1 00:00:06,707 --> 00:00:10,467 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,067 Speaker 1: from newstalk ZEDB. 3 00:00:12,827 --> 00:00:16,307 Speaker 2: Sow with a rather unseasonal look at rugby. Because on 4 00:00:16,387 --> 00:00:19,907 Speaker 2: Thursday night the New Zealand Rugby Awards were handed out. 5 00:00:20,467 --> 00:00:23,747 Speaker 2: Blackfern seven's youngster Georgia Miller got the big gong, the 6 00:00:23,947 --> 00:00:28,427 Speaker 2: Kel Tremaine Memorial Award for Rugby Player of the Year. 7 00:00:28,507 --> 00:00:33,227 Speaker 2: She's only twenty. Georgia Miller the second youngest recipient of 8 00:00:33,267 --> 00:00:36,947 Speaker 2: the award in its thirty year history, behind only Jon Olomu. 9 00:00:37,707 --> 00:00:41,147 Speaker 2: Blackfern sevens coach Corey Sweeney and the team itself won 10 00:00:41,227 --> 00:00:44,267 Speaker 2: Coach and Team of the Year respectively for their gold 11 00:00:44,347 --> 00:00:47,947 Speaker 2: medal at the Paris Olympics and their World Series League triumph. 12 00:00:48,147 --> 00:00:52,587 Speaker 2: The Blues also big winners unsurprisingly national men's and women's 13 00:00:53,067 --> 00:00:55,467 Speaker 2: Teams of the Year, Men's National Coach of the Year 14 00:00:55,507 --> 00:00:59,387 Speaker 2: through Vern Cotta, Super Rugby Player of the Year through Hoskins, 15 00:00:59,507 --> 00:01:04,427 Speaker 2: Setutu and Caitlin Varcolo won top Ope. Key women's player 16 00:01:04,747 --> 00:01:08,547 Speaker 2: Tyree Lomax was the Tom French Memorial Multi Player of 17 00:01:08,587 --> 00:01:13,107 Speaker 2: the Year and Wallace Satiti All Blacks Player of the Year. 18 00:01:13,227 --> 00:01:15,427 Speaker 1: Down the blinder game Wallace a Titi's popped up there 19 00:01:15,507 --> 00:01:23,027 Speaker 1: gets the pass away from. 20 00:01:20,427 --> 00:01:22,027 Speaker 3: That's an incredible pass by Wallace. 21 00:01:22,067 --> 00:01:24,427 Speaker 2: A Titi there he had two men on him, he 22 00:01:24,467 --> 00:01:28,187 Speaker 2: took into the contact. What a debut season for Wallace 23 00:01:28,307 --> 00:01:32,827 Speaker 2: Satiti who joins US now Wallace All Blacks Player of 24 00:01:32,867 --> 00:01:36,027 Speaker 2: the Year. Was that a sentence you possibly could have 25 00:01:36,147 --> 00:01:40,427 Speaker 2: imagined hearing about six months ago. 26 00:01:40,587 --> 00:01:44,667 Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely not. I would have been happy with one 27 00:01:44,747 --> 00:01:47,387 Speaker 3: day with the chief and had to be here as 28 00:01:47,467 --> 00:01:51,227 Speaker 3: technical unexpected and yeah, just grateful I was able to, 29 00:01:51,387 --> 00:01:55,027 Speaker 3: you know, have the season that I had, and luckily 30 00:01:55,107 --> 00:01:58,347 Speaker 3: it was put a few performances together and yeah, just 31 00:01:58,347 --> 00:01:59,427 Speaker 3: go for the Lord. 32 00:02:00,227 --> 00:02:02,707 Speaker 2: Just I think it's it's easy to forget that this 33 00:02:02,867 --> 00:02:05,507 Speaker 2: was your first year also of super rugby and you 34 00:02:05,507 --> 00:02:08,947 Speaker 2: didn't get your first start until round seven. Once you 35 00:02:09,027 --> 00:02:12,267 Speaker 2: got into the Chiefs team, did you feel comfortable at 36 00:02:12,267 --> 00:02:14,147 Speaker 2: super level pretty much straight away? 37 00:02:16,587 --> 00:02:18,627 Speaker 3: I always knew that, you know, I just needed to 38 00:02:18,667 --> 00:02:21,507 Speaker 3: be ready for red opportunity came, and then it was 39 00:02:21,547 --> 00:02:25,547 Speaker 3: just about taking the opportunity and not letting anyone take 40 00:02:25,547 --> 00:02:27,587 Speaker 3: it away from here. So I don't know if I 41 00:02:27,627 --> 00:02:31,307 Speaker 3: was comfortable straight away, but yeah, definitely found my shoulder 42 00:02:31,707 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 3: after a few weeks. 43 00:02:33,147 --> 00:02:35,667 Speaker 2: Can I ask you about the performance in the semi 44 00:02:35,667 --> 00:02:39,547 Speaker 2: final went over the Hurricanes in Wellington? You know, a 45 00:02:39,587 --> 00:02:43,547 Speaker 2: standout performance from you that night. Was that a particularly 46 00:02:43,587 --> 00:02:44,867 Speaker 2: memorable night for you? 47 00:02:46,467 --> 00:02:50,907 Speaker 3: Yeah? For sure. We had played them twice before and 48 00:02:51,147 --> 00:02:53,627 Speaker 3: they got the better of us both times, so that 49 00:02:53,787 --> 00:02:57,427 Speaker 3: was definitely a sort of sense of motivation for us 50 00:02:57,467 --> 00:02:59,987 Speaker 3: to get one over there, you know, over the big 51 00:03:00,027 --> 00:03:03,747 Speaker 3: team that sort of was leading the whole year. And yeah, 52 00:03:03,787 --> 00:03:05,707 Speaker 3: have you ever to win, especially in a semi or 53 00:03:05,787 --> 00:03:09,267 Speaker 3: special Yeah? If anybody wonder next. 54 00:03:09,147 --> 00:03:13,267 Speaker 2: Week, well well maybe that'll come come next year. So 55 00:03:13,267 --> 00:03:16,867 Speaker 2: so after Super Rugby finished, Wallace, did you think you 56 00:03:16,907 --> 00:03:18,787 Speaker 2: were in the frame for All Black Selection? 57 00:03:20,027 --> 00:03:21,907 Speaker 3: I know you're on the phone. I'm so sorry, but 58 00:03:21,987 --> 00:03:26,747 Speaker 3: can I get a picture of you after? Yeah? Sorry? 59 00:03:28,227 --> 00:03:29,987 Speaker 2: Are you still getting as for photos? 60 00:03:29,987 --> 00:03:30,347 Speaker 3: I love that. 61 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:33,867 Speaker 2: I just wondered whether after Super Rugby you you thought 62 00:03:33,907 --> 00:03:35,627 Speaker 2: you were in the frame for All Black Selection. 63 00:03:38,107 --> 00:03:39,587 Speaker 3: I didn't know. I don't think much of her fun 64 00:03:39,747 --> 00:03:43,027 Speaker 3: to be honest, wishally after that final final performance and 65 00:03:43,707 --> 00:03:45,547 Speaker 3: so when I heard my name, it was a shock 66 00:03:45,667 --> 00:03:48,507 Speaker 3: and it was just a special moment for myself and 67 00:03:48,587 --> 00:03:49,067 Speaker 3: my family. 68 00:03:49,947 --> 00:03:51,947 Speaker 2: How are the emotions when you came into the all 69 00:03:51,947 --> 00:03:54,387 Speaker 2: blacks environment for the first time. I mean, I don't know, 70 00:03:54,427 --> 00:03:55,787 Speaker 2: I'd be nervous. Were you nervous? 71 00:03:56,947 --> 00:03:57,107 Speaker 1: Oh? 72 00:03:57,467 --> 00:04:01,667 Speaker 3: If shemer nervous, if you're overwhelmed, then I was just 73 00:04:02,147 --> 00:04:05,147 Speaker 3: happy to be in an environment and senior guys, you know, 74 00:04:05,307 --> 00:04:09,427 Speaker 3: they me feel welcome. It is my nerves a little bit. 75 00:04:09,467 --> 00:04:15,107 Speaker 3: And yeah and yeah, I was just controlled by the 76 00:04:15,187 --> 00:04:15,787 Speaker 3: senior boys. 77 00:04:15,787 --> 00:04:18,227 Speaker 2: Really, yes, So who were the players who were who 78 00:04:18,227 --> 00:04:20,827 Speaker 2: were most helpful to you and the other new players 79 00:04:21,507 --> 00:04:24,147 Speaker 2: maybe specifically you, who were who were the players who 80 00:04:24,187 --> 00:04:26,627 Speaker 2: were most helpful to you as you were finding your 81 00:04:26,627 --> 00:04:27,667 Speaker 2: feet in the all Blacks? 82 00:04:28,867 --> 00:04:33,747 Speaker 3: Uh, can't get past artist. So there sort of you know, 83 00:04:33,787 --> 00:04:35,827 Speaker 3: my mentor, and he took me under his wing and 84 00:04:38,067 --> 00:04:41,987 Speaker 3: helped on. He played similar positions and and I think 85 00:04:42,307 --> 00:04:44,547 Speaker 3: we're we can relate to each other really well. So 86 00:04:45,027 --> 00:04:48,787 Speaker 3: he was able to connect really well with him. Kept 87 00:04:48,787 --> 00:04:51,267 Speaker 3: telling me to enjoy the moment and just to play 88 00:04:51,307 --> 00:04:54,307 Speaker 3: footy and just to keep working on and you go, 89 00:04:54,427 --> 00:04:58,947 Speaker 3: other guys of class like Sam Kaine, Damian McKenzie. You 90 00:04:58,947 --> 00:05:03,507 Speaker 3: know there there chiefs men, so that they're really they 91 00:05:03,627 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 3: sure I felt comfortable and just allowed me to find 92 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:06,267 Speaker 3: my show. 93 00:05:07,387 --> 00:05:10,307 Speaker 2: And your test aboot came up in San Diego against 94 00:05:10,347 --> 00:05:13,307 Speaker 2: Fiji off the bench. How special a moment was it 95 00:05:13,427 --> 00:05:15,107 Speaker 2: to take the field in the black jersey for the 96 00:05:15,107 --> 00:05:15,627 Speaker 2: first time. 97 00:05:16,587 --> 00:05:20,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an emotional moment, knowing for myself, boss, 98 00:05:20,907 --> 00:05:25,427 Speaker 3: for my parents who were able to make the trip over. Yeah, 99 00:05:25,467 --> 00:05:28,907 Speaker 3: it's sort of you know, all the clashback and really 100 00:05:28,947 --> 00:05:32,587 Speaker 3: hard work and all the sort of rollercases that came 101 00:05:32,667 --> 00:05:34,107 Speaker 3: up for the journey, you know, it just comes back 102 00:05:34,147 --> 00:05:36,187 Speaker 3: to you. And to be able to make that debut 103 00:05:36,187 --> 00:05:39,307 Speaker 3: and sort of took that box was special and it 104 00:05:39,347 --> 00:05:41,747 Speaker 3: managed was a special moment for me and my family. 105 00:05:42,307 --> 00:05:45,507 Speaker 2: And then your first start against South Africa in Cape 106 00:05:45,547 --> 00:05:47,307 Speaker 2: Town and then from there on you were in the 107 00:05:47,307 --> 00:05:51,387 Speaker 2: team well every week. Basically, how did you manage the 108 00:05:51,387 --> 00:05:54,667 Speaker 2: physical and mental workloaders that I think was eight tests 109 00:05:54,707 --> 00:05:56,427 Speaker 2: the last eight tests of the year, you played them all, 110 00:05:56,547 --> 00:05:59,587 Speaker 2: started them all. How did you manage the physical and 111 00:05:59,707 --> 00:06:01,707 Speaker 2: mental workload that came with that? 112 00:06:03,507 --> 00:06:06,147 Speaker 3: Yeah? See, firstly, just like super was just about where 113 00:06:06,427 --> 00:06:08,787 Speaker 3: the opportunity and then when it comes to you, you 114 00:06:08,947 --> 00:06:11,307 Speaker 3: take you with first hands and not let anyone take it. 115 00:06:11,347 --> 00:06:17,907 Speaker 3: And fortunately enough had my opportunity against South Africans and 116 00:06:17,907 --> 00:06:19,187 Speaker 3: then it was just a first of all, it was 117 00:06:19,187 --> 00:06:22,467 Speaker 3: a dream to be able to play against him, dreams 118 00:06:22,467 --> 00:06:25,467 Speaker 3: to come up against some world class players. And yeah, 119 00:06:25,507 --> 00:06:27,027 Speaker 3: like I said, you got to go back to your 120 00:06:27,667 --> 00:06:31,307 Speaker 3: to your training credits and environment. When you got class 121 00:06:31,307 --> 00:06:32,907 Speaker 3: guys around you, you sort of just want to do 122 00:06:32,947 --> 00:06:35,147 Speaker 3: your best with him, and they made sure I was 123 00:06:35,147 --> 00:06:38,027 Speaker 3: prepared throughout the week and just continue to do so 124 00:06:38,107 --> 00:06:38,667 Speaker 3: throughout the year. 125 00:06:39,267 --> 00:06:41,027 Speaker 2: And we saw you mainly play at number eight for 126 00:06:41,067 --> 00:06:44,107 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. Most of your games for the All Blacks 127 00:06:44,107 --> 00:06:46,867 Speaker 2: were in the sixth jersey. That was that a big 128 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:50,347 Speaker 2: adjustment to make Wallace, just. 129 00:06:50,307 --> 00:06:52,107 Speaker 3: The obvious adjustments in terms of the line on and 130 00:06:52,107 --> 00:06:56,467 Speaker 3: the scrum, rather than there was about achieving the game. Simple, 131 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,787 Speaker 3: I'm not too fast out back the coaches and where 132 00:07:00,787 --> 00:07:03,267 Speaker 3: they put me, and I was just try my best 133 00:07:03,267 --> 00:07:04,347 Speaker 3: to do the position justice. 134 00:07:04,387 --> 00:07:06,867 Speaker 2: So yeah, do you feel us O in the low forwards? 135 00:07:06,867 --> 00:07:09,267 Speaker 2: Actually it doesn't matter too much whether it's a six 136 00:07:09,387 --> 00:07:11,187 Speaker 2: or seven or an eight on your back. 137 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:14,947 Speaker 3: Depends on the system. I think sort of how we 138 00:07:14,947 --> 00:07:19,267 Speaker 3: want to play. They don't find too much difference obviously, 139 00:07:19,307 --> 00:07:21,587 Speaker 3: just a Lanna and the scrum. But yeah, it was 140 00:07:21,627 --> 00:07:24,827 Speaker 3: just about running hard and tuckle hard. Why not. 141 00:07:25,507 --> 00:07:27,107 Speaker 2: And at the back end of the year, you're also 142 00:07:27,187 --> 00:07:30,347 Speaker 2: named World Rugby's Breakthrough Player of the Year. How special 143 00:07:30,387 --> 00:07:31,267 Speaker 2: an honor was that for you? 144 00:07:32,587 --> 00:07:35,107 Speaker 3: Oh? Man, I was special. Just going to the awards 145 00:07:34,747 --> 00:07:37,267 Speaker 3: was it was crazy. It was a crazy experience for 146 00:07:37,347 --> 00:07:40,787 Speaker 3: me and being around some of the best players in 147 00:07:40,827 --> 00:07:44,027 Speaker 3: the world at the time at the time, and yeah, 148 00:07:44,107 --> 00:07:45,827 Speaker 3: to would be able to receive it on behalf of 149 00:07:46,867 --> 00:07:50,347 Speaker 3: my family, my teammates. Yeah, it was special. 150 00:07:50,467 --> 00:07:51,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, what a year? 151 00:07:51,147 --> 00:07:51,387 Speaker 3: Right? 152 00:07:51,427 --> 00:07:54,027 Speaker 2: So has this all happened? This is probably a silly question. 153 00:07:54,387 --> 00:07:56,467 Speaker 2: Is this all happened a bit quicker, a bit quicker 154 00:07:56,467 --> 00:07:57,747 Speaker 2: than you thought it might all of us? 155 00:07:58,867 --> 00:08:02,467 Speaker 3: Oh? Definitely. I think sort of took everyone by surprise, 156 00:08:02,507 --> 00:08:06,187 Speaker 3: And just like myself, I was. I'm both shocked and 157 00:08:06,227 --> 00:08:09,107 Speaker 3: I still got to push myself now. So yeah, I'm 158 00:08:09,187 --> 00:08:11,907 Speaker 3: just extremely grateful for the year with the year had. 159 00:08:12,027 --> 00:08:14,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, your family pretty proud of you. 160 00:08:15,667 --> 00:08:19,347 Speaker 3: Oh I hope, so, I bet. 161 00:08:19,387 --> 00:08:20,867 Speaker 2: And so how are you going to spend the summer 162 00:08:20,907 --> 00:08:22,907 Speaker 2: once you've once you've got got through talking to me, 163 00:08:22,987 --> 00:08:24,867 Speaker 2: which you've done in your holiday, how are you going 164 00:08:24,867 --> 00:08:26,227 Speaker 2: to spend your summer, hey, are you going to spend 165 00:08:26,267 --> 00:08:26,867 Speaker 2: your summer break? 166 00:08:28,667 --> 00:08:30,867 Speaker 3: Hopefully where the holes up and we're able to hold 167 00:08:30,907 --> 00:08:34,427 Speaker 3: a few barbecues, hopefully were able to make a simple 168 00:08:34,387 --> 00:08:36,787 Speaker 3: away and just spin on some family. 169 00:08:37,387 --> 00:08:41,267 Speaker 2: Fantastic. Well, congratulations on an absolutely standout year, recognized at 170 00:08:41,267 --> 00:08:43,387 Speaker 2: All Blacks Player of the Year, Wallace, much more to come, 171 00:08:43,427 --> 00:08:45,347 Speaker 2: I'm sure enjoy your break mate, look forward to seeing 172 00:08:45,347 --> 00:08:46,987 Speaker 2: what twenty twenty five holds for you. 173 00:08:48,107 --> 00:08:50,387 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Take care you take. 174 00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:53,347 Speaker 2: Care too, Wallas, thanks indeed, Wallas Sa Titi. There can 175 00:08:53,387 --> 00:08:56,627 Speaker 2: anybody hand on heart have said that, even I was 176 00:08:56,667 --> 00:09:00,267 Speaker 2: going to say a year ago, even even after Super 177 00:09:00,307 --> 00:09:03,707 Speaker 2: Rugby when he was really impressive, can anybody hand on 178 00:09:03,787 --> 00:09:06,507 Speaker 2: heart truly have said, there is your All Black of 179 00:09:06,507 --> 00:09:09,907 Speaker 2: the Year. I remember when the team was first named, 180 00:09:09,907 --> 00:09:11,667 Speaker 2: a lot of people didn't think he should have been there. 181 00:09:12,787 --> 00:09:17,027 Speaker 2: There was a lot of noise around about Hoskins Setutu 182 00:09:17,107 --> 00:09:21,027 Speaker 2: and rightly so. He had an absolutely brilliant Super Rugby 183 00:09:21,067 --> 00:09:25,187 Speaker 2: campaign for the title winning Blues wasn't named in the 184 00:09:25,187 --> 00:09:28,667 Speaker 2: All Blacks and whether it was a choice between Sotutu 185 00:09:28,867 --> 00:09:32,467 Speaker 2: and Satiti or not, or whether it was just the 186 00:09:32,547 --> 00:09:36,067 Speaker 2: fact that the loose forwards they chose included Satiti and 187 00:09:36,107 --> 00:09:38,787 Speaker 2: not Stutu. The fact remains that I don't think a 188 00:09:38,787 --> 00:09:43,867 Speaker 2: lot of people saw Wallace Satiti's year coming. He didn't 189 00:09:43,867 --> 00:09:46,427 Speaker 2: play in either of the Tests against England, got his 190 00:09:46,547 --> 00:09:51,707 Speaker 2: debut off the bench against Fiji up in San Diego, 191 00:09:51,787 --> 00:09:56,387 Speaker 2: and then again came off the bench against Argentina in Wellington. 192 00:09:56,627 --> 00:10:00,787 Speaker 2: Wasn't in the team that redressed that loss in Wellington 193 00:10:00,867 --> 00:10:04,867 Speaker 2: by winning against Argentina comfortably up in Auckland, and wasn't 194 00:10:04,867 --> 00:10:07,707 Speaker 2: in the twenty three either for the first Test against 195 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:12,227 Speaker 2: South Africa in Johannesburg. So here we are six tests 196 00:10:12,267 --> 00:10:15,787 Speaker 2: into the season and Wallace a Titi is featured twice 197 00:10:15,907 --> 00:10:18,747 Speaker 2: off the bench. But then, as I just mentioned to 198 00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:23,787 Speaker 2: him there, he was handed a starting debut against South 199 00:10:23,827 --> 00:10:27,227 Speaker 2: Africa in Cape Town. For the three previous tests, Ethan 200 00:10:27,227 --> 00:10:31,707 Speaker 2: Blackadder had worn the number six and from memory got 201 00:10:31,707 --> 00:10:33,947 Speaker 2: injured I think, either in that test or in the 202 00:10:34,027 --> 00:10:36,587 Speaker 2: lead up to the second one. So the sixth jersey 203 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:39,627 Speaker 2: was open and it was Wallace Atti against a lot 204 00:10:39,667 --> 00:10:44,187 Speaker 2: of people's expectations. Again, this number eight, this rookie number eight, 205 00:10:44,227 --> 00:10:46,107 Speaker 2: out of the Chiefs who was handed the six jumper. 206 00:10:46,707 --> 00:10:49,787 Speaker 2: But from the moment he played against South Africa in 207 00:10:49,867 --> 00:10:52,787 Speaker 2: Cape Town, right through the two Bletterslow Cup Tests and 208 00:10:52,787 --> 00:10:55,147 Speaker 2: then on the end of year tour, it just became 209 00:10:55,347 --> 00:11:00,387 Speaker 2: increasingly obvious what a special talent he is. I remember 210 00:11:00,427 --> 00:11:04,147 Speaker 2: watching him in Wellington against Australia. I was sideline for 211 00:11:04,187 --> 00:11:07,467 Speaker 2: that game for our news talks. Heb comment and just 212 00:11:07,707 --> 00:11:12,667 Speaker 2: marveling at his athleticism and just his all round game 213 00:11:13,187 --> 00:11:19,707 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, his relentless work rate, his hands, 214 00:11:19,787 --> 00:11:23,387 Speaker 2: just his handling. And I mentioned that Super Rugby semi 215 00:11:23,387 --> 00:11:25,667 Speaker 2: final as well because I was also involved in the 216 00:11:25,667 --> 00:11:29,827 Speaker 2: commentary of that game Chiefs Hurricanes in Wellington Super Rugby 217 00:11:29,867 --> 00:11:33,827 Speaker 2: semi Final this year and it was one of the 218 00:11:34,027 --> 00:11:37,307 Speaker 2: great individual performances. In fact, it wouldn't be a surprise 219 00:11:38,027 --> 00:11:41,867 Speaker 2: if that performance alone was what tipped the scales in 220 00:11:41,907 --> 00:11:44,747 Speaker 2: Wallace to Titi's favor in terms of the All Black selection. 221 00:11:46,027 --> 00:11:50,307 Speaker 2: And then obviously he played every Test match from Cape 222 00:11:50,307 --> 00:11:54,307 Speaker 2: Town through Sydney, Wellington, Yokohama, London, Dublin, Paris and Churin 223 00:11:55,187 --> 00:11:57,427 Speaker 2: most of them the six jumper. Think he started against 224 00:11:57,507 --> 00:12:00,467 Speaker 2: Japan in the number eight Jersey and against France at 225 00:12:00,587 --> 00:12:02,867 Speaker 2: number eight. Although that's when I think, didn't Fee now 226 00:12:02,907 --> 00:12:05,347 Speaker 2: get in jurally in that game that to shuffle around 227 00:12:05,427 --> 00:12:08,227 Speaker 2: Lark I came on anyway, what a player? So can 228 00:12:08,267 --> 00:12:10,947 Speaker 2: you remember I'm just trying to remember and you can 229 00:12:10,987 --> 00:12:12,707 Speaker 2: just text this roof you like or call it call 230 00:12:12,747 --> 00:12:17,387 Speaker 2: it in? Can you remember a greater first year impact 231 00:12:17,587 --> 00:12:23,187 Speaker 2: from an all black, A player who in his first 232 00:12:23,267 --> 00:12:26,147 Speaker 2: year in the Black Jersey has made as big an 233 00:12:26,187 --> 00:12:28,627 Speaker 2: impact as Wallace to Tti. 234 00:12:29,147 --> 00:12:32,307 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 235 00:12:32,427 --> 00:12:35,707 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow 236 00:12:35,747 --> 00:12:37,307 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio