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Speaker 1: So the early childhood sectors in for a bit of

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Speaker 1: common sense change. There are ninety eight rules apparently in

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Speaker 1: regulations around running any given center. About twenty percent of

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Speaker 1: those are going to go things like keeping the classroom

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Speaker 1: temperature at eighteen degrees, having hygienic facilities to clean up paint,

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Speaker 1: holding humanization records for every child. The regulation Minister, David

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Speaker 1: Seymore's in charge of it, and he's with us very

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Devil is in the detail. Though. The angst seems to

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Speaker 1: be coming around the qualifications for teachers.

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Speaker 2: You say, what, We're not going to change the qualifications overall,

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Speaker 2: but I think there's a worthwhile question. Do you want

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Speaker 2: to have somebody who might have a PhD In architecture

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Speaker 2: comes in, does a short course and go straight to

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Speaker 2: the top of the pay scale, or do you think

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Speaker 2: that the people who run the center and know the

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Speaker 2: quality of the people in front of them should have

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Speaker 2: more flexibility about how much they pay them. Over the

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Speaker 2: next year, these various changes will be rolled out and

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Speaker 2: towards this. At the end of this year, we'll look

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Speaker 2: at that. But if people say, oh, there's going to

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Speaker 2: be no qualifications, it's all deregulated and you won't know

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Speaker 2: what you're getting. Actually, it's the opposite of that. We've

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Speaker 2: got a system that is overly complicated. People don't know

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Speaker 2: what they get, and people that run their centers spend

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Speaker 2: too much time on red tape instead of actually focusing

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Speaker 2: on the safety and education of children and the choices

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Speaker 2: that parents have.

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Speaker 1: Is this union's protecting their patch.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean there's no question that there's been a

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Speaker 2: campaign by the NZI, the Primary teachers union, and I

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Speaker 2: don't mean the teachers by the way, it's the union

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Speaker 2: organizers who've done all sorts of fear mungering about this

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Speaker 2: review before the government's even released its decisions. But the

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Speaker 2: truth is, if you go and visit people in early

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Speaker 2: childhood centers as I do, they've got multiple regulators. They've

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Speaker 2: got the RO, the MOE, the MRH, the MPI, the

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Speaker 2: local council, all trying to enforce rules without any clarity.

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Speaker 2: And what we're going to do, first of all, we're

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Speaker 2: going to actually pass some law saying this is the

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Speaker 2: purpose of regulating it's child safety number one, children's education

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Speaker 2: number two, parental choice number three, and then not putting

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Speaker 2: in place any more rules than are necessary to achieve

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Speaker 2: those objectives. We're going to take a look at the

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Speaker 2: ninety eight rules. We've got a draft of what that

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Speaker 2: will look like. Around three quarters of them will either

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Speaker 2: be gone, changed or turned into guidance rather than we

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Speaker 2: will shut you down in order that the regulator can

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Speaker 2: look at the things that actually affect child safety and

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Speaker 2: child education. And more importantly, that the people running the centers,

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Speaker 2: you know, four thousand, many of them small businesses, saults

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Speaker 2: of the earth, people who are preparing the next generation

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Speaker 2: for when they take over running this country. They will

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Speaker 2: have some more certainty about what they can do, what

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Speaker 2: they can't do, and who to call if there's a dispute.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, I've got this text. Mike asked David, who

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Speaker 1: caught the biggest snapper on the Bay of Islands East

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Speaker 1: to sunday him or his fiance. What's the answer?

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Speaker 2: Uh, okay, Alex's got a five point two kilogram Mine was.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, definitely legal. However it was

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Speaker 2: it was about half a meter from the lip to

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Speaker 2: the v of the tale, So she definitely won that one,

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Speaker 2: and I obviously don't dispute it.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Nice to talk to you David Semore, the

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