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Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sports, entertainment, opinion and Mike

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Speaker 1: the Mic asking breakfast were the defender, embraced the impossible

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Speaker 2: Body and welcome today. More good news if you're looking

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Speaker 2: for Greenshirts, demand for money as our demand for building

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Speaker 2: houses is up. For the Education Minister getting rid of

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Speaker 2: school boards requirements around the treaty, Liam Lawson, and for

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Speaker 2: a word ahead of Interlagos this weekend at Catherine Field

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Speaker 2: is in France while little is in the UK. Ask

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Speaker 2: Kevin pass six. Welcome to the day. Now, this acc

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Speaker 2: Union work from home legal case is a good one

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Speaker 2: and it became even better after the Westpac dispute in

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Speaker 2: Australia last week. Now there are two bits to these

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Speaker 2: sort of cases. The specific as in the wat's in

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Speaker 2: a contract, what's the wording? What have you agreed to?

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Speaker 2: What haven't you agreed to? Then the morals, the big picture,

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Speaker 2: the team spirit, the attitude. Work from home is a

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Speaker 2: symptom of all that is wrong with productivity, and very

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Speaker 2: few do productivity. As Polly's This Country, COVID wrecked the workplace.

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Speaker 2: Basically it allowed for work from home to be invented,

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Speaker 2: not literally but generally for a period it was all

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Speaker 2: you could do. And from that moment a seed was planted,

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Speaker 2: and the seed was grown into a mindset. Over a

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Speaker 2: remarkably short period of time, the idea became a habit

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Speaker 2: became a right, became for some the norm, and not

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Speaker 2: just that. So entrenched did it become in the minds

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Speaker 2: of some that what was once not even an idea

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Speaker 2: became something to be outraged about it the specter of

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Speaker 2: an ending was even uttered, even though you had spent

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Speaker 2: the vast majority of your working life going to the office.

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Speaker 2: No one jumps on and get out of jail free

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Speaker 2: card quicker than a union.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what was or wasn't said at acc

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Speaker 2: but what I do know is work from home has

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Speaker 2: become a gargantuan pisstake. Don't get me wrong. I mean

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Speaker 2: save on the commute, the cost of parking, hopping out

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Speaker 2: a bus or hoping the buses on time, all that

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Speaker 2: stuff that makes sense from a selfish point of view.

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Speaker 2: The Australian case even had the woman moving miles from

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Speaker 2: town so she could drop her kid off at a

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Speaker 2: special school they'd selected. That said Westpac was the lifestyle choice,

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Speaker 2: which unquestionably it was, but tough luck, said the court.

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Speaker 2: The woman won. So maybe acc are on the hiding

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Speaker 2: to nothing. Let's see, but specific sociede work is a

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Speaker 2: quid pro quo and taking the mickey, which is what

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Speaker 2: work from home is now that you aren't locked down,

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Speaker 2: isn't a balanced relationship. It's a material shift born of

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Speaker 2: necessity and then abused.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: The matter they accused of the train stabbing in Britain's

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Speaker 2: been and court.

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Speaker 4: He spoke very quietly to confirm his name, and when

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Speaker 4: was asked about his address he said no fixed abode.

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Speaker 4: For most of that brief hearing, he hung his head low,

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Speaker 4: looking down, looking at the floor.

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Speaker 2: They released a video of the moment they took him

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Speaker 2: down down. The question, of course, is taking a train safe.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that we're doing immediately is we

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Speaker 5: are increasing the visible patrols that people will see at stations,

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Speaker 5: because I do recognize that people need reassurance.

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Speaker 2: Which allows the Tories, of course, to make it political.

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Speaker 6: Top five percent of neighborhoods for crime, which often includes

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Speaker 6: train stations, represent a quarter of all crime, so intense

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Speaker 6: search policing in those areas is the first thing we need. Secondly,

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Speaker 6: we need to use more technology, things like life facial recognition.

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Speaker 2: Also in Britain, the bloke who runs Ryan here isn't

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Speaker 2: looking forward to the budget and isn't a fan of

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Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves.

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Speaker 7: Rachel Reeves hasn't a rashers how to deliver growth. And

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Speaker 7: until she starts recovering these insane taxes and stop trying

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Speaker 7: to tax wealth, the UK is doomed to continue. Economy

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Speaker 2: And then on the fandom front, Election day tomorrow in

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Speaker 2: New York, Mendami most likely to when Trump is repeated

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Speaker 2: as threat to pull funds from the city if he does.

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Speaker 6: Now, Donald Trump may speak as if it is his decision,

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Speaker 6: but this is money that this city is old.

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Speaker 3: This is money that we will expect to collect.

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Speaker 2: Finally, advice on toothbrushing from the intergroup who say, one

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Speaker 2: ninety Chinese factory activity is still not good out of China.

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid to tell you new export orders. That's data.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday on October fell quickest pace. They fell at their

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Speaker 2: quickest pace ince May. Business confidence has slipped. That now

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Speaker 2: at its lowest level in six months as well. Eleven

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Speaker 8: Had to tell her good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 4: We go.

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Speaker 2: We got some life here, we got some hammer swinging.

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Speaker 9: They have Actually this is building consents and I'm not

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Speaker 9: actually talking to a home builder's conference later on this week.

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Speaker 9: All the crowd, good folk at Navigation Homes, and I

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Speaker 9: think they can be cautiously optimistic about this number, and

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Speaker 9: I think home builders generally will welcome some good news,

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Speaker 9: won't they. Building consent data for September released yesterday by

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Speaker 9: Stats New Zealand. But building concents have actually been remarkably stable, Mike.

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Speaker 9: Since about mid late twenty twenty three. They've been sort

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Speaker 9: of sort of quite flatlining. And that's after having grown,

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Speaker 9: of course, very strongly from two thousand and ten eleven

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Speaker 9: But the last two and three months they're definitely starting

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Speaker 9: to lift. So you had three seven hundred and forty

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Speaker 9: seven new homes consented in September. That's the raw number

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Speaker 9: you apply the seasonal adjustments, and it's a seven point

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Speaker 9: two percent lift from August, which is strong, and it

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Speaker 8: For a couple of years now.

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Speaker 9: It's it's always a brave call, might to call a trend,

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Speaker 9: They called their trend numbers, and the trend numbers, as

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Speaker 9: I say, having been remarkably consistent in the last two months,

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Speaker 9: a definite uptick standalone houses one thy six hundred and one.

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Speaker 9: That's sixteen percent higher than last year, so there's big

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Speaker 9: lift there. And also multi unit consents they're actually up

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Speaker 9: thirty seven percent compared to last year. But you've got

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Speaker 9: nature they lumpy. Total consents cauter on quarter nine point

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Speaker 9: It's up three point six percent year on year, and

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Speaker 9: that's led by those multi unit homes. So look, I

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Speaker 9: wouldn't pop the champagne yet, but signs are that things

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Speaker 9: are getting better. And just one final point on this moke.

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Speaker 9: We spoke a couple of times in the last two

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Speaker 9: or three weeks. It's about something stirring in Auckland. Auckland's stirring,

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Speaker 9: ahead to twenty twenty six Auckland up six point eight

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Speaker 10: So what the heck?

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Speaker 9: Non residential really just going side was at the moment.

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Speaker 9: We haven't seen the left there yet, but yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is good news. Prices are stirring in Australia.

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Speaker 2: There's no point leaving the country because you can't afford

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Speaker 2: to house in Sydney anymore.

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Speaker 9: My gosh. So yeah, they're talking about what's happening here.

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Speaker 9: All good lead into really what's happening across the tasmum

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Speaker 9: because very fortunately they release building approval numbers yesterday as

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Speaker 9: Australia up twelve percent month a month. Gotta be careful

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Speaker 9: that they were very strong in Victoria, but that data

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Speaker 9: accelerating away again. If I, if I annualized the quarterly

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Speaker 9: Might because those numbers are those price numbers released against

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Speaker 9: you know, you've got this backdrop of lifting inflation and

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Speaker 9: falling job ads. Yesterday, so they had a Melbourne Institute

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Speaker 9: household spending was the lowest growth in the year.

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Speaker 8: So really mixed signals from the Aussie economy.

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Speaker 9: Mike they've got Melbourne Cup RBA today over there always

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Speaker 9: the chance of a bolt in the Melbourne Cup, but

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Speaker 9: no chance.

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Speaker 8: I don't think of a bolt to RBA rate cut,

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Speaker 8: no change.

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Speaker 2: Exactly what was going to be a change is no longer.

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Speaker 9: The val Jones sort of mixed signals from the US

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Speaker 9: day thirty four of shutdown tomorrow will be equaling the

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Speaker 9: and the Nasdaq up one hundred and fifty four points

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Speaker 9: The OSSI's yesterday gained point one five percent, that is

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Speaker 9: a small gain of the Interets fifty. Although I was

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Speaker 9: looking like on the last eleven training sessions, the Intertex

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Speaker 2: A very good question, Mike, will people working from home

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Speaker 11: The government at the time said that CZ had caused

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Speaker 3: I don't know who he is.

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Speaker 11: In twenty twenty five, his crypto exchange binance helped facilitate

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Speaker 2: The businesses Wild Liberty Financial. They've denied any influence in

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Speaker 2: Interesting developments in the louver hest It turns out to

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Speaker 2: go bolder and bigger on our cybersecurity crime issues. We've

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Speaker 14: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Are things worse or not?

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Speaker 14: Yes, more needs to be done to protect New Zealanders

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Speaker 2: When you say crime, what do you mean crime or

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Speaker 14: Cybercrime? So essentially, what these organized criminal syndicates are doing

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Speaker 14: is they're actually trafficking humans in these big kind of

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Speaker 2: So just explain that to me. I mean when you

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Speaker 14: So essentially they offer for these victims to come and

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Speaker 2: And whose jurisdiction does that particular activity fall.

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Speaker 14: It's so the activity is operating out of Southeast Asia, however,

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Speaker 14: it's targeting every single jurisdiction.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But what I'm saying is so I mean in

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Speaker 14: No, absolutely not. You know, we need to tighten things

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Speaker 14: to run nationwide anti skan campaigns with you know, things

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Speaker 14: like a simple message something like slow down, look around,

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Speaker 14: shut it down. It needs to be everywhere, from banks

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Speaker 2: Do you think we care or not? I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: one of those things that until it hits you, you

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Speaker 14: You Yes, there is a level of care. We are cautious,

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Speaker 14: We need to act now before we become the next

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Speaker 2: Is this a phishing type exercise where they just machine

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Speaker 2: do they find one?

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Speaker 14: Absolutely? You know, even if they can get one out

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Speaker 14: So the laws that are in the UK and one

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Speaker 14: So for example, with social media, you know there will

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Speaker 2: you should try working nine to five, commuting in peakr traffic,

438
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Speaker 2: paying for parking and fuel, and you might be able

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Speaker 2: to critique without sounding like you do. That is the

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Speaker 2: point of the opening comments in the show. You realize

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Speaker 2: five six years ago, that's what everybody did without thinking

442
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Speaker 2: about it. We did commute, we did park, we did

443
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Speaker 2: pay for petrol. COVID changed it now all of a

444
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Speaker 2: sudden that it was never to be apparently six forty.

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Speaker 1: Five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance.

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Speaker 3: Peace of Mind, New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: How are you I'm fine, thank you. Make now the

448
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Speaker 2: sixth doll of the Sheen Thing, Sheen Shine, how is it?

449
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Speaker 2: Do you know that the six dole thing only appears

450
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Speaker 2: to be a thing in France? How did that happen?

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Speaker 16: Who knows? Mike, who knows? But it really could not

452
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Speaker 16: have come at a worse time for Sheen. This sort

453
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Speaker 16: of huge e commerce online retailer was due on Wednesday.

454
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Speaker 16: What is due on Wednesday to open its first physical store.

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Speaker 16: It's going to be in central Paris, the heart of Paris,

456
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Speaker 16: right opposite Paristown Hall. So it was already you know,

457
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Speaker 16: giving a lot of publicity here because there's been a

458
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Speaker 16: lot of questions about it's the way it operates, not

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Speaker 16: just the working conditions, but also the environmental impact of

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Speaker 16: this fast fashion that creates. So yeah, Over the weekend

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Speaker 16: it emerged that in front Rance this Shine was selling

462
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Speaker 16: childlike sex dolls. Now we've seen pictures of them. It's

463
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Speaker 16: a dole around the size of a one year old girl.

464
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Speaker 16: This girl is clutching a teddy bear and there was

465
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Speaker 16: also some sexually explicit captions to this advertisement. Now, consumer

466
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Speaker 16: watchdog went crazy said it's against the law. You cannot

467
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Speaker 16: sell child porn pornography. You can't sell sex dolls online

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Speaker 16: in France, and now we've got the finance minister who

469
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Speaker 16: has said that if this happens again then the company

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Speaker 16: will be banned from France. I mean it seems big, Mike.

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Speaker 16: But here's the thing. France has already find this company

472
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Speaker 16: three times in twenty twenty five. It's been a total

473
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Speaker 16: of three hundred and eighty million New Zealand dollars in

474
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Speaker 16: fines failing to comply with online cookie legislation, false advertising

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Speaker 16: and misleading information, and not declare presence of plastic microbes

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Speaker 16: and some Vick's products. So already was looking bad. Wasn't

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Speaker 16: going to be an easy opening. The other point, Mike,

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Speaker 16: I don't know if you have ever been in Paris

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Speaker 16: around Christmas time. One of the big things about Christmas

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Speaker 16: and the stores at Central Paris are their Christmas window displays. Well,

481
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Speaker 16: Disney was meant to do the window display for the

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Speaker 16: shop where she was going to be having, or is

483
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Speaker 16: supposed to have its store opened this Wednesday. Disney pulled

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Speaker 16: out and said it would have nothing to do with

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Speaker 16: this company. So what looked as though was going to

486
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Speaker 16: be a sort of easy entrance into the retail side

487
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Speaker 16: for this company now looks as though it's actually going

488
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Speaker 16: to have a few difficult weeks ahead of it.

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Speaker 2: Right the loave the petty criminal thing fascinates me because

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Speaker 2: that is quite something to ride your truck up to

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Speaker 2: the window and do what they did. I mean, just

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Speaker 2: reeks of organized crime and yet apparently.

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Speaker 16: Not so it did reagive it. But what of course,

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Speaker 16: the Paris prosecutors saying that changes it from your organized

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Speaker 16: crime to a group of petty criminals is what they

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Speaker 16: left behind the clues. Apparently they left behind a lot

497
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Speaker 16: of DNA. When they opened up those cabinets inside the lob,

498
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Speaker 16: a lot of DNA was left behind there. They left

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Speaker 16: behind tools. They don't forget, Mike. They dropped that famous

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Speaker 16: crown and Presugenie's crown, They dropped that DNA all over that.

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Speaker 16: They dropped a scooter helmet that had DNA on that

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Speaker 16: as well. All sorts of DNA were left behind. And

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Speaker 16: it's only because, according to the prosecutor, so many of

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Speaker 16: the actual people who carried out this raid they had

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Speaker 16: criminal records, so parents police had their DNA on part,

506
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Speaker 16: which is why they were able to go and get them.

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Speaker 16: So what they're saying is your organized crime group would

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Speaker 16: not have made these simple mistakes that these guys made.

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Speaker 2: What's the bigger deal they've got them. They'll stick them

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Speaker 2: in court, presumably they'll get stuck in jail or actually

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Speaker 2: finding what they nicked.

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Speaker 16: Well, they'll be in jail for a while because this

513
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Speaker 16: will take a long and having to get to court.

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Speaker 16: But they really do want to get the jewels back,

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Speaker 16: the crown jewels back. The thing is, Mike, you know,

516
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Speaker 16: so many French people didn't even realize they had these

517
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Speaker 16: crowd jewels, so now everyone wants to see them again.

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Speaker 16: But you know, think back to that Kim Kardashian robbery

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Speaker 16: during Paris Fashion Week. They never found those jewels, No,

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Speaker 16: they didn't, all right, Catherine ketch Up soon appreciate it

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Speaker 16: very much, Catherine Field and France.

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Speaker 2: Just by the way, in that part of the world,

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Speaker 2: in the Netherlands, this next Perier thing is increasingly fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Next Perier is a Chinese company that the Dutch government

525
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Speaker 2: took over a couple of weeks ago. Told you about

526
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Speaker 2: it on the show at the time. What they do

527
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Speaker 2: is they make chips, not the nvidiotype chips, but the

528
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Speaker 2: chips that make your car seat go warm or move anyway.

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Speaker 2: There's a massive supply chain issue. So then got angsty

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Speaker 2: between the US Wingtech, which is the Chinese company. They're

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Speaker 2: the ones who owned the next Perrier, and the Dutch government.

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Speaker 2: So the car manufacturers all over the world as we

533
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Speaker 2: speak are freaking out. Supply chain hangs in the balance

534
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Speaker 2: threatens vehicle production all over the world. Now, the Chinese

535
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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours of going, oh, we'll

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Speaker 2: loosen things up, don't worry about it. But there's nothing

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Speaker 2: more than that. So watch this space.

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Speaker 3: Are we going to have cold bums?

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Speaker 2: Well that was then, don't you forget. You remember during

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Speaker 2: COVID when all the car factories stopped, they started pulling

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Speaker 2: out cars all of a sudden that said you can

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Speaker 2: have a seat heater, but you can't and so people

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Speaker 2: book you had to pay a subscription exactly. Yeah, So anyway,

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Speaker 2: watch this space to see where it goes. Nine away

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Speaker 2: from seven.

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Speaker 1: The make Hosking breakfast with the Defender and use TOGSADB Now.

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Speaker 2: God bless Radio New Zealand. I don't say that very often,

548
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Speaker 2: but they finally got to the bottom of the problem.

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Speaker 2: I asked. The day that the CGT was announced by

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Speaker 2: the Labor Party, we rang Hepkins office and Hipkin's office said,

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Speaker 2: because the big question was this post July twenty seventh thing,

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Speaker 2: how are you going to value property? This so called profit?

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Speaker 2: They said, quote unquote its valuation day. They invented it

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Speaker 2: its valuation day. What the hell that meant? Anyway? Then

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Speaker 2: they referred to the working group, the Tax Working Group,

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Speaker 2: which was another thing, but they didn't give any details

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Speaker 2: around the Tax Working Group. I mean, what exactly in

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Speaker 2: the Tax Working Group are we going to look at

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Speaker 2: to see to work out what our property is worth

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Speaker 2: in July of twenty seven, so we can when we

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Speaker 2: go to sell the property, work out what the profit

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Speaker 2: is if there is a profit, and there for what

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Speaker 2: the tax is. Well, it turns out we're not going

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Speaker 2: to be told until after the election.

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Speaker 8: Didn't you know?

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Speaker 2: This was the sneaky sort of low rent, back handed

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Speaker 2: nonsense that the Labor Party would be into. So Barbara Edmonds,

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Speaker 2: future Finance Minister, party would follow the Tax Working Group's

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Speaker 2: recommendation to get the right balance between accuracy and simplicity

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Speaker 2: for taxpayers. That doesn't even mean anything and she confer

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Speaker 2: many of the details would be ironed out. The details

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Speaker 2: would be ironed out after the election. So if you

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Speaker 2: vote for that sucked in good five to seven.

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Speaker 3: Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 3: business paper. Take your business productivity to the next left.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what. The EV market is going gangbusters in

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Speaker 2: America at the moment. The incentives ended, of course in September.

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Speaker 2: So what's oh, sorry, my apologies. The markets collapsed darted

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Speaker 2: this morning from Ford. They were third in US EV sales,

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Speaker 2: which really doesn't mean you think, because very few evs

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Speaker 2: were sold, whether you were first, second, or third. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: they've seen just the twenty five percent drop on year

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Speaker 2: on year sales in October. The Mustan three fell twelve percent.

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Speaker 2: The F one fifty Lightning, which was a mistake right

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Speaker 2: from the start. I mean, if you're gonna build an

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Speaker 2: F one fifty, build a proper one with a massive

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Speaker 2: V eight only way to go anyway, the electric version

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Speaker 2: of that seventeen percent down. Kia Top EV models felled

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Speaker 2: fifty two percent. Uh Hundi though Hundai just down seventy

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Speaker 2: one percent compared with last year. The Ionique five, it's

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Speaker 2: down eighty percent. The Ionic nine is down seventy one percent.

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Speaker 2: So of course everyone's sort of front loaded and said, oh,

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Speaker 2: the you know subsidy is going to win, so I

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Speaker 2: go buy my Ionique one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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Speaker 2: eight nine before the subsidy was gone, and then when

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Speaker 2: it's gone now as buying Ionic anything so or if

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Speaker 2: one fifty anythings. They're just buying cars with big engines

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Speaker 2: because petrol in that particular part of the world is

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Speaker 2: relatively inexpensive. Got some very good news on the economy

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Speaker 2: for you. So we've got demand for money is up.

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Speaker 2: People into the mortgage markets. Our first time buyers are

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Speaker 2: very active at the moment, so new numbers on the

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Speaker 2: credit market if you like. We also have the building

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Speaker 2: consent numbers. We are starting to build again, so that

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Speaker 2: is good. So we'll cover that in the next half hour.

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Speaker 2: Then Liam Lawson is in for a catch up after

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Speaker 2: eight o'clock on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: Credible, Compelling, the breakfast show You count Bess.

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Speaker 1: It's the mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veta, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way News.

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Speaker 2: Togs Head b past seven. Well it's only Tuesday. The

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Speaker 2: housing market getting good press already yesterday. Some decent price

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Speaker 2: numbers are today. New data on mortgage lending up twenty

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Speaker 2: one percent a year on year. Credit demand has risen

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Speaker 2: over five percent, arrears of falling a business, credit demands

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Speaker 2: up three and a half percent. Hospit leading the way there.

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Speaker 2: Keith McLaughlin, Centric's managing director, Keith Morning, Good morning, Mike, Hey,

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Speaker 2: are we in summer? Are there shoots all around us?

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Speaker 2: Is the light at the end of the tunnel? Have

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Speaker 2: we arrived on the promised land? Keith Well, Sidney.

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Speaker 13: The trend is very, very favorable, Mike. I think the

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Speaker 13: fact that consumer confidence is rising. That's evidenced by the

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Speaker 13: fact that consumers are confident now to go out and

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Speaker 13: buy our money to buy goods. We've seen a growing

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Speaker 13: trend as far as that's concerned. And also the fact

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Speaker 13: that consumer areas are falling away. I think there's a

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Speaker 13: sign that households continue to manage their budgets for very effectively.

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Speaker 2: Some people text me every time these numbers come out

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Speaker 2: and go credit demand is not good. That's a sign

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Speaker 2: that people aren't coping and they need more money. Is

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Speaker 2: that true or not?

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Speaker 13: No, I don't think it is it's a sign that

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Speaker 13: people have confidence. I Uwies generally don't borrow money or

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Speaker 13: buy things unless they know they can afford to repay it.

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Speaker 13: Q is a pretty genuine as far as it's concerned.

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Speaker 13: And the fact that they can now go out and

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Speaker 13: put money down on a house or or buy a

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Speaker 13: household items with the confidence they are going to retain

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Speaker 13: their job and have the ability to repay it, that

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Speaker 13: certainly stimulates the economy, and small to medium sized businesses

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Speaker 13: certainly need their stimulation at the.

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Speaker 2: Moment they do. Indeed, what do you make I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got a view, but the numbers,

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Speaker 2: the confidence numbers that came out last Friday were still doer.

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Speaker 2: And yet when you look at the facts where something different.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain that?

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Speaker 13: Well, I think when you look at the consumer market,

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Speaker 13: I think for a period of time now that's been

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Speaker 13: trending upwards and looking quite confident. The real concern that

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Speaker 13: that I think is out there at the moment is

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Speaker 13: small to medium sized businesses and the number of liquidations

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Speaker 13: that are out there at the moment. I mean, unfortunately

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Speaker 13: it's not that high, but it certainly is trendy high.

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Speaker 13: And I think it's going to continue for some time.

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Speaker 13: And it's that uncertainty around the business sector that creates

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Speaker 13: the concern.

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Speaker 2: Have we got competition among the banks? Are they keen

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Speaker 2: to get money out there if we're keen to borrow it?

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Speaker 13: Oh? Yes, I believe so. I think the thanks you know,

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Speaker 13: they're fighting for market share, and they don't thin there's

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Speaker 13: a lott of love loss between them as far as

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Speaker 13: competition is concerned.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Are the first home buyers active? As that mortgage money

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Speaker 2: going to first home buyers.

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Speaker 13: It's a combination of both first home buyers and also

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Speaker 13: refinancing a bit irrespective of which one of those two

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Speaker 13: it is. I mean first home buyers, yes, good to

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Speaker 13: see it and get in and get reasonable rates for

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Speaker 13: their mortgages. But even people moving from one leander to another,

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Speaker 13: this means that are coming in at lower rates than

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Speaker 13: there were previously, which puts more money back into their

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Speaker 13: budgets and therefore, hopefully they'll spend it in the local market.

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Speaker 2: On a vibe thing, here is where I'm at. I

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Speaker 2: think this is real. I think it's turned, it's on,

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Speaker 2: and I think next year it could go quite quickly

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Speaker 2: in a positive direction. Would you disagree with me vehemently.

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Speaker 13: No, I would not disagree with you. I think we

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Speaker 13: were the numbers that we're through at the moment. The

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Speaker 13: numbers we're seeing certain support the fact that we are

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Speaker 13: sitting strongly trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Keith. Always a pleasure to have you on

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Speaker 2: the program. Keith McLoughlin, Centric's managing directed to him in

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Speaker 2: it's past seven. We're not done with housing yet either.

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Speaker 2: Building consents have risen three months straight September up seven

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Speaker 2: percent on August twenty seven percent higher than a year ago.

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Speaker 2: September also saw the highest number of new homes consented

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Speaker 2: in more than two years. Malcolm Fleming is the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand Cervid builder's CEO, and he's with there's Malcolm morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning. You're seeing and feeling it.

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Speaker 17: Yes, we're seeing a trend, which is most welcome news.

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Speaker 17: We're seeing it on the ground as well. I'm hearing

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Speaker 17: from members that are starting against greater levels of inquiry.

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Speaker 17: Projects that have been sitting on the back BURNI for

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Speaker 17: a little while. We're starting to come to the forge.

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Speaker 2: Is it all Queenstown on Auckland or is it spread

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Speaker 2: more widely.

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Speaker 17: Notice spread more widely than that, and we're still focusing

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Speaker 17: here on new home consents, but elsewhere in the market.

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Speaker 17: We had some welcome news from the government. About six

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Speaker 17: weeks ago, you might recall, Mike, we had the school

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Speaker 17: works our projects so ready to go, and then the

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Speaker 17: following day we had six hundred remain ods with the

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Speaker 17: Defense Housing. So all again we welcome news.

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Speaker 2: That's what we call a pipeline, isn't it, Malcolm.

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Speaker 17: We needed a pipeline. The pipeline was blocked and we've

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Speaker 17: had some unblockage along with this new house and content work.

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Speaker 17: It's coming through all the consenting round that it's coming through,

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Speaker 17: and of course I see our drops as well. It's

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Speaker 17: all starting to amalgamate to the positive picture and.

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Speaker 2: You think it's tangible, it's real, and it will flow

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Speaker 2: into next year.

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Speaker 17: I think we're going to see in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 17: We were starting to see that list that we've been

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Speaker 17: looking for for quite some time and we couldn't put

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Speaker 17: this recovery off any longer.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Malcolm appreciated very much. Malcolm Fleming, can you

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Speaker 2: handle the good news? New Zealand certified build a CEO

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Speaker 2: and stand by for this twelve past seven tsking. I

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Speaker 2: hate to say I told you so, but I told

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Speaker 2: you so several times over. I said, at some point

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Speaker 2: somewhere before this is over, someone is going to come

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Speaker 2: in at three nine nine, and when they do, leap

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Speaker 2: all over it. This morning, SPS bank three nine nine

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Speaker 2: for one or two years. Now, don't follow my financial advice.

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Speaker 2: Do whatever you like. I don't care. All I'm saying

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Speaker 2: is that my waters, my spidery senses tell me three

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Speaker 2: nine nines as good as it's going to get. And

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Speaker 2: if you're waiting for better than that, it ain't gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen past the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at b By the way,

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Speaker 2: a very good piece on Business Desk just goes through

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Speaker 2: the various economists who say that things are their early signs.

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Speaker 2: The economy is turning a corner, green shoots are emerging,

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Speaker 2: that Sharon Zolner better times are ahead, that Stephen Topless

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Speaker 2: Ben said, So Business Desk has got that particular piece

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Speaker 2: of information. While I'm on the banks, generally Westpac yesterday

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Speaker 2: thirteen percent profit jumps, so they're making money and lots

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Speaker 2: of it their net interest margin. Now we're going to

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Speaker 2: have to keep a very close eye on this because

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Speaker 2: the great argument from the retail banks on their net

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Speaker 2: interest margin, which by the way, rose by fifteen basis

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Speaker 2: points two point three two percent. In other words, what

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Speaker 2: they their money in at and what they lended out at,

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Speaker 2: that's their margin, that's their profit, that's their hay, their cream,

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Speaker 2: their clover. At two point three two percent. They always

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Speaker 2: argued it was higher than Australia because of our regulatory

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Speaker 2: requirements and what the Reserve Bank asked of them and

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Speaker 2: putting money aside for a rainy day. Now those rules

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Speaker 2: have changed. And yet I see and this is retrospectabile

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Speaker 2: grant you that. So this is you know, this is

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Speaker 2: businesses that has been done. But that number better squeeze

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Speaker 2: or else I'm going to be asking some questions. Meantime,

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Speaker 2: across the Tasman Westpac in Australia they sold off their

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Speaker 2: RAMS business. I won't bore your witness with that, but

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Speaker 2: that was a business that didn't go particularly well for

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Speaker 2: them anyway, they flicked it off. They had a six

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Speaker 2: point nine billion dollar profit, which is a one percent

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Speaker 2: drop their margin rows by three points. So all in all,

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Speaker 2: I mean, what the rest of the banks are coming

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Speaker 2: in the next week or so. But all we found

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Speaker 2: out is that banking is a very very lucrative sort

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Speaker 2: of business. Which is ironic because yesterday the Reserve Bank,

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Speaker 2: who have been stress testing our banks, came out yet

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Speaker 2: again in one of those exercises. You think, why do

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Speaker 2: these people keep doing it? I mean, I don't mind

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Speaker 2: every now and again to have a look at the

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Speaker 2: banks to see whether they could survive a rainy day.

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Speaker 2: But I think we know that through the GFC and

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Speaker 2: COVID that we survived very nicely, thank you, and we've

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Speaker 2: got no problems in this particular part of the world.

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Speaker 2: With solid banks anyway, they are quote unquote well placed

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Speaker 2: to withstand a severe economic downturn. So they looked at

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Speaker 2: ANZASBB and Zqwybank and Westpact global downturn triggered by a

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Speaker 2: geopolitical shock. That was the scenario in which they tested

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Speaker 2: the banks. First scenario was a deep recession, output falling

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Speaker 2: six and a half percent, unemployment rising to ten and

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Speaker 2: a half percent, house prices falling thirty five percent. They

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Speaker 2: all passed that test, so that's fairly dramatic second test,

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Speaker 2: severe run on deposits during a recession. They also tested

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Speaker 2: on a failure of a transformational project ie and IT

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Speaker 2: program that they cocked up. So could they afford the

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Speaker 2: bill if they cocked it up? And the answer on

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Speaker 2: all three questions was yes. So another was we've got

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Speaker 2: very successful, well established banks, So we liked that part

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Speaker 2: of it. Morning, Mike, what's the rain going to do

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Speaker 2: for Buckaroo? Very good question. Don't we all want to

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Speaker 2: know the answer to that. We've got an expert from

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Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup Brent Thompson, as well as before eight

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Speaker 2: o'clock Mike, how are we at record with hardship? KEI,

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Speaker 2: we saber withdrawals, but are spending more as consumers? Excellent question,

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad you asked. So you've got to be

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Speaker 2: careful on a couple of things. First of all, you

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Speaker 2: got two economies, so suggest that things are coming right

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Speaker 2: in the economy is to not misrepresent those who are struggling,

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Speaker 2: but it is to say that the percentages are the

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Speaker 2: things you need to look at. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: when the newsrooms are classic at this, because all they

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Speaker 2: do these days is process press releases, is when you

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Speaker 2: see something from the press to go to it's up

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Speaker 2: twelve percent, you go ooh, up to it? From what

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Speaker 2: to what? Is never asked? From what to what? And

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Speaker 2: more importantly, of the increase in hardship withdrawals, what percentage

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Speaker 2: of that actual money is represented by the overall size

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Speaker 2: of the pie? In other words, if KII Saber is

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Speaker 2: many many many many, many, many many many billions of dollars,

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Speaker 2: which it is, what's a handful of millions? And the

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Speaker 2: answer is it's not as big a deal as is

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Speaker 2: often made out. Mike, I'm a Nole's supporter, but I'm

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Speaker 2: really confused. As Noline, I'm really confused about a couple

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Speaker 2: of things. Since yesterday on your show, she told us

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Speaker 2: there was no review and she did not know why

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Speaker 2: she was stood down. However, I understand that later in

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Speaker 2: the day she came back and said she didn't know

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Speaker 2: the specifics and that she was part of a review.

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Speaker 2: I just feel different things are being told to us.

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Speaker 2: You make a very good point, and this is what

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Speaker 2: Nolean said late in the day. I was not clear

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Speaker 2: enough that I was involved in the review process. A

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Speaker 2: summary of the concerns that the players raised through the

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Speaker 2: players association was shared with me, which I responded to

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Speaker 2: as part of the process. The review did not get

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Speaker 2: into specific details or allegations in a way that we

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Speaker 2: could identify individual players. So those are the details I

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Speaker 2: don't have. I can appreciate why anonymity is important, but

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Speaker 2: I did find that difficult. My focus now is on

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Speaker 2: putting in place the agreed changes we need to strengthen

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Speaker 2: the silver Ferns, the high performance environment and to get

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Speaker 2: back to doing what I love coaching. So hopefully that

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Speaker 2: clears that fit up. What isn't cleared up is what

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Speaker 2: we're actually dealing with, and from what I'm hearing, I

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Speaker 2: wish I could tell you what it is, because I

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Speaker 2: think I know, and if I use the appropriate word

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Speaker 2: for it, you'd go anew it. And that's why it's

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Speaker 2: so vague, so opaque, and unable to be nailed down

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Speaker 2: in a way that any of us can truly understand.

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Speaker 2: One day it will come out, and when it does,

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Speaker 2: you'll know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: This is what we've been talking about this morning. Just when,

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Speaker 2: just when will it be a good time to buy

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Speaker 2: a large household item? He the A and Z can

867
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: hum confidence figures out Friday sunk again. Business up eight

868
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: percent eight points. Punters down to household items are fridge.

869
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: We haven't felt good about buying a fridge in any

870
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 2: month for four years, forty eight long months, month after month.

871
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: It's no time to be sticking a bit of Samsung

872
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 2: or sub zero or Melea on your house apparently, And

873
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: yet how can business feel half decent given the people

874
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: they deal with are miserable? And how is it? As

875
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: the bank pointed out that the stats don't actually align

876
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 2: with our mood. Spending us up, I repeat up, No,

877
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 2: not by a lot. This isn't the gold rush, but

878
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: spending us up. The job adds up. There are more

879
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 2: jobs being advertised. My bet is when the unemployment stats

880
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: arrived this week, it'll be five point two five point three.

881
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: But that'll be it. It'll get no worse. The layoffs are over.

882
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: There are genuine, tangible and disputable signs in the economy

883
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: that things have turned call them whatever you want, flickers,

884
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: green shoots, better days, but they are there now. Like

885
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: all economies, the tie doesn't rise and bring everyone with it,

886
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: but it has it has to bring some. Some must

887
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: be feeling better or good, or God forbid. Upbeat? Is

888
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: there a determination among some too many, that we will

889
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: simply not be happy? We refuse to accept the light

890
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 2: at the end of the tunnel. Where once a trip

891
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: to the seaside in an ice cream on a sunny

892
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: day lifted the spirit. Now we want the whole circus

893
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 2: in a merch bag as well before we dare utter

894
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 2: anything remotely upbeat. I got no doubt, no doubt the

895
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 2: tide has turned. I see too many data points, too

896
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: many stats, too many results to feel any other way.

897
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 2: But New Zealand has caught a disease. You see it

898
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: in Britain particularly, they got it, they got it bad,

899
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: and also a little bit in Australia at the moment.

900
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 2: A refusal to accept good news the way we used to.

901
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: Where once the possibility was enough to lift a spirit,

902
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: now you need a tsunami to bowl you over. The

903
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: early bird, as always, will catch the worm on this

904
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: by the time we hit February or March of next

905
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: year and a lot of people joined the bandwagon. The

906
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: early adopters will have been having a good time for months.

907
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: It's only negative if it's actually factually negative, being determined

908
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: to be that way as a state of mind, not

909
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: a realityscar like. You're missing some bigger picture economic points. One,

910
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: global bond market yields are going up. That means the

911
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: real cost of money is going up. Two inflations at

912
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: three percent trending up again. This is a global trend. Three,

913
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: there is a massive global credit bubble. One day it

914
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: will burst and twenty twenty six will be a shocker. Grant,

915
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 2: you're wrong, and it's a very good point you made,

916
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: and it's a great discussion to have. But all that's

917
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: happening in the market, which is of course correct, you're right,

918
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: is driven by cash, and the people who are blowing

919
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: this bubble up have the money. So it's not Lehman Brothers,

920
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: where the credit crunches and no money flows and the

921
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 2: banks freak out. It is not COVID where everything closes

922
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: down and we don't know where we're going or what

923
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: happens next door, whether we will ever get out of it.

924
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: It is simply a lot of people with a tremendous

925
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: amount of money just buying stuff that unquestionably will pop.

926
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: There's no question AI is going to pop and all

927
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: the other nonsense around. It's going to pop. It won't

928
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: pop catastrophically, it will just pop. An ah, well that's

929
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 2: over kind of way. So I am the least full

930
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: of a financial crisis than I have been, certainly in

931
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Speaker 2: COVID and certainly in the GFC, and having gone through

932
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Speaker 2: two and potentially a third, this is the one that

933
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Speaker 2: we need to worry least about, in my humble opinion.

934
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Speaker 2: Liam Lawson back on the programme after eight, looking forward

935
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Speaker 2: to the catch up the Education Minister with news It's next.

936
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Speaker 3: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

937
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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast were the defender embraced the impossible

938
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: news Togs dead by.

939
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: Three minutes away from Liam Lawson's in Palm Springs, Arizona

940
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: at the moment. He's not Palms Springs, completely separate state,

941
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: but he's in Arizona, and you know that doesn't matter

942
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: where he is. He's heading to Brazil. More important, he's

943
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: going to be on the WhatsApp to me shortly. Very

944
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: poor start to the half hour twenty three minutes away

945
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 2: through eight. One of the great cultural and educational frauds

946
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: is at last being undone by the government. So the

947
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: Education Minister has written to all school boards explaining her

948
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Speaker 2: rationale for removing the requirement for school boards to give

949
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: effect to tetidity Oh White tangy. So the twenty twenty

950
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: change it was implemented on labor of course, made no

951
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: measurable difference. What a surprise to MARI achievement and distracted

952
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 2: boards from their core duties. Anyway, Erica Stamford's with us

953
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: a very good morning.

954
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Speaker 3: To you, Good morning mate.

955
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: Was this virtual signaling signaling nonsense?

956
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 18: Well, it certainly didn't make any difference. I mean, if

957
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 18: you are laser focused on raising achievement and raising achievement

958
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 18: for Mary students, you undertake the reforms that we're undertaking,

959
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 18: which have already for the first time in two decade,

960
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 18: seen a measurable improvement in MARII early Mary reading data.

961
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 18: Those are the things that you do. But just putting

962
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 18: some words that are relatively difficult to interpret it onto

963
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 18: a school board isn't going to make any difference.

964
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 19: And we've seen that, right.

965
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Can you interpret them? What is it that they were

966
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: expected to do specifically in recognizing testidity, Oh White Hongy.

967
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 18: Well, that's a good question, and I'm not entirely certain.

968
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 18: There were some things that the board were told they

969
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 18: had to do, and we've clarified those. You must work

970
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 18: to raise MARI achievement and ensure equable outcomes. You must

971
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 18: teach today omari in your school for those who ask

972
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 18: for it. And you must be culturally competent to the

973
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 18: needs of your students in the school. Those things are

974
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 18: very important, but they are very clear, and they tell

975
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 18: a board exactly what to do. But just a vague

976
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 18: statement that is conferring a treaty duty from the crown

977
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 18: where it rightfully sits to a board of trustees of volunteer,

978
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 18: well meaning parents is not reasonable.

979
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Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong. So what then happened? And

980
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 2: having been through this myself with kids and your a

981
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: parent as well, what then happened is everyone panicked and

982
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: didn't want to be caught out or had a finger

983
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: pointed at them, so they just just spread liberally all

984
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 2: over their environment something they thought would be right to

985
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: no great end. Is that fair?

986
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 18: Well, what they didn't do, Mike teach structured literacy, do

987
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 18: an hour a day of reading, writing, and maths. Make

988
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 18: sure that we're assessing early literacy to see if children

989
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 18: are improving and if they're not intervene early having a

990
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 18: clear curriculum. I mean, those are all of the things

991
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 18: that raise achievement, and now for the first time, we're

992
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 18: seeing that achievement is rising, and that's what we need.

993
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 18: School boards to be focused on raising achievement, getting kids

994
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 18: to school, keeping them safe.

995
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: Right are you do you think going to get a

996
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: welcome sigh of relief from boards or are you expecting pushback?

997
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 18: I think what will happen is the usual suspects in

998
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 18: the unions will have a go. But actually I'm just

999
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 18: out here fighting for kids and what is the best

1000
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 18: for them when I'm interested in outcomes and not what

1001
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 18: the unions have to say.

1002
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so materially does it change or not?

1003
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 18: I think that will be a stronger focus on board

1004
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 18: on raising achievement, getting our kids to school. That's what

1005
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 18: these changes do. There is still a requirement. We still

1006
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 18: want schools to make sure that they are being culturally

1007
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 18: relevant and that they are offering today a marty for

1008
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 18: those children who want it and that they are raising

1009
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 18: Mary achievement. But we're being very clear about those things.

1010
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 2: Those schools would do that because a good school does

1011
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: what the community wants. I mean, you don't have to

1012
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: spell it out, do you.

1013
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 18: Well, some boards will. I think we do need to

1014
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 18: be clear about some of those things because the look,

1015
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 18: my belief is still that the Crown has an obligation

1016
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 18: to the Treaty of White Angy to make sure that

1017
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 18: we are providing good education and that there are good outcomes,

1018
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 18: and also that we're protecting today Amari as well. So

1019
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 18: it is important that we do have those outlined in

1020
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 18: what a board has to do. But we're very clear

1021
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,640
Speaker 18: and precise about those things rather than a vague statement

1022
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 18: that is difficult to interpret.

1023
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: On related matters, You're in Sydney last week, so you

1024
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 2: may have missed I don't know anyway, this moaning about

1025
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 2: the curriculum. They were the people. They seem to be going,

1026
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: Look what they're expecting a five year old to understand.

1027
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: Five year olds don't understand that. So have you missed

1028
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 2: the mark or have they teachers unions just dumbed kids

1029
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: down to a point where we have no great expectation anymore.

1030
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 18: I think it's definitely the latter. But also, I mean,

1031
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 18: you teach to the age of the child right now,

1032
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 18: there are, for example, in the science curriculum you learn

1033
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 18: about and I've forgotten his name.

1034
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 16: His name's Carl.

1035
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 18: He was the one who worked out how bees danced

1036
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 18: to communicate. You know, you're not expecting five year olds

1037
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 18: to remember his name. Gosh, I can't even remember it.

1038
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 18: But I mean, how interesting is it that he's danced

1039
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 18: and that's how they communicate to each other. I mean

1040
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 18: it's fascinating. And you've got the left in the in

1041
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 18: the in the Union saying, oh, don't teach kids facts

1042
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 18: because it stifles creativity. You can't be creative and you

1043
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,240
Speaker 18: can't think critically, and you you know, you can't problem

1044
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 18: solve if you don't don't have a base of knowledge

1045
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 18: and facts and know how to use those facts and

1046
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 18: when to use them. Otherwise you're just an empty vessel.

1047
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 18: I've seen so many people say, oh, kids don't need facts,

1048
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 18: they can just use AI. How ridiculous Carl can't comprehend. Yes,

1049
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 18: that's right, cold on fresh. Also their frastus. I think

1050
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 18: he's also in there about he's the father of botany.

1051
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 18: He decided what is a tree? What is a bush?

1052
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 18: What is a shrub? I mean you can get five

1053
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 18: year olds to have a whole bunch of pictures in

1054
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 18: front of them and like set, you know, sort these

1055
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 18: into which ones are trees, which ones are herbs, and say, hey,

1056
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 18: there was a guy who thought of this, and it

1057
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 18: was a long time ago, and his name was the Ephrastus,

1058
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 18: and he decided that these things would be grouped. I mean,

1059
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 18: you can teach five year olds that sort of thing,

1060
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 18: you know, because it's interesting and fascinating, and we're just

1061
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 18: limiting them if we think we can just get them

1062
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 18: to sit there and randomly think creatively without having some

1063
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 18: basis of knowledge to think creatively and you know, critically

1064
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 18: about very well.

1065
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Speaker 2: So SAP, appreciate your time as always. Eric A. Stampford,

1066
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Speaker 2: Education Minister, seventeen minutes away from eight for a small

1067
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Speaker 2: building supplies company and Hawk's by. It's been tough, but

1068
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Speaker 2: we are starting to see those green shoots and things

1069
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 2: heading in the right direction. Because of that, we're planning

1070
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 2: and investing in things like technology and marketing, knowing that

1071
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: the tide will turn. While I wish you nothing but

1072
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Speaker 2: the best. John Liam Lawson still to come on the program.

1073
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Speaker 2: We'll get to Melbourn for the Melbourne Cup as well.

1074
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Speaker 2: Seventeen to two The My Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast

1075
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Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks at B A lot

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Speaker 2: of I Love Erica texts is as usual these days

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Speaker 2: now from the European Journal of Nutrition, or if you

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Speaker 2: don't want to go to that, go to the Sydney

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00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: Morning Herald yesterday, yet another study on coffee. Is there

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00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 2: any bad news about coffee?

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00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 4: Now?

1082
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: Coffee has become if you're following the coffee story, I mean,

1083
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: coffee's been one of those things on the edge for

1084
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: a while that's got a bit of this and a

1085
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: bit of that, and it's quite good for you and

1086
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 2: maybe have two maybe a four. Wasn't that long ago,

1087
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 2: maybe a decade ago, that there was a group of

1088
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 2: people who thought that coffee could be bad for you.

1089
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 2: But the whole thing's turned chocolate and coffee's turned in

1090
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 2: the last decade. And the amount of material coming out

1091
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 2: on coffee now is ridiculous, and every single bit of

1092
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 2: it it's not just good, it's remarkable. And the latest

1093
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: one so read the Sunday Morning Herald Yesterday or the

1094
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: European Journal for Nutrition. If you happen to have a subscription.

1095
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: Let's be frankly, who doesn't. They looked as longitudinal two,

1096
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 2: which is the sort of study a like seven years

1097
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: everyone was fifty five plus aging study out of Amsterdam. Anyway,

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00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: it's fragility is the latest one. So certain frailty traits.

1099
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: If you're worried about things like unintentional weight loss, weakness, exhaustion,

1100
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: slow walking, speed glenn, low physical activity Glenn, I want to.

1101
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: Get some of that unintentional weight loss happening.

1102
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah. I don't know how to explain that.

1103
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 2: So you've got some weight gain plus slow walking could

1104
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: be connected. But that I'm on coffee. I'll come back

1105
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 2: to another day anyway. Point being, those are the signs

1106
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: of fragility. Two to four cups a day habit. All

1107
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: coffee consumption led to improvement in these areas and may

1108
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: reduce the risk of fragility in older adults. So you've

1109
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 2: got your cardio all of that other stuff. Now they

1110
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: think that fragility or fragile wise it can help you.

1111
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: So the more the more you read, the more you

1112
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 2: want to drink coffee is what it boils down to quickly.

1113
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: On Genesis, this is another one. We've got to keep

1114
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: up on this because it's important. This is fast track.

1115
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: So Auckland Port were the first cab off the rank.

1116
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: They were a success story. The Port of Auckland's been

1117
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: a massive turnaround story. I'm not saying that fast Track

1118
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: has been exclusively with that, but they have been able

1119
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: to do some business there under the new fast tracked laws.

1120
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 2: Latest is Genesis. This regards TECHAPO A and B the

1121
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 2: power stations quote them. A year into the process. They

1122
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: indicated that further delays were likely due to council hearing

1123
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: processes and potential appeals. So I know who's got time

1124
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 2: for that. Nonsinse, they've gone, they've gone fast track and

1125
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 2: they've got fast track and the scheme generates enough clean

1126
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: energy or clean electricity for two hundred and twenty eight

1127
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 2: thousand Canterbury households so they can get on with business.

1128
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: So this is all part of the overarching theme this morning.

1129
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: It's turned the tiders turning and it's things like this,

1130
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 2: tangible things like this that will make a difference in

1131
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,840
Speaker 2: our lives, and the sooner the better. TENN away from it.

1132
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

1133
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: The'd be Mike. The more important question about the TECHAPO

1134
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: fast track is why are we even doing this performative nonsense?

1135
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: Who would ever reject that consent? We have to operate it,

1136
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: So why waste so much time and money on something

1137
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 2: so critical? Very good question, and yet no shortage of lawyers,

1138
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 2: no shortage of council delays. And that is the way

1139
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 2: that life has been working in this country unfortunately for

1140
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 2: too long. Right first Tuesday in November, Melbourne Cup, if

1141
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: Steve was right, yesterday is going to be run under

1142
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: cloudy if not wet skies. No New Zealand train runners

1143
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: in the field this year. We do have some New

1144
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: Zealand bread too, New Zealand bred horses Toronzino and Smoke

1145
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 2: and Romans alongside the jockeys James McDonald, Michael D. Brent

1146
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: Thompson is former Champion Jockey Racing Hall of Famery as well.

1147
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: It's Brent morning, Good morning Mike, to be on your show.

1148
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: No worries it almost to have you on our show.

1149
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 2: Still early you got a sense of the weather and track.

1150
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 2: Is she going to rain all day.

1151
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 15: Well, looking out my window it's still very dark, but

1152
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 15: I did hear some rain overnight. And look, Flemington does

1153
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 15: hold hold the rain very well.

1154
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 10: It's a very.

1155
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 15: Good draining track. But I want to assume that it's

1156
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 15: probably going to be soft seven or something like that,

1157
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 15: depending on what happens during it during the day. But

1158
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 15: looks it is what it is, and we can't do

1159
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 15: much about the weather.

1160
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 2: No, indeed not. The overall quality of the field in

1161
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 2: your view is what.

1162
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 8: Look.

1163
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 15: Look, it's interesting, it's it would have to be a

1164
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 15: very open cup. There's loads of chances in it, and

1165
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 15: a lot of those chances actually do have wet track

1166
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 15: form as we as you alluded to, there's only a

1167
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 15: couple of New Zealand horses bred horses in the in

1168
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 15: the race. The rest has made up of virtually all European,

1169
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 15: one American horse and as in a French horse, so

1170
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 15: as we know, they all generally handle the soft track.

1171
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 15: Although one smooth operator is probably a bit of a

1172
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 15: bit one out in the gold square there because he

1173
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 15: doesn't really appreciate it by all accounts, and you know

1174
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 15: it had it been a good track, he was one

1175
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 15: of the chances what about Bukaroo.

1176
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean, our correspond's been telling us about this bloke

1177
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: has been on the I don't even know what sort

1178
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 2: of bet it is, but a buckaroo comes and he's

1179
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: going to earn sixteen billion dollars or whatever it is.

1180
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: Is Bukaroo a chance?

1181
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1182
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: Look, you know he.

1183
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 15: Last year, he ran well all year and this season

1184
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 15: he's been consistent without winning a race, but you know,

1185
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 15: he was a great second on the cocks Plate. You'd

1186
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 15: have to include him. You certainly couldn't leave him out.

1187
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 15: He's got Craig Williams on him, Melbourne Cup winning jockey

1188
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 15: riding in great form as well. But yeah, he's certainly

1189
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 15: one of the many chances, and we can obviously claim

1190
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 15: Chris Waller as a New Zealander.

1191
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 2: Is it still Does it still stop a nation? Or

1192
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: is it? Is that just a cliche these days? Is

1193
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: it still as big a deal as it ever was?

1194
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 15: It probably lost a little bit of it's its way

1195
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 15: because of the lack of Australian and New Zealand bread

1196
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 15: horses in the race become predominantly a europe European uh

1197
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 15: you know, bread runners in the race. So from that

1198
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 15: point of view, probably the average Australian is probably doesn't

1199
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 15: sort of hold it in the same sort of breath

1200
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 15: as it used to. But given that what we've seen

1201
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 15: here and what view would have seen on television viewing

1202
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 15: it from from New Zealand, the crowd factors have been amazing.

1203
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 15: Quite sad that the you know, given that the day

1204
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 15: is going to be where they'll lose a lot of

1205
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 15: people due to that, but the crowds have been amazing, So,

1206
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 15: you know, it seems as though racing has've got a

1207
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 15: bit of a resurgence where it was getting a bit

1208
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 15: of a belting for such a long long time, you know,

1209
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 15: And from from my point of view, they're just witnessing

1210
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 15: the crowds. You know, you always saw the ladies looking

1211
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 15: beautifully and well addressed, the boys as.

1212
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 2: They should as they should bring listen, you have the

1213
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: best of days and appreciate your expertise on that. Brit Thompson, for.

1214
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: You asking the questions others won't the mic asking breakfast

1215
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate doing real estate differently. Since nineteen

1216
00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: seventy three, News Tom Stead been.

1217
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 2: This country's most followed and talked about race Cora exponent

1218
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson pretty much completed as first full season, now

1219
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: remembering he was promoted to cover dan or Ricarda with

1220
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 2: a handful of laces to go previously, then the promotion

1221
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: to Red Bull to Racist in back to racing Bulls.

1222
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: He sits ahead of this weekend's racing into Lagos on

1223
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 2: thirty points ahead ironically of you, Hugh Sonoda, it's team

1224
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 2: chasing the midfield title on seventy two. Anyway, Liam Lawson

1225
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 2: is with us. Good morning, good morning.

1226
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 19: Thank you very much for having me.

1227
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 2: No, it's a great pleasure. How is life just because

1228
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: it's been a while since we talked, Are you still,

1229
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: despite everything and with everything pinching yourself on a weekly basis,

1230
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: that you're living your dream?

1231
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 19: It's something for sure that I have to I think

1232
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 19: in everything, no matter sort of what industry you're in

1233
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 19: with it obviously for me, I'm lucky enough to be

1234
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 19: doing this, but I think it doesn't really matter what

1235
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 19: industry that you're in. I think when you're obviously achieving

1236
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 19: what you set out to do, or trying to at

1237
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 19: least I see in my eyes, I'm not quite there yet,

1238
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 19: but I think it's important, sir, for sure sort of

1239
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 19: sit back and realize what's going on because it's it

1240
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 19: is cool. It's just always obviously striving for for more what.

1241
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: You thought you would get versus what you have. God,

1242
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: what's the difference.

1243
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 19: I think. I think the pressure, the sort of intensity

1244
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 19: of it is everything I expected. I think I already

1245
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 19: thought that sort of time went quickly, and now it's

1246
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 19: just going even quicker, like the fact that we are

1247
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 19: one month away from the end of the season as

1248
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 19: wild It's been an extremely intensity. I think. At the

1249
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 19: same time, just because of how everything played out this year,

1250
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 19: it's been that side of it is not what I expected. Obviously,

1251
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 19: it's something that you know, I went into this year

1252
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 19: with a plan and obviously it's gone in a different direction,

1253
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 19: and I'm grateful to still be driving, but obviously I'm

1254
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 19: working through that. So I think that it's different in

1255
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 19: ways because of just how everything played out this year.

1256
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 19: But I think at the same time, you know, still

1257
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 19: being Formula one and trying to fight for a seat

1258
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 19: next year, is it's obviously what I set out to do.

1259
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: Are you used to that pressure yet?

1260
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 19: I think so. I think it's something that's I don't

1261
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 19: think you ever fully get used to it. I don't

1262
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 19: think it's something that you I think if you're comfortable,

1263
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 19: completely comfortable with it, then it's not important enough to you.

1264
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 19: So I think that I've dealt with this pressure since

1265
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 19: I was very young, because joining the junior program is

1266
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 19: something that they put us through it at sixteen years old,

1267
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 19: so it sort of prepares you for this sort of

1268
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 19: step up when you get to F one. But I

1269
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 19: think to be used to it, I would say, wouldn't

1270
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 19: mean that it's not it's not doesn't mean enough, or

1271
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 19: it's not important enough. So it's it's definitely still there

1272
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 19: and it's still a battle obviously every weekend.

1273
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: How would you score yourself this season?

1274
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 19: Not high enough, not as high as I wanted to.

1275
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 19: But I think it's very rare that, you know, I think,

1276
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 19: at least for me. You know, I can't speak for really,

1277
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 19: but I think it's very rare to look back on

1278
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 19: stuff and think I did everything, you know, exactly as

1279
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 19: I wanted to do. I think for me, as long

1280
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,439
Speaker 19: as I look back on this year and learn from

1281
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,439
Speaker 19: things that I feel like I could have done better

1282
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 19: or could have been better, I think we've done a

1283
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 19: really good job through a good part of this year.

1284
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 19: The second half of the year's been a lot stronger.

1285
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 19: I think we were trying to play catch up for

1286
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 19: the first part because of the way the start of

1287
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 19: the year unfolded, and I think that's we definitely got there.

1288
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 19: But you know, in a sport where there's just so

1289
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Speaker 19: many variables and you just don't put one piece of

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Speaker 19: the puzzle together on a race weekend, and you, especially

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Speaker 19: in a season that's so close, you just get knocked

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Speaker 19: out and you're fighting where you don't want to be fighting.

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Speaker 19: And I think that's trying to do that every single

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Speaker 19: weekend and have everything go right is very tough. But

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Speaker 19: those are the things that I look back on and

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Speaker 19: learn from from the stuff that didn't.

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Speaker 2: How much better are you as a driver from the

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Speaker 2: start of IF one to right now?

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Speaker 19: I think I think I think it's hard to say

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Speaker 19: a lot, because I think but by the time you

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Speaker 19: get to IF one, you've gone through such a development

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Speaker 19: process to be ready for F one. But I would

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Speaker 19: say a good step. I think I probably learned the

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Speaker 19: most this year or developed the most this year out

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Speaker 19: of any other year. I think you obviously on your

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Speaker 19: pathway to Formula one and the step to IF one

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Speaker 19: is very, very big, and we try and prepare for it,

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Speaker 19: but there's nothing like being in it and being in

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Speaker 19: it for a year and going through everything that sort

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Speaker 19: of we've gone through this year. I think all of

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Speaker 19: the hard stuff as well always sort of makes you

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Speaker 19: better anyway. And I think if there's anything if I

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Speaker 19: come out of this this year, which is what I'm

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Speaker 19: trying to do, I think then I'll be in a

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Speaker 19: much better place because of sort of the hard stuff

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Speaker 19: that's been that's been on this year.

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Speaker 2: See when you say if I come out of this,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to ask you because I watch you

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01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: every week and they ask you the same questions and

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Speaker 2: you must be sick and tired of listening to those

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Speaker 2: questions and having to come up with some sort of answer.

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Speaker 19: You could ask me, because I think it's obviously the

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01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 19: question that's it's the same. This is the way our

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Speaker 19: sport is, especially when you come into sport, it's it's,

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01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 19: you know, everybody's put under the pressure. You get you

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Speaker 19: get your first year and it's try and perform and deliver,

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 19: and then you get resigned. And I think it's at

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Speaker 19: the point of the year where obviously it's it's the

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Speaker 19: decisions sort of being made around this, around the four

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Speaker 19: seats at R and L camp for next year. So

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Speaker 19: it's something that obviously I'm very aware of. But at

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Speaker 19: the same time, it doesn't change really anything I'm doing,

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Speaker 19: and I think change their approach to each race weekend,

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Speaker 19: all that stays the same. So yeah, it's something that's

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Speaker 19: obviously these these races are very important to determine.

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Speaker 2: Is it something you talk about in between race meetings

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Speaker 2: or even at race meetings over the weekend in the

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Speaker 2: sense that everybody knows that someone somewhere, whether it be

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01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: Marker or Mechis is making a decision and that might

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Speaker 2: be communicated or it might not. I mean, is there

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Speaker 2: black humor in the garage or do you just not

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Speaker 2: talk about it in pocus something?

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Speaker 19: Honestly, Yeah, it's something that I would say I only

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01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 19: talk about with the with basically that sort of the

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Speaker 19: people who I'm making that decision with, with either Helmets

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 19: or with the rins or with Allen. You know, it's

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01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 19: those sort of the discussions that I'll be having, and

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Speaker 19: outside of that, I think it's just something that we're

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 19: all very There's so much we have sort of to

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01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 19: do on a race weekend and the build ups of

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01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 19: a race weekend. You know, we get less and less time.

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01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 19: Now there's more and more races at the moment, and

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01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 19: it's basically we're just flat out trying to It's crazy

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01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 19: how you you leave a race weekend and just straight

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01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 19: away switch on to the next one. I think that's

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Speaker 19: been something that has been something a learning process this year,

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01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 19: trying to take the things that I can learn from

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01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 19: and the positives and also the negatives, but the things

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01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 19: that I can learn from and just straight away move

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Speaker 19: straight on to the next one. And you don't really

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 19: have time to dwell or think about what's what's happened?

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Speaker 2: Fair enough? Listen, hold on, mate, we'll come back with

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Speaker 2: more in a moment. Liam Lawson fourteen.

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Speaker 1: Past the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It be News Talks. It'll be sixteen past light Liam

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Speaker 2: Lawsons with us. So, I mean, let me ask you,

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01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 2: is it true that you you know what you're saying

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01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: before the break you simply don't know what your future

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01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 2: is next year? And the reason I ask it that

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 2: specifically is it does seem unfair to me that if

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01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: they want the best from you. They need to give

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01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 2: you some sort of guide or pathway, otherwise you're just

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01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: sitting there going you know what the hell am I doing?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 19: I think the pathway with the guide is to perform,

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01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 19: and if you perform, you you stay in the sport.

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Speaker 19: And I think that's just how it's been since I

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01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 19: was sixteen years old, so it's been since I joined

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 19: the since I joined the program. That's just how it is,

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01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 19: and that's basically my guide, and you know that's really

1382
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 19: Obviously I'm going to have updates and have conversations along

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 19: the way, But I think at this point right now,

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01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 19: the decision is not clear and hasn't been made and

1385
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,720
Speaker 19: has this in a position where basically I'm still working

1386
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 19: towards trying to secure that.

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Speaker 2: Seat, And is it made clear to you at the

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01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: end of the weekend. So the last couple for Singapore,

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01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 2: you ran into a couple of walls. Sometimes you can't

1390
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: get the tires heated up. None of that your fault, necessarily,

1391
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: does it? Is it communicated? Going that's on us not

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01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: you don't panic.

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01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 19: Honestly, it's something that's I would say, I try to

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01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 19: take responsibility for everything I can. I would say, And

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01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 19: it's something that's for sure if if there's if there's

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01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 19: a situation where you know, either a mechanical failure or

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01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 19: something like that, or then then or something, you know,

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 19: something that we had planned that that just didn't go

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01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 19: like it was meant to, whether one pane or something

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01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 19: like that. For sure, the team would take sort of

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 19: responsibility one that. But I think it's something that we

1402
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 19: also collectively agree on stuff together, and it wouldn't be

1403
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 19: fair as well for me to just basically put stuff

1404
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 19: on them, because for sure I make mistakes as well,

1405
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 19: and I have done, you know, a load of across

1406
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 19: this year, so you know, when we're coming up to

1407
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 19: making plans, we're in a sport where there's just so

1408
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 19: many variables and nothing's ever going to go completely right.

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01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,480
Speaker 19: So I think it's just accepting that.

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Speaker 2: That's what I've learned out of this year. As I

1411
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: look at Lewis Hamilton, I look at car loss science,

1412
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 2: two of the greatest drivers of the generation. Put them

1413
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 2: in a different team, in a different car, and look

1414
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: how they've struggled. I mean that that's what you essentially

1415
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,640
Speaker 2: what you faced as a rookie, isn't it.

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 19: I think it's it's it's yeah, obviously there'll there'll always

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 19: be conversations and I'll you know, I haven't really had

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01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 19: a chance, but maybe if I, if I get proper time,

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01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 19: I'll look back on reflect completely on how everything unfolded

1420
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 19: this year. But I think, you know, a big part

1421
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 19: of it is, you know, your preseason prep and stuff

1422
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 19: like that. You go into a season. I went to

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01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 19: this year with a plan and sort of we had

1424
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 19: a build up of procedure and sort of direction we

1425
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 19: we're heading. And when that gets you know, flipped upside down.

1426
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 19: As much as I've driven this car last year, I

1427
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 19: had to basically sort of catch up with everything, the

1428
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 19: direction of the car, the sort of development that was

1429
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 19: going on, trying to get adjusted to it again and

1430
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 19: do that, you know, straight into a triple header at

1431
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 19: you know, sort of after the start of the sea.

1432
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 19: And I think that was in a season that this year,

1433
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 19: you know, one tenth can can be the difference between

1434
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 19: being into you know, in Q three or being knocked

1435
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 19: out in Q one. Sometimes it's so close.

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Speaker 2: And is it is it unfair to ask you? I mean,

1437
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 2: I look at Sonoda, I look at you, He's he's

1438
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: no better in that car than you were the cars

1439
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 2: of the problem We all know that is there do

1440
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: any sense of resentment or on fairness or it is

1441
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: what it is.

1442
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 19: It's it's not something I think about directly with hom

1443
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 19: I think at the end of the day, I had

1444
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 19: two races on two tracks i'd never been to. You know,

1445
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 19: we didn't we didn't do pre set you know, we

1446
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 19: didn't do a load of you know testing last year

1447
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,719
Speaker 19: and pre season testing to get ready for this this season.

1448
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 19: So I will never be able to compare because I

1449
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 19: just didn't do the races I did too, and then

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01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 19: I was and I was out. You know, He's had

1451
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Speaker 19: a whole season in the car. So it's something that's

1452
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 19: it's not I can't. I could never compare with that

1453
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 19: because you know, obviously as a race and driver, I'm

1454
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 19: always gonna we always back ourselves right, and I'm always

1455
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 19: gonna sit here and go hey, after this amount of time,

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01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,200
Speaker 19: I feel like I would have got my head around

1457
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 19: it and then and been somewhere. But I think to compare,

1458
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 19: we didn't get given the same amount of races.

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Speaker 2: No, if it pours and into Lagos, is that good

1460
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 2: or not?

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Speaker 19: I wouldn't mind it too. I think in a season

1462
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 19: that's so close, you know, something like that, a variable

1463
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 19: like that. You know, we had extreme wins in back

1464
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 19: who that basically helped us a lot in qualifying yep,

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Speaker 19: and something like that, you know, a weather sort of

1466
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 19: change and qualifying or in the weekend would be good.

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Speaker 19: It was good for us last year. So I think, so.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's always a pleasure to catch up with you, mate.

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Speaker 2: I hope you I say the super time, but I

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Speaker 2: hope you understand just how many New Zealanders love what

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Speaker 2: you're doing and enjoy it each time your race and

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Speaker 2: it's a thrill to watch.

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Speaker 19: It's very cool for me toa And thanks very much, Mike.

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Speaker 19: I speak you soon.

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Speaker 2: We'll right there we go. The good news is we're

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Speaker 2: not done with Liam Lawson this morning yet. Eight twenty one.

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Speaker 2: deal with younglan this case motor racing, young guys and

1501
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 2: they get out in the world and see Parkers the

1502
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 2: same thinking that the other day it'll be sad to

1503
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: see Liam Mike without a seat next year. We don't

1504
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: say that because I don't necessarily think it's going to

1505
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 2: happen at all, especially when he may be able to

1506
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: secure something else if it wasn't for Red Bull's total

1507
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: lack of professional respect or courtesy for their drivers. I

1508
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 2: take your point, but it's a hard, hard business in

1509
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: F one. Have a look at kim Ilman if you

1510
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:33,720
Speaker 2: follow that on YouTube, kim Elman's latest piece on He's

1511
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: done a bit on Liam and co. Mike, My money's

1512
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: on him keeping a seat next year.

1513
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 3: Mike.

1514
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 2: I think Liam's allegiend the F one environment just seems horrific.

1515
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 2: It's certainly hard, there's no question about that, Mike. Great

1516
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 2: interview with Liam Lawson. Great chance to connect with a

1517
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 2: key F one driver. Mike my son Dylan sitting in

1518
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 2: the car on the way to school organizing his F

1519
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,640
Speaker 2: one trading card collection. He's got Liam Lawson card on

1520
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: his hand. He's a huge fan. Dreams of driving the

1521
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 2: ego Tony. That's nice, isn't it now. I got an

1522
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: inspiration yesterday from Noline Taru. So Nolan came on a

1523
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 2: couple of times on the program, and so I thought

1524
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: that's the thing we could develop on the show. So

1525
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,600
Speaker 2: I'm what I'm going to do is I'm going to

1526
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 2: get Liam back on after eight thirty, after the News,

1527
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 2: and I'm going to get him to explain his latest idea,

1528
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: which is a brilliant idea. He's got a two thousand

1529
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: Subaru Forester that he's fixed up, hotted up, and he's

1530
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: selling it currently for a charity and the bidding's open

1531
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: on trade me. So we'll talk about the car, talk

1532
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: about how cool it is, what the causes and how

1533
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: you can bid for a very very good cause. And

1534
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 2: I'll run you through some of the stuff that he's

1535
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 2: done to the car because it's amazing. And just fore warning,

1536
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be a bitter anyway, That's still the

1537
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 2: come Leam Lawson back after the News again.

1538
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: Opinion edit, Informed, Unapologetic, the mic asking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement, Communities,

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01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 1: Life your Way, News, toks Head vs.

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01:14:59,680 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 4: Mike.

1541
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,640
Speaker 2: It keeps getting in the way of listening to you.

1542
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,719
Speaker 2: Have I missed the follow up with the tea's about

1543
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 2: being finished with Liam? No, you haven't. Twenty three minutes

1544
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: away from.

1545
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 1: The international correspondence with Insit Eye Insurance, Peace of mind

1546
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

1547
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: Before we get to learn, we need to get to

1548
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: one who's brother's Roderick.

1549
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 10: Good morning, good morning, how are you doing very well?

1550
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 2: Indeed, mate, this dreadful business on the train and they

1551
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 2: head two people, it seems to be one. He's in court.

1552
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 2: He's of no fixed abode. What do we do about trains?

1553
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we seeing in this? It's not tira,

1554
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: it's just what a nutter?

1555
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 10: It's a nutter and sometimes that's what happens. I mean,

1556
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 10: we need to market because this is a man who's

1557
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 10: got on a trainer Peterborough and one of the high

1558
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 10: speed trains down to London and scabbed, just went around,

1559
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 10: stabbing indiscriminately as many people as he could find on

1560
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 10: the train there. He's left eleven people in hospital, one

1561
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 10: of whom he stabbed earlier at a different station incidentally,

1562
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 10: so he's been on a kind of stabbing day out.

1563
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 10: Anthony were the ends, aged thirty two, a black British

1564
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 10: guy from we thought London, but with a home address

1565
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 10: seemingly of Portsmouth. And we're beginning to hear now because

1566
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 10: this has shocked the nation and as you can imagine,

1567
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 10: immediately it happened, everyone thought it was a terrorist attack,

1568
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 10: and so the police were comparatively quick in letting us

1569
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 10: know that it was actually a British born bloke who'd

1570
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 10: done it. But there were lots of incendiary stuff on

1571
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 10: Facebook and social media before they happened. But we're now

1572
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 10: beginning to hear a bit about how the both the

1573
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 10: train crew and the passengers protected other people, more vulnerable

1574
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 10: people from being stabbed, and there's there's some very there's

1575
01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 10: some very moving stories of one guy who you know,

1576
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 10: confronted the guy and was told do you want to die?

1577
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 10: Do you want to die? All he had was his

1578
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 10: fist to protect him. So, yeah, there isn't much you

1579
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 10: can say much more than that that it's, you know,

1580
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 10: a horrific occurrence and it's not just Islamic terrorism we

1581
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 10: have to.

1582
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Put up with, no, indeed not, but we have broadened

1583
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 2: it out politically speaking and on the train stations and

1584
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 2: the public places of London. Knives, as you've told us

1585
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 2: many many times, are a major major iss So that

1586
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: we go through this debate once again of can you

1587
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 2: jump on a train? Are you safe? If you're not,

1588
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: what are we going to do about it. I mean,

1589
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 2: there seems no answer to any of us.

1590
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 10: There doesn't and and all the answers which are there

1591
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,600
Speaker 10: are pretty growth. To screen people before they get on

1592
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 10: a train, you know, I mean, do we do that?

1593
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 10: It's just impossible. There are some things you cannot You

1594
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 10: cannot do anything but make allowances for you accept that

1595
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 10: which is going to happen every so often. It may

1596
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 10: be that there's something about there's something a bit more

1597
01:17:56,040 --> 01:18:00,919
Speaker 10: political and ideological in the way we view people mental illness,

1598
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 10: the view in the last twenty five years as we

1599
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 10: need to demystify it a people with a mental illness

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01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 10: and no danger to the public. Well, some of them are,

1601
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 10: you know, some of them are.

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,840
Speaker 2: Trump as a CBS six Harris two point zero. I mean,

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,879
Speaker 2: where are the BBC with us in the jan six speeches?

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01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,559
Speaker 10: Oh well, that's incredible. Do you know? I watched that

1605
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 10: Panorama and I thought, by god, did Trump really say that?

1606
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 10: It was remarkable? They Jerry Mander. This is the BBC's

1607
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 10: most predigious current affairs program, Panorama. Jerry Manded distorted the

1608
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 10: words of the President to make it look as if

1609
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 10: he had ordered people to go and take the White House.

1610
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 10: I mean absolutely remarkable. It's by far, in my opinion,

1611
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 10: the worst transgression that the BBC's made. And boy, there

1612
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 10: have been a few of those, given its performance over

1613
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:00,840
Speaker 10: Israel and.

1614
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: Palista, and what happens to them because of.

1615
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 10: It, Well, you would hope that the editor would resign,

1616
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 10: or you would hope that more than that happens, because

1617
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 10: I think there's going to be trouble, you know, from them.

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01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 2: He's great.

1619
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 10: We've been told that the license fees going up to

1620
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 10: one hundred. Lady quit. There's not much appetite.

1621
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 2: For that, you know, No, there's not apologies for the

1622
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 2: equality of your line. Rod go well, we'll see you Thursday.

1623
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 2: I rod a little out of Britain this morning. The

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01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: only other quick thing on speaking of trains, Virgin have

1625
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 2: been given. I don't know why this has been so

1626
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: long coming. Virgin had been given the go ahead to

1627
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,800
Speaker 2: run competition on the Eurostar and if you've ever been

1628
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 2: on the Eurostar, it's quite a good service. I thoroughly

1629
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 2: enjoyed it. The first bit I did from London to France,

1630
01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: the one back, I didn't realize that the train I'd

1631
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 2: got on was a brand new one and it was fantastic.

1632
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: And it was the express service. On the way back,

1633
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 2: I got an old train that stopped at every train station.

1634
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 2: So if you get the right train, it's all good.

1635
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: But a bit of competition wouldn't be a bad thing.

1636
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: Right back to Liam in a moment eighteen two.

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01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,479
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1639
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,800
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1640
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: to Liam Lawson. His original car, first car, two thousand

1641
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: Buru Forester is for sale. I am Hope is the

1642
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: charity he's auctioning it off. It's available now. It ends.

1643
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 2: The auction ends this Friday, which is gum boot Day,

1644
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: of course, so I talked about the details. Now. Part

1645
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 2: of the reason we got you on this morning, Liam

1646
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 2: is this. I'm interested in buying this, so you don't

1647
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 2: don't over sell me on it. Right So, because I'm

1648
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 2: gonna come I'm gonna come back at you if I

1649
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: end up winning this car, I'm gonna come back and

1650
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 2: it's crap. I'm gonna come back at you, and it's

1651
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: on you. So it's this two thousand Forester. It's come

1652
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 2: up beautifully, doesn't it. I followed you on social and

1653
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 2: you know, the time you spent on it and stuff,

1654
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 2: but it's come up beautifully. It looks good. Does it

1655
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 2: drive well?

1656
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 19: Yeah, Look, it's something it does and it's something that

1657
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 19: I like, I have a big passion for cars, you know,

1658
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 19: started racing in terms of especially especially JDM. I think

1659
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 19: it's that side of growing up in New Zealand. It's

1660
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 19: something that we have a lot of in New Zealand,

1661
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 19: quite quite a lot of you know, really cool stuff

1662
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 19: and the idea of of you know, buying something very

1663
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 19: basic in stock and turning into something quite cool with

1664
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 19: a lot of really really cool partners. There's something that

1665
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 19: I enjoy doing. It's something that I did in the

1666
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 19: UK with a to a Supra and to do it

1667
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 19: at home as well with technically my first car ever

1668
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 19: you know, registered to me in New Zealand and it

1669
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 19: came out really good honestly, and we definitely did it properly.

1670
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 19: You know, we went through I think it's pretty you know,

1671
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 19: I can be honest and open. So we went through

1672
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 19: a couple of motors to get it right and I

1673
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 19: think now we have because I wanted it to be

1674
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,759
Speaker 19: good and uh and it's it's yeah, it's it drives,

1675
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,439
Speaker 19: it drives what it makes all the right noises as

1676
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 19: well good, which obviously is really important to me.

1677
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: Why a forester.

1678
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 19: I think it's very I don't think it's a very

1679
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 19: sort of typical New Zealand car. It's something that I've

1680
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 19: never seen more foresters, you know, outside of New Zealand,

1681
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 19: and I've seen in New Zealand. It's something that I

1682
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 19: feel like it's a very New Zealand car. It's something

1683
01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 19: that you see around a lot. And I also just

1684
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,640
Speaker 19: think saw the potential of it, like how cool it

1685
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 19: would look to have sort of a wagon that was

1686
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 19: turned into because the thing's got like three hundred doors power,

1687
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 19: you know, it absolutely wraps And yeah, I think that

1688
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 19: was just like a cool idea, probably a little bit

1689
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,759
Speaker 19: more non traditional from what most people would build.

1690
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 10: Now.

1691
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: The difficulty is, of course it's it's for charity and

1692
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 2: that's great and so it could go for anything. But

1693
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: that aside, what's at worth? Do you reckon?

1694
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 19: I honestly I have absolutely no idea. I think it'd

1695
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 19: be really unfair for me to just put a number.

1696
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 19: I can say what we've obviously put into it, and

1697
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 19: we spent we what initially I'll be honest and say

1698
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 19: that when we initially planned it, we didn't plan on

1699
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 19: doing as much as we did. But that's a very

1700
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 19: mean thing to end up doing, is just completely carried away,

1701
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 19: and we did. And I think there's probably twenty five

1702
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 19: grands worth of just modifications in the car. So yeah,

1703
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 19: I think it's it's it's it's been done probably, which

1704
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 19: was the main thing. And I think, especially when thinking

1705
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 19: about it, obviously, you know, being sold to something, and

1706
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 19: obviously the money going to charity is great, but obviously

1707
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 19: the person who buys a car, I wanted them to

1708
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 19: be happy with it as well. Yeah, so that's why

1709
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 19: we tried to just we said, okay, let's just do

1710
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 19: it properly, do everything we can to it. But honestly,

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01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 19: to give you a number, I couldn't. I couldn't do it.

1712
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,960
Speaker 19: But it's it's good enough that I didn't. I was

1713
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 19: very sad and I don't want to sell it because

1714
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 19: I actually enjoyed driving a lot.

1715
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. And you signed it, right?

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01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 19: Did I signed the dashboard? Good on the Yeah, on

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01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 19: the left hand side of it.

1718
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 2: So is that worth anything? Do you think they.

1719
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 19: Told me it was? It's not something I really I

1720
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 19: wouldn't think it is, but that's that's obviously somebody else's opinion.

1721
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,600
Speaker 2: So I guess so, well, well, hopefully it goes for

1722
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,760
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of money. And how come the link

1723
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean in the suit? What what? How you know?

1724
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: Have you got an association with a charity or it

1725
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: was just a nice thing to.

1726
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: Do or what?

1727
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 19: Yeah, I think it's something that is. I mean, obviously

1728
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 19: any charity you pick at the end of the day

1729
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 19: is is important. And for me it's something that along

1730
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 19: with a lot of people I know around, especially growing

1731
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 19: up in New Zealand, I think it's more of maybe

1732
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 19: more of a topical, more of an issue than some

1733
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 19: other places. But I think that yes, I have you know,

1734
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 19: had a close friend that was affected by something like this,

1735
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 19: and I know a lot of people around me that

1736
01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 19: are as well. So it's that's honestly, that's the truth.

1737
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 2: That's why you're doing you So that's the Cara. I'll

1738
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: run you through the modifications in the moment. It's on

1739
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: trade me. The cause is GUMBOO die im hope and

1740
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: the bid currently sits at thirty thousand, six hundred dollars

1741
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: tend to Wait, Tend to Night, the Mike.

1742
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:04,000
Speaker 1: Costing, Breakfast with the Defender, and news Togs Dead bs.

1743
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: Did not on to Resonate Health yet get into it.

1744
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 2: Founded by James Whittaker, of course that basically he's in

1745
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 2: New Zealander were decades of experience in audiology and health right.

1746
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,760
Speaker 2: So he saw too many people pressured into expense of

1747
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 2: upgrades and paying thousands of dollars up front and left

1748
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 2: with outdated hearing and technology. So he knew, hang on,

1749
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: there's got to be a better way, which is why

1750
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: he created Resonate and the unlimited hearing Aid subscriptions the

1751
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: way of the future. For just ninety nine dollars a month,

1752
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: you receive top of the range hearing aids, full support,

1753
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: a free hearing aid tech upgrade every three years, and

1754
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,840
Speaker 2: the price is locked in for life, never goes up.

1755
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 2: So James has built this world class team who loved

1756
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 2: this model because it's transparent, It's focused on outcomes, not sales,

1757
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 2: which is why so many key weis are switching to Resonate.

1758
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you eight hundred Resonate is the number eight

1759
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 2: hundred seventy three seven sixty six to two or book

1760
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:55,759
Speaker 2: online at Resonate Health dot co, dot n Z tasking

1761
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: Right two thousand Subaru Forester a new W twenty si

1762
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: see short block engine with genuine Sabaru components, hardware supplied

1763
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 2: by Winger, Wayne and the crew at Winger. They're good

1764
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: people are brand new genuine Sabaru STI turbo, a host

1765
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 2: of other performance and cosmetic upgrades. It's only done a

1766
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: thousand k's on the new engine, brand new engine, fool

1767
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 2: rebuild performance installation. It's done by Possenborn Motorsport, Tuned as

1768
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Liam said to three hundred as in adjustable coil abor suspension,

1769
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 2: new white line sway bars, strut brace, turbo back exhaust system,

1770
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 2: high flow fuel pump, AARP headstart to stand alone link

1771
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 2: G four x plug in ECU performance camshafts with full

1772
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 2: valve train upgrades, springs, titanium retainers, guide seals from Celford Cams,

1773
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 2: new inter cooler and clutch, brand new wheel, Semi Sleck tires,

1774
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: cart Boy short shifter. You want one of those and

1775
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,640
Speaker 2: a shift noob from Naughty Knobs. You've never been to

1776
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Naughty Knobs. Absolutely fantastic cruise roof racks, Uchema Roofbox donated

1777
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,640
Speaker 2: the Roofbox. Actually, funnily enough, you think roofbox, what the

1778
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 2: hell is that? It looks good from roof Rax New

1779
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,640
Speaker 2: Zealand are completely wrapped. I didn't realize it's wrapped. So

1780
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: it's wrapped in satin gray. It's just been brilliantly put together.

1781
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 2: It's a good looking scene todays no because you once

1782
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 2: you've got your naughty knob, what do you need to

1783
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: seat warm before? For goodness sake? Anyway, it's all on

1784
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: trade me and the bidding is for I am hope

1785
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: gumboot Day currently sitting at thirty thousand and six, I

1786
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 2: mean thirty grand. I mean it'll go up from there.

1787
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:32,559
Speaker 2: I'm assuming bye, potentially quite a lot. It is an

1788
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,680
Speaker 2: it's a brilliant car. So go to trade me. Have

1789
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,879
Speaker 2: a look farve away from nine trending.

1790
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 3: Now sarehouse the real House of Fragrances.

1791
01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 2: So we've got a court case. We're in Detroit and

1792
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 2: they're doing this over zoom and so it's the state

1793
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:54,480
Speaker 2: via woman who was charged with drag racing and disorderly conduct.

1794
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 2: So not just drag racing but disorderly conduct. The officer

1795
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 2: in charge. This is Matthew. He hasn't quite figured out

1796
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 2: how the zoom works and what the camera shows.

1797
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 15: Officer Jackson, good morning.

1798
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 10: You can you put your appearance on the record, please? Yes?

1799
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 20: After Jackson bathroom at thirty nine nineteen at a twelve

1800
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 20: recinc All right, do you.

1801
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 8: Have you got some pants?

1802
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 2: No, sir, No sir, have you got some pants on?

1803
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 1: So if you don't have pants on your own, zoom

1804
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 1: by your via your phone.

1805
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,719
Speaker 6: Probably hold it in a landscape rather than portrait, because

1806
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 6: otherwise you get a sort of a longer shot.

1807
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,639
Speaker 2: Would that necessarily be a bad thing? That's what you wanted.

1808
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 2: It depends on which way you Where does the naughty

1809
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 2: knob fit into that? I'm not sure.

1810
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: Nobbed or not?

1811
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 2: Separate subject anyway, thoroughly good morning, and that's my own

1812
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 2: personal assessment, and to be frank, I couldn't care less

1813
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 2: what anyone else thinks anymore. I've assessed myself to have

1814
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: done quite a good job, and I go home satisfied

1815
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 2: and we'll look forward to the return tomorrow morning from

1816
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:28,480
Speaker 2: six am as always, Happy days.

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