker 3: and from the authorities who are working on the attempts

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Speaker 3: to refloat the Artitelly. This morning they have abandoned those attempts.

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Speaker 3: So in the last couple of minutes, they have decided

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Speaker 3: to abandon those attempts and instead send down divers to

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Speaker 3: gather more information about how badly the vessel has run aground.

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Speaker 3: As it happens, my beloved Auntie Barb Tame is a

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Speaker 3: resident of nearby Waikawa. As soon as I saw the

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Speaker 3: news this morning, I flicked her a message and she said, well,

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Speaker 3: where do you think I'm going? I'm going to take

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Speaker 3: refloating effort as the tugboats head out into the sounds today.

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Speaker 3: And she's with us. Now, Hi, Hi, Andy Barb, it's

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Speaker 3: Jack here. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Hi Jack, I can hear you loud and cleary.

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Speaker 3: So where are you at the moment?

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Speaker 6: So I'm with half of Viction up on a lookout

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Speaker 6: looking out over the over the sounds and over the ship.

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Speaker 6: Good views, but yeah, not a lot and not going

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Speaker 6: to be a lot happening, as.

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Speaker 5: You just said.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, so we've we've just heard of abandoned the

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Speaker 3: refloating efforts for now. But what can you see around

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Speaker 6: So a couple of tugs I think few pleasure boats

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Speaker 6: having a bit of a lot. But yeah, just a

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Speaker 6: couple of the local tugs, which I thought looked like

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Speaker 6: they were hooking up to do something. But maybe that's

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Speaker 6: all all finished.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and whereabouts has it run aground? Is it like

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Speaker 3: a straight shot picked in.

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Speaker 6: Well It's turned very violently right instead of heading out

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Speaker 6: into the sound and then turning right to get to Wellington,

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Speaker 6: So it's very very close. It's great viewing for all

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Speaker 6: the Peptonites up here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, what are the conditions like there at the moment.

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Speaker 6: It's just starting to drizzle, but it's perfectly still in

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Speaker 6: calm and great guys, but perfect, Yeah, perfect conditions for

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Speaker 6: whatever they're attempting.

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Speaker 3: Next, how are people feeling about seeing seeing a vessel

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Speaker 3: of that size run aground?

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Speaker 6: What is a wee at?

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Speaker 7: God snacked?

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Speaker 6: But yeah, I haven't.

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Speaker 6: Haven't really talked to talk to any of the locals

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Speaker 6: up to yet. I'm not local long enough myself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that works. It's like you've been there

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: But I mean there's obviously been a bit of concern

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Speaker 3: given given it such an area of natural beauty, you know,

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Speaker 3: is that do I mean? Do you feel kind of

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Speaker 3: anxious about about if it's to refloat it?

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Speaker 6: I feel yes, it could be a big Yeah, it

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Speaker 6: could be a real worry. I always steel anxious when

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Speaker 6: I went on myself not that long ago, and there

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Speaker 6: were various issues. So and I think all the local

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Speaker 6: people and others still pretty much the same. Are you

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Speaker 6: guaranteed to get there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: And so.

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Speaker 3: Have they have someone announce to you guys that they've

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Speaker 6: I think that might be me because everybody's Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: don't know if anybody's I'm sure they're all listening to you, Jack,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not sure if anybody knows that yet.

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Speaker 3: That's good. You make sure everyone's got their iHeartRadio one

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Speaker 6: It's a bit wet now. I might have to go

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Speaker 6: home and come back later.

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Speaker 3: Can you just just one last thing from your vantage

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Speaker 3: point for the people who are on board the vessel

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Speaker 3: at the moment, if they're needing to get people on

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Speaker 3: and off safely, is that how complicated do you think

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Speaker 3: that's going to be?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's very slat and calm, so you know, the

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Speaker 6: back end of the ship's poking out into the sound

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Speaker 6: a bit. So whatever they do with people, I'm sure

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Speaker 6: they can work something out. But yeah, it's not a

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Speaker 6: matter of just holopping off the front and down onto

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up into the sound. Hey, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I hope everything's okay today and obviously we

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Speaker 3: really hope that they can get it back up and

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Speaker 3: floating without any damage or anything like that. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: so do I see you soon. That's my auntie Barb Tame,

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Speaker 3: who is joined by half of picton overlooking the Marlborough Sounds.

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Speaker 3: Is that if it to work out, exactly what's going

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Speaker 3: to happen with the arter Teddy into Islander Ferry continues

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Speaker 3: this morning, We're going to keep you up to speed

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Speaker 3: with the very latest from the authorities as that comes

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Speaker 3: through this morning. So at the moment authorities say they

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Speaker 3: want to put divers in the water, they want to

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Speaker 3: have a really good look at the hull of the

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Speaker 3: ship in the daylight. That they want to observe the

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Speaker 3: vessel utter Teddy as she goes through the full tide,

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Speaker 3: just to see what sort of level of buoyancy she's got.

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Speaker 3: That's come from the Marlburg District Council Mayor Nadine Taylor,

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Speaker 3: who's among those who's been sitting in on a morning

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Speaker 3: briefing on the situation. They say that the divers are

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Speaker 3: going to be investigating the seabed underneath the vessel as well.

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Speaker 3: Quote they want to understand exactly where the hell is

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Speaker 3: the underlying ground she's sitting on, says Nelson District Council

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Speaker 3: Mayor Nadine Taylor. Like I say, well, up to speed

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Speaker 10: Tell me how you've been feeling this get out on

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Speaker 10: the alas, says the loud.

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Speaker 2: Sol's say on my head insteads be in pitch.

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Speaker 3: This is Lord. The song is girl so confusing, and

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Speaker 3: it's actually Charlie XCX featuring Lord. Lord's kind of known

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Speaker 3: for releasing music on the Solstice. She did a couple

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Speaker 3: of years ago, and she did it yesterday with a

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Speaker 3: remix of Charlie xx's new song.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: In the song, the two women hash out their feelings

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Speaker 3: about overthinking their awkward frenemy relationship fueled by tabloid media.

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Speaker 3: They sing about support and admiration for each other, quashing

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Speaker 3: the rumors for good. I know that they share a

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Speaker 3: lot of fans, like the Lord's fan base and Charlie

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Speaker 3: XCX's fan base have massive crossover, and even though the

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Speaker 3: music is quite different in a lot of respects, I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of people have wondered if those two

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Speaker 3: would get together and do a bit of a collaboration

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Speaker 3: at some point. So that's very cool right now, it

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Speaker 3: is twenty two minutes to ten on News Talks. B

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Speaker 3: Francisca Rudkin, our film reviewer, is here with her picks

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Speaker 3: for this weekend. Hey Francisca, good morning. Let's start off

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Speaker 3: with a little bit of a listen to Despicable Me

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Speaker 3: for gru's been compromised.

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Speaker 11: Then we need volunteers.

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Speaker 3: You will be the first to test.

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Speaker 7: Our super serum designed to transform you into cutting and ages,

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Speaker 7: or you might just explain.

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Speaker 3: Eh, okay, that's Despicable Me.

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Speaker 12: For So, the school holidays are two weeks away, and

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Speaker 12: it has been seven years since we last or Grew

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Speaker 12: as Lucy and the family, and the family are still

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Speaker 12: go going strong. They've added a new edition, Grew Junior

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Speaker 12: is there, and they've sort of got a smaller core

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Speaker 12: group of hilarious minions that live with the family and

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Speaker 12: keep us very much entertained. What I love about these

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Speaker 12: films is they appeel to a real wide range of ages.

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Speaker 12: There's jokes for the adults, there's lots of slaps that

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Speaker 12: gags for the little kids. You know, full of heart.

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Speaker 12: These stories and pretty solid storytelling, and this offering is good.

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Speaker 12: It is fun. I actually enjoyed revisiting these guys more

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Speaker 12: than I thought I would. But my worry was that

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Speaker 12: maybe they might have run out of ideas, and it

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Speaker 12: did feel a little bit repetitive in some parts the story.

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Speaker 12: In some parts it was a little bit derivative. As

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Speaker 12: you heard in the trailer bed, it is kind of

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Speaker 12: a side story where they create these super minions, these

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Speaker 12: mutant superhero minions that can't control their powers. We've kind

479
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Speaker 12: of seen that being done quite a bit before. But

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Speaker 12: the main focus in the story as on Grew and

481
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Speaker 12: his nemesis, Maxine Lamalle, escapes prison comes after Grew, so

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Speaker 12: the family have to go into hiding and sort of

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Speaker 12: take on these different identities, and then they have to

484
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Speaker 12: adapt to this very sort of posh, preopy neighborhood and

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Speaker 12: trying to fit in. I think if you've enjoyed the

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Speaker 12: previous films, you're going to enjoy this film. I wondered

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Speaker 12: at the end, there's a fabulous scene at the end,

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Speaker 12: really great upbeat little number at the end, and I

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Speaker 12: wondered whether it was a little bit of a signal

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Speaker 12: that they two acknowledged that maybe they're coming to the

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Speaker 12: end of this franchise. For the holidays, but I'm also

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Speaker 12: great for the younger kids, like lots of kids laughing

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Speaker 12: at all the slapstick bits and pieces. So if you've

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Speaker 12: actually never been to one of these films, this would

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Speaker 12: be good holiday entertainment.

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Speaker 3: Is nice. Okay, that sounds really good. Okay, that's Despicable

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Speaker 3: Me for one, for the fans and for the kids.

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Speaker 3: Next up, something completely different, tell us about the Road

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Speaker 3: to Patagonia.

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Speaker 13: So I picked this.

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Speaker 12: I wanted to talk about this because I thought you

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Speaker 12: would be really interesting because you love a crazy adventure.

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Speaker 12: And then I just thought, oh no, his wife's you're

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Speaker 12: gonna hate you talking about the film if he sees

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Speaker 12: this film. This will not be good for Jack Cane,

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Speaker 12: because I think even if you've just got a tiny

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Speaker 12: little bit of sense of adventure in you, or you know,

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Speaker 12: spirit of adventure in you, you will watch this film

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Speaker 12: and go, yeah, I just need to go and I

510
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Speaker 12: need to get out there in the world and do

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Speaker 12: something crazy. This captures an amazing road trip by an

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Speaker 12: Ozzie Matty Flannon, and he's an ecologist and a surfer,

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Speaker 12: and he decided to travel the West coast of the Americas,

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Speaker 12: so from Alaska and finishing up down in Patagonia. He

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Speaker 12: got a motorbike and he built this sort of custom

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Speaker 12: made sidecar that he can carry his surfboards, and off

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Speaker 12: he goes on the fifty thousand kilometer trip. But it's

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Speaker 12: also a quite beautiful love story this film, because along

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Speaker 12: the way, I think it's about Vancouver, he met Heather,

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Speaker 12: who was a permaculture farmer, and they kind of headed

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Speaker 12: off and they spend a bit of time together, but

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Speaker 12: then he heads off on his way in Mexico, the

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Speaker 12: bike of stolen and the world sort of falls apart

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Speaker 12: a little bit Mattie, but he pulls himself together. Some

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Speaker 12: friends come into it him, he gets another bike, and

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Speaker 12: then Heather decides that actually she's to sell her farm

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Speaker 12: and come and join him as well, and off.

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Speaker 6: They all go.

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Speaker 12: After a little while, all the other friends leave and

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Speaker 12: it's just it comes. It's Jeff, Maddie and Heather on

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Speaker 12: this journey. They meet some amazing indigenous people along the way,

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Speaker 12: living in harmony with the land. They come across communities

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Speaker 12: that are tied to their land, people that are connected

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Speaker 12: to the world around them, and I think there is

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Speaker 12: definitely a very kind of spiritual aspect to this film.

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Speaker 12: Which some people may feel is a little bit happy

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Speaker 12: for them. But I think that the cinematography is so beautiful.

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Speaker 12: Their story is so beautiful. It's delivered in such a

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Speaker 12: very immersive, emotional way that even if it is a

540
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Speaker 12: little bit like too much for you, you still kind

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Speaker 12: of get on board this journey and you fall in

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Speaker 12: love with these two people. And I'm going to be honest,

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Speaker 12: I cried at the end really because no, not because

544
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Speaker 12: things got a little bit wrong. They decide to get

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Speaker 12: rid of the motorbikes because they want to get off

546
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Speaker 12: the rope, and they get horses. It be four horses Jack.

547
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Speaker 12: Now there's Maddie and Heather have ridden a horse. So

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00:29:10,733 --> 00:29:13,733
Speaker 12: things get a little tense and Heather goes home and

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Speaker 12: all of a sudden, the story like these people sort

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Speaker 12: of you do you get quite attached to them. It's

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Speaker 12: really beautiful. It's going to be on at the cinemas.

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Speaker 12: It's worth catching because this actually made has done a

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Speaker 12: really good job with the cinematography. It's an amazing journey

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Speaker 12: and a really thought provoking journey too.

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Speaker 3: Oh it sounds special, Okay, cool, So that's the road

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Speaker 3: to Patagonia. Definitely sounds like a little bit of me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Francesca. We will catch again very soon,

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Speaker 3: and don't forget this morning. Of course, after ten o'clock

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Speaker 3: on News Talk there'd be we're going to be celebrating

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Speaker 3: one of the films that is showing this year's documentary

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Speaker 3: Edge Festival, Dockage Festival. It's called Sharco and it is

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Speaker 3: the story of Kiwi rugby league hard man New Zealand

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Speaker 3: rugby League's player of the Century, Mark Graham. I've been

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Speaker 3: lucky enough to see the film and it was just

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Speaker 3: stunning to me going back and looking at the archival

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Speaker 3: footage of rugby league and you know, the late eighties

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Speaker 3: and nineties, early nineties, just how tough and violent it was.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like you compare it with the modern day,

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Speaker 3: and you know there's a lot of concern about head

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Speaker 3: injuries and potential damage that players might sustain these days.

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Speaker 3: If you just wind back the clock twenty five years,

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Speaker 3: it was a completely different galaxy all together. I mean,

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Speaker 3: people just being openly assaulted live on television, openly assaulted

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Speaker 3: directly in front of the referee and play discontinues. It

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Speaker 3: seems to be totally fine anyway, really looking forward to

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Speaker 3: speaking to Mark Graham and his son Luke Graham, who

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Speaker 3: was the filmmaker behind Charco when they join us after

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Speaker 3: ten this morning. Thank you so much for your feedback, Jack,

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Speaker 3: I really hope you aren't any live stock trucks on

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Speaker 3: board the ferry. That's a really good point actually, So

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Speaker 3: we know that the trucks. It was a freight only

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Speaker 3: sailing last night from Picton, so we know there are

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Speaker 3: some trucks on board the ferry, but we don't know

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Speaker 3: what those trucks are carrying at the stage, Jack, those

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Speaker 3: fairies are clearly not fit for purpose any more.

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Speaker 8: Very much.

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Speaker 3: Hope they can get it refloated without any damage. Good

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Speaker 3: to hear that it's water tight for the time being.

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Speaker 3: If you want to flick us a note, ninety two

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Speaker 3: ninety two is our text number this morning.

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Speaker 1: It's called a ten Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping

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Speaker 1: the conversation going through the weekend with bpure dot cot

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Speaker 3: Auntie Barb's going to be stoked. She's gigging on the

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Speaker 3: fan mail this morning. On the text Jack, your aunt

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Speaker 3: should be on radio. A perfect newscast to kick off

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Speaker 3: the show this morning, says Carol. Thank you, Carol. You

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Speaker 3: know what I'm going to do. I'm going to screenshot

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Speaker 3: that and I'm going to send that Andy Barb. She's

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Speaker 3: going to be delighted. It's going to make her morning

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Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two. If you want to flick us

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Speaker 3: a message, our cook Nikki Wix is here with a

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Speaker 3: perfect winter warmer this morning. Hey Nikki, Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 11: I just got a question. Is am I now speaking

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Speaker 11: to Barb's nephew?

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Speaker 3: Are youreactly we broadcast Antie bar Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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Speaker 3: I love her nephew's having a crack at the bad

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Speaker 3: casting lark as well. But yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 11: I'm having a crack at year. A winter warmer, beautiful

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Speaker 11: one pot dinner, Moroccan spiced lamb shanks and lentils. I

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Speaker 11: nearly took the and lentils out of the title Jack

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Speaker 11: because some people have just got a thing about lentils.

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Speaker 11: But I have come around to them in a big way.

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Speaker 11: I just love them.

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Speaker 3: I think they're delicious. How did you have a thing

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Speaker 3: about lentils? It's such a good way to add richness

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Speaker 3: and five richness.

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Speaker 11: Fiber and protein, and people find them a little bit

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Speaker 11: earthy in the taste. Right, This is a great dish

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Speaker 11: to give them a crack because I've got loads of

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Speaker 11: spices in here, and you know, spices are also the

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Speaker 11: way to a really fantastic dinner jack without spending a

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Speaker 11: fortune spices, and I'm talking dried spices here. I'm not

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Speaker 11: talking about spending lots of money on the fresh versions

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Speaker 11: of any of this. We've got coriander, We've got smoked paprika,

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Speaker 11: which you could lose if you wanted to your neat

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Speaker 11: if you haven't got all of these cumin, We've got

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Speaker 11: ginger in here. We've got cinnamon. Most of us have

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Speaker 11: got those in our cupboard. And that just makes this

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Speaker 11: dish absolutely before. All we're doing is we're heating oil

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Speaker 11: in a big oven proof pottle pan like a casserole

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Speaker 11: dish something like that. Fry some onions off until they're

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Speaker 11: a little bit soft, and I've used sort of large

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Speaker 11: onion or two smaller ones here, sliced kind of thinly,

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Speaker 11: and then add in the spices. And I've got a

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Speaker 11: little quote here, and I wish they were my words,

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Speaker 11: they're not. They're the words of Sara jampol, and she's

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Speaker 11: right of a bon appetite, and she says, raw spices

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Speaker 11: are like shy friends. It takes a little effort to

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Speaker 11: draw them out of their shell to see their true colors.

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Speaker 11: Toasting your spices in a dry heat is a good start,

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Speaker 11: a friendly wave, if you will. But frying those spices

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Speaker 11: in oil is the ultimate icebreaker, and that is very

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Speaker 11: true for these, So pop those in your pot and

646
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Speaker 11: you'll just it gets rid of that sort of dusty flavor.

647
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Speaker 11: Add a couple of lamb shanks and there this ricebee

648
00:34:00,773 --> 00:34:04,253
Speaker 11: seruves too. So two lambshanks. You could use shoulder chops

649
00:34:04,533 --> 00:34:06,613
Speaker 11: if you like for this, and a little bit cheaper again.

650
00:34:07,573 --> 00:34:10,173
Speaker 11: One carrot, decent sort of sized carrot, just chopped up

651
00:34:10,253 --> 00:34:13,413
Speaker 11: roughly in there, and a little piece of lemon peel

652
00:34:13,453 --> 00:34:16,213
Speaker 11: as well. Jack and I do that in lieu of

653
00:34:16,373 --> 00:34:19,933
Speaker 11: preserved lemon, which is a wonderful Moroccan flavor, great ingredient

654
00:34:20,013 --> 00:34:22,333
Speaker 11: that gets used. It's very complex flavor. But you can

655
00:34:22,413 --> 00:34:24,253
Speaker 11: just use a sort of i don't know, like a

656
00:34:24,293 --> 00:34:26,933
Speaker 11: half a thumb sized piece of lemon peel. Chuck it

657
00:34:26,973 --> 00:34:28,373
Speaker 11: all in there, give it all a bit of a

658
00:34:28,413 --> 00:34:32,213
Speaker 11: stir and then add in enough water to just about

659
00:34:32,293 --> 00:34:34,293
Speaker 11: sort of cover the shanks, add in a bit of

660
00:34:34,333 --> 00:34:36,373
Speaker 11: salt and pepper. Bring it all up to a silver

661
00:34:36,533 --> 00:34:37,653
Speaker 11: just to give it a bit of a nudge on

662
00:34:37,653 --> 00:34:40,933
Speaker 11: the stovetop, and then heat and then cook it in

663
00:34:40,933 --> 00:34:43,653
Speaker 11: your oven at one hundred and eighty warms the house

664
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Speaker 11: all that sort of thing. It does need a nice

665
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:49,053
Speaker 11: tight lid on it for about an hour. Ye after

666
00:34:49,053 --> 00:34:52,333
Speaker 11: an hour, give it another stir and add in large

667
00:34:52,373 --> 00:34:55,213
Speaker 11: orange kumra. You could use pumpkin. You could use potato

668
00:34:55,293 --> 00:34:57,453
Speaker 11: in there, just you know, nice big chunks of that,

669
00:34:57,773 --> 00:35:00,893
Speaker 11: and also half a can of drained lentils. They can

670
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:04,013
Speaker 11: be pea ones which is pu y, or just regular

671
00:35:04,053 --> 00:35:08,213
Speaker 11: brown lentils, green lentes, whatever work for you. Pop those

672
00:35:08,333 --> 00:35:11,053
Speaker 11: and cover it again and cook for another sort of

673
00:35:11,093 --> 00:35:13,093
Speaker 11: another hour, maybe an hour and a half. So it's

674
00:35:13,093 --> 00:35:16,413
Speaker 11: a long slow coop, but you want that lamb absolutely

675
00:35:16,453 --> 00:35:19,573
Speaker 11: falling away from the bone. If you're using shoulder chops,

676
00:35:19,613 --> 00:35:22,253
Speaker 11: probably slightly less time than if you using the shanks.

677
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:24,813
Speaker 11: I served them up with some fresh corianne sort of

678
00:35:24,813 --> 00:35:27,773
Speaker 11: tossed over it, lovely salad or some crusty bread to

679
00:35:27,813 --> 00:35:29,853
Speaker 11: soak up the juices. You could use course costs if

680
00:35:29,853 --> 00:35:32,733
Speaker 11: you wanted to stay in with the Moroccan cuisine. But

681
00:35:32,773 --> 00:35:37,053
Speaker 11: it's just really warming and beautiful and you haven't had

682
00:35:37,053 --> 00:35:40,773
Speaker 11: to have loads of fresh ingredients to make this happen.

683
00:35:40,813 --> 00:35:43,093
Speaker 11: Those spices can hang around in your cupboard for a

684
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:46,613
Speaker 11: good time. So you know all those things in the cupboard.

685
00:35:46,333 --> 00:35:46,813
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you?

686
00:35:46,893 --> 00:35:49,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just think kumen is like that

687
00:35:50,373 --> 00:35:53,573
Speaker 3: is the absolute stuff. I just check it in everything.

688
00:35:53,573 --> 00:35:56,093
Speaker 3: My wife's like a fan, but not as much of

689
00:35:56,133 --> 00:35:59,493
Speaker 3: a fan, and so in a very occasion they'll just

690
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:01,493
Speaker 3: be home for dinner by myself, and I always like,

691
00:36:01,533 --> 00:36:05,373
Speaker 3: I'll just do something like fry like a single can

692
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:10,493
Speaker 3: of chickpeas and like the most seen quantity of ground

693
00:36:10,573 --> 00:36:13,053
Speaker 3: cooman you can possibly imagine, a little bit of like

694
00:36:13,173 --> 00:36:15,573
Speaker 3: you know, a little bit of garlic in there, or

695
00:36:15,653 --> 00:36:17,253
Speaker 3: quite a bit of garlic in there, a little bit

696
00:36:17,253 --> 00:36:20,573
Speaker 3: of you know, maybe coconut milk or something like that,

697
00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:23,293
Speaker 3: and the way you go. And I just think Komen

698
00:36:23,333 --> 00:36:23,853
Speaker 3: is amazing.

699
00:36:25,133 --> 00:36:28,533
Speaker 11: Olive oil squeeze. If you're not a fan of cuman,

700
00:36:28,653 --> 00:36:31,773
Speaker 11: some people find it quite a dusty quality, then I

701
00:36:31,853 --> 00:36:35,893
Speaker 11: would recommend you start with cuman seeds and tot because

702
00:36:35,933 --> 00:36:38,693
Speaker 11: they just give you the more concentrated little bits of flavor.

703
00:36:38,773 --> 00:36:42,133
Speaker 11: But yeah, no, this is a beautiful. It just saves,

704
00:36:42,493 --> 00:36:43,893
Speaker 11: you know. It's just it's just a bit of a

705
00:36:43,893 --> 00:36:47,813
Speaker 11: different style than totally sort of tomato based, you know, beautiful.

706
00:36:48,053 --> 00:36:50,413
Speaker 3: Very quickly, I was like, I was just thinking to myself,

707
00:36:50,453 --> 00:36:52,613
Speaker 3: where does the name poo you come from? It's it's French,

708
00:36:52,693 --> 00:36:54,893
Speaker 3: I think, but I just google that.

709
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:57,133
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, so those are French.

710
00:36:57,293 --> 00:37:02,653
Speaker 3: And it's a small distinct volcanic cone in ovne Gee

711
00:37:03,333 --> 00:37:05,213
Speaker 3: in France. So there you go. Boy is a small

712
00:37:05,253 --> 00:37:07,773
Speaker 3: extinct volcan So it's like it's like a monga phoe.

713
00:37:07,773 --> 00:37:11,093
Speaker 3: It's like Mount Eden. But there you go in Nova

714
00:37:11,133 --> 00:37:12,253
Speaker 3: and France. So there you go.

715
00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:12,853
Speaker 6: There you go.

716
00:37:12,893 --> 00:37:15,533
Speaker 11: Well that sounds also they're more expensive. They were always

717
00:37:15,573 --> 00:37:19,213
Speaker 11: more expensive, but they're kind of tighter and they're less mushy. Yeah,

718
00:37:19,213 --> 00:37:20,893
Speaker 11: and I think we say them plee.

719
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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, very good, Thank you so much. We

720
00:37:26,773 --> 00:37:28,853
Speaker 3: will catch you soon and we'll make sure that amazing

721
00:37:28,893 --> 00:37:31,453
Speaker 3: sounding recipe is up and available on the news talks

722
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Speaker 3: the'd be website, so you can cook along at home.

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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

724
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Speaker 1: Know Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bepure dot co

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Speaker 1: dot Nz for high quality supplements, news talks that'd be so.

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Speaker 3: We are just working on getting you whatever updates and

727
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Speaker 3: information we can on the grounding of the other Teddy

728
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Speaker 3: inter islander ferry just outside of Picton. It left picked

729
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Speaker 3: In at about quarter to ten last night on a

730
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Speaker 3: freight only journey and ran a ground a few minutes

731
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Speaker 3: later after a steering failure. At the moment, we understand

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Speaker 3: that everyone on board is accounted for and safe. The moment,

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Speaker 3: the vessel is believed to be water tight, but the

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Speaker 3: authorities are sending divers down to inspect the hull before

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Speaker 3: they decide exactly what to do. As refloating efforts continued,

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Speaker 3: I've had an interesting text from Paul saying Jack, given

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Speaker 3: it's a freight only journey, I'm an ex utter Teddy

738
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Speaker 3: crew member. It's worth noting she might have a full

739
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Speaker 3: load of trucks on the top deck, including livestock, and

740
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Speaker 3: there could also be rail wagons on the bottom rail deck,

741
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Speaker 3: as well as tons of fuel and water ballast. This

742
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Speaker 3: will make the ship very heavy and extremely difficult to shift.

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Speaker 3: So if indeed that's the case, that's going to be

744
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Speaker 3: really tricky. Thank you for that message, Paul, get tomorrow

745
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Speaker 3: your feedback after ten o'clock this morning and of course

746
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Speaker 3: our feature interview right after the ten o'clock news. Key

747
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Speaker 3: we rugby league legend Mark shark O'graham is going to

748
00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:56,133
Speaker 3: be with us. He's one of the great characters of

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Speaker 3: the sport. So can't wait for that. News is next

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Speaker 3: though it's almost ten. This is Newstork zb.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: news talks.

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Speaker 3: Mark Graham is a legend in rugby league. He's been

755
00:39:39,453 --> 00:39:42,173
Speaker 3: named New Zealand Rugby League Player of the Century and

756
00:39:42,213 --> 00:39:44,533
Speaker 3: he's the only player to have made it into both

757
00:39:44,693 --> 00:39:47,733
Speaker 3: the New Zealand and the Australian Rugby League Calls of Fame.

758
00:39:48,213 --> 00:39:50,933
Speaker 3: As a player, he was of course known for his size,

759
00:39:51,053 --> 00:39:54,533
Speaker 3: his speed, his skill, his toughness. He was a predator

760
00:39:54,773 --> 00:39:55,973
Speaker 3: and a sea of sharks.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: Mark's son, Luke Luke Graham is a filmmaker and Luke's

763
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Speaker 3: newest film is a documentary about his dad, sharko tells

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Speaker 3: the story of the man who changed rugby league and

765
00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:10,293
Speaker 3: carried his teams in country to the doorstep of greatness,

766
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Speaker 3: while remaining somewhat of a mystery. Have a listen.

767
00:40:16,973 --> 00:40:20,173
Speaker 2: Mark Graham's appurance of me the greatest player there's ever.

768
00:40:20,053 --> 00:40:22,813
Speaker 3: Been, Captain Mark Graham n r L Mark Graham.

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Speaker 1: Mark Graham is set to be the first New Zealander

770
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Speaker 1: to be adapted into the NRLs Hall of Fame.

771
00:40:31,013 --> 00:40:34,013
Speaker 14: Rugby Lee is the toughest game in the world.

772
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Speaker 3: It was a gladiator game. Mark and Luke Graham are

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Speaker 3: both with us on the show today. Thanks for joining us, gentlemen.

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00:40:51,213 --> 00:40:52,653
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Get nice to be here.

775
00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:53,773
Speaker 9: Thank you sir.

776
00:40:54,013 --> 00:40:56,213
Speaker 3: Nice to be chatting with you. Look, we should start

777
00:40:56,253 --> 00:40:59,453
Speaker 3: with you. You have You've produced all sorts of work

778
00:40:59,493 --> 00:41:02,213
Speaker 3: over the years, but I can only imagine this is

779
00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:06,173
Speaker 3: some of your most personal Why did you tell decide

780
00:41:06,213 --> 00:41:07,373
Speaker 3: to tell your dad's story?

781
00:41:08,453 --> 00:41:09,573
Speaker 9: Wells, it is.

782
00:41:09,453 --> 00:41:12,013
Speaker 15: My most personal and you know, obviously when you see

783
00:41:12,053 --> 00:41:16,533
Speaker 15: your your seat, it's it was for multiple reasons. To

784
00:41:16,533 --> 00:41:20,213
Speaker 15: be honest, my father's uh, you know, he's listening in.

785
00:41:20,293 --> 00:41:24,573
Speaker 15: He's my idols. He's someone that you know, I've always

786
00:41:24,653 --> 00:41:27,053
Speaker 15: proudly looked up to and I've been so proud of

787
00:41:27,053 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 15: his success his career. There was another opportunity to.

788
00:41:32,613 --> 00:41:33,173
Speaker 5: To show it.

789
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Speaker 15: And to show rugby league in an era which I

790
00:41:37,813 --> 00:41:40,893
Speaker 15: think I loved more than I guess Sally today's you

791
00:41:40,893 --> 00:41:41,573
Speaker 15: know today's era.

792
00:41:41,973 --> 00:41:43,213
Speaker 9: I love rugby league back then.

793
00:41:43,293 --> 00:41:43,973
Speaker 2: I grew up in it.

794
00:41:45,013 --> 00:41:47,573
Speaker 15: I looked up to the players and you know, to

795
00:41:47,613 --> 00:41:50,773
Speaker 15: be honest, these were people that gave their their bodies,

796
00:41:50,853 --> 00:41:54,253
Speaker 15: their lives for something they loved but not very much money.

797
00:41:54,573 --> 00:41:58,613
Speaker 15: And filmmaker myself in a in an industry which is

798
00:41:58,693 --> 00:42:04,173
Speaker 15: very hard, I really looked up to those people and

799
00:42:04,213 --> 00:42:05,813
Speaker 15: I still do, to be honest, and it was it

800
00:42:05,853 --> 00:42:08,213
Speaker 15: was amazing to chat to him, and you know other

801
00:42:08,253 --> 00:42:12,573
Speaker 15: reasons it was it was a selfishly selfish reason to

802
00:42:12,573 --> 00:42:15,413
Speaker 15: get to know my family even more and get to

803
00:42:15,453 --> 00:42:16,573
Speaker 15: show this family to the world.

804
00:42:16,653 --> 00:42:20,533
Speaker 3: So did you have any reservations, you know, for some

805
00:42:20,573 --> 00:42:23,813
Speaker 3: people taking on a really personal project like this would

806
00:42:23,853 --> 00:42:25,773
Speaker 3: be you know, of course for a bit of anxiety

807
00:42:25,893 --> 00:42:29,093
Speaker 3: or something like that. Complete complete anxiety the whole time,

808
00:42:29,253 --> 00:42:31,933
Speaker 3: even now, And I think my most anxious moment was

809
00:42:32,973 --> 00:42:36,613
Speaker 3: my first and most anxious moment was dad talking to

810
00:42:36,653 --> 00:42:39,293
Speaker 3: Dad about it. We had gone back to New Zealand

811
00:42:39,293 --> 00:42:44,253
Speaker 3: in twenty seventeen on an strip for his forty year

812
00:42:44,253 --> 00:42:47,813
Speaker 3: reunion for the Auckland team that beat Us Prayer, France

813
00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:49,213
Speaker 3: and England, and.

814
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:53,813
Speaker 15: We started talking about it Dan the first time we

815
00:42:53,853 --> 00:42:56,733
Speaker 15: did our interviews, So we did interviews for which we're

816
00:42:56,733 --> 00:42:59,293
Speaker 15: seeing the documentary. Was very nervous obviously because we talked

817
00:42:59,293 --> 00:43:01,493
Speaker 15: about personal things that we'd never talked about before.

818
00:43:02,093 --> 00:43:03,653
Speaker 9: And lastly was.

819
00:43:05,373 --> 00:43:10,213
Speaker 15: Showing Dad a version of the film in his house

820
00:43:10,293 --> 00:43:14,533
Speaker 15: and nervously waiting watching his interactions, you know, even when

821
00:43:14,533 --> 00:43:16,613
Speaker 15: you had the comedy parts in the film and the

822
00:43:16,773 --> 00:43:19,053
Speaker 15: very emotional parts, just seeing how you reacted to it.

823
00:43:19,093 --> 00:43:21,853
Speaker 9: And yeah, we got through the other end and we

824
00:43:22,093 --> 00:43:23,173
Speaker 9: had a hug and it was lovely.

825
00:43:23,493 --> 00:43:27,173
Speaker 3: Yeah. Mark, what were your reservations, because you make it

826
00:43:27,173 --> 00:43:30,533
Speaker 3: pretty clear in the film you're not someone who usually

827
00:43:30,613 --> 00:43:33,013
Speaker 3: leaps at every opportunity to talk about himself.

828
00:43:34,613 --> 00:43:35,493
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Well, as I said to Luke early on, and I

830
00:43:37,573 --> 00:43:40,533
Speaker 16: think part of the indivind I'm sure was Link's hat

831
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Speaker 16: that or left it in there, But I wasn't really

832
00:43:43,053 --> 00:43:45,653
Speaker 16: sure that anyone would be that keen on watching it,

833
00:43:45,693 --> 00:43:48,213
Speaker 16: to tell you the truth, So I mean, you know

834
00:43:48,333 --> 00:43:54,493
Speaker 16: the cinematic part where Lenk's involvement. But yeah, like my

835
00:43:54,493 --> 00:43:57,493
Speaker 16: my football career is dead and buried in the will.

836
00:43:57,493 --> 00:44:00,093
Speaker 16: I used to love the game. Yeah, I just didn't

837
00:44:00,133 --> 00:44:02,253
Speaker 16: have anyone to be that interested to tell you the truth.

838
00:44:02,693 --> 00:44:06,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean I think I think, dear, I

839
00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:09,453
Speaker 3: say you're wrong on that front, because you know, so

840
00:44:09,573 --> 00:44:13,373
Speaker 3: many people I think will delight in hearing your stories

841
00:44:13,413 --> 00:44:16,013
Speaker 3: reflecting on your career looking back at that kind of

842
00:44:16,013 --> 00:44:19,133
Speaker 3: golden age of rugby league. Well, what was it like

843
00:44:19,453 --> 00:44:22,693
Speaker 3: seeing your son doing the thing he's really good at

844
00:44:22,853 --> 00:44:25,133
Speaker 3: creating in that space Because I don't know if you've

845
00:44:25,133 --> 00:44:27,213
Speaker 3: had opportunities to see him making films before.

846
00:44:28,133 --> 00:44:30,133
Speaker 16: Yeah, that was sort of a place I've seen lots

847
00:44:30,133 --> 00:44:32,493
Speaker 16: of you know, I've obviously seen all the stuff that

848
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:35,213
Speaker 16: he's done, but you know, it's all very very good.

849
00:44:35,253 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's very proud man.

850
00:44:38,413 --> 00:44:39,893
Speaker 16: And I suppose you know, like you know, you want

851
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:42,893
Speaker 16: your children to succeed whatever, and you obviously want to

852
00:44:42,933 --> 00:44:46,253
Speaker 16: support them throughout. And you know, when Luke came to

853
00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:47,973
Speaker 16: with the idea that he wanted to do this, I

854
00:44:48,093 --> 00:44:50,453
Speaker 16: was really keen on I wanted him to do a

855
00:44:50,493 --> 00:44:52,813
Speaker 16: story as he said about the seventy seven authors side,

856
00:44:52,813 --> 00:44:54,813
Speaker 16: where we were all just turned up on a Wednesday

857
00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:57,933
Speaker 16: night and after working all day and played international sides

858
00:44:58,093 --> 00:45:00,653
Speaker 16: for three Wednesdays in a row and beat them all

859
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:03,053
Speaker 16: and you know, I was just and then went back

860
00:45:03,053 --> 00:45:05,773
Speaker 16: to work the next morning. And yeah, so I thought

861
00:45:05,813 --> 00:45:08,013
Speaker 16: that was a story of but he thought it was.

862
00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:10,293
Speaker 16: This one was better, So yeah it was.

863
00:45:10,373 --> 00:45:12,573
Speaker 2: It was lovely for people.

864
00:45:12,373 --> 00:45:15,133
Speaker 3: Who preps don't appreciate how much has changed. Can you

865
00:45:15,173 --> 00:45:18,053
Speaker 3: describe to us what life was like for a rugby

866
00:45:18,093 --> 00:45:19,133
Speaker 3: league player in that era?

867
00:45:21,173 --> 00:45:23,813
Speaker 16: Well, you know what you played on the weekend, Jillie,

868
00:45:24,693 --> 00:45:27,413
Speaker 16: You know, in the afternoon on Saturday or Sunday, and

869
00:45:27,453 --> 00:45:29,573
Speaker 16: then you went to work on Monday, Tuesday, went to

870
00:45:31,693 --> 00:45:35,773
Speaker 16: fully training on Tuesday and Thursday nights and maybe Saturday

871
00:45:35,773 --> 00:45:38,653
Speaker 16: morning if you played on Sunday, and it was just

872
00:45:38,733 --> 00:45:40,653
Speaker 16: an extra thing that you had to do with life,

873
00:45:40,653 --> 00:45:44,893
Speaker 16: you know. And most careers finished after two or three

874
00:45:44,973 --> 00:45:47,653
Speaker 16: years of premier football because you didn't want to get

875
00:45:47,653 --> 00:45:50,133
Speaker 16: injured because by that stage it gimly had a family

876
00:45:50,133 --> 00:45:52,933
Speaker 16: and a mortgage and you couldn't afford to be off injured.

877
00:45:52,973 --> 00:45:56,253
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was they were very short careers nowadays.

878
00:45:56,373 --> 00:45:59,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luke. One of the things that I think ads

879
00:45:59,333 --> 00:46:03,013
Speaker 3: real richness to the to the film is the incredible

880
00:46:03,373 --> 00:46:07,773
Speaker 3: archival footage you've got. One thing that stood out to

881
00:46:07,813 --> 00:46:11,413
Speaker 3: me immediately was just how physical the game was. And

882
00:46:11,453 --> 00:46:13,733
Speaker 3: I know that might sound really obvious, but I mean

883
00:46:13,773 --> 00:46:16,653
Speaker 3: rugby league has always been physical, but my god, it

884
00:46:16,693 --> 00:46:19,653
Speaker 3: was like there was no there were never any penalties

885
00:46:19,653 --> 00:46:23,253
Speaker 3: for head highs, you know, just common assault was perfectly reasonable.

886
00:46:23,613 --> 00:46:25,773
Speaker 3: People are being concustly right and seen to. It was

887
00:46:25,773 --> 00:46:26,773
Speaker 3: another age.

888
00:46:28,013 --> 00:46:31,493
Speaker 15: It certainly was, and I think we hear from multiple

889
00:46:31,493 --> 00:46:35,773
Speaker 15: people on both sides of the Tasman saying comfortably the

890
00:46:35,813 --> 00:46:40,333
Speaker 15: strategy was to take out the best opposing players and

891
00:46:40,453 --> 00:46:42,893
Speaker 15: you had to take them out any way possible so

892
00:46:42,933 --> 00:46:46,133
Speaker 15: that you had a chance of victory. It's a lot

893
00:46:46,213 --> 00:46:49,533
Speaker 15: safer now, and obviously it works so much better for

894
00:46:50,173 --> 00:46:55,373
Speaker 15: taking care of humans, but it's it was I think

895
00:46:55,413 --> 00:47:00,973
Speaker 15: we we we certainly enjoyed as an audience myself, the

896
00:47:01,093 --> 00:47:04,533
Speaker 15: richness and the physicalness of that error and put it

897
00:47:04,573 --> 00:47:05,773
Speaker 15: in your body and everything on.

898
00:47:05,733 --> 00:47:09,733
Speaker 3: The life being there, I ask Mark, how's your body today?

899
00:47:10,893 --> 00:47:11,093
Speaker 5: Yeah?

900
00:47:11,133 --> 00:47:14,293
Speaker 2: Good, thank you? Yeah, find Jack he's still trained a bit.

901
00:47:14,373 --> 00:47:19,373
Speaker 16: I I My wife's a wonderful cooking and nutritionist also,

902
00:47:19,413 --> 00:47:22,093
Speaker 16: and so you know, I eat all the right foods

903
00:47:22,093 --> 00:47:24,333
Speaker 16: and look after myself.

904
00:47:24,373 --> 00:47:25,333
Speaker 2: I play a bit of golf.

905
00:47:25,893 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 16: You know, I'm old now should I'm sixty nine and

906
00:47:28,613 --> 00:47:31,293
Speaker 16: September in the September, so I most probably should have

907
00:47:31,293 --> 00:47:33,013
Speaker 16: a few bumps and bruises, which I do. I've had

908
00:47:33,013 --> 00:47:39,093
Speaker 16: a neck operation, I've had a shoulder reversal, and they

909
00:47:39,093 --> 00:47:41,093
Speaker 16: wanted to give me a new knee a couple of

910
00:47:41,173 --> 00:47:43,613
Speaker 16: years ago, but it just changed my diet completely, so

911
00:47:43,733 --> 00:47:45,293
Speaker 16: it's really helped. So I don't need the need.

912
00:47:45,613 --> 00:47:46,053
Speaker 17: That's good.

913
00:47:46,413 --> 00:47:48,653
Speaker 3: So here, Yeah, just by changing your diet, you haven't

914
00:47:48,653 --> 00:47:50,453
Speaker 3: needed to have that operation.

915
00:47:51,293 --> 00:47:53,893
Speaker 16: Yeah yeah, so yeah, just cut out all the all

916
00:47:53,893 --> 00:47:58,173
Speaker 16: the stuff that makes your body inflammatory and yeah it's working.

917
00:47:58,213 --> 00:47:58,413
Speaker 2: Well.

918
00:47:58,533 --> 00:48:00,773
Speaker 3: Oh that's fantastic. And how do you feel looking back

919
00:48:00,813 --> 00:48:03,053
Speaker 3: at you know that that footage. I'm not sure how

920
00:48:03,093 --> 00:48:05,293
Speaker 3: much you've had an opportunity to see, but looking at

921
00:48:05,333 --> 00:48:07,653
Speaker 3: the physicality of those games back then and looking at

922
00:48:07,693 --> 00:48:11,773
Speaker 3: you as a young man taking those kind of blows, Yeah, I.

923
00:48:11,733 --> 00:48:16,093
Speaker 16: Actually haven't seen that's well, I've seen some parts of it,

924
00:48:16,733 --> 00:48:19,693
Speaker 16: but yeah, it's just how it was. And it wasn't

925
00:48:19,733 --> 00:48:21,493
Speaker 16: just me, it was everybody, that's the thing. And it

926
00:48:21,533 --> 00:48:25,293
Speaker 16: was and before that, stay in the in the seventies,

927
00:48:25,373 --> 00:48:29,813
Speaker 16: it was even harder. So as the as the the

928
00:48:29,853 --> 00:48:36,893
Speaker 16: decades went by, it's scotten, say, a lot less brutal, yeah.

929
00:48:36,293 --> 00:48:40,493
Speaker 2: Although in still a brutal game. So it was. It was.

930
00:48:41,173 --> 00:48:43,373
Speaker 16: It was different, very different in those days. And it

931
00:48:43,493 --> 00:48:46,613
Speaker 16: was a different sort of person. It was a different

932
00:48:46,893 --> 00:48:50,813
Speaker 16: state of mind. And you know, we weren't so much athletes,

933
00:48:50,853 --> 00:48:52,893
Speaker 16: I suppose, as they are today. You know, we you

934
00:48:53,013 --> 00:48:56,053
Speaker 16: have strength and conditioning coaches, you have you know, nutritionalists,

935
00:48:56,093 --> 00:48:59,453
Speaker 16: you have people we actually helped the well being and

936
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:00,133
Speaker 16: stuff like that.

937
00:49:00,413 --> 00:49:03,293
Speaker 2: It was just if you were tough enough, you didn't survive.

938
00:49:03,413 --> 00:49:04,093
Speaker 2: That was how it was.

939
00:49:04,253 --> 00:49:07,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, jeez, hey, look what did you feel like you

940
00:49:07,613 --> 00:49:10,573
Speaker 3: learned about about your dad or your or your family

941
00:49:10,733 --> 00:49:12,093
Speaker 3: throughout this process?

942
00:49:13,013 --> 00:49:15,853
Speaker 15: Well, it was selfishly, I think I was trying to

943
00:49:15,893 --> 00:49:18,533
Speaker 15: learn about myself, my family and even life in that

944
00:49:18,573 --> 00:49:19,293
Speaker 15: era as well.

945
00:49:20,693 --> 00:49:24,053
Speaker 9: You know, I'm a I'm a new father myself currently.

946
00:49:24,053 --> 00:49:25,293
Speaker 9: I actually have two kids.

947
00:49:25,533 --> 00:49:28,013
Speaker 15: The film takes a little bit to make, and over

948
00:49:28,053 --> 00:49:31,813
Speaker 15: that period, I didn't make the cut of the film

949
00:49:31,853 --> 00:49:36,253
Speaker 15: sadly Thomas, so my apologies, but it was I was

950
00:49:36,293 --> 00:49:40,053
Speaker 15: really looking back in and it was a reflection of

951
00:49:40,493 --> 00:49:45,693
Speaker 15: different times for who we are humans over these as

952
00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:48,533
Speaker 15: Brains and New Zealanders. We really are brothers, you know,

953
00:49:48,933 --> 00:49:52,853
Speaker 15: brothers and brothers and sisters and as compared to the world.

954
00:49:53,693 --> 00:50:00,493
Speaker 15: And it was looking about that intergenerational parenthood and parents

955
00:50:00,493 --> 00:50:02,773
Speaker 15: and their and their children. I do obviously say fathers,

956
00:50:02,773 --> 00:50:04,613
Speaker 15: it's fathers and sons, but it is it can really

957
00:50:04,693 --> 00:50:07,333
Speaker 15: be interchange between mother's and their daughters.

958
00:50:07,013 --> 00:50:07,453
Speaker 2: Et cetera.

959
00:50:08,653 --> 00:50:12,573
Speaker 15: It was looking at the person that you know and

960
00:50:13,293 --> 00:50:15,853
Speaker 15: the person that I believe is my father's idol, his father,

961
00:50:16,373 --> 00:50:20,493
Speaker 15: and my father who is my idol, and and hopefully

962
00:50:20,493 --> 00:50:23,853
Speaker 15: for my son as well. And to be honest, I

963
00:50:23,933 --> 00:50:27,133
Speaker 15: learned a lots about how close we really are as

964
00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:27,613
Speaker 15: a family.

965
00:50:28,893 --> 00:50:31,653
Speaker 3: One other theme really stuck out to me, and that

966
00:50:31,893 --> 00:50:36,533
Speaker 3: was the role that class played and still plays to

967
00:50:36,573 --> 00:50:39,133
Speaker 3: a certain degree in rugby league. Was that something you

968
00:50:39,213 --> 00:50:42,573
Speaker 3: really tried to to get across and it really, you know,

969
00:50:43,093 --> 00:50:45,893
Speaker 3: in your dad's here in particular, it was a real

970
00:50:45,973 --> 00:50:46,893
Speaker 3: working class sport.

971
00:50:47,933 --> 00:50:50,693
Speaker 15: Well, yeah, and you'd probably say it certainly has changed

972
00:50:50,693 --> 00:50:54,653
Speaker 15: in New Zealand recently very recently as well. So it's

973
00:50:54,733 --> 00:50:58,653
Speaker 15: it's different. But and and I guess I'm coming as

974
00:50:58,853 --> 00:51:01,493
Speaker 15: I was. I was born in Oda Hu Hu. I

975
00:51:01,493 --> 00:51:04,733
Speaker 15: didn't too long there. Dad got your dad went over

976
00:51:04,733 --> 00:51:06,693
Speaker 15: to Brisbane as you to find out in this sory

977
00:51:06,733 --> 00:51:09,013
Speaker 15: and played in the Brisbane Rugby League. And and I

978
00:51:09,293 --> 00:51:12,453
Speaker 15: stayed in Sydney, grew up in Sydney. But it was

979
00:51:12,613 --> 00:51:16,093
Speaker 15: I was looking at that difference between rugby union and

980
00:51:16,173 --> 00:51:21,453
Speaker 15: rugby league and and someone who from that era chooses

981
00:51:21,973 --> 00:51:25,973
Speaker 15: certainly is a new Zealander all in my opinion. Obviously,

982
00:51:26,853 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 15: you choose rugby league in that era, you know, you're

983
00:51:29,653 --> 00:51:32,533
Speaker 15: choosing a road which you know isn't lined with gold

984
00:51:33,013 --> 00:51:34,853
Speaker 15: and taking you to the you know, in the other

985
00:51:34,933 --> 00:51:39,733
Speaker 15: brick road to once in a sense, and that kind

986
00:51:39,733 --> 00:51:42,693
Speaker 15: of speaks more for it speaks for Dad, but more

987
00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:43,893
Speaker 15: for people you.

988
00:51:43,813 --> 00:51:46,453
Speaker 9: Know that are from the rugby league community.

989
00:51:46,773 --> 00:51:50,453
Speaker 15: What they're a family, they're in it together and and

990
00:51:50,493 --> 00:51:53,773
Speaker 15: they and they're choosing that path because they want to

991
00:51:53,853 --> 00:51:58,333
Speaker 15: challenge themselves. And that's something we probably don't see a

992
00:51:58,333 --> 00:52:00,693
Speaker 15: lot in the in this time and where we are

993
00:52:00,693 --> 00:52:03,853
Speaker 15: now as people that are actively choosing paths to challenge

994
00:52:03,893 --> 00:52:05,693
Speaker 15: themselves to be better and learn more in.

995
00:52:05,613 --> 00:52:08,893
Speaker 9: Life, and that's something we can look up to.

996
00:52:09,533 --> 00:52:11,933
Speaker 15: And it's really just something I really wanted to highlight

997
00:52:11,933 --> 00:52:13,693
Speaker 15: because it's so important to me.

998
00:52:14,893 --> 00:52:15,973
Speaker 9: Has been the best you can?

999
00:52:16,173 --> 00:52:20,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark, I'm thirty seven years old and I cannot

1000
00:52:20,173 --> 00:52:23,853
Speaker 3: remember a time in my life when rugby league has

1001
00:52:23,893 --> 00:52:27,213
Speaker 3: had such prominence and such an energy in New Zealand.

1002
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:30,653
Speaker 3: It really feels like rugby league, for whatever reason, is

1003
00:52:30,733 --> 00:52:34,173
Speaker 3: in a moment at the moment. Is that something that

1004
00:52:34,253 --> 00:52:35,533
Speaker 3: you are conscious of?

1005
00:52:37,093 --> 00:52:42,453
Speaker 16: Yeah, Well, I'm a Worries supporter and fan, and yeah,

1006
00:52:41,773 --> 00:52:45,053
Speaker 16: I marveled some of the stories here coming out of

1007
00:52:45,533 --> 00:52:48,213
Speaker 16: speaking to my great friend Graham the other day and

1008
00:52:48,253 --> 00:52:51,653
Speaker 16: he was we're talking about this very subject. And although

1009
00:52:51,653 --> 00:52:54,053
Speaker 16: I haven't seen it that place, I can I certainly

1010
00:52:54,093 --> 00:52:57,613
Speaker 16: read about you know, the Celle out stadiums at the

1011
00:52:57,613 --> 00:53:00,813
Speaker 16: Warrior's home ground. Yeah, and Rugby Union maybe being a

1012
00:53:00,853 --> 00:53:01,813
Speaker 16: little on the back foot.

1013
00:53:01,613 --> 00:53:02,093
Speaker 2: Of the moment.

1014
00:53:02,453 --> 00:53:04,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think of that? What do you

1015
00:53:04,213 --> 00:53:06,613
Speaker 3: think of the you know, especially the Senate see of

1016
00:53:06,613 --> 00:53:08,773
Speaker 3: the Warriors at the moment and they're kind of the

1017
00:53:08,973 --> 00:53:11,253
Speaker 3: energy behind the team.

1018
00:53:11,373 --> 00:53:15,253
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, I think it's fantastic. I think even one

1019
00:53:15,253 --> 00:53:16,973
Speaker 16: of the Worriors is doing a wonderful job obviously, And

1020
00:53:17,213 --> 00:53:18,813
Speaker 16: a couple of weeks ago when they head I think,

1021
00:53:18,853 --> 00:53:21,213
Speaker 16: you know, nine or ten first graders out and they

1022
00:53:21,933 --> 00:53:24,093
Speaker 16: brought young follows up and they still won the game

1023
00:53:24,133 --> 00:53:27,173
Speaker 16: against really good opposition. I think this is a lot

1024
00:53:27,213 --> 00:53:31,133
Speaker 16: about about the state of the club and the game

1025
00:53:31,173 --> 00:53:31,773
Speaker 16: in New Zealand.

1026
00:53:32,053 --> 00:53:35,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it really does. Hey guys, congratulations on the film.

1027
00:53:35,853 --> 00:53:38,693
Speaker 3: I really hope you can, you know, enjoy the process

1028
00:53:38,733 --> 00:53:41,693
Speaker 3: of having it out there for the world to watch

1029
00:53:41,773 --> 00:53:43,813
Speaker 3: and enjoy. And thank you so much for giving us

1030
00:53:43,853 --> 00:53:45,533
Speaker 3: your time pleasure.

1031
00:53:45,533 --> 00:53:48,533
Speaker 9: Thank you, Jack, thank you very much, appreciate.

1032
00:53:48,173 --> 00:53:51,893
Speaker 3: It so good. That is Mark and Luke Graham. Sharco

1033
00:53:52,013 --> 00:53:53,933
Speaker 3: is going to be playing at the dock Edge Festival,

1034
00:53:54,013 --> 00:53:57,333
Speaker 3: so it's in christ Church right now. It's going to

1035
00:53:57,373 --> 00:54:00,893
Speaker 3: be in Auckland from the third to the fourteenth of

1036
00:54:00,973 --> 00:54:03,533
Speaker 3: July and Wellington of that same period the third to

1037
00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:05,933
Speaker 3: the fourteenth of July. And then of course dock Age

1038
00:54:05,973 --> 00:54:08,653
Speaker 3: does that amazing thing where they have nationwide the virtual

1039
00:54:08,733 --> 00:54:11,133
Speaker 3: cinema as well, so that's in the second half of July.

1040
00:54:12,253 --> 00:54:14,173
Speaker 3: And Sharko is also going to be released in cinemas

1041
00:54:14,213 --> 00:54:16,733
Speaker 3: right across the country in September. Here's the thing, though,

1042
00:54:16,733 --> 00:54:18,533
Speaker 3: we'll put all of the details up on the news talks.

1043
00:54:18,573 --> 00:54:21,253
Speaker 3: He'd be website news talks. He'db dot co dot nz

1044
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Speaker 3: forward slash Jack is the best place to go. We

1045
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Speaker 3: will have all the details there so you can make

1046
00:54:26,573 --> 00:54:29,533
Speaker 3: sure you can go and enjoy Sharco as well. Right now,

1047
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Speaker 3: it is twenty two minutes past ten, Jack team, if

1048
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Speaker 3: you are just joining us this morning. The news out

1049
00:54:35,853 --> 00:54:38,813
Speaker 3: of the Marlboros Sounds is that the Utta Teddy and

1050
00:54:38,893 --> 00:54:44,333
Speaker 3: Drylander ferry is still grounded. It was grounded just before

1051
00:54:44,373 --> 00:54:47,973
Speaker 3: ten o'clock last night after leaving Picton with a freight

1052
00:54:48,133 --> 00:54:50,893
Speaker 3: load so trucks. We believe there might be some rail

1053
00:54:51,173 --> 00:54:54,013
Speaker 3: carriages on there as well, but no passengers as such.

1054
00:54:54,053 --> 00:54:56,773
Speaker 3: I think there are nine truck drivers and the rest

1055
00:54:56,773 --> 00:55:00,613
Speaker 3: of the people on board are all crew. The authorities

1056
00:55:00,653 --> 00:55:02,173
Speaker 3: went out and had a look at the vessel at

1057
00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:05,093
Speaker 3: high tide this morning, which was just after nine o'clock.

1058
00:55:05,373 --> 00:55:08,253
Speaker 3: They decided that they I wouldn't proceed at that stage

1059
00:55:08,333 --> 00:55:10,813
Speaker 3: with refloating efforts. Instead, they wanted to get divers to

1060
00:55:10,853 --> 00:55:12,293
Speaker 3: go down and have a little bit of a look.

1061
00:55:12,573 --> 00:55:15,413
Speaker 3: In the last couple of minutes, they've released a statement

1062
00:55:16,133 --> 00:55:19,013
Speaker 3: through to our newsroom and this comes from the Inter

1063
00:55:19,133 --> 00:55:23,413
Speaker 3: Islander Executive General Manager Duncan Roy. The refloating of Artiteta

1064
00:55:23,453 --> 00:55:26,133
Speaker 3: has been delayed until this evening's high tied at around

1065
00:55:26,213 --> 00:55:29,133
Speaker 3: nine pm to allow more time to prepare the ship

1066
00:55:29,453 --> 00:55:32,213
Speaker 3: and make use of a higher tide. Obviously, if there's

1067
00:55:32,213 --> 00:55:34,253
Speaker 3: any more information that comes through on that, I will

1068
00:55:34,333 --> 00:55:35,733
Speaker 3: let you know. In the meantime, if you want to

1069
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Speaker 3: get in touch, our text number is ninety two ninety two.

1070
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Speaker 3: you like to go around the country in a motor

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Speaker 3: home or a caravan something like that. Really big changes

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Speaker 3: there that are going to make life a whole lot

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Speaker 3: easier for people using Starlinks. I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 3: about that very soon. Next up your TV shows to

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Speaker 3: watch your stream this weekend at our screen time picks.

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Speaker 3: It's twenty three minutes past tenure with Jack Tame and

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Speaker 3: this is news talks edb.

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Speaker 1: Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack Tam.

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Speaker 2: And Bpure dot Co.

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Speaker 1: Do ont inst for high quality supplements used talks edb Oh.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your messages. We've had heaps of texts

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Speaker 3: come through. Glad you enjoyed that interview. Jack, What a

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Speaker 3: beautiful conversation. These two Mark and Luke are humble genius legends,

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Speaker 3: says David.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 3: I can't understand why Mark Graham wasn't knighted. As far

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Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, he's the greatest we've ever had.

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Speaker 7: Jack.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic interview with the Grahames. What an absolute legend of

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Speaker 3: New Zealand rugby league. The Goat, says Jared. The Goat

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Speaker 3: the greatest of all time, you know, Jack, says Clayton.

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Speaker 3: My adoration of rugby league has waned a bit over

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Speaker 3: the years, but the height of my love for the

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Speaker 3: game was back in the days of Mark Graham. I

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Speaker 3: absolutely loved everything about league you know, thinking back to

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Speaker 3: the days Graham, Lewis, Langer, Meninger, I reckon that was

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Speaker 3: the absolute highlight of the sport. Thank you, Clayton ninety two,

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Speaker 3: ninety two. If you want to flick us a message

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Speaker 3: this morning, it is screen time time. Our screen time

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Speaker 3: expert Tara Ward is here with her shows to recommend

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Speaker 3: this morning. Hey Tara, good morning. Let's kick off this

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Speaker 3: morning with a show streaming on Apple TV Plus starring

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Speaker 3: Jake jillen Hall. Tell us about Presumed Innocent.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, this is a crime drama that's made by David E.

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Speaker 18: Kelly and as you say, stars Jake Jillen Hall, and

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Speaker 18: it's a remake of the movie of the same name

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Speaker 18: that starred Harrison Ford back in the nineties. And Jake

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Speaker 18: Gillenhall plays a county prosecutor. He's a hot shot lawyer,

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00:57:47,293 --> 00:57:49,933
Speaker 18: he's a family man, and then he's accused of the

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Speaker 18: murder of one of his colleagues, who it turns out

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Speaker 18: he was also having an affair with. And the question

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Speaker 18: here is is he being set up by his enemies

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Speaker 18: or is he actually guilty? And has he framed another

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Speaker 18: man for a similar crime from years ago? And Jake

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Speaker 18: Gillenhall's character has to prove his innocent and we have

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Speaker 18: to decide whether we believe him or not. There's a

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Speaker 18: really good cast and this Peto sALS Guard stars and

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Speaker 18: this as well. It's very glossy and polished, which you know,

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Speaker 18: we've come to expect with the Apple TV Plus shows.

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Speaker 18: It is quite a slow burn. There's eight episodes here,

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Speaker 18: which I think maybe might be just a little bit

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Speaker 18: too long, might have been a bit tighter as a movie.

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Speaker 18: But you know, it's doing what a lot of TV

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Speaker 18: shows are doing at the moment. It's it's fine. It's

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Speaker 18: good TV. It looks great, it ticks all the boxes,

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Speaker 18: but it's not particularly memorable or exciting. It's sort of

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Speaker 18: sticking to that tried and true courtroom drama kind of series,

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Speaker 18: you know, but still a good, solid watch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, So that's Presumed Innocent. On Apple TV Plus,

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Speaker 3: tell us about Elsbeth.

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Speaker 18: And this is a new American drama that's coming to

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Speaker 18: TVNZ one and TVNZ plus this week. It's another crime drama,

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Speaker 18: but quite different in tone. This is quite light and colorful.

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Speaker 18: It's about a woman named Elsbeth, who was originally a

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Speaker 18: character on two very successful shows called The Good Wife

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Speaker 18: and The Good Fight, both legal dramas, and she was

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Speaker 18: sort of a fan favorite, and now they've given her

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Speaker 18: her own spinoff series. And Elsabeth is this quirky, cooky,

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00:59:15,813 --> 00:59:19,453
Speaker 18: unconventional kind of lawyer with a razor sharp mind. She

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Speaker 18: works in police surveillance, so she turns up to crime

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Speaker 18: scenes to make sure that the police are following the rules.

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Speaker 18: And she's supposed to be an impartial observer, but she

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Speaker 18: can't help herself from putting her two cents and solving

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Speaker 18: the crimes. And every episode of this series is a

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Speaker 18: different crime, so it's one of those murder of the

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Speaker 18: week kind of shows. Everything is tied up nice and

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Speaker 18: neatly after an hour, and it's a murder mystery that

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Speaker 18: leans more onto the comedic side of things rather than

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Speaker 18: a drama. So you don't need to have seen The

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Speaker 18: Good Fight or The Good Wife for this to make sense.

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Speaker 18: And I think if you like shows like My Life

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Speaker 18: Is Murder or Monk, then this is in that same

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Speaker 18: kind of style. You know, it's light, easy to watch, warm,

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Speaker 18: and add a bit of fun.

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Speaker 3: Cool, okay, and on prime video The Outlaws.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, third season of the Speed series has just dropped

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Speaker 18: on Prime and this is a great British comedy series

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Speaker 18: that I think has flown under the radar a bit here.

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Speaker 18: It's created by and stars Stephen Merchant, and it's about

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Speaker 18: seven strangers from very different backgrounds who end up on

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Speaker 18: the same community service team in Bristol. So the very

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Speaker 18: different people brought together to do some community work to

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Speaker 18: pay for their low level crimes. And they are tiding

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Speaker 18: up a local hall where they discover a bag full

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Speaker 18: of cash and the ceiling and find themselves tangled up

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Speaker 18: in this drug deal that's going on. They have to

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Speaker 18: decide as a group whether they'll go straight and live

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Speaker 18: honest lives or whether they'll use that money to their

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Speaker 18: advantage to kind of kick start the lives that they've

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Speaker 18: always wanted. This comes with such a great cast as

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Speaker 18: well as Stephen Merchant, there's Christopher Walkendle, Tomlinson, Jessica Gunning,

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Speaker 18: Jessica Gunning sorry from Baby Reindeer. And it kind of

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Speaker 18: bounces between being a comedy and a thriller, but it's

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Speaker 18: got a lot of heart as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah cool, Okay, that sounds great too, So that's the Outlaws.

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Speaker 3: I love Stephen Merchant it's just so he's fantastic, isn't he.

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Speaker 3: I always felt like he was kind of the underrated

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Speaker 3: genius behind your vas, don't you think.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, I think you might be right, and he's sort

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Speaker 18: of gone on to do lots of other things. Yeah,

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Speaker 18: this is just so great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I used to way back in the day

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Speaker 3: when they first started working together. I used to listen

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Speaker 3: to their podcast and I always felt Stephen Mentionin is

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Speaker 3: so wetty, like he's he's funny in a way that

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Speaker 3: you know, like dere I say, no one outside of

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Speaker 3: Britain could ever be in Britain particular web. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so that's very much a better meat. That's the Outlaws.

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Speaker 3: It's on Prime Video Presumed Innocent, the one with Jake

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Speaker 3: Gyllenhall is on Apple TV Plus, and Elsbeth is on

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Speaker 3: TV and z Plus. It has just gone ten.

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Speaker 1: Thirty, Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack

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Speaker 1: Team on News Talk zed B.

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Speaker 3: And I've fun please.

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Speaker 17: Be on stuff.

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Speaker 19: Oh we beat her for thought you'd hand me, but

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Speaker 19: instead you called saidah mass you.

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Speaker 10: Good to each other.

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Speaker 17: Gave it summer.

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Speaker 3: This is Gracie Abrams. She's twenty four years old, doing

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Speaker 3: pretty well for herself. So she grew up singing kind

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Speaker 3: of quietly in her bedroom, you know, so no one

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Speaker 3: would hear, and then from that developed a signature, whispery

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Speaker 3: kind of singing style. Now she has written some pretty

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Speaker 3: candid songs about love and heartbreak and security, and she's

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Speaker 3: done well out of it. She landed a Grammy nomination

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Speaker 3: for Best New Artist and a place as the opening

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Speaker 3: act on Taylor Swift's humongous Eras Too. I think the

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Speaker 3: real question is which modern musician didn't grow up making

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Speaker 3: music in their bedroom quietly. It started off as a

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Speaker 3: kind of remarkable thing. Now it's in danger for coming

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Speaker 3: a bit of a cliche. Anyway, She's obviously got an

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Speaker 3: amazing voice, and abrams second album has just been released.

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Speaker 3: We're going to play you that album after eleven o'clock

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Speaker 3: this morning. I have a little bit more of a

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Speaker 3: listen if you're just turning on the radio. We've been

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Speaker 3: following the situation in the Marlboro Sounds, the Outer Teddy

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Speaker 3: Faery the Endo Islander ran aground last night. Authorities have

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Speaker 3: delayed their efforts to refloat the faery for now. It

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Speaker 3: was high tied just after nine o'clock this morning, but

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Speaker 3: they decided that they wanted to send out some divers

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Speaker 3: inspect the hull and then have another go this evening.

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Speaker 3: As it happens, my auntie Auntie bab Tame, lives in Waikawa,

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Speaker 3: which is about as close as you could get to

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Speaker 3: the grounding. So as soon as I saw the news

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Speaker 3: this morning, I sent her a message and she says, oh,

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Speaker 3: don't you worry about me. I'm heading out there as

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Speaker 3: we speak. I've packed my thermos, I've got my bike

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Speaker 3: going up to a go advantage point so i can

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Speaker 3: look at the refloating efforts. Anyway, she's seen me a

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Speaker 3: photo this morning. It is if you haven't seen the

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Speaker 3: images of the outer of Teddy, it is pretty amazing

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Speaker 3: seeing an utrore islander. I mean it almost looks like

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Speaker 3: it's kind of pulled up and parked but knows first

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Speaker 3: into the side of the Marlborough Sounds. It really does

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Speaker 3: look kind of peculiar and strange, and it's beautiful, obviously

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Speaker 3: one of the most beautiful parts of the country, but

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Speaker 3: there's a bit of low hanging cloud there this morning.

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Speaker 3: The whole sounds have a kind of you know a

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Speaker 3: beautiful stillness this morning, so it is quite beautiful obviously

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Speaker 3: extremely concerning as well. If we have any updates on

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Speaker 3: the refloating efforts, we're going to make sure we share

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Speaker 3: those with you just as soon as they come through

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Speaker 3: to the newsroom. And look, thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: the Auntie Barb love. You have made me feel a

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Speaker 3: little bit envious this morning after our interview with her. Jack,

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Speaker 3: any chance that Auntie Barb might be able to do

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Speaker 3: the rest of the shows is Gareth, who knows? Maybe

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Speaker 3: she could even just take over on Saturday mornings. Why

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Speaker 3: not Life from Waykara every Saturday. I'm going to send

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Speaker 3: her these messages. He'll be absolutely loving it. If you

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Speaker 3: want to get in touch, ninety two. Ninety two is

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Speaker 3: our text number. The Big Change is coming to Starlink next.

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Speaker 1: Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, some Mike asking.

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Speaker 6: Breakfast Finance Minister Nicola Willis, is will us what.

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Speaker 20: We are seeing in our forecast? This is what there

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Speaker 20: is is banks if they were engineering, if they wanted

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Speaker 20: to see the slowdown, well, this is a slowdown and

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Speaker 20: what we want to see is productive growth coming back

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Speaker 20: into the economy.

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Speaker 12: What You've just outlined a big picture of things.

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Speaker 21: You're asking New Zealander is to endure a very long

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Speaker 21: period of very difficult times.

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Speaker 20: I'm also delivering things this year. I think it is

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Speaker 20: really important that text reduction is coming at the end

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Speaker 20: of July. That is sunlight and what would otherwise be

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Speaker 20: a very challenging winter.

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Speaker 1: Back Monday from six am, the Mike asking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: Jaguar Newstalk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Jack, good morning, the situation and picked in as well,

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Speaker 3: under control, don't worry the RNZAF for flying down a

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Speaker 3: recovery team in the seven five to seven, very droll,

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Speaker 3: twenty to eleven on News Talks, he'd be Starlink is

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Speaker 3: going many Texpert is Paul Stenhouse. He has all the

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Speaker 3: details on the service that gives Internet to people who

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Speaker 3: might not otherwise have it. What's happening, Paul.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, it's about to go to places where Internet has

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Speaker 14: never been possible. This is actually I know it's easy

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01:06:12,693 --> 01:06:14,733
Speaker 14: to hate on Elon Musk and he says that this

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01:06:14,773 --> 01:06:17,013
Speaker 14: product will change the world, and it all sounds a

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01:06:17,013 --> 01:06:20,253
Speaker 14: bit cliche, but wow, he actually kind of has a

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01:06:20,293 --> 01:06:20,973
Speaker 14: point here, Jack.

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Speaker 17: This is cool.

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Speaker 14: This is a pretty big technology breakthrough. So Starlink at

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01:06:26,053 --> 01:06:28,333
Speaker 14: the moment, just to set the scene, is it's a

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01:06:28,413 --> 01:06:31,613
Speaker 14: satellite dish that kind of looks like a I don't know,

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01:06:31,933 --> 01:06:35,093
Speaker 14: like a couple of laptops kind of put together. And

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Speaker 14: then it's got a wireless base station somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: Yeh.

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Speaker 14: This Starlin Mini is basically the size of a MacBook,

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01:06:42,653 --> 01:06:47,373
Speaker 14: basically the size of the biggest iPad, and that is it.

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01:06:47,373 --> 01:06:50,613
Speaker 14: It's an all in one device. You can point it

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01:06:50,733 --> 01:06:53,493
Speaker 14: at the sky and get Internet. Now why will it

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01:06:53,533 --> 01:06:55,933
Speaker 14: take you to places and give Internet in places you

1303
01:06:55,973 --> 01:06:58,253
Speaker 14: may not have been able to get it before. This

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01:06:58,293 --> 01:07:02,853
Speaker 14: can be powered using basically a portable power pack.

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01:07:03,173 --> 01:07:04,093
Speaker 3: Wow, so the thing you.

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01:07:04,093 --> 01:07:07,973
Speaker 14: Use to charge your phone in base a slightly more

1307
01:07:07,973 --> 01:07:11,893
Speaker 14: souped up version, but that can basically power your Starlink device.

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01:07:13,093 --> 01:07:16,133
Speaker 14: You can get Internet wherever you are, and it delivers

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01:07:16,133 --> 01:07:17,893
Speaker 14: one hundred megabytes per second.

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Speaker 3: Which just phenomenal one hundred megas of a second as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, So that's like we're talking here about like some

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01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:30,213
Speaker 14: pretty cool technology that you think about where this could

1314
01:07:30,213 --> 01:07:33,413
Speaker 14: actually be deployed now right, like this could be this

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Speaker 14: I mean the way that they're kind of putting it

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01:07:35,653 --> 01:07:37,853
Speaker 14: is you know, if you have a starlink already, you

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01:07:37,853 --> 01:07:40,413
Speaker 14: can now get an additional mini and take it on

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01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:42,693
Speaker 14: the go with you. Yeah, but you actually could think

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01:07:42,693 --> 01:07:44,573
Speaker 14: of the people who have camp evans.

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01:07:44,893 --> 01:07:46,013
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I think of.

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Speaker 14: You know, like you've got maybe you've got your starlink.

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01:07:48,053 --> 01:07:49,533
Speaker 14: You I think a few years down the line and

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01:07:49,573 --> 01:07:51,613
Speaker 14: you've got a starlink at home or whatever, and then

1324
01:07:51,613 --> 01:07:54,053
Speaker 14: you just take your starlink Mini with you and you

1325
01:07:54,053 --> 01:07:56,853
Speaker 14: could be camping, you could be wherever.

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01:07:57,173 --> 01:07:58,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there you are.

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01:07:58,133 --> 01:08:02,493
Speaker 14: You've got Internet with you at blisteringly fast speeds. Should

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01:08:02,533 --> 01:08:05,093
Speaker 14: point out at the moment, only available in the USA

1329
01:08:05,133 --> 01:08:07,213
Speaker 14: as an add on, it is a available as a

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Speaker 14: standalone thing in parts of Central and South America, and

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01:08:10,693 --> 01:08:12,533
Speaker 14: I'm going to be rolling it up to more countries soon,

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Speaker 14: So keep an eye out for the Starlin Committee.

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Speaker 3: It's funny I saw like a hot take once on

1334
01:08:19,213 --> 01:08:26,413
Speaker 3: Twitter or x that suggested for all of el Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:08:26,453 --> 01:08:30,213
Speaker 3: all of his various projects, be at SpaceX, be it Tesla,

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01:08:30,573 --> 01:08:33,693
Speaker 3: be it Twitter X, be at the hyper loop, everything,

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01:08:33,813 --> 01:08:35,893
Speaker 3: for all of the stuff that he's involved with, that

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01:08:35,973 --> 01:08:37,933
Speaker 3: this would end up being the thing that actually had

1339
01:08:37,933 --> 01:08:42,973
Speaker 3: the biggest impact by kind of not necessarily democratizing information,

1340
01:08:43,093 --> 01:08:45,013
Speaker 3: but by giving lots of people who would not otherwise

1341
01:08:45,053 --> 01:08:47,613
Speaker 3: have access to the Internet. Internet, he could you know,

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01:08:47,973 --> 01:08:50,493
Speaker 3: change the world in quite profound ways, which is very interesting.

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01:08:50,533 --> 01:08:52,413
Speaker 14: Think about this in emergency situations.

1344
01:08:52,573 --> 01:08:53,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly.

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01:08:53,733 --> 01:08:56,733
Speaker 14: You just need you don't need power the grid goes down,

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01:08:56,773 --> 01:08:58,853
Speaker 14: and say, you can still get folks connected, I think.

1347
01:08:58,973 --> 01:09:01,733
Speaker 3: I mean the war marketing is one I think of. Yeah,

1348
01:09:02,493 --> 01:09:05,293
Speaker 3: and our soldiers in the battlefield have been using you know,

1349
01:09:05,373 --> 01:09:08,173
Speaker 3: his his Starlin so that they can work out where

1350
01:09:08,173 --> 01:09:11,053
Speaker 3: the enemy is and guide their various attacks and things, which.

1351
01:09:10,893 --> 01:09:12,733
Speaker 14: Is quite It makes it a bit like a video game.

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01:09:12,613 --> 01:09:15,453
Speaker 3: Does, worryingly. So yeah, hey, thank you so much, Paul.

1353
01:09:15,933 --> 01:09:18,973
Speaker 3: That is really really interesting to be intriguing to follow that.

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01:09:19,373 --> 01:09:22,253
Speaker 3: Thank you for your messages as well. Very helpful suggestion here, Jack,

1355
01:09:22,253 --> 01:09:24,493
Speaker 3: perhaps we could lever the odd teddy off the rocks

1356
01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:27,293
Speaker 3: with that power pylon. Yes, it does feel like a

1357
01:09:27,293 --> 01:09:29,893
Speaker 3: few things have broken down recently, doesn't it? In New

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01:09:30,013 --> 01:09:32,293
Speaker 3: Zealand right now it is sixteen to eleven.

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01:09:32,613 --> 01:09:34,253
Speaker 2: A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

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Speaker 2: Then with Jack.

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01:09:35,493 --> 01:09:38,693
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bepwart on co dot

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01:09:38,773 --> 01:09:41,613
Speaker 1: nz for high quality supplements use talks eNB.

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen minutes to eleven on news Talk ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Today is the twenty second of June. That means we're

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01:09:47,733 --> 01:09:50,253
Speaker 3: through the winter solstice. It means there are only a

1366
01:09:50,253 --> 01:09:53,373
Speaker 3: few days left before we hit the cutoff for the

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Speaker 3: government contribution to key we save. A Personal finance expert

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Speaker 3: Lisa Dudson from Acumen is with us this morning. Hey Lisa,

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01:10:01,093 --> 01:10:03,333
Speaker 3: good morning Jack. It's so good to be talking. So

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01:10:03,413 --> 01:10:05,813
Speaker 3: talk us through what we need to have sorted in

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01:10:06,053 --> 01:10:09,253
Speaker 3: order to get the maximum government contribution.

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Speaker 4: By the thirtieth of June, which is where the can

1373
01:10:12,733 --> 01:10:16,053
Speaker 4: you say, the year ends, You must have contributed one

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01:10:16,053 --> 01:10:19,973
Speaker 4: thousand and forty two during that previous twelve months for

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01:10:20,053 --> 01:10:22,493
Speaker 4: the government to pop five hundred and twenty one dollars

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01:10:22,533 --> 01:10:23,813
Speaker 4: into your pv save account.

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01:10:24,053 --> 01:10:25,533
Speaker 3: And why is this so important?

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01:10:26,573 --> 01:10:28,653
Speaker 4: Well, it's because it ends up you know, I mean,

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01:10:28,893 --> 01:10:31,293
Speaker 4: you know, five hundred and twenty one dollars is essentially

1380
01:10:31,373 --> 01:10:34,373
Speaker 4: free money, right as long as you contribute to the

1381
01:10:34,493 --> 01:10:37,333
Speaker 4: thousand important two per year. And it may not seem

1382
01:10:37,573 --> 01:10:40,653
Speaker 4: like a lot, but when you start adding that into

1383
01:10:40,693 --> 01:10:44,053
Speaker 4: a time factor, that adds up to quite amount of

1384
01:10:44,053 --> 01:10:47,533
Speaker 4: money over the long term if you're in your twenties, right,

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01:10:47,853 --> 01:10:49,733
Speaker 4: and you don't want to be in a situation where

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01:10:49,733 --> 01:10:52,013
Speaker 4: you're not maximizing every dollar that you can get.

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01:10:52,453 --> 01:10:55,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's the classic compound interesting, right,

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01:10:55,733 --> 01:10:58,893
Speaker 3: But it's funny if you think about investments, like, there

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01:10:58,973 --> 01:11:02,253
Speaker 3: is no investment on earth that is guaranteed to give

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01:11:02,253 --> 01:11:05,293
Speaker 3: you a fifty percent return as safely as this.

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01:11:05,453 --> 01:11:08,813
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, you know, and it's free money. And the

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01:11:08,893 --> 01:11:10,693
Speaker 4: thing I always they love about Qui Saper is a

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01:11:10,693 --> 01:11:15,093
Speaker 4: compulsory kind of locks and nature of it, which you know,

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01:11:15,733 --> 01:11:17,493
Speaker 4: you know, adds a lot of value when you think

1395
01:11:17,533 --> 01:11:19,933
Speaker 4: about the long term and when you get to know

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01:11:20,093 --> 01:11:22,773
Speaker 4: the sixty five age where you can get those funds

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01:11:22,773 --> 01:11:25,533
Speaker 4: that accumulated over time. And Albert Einstein talked about it

1398
01:11:25,573 --> 01:11:28,493
Speaker 4: compounding interesting and aped wonder of the world. You know,

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01:11:28,533 --> 01:11:31,253
Speaker 4: so money does significantly grow over time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's surprising to me that anyone would miss this.

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01:11:34,533 --> 01:11:36,173
Speaker 3: But do people miss it a new experience?

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01:11:36,893 --> 01:11:37,053
Speaker 2: Oh?

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01:11:37,133 --> 01:11:37,533
Speaker 17: Yeah, they do.

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01:11:37,613 --> 01:11:40,293
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, sometimes it's a case of

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01:11:40,333 --> 01:11:43,093
Speaker 4: people not really understanding it might be then going oh,

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01:11:43,133 --> 01:11:44,773
Speaker 4: what it's from me? Five hundred and twenty one dollars,

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01:11:44,813 --> 01:11:47,373
Speaker 4: whereas I go, I understand the power of that over time,

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01:11:47,773 --> 01:11:51,093
Speaker 4: and you know, sometimes as they just you know, it's

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01:11:51,173 --> 01:11:53,293
Speaker 4: they forget about. That's the other big thing, because I

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01:11:53,333 --> 01:11:55,613
Speaker 4: do you come across people that kind of what they

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01:11:55,653 --> 01:11:58,773
Speaker 4: do is there. They may be self employed, so they

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01:11:58,973 --> 01:12:01,573
Speaker 4: put the money in. They have to contribute themselves rather

1413
01:12:01,573 --> 01:12:03,853
Speaker 4: than through you've been an employee, and they might go,

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01:12:03,893 --> 01:12:05,773
Speaker 4: oh well, I'll just put the lump sum in these year,

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01:12:05,813 --> 01:12:08,013
Speaker 4: whereas my experiences is you better to do that on

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01:12:08,053 --> 01:12:11,893
Speaker 4: a monthly basis because then you know for sure that

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01:12:12,053 --> 01:12:13,973
Speaker 4: you know, you put enough money in to get that

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01:12:14,013 --> 01:12:15,133
Speaker 4: free government contribution.

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01:12:15,293 --> 01:12:18,733
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right. So Lance's flicked se message this morning

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01:12:18,733 --> 01:12:21,653
Speaker 3: to say, if I deposit one thousand and forty two

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01:12:21,653 --> 01:12:23,613
Speaker 3: into my kids key, we save it. Do they get

1422
01:12:23,613 --> 01:12:25,693
Speaker 3: the government contribution even if they're not working.

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01:12:26,533 --> 01:12:29,693
Speaker 4: No, unless they're over eighteen, which they're not really a

1424
01:12:29,773 --> 01:12:33,013
Speaker 4: kid by then, so you only get that become eighteen.

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01:12:33,293 --> 01:12:35,453
Speaker 3: But if you're not working and you are over the

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01:12:35,453 --> 01:12:38,413
Speaker 3: age of eighteen and you and you contribute that minimum,

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01:12:38,413 --> 01:12:41,253
Speaker 3: you do get the government contribution, right.

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01:12:41,533 --> 01:12:44,973
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know, and to give in again and

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01:12:44,973 --> 01:12:46,773
Speaker 4: if people dest it's an a lot of money. But

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01:12:46,813 --> 01:12:49,493
Speaker 4: if I don't talking about my CUBSA because I'm self deployed,

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01:12:49,613 --> 01:12:53,333
Speaker 4: I've only ever put the minimum in. So that's two

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01:12:53,373 --> 01:12:57,853
Speaker 4: thousand and seven as an example. You know, am start

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01:12:57,973 --> 01:13:00,093
Speaker 4: king Saver. Like the first month that it was that

1434
01:13:00,213 --> 01:13:02,333
Speaker 4: was started. You know, I've got like seventy five thousand

1435
01:13:02,373 --> 01:13:03,493
Speaker 4: dollars for in my cubsabor.

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01:13:03,573 --> 01:13:03,813
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:13:04,013 --> 01:13:06,013
Speaker 4: You know, and that's by putting one thousand and forty

1438
01:13:06,013 --> 01:13:09,693
Speaker 4: two per getting the gun from contribution albeit the first

1439
01:13:10,173 --> 01:13:12,133
Speaker 4: crying up top you head about five or so five

1440
01:13:12,253 --> 01:13:14,373
Speaker 4: seven years, you've got to set the day next to

1441
01:13:14,453 --> 01:13:17,293
Speaker 4: dollars a dollar to twenty and forty two, whereas now

1442
01:13:17,293 --> 01:13:20,093
Speaker 4: it's obviously they paid fifty cents on the dollar.

1443
01:13:20,453 --> 01:13:21,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty amazing.

1444
01:13:21,853 --> 01:13:21,973
Speaker 7: Eh.

1445
01:13:22,053 --> 01:13:24,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's that's an important point. So I'll tell

1446
01:13:24,333 --> 01:13:28,533
Speaker 3: you what I do. I have my superannuation thing, and

1447
01:13:29,373 --> 01:13:31,893
Speaker 3: my work has a scheme. They always had a scheme

1448
01:13:31,893 --> 01:13:34,053
Speaker 3: that was set up kind of independently the key we saver.

1449
01:13:34,493 --> 01:13:36,373
Speaker 3: So what I do is I do the work scheme,

1450
01:13:37,213 --> 01:13:39,973
Speaker 3: but then in addition to that, I do the one

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01:13:39,973 --> 01:13:41,693
Speaker 3: thousand and forty two dollars Because like I said, I'm

1452
01:13:41,693 --> 01:13:43,733
Speaker 3: always just like our fifty percent return, thank you very much.

1453
01:13:43,773 --> 01:13:47,053
Speaker 3: Plus whatever game you get. Yeah, so it just seems

1454
01:13:47,093 --> 01:13:49,173
Speaker 3: like an absolute no brainer. But one of those things

1455
01:13:49,173 --> 01:13:50,453
Speaker 3: you do have to get sordered right now.

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01:13:51,333 --> 01:13:53,213
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, that's fine. And you know, it's like a

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01:13:53,213 --> 01:13:54,533
Speaker 4: lot of things in life. You know, We've got a

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01:13:54,533 --> 01:13:56,413
Speaker 4: great long list of things we need to kind of

1459
01:13:56,573 --> 01:13:58,333
Speaker 4: do in our in our world, right, we just need

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01:13:58,373 --> 01:14:00,773
Speaker 4: to make it important enough that we remember to actually

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01:14:00,813 --> 01:14:01,133
Speaker 4: do it.

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01:14:01,293 --> 01:14:03,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's great advice. Thank you so much. Lisa.

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01:14:04,253 --> 01:14:06,613
Speaker 3: That is Lisa Dudson. You can find her, of course

1464
01:14:06,653 --> 01:14:10,173
Speaker 3: at akimen dot co dot MZ. It is nine minutes

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01:14:10,213 --> 01:14:11,133
Speaker 3: to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with still Shop free accessories this winter at still Shop.

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01:14:16,253 --> 01:14:19,093
Speaker 3: Climb passes our man in the garden, Hey rude.

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01:14:19,413 --> 01:14:21,133
Speaker 2: Hey Jack, not so much in the garden.

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01:14:21,293 --> 01:14:22,173
Speaker 22: I'm in the forest.

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01:14:22,453 --> 01:14:25,573
Speaker 3: Ah, that sounds pretty good. That's where you like to be, right.

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01:14:26,173 --> 01:14:27,693
Speaker 2: That's exactly what my place is.

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01:14:27,813 --> 01:14:28,293
Speaker 3: That's right.

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01:14:28,693 --> 01:14:31,973
Speaker 22: Hey, did you by any chance notice a couple of

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01:14:31,973 --> 01:14:35,733
Speaker 22: weeks ago that the New Zealand Arbory Cultural Association did

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01:14:35,813 --> 01:14:38,533
Speaker 22: a Tree of the Year competition and it was won

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01:14:38,693 --> 01:14:43,733
Speaker 22: by a Northern rata in Carimea ye on the other

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01:14:43,773 --> 01:14:44,413
Speaker 22: side of your parents.

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01:14:44,733 --> 01:14:46,373
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful, right.

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01:14:47,053 --> 01:14:47,973
Speaker 2: Have you seen the picture.

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01:14:48,053 --> 01:14:50,533
Speaker 3: I've seen the picture. It is just absolutely gorgeous. I

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01:14:50,533 --> 01:14:53,053
Speaker 3: mean that whole coastline. I mean, I've just I'm a

1482
01:14:53,133 --> 01:14:56,053
Speaker 3: completely complete pathetic softy for that part of the part

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01:14:56,053 --> 01:14:58,973
Speaker 3: of the world, the sort of northwest of the South Island.

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01:14:58,973 --> 01:15:01,693
Speaker 3: But it is that. The photo is gorgeous.

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01:15:01,853 --> 01:15:02,933
Speaker 2: Isn't it beautiful? Yeah?

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01:15:02,933 --> 01:15:05,653
Speaker 22: So I think Libby's got it on the website, so people,

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01:15:05,653 --> 01:15:07,213
Speaker 22: if you haven't seen it, you can ever look at that.

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01:15:07,493 --> 01:15:09,893
Speaker 3: But now we should say that there's something that really

1489
01:15:09,933 --> 01:15:12,973
Speaker 3: distinguishes that the tree in the photograph isn't there.

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01:15:13,493 --> 01:15:16,093
Speaker 22: It is because it has kind of looks like two

1491
01:15:16,213 --> 01:15:18,653
Speaker 22: trunks and they are ordered in such a way that

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01:15:18,693 --> 01:15:22,493
Speaker 22: it looks as if the tree is walking in high heels,

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01:15:22,613 --> 01:15:23,493
Speaker 22: no doubt.

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01:15:24,493 --> 01:15:26,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a really good description. It does

1495
01:15:26,253 --> 01:15:28,373
Speaker 3: look like that. Yeah, it does look like that.

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01:15:28,853 --> 01:15:29,493
Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 22: So, first of all, a little story about this rata.

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01:15:32,733 --> 01:15:35,173
Speaker 22: This is the Northern rata that occurs in the north

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Speaker 22: of the or in the Northern Island and the north

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01:15:37,573 --> 01:15:40,133
Speaker 22: of the South Island. It's well, actually, by the way,

1501
01:15:40,173 --> 01:15:42,013
Speaker 22: it's one of those trees that can be come up

1502
01:15:42,053 --> 01:15:46,333
Speaker 22: to one thousand years old. It's huge and tall as

1503
01:15:46,413 --> 01:15:49,933
Speaker 22: so it's a fabulous thing. But it's a myrtle, so

1504
01:15:50,013 --> 01:15:52,893
Speaker 22: it belongs to the group of Paul Takawa. It belongs

1505
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:55,813
Speaker 22: to the climbing ratas and the bikes Rata and all

1506
01:15:55,813 --> 01:15:59,053
Speaker 22: that sort of stuff. But this particular northern Rata is

1507
01:15:59,133 --> 01:16:02,653
Speaker 22: quite an amazing tree because it is kind of like

1508
01:16:02,733 --> 01:16:06,973
Speaker 22: an epiphyte, which means it lives or starts life living

1509
01:16:07,053 --> 01:16:11,613
Speaker 22: on other trees, which I think is pretty cool. So yeah,

1510
01:16:11,693 --> 01:16:13,973
Speaker 22: that's how that works. And then what happens is when

1511
01:16:14,093 --> 01:16:16,973
Speaker 22: when it starts to germinate somewhere from a leaf or

1512
01:16:17,013 --> 01:16:20,253
Speaker 22: a branch or whatever from another it's from a host tree,

1513
01:16:20,493 --> 01:16:24,253
Speaker 22: it sends down roots down that literally a number of

1514
01:16:24,373 --> 01:16:28,853
Speaker 22: roots downwards to the ground, and it sends the leaves

1515
01:16:29,013 --> 01:16:32,213
Speaker 22: up the canopy of the of the host tree as well.

1516
01:16:32,573 --> 01:16:36,093
Speaker 22: And then of course finally at the end the roots

1517
01:16:36,773 --> 01:16:40,453
Speaker 22: trees of this rather get into the soil and finally

1518
01:16:40,533 --> 01:16:43,253
Speaker 22: can feed off the soil the nitrogen, the posphates and

1519
01:16:43,253 --> 01:16:45,973
Speaker 22: all that sort of stuff, and then they start really growing.

1520
01:16:46,093 --> 01:16:50,893
Speaker 22: It's absolutely wonderful. Now one of those roots becomes dorminant,

1521
01:16:51,573 --> 01:16:55,453
Speaker 22: dormant dominant, sorry not dormant dominant, and that is the

1522
01:16:55,493 --> 01:16:58,173
Speaker 22: one that actually makes that tree really start to put

1523
01:16:58,213 --> 01:17:02,293
Speaker 22: the passon to grow up and become old. Now what

1524
01:17:02,413 --> 01:17:04,613
Speaker 22: happened here is we've actually had to go with a

1525
01:17:04,653 --> 01:17:08,733
Speaker 22: couple of guys like Bread and Stephen King, old sort

1526
01:17:08,733 --> 01:17:12,453
Speaker 22: of old mates of arboris to see how this thing

1527
01:17:12,613 --> 01:17:15,653
Speaker 22: actually became a walking tree, what it came from, how

1528
01:17:15,653 --> 01:17:19,093
Speaker 22: did how did that work? And they have a feeling

1529
01:17:19,173 --> 01:17:25,013
Speaker 22: that this one basically got on a lean and needed to,

1530
01:17:25,493 --> 01:17:30,093
Speaker 22: if you like, redress itself with another trunk to have

1531
01:17:30,253 --> 01:17:32,773
Speaker 22: its own balance back. I think that it's such a

1532
01:17:32,893 --> 01:17:36,893
Speaker 22: clever trick. So this this tree looked after its own self.

1533
01:17:37,213 --> 01:17:39,213
Speaker 22: And the cool thing is, if you look very carefully

1534
01:17:39,213 --> 01:17:42,253
Speaker 22: on the bottom of the left leg, you'll see another

1535
01:17:42,413 --> 01:17:46,613
Speaker 22: green tree taking root, and that, believe it or not,

1536
01:17:46,773 --> 01:17:50,373
Speaker 22: is a podokawa uses that rata to grow up.

1537
01:17:50,773 --> 01:17:54,173
Speaker 3: Isn't it this so clever? Yeah? Okay, So we're going

1538
01:17:54,213 --> 01:17:57,453
Speaker 3: to make sure this photo is up at news so

1539
01:17:57,493 --> 01:18:00,533
Speaker 3: everyone can see exactly what we're talking about. It's utterly gorgeous.

1540
01:18:01,093 --> 01:18:02,813
Speaker 3: Believe that they can live for like maybe a thousand

1541
01:18:02,893 --> 01:18:04,093
Speaker 3: years a northern rata.

1542
01:18:04,133 --> 01:18:06,253
Speaker 22: There you are, yes, and don't forget I put it.

1543
01:18:06,573 --> 01:18:11,173
Speaker 22: I've put a couple of wonderful, wonderful email addresses there

1544
01:18:11,173 --> 01:18:13,933
Speaker 22: already call it websites on it if you're interested in

1545
01:18:13,933 --> 01:18:14,453
Speaker 22: the streets.

1546
01:18:14,453 --> 01:18:15,013
Speaker 2: It's brilliant.

1547
01:18:15,053 --> 01:18:16,893
Speaker 3: Thank you so much, rud. We will catch you again

1548
01:18:17,053 --> 01:18:19,813
Speaker 3: very soon. Road climb past in the garden. It's almost

1549
01:18:19,853 --> 01:18:22,493
Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. News is next on Newstalks dB.

1550
01:18:24,693 --> 01:18:28,453
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Day keeping the conversation going through

1551
01:18:28,453 --> 01:18:31,653
Speaker 1: the weekend with depure dot cot once it for high

1552
01:18:31,773 --> 01:18:57,453
Speaker 1: quality supplements used talks by News.

1553
01:18:57,493 --> 01:18:59,853
Speaker 3: Heala, good morning, welcome to news talks it b you

1554
01:18:59,893 --> 01:19:02,173
Speaker 3: would Jack time through the twelve o'clock. The bad news

1555
01:19:02,293 --> 01:19:05,293
Speaker 3: is that I've upset Sue this morning. I've upset Sue.

1556
01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:08,453
Speaker 3: Why well? The Super Rugby finals on and despite having

1557
01:19:08,693 --> 01:19:12,853
Speaker 3: lived for quite a long time in the nine, quite

1558
01:19:12,973 --> 01:19:16,533
Speaker 3: a long time in Auckland, there is no New Zealand

1559
01:19:16,613 --> 01:19:19,213
Speaker 3: Super Rugby team that I want to see win Super

1560
01:19:19,293 --> 01:19:23,333
Speaker 3: Rugby less than the Blues. It took me a while

1561
01:19:23,373 --> 01:19:24,933
Speaker 3: to get there. I think it's just a this is

1562
01:19:24,933 --> 01:19:27,693
Speaker 3: just part of being a Crusaders fan. I think as

1563
01:19:27,773 --> 01:19:31,533
Speaker 3: part of growing up in Canterbury. You just Canterbury and

1564
01:19:31,573 --> 01:19:34,293
Speaker 3: Auckland were always the kind of arch nemeses, and so

1565
01:19:34,813 --> 01:19:38,053
Speaker 3: therefore it's kind of for whatever reason ingrained in me,

1566
01:19:38,453 --> 01:19:40,373
Speaker 3: I want to see the Blues lose tonight. I want

1567
01:19:40,413 --> 01:19:43,053
Speaker 3: to see the Chiefs get up at Eden Park. Anyway,

1568
01:19:43,173 --> 01:19:45,933
Speaker 3: Sue's not happy, she says, Jack, you chose to live here,

1569
01:19:46,093 --> 01:19:48,373
Speaker 3: the Blues should be your second team. We might have

1570
01:19:48,413 --> 01:19:52,293
Speaker 3: to revoke your Auckland visa. Sorry, Sue. The game, of course,

1571
01:19:52,373 --> 01:19:54,413
Speaker 3: kicks off just after seven this evening. At the moment,

1572
01:19:54,453 --> 01:19:57,493
Speaker 3: the Blues are the Brookies' favorites, but we're going to

1573
01:19:57,533 --> 01:19:59,853
Speaker 3: catch up with Jason Pine very shortly get his thoughts

1574
01:19:59,933 --> 01:20:02,933
Speaker 3: on that clash, as well as the Warriors, who are

1575
01:20:02,933 --> 01:20:06,133
Speaker 3: playing at five this evening. So once again, fantastic weekend

1576
01:20:06,213 --> 01:20:09,333
Speaker 3: is man, This is just it's such a good time

1577
01:20:09,373 --> 01:20:11,973
Speaker 3: of ye for sports fans. Get up at one o'clock

1578
01:20:12,013 --> 01:20:15,173
Speaker 3: in the morning, watch three European football games, catch up

1579
01:20:15,213 --> 01:20:18,013
Speaker 3: on some of the Copper America highlights. Maybe then you've

1580
01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:20,293
Speaker 3: got the Super Rugby Final on the NRL as well.

1581
01:20:20,533 --> 01:20:23,613
Speaker 3: The Netball SUPERB right now is eight minutes past eleven.

1582
01:20:23,733 --> 01:20:27,293
Speaker 3: Jack team and time to catch up with our sustainability expert,

1583
01:20:27,493 --> 01:20:30,013
Speaker 3: Kate Hall aka Ethically.

1584
01:20:29,653 --> 01:20:31,813
Speaker 7: Kate, Hey k good morning.

1585
01:20:31,853 --> 01:20:35,013
Speaker 3: What okay, So this morning we're talking about how to

1586
01:20:35,053 --> 01:20:38,813
Speaker 3: set up an efficient waste system in your home and

1587
01:20:38,893 --> 01:20:41,093
Speaker 3: I had to pause for a moment and get out

1588
01:20:41,173 --> 01:20:43,133
Speaker 3: my hand and count on my fingers how many different

1589
01:20:43,173 --> 01:20:45,933
Speaker 3: bins we have at our place? So what would you say?

1590
01:20:46,013 --> 01:20:47,133
Speaker 3: Off the top of your head? Do you know how

1591
01:20:47,173 --> 01:20:48,493
Speaker 3: many bins you've got at your place?

1592
01:20:51,653 --> 01:20:51,853
Speaker 17: Yes?

1593
01:20:52,133 --> 01:20:54,333
Speaker 3: Yep, And by this I mean like a rubbish bin,

1594
01:20:55,453 --> 01:20:58,733
Speaker 3: you know, like a food scrape spent different receptacles. Yeah, exactly.

1595
01:20:58,893 --> 01:21:00,173
Speaker 3: So how many? How many have you got?

1596
01:21:01,533 --> 01:21:01,853
Speaker 13: Five?

1597
01:21:03,693 --> 01:21:04,413
Speaker 3: I've got four?

1598
01:21:05,253 --> 01:21:05,533
Speaker 5: Four?

1599
01:21:05,613 --> 01:21:09,013
Speaker 13: Oh okay, so I want to know what your four are?

1600
01:21:09,213 --> 01:21:12,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so my four, I've got your rubbish bin,

1601
01:21:13,213 --> 01:21:18,373
Speaker 3: recycling bin. Yep, food scraps and soft plastics. Okay, what

1602
01:21:18,453 --> 01:21:19,093
Speaker 3: am I missing?

1603
01:21:19,413 --> 01:21:19,813
Speaker 13: Nice?

1604
01:21:20,573 --> 01:21:21,013
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1605
01:21:21,053 --> 01:21:24,173
Speaker 13: So, actually, now I think about that, I probably have about.

1606
01:21:23,853 --> 01:21:32,013
Speaker 3: Eight one bin off. K that's pretty decent.

1607
01:21:32,093 --> 01:21:35,293
Speaker 13: But okay, well I didn't do my counting right Yeah,

1608
01:21:36,333 --> 01:21:38,213
Speaker 13: So okay, so what do you say? So the ones

1609
01:21:38,253 --> 01:21:38,613
Speaker 13: you said?

1610
01:21:38,733 --> 01:21:38,933
Speaker 2: Yep?

1611
01:21:38,973 --> 01:21:43,693
Speaker 13: Great, so waste to landfill. Also, I don't know if

1612
01:21:43,693 --> 01:21:47,133
Speaker 13: you've been lined but mine isn't because if you hear

1613
01:21:47,133 --> 01:21:49,413
Speaker 13: about all the different other bins that I put stuff,

1614
01:21:49,413 --> 01:21:51,173
Speaker 13: you don't need a bin liner because it's not.

1615
01:21:53,293 --> 01:21:55,653
Speaker 3: Okay, and one of.

1616
01:21:55,293 --> 01:21:57,213
Speaker 13: We can work on that. Hey, it's good. This is

1617
01:21:57,613 --> 01:21:59,493
Speaker 13: room for improvement. That's that's always true.

1618
01:21:59,533 --> 01:21:59,933
Speaker 3: It's true.

1619
01:22:00,293 --> 01:22:05,293
Speaker 13: Yeah, So yeah, rubbish bin recycling, and we know that

1620
01:22:05,333 --> 01:22:08,413
Speaker 13: we can only put an number one, two and five.

1621
01:22:08,573 --> 01:22:11,653
Speaker 13: So that's your curb side recycling, right, So we have

1622
01:22:11,813 --> 01:22:16,373
Speaker 13: different bins that we take to our local recycling center

1623
01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:19,933
Speaker 13: because curb side only takes a certain amount of things.

1624
01:22:20,333 --> 01:22:23,573
Speaker 13: But that doesn't mean that there's other things we probably

1625
01:22:23,653 --> 01:22:26,293
Speaker 13: have in your life that you could take from your

1626
01:22:26,293 --> 01:22:28,933
Speaker 13: waist bin and actually take them to a local recycling center.

1627
01:22:29,733 --> 01:22:34,053
Speaker 13: So that's so that's that's so we've got waste recycling

1628
01:22:34,373 --> 01:22:37,533
Speaker 13: compost as we know, soft flassics, we have soft plast

1629
01:22:37,533 --> 01:22:41,373
Speaker 13: six are getting clean and dry. And we now bend

1630
01:22:41,373 --> 01:22:44,173
Speaker 13: that we take to the recycling center has all the lids.

1631
01:22:44,253 --> 01:22:47,053
Speaker 13: So you can't put any lids into your curb side,

1632
01:22:47,213 --> 01:22:50,813
Speaker 13: not even ice from plink container lid Nope, not a

1633
01:22:51,053 --> 01:22:53,733
Speaker 13: no wine lids, no, you know, the lid on your

1634
01:22:54,453 --> 01:22:55,653
Speaker 13: orange juice not.

1635
01:22:58,613 --> 01:23:03,973
Speaker 3: Contain lid. No, you can't know, like it's mainly just

1636
01:23:03,973 --> 01:23:06,413
Speaker 3: stuff you can't put in their A.

1637
01:23:06,493 --> 01:23:09,333
Speaker 13: Yes, well, we have to think about the infrastructure that

1638
01:23:10,493 --> 01:23:12,813
Speaker 13: I know. It is sad because we do. We have

1639
01:23:13,053 --> 01:23:16,013
Speaker 13: like hundreds of different materials and obviously we can only

1640
01:23:16,053 --> 01:23:20,493
Speaker 13: recycle certain certain ones and New Zealand but you can't

1641
01:23:20,533 --> 01:23:23,693
Speaker 13: have so let's because of ice cream container lid. Unfortunately,

1642
01:23:23,693 --> 01:23:29,173
Speaker 13: the technology that the sorting recycling machines often recognize that

1643
01:23:29,213 --> 01:23:32,573
Speaker 13: as paper and then it gets put into a you know,

1644
01:23:32,613 --> 01:23:37,573
Speaker 13: the paper recycling and that contaminates a paper waste stream.

1645
01:23:38,053 --> 01:23:40,133
Speaker 13: So that's why lids have been taken out because they

1646
01:23:40,173 --> 01:23:43,253
Speaker 13: cause all sorts of issues with our sorting machinery. But

1647
01:23:43,573 --> 01:23:46,653
Speaker 13: your local recycling center very likely all take them. So

1648
01:23:47,573 --> 01:23:50,013
Speaker 13: we have a container for our lids. So there's a

1649
01:23:50,093 --> 01:23:52,933
Speaker 13: you know, particular yogurt that Tim loves, and there's this

1650
01:23:53,693 --> 01:23:56,173
Speaker 13: medium sized black lids, so we have a lot of

1651
01:23:56,213 --> 01:24:00,453
Speaker 13: those there take them, So we did that. Yester actually

1652
01:24:00,573 --> 01:24:03,373
Speaker 13: went to our local recycling center. They often collect soft

1653
01:24:03,373 --> 01:24:05,093
Speaker 13: pastics too, so you can kind of take it all

1654
01:24:05,133 --> 01:24:05,533
Speaker 13: at once.

1655
01:24:06,453 --> 01:24:11,093
Speaker 3: Wh soft plastics, Yes, come on, are they are they

1656
01:24:11,133 --> 01:24:12,533
Speaker 3: going anywhere? That isn't a landsill.

1657
01:24:13,213 --> 01:24:16,613
Speaker 13: Well, I actually boycotted having a soft pestic I've only

1658
01:24:16,693 --> 01:24:19,813
Speaker 13: recently got a surf plastic recycling then at our house

1659
01:24:19,973 --> 01:24:23,493
Speaker 13: because I realized that actually, you know, we talk about

1660
01:24:23,493 --> 01:24:27,013
Speaker 13: recycling way too much. Then it deserves credit for because

1661
01:24:27,053 --> 01:24:29,373
Speaker 13: we need to reduce it from the get go. So

1662
01:24:29,453 --> 01:24:32,293
Speaker 13: I noticed that when I knew I had a selt recycling,

1663
01:24:32,413 --> 01:24:35,093
Speaker 13: you know, been at home, and yeah, it could be recycled,

1664
01:24:35,133 --> 01:24:38,293
Speaker 13: and yes, future posts take them, turning them into fence

1665
01:24:38,373 --> 01:24:42,173
Speaker 13: posts and use for different you know, veggie planted beds

1666
01:24:42,173 --> 01:24:44,453
Speaker 13: and stuff like that. But we need to reduce it

1667
01:24:44,493 --> 01:24:46,293
Speaker 13: from the get go because we just have too much,

1668
01:24:46,413 --> 01:24:50,093
Speaker 13: you know. So I noticed in my habits that I

1669
01:24:50,093 --> 01:24:52,573
Speaker 13: would be at the supermarket and I would buy more

1670
01:24:52,613 --> 01:24:55,413
Speaker 13: things than soft plastics. When I had a soft plastics bin,

1671
01:24:56,333 --> 01:24:57,093
Speaker 13: you know, it.

1672
01:24:57,013 --> 01:25:00,213
Speaker 3: Was like to get it or something.

1673
01:25:00,253 --> 01:25:03,893
Speaker 13: Eh, yeah, exactly. And so when I didn't collect my

1674
01:25:03,893 --> 01:25:07,893
Speaker 13: soft plastics, I would actually reduce my way. So sure

1675
01:25:07,933 --> 01:25:10,293
Speaker 13: then there'll be more suspects that's going to landfill, but

1676
01:25:10,573 --> 01:25:13,413
Speaker 13: reduction is key. So I kind of change my view

1677
01:25:13,413 --> 01:25:15,533
Speaker 13: on that recently, but yeah, we'll see how it goes.

1678
01:25:15,773 --> 01:25:21,133
Speaker 13: But my other interesting bins are one for clothing that

1679
01:25:21,333 --> 01:25:26,573
Speaker 13: just cannot be reused or reworn, or I kind of

1680
01:25:26,813 --> 01:25:29,493
Speaker 13: store that app and they use it to stuff cushions

1681
01:25:29,573 --> 01:25:30,333
Speaker 13: or footstool.

1682
01:25:31,293 --> 01:25:31,533
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1683
01:25:31,613 --> 01:25:34,373
Speaker 13: I made my parents a footstool actually stuff with actually

1684
01:25:34,373 --> 01:25:38,213
Speaker 13: a lot of the clothes from my late grandmother's wardrobe

1685
01:25:39,093 --> 01:25:42,853
Speaker 13: and meaningful so that they often, Yeah, I can I

1686
01:25:43,133 --> 01:25:46,093
Speaker 13: kind of, yeah, keep a little pile growing, and then

1687
01:25:46,133 --> 01:25:48,933
Speaker 13: I'll go and stuff and kind of repump up their footstool.

1688
01:25:49,653 --> 01:25:55,493
Speaker 13: So that helps. Batteries. There's been three fun I do

1689
01:25:55,653 --> 01:25:58,773
Speaker 13: just a little it's a little recceiplcal and it takes

1690
01:25:58,893 --> 01:26:02,653
Speaker 13: long to stuck up because we by tradules from Pale

1691
01:26:02,653 --> 01:26:05,493
Speaker 13: Blue now, so we can plug those in and charge

1692
01:26:05,533 --> 01:26:07,773
Speaker 13: them just with a cro usp.

1693
01:26:08,133 --> 01:26:10,453
Speaker 3: I always just take mine up to Bunnings, you know,

1694
01:26:11,693 --> 01:26:14,133
Speaker 3: because they've got the having a little ben's a good idea.

1695
01:26:14,253 --> 01:26:17,093
Speaker 13: Yeah, yes, yeah, just have a little spot. But there

1696
01:26:17,093 --> 01:26:20,053
Speaker 13: have been three rubbish truck fires in our local area

1697
01:26:20,133 --> 01:26:23,613
Speaker 13: recently because people put batteries in their rubbish bin. Yeah,

1698
01:26:23,653 --> 01:26:26,093
Speaker 13: so it's really a huge hazard of you know, it's

1699
01:26:26,173 --> 01:26:30,253
Speaker 13: terrible environmentally, but yeah, so batteries. I also have a

1700
01:26:30,333 --> 01:26:36,373
Speaker 13: bend for my returnable items, so like my toothpaste comes

1701
01:26:36,373 --> 01:26:39,933
Speaker 13: in a glass jar, and I gather those in a

1702
01:26:39,973 --> 01:26:42,053
Speaker 13: bind and then I can send them back to solid

1703
01:26:42,093 --> 01:26:45,013
Speaker 13: where I buy them from, and they will refill them.

1704
01:26:45,213 --> 01:26:48,053
Speaker 13: So I kind of same with my makeup from last

1705
01:26:48,453 --> 01:26:51,293
Speaker 13: so I kind of have is two bends for yeah,

1706
01:26:51,333 --> 01:26:54,213
Speaker 13: my makeup empties and my toothpaste empties that once those

1707
01:26:54,213 --> 01:26:57,093
Speaker 13: of them get filled, yeah, then I will send them

1708
01:26:57,093 --> 01:27:02,893
Speaker 13: back to them. So yeah, batteries, the reusables, clothes, compast,

1709
01:27:03,253 --> 01:27:08,053
Speaker 13: soft plastics, curbside recycling, local cool recycling, and rubbish. So

1710
01:27:08,093 --> 01:27:10,133
Speaker 13: that is ace actually you win.

1711
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:17,453
Speaker 3: I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is

1712
01:27:17,533 --> 01:27:20,813
Speaker 3: like kind of seriously impressive. It's funny though, way, Like

1713
01:27:21,093 --> 01:27:24,373
Speaker 3: I think a key for people who are in households

1714
01:27:24,373 --> 01:27:26,413
Speaker 3: where they're driving things is sometimes actually just making sure

1715
01:27:26,413 --> 01:27:28,693
Speaker 3: everyone's on the same page. Like I reckon. I went

1716
01:27:28,733 --> 01:27:31,413
Speaker 3: home to my wife right now and I said, can

1717
01:27:31,493 --> 01:27:34,893
Speaker 3: you recycle the lids from ice cream containers? And I'll

1718
01:27:34,893 --> 01:27:36,613
Speaker 3: be honest with you, ours is a house that gets

1719
01:27:36,613 --> 01:27:40,293
Speaker 3: through quite a bit of ice cream, I reckon. She

1720
01:27:40,333 --> 01:27:42,453
Speaker 3: would say, yeah, of course you can. You know, it's

1721
01:27:42,493 --> 01:27:43,973
Speaker 3: just one of the you know, stuff like that. Sometimes

1722
01:27:43,973 --> 01:27:46,053
Speaker 3: you just think, oh, for sure, but actually actually making

1723
01:27:46,053 --> 01:27:47,533
Speaker 3: sure that he runs on the same page with what

1724
01:27:47,573 --> 01:27:50,493
Speaker 3: you can and can't recycle, throw away soft basics, all

1725
01:27:50,533 --> 01:27:52,533
Speaker 3: that stuff and the right things for things is kind

1726
01:27:52,533 --> 01:27:52,933
Speaker 3: of vital.

1727
01:27:53,173 --> 01:27:56,973
Speaker 13: Yes, label things have instructions. When someone comes into my

1728
01:27:57,013 --> 01:27:58,773
Speaker 13: house and I know that they're new to my house

1729
01:27:58,813 --> 01:28:00,533
Speaker 13: and they might be there for a little while, I

1730
01:28:00,613 --> 01:28:03,853
Speaker 13: tell them about the runaway streams. Yeah, because you know,

1731
01:28:03,973 --> 01:28:06,693
Speaker 13: there's a talking point and they're clear, they know it's push.

1732
01:28:06,773 --> 01:28:10,533
Speaker 3: It's like I'm going to take yeah, yeah.

1733
01:28:10,413 --> 01:28:14,093
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, this is the induction home. I love so

1734
01:28:14,293 --> 01:28:16,893
Speaker 13: chatting about why you're doing it too, and not just

1735
01:28:16,973 --> 01:28:20,453
Speaker 13: forcing your household into it. Yeah, like having an open

1736
01:28:20,533 --> 01:28:22,853
Speaker 13: dialogue around hey, what could we do to be better?

1737
01:28:22,893 --> 01:28:24,333
Speaker 13: And yeah, divert things.

1738
01:28:24,653 --> 01:28:26,493
Speaker 3: That makes a lot of sense. Hey, thank you so much, Kate.

1739
01:28:26,533 --> 01:28:28,893
Speaker 3: We'll put all of Kate's advice there for setting up

1740
01:28:28,933 --> 01:28:32,173
Speaker 3: your waste streams at home on the news talks he'd

1741
01:28:32,213 --> 01:28:33,813
Speaker 3: be website. I've had a couple of texts to come through.

1742
01:28:33,933 --> 01:28:36,733
Speaker 3: Just at the end of just before eleven o'clock, we

1743
01:28:36,733 --> 01:28:39,933
Speaker 3: were talking about key we saver and the things you

1744
01:28:39,973 --> 01:28:42,893
Speaker 3: need to do in order to get the maximum government contribution.

1745
01:28:42,973 --> 01:28:44,333
Speaker 3: Of course, you got to do that by the end

1746
01:28:44,413 --> 01:28:46,413
Speaker 3: of June each year. And I've had a couple of

1747
01:28:46,413 --> 01:28:49,533
Speaker 3: texts through asking how the rules apply if you're over

1748
01:28:49,573 --> 01:28:51,613
Speaker 3: the age of sixty five. So I've looked it up

1749
01:28:51,613 --> 01:28:53,453
Speaker 3: for you on the ID website. I'm going to read

1750
01:28:53,453 --> 01:28:56,013
Speaker 3: it to your verbatim here. Okay, So if you joined

1751
01:28:56,093 --> 01:28:59,533
Speaker 3: key we Saver on or after the first of July

1752
01:28:59,653 --> 01:29:03,453
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, you can get the government contribution up until

1753
01:29:03,493 --> 01:29:06,213
Speaker 3: you turn sixty five. If you joined key we Save

1754
01:29:07,493 --> 01:29:11,053
Speaker 3: before the first of July twenty nineteen, you can get

1755
01:29:11,093 --> 01:29:14,613
Speaker 3: the government contribution up until you turn sixty five or

1756
01:29:15,133 --> 01:29:17,413
Speaker 3: have been a key we Save a member for five years,

1757
01:29:17,613 --> 01:29:20,533
Speaker 3: whichever is the later. I hope that clears things up

1758
01:29:20,573 --> 01:29:23,653
Speaker 3: for you. Right now, it is seventeen minutes past eleven.

1759
01:29:25,373 --> 01:29:29,613
Speaker 1: Travel with Wendy WU tours unique fully inclusive tours around

1760
01:29:29,653 --> 01:29:30,133
Speaker 1: the world.

1761
01:29:30,533 --> 01:29:33,733
Speaker 3: It is twenty minutes past eleven. On News Talks, he'd

1762
01:29:33,733 --> 01:29:36,733
Speaker 3: be Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent. He is a

1763
01:29:36,813 --> 01:29:39,533
Speaker 3: king can tab So I wonder if, like me, he's

1764
01:29:39,613 --> 01:29:40,973
Speaker 3: going to be cheering for the Chiefs come to the

1765
01:29:41,013 --> 01:29:43,773
Speaker 3: Super Rugby final at seven o'clock this evening. More than

1766
01:29:43,813 --> 01:29:44,333
Speaker 3: a mike.

1767
01:29:45,133 --> 01:29:45,853
Speaker 5: More than a jack.

1768
01:29:45,933 --> 01:29:49,253
Speaker 21: Yes, well, I didn't have much favorite thief swimming last weekend,

1769
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:50,613
Speaker 21: but I'm with them tonight.

1770
01:29:50,933 --> 01:29:51,693
Speaker 5: Ob Cheeks.

1771
01:29:51,773 --> 01:29:55,413
Speaker 3: No, I agree. It's funny because I I'll enjoy watching

1772
01:29:55,453 --> 01:29:57,173
Speaker 3: the game this evening, but don't you know, I don't

1773
01:29:57,173 --> 01:30:00,333
Speaker 3: have a dog in the fight, as it were, And

1774
01:30:00,853 --> 01:30:03,213
Speaker 3: I reckon if you were to rank the five Super

1775
01:30:03,293 --> 01:30:06,333
Speaker 3: Rugby teams in New Zealand, yeah, I think the chief

1776
01:30:06,453 --> 01:30:08,613
Speaker 3: and the Blues are probably the ones I'm less likely

1777
01:30:08,693 --> 01:30:11,493
Speaker 3: to It's basically the further you get from Canterbury, the

1778
01:30:11,573 --> 01:30:14,813
Speaker 3: less likely I am to support the team. Yeah, but no,

1779
01:30:14,893 --> 01:30:17,013
Speaker 3: I thought the Chiefs were great last weekend. Really, I

1780
01:30:17,053 --> 01:30:18,693
Speaker 3: thought they were great. And you know we've been talking

1781
01:30:18,733 --> 01:30:20,733
Speaker 3: about how they're kind of flying under the radar. I

1782
01:30:20,773 --> 01:30:22,773
Speaker 3: just thought they were. I thought they were fantastic, especially

1783
01:30:22,773 --> 01:30:25,773
Speaker 3: that first yes, fifteen minutes or so last weekend was stonking.

1784
01:30:25,813 --> 01:30:29,093
Speaker 3: So you cannot wait for the Super Rugby Final this evening.

1785
01:30:29,093 --> 01:30:31,253
Speaker 3: We'll be catching up with Jason Pine on that very shortly,

1786
01:30:31,333 --> 01:30:34,013
Speaker 3: but for now we are focusing on things across the ditch,

1787
01:30:34,133 --> 01:30:37,653
Speaker 3: the great eats and drinks on the Sunshine Coast and

1788
01:30:37,733 --> 01:30:43,413
Speaker 3: Australia's biggest thing, The Biggest Pineapple has just been freshly restored.

1789
01:30:44,373 --> 01:30:46,933
Speaker 21: Well it's not every day I'm invited to the ribbon

1790
01:30:46,973 --> 01:30:51,173
Speaker 21: cutting ceremony for a fiberglass fruit jack, but there.

1791
01:30:51,173 --> 01:30:53,053
Speaker 5: I was in town last week for.

1792
01:30:53,093 --> 01:30:56,933
Speaker 21: The grand reopening of the sixteen meter tall Pineapple. So

1793
01:30:57,773 --> 01:31:02,213
Speaker 21: this is considered the iconic Queen of Queensland Kitch and

1794
01:31:02,253 --> 01:31:05,013
Speaker 21: she looked so resplendent. I could do with a similar

1795
01:31:05,013 --> 01:31:07,453
Speaker 21: face lift with a couple ofs of marine paint.

1796
01:31:07,573 --> 01:31:07,813
Speaker 7: Jack.

1797
01:31:08,613 --> 01:31:12,093
Speaker 21: She's as old as me. She was birthed in nineteen

1798
01:31:12,213 --> 01:31:16,733
Speaker 21: seventy one as an agritourism attraction. Even Charles and Diana

1799
01:31:16,733 --> 01:31:19,933
Speaker 21: paid her a visit forty years ago. And I don't

1800
01:31:19,933 --> 01:31:22,573
Speaker 21: know how many Kiwis have stopped by the Big Pineapple

1801
01:31:22,613 --> 01:31:24,293
Speaker 21: over the decades, but I reckon.

1802
01:31:23,973 --> 01:31:26,173
Speaker 5: It would be hundreds of thousands.

1803
01:31:26,813 --> 01:31:30,533
Speaker 21: And on the nostalgic front, all of the old features

1804
01:31:30,533 --> 01:31:33,613
Speaker 21: are going to be back, the Pineapple Express Train, even

1805
01:31:33,693 --> 01:31:38,333
Speaker 21: the Pineapple pathways, which millions of visitors have.

1806
01:31:38,373 --> 01:31:39,853
Speaker 5: Devowed over the decades.

1807
01:31:41,253 --> 01:31:44,973
Speaker 21: Thing about the Big Pineapple Jack is that the reopening

1808
01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:49,693
Speaker 21: of her also just reinforces that the Sunshine Coast has

1809
01:31:49,973 --> 01:31:54,493
Speaker 21: so much stature as a powerhouse for premium local produce.

1810
01:31:54,813 --> 01:31:57,333
Speaker 21: I reckon one of the most satisfying holidays on the

1811
01:31:57,333 --> 01:32:01,853
Speaker 21: Sunshine Coast would be purely nching and sipping your way

1812
01:32:01,933 --> 01:32:02,693
Speaker 21: around the region.

1813
01:32:02,733 --> 01:32:04,733
Speaker 5: There is so much to check out.

1814
01:32:04,853 --> 01:32:07,693
Speaker 3: So where do you find pineapp apple parfei gin?

1815
01:32:10,333 --> 01:32:11,213
Speaker 5: It's next door.

1816
01:32:11,253 --> 01:32:14,733
Speaker 21: There is this great distillery called Sunshine and Suns and

1817
01:32:14,893 --> 01:32:18,293
Speaker 21: as a tribute to the famous neighbor, the craft distiller

1818
01:32:18,373 --> 01:32:23,933
Speaker 21: produces various spirits, including pineapple parpe gin. This ginjack tastes

1819
01:32:24,333 --> 01:32:27,733
Speaker 21: like a holiday yeah, and the cellar door actually whipped.

1820
01:32:27,413 --> 01:32:29,573
Speaker 5: Me up a Coast sunset cocktail.

1821
01:32:29,893 --> 01:32:33,053
Speaker 21: So what they do is they top the gin with ice,

1822
01:32:33,293 --> 01:32:37,213
Speaker 21: pineapple juice and a dash of grenadine. Hello holiday Heaven.

1823
01:32:37,293 --> 01:32:38,573
Speaker 21: You can try that one at home.

1824
01:32:39,013 --> 01:32:43,653
Speaker 5: But it's amazing. What else this distillery does.

1825
01:32:43,693 --> 01:32:47,293
Speaker 21: They pump out the most superb spicy RUMs and their

1826
01:32:47,413 --> 01:32:52,093
Speaker 21: vodka was most intriguing. Their vodka is distilled from surplus

1827
01:32:52,133 --> 01:32:56,293
Speaker 21: grapes and grape waste from the Barossa, So if you

1828
01:32:56,413 --> 01:32:59,453
Speaker 21: like your vodka produced sustainably, these guys knock it.

1829
01:32:59,453 --> 01:33:00,013
Speaker 7: Out of the park.

1830
01:33:00,133 --> 01:33:03,373
Speaker 3: Are very nice. And there's an indigenous distillery that scooping

1831
01:33:03,373 --> 01:33:04,493
Speaker 3: plenty of awards as well.

1832
01:33:05,333 --> 01:33:07,853
Speaker 5: Oh, this was such a stunning place to visit. Jack.

1833
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:11,893
Speaker 21: Yes, in Caloundra, I popped into beech Tree Distillery, another

1834
01:33:11,973 --> 01:33:15,253
Speaker 21: shining star in the Aussie craft scene and actually they

1835
01:33:15,253 --> 01:33:19,133
Speaker 21: are the nation's most awarded organic distillery. They have won

1836
01:33:19,333 --> 01:33:22,933
Speaker 21: gold at both the World Gin and World Vodka Awards

1837
01:33:23,293 --> 01:33:24,413
Speaker 21: in the last few months.

1838
01:33:24,493 --> 01:33:26,533
Speaker 5: Yeah, they really are a rock star.

1839
01:33:27,093 --> 01:33:29,613
Speaker 21: The thing about them at beech Tree it is the

1840
01:33:29,813 --> 01:33:34,773
Speaker 21: application of native botanicals which is their point of difference.

1841
01:33:34,813 --> 01:33:41,853
Speaker 21: So think lemon, myrtle, pepperberries, strawberry, garm, cuckadoo, plalm. And

1842
01:33:41,893 --> 01:33:46,133
Speaker 21: they also are sticklers for organic Queensland sugar cane, which

1843
01:33:46,253 --> 01:33:48,653
Speaker 21: they reckon and I would agree it seems to create

1844
01:33:48,693 --> 01:33:52,933
Speaker 21: a cleaner, crisper, smoother spirit.

1845
01:33:52,893 --> 01:33:57,133
Speaker 5: If you have that wildly grown sugar cane from across Queensland.

1846
01:33:57,173 --> 01:33:59,573
Speaker 5: So definitely check out beech Tree.

1847
01:33:59,613 --> 01:34:01,973
Speaker 3: What about craft breweries.

1848
01:34:02,333 --> 01:34:05,973
Speaker 21: Well, interestingly they are the king. They have more craft

1849
01:34:06,093 --> 01:34:09,933
Speaker 21: brewer per capita than any other region in Australia One

1850
01:34:10,093 --> 01:34:10,933
Speaker 21: Sunshine Coast.

1851
01:34:11,133 --> 01:34:13,493
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a cold one is never far away.

1852
01:34:14,813 --> 01:34:17,133
Speaker 21: There's two venues to put on your bingo card.

1853
01:34:17,533 --> 01:34:19,733
Speaker 5: Coulan Beach coat. They are a cracker.

1854
01:34:19,853 --> 01:34:24,813
Speaker 21: Check out the Raspberry says on it's like this semi

1855
01:34:24,933 --> 01:34:26,093
Speaker 21: tart fruit.

1856
01:34:25,893 --> 01:34:29,093
Speaker 5: Beer, very zesty, very refreshing on a hot day.

1857
01:34:29,453 --> 01:34:31,493
Speaker 21: And Moffatt Beach Brewing Barren Caloundra.

1858
01:34:31,613 --> 01:34:32,213
Speaker 5: If you like.

1859
01:34:32,293 --> 01:34:37,653
Speaker 21: IPA's the trilogy, Best Coast has scooped so many gongs.

1860
01:34:38,093 --> 01:34:43,133
Speaker 21: It is a resinous, full flavored, boozy Ipa best enjoyed

1861
01:34:43,133 --> 01:34:45,773
Speaker 21: with a dirty Bird Louisiana style of fried chicken burger.

1862
01:34:45,813 --> 01:34:49,133
Speaker 3: I have to say, yeah, we'll take your word for that.

1863
01:34:49,893 --> 01:34:52,333
Speaker 3: If there was, if there was like one restaurant not

1864
01:34:52,413 --> 01:34:54,613
Speaker 3: to miss out on on the Sunshine Coast, what would

1865
01:34:54,653 --> 01:34:55,053
Speaker 3: you say it is?

1866
01:34:56,013 --> 01:34:56,293
Speaker 2: Well?

1867
01:34:56,413 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 21: I took on board local knowledge and just south of Noosa,

1868
01:35:00,533 --> 01:35:04,653
Speaker 21: I scooted to Sunshine Beach, which is this snoozy under

1869
01:35:04,653 --> 01:35:08,333
Speaker 21: the radar beachside bolt for the seriously rich and famous.

1870
01:35:08,413 --> 01:35:12,573
Speaker 21: The real estate there jack unbelievable anyway. It's also home

1871
01:35:12,653 --> 01:35:16,453
Speaker 21: to a pine sized restaurant called humble On Jeeke Jade

1872
01:35:16,493 --> 01:35:19,613
Speaker 21: and Stacy are your delightful hosts. Stacey's actually from in

1873
01:35:19,733 --> 01:35:22,173
Speaker 21: the Cargol and it's easy to see why.

1874
01:35:22,053 --> 01:35:24,813
Speaker 5: The locals rave about this place. It's the sort of

1875
01:35:24,813 --> 01:35:25,373
Speaker 5: place you just.

1876
01:35:25,453 --> 01:35:28,533
Speaker 21: Roll up to and say feed me, and Middle Eastern

1877
01:35:28,693 --> 01:35:33,413
Speaker 21: influences sing out loud with lots of small plates offerings.

1878
01:35:34,853 --> 01:35:40,893
Speaker 21: Thank Turkish sausage with whipped feta, crispy zucchini flowers with

1879
01:35:41,013 --> 01:35:46,333
Speaker 21: parmesan honey and sumac. Everything feels exotic and escapist. I

1880
01:35:46,413 --> 01:35:50,293
Speaker 21: do love how a really good restaurant transports you, and

1881
01:35:50,493 --> 01:35:52,933
Speaker 21: this place nails it. And by the way, if you're

1882
01:35:53,093 --> 01:35:55,933
Speaker 21: drinking all day like me, whistle.

1883
01:35:55,613 --> 01:35:58,613
Speaker 5: Up the Turkish Delight soda. This is another Try this

1884
01:35:58,693 --> 01:36:02,573
Speaker 5: at home one, folks. It is a zero alcohol cocktail.

1885
01:36:02,653 --> 01:36:08,253
Speaker 5: It is simplistic brilliance. It is soda, rose water, lime

1886
01:36:09,013 --> 01:36:09,613
Speaker 5: and mint.

1887
01:36:10,413 --> 01:36:12,333
Speaker 3: Sounds quite simple in a way. I mean, yeah, the

1888
01:36:12,373 --> 01:36:14,413
Speaker 3: rose waters is a little bit complicated, but otherwise yeah,

1889
01:36:14,453 --> 01:36:15,173
Speaker 3: relatively simple.

1890
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:18,573
Speaker 21: You can buy the rose water I think Barkers for

1891
01:36:18,613 --> 01:36:22,333
Speaker 21: example rose water. Yeah, yeah, so just look for it

1892
01:36:22,373 --> 01:36:24,533
Speaker 21: on the supermarket. But it is such an easy drink

1893
01:36:24,653 --> 01:36:26,413
Speaker 21: and it really was the drink of the trip.

1894
01:36:26,533 --> 01:36:28,613
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, yeah, you could get you could get the

1895
01:36:28,613 --> 01:36:30,573
Speaker 3: Barker's version, or you could just do what I did

1896
01:36:30,613 --> 01:36:33,253
Speaker 3: and get Persian in laws because.

1897
01:36:33,773 --> 01:36:34,733
Speaker 5: Well there you go.

1898
01:36:35,453 --> 01:36:39,853
Speaker 3: The never far from from the cooking and the indoors.

1899
01:36:40,693 --> 01:36:42,733
Speaker 3: What about dinner with a view. Where's good?

1900
01:36:43,093 --> 01:36:46,133
Speaker 21: Well, I would say Tides restaurants and clowns, for it

1901
01:36:46,173 --> 01:36:48,453
Speaker 21: is hard to beat on that front, Jack, because if

1902
01:36:48,453 --> 01:36:52,373
Speaker 21: you go there just before sunrise from its purchase Tides,

1903
01:36:52,933 --> 01:36:55,013
Speaker 21: not only do you get that sweeping view of the

1904
01:36:55,133 --> 01:36:58,453
Speaker 21: esplanade and the waterfront, but gazed out west and you

1905
01:36:58,493 --> 01:37:01,893
Speaker 21: see the glasshouse mountains, and as the sun slums on

1906
01:37:01,933 --> 01:37:05,053
Speaker 21: the horizon, those glasshouse mountains take on.

1907
01:37:05,053 --> 01:37:06,133
Speaker 5: A treacle coat.

1908
01:37:06,413 --> 01:37:11,173
Speaker 21: Absolutely amazing that the coastal elements at Tides are also

1909
01:37:11,813 --> 01:37:14,053
Speaker 21: underpins by all of that amazing seafood.

1910
01:37:14,133 --> 01:37:16,733
Speaker 5: You tuck them to your Coral Coast Barra.

1911
01:37:16,573 --> 01:37:19,933
Speaker 21: Monday and your Malulah bar pawns and you think life

1912
01:37:20,013 --> 01:37:20,613
Speaker 21: is stupid.

1913
01:37:20,893 --> 01:37:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that sounds pretty good to me. I reckon, Hey,

1914
01:37:24,133 --> 01:37:27,053
Speaker 3: thank you so much. Enjoy the game this evening, and

1915
01:37:27,213 --> 01:37:29,173
Speaker 3: we will be in touch again very soon. That's our

1916
01:37:29,173 --> 01:37:31,933
Speaker 3: travel correspondent Mike Yardley for all of his tips on

1917
01:37:32,293 --> 01:37:36,213
Speaker 3: nothing and sipping your way around the Sunshine Coast. You

1918
01:37:36,253 --> 01:37:39,573
Speaker 3: can go to Newstalks heb dot co dot nz and

1919
01:37:39,653 --> 01:37:40,893
Speaker 3: it's just coming up to eleven.

1920
01:37:40,733 --> 01:37:48,573
Speaker 1: Thirty getting your weekends started. It's Saturday, morning with Jack

1921
01:37:48,653 --> 01:37:50,653
Speaker 1: team on news talks, ab.

1922
01:37:52,893 --> 01:37:59,613
Speaker 3: Clam Dreamer, dream.

1923
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:13,253
Speaker 23: Never See Yes Along long time.

1924
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Speaker 3: Used to exed me, you were Jack Tame. Before midday,

1925
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Speaker 3: we've got your book picks for this weekend. If you're

1926
01:38:22,093 --> 01:38:24,573
Speaker 3: looking just a curl up at home and have a

1927
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Speaker 3: cracking read, book review will be here very shortly with

1928
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Speaker 3: two fantastic reads to recommend. Right now, they time to

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Speaker 3: catch up with Jason Pine, who's behind the mac this

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Speaker 3: afternoon for a very very busy weekend sport. Good morning,

1931
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Speaker 3: hello Jack. Let's start off with Super Rugby. You obviously

1932
01:38:41,293 --> 01:38:43,173
Speaker 3: had a bit of a disappointing weekend. It's a keen

1933
01:38:43,333 --> 01:38:45,973
Speaker 3: hurricane supporter last weekend. How you feel about tonight?

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Speaker 24: I feel good about tonight. Actually, I look. If the

1935
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Speaker 24: hurricanes weren't clearly, i'd prefer that. But if they weren't,

1936
01:38:51,253 --> 01:38:53,973
Speaker 24: I'd be nervous as anything. Yeah, but now I've got

1937
01:38:54,013 --> 01:38:54,853
Speaker 24: no skin in this game.

1938
01:38:54,893 --> 01:38:58,133
Speaker 3: Now, now it's nice if they get a snow dog

1939
01:38:58,173 --> 01:38:59,613
Speaker 3: and the fine no skin in the game, it's kind

1940
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Speaker 3: of refreshing, eh.

1941
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Speaker 24: It is, so you can you can look forward to

1942
01:39:02,773 --> 01:39:04,693
Speaker 24: it and enjoy it tonight for what it is. Yeah,

1943
01:39:05,013 --> 01:39:07,333
Speaker 24: two pretty good rugby teams going at one another. We're

1944
01:39:07,333 --> 01:39:09,453
Speaker 24: going to have a new champion, of course, with you

1945
01:39:09,533 --> 01:39:11,573
Speaker 24: know the crusaderes having one. About the last million of

1946
01:39:11,613 --> 01:39:15,893
Speaker 24: these hasn't hasn't been in the Blues trophy captain since

1947
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Speaker 24: two thousand and three.

1948
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Speaker 3: I was thinking last night, jacket.

1949
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Speaker 24: Yeah, no Blues fan has ever put on Facebook were

1950
01:39:22,973 --> 01:39:26,413
Speaker 24: Super Rugby champions because the last time they had there

1951
01:39:26,533 --> 01:39:29,413
Speaker 24: was no Facebook. So yeah, that's that's how long since

1952
01:39:29,453 --> 01:39:32,173
Speaker 24: they had it. The Chiefs slightly more recently, but still

1953
01:39:32,213 --> 01:39:35,813
Speaker 24: twenty thirteen was their last Super Rugby title. So look,

1954
01:39:35,853 --> 01:39:40,053
Speaker 24: two really evenly matched teams. I've got the Blues as favorites,

1955
01:39:40,053 --> 01:39:42,133
Speaker 24: and I think most people have by virtue of a

1956
01:39:42,173 --> 01:39:44,693
Speaker 24: few things. But look, I think as a neutral, you,

1957
01:39:44,933 --> 01:39:46,933
Speaker 24: me and many others around the country, I think we're

1958
01:39:46,973 --> 01:39:50,533
Speaker 24: hoping for a fitting finale, terrific game of rugby, probably

1959
01:39:50,533 --> 01:39:53,173
Speaker 24: a close one decided by a couple of moments of

1960
01:39:53,213 --> 01:39:53,973
Speaker 24: brilliants hopefully.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally agree. I was saying earlier, how easily

1962
01:39:57,813 --> 01:40:02,013
Speaker 3: my household has slipped into football tournament mode. You changed

1963
01:40:02,053 --> 01:40:05,253
Speaker 3: bedtimes and wake up times and morning routines and everything,

1964
01:40:05,293 --> 01:40:08,173
Speaker 3: and the amount of time Lovision being watched before school,

1965
01:40:08,213 --> 01:40:09,693
Speaker 3: as you know, the sort of thing that would have

1966
01:40:09,693 --> 01:40:13,213
Speaker 3: horrified my mother. But it's been fantastic so far, hasn't it. Yeah,

1967
01:40:13,253 --> 01:40:13,893
Speaker 3: it really has.

1968
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Speaker 24: And you're right, it's not Take me takes me back

1969
01:40:16,973 --> 01:40:19,053
Speaker 24: to nineteen eighty two when the All Whites went to

1970
01:40:19,093 --> 01:40:22,173
Speaker 24: Spain for their very first World Cup and eleven year

1971
01:40:22,173 --> 01:40:24,973
Speaker 24: old me was watching games before heading off to school,

1972
01:40:25,093 --> 01:40:27,493
Speaker 24: you know, and we get that opportunity now with the

1973
01:40:27,493 --> 01:40:31,133
Speaker 24: time zones, et cetera. Yeah, it's actually pretty even, Jack.

1974
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Speaker 24: You know, no one's apart from the Germans, no one's

1975
01:40:33,613 --> 01:40:35,893
Speaker 24: really Germans. Yeah, apart from them, no one's really jumped

1976
01:40:35,933 --> 01:40:37,853
Speaker 24: out and said, look, I'm here to win this whole thing.

1977
01:40:37,893 --> 01:40:39,973
Speaker 24: Germany look really good. England have got a bit of

1978
01:40:40,013 --> 01:40:43,333
Speaker 24: work to do. Yeah, I'm just just loving it. And

1979
01:40:43,413 --> 01:40:45,653
Speaker 24: at the moment, the games come thick and fast. Soon

1980
01:40:45,693 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 24: we'll be into the knockout stages and then the really

1981
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:51,213
Speaker 24: big stuff arise. But yeah, it's good early morning viewing

1982
01:40:51,213 --> 01:40:54,293
Speaker 24: at the moment. And how about Marcos Stamin It's incredible. Yeah,

1983
01:40:54,293 --> 01:40:57,693
Speaker 24: I mean this guy, it's a name to remember. You've

1984
01:40:57,693 --> 01:40:59,453
Speaker 24: got to remember this name. He will be one of

1985
01:40:59,493 --> 01:41:01,933
Speaker 24: our one of I believe one of our great male

1986
01:41:01,973 --> 01:41:04,253
Speaker 24: footballers signing with Nottingham Forest.

1987
01:41:04,293 --> 01:41:05,613
Speaker 3: That's Chris Wood Club.

1988
01:41:05,653 --> 01:41:07,693
Speaker 24: Of course he's going to be loaned out to Prcurs

1989
01:41:07,773 --> 01:41:10,333
Speaker 24: for a year to continue his football development. But it

1990
01:41:10,333 --> 01:41:13,053
Speaker 24: would be no surprise to see Marco starmin It's playing

1991
01:41:13,053 --> 01:41:15,453
Speaker 24: in the Premier League in a couple of years alongside

1992
01:41:15,533 --> 01:41:17,453
Speaker 24: Chris Wood and maybe trying to get the ball past

1993
01:41:17,533 --> 01:41:21,213
Speaker 24: Alex Paulson in goal for Bournemouth. Sound New Zealand football

1994
01:41:21,253 --> 01:41:21,733
Speaker 24: fan at the money?

1995
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Speaker 3: It really is. Hey, So what's on the show this afternoon?

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Speaker 24: We'll cover off SUPERB obviously, but first up after midday

1997
01:41:26,453 --> 01:41:29,573
Speaker 24: Greg Barclay, Chair of the ICC. Big story during the

1998
01:41:29,573 --> 01:41:32,813
Speaker 24: week about Kane Williamson turning down a central contract with

1999
01:41:32,893 --> 01:41:36,413
Speaker 24: New Zealand Cricket, the ever changing, the shifting sands of

2000
01:41:36,933 --> 01:41:40,093
Speaker 24: global cricket, Where does everything fit and how does international

2001
01:41:40,093 --> 01:41:43,333
Speaker 24: cricket retain its relevance? These and other issues with Greg

2002
01:41:43,373 --> 01:41:44,533
Speaker 24: Barclay just after midday.

2003
01:41:44,653 --> 01:41:47,533
Speaker 3: Very good look forward to that, thank you sir. Yeah,

2004
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Speaker 3: enjoy the weekend. In massive afternoon of Sport Warriors five

2005
01:41:50,733 --> 01:41:53,213
Speaker 3: o'clock Super ap Final the course just after seven. Right

2006
01:41:53,253 --> 01:41:55,013
Speaker 3: now it is twenty five minutes to twelve.

2007
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Speaker 2: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

2008
01:41:58,373 --> 01:42:01,533
Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and Bepward on code dot

2009
01:42:01,653 --> 01:42:04,493
Speaker 1: Nz for high quality Supplements, used Talks NB.

2010
01:42:04,933 --> 01:42:08,373
Speaker 3: Two very different books to recommend This morning with our

2011
01:42:08,373 --> 01:42:11,013
Speaker 3: book reviewer Catherine Rains. So I feel looking for something

2012
01:42:11,093 --> 01:42:14,613
Speaker 3: good to read. Catherine is here now, Hey, Catherine, Morning Jack.

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Speaker 3: Let's begin with The Midnight Feast by Lucy Foley.

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Speaker 25: So this story is told from multiple perspectives, and those

2015
01:42:21,733 --> 01:42:25,333
Speaker 25: perspectives leads to feeling all the drama and twists, and

2016
01:42:25,373 --> 01:42:28,173
Speaker 25: the story itself centers around the manner this very ultra

2017
01:42:28,653 --> 01:42:32,373
Speaker 25: luxurious estate and Dorset in the UK, and it's designed

2018
01:42:32,373 --> 01:42:34,693
Speaker 25: to provide this escape for its very privileged guest. And

2019
01:42:34,733 --> 01:42:37,893
Speaker 25: it's owned by this woman called Francesca Woodland who hides

2020
01:42:38,013 --> 01:42:42,973
Speaker 25: very dark secrets under the sort of veneer of priestess likeness.

2021
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Speaker 25: And she's set to host this memorable summer Solster Feast.

2022
01:42:46,893 --> 01:42:49,973
Speaker 25: And her husband is an aspiring art architect called Owen,

2023
01:42:50,053 --> 01:42:53,573
Speaker 25: and he's kind of enchanted by this dream of facade

2024
01:42:53,613 --> 01:42:56,053
Speaker 25: that she and the illusion that she's created about herself,

2025
01:42:56,093 --> 01:42:58,893
Speaker 25: and he's got his own very dark secrets and about

2026
01:42:58,893 --> 01:43:02,173
Speaker 25: his past that could threaten their future together. And then

2027
01:43:02,213 --> 01:43:05,453
Speaker 25: as the some solstice starts to take place, her Francesca's

2028
01:43:05,453 --> 01:43:07,693
Speaker 25: plans are disrupted by the mystery guests from a pastor

2029
01:43:07,733 --> 01:43:10,813
Speaker 25: woman called Baala who's determined to confront a tragedy in

2030
01:43:10,853 --> 01:43:13,853
Speaker 25: her life. And there's this young kitchen hand Eddie who

2031
01:43:13,893 --> 01:43:16,693
Speaker 25: finds himself caught between the locals who are certing seeking

2032
01:43:16,733 --> 01:43:19,773
Speaker 25: retribution against the Manner's guests and his dedication to his

2033
01:43:19,853 --> 01:43:22,573
Speaker 25: new job and his dysfunctional family so ort to get

2034
01:43:22,573 --> 01:43:24,293
Speaker 25: all these different points of views are heard and their

2035
01:43:24,373 --> 01:43:26,493
Speaker 25: reasons for being at the Manner are revealed in this

2036
01:43:26,653 --> 01:43:29,773
Speaker 25: kind of veneer of opulent tranquility begins to crack, and

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01:43:30,213 --> 01:43:33,373
Speaker 25: chapter by chapter and person by person, and this tired

2038
01:43:33,413 --> 01:43:35,933
Speaker 25: of animosity among the locals who have been very unhappy

2039
01:43:35,933 --> 01:43:38,013
Speaker 25: because their lives have been cut off from the ancient

2040
01:43:38,053 --> 01:43:40,213
Speaker 25: forest and access to the beach. And it's the hottest

2041
01:43:40,213 --> 01:43:43,053
Speaker 25: summer on record, and so you just find yourself hooked

2042
01:43:43,093 --> 01:43:46,053
Speaker 25: and turning the pages faster to find out exactly who's

2043
01:43:46,093 --> 01:43:46,933
Speaker 25: happening and why.

2044
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Speaker 3: Very good, Okay, that's the Midnight Feast by Lucy Foldley.

2045
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Speaker 3: You've also read Southern Man by Greg Isles.

2046
01:43:53,693 --> 01:43:56,053
Speaker 25: So this is a real political thriller, and it takes

2047
01:43:56,093 --> 01:43:59,213
Speaker 25: this very deep look at racial tensions in this small

2048
01:43:59,213 --> 01:44:04,093
Speaker 25: Mississippi town called Bennionville, and there's been long simmering racial

2049
01:44:04,133 --> 01:44:07,973
Speaker 25: grievances and they ignite when these white of deputaries recklessly

2050
01:44:08,013 --> 01:44:10,813
Speaker 25: open fire during a hip hop festival and attended my

2051
01:44:11,013 --> 01:44:14,733
Speaker 25: mostly young blacks and killing several and wounding war including

2052
01:44:16,573 --> 01:44:19,813
Speaker 25: a woman that's one of the main characters, pen Cage.

2053
01:44:20,093 --> 01:44:24,053
Speaker 25: She's hurt and shot, and it becomes known as the

2054
01:44:24,093 --> 01:44:27,453
Speaker 25: Mission Hill massacre. And these demonstrations start to take over

2055
01:44:27,493 --> 01:44:29,933
Speaker 25: the city and protest and the National Guards there and

2056
01:44:30,373 --> 01:44:33,613
Speaker 25: homes are torched and a black mirror is beaten. And

2057
01:44:33,653 --> 01:44:35,973
Speaker 25: at the center of this is a character called pen Cage,

2058
01:44:36,013 --> 01:44:38,333
Speaker 25: who's an attorney who quit practicing so that he could

2059
01:44:38,333 --> 01:44:41,013
Speaker 25: spend his time writing. And his mother, Peggy, is dying

2060
01:44:41,013 --> 01:44:43,413
Speaker 25: of cancer and his daughter Annie, who was the girl

2061
01:44:43,413 --> 01:44:45,653
Speaker 25: that got shot at the hip hop festival, and so

2062
01:44:45,693 --> 01:44:48,453
Speaker 25: all of this controversy intermial and in then amongst that,

2063
01:44:48,533 --> 01:44:51,373
Speaker 25: as well as this other character called Robert E. Lee White,

2064
01:44:51,813 --> 01:44:54,773
Speaker 25: and he's the Southern War hero who sezes the public

2065
01:44:54,813 --> 01:44:57,893
Speaker 25: imagination as a third party presidential candidate, and he's done

2066
01:44:57,893 --> 01:45:00,813
Speaker 25: with the TikTok man that's really became famous first. And

2067
01:45:00,813 --> 01:45:04,733
Speaker 25: he's backed by this very eccentric Mississippi billinaire and he's

2068
01:45:04,773 --> 01:45:07,253
Speaker 25: writing the glory of his special for his record, and

2069
01:45:07,293 --> 01:45:11,133
Speaker 25: he's taking this massively unprecedented run at the White House,

2070
01:45:11,493 --> 01:45:14,733
Speaker 25: and he has this plan that is interesting, to say

2071
01:45:14,773 --> 01:45:17,733
Speaker 25: the least. And so you get this story rippling with

2072
01:45:18,133 --> 01:45:21,093
Speaker 25: racial tension and all sorts of things that are going

2073
01:45:21,093 --> 01:45:23,933
Speaker 25: on and this candidate and the burning plantations and the

2074
01:45:23,973 --> 01:45:27,533
Speaker 25: subplot and some very despicable characters with no legal or

2075
01:45:27,573 --> 01:45:31,973
Speaker 25: ethical boundaries and this just deteriorating situation. And the book's

2076
01:45:32,013 --> 01:45:34,533
Speaker 25: over nine hundred pages, so you got a lot of story.

2077
01:45:34,573 --> 01:45:37,253
Speaker 25: But you find yourself very caught up in this and

2078
01:45:37,333 --> 01:45:40,493
Speaker 25: it takes you into the depths of this Mississippi town

2079
01:45:40,613 --> 01:45:44,453
Speaker 25: and makes you think and question things. And it's very

2080
01:45:44,493 --> 01:45:47,013
Speaker 25: well written, and even though it's a doorstop of a book,

2081
01:45:47,733 --> 01:45:50,453
Speaker 25: you do find yourself very engrossed in the story. And

2082
01:45:50,493 --> 01:45:51,293
Speaker 25: I didn't mind that.

2083
01:45:51,253 --> 01:45:52,573
Speaker 3: It was over nine hundred ages.

2084
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Speaker 25: I did mind that it's kind of hard to hold,

2085
01:45:55,653 --> 01:45:58,373
Speaker 25: but you know, I didn't mind that it's such a

2086
01:45:58,373 --> 01:45:58,893
Speaker 25: great story.

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01:45:58,973 --> 01:46:02,093
Speaker 3: That's interesting, and yeah, nine hundred pages does seem like

2088
01:46:02,133 --> 01:46:04,853
Speaker 3: a lot, but yeah, that's fantastic. He's an interesting guy,

2089
01:46:04,933 --> 01:46:08,053
Speaker 3: Gregyse because he's I think he lives and Mississippi. Could

2090
01:46:08,053 --> 01:46:11,573
Speaker 3: be wrong there, but I'm thinking born, maybe not born,

2091
01:46:11,653 --> 01:46:15,493
Speaker 3: but certainly raised in Mississippi. But he's in this. There's

2092
01:46:15,493 --> 01:46:18,373
Speaker 3: this literary musical group. I'm not sure if you've ever

2093
01:46:18,413 --> 01:46:22,213
Speaker 3: come across them. I called the rock Bottom Remainders, and

2094
01:46:22,333 --> 01:46:24,773
Speaker 3: it's just like it's like just literary figures from the

2095
01:46:24,893 --> 01:46:27,933
Speaker 3: US men who get together. I know, not just men.

2096
01:46:28,333 --> 01:46:30,853
Speaker 3: I've just googled them. Amy Tans in there as well.

2097
01:46:30,893 --> 01:46:34,773
Speaker 3: So a group of literary figures, including the likes of

2098
01:46:34,853 --> 01:46:38,693
Speaker 3: Stephen King and Matt Groening, who you know made the Simpsons.

2099
01:46:39,573 --> 01:46:41,053
Speaker 3: So they are yeah, apparently.

2100
01:46:40,773 --> 01:46:44,053
Speaker 11: They very cliquic group of people.

2101
01:46:44,173 --> 01:46:49,093
Speaker 3: Yeah. So they called the rock Bottom Remainders or the Remainders,

2102
01:46:49,693 --> 01:46:51,213
Speaker 3: and I think they get together and like do some

2103
01:46:51,333 --> 01:46:53,933
Speaker 3: charity stuff, you know. But anyway, it's just it's one

2104
01:46:53,973 --> 01:46:55,933
Speaker 3: of those kind of funny things. But I recognize Greek

2105
01:46:55,973 --> 01:46:57,613
Speaker 3: Isles as one of the members of that. So there

2106
01:46:57,653 --> 01:47:01,773
Speaker 3: you go. Random fact for your weekend. Catherine, thank you

2107
01:47:01,813 --> 01:47:04,813
Speaker 3: for the box those recommendations once again. Southern Man by

2108
01:47:04,893 --> 01:47:08,213
Speaker 3: Greek Isles is that big nine hundred pager, The thriller

2109
01:47:08,253 --> 01:47:11,493
Speaker 3: set in Mississippi, and The Midnight Feast with Catherine's first pick.

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Speaker 3: That's by Lucy Foley. Both of them will be at

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Speaker 3: news Talks hedb dot co dot nz if you want

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Speaker 3: to go and track one down. It is seventeen minutes

2113
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Speaker 3: to twelve. We've got new music for you next from

2114
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Speaker 3: Gracie Abrams.

2115
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Speaker 1: Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need to

2116
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Speaker 1: Us Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame and beepwre dot co

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Speaker 1: dot zid for high quality supplements News Talks.

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Speaker 19: It'd be you're taking off shoes. She Sonny is pretty

2119
01:47:41,333 --> 01:47:44,893
Speaker 19: and she was on the Anna and are your conversations cooling?

2120
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Speaker 17: Are you even interesting?

2121
01:47:46,693 --> 01:47:50,533
Speaker 11: I know what you are for looting the stories, Tony.

2122
01:47:50,573 --> 01:47:55,253
Speaker 19: If she takes you far, far away from all the.

2123
01:47:55,293 --> 01:47:58,693
Speaker 10: Baggage, you can carry all to all the.

2124
01:47:58,693 --> 01:48:03,973
Speaker 3: Good is Gracie Abrams that songs called Blowing Smoke. She

2125
01:48:04,173 --> 01:48:07,573
Speaker 3: just released a second album, it's called the Secret of Us.

2126
01:48:07,653 --> 01:48:10,373
Speaker 3: In our music review at Stelle, Clifford has been taking

2127
01:48:10,373 --> 01:48:12,253
Speaker 3: a bit of a listen, hey, Estelle.

2128
01:48:12,253 --> 01:48:14,613
Speaker 26: Killed her mourning, I had blonde smokes actually one of

2129
01:48:14,653 --> 01:48:15,133
Speaker 26: my faves.

2130
01:48:15,173 --> 01:48:17,853
Speaker 17: And she describes it as catchy, sad girl.

2131
01:48:17,693 --> 01:48:20,533
Speaker 3: Stuff, which is kind of like her in general.

2132
01:48:20,293 --> 01:48:20,613
Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, no, no, no, no, totally yeah, like Billie Eilish, Phoebe Bridges,

2134
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Speaker 26: and there is one that she is.

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Speaker 3: It cool for me to be like, you know, there's

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Speaker 3: a kind of a thing at the moment with like,

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Speaker 3: you know, young female musicians with beautiful voices making kind

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Speaker 3: of whispery music in their bedrooms.

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Speaker 17: I think that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 26: And you know, she actually says Gracie says she didn't

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Speaker 26: She always wrote music and she always wanted to do music,

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Speaker 26: but she didn't want to do the performance side of things, right,

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Speaker 26: so that you kind of get that whole pop girl

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Speaker 26: in the bedroom, which is actually how she first did

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Speaker 26: her first concerts. During Lockdown, one hundred people online watching

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Speaker 26: her performance.

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Speaker 3: Has become a bit of a sort of cliche.

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Speaker 26: It has a it's generational though, isn't it. That's how

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Speaker 26: they've come through the ranks. They couldn't go and tour

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Speaker 26: their music, which she said she was grateful for because

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Speaker 26: that's the one thing. So a record deal she wasn't into,

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Speaker 26: so I don't really want.

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Speaker 2: To do that but.

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Speaker 3: Make money now.

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Speaker 17: Well, then you get picked up by Taylor Swift to open.

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Speaker 26: And I feel like you kind of say yes to that,

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Speaker 26: and you go from one hundred people online watching you too.

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Speaker 26: I don't even know, like how many people who Stadium's ridiculous.

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Speaker 26: This album is interesting for her and I think, you know,

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Speaker 26: she is evolving as a musician, but it's definitely more

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Speaker 26: poptastic than probably some of her other stuff that people

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Speaker 26: might have heard from Gracie. Definitely influenced by Phoebe Bridges,

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Speaker 26: Johnny Mitchell, all those kind of artists, which is which

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Speaker 26: is cool to cover a few decades of music. But

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Speaker 26: this one, I would say, if you think Taylor Swift

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Speaker 26: slash Olivia Rodrigo, then you're right on the money. And

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Speaker 26: I think she even has that that kind of voice

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Speaker 26: that sort of matches that too. Probably no surprise that

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Speaker 26: she has a single collaboration with Taylor Swift on this album,

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Speaker 26: which I just completely sounds Taylor Swift to me, like

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Speaker 26: if it was on Taylor's album. This is a take

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Speaker 26: yeah yeah, again, She's also used the same producers, So

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Speaker 26: Aaron Desner is on it. Jack antonof Taylor's producer on

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Speaker 26: this as well. And I think they're just trying to

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Speaker 26: make her honer craft. I guess that maybe is quite universal.

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Speaker 3: Sellable, right right, Yeah.

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Speaker 26: And if that is the business woman of Tata behind

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Speaker 26: you promoting your music, then I guess go for it.

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Speaker 17: So way more slick and production.

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Speaker 26: You've still got that girl and her guitar kind of

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Speaker 26: those moments.

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Speaker 17: Too, and a little bit of that rock.

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Speaker 26: Sort of undertone to some of the pot but mostly

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Speaker 26: like just full go there, like you say, wistful, dreamy,

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Speaker 26: but then every now and then a bit of a

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Speaker 26: bit of a jam.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 17: So, but I think the set, the catchy sad girl.

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Speaker 26: Thing is like just a great way to sort of

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01:50:59,453 --> 01:51:02,053
Speaker 26: go there. A song you're going to play in a

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01:51:02,093 --> 01:51:05,693
Speaker 26: few minutes close to you, the final track on the album,

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01:51:05,773 --> 01:51:08,933
Speaker 26: it is. It's the most closest to going to the

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Speaker 26: dance floor with the tunes she's got on this, right,

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01:51:11,973 --> 01:51:14,973
Speaker 26: She actually wrote it like several years ago, didn't really

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Speaker 26: like it, gave a little teaser on social media, and

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Speaker 26: then ever since like seven years or something, right, like, what.

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01:51:21,493 --> 01:51:24,413
Speaker 17: Is that song when you're going to go there, you.

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Speaker 26: Hand it over to someone like Aaronda and he's like,

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01:51:26,373 --> 01:51:28,853
Speaker 26: this is where you should go with it. So it's

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Speaker 26: finally here, and it actually ties in with the album

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Speaker 26: and gives her one of those singles to advertise the

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Speaker 26: album quite well, I think, considering she's about to do

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01:51:37,453 --> 01:51:40,733
Speaker 26: a headline tour and do some festivals and things, it's

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01:51:40,813 --> 01:51:42,653
Speaker 26: right kind of song. It's a real jam, you know,

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01:51:42,773 --> 01:51:44,653
Speaker 26: like makes you want to dance, and I think that's

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Speaker 26: really cool still sometimes with those melancholy lyrics that we

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01:51:48,213 --> 01:51:49,573
Speaker 26: kind of love of said good music.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, she's good.

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Speaker 17: I think she's good. I think she's good.

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Speaker 26: I think that when she finds what else to evolve

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Speaker 26: her music, or if she's going to stay in this

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01:51:59,333 --> 01:52:03,133
Speaker 26: pop line, then she will evolve. I think as an artist.

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01:52:03,253 --> 01:52:06,173
Speaker 26: She's twenty four or whatever, right, so plenty of times good.

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Speaker 3: It's nice for some Yeah, well kind of the best

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01:52:09,133 --> 01:52:11,293
Speaker 3: team did get the best team behind her now as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it sounds sounds pretty good.

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01:52:14,173 --> 01:52:15,533
Speaker 17: Look, it's a nice lesson.

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Speaker 26: I don't know if it's something that's going to be

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01:52:17,133 --> 01:52:20,173
Speaker 26: in my high collection. It does to challenge you.

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01:52:20,173 --> 01:52:22,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, challenge you. I'm not trying to be

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01:52:22,653 --> 01:52:24,813
Speaker 3: too critical because I haven't heard enough of the album yet,

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01:52:24,853 --> 01:52:26,453
Speaker 3: but it's always going to have opinions on things you

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01:52:26,453 --> 01:52:28,773
Speaker 3: don't know about. So, I mean, it just feels like

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Speaker 3: maybe we're maximum sad, whispery young woman in the bedroom.

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Speaker 17: Where do we need a change now?

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01:52:35,613 --> 01:52:35,733
Speaker 7: Right?

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01:52:35,773 --> 01:52:37,413
Speaker 26: But we've we've kind of done that, and we've heard

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01:52:37,413 --> 01:52:38,573
Speaker 26: a lot of it, and every time I bring you

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01:52:38,613 --> 01:52:40,533
Speaker 26: a pop artist, I feel like I'm saying quite a

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01:52:40,573 --> 01:52:41,413
Speaker 26: similar sort of thing.

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01:52:41,733 --> 01:52:43,613
Speaker 3: Yeah well yeah, yeah.

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01:52:43,533 --> 01:52:46,293
Speaker 26: So it's something that's obviously working for them to perform

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01:52:46,333 --> 01:52:48,893
Speaker 26: it and also to sell it. Yeah, okay, so I

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01:52:48,933 --> 01:52:51,213
Speaker 26: get that, but I think that there's an evolution for her.

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01:52:51,293 --> 01:52:53,813
Speaker 26: She hasn't quite cracked that album that you're like, whoa,

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01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:57,573
Speaker 26: this is her signature sound and her signature album. Yeah, okay,

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01:52:57,573 --> 01:52:59,133
Speaker 26: all right, but there's time.

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Speaker 3: The secret for Grassie Abram. Okay, listened to have you

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01:53:04,733 --> 01:53:08,133
Speaker 3: listened to the have you heard the Lord Charlie Xi song? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: What do you think?

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Speaker 17: I'm on the fence about it, So I'm on, yeah.

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01:53:11,773 --> 01:53:13,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all right?

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01:53:14,053 --> 01:53:17,653
Speaker 26: Said first to come back and just do her stuff right,

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01:53:17,773 --> 01:53:18,573
Speaker 26: So Peop will.

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01:53:18,413 --> 01:53:19,733
Speaker 3: Come back and do her stuff when she wants.

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01:53:19,853 --> 01:53:23,133
Speaker 17: Yeah, I'm sure right, And dog, isn't that power? Like

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01:53:23,173 --> 01:53:23,853
Speaker 17: I love it.

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01:53:23,813 --> 01:53:25,853
Speaker 3: Totally, but I mean I've only listened to it a

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Speaker 3: couple of times. I saw it have been released A

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Speaker 3: head bit of a listen, ye, yeah, I mean here

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Speaker 3: is more Charlie igxy x. Then there's Lord in a

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01:53:32,533 --> 01:53:33,573
Speaker 3: way yeah.

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Speaker 26: And I guess we're looking at it big like, yes,

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01:53:35,293 --> 01:53:38,173
Speaker 26: Lord's back, but actually nope, she's doing that co lab

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Speaker 26: thing which she's not pushing herself to the forefront.

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Speaker 17: So yeah, we'll wait.

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Speaker 3: Katie Pie will wait. Very good. I thank you so much, Stelle.

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01:53:45,413 --> 01:53:47,333
Speaker 3: We always talk to you again. Next way, Castelle Clippe.

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Speaker 3: It is our music reviewer seven out of ten she

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Speaker 3: reckons Get Gracie Abrams The Secret of us as Worth.

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Speaker 3: We're picked out one of the banger songs though, so

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Speaker 3: we'll play that in a couple of minutes. Right now.

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Speaker 3: It is eight minutes to twelve on News Talks.

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Speaker 3: to worry, though, we have a massive afternoon planned. Jason

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Speaker 3: Pine is on Weekend Sport, counting down to the Warriors

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Speaker 3: at five the Super Rugby Final just after seven. He's

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Speaker 3: as well. He's gonna make sure that you are up

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Speaker 3: place to go. A massive thanks to Libby for doing

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Speaker 3: all the tough stuff, all the buttons and dials. This morning,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna leave you with Gracie Abrams. Her new album

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Speaker 3: is the Secret of Us. I'm back next Saturday morning,

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Speaker 3: or am I because if the text or anything to

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Speaker 3: go by, it might not be Jack Tame, it might

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Speaker 3: be Antie barb Tam instead. She'd love that all right

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Speaker 3: see Nia.

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Speaker 2: You should be in mind for life.

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Speaker 19: I'll be signing every dotted line.

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Speaker 27: Chemical over idle truck violent.

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Speaker 17: You could be my tonight, but for you.

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Speaker 10: And you don't even know mine. If you ask sweets,

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Speaker 10: I give you a freezer.

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Speaker 27: To be COSTI.

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Speaker 10: Pulled the trigger gone and I gave you let mend.

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Speaker 10: I want to be costy, honest, not by you got

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Speaker 10: me any? Shall sign me be costly costy, costy, costy, costy, costy.

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Speaker 17: Burn for you m to be closty.

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Speaker 10: Pulled the trigger and the gun that gave you when

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Speaker 10: you mat he want to be close, to break my

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Speaker 10: heart and start fire.

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Speaker 7: You got your.

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Speaker 27: Knightly costly, costy, costy, cost losty, crosty, custy, cost.

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Speaker 22: Colsty, closty costy.

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