1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: And six, pur Perth Live present to Oli Peterson is 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Weathers this afternoon, killed Olie. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Jack, you are trending right across Australia over the last 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: forty eight hours or so, am I Yeah, your interview 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: with the PM. Everybody's saying this is how we should 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: talk to prime ministers. Look at you go, Jack, Well. 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: I can assure you that not everyone is saying that, Oly, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: Not everyone is saying that. No, it's always a good 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: wealth and my line of works. Sometimes it's a good 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: idea to turn the notifications off, you know. 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never read any of the comments on social 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: media about myself. 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: What was the point? No, no, no, no, no, that's it. No, 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: that's news to me. Well, making it big in Australia, right, 15 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 1: we all have dreams. Hey, The National Energy Regulator wants 16 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: the ability to remotely switch off rooftop solar and given 17 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: how many homes have rooftop solar in Australia, this is massive, huge. 18 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: So we we're talking now about four million homes in 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: Australia that have rooftop solar and it's really been a 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: big push, particularly over my side of the country in Way, 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: where we have an abundance of sunshine, and we've been 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: some of the earlier adopters of this technology. In fact, 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: they already have the ability to be able to turn 24 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: off for one of a better term, that power being 25 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: generated which can be sold back into the grid. So 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: that is what is being proposed here by AMIO, which 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: is the national Energy market operator, that they can just 28 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: all of a sudden pause, the fact that you can 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 2: send that energy from your rooftop solar back into the 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: grid for everybody else to use because they're just going 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: to have too much of it. It seems really odd, 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, in theory, to be honest with Jack, because 33 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: we have an energy crisis in this country. We are 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: being told on the Eastern States at the moment to 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 2: prioritize this summer. You can't really put your washing machine 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 2: on at the same time as you want to cook 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: and perhaps watch the television and have your conditioning system on. 38 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: So this sort of stuff just blows your mind when 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: you think, hold on, you're all telling us to go 40 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: and get rooftop solar, try and give us some subsidies 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: for batteries, and if we want to sell it back 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: into the grid, you're telling us you don't have the 43 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: capacity to elect it. Something is massively flawed with any 44 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: system's infrastructure. Here Jack that while people are doing the 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 2: right thing, going down the path and putting rooftop solar 46 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: in their homes and try to generate their own power 47 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 2: and will sell it back to Australians, they're being told 48 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: they can't. It's just madness. 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: Just like it seems like a real failure of kind 50 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: of infrastructure planning or something, right, like, what is an alternative? 51 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: Could they basically need to have large capacity battery storage 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: or something like that? 53 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: Right? Yes, yes, and there are some subsidies for those batteries, 54 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: but you know we're talking homes having to then go 55 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: and spend potentially another ten thousand dollars to put those 56 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: batteries into their homes. They don't have that. So they 57 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: can make a couple of bucks selling it back to 58 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: the energy regulator. 59 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: Why not? 60 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: So to be totally clear, so that's for a battery 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: at home. But is there not like a larger scale 62 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: grid option, you know, like in New Zealand over recent years, 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: for example, they've been talking about having a lake that 64 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: essentially you use when you've got when you're generating heaps 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: of electricity, you can push the water up, use that 66 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: energy to push the water up pill and then let 67 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: it flow down until later on, so that you have 68 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: it as a battery and you can use it when 69 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: the sun isn't shining, for example, there's no spot like that. 70 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: No, and that's what we need. We need that on 71 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: a large scale infrastructure, you know, project there's more people 72 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: have decided to put solar on. You'd think that you 73 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: could be able to store what is being generated there 74 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: to then share it around when you need it. 75 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, So three colleges have been closed down for 76 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: issuing fake diplomas. 77 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're talking here about seventeen thousand students. So 78 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: these are based in Sydney, Adelaide and Melbourne and people 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: who might have qualifications in early childhood education, the disability support, 80 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: age care, community services and first date. It's long been 81 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: argued that a lot of these so called education colleges 82 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: have just been set up as a route to bring 83 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: in international students, to not only line the pockets of 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: the educators, but to also provide an opportunity for migrants 85 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: to move into Australia and not really get the qualifications 86 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: they thought they were going to get. But it could 87 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: be advertised at a price that they can get the 88 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: mid of the country. So these ghost colleges have been 89 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: shut down. The the whole sector is on notice. And 90 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: really this plays into the hands of the government which 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 2: is saying it will crack down on migration, and it 92 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: turns its attention towards international students and colleges because ultimately, Jack, 93 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: they don't vote, so that they're the easy solution, not 94 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: the structural problems that we have with migration at the moment. 95 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: Just get rid of the students because they're not going 96 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 2: to vote either way. So you know, the government looks 97 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: like they're doing something when they're not really. 98 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fascinating. Now, a company that owns about two 99 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: hundred pubs and bars around Australia is it's not going 100 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: to be holding any Australia Day celebrations at any of 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: its venues. 102 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: What yeah, well, this is you know, the annual debate 103 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: in Australia about whether or not we should celebrate on 104 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of January. 105 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: I just you know what, I call it Invasion Day 106 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: eight correct, right, But I didn't really have it on 107 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: my bingo card for December one and two. You know, 108 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 3: I just thought let's get let's get Christmas out of 109 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: the way and return to the airwaves in the. 110 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Middle of January and start. So I'm sure we move 111 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: the date or not? No, Australian venues co. And we're 112 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: talking here some of the most popular pubs and bars 113 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: in locations like Darling Harbor. You've got Cargo Bar, which 114 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: is one of the most famous bars in Sydney. Plenty 115 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: of pubs, as you said, right across the country, including 116 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: a dozen or so here in Perth. The Clermont Hotels 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: one that I go to, So you know, people are 118 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: saying I'll never go there again, you know. And the 119 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 2: irony here is, you know, they do call themselves Australian 120 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: venues Coe. They don't want to celebrate Australia Day. Look, 121 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: I think ultimately again it's the same issue. 122 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: That pops up every year. 123 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: Do we celebrate on the twenty sixth of January or not? 124 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 2: Now that this pub group's going early, it's reignited the debate. 125 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: Will anybody actually move the date? No, because no one 126 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: can find an alternative date. But we go round and 127 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: round in circles. 128 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for your time, Mollie, appreciate it as always 129 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: that is Oli Peterson six PR Perth Live Presenters. 130 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave. 131 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, 132 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio