WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 177: Previewing the England tests 0:00:09.133 --> 0:00:12.013 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b. 0:00:12.413 --> 0:00:15.213 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 0:00:15.373 --> 0:00:20.853 iHeart Radio. 0:00:21.093 --> 0:00:25.413 Take another pat, It's a trick, it is out, the 0:00:25.493 --> 0:00:26.133 test is over. 0:00:28.333 --> 0:00:30.613 Couldn't smoke. Oh wow, was a beauty. 0:00:30.693 --> 0:00:33.853 This is out and hearing guys, this delivery. 0:00:33.533 --> 0:00:35.333 Has in you uses before. 0:00:37.493 --> 0:00:40.893 On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody 0:00:41.173 --> 0:00:45.693 powered by News Talks head B at iHeart Radio. 0:00:47.533 --> 0:00:50.253 Hello, nice to have you join us once again on 0:00:50.293 --> 0:00:53.013 the front foot. Well, the rain effected loss for our 0:00:53.053 --> 0:00:55.693 White fun Yeah, it was nine hours as a side 0:00:56.013 --> 0:01:01.013 Blackworth Lewis Stern Cayman to to play leading West Indian 0:01:01.053 --> 0:01:04.133 players off out of a test tour of England. It 0:01:04.253 --> 0:01:07.093 was the same likely to appear in the black Caps 0:01:07.093 --> 0:01:10.253 downtime you used to pick by some of our international 0:01:10.293 --> 0:01:13.493 players and the West Indies are in England and the 0:01:13.533 --> 0:01:16.653 Caribbean Assessment of the World T twenty all that coming 0:01:16.733 --> 0:01:20.093 up on the front foot with me Brian Model and 0:01:20.133 --> 0:01:22.933 the Jeremy Coney and Jeremy Coney, I start by asking 0:01:22.973 --> 0:01:26.333 you which captain would you much rather be in the 0:01:26.373 --> 0:01:29.373 county game that recently ended in the tie. This has 0:01:29.413 --> 0:01:32.733 happened since our last program on the front foot. The 0:01:32.813 --> 0:01:35.693 captain who set five ninety three to win or the 0:01:35.693 --> 0:01:39.213 captain of the side who got five ninety two to tie, 0:01:39.293 --> 0:01:40.693 Who would you much rather be? 0:01:43.413 --> 0:01:47.133 Not an easy choice, is it, really? I guess once 0:01:47.173 --> 0:01:49.453 you've got to five ninety two and you've got the 0:01:49.493 --> 0:01:54.173 whole of that last over to get one run, um, 0:01:55.093 --> 0:01:57.613 you might be a wee bit disappointed. But getting the 0:01:57.653 --> 0:02:00.093 five ninety is not a bad effort, is it really? 0:02:00.253 --> 0:02:05.453 And it wasn't a bad catch, was it. Either? The 0:02:05.573 --> 0:02:09.013 keeper had had his glove off and took it in 0:02:09.093 --> 0:02:12.093 his took it, you know, with the with the glove 0:02:12.173 --> 0:02:15.373 off and just in the hands. You know, the shemis 0:02:15.493 --> 0:02:18.173 just on up to his right. And it was a 0:02:18.213 --> 0:02:21.413 great catch, a little fine edge too. I mean it 0:02:22.573 --> 0:02:25.093 could easily have raced away just wide of him, so 0:02:25.853 --> 0:02:32.133 very close. What a game Glamorgan was it? Glamorgan and Glouceston, Gloucestershire. Yeah. 0:02:31.813 --> 0:02:35.693 And the keeper basically did an Olympic marathon in celebration, 0:02:35.853 --> 0:02:40.093 didn't he. I mean he did fifteen circuits of the ground. 0:02:40.693 --> 0:02:44.933 James Bracy was his name. Stunning catch. It got rid 0:02:44.973 --> 0:02:49.493 of Jamie McElroy, a well known name in the Glamorgan side. 0:02:49.533 --> 0:02:52.413 He was the last man and he was given the 0:02:52.453 --> 0:02:55.693 opportunity to win the game that had been set up. 0:02:55.733 --> 0:02:57.933 You know, when you think they got you know, pretty 0:02:57.933 --> 0:03:02.373 well six hundred to lead leave the five ninety three 0:03:02.453 --> 0:03:04.653 Sam Northeast, you know the man. We spoke about it 0:03:04.893 --> 0:03:06.933 start of the year with the triple hundred. He got 0:03:06.933 --> 0:03:09.813 one hundred and eighty seven. They got Manus Labershane or 0:03:09.853 --> 0:03:12.373 mel Labisketny or however you want to pronounce his name, 0:03:12.373 --> 0:03:18.253 playing from Morgan, he got nineteen fift one hundred and 0:03:18.333 --> 0:03:22.533 nineteen and then you know you need five to actually 0:03:22.613 --> 0:03:25.173 get close to five ninety two, as you say, is 0:03:26.133 --> 0:03:31.013 absolutely brilliant. Mason Crane was left stranded at the nun 0:03:31.093 --> 0:03:34.893 Strikers in unbeaten on forty two. Probably could have won, Yeah, 0:03:35.253 --> 0:03:37.333 might have made a wrong decision to get down that end, 0:03:37.413 --> 0:03:40.333 I'm not sure, but oh what a finish to a game. 0:03:40.373 --> 0:03:43.453 I think that's an outstanding game of cricket really when 0:03:43.493 --> 0:03:46.493 you look at it. Neither side got to two hundred 0:03:46.533 --> 0:03:49.253 and their first innings, well that. 0:03:49.333 --> 0:03:51.933 I suppose allowed the time to score that big second 0:03:51.933 --> 0:03:55.813 inning for both teams didn't it. That's fantastic, obviously a 0:03:55.853 --> 0:04:03.013 good pitch and yeah, my word, that's a cracker cracker 0:04:03.053 --> 0:04:03.853 of the game. 0:04:04.453 --> 0:04:07.693 Five ninety two. Oh we played well yeah on the 0:04:07.733 --> 0:04:13.293 last game at five ninety two and spide oh goodness, 0:04:13.373 --> 0:04:15.733 be I reckon. The White Ferns would probably like to 0:04:15.733 --> 0:04:20.653 be in that situation sadly though. They've lost another game, 0:04:21.053 --> 0:04:23.973 a traditional nine overs, a side game. I guess you 0:04:24.053 --> 0:04:26.653 have to be able to play those length of games 0:04:26.693 --> 0:04:29.173 when you're playing in T twenty competitions, because that's what 0:04:29.293 --> 0:04:32.293 happens when you come to World Championships nine overs. They 0:04:32.293 --> 0:04:34.213 weren't able to chase it down. They were beaten by 0:04:34.493 --> 0:04:38.373 Duckworth Lewis. It's just another sad chapter in terms of 0:04:38.973 --> 0:04:42.133 the White Ferns that they are really struggling over there, 0:04:42.133 --> 0:04:44.613 and we've spoken about them. I think we'll leave them 0:04:44.613 --> 0:04:48.173 to get on with their task. Let's get some reflection anyway, 0:04:48.253 --> 0:04:50.813 from Lear to who on the game. 0:04:51.733 --> 0:04:53.093 Yeah, look, I think it was good to get out there. 0:04:53.093 --> 0:04:54.773 I think you know, we knew there was going to 0:04:54.773 --> 0:04:56.093 be a lot of rain around. I think the ground 0:04:56.173 --> 0:04:59.413 is the fantastic job to get us out there. You 0:04:59.453 --> 0:05:02.813 know that in twenty cricket, anything can happen. We've played 0:05:02.813 --> 0:05:04.893 shortened games before, we kind of know what to expect, 0:05:04.933 --> 0:05:07.573 and you know, we change a few things around in 0:05:07.573 --> 0:05:10.213 our team to to try and sort of counter that. Yeah, look, 0:05:10.253 --> 0:05:12.253 always happy to take some wickets and you know, try 0:05:12.293 --> 0:05:13.973 and contribute to what we're trying to do out there. 0:05:14.493 --> 0:05:16.693 You know, that's my job up top there is to 0:05:16.733 --> 0:05:18.213 try and take some wickets and get us off to 0:05:18.213 --> 0:05:20.373 a good start. So, you know, always pleasing to be 0:05:20.413 --> 0:05:24.053 able to do that. Yeah, I think from a bowling innings, 0:05:24.053 --> 0:05:26.053 I think we actually didn't bowl too badly. I think, 0:05:26.813 --> 0:05:28.573 you know, it was a tricky wicket in terms of 0:05:28.613 --> 0:05:30.733 the ball was skidding on nicely onto the bat. The 0:05:30.733 --> 0:05:33.373 outfield was obviously skidding on as well, So from that 0:05:33.413 --> 0:05:35.653 point of view, I think we were probably thinking that 0:05:35.733 --> 0:05:39.013 ninety was about pa so but yeah, like I think 0:05:39.133 --> 0:05:40.533 with the bat it's sort of been a bit of 0:05:40.533 --> 0:05:43.373 a theme of ours. I think it's probably going away 0:05:43.413 --> 0:05:44.933 and just having a look at the decisions that we're 0:05:44.933 --> 0:05:48.053 making as batters. And you know, I think the girls 0:05:48.053 --> 0:05:50.733 have worked incredibly hard over the winter and I think 0:05:50.733 --> 0:05:52.493 it's now just being able to put that out into 0:05:52.533 --> 0:05:54.413 the middle, sort of take that form from the nets 0:05:54.413 --> 0:05:57.533 out into the middle. Yeah, look, everything was focused towards 0:05:57.533 --> 0:06:00.573 that teach when you World Cup, really no, betters are 0:06:00.573 --> 0:06:02.533 looking at different ways of being able to score, knowing 0:06:02.613 --> 0:06:04.893 the conditions that we're going to over there, and trying 0:06:04.893 --> 0:06:07.133 to probably open up more areas of the ground and 0:06:07.173 --> 0:06:09.933 as bowlers, I think more seemans have got one or 0:06:09.933 --> 0:06:12.573 two sort of slow balls and different variations that we've 0:06:12.573 --> 0:06:14.893 been working on again knowing that the condition is going 0:06:14.933 --> 0:06:16.573 to be incredibly different to what we've just played on 0:06:16.613 --> 0:06:19.093 out there, and you know, we've done a similar thing 0:06:19.133 --> 0:06:21.253 to England around sort of tinkering with the team and 0:06:21.293 --> 0:06:24.213 trying to get different combinations working knowing that we've got 0:06:24.333 --> 0:06:27.693 ten games until that first T twenty World Cup match. 0:06:28.053 --> 0:06:30.813 Nine overs are side. You can't make judgments on teams 0:06:31.093 --> 0:06:32.693 in those circumstances, can you, really? 0:06:32.773 --> 0:06:35.973 No, not really, and so we could just put that 0:06:36.013 --> 0:06:39.293 one to one side. Really a pretty new zeven lost 0:06:39.813 --> 0:06:44.773 divine baits curves early on in those overs. Really when 0:06:44.773 --> 0:06:48.013 you're chasing well it was virtually what one hundred or 0:06:48.093 --> 0:06:52.613 ninety or something like that they were chasing, So you 0:06:52.653 --> 0:06:55.053 know you're going for ten and over. You need one 0:06:55.053 --> 0:06:57.813 of those big players to do either get out of 0:06:57.853 --> 0:07:01.413 the blocks early for the first three overs which would 0:07:01.413 --> 0:07:05.533 be the power play, and then carry on if you can. 0:07:05.573 --> 0:07:07.293 You need one of those players to back most of 0:07:07.293 --> 0:07:09.893 the overs if you can. Way for New Zealand, it 0:07:10.013 --> 0:07:12.653 was the first the first game though was they were 0:07:12.973 --> 0:07:16.533 again the thing I think New Zealand are finding hard 0:07:16.573 --> 0:07:19.693 with the batting and scoring runs is that they are 0:07:19.733 --> 0:07:24.533 being confronted by lots of spinners. And yes, in this 0:07:24.613 --> 0:07:29.053 particular game, this first T twenty, England got one well 0:07:29.133 --> 0:07:31.733 nearly two hundred, so they were kind of going at 0:07:31.773 --> 0:07:36.653 ten runs and over, and they then had to come 0:07:36.653 --> 0:07:42.093 out and confront four spinners. And that is fourteen overs 0:07:42.093 --> 0:07:45.813 were bowled by the English spinners and the Eccleston and Dean. 0:07:46.053 --> 0:07:49.373 The Dean the off spinner and eckleson left arm orthodox 0:07:50.013 --> 0:07:53.453 had one more inch so they could have bowled sixteen overs. 0:07:54.093 --> 0:07:57.533 I've spent and you know, with New Zealand batsmen accustomed 0:07:57.613 --> 0:08:01.333 to a lot of medium pace bowling, hitting through the line, 0:08:02.213 --> 0:08:05.053 you know, with pace on the ball. Suddenly when you're 0:08:05.093 --> 0:08:09.453 confronted by over after over of spin, you know where 0:08:09.453 --> 0:08:12.773 you've got to assess links. You've got to watch for 0:08:12.813 --> 0:08:16.013 a bit for turn you know, they get through their 0:08:16.093 --> 0:08:20.173 overs quickly. Spinners you need a wide range of shots 0:08:20.733 --> 0:08:23.013 because you can't just smash it down the ground. You've 0:08:23.013 --> 0:08:25.773 got people in the outfield out there. I think it's 0:08:25.853 --> 0:08:29.053 much harder to slog if you've got if your spinners 0:08:29.053 --> 0:08:33.093 are any good, so good footwork needed and it's just 0:08:33.333 --> 0:08:35.653 it's just shown the New Zealanders upper burn, hasn't it. 0:08:36.453 --> 0:08:39.093 Yeah, And they've they've struggled to hit boundaries, as you say, 0:08:39.133 --> 0:08:40.733 and those spinners are hard to head off. And we've 0:08:40.773 --> 0:08:43.373 mentioned in the past that Sophie Ecleston, I think she's 0:08:43.373 --> 0:08:47.613 an outstanding left armspin boller. She does the job. She's tall, 0:08:48.013 --> 0:08:51.253 she has a good control of line and change of 0:08:51.373 --> 0:08:53.813 pace and all those sorts of things that are very 0:08:53.813 --> 0:08:55.573 hard to get on top of when you're when you're 0:08:55.573 --> 0:08:57.453 in the sort of smashing grab mode. 0:08:57.973 --> 0:09:01.333 Yeah, they're obviously preparing too. I think the English side 0:09:01.413 --> 0:09:05.533 for Bangladesh, where the World Cup will be, they're expecting 0:09:05.653 --> 0:09:09.653 spin spin to play a big part throwing, even in 0:09:09.733 --> 0:09:12.413 quite green conditions. There's been a lot of rain in England, 0:09:13.053 --> 0:09:15.733 you know, green conditions they're throwing the spinners and to 0:09:15.933 --> 0:09:18.573 use them and get used to the whole thing about 0:09:18.653 --> 0:09:22.613 bowling a lot in the in the shorter format. So yeah, 0:09:22.693 --> 0:09:25.693 it's difficult for New Zealand. They play. They went, of 0:09:25.733 --> 0:09:29.453 course today for their seemers, didn't They her guest ker 0:09:30.253 --> 0:09:33.893 Row Divine to Whoho and they brought Kasperick back too, 0:09:34.373 --> 0:09:36.133 which is an interesting one once. 0:09:36.933 --> 0:09:39.053 Yes, well she's a t twenty biler and she's probably 0:09:39.093 --> 0:09:43.173 our most effective and successful bowler, but tough on her. 0:09:43.453 --> 0:09:45.333 You know, one over went for eleven or twelve or 0:09:45.373 --> 0:09:48.693 something along those lines. You need a bit more than 0:09:48.733 --> 0:09:50.413 that just to sort of get eight that your turn 0:09:50.973 --> 0:09:55.693 lee and a chance in the remaining three games and 0:09:55.733 --> 0:10:00.493 where we'll review that series once it's completed. I think 0:10:00.493 --> 0:10:04.413 the most interesting thing this week, Jerry, though, is the 0:10:04.533 --> 0:10:07.733 New Zealand players who are playing overseas at the moment 0:10:08.373 --> 0:10:12.973 and the announcement of the contract offers. Well, we know 0:10:13.053 --> 0:10:15.973 that Williamson's not taking a contract, we know that Bolt's 0:10:16.013 --> 0:10:18.253 not having one, we know that Jimmy Neishon doesn't have one. 0:10:18.453 --> 0:10:21.573 But the twenty contracts offered and I think they, you know, 0:10:21.653 --> 0:10:24.533 it sounds really promising for the future. Rutch and Ravendra 0:10:24.773 --> 0:10:27.933 for the first time is getting one. Yes, surprisingly BBC 0:10:28.253 --> 0:10:31.093 is getting one for the first time. Will O'Rourke is 0:10:31.093 --> 0:10:34.893 getting one for the first time. Jacob Duffy. That's the 0:10:35.013 --> 0:10:40.533 trio that are going to replace Wagner's now the Bolt 0:10:40.693 --> 0:10:43.013 Henry et cetera. Henry of course has got one. But 0:10:43.133 --> 0:10:48.293 I think that they're good contract offers for those particular players. 0:10:49.293 --> 0:10:53.373 Yes, I think they're the most experienced group, I think, 0:10:53.413 --> 0:10:56.093 and the ones that we've seen playing test matches recently, 0:10:56.773 --> 0:11:00.013 so well done for them. That allows them now to 0:11:00.093 --> 0:11:04.973 settle into their work throughout the next season. Don't forget 0:11:05.013 --> 0:11:10.253 we've still got other people you mentioned. Some people are 0:11:10.293 --> 0:11:16.093 away playing different kinds of games and mainly of course 0:11:16.133 --> 0:11:19.973 the white ball cricket. But Nathan Smith we've talked about 0:11:20.013 --> 0:11:24.493 on this program a few times at Worcestershire. He's played 0:11:24.493 --> 0:11:29.253 the red ball season for them. You've got Tom Bruce 0:11:29.413 --> 0:11:33.053 the batsman of course, playing for Lancashire. You've got folks 0:11:33.133 --> 0:11:35.933 over there in the UK at the moment playing the 0:11:35.973 --> 0:11:39.453 Blast for Warwickshire. Quite a difficult assignment for him. As 0:11:39.493 --> 0:11:42.453 a bowl of war Edgeburston's are quite a flat track 0:11:42.573 --> 0:11:47.013 usually and usually for help spinners a bit more so those, 0:11:47.093 --> 0:11:49.013 I think. And you've got Will Young over there of 0:11:49.093 --> 0:11:52.173 course playing red bull cricket as well now the Blast. 0:11:52.493 --> 0:11:56.973 So there's a group of players, particularly the bowling, you 0:11:57.013 --> 0:12:01.373 know folks Nathan Smith and Ben Lister's over there as 0:12:01.373 --> 0:12:05.493 well too, is he playing for KNOS So that they're 0:12:05.533 --> 0:12:08.773 all good signs. I think that we are starting to 0:12:08.893 --> 0:12:13.773 get players playing in red ball and white ball cricket overseas. 0:12:14.453 --> 0:12:17.573 We are. Perhaps they're getting some good coaching over there. 0:12:17.613 --> 0:12:21.653 We don't know quite yet who they are, but the 0:12:21.693 --> 0:12:24.213 fact that they're having to play the moving ball, Tom 0:12:24.253 --> 0:12:27.093 Bruce and all those batsmen and Will Young will have 0:12:27.173 --> 0:12:29.733 to be doing that over there with the Duke's ball. 0:12:30.413 --> 0:12:34.773 So I think, you know, we've got players at the moment. Also, 0:12:34.933 --> 0:12:39.613 haven't we Over in Sri Lanka the Lanka Premier League. Seiford, 0:12:39.613 --> 0:12:43.013 Phillips and Chapman are over there. They're all doing well. 0:12:43.653 --> 0:12:45.853 Did Seiford get get a. 0:12:45.813 --> 0:12:48.573 Contract on No, he didn't, but he got one hundred 0:12:48.573 --> 0:12:49.933 and one of the games off he did. 0:12:51.013 --> 0:12:53.813 Yeah, that's right, he's got two hundred and eight off 0:12:53.853 --> 0:12:56.853 four matches. You've got at Colombo. You've got Glenn Phillips, 0:12:56.893 --> 0:12:59.253 he's had a seventy and a fifty and Dan Bullamark 0:12:59.333 --> 0:13:02.853 Chapman started off with a ninety. So they've done they've 0:13:02.853 --> 0:13:05.093 done that, you know pretty well over there and they're 0:13:05.093 --> 0:13:08.853 facing spin so that's that's a good thing to do 0:13:08.973 --> 0:13:11.813 over there. A lot of our gun spinners over there 0:13:11.813 --> 0:13:15.453 playing in that league, and shut Up Carns there and 0:13:15.493 --> 0:13:18.413 Shumsi's there, so you know they're playing against. 0:13:18.133 --> 0:13:22.493 Good players most definitely. And there's also floody players playing 0:13:22.613 --> 0:13:27.613 in the American League Bolt Ferguson, Conway, Satna, Alan Braceball, 0:13:27.693 --> 0:13:30.973 Ravendra Mitchell and Henry. 0:13:31.053 --> 0:13:34.813 So a lot of players scattered around the Northern Hemisphere, 0:13:34.853 --> 0:13:37.613 mainly wads there. But it's that time of the year 0:13:37.653 --> 0:13:40.733 for New Zealanders to make you know, if they've got 0:13:40.773 --> 0:13:43.333 the means to net a bit of cash, then they 0:13:43.453 --> 0:13:45.893 might remain playing for New Zealand. 0:13:46.213 --> 0:13:49.973 That's about twenty one players in various places plying their 0:13:50.013 --> 0:13:52.373 trade and earning their money and you wish them well, 0:13:52.533 --> 0:13:55.453 it's great for them. There's three others of course too 0:13:55.573 --> 0:13:58.853 that are quite interesting from my point of view. They 0:13:59.133 --> 0:14:07.413 have been in India and that's Foxcroft, Robinson and Mitch 0:14:07.453 --> 0:14:10.893 Hay who is an up and coming wicket keeper. And 0:14:10.933 --> 0:14:15.093 I remember saying previously on this program that Peter Fulton 0:14:15.213 --> 0:14:19.413 believes that he is probably the next in line for 0:14:19.653 --> 0:14:23.653 international honors. I suppose when Blundele's days are done. So 0:14:23.693 --> 0:14:28.613 they are doing the hard yards in development in Chennai 0:14:28.733 --> 0:14:32.213 in India and smart place to go if you want 0:14:32.253 --> 0:14:34.053 to learn a little bit about cricket. 0:14:34.453 --> 0:14:39.213 Yep batting particularly. I think Foxcroft he's more of a 0:14:39.293 --> 0:14:41.053 batting all round us and he bowls a bit of 0:14:41.053 --> 0:14:46.133 offspin as well, but he'll be interested in and also 0:14:46.173 --> 0:14:49.773 well Hay as well as a wicket keeper batsman nowadays. 0:14:51.413 --> 0:14:55.173 So I mean they basically are players and Robinson of 0:14:55.173 --> 0:14:58.413 course top order, but they will be learning things like 0:14:58.453 --> 0:15:01.253 sweeping the ball, particularly where the ball is not bouncing 0:15:01.333 --> 0:15:04.253 quite so much, where it's turning quite a lot, how 0:15:04.333 --> 0:15:06.853 to play that sweep, in the variety of sweeps that 0:15:06.933 --> 0:15:10.493 you can play, very important as an attacking unit and 0:15:10.533 --> 0:15:15.413 for manipulating the fields, getting a bowler off his line 0:15:15.453 --> 0:15:20.533 and link, so really important kind of skills to learn 0:15:21.053 --> 0:15:25.053 and learning from. I think quite an experienced coach as well. 0:15:26.053 --> 0:15:29.253 Yeah, at Chennai, Super King's at the moment. The interesting 0:15:29.293 --> 0:15:33.453 thing is, of course that they're all in these pretty 0:15:33.573 --> 0:15:37.933 over competition leagues. The players are going it is that 0:15:38.053 --> 0:15:40.933 a concern for the game here. Yes, you've got to 0:15:40.973 --> 0:15:43.653 take the opportunity to end money and they will be 0:15:43.693 --> 0:15:47.973 pretty lucrative contracts. I imagine all these players wrong, including 0:15:48.013 --> 0:15:50.933 those who are currently in England. Will Young is there, 0:15:50.933 --> 0:15:53.893 Tom Bruce as you mentioned previously, Ben Lister, Nathan Smith, 0:15:54.253 --> 0:15:58.453 Zach Fuchs, all those players are there. They've got to 0:15:58.453 --> 0:16:02.773 take those opportunities. But we've got to ensure also that 0:16:02.973 --> 0:16:06.853 they're not swept up in this T twenty, that we're 0:16:06.893 --> 0:16:09.773 still able to get the players for our domestic game 0:16:09.893 --> 0:16:13.013 and use them in our domestic game as well, aren't we. 0:16:13.973 --> 0:16:17.373 Yeah? I think that's just that's just keeping in touchesn't it, Wads. 0:16:19.333 --> 0:16:21.613 I would if I had anything to do with it, 0:16:21.613 --> 0:16:24.653 I'd be talking to those players quite a bit, just 0:16:24.693 --> 0:16:29.893 to you know, you'd try not to get lots of 0:16:29.973 --> 0:16:33.013 players because they suddenly enjoy it, or because they suddenly 0:16:33.013 --> 0:16:38.613 play well, really well, and other franchises then suddenly start 0:16:38.653 --> 0:16:41.533 looking at them, and then they start moving away from 0:16:41.613 --> 0:16:45.693 the New Zealand Test side in particular and playing their 0:16:45.733 --> 0:16:49.733 cricket and he implaying their trade here. So I look, 0:16:50.013 --> 0:16:52.933 we can't stop this. We can't stop it at all. 0:16:53.333 --> 0:16:55.133 This is a good time of the year for them 0:16:55.173 --> 0:16:57.813 to be playing over there. At least they're playing the game. 0:16:57.933 --> 0:17:01.813 People like Conway very good for him to be playing 0:17:01.853 --> 0:17:05.853 over there. They're playing against good players. There are lots 0:17:05.853 --> 0:17:08.333 of Australians over there. There are lots of South Aft 0:17:08.333 --> 0:17:11.373 Frickens in that MLC. You don't tell me if Pat 0:17:11.413 --> 0:17:14.333 Cummins is going for four years that they're not paying 0:17:14.373 --> 0:17:19.693 a good summary over there for his family, so you know, 0:17:19.893 --> 0:17:23.733 and they are. There are some good quality players, so 0:17:24.653 --> 0:17:27.933 they're not missing out on that. It's just a question 0:17:28.053 --> 0:17:30.213 we now want. We'd like them to come back if 0:17:30.213 --> 0:17:34.413 they can, and we'll probably lose one or two. I mean, 0:17:34.533 --> 0:17:38.013 that's just a fact of it. Nowadays players have got 0:17:38.053 --> 0:17:40.733 to make their own choices there. We want the rest 0:17:40.773 --> 0:17:41.413 to come back. 0:17:41.933 --> 0:17:46.053 Yeah. The only players who are on the contract offers 0:17:46.453 --> 0:17:49.613 list who aren't away overseas at the moment were basically 0:17:50.173 --> 0:17:55.013 Duffy and O'Rourke and Seers are amongst that group. Ish 0:17:55.293 --> 0:17:59.533 Sody isn't overseas at the moment AJS Patel has got 0:17:59.573 --> 0:18:02.053 the contract back, I think that's brilliant as well, to 0:18:02.093 --> 0:18:04.773 add to the spinning resources that he's ill have got 0:18:05.013 --> 0:18:08.613 and the likes of Tom Latham, Kyle Jamison hopefully he's 0:18:08.653 --> 0:18:14.093 recovering from his injury issues, and Henry Nichols, I think 0:18:14.133 --> 0:18:17.013 about the only ones who aren't overseas. So you know, 0:18:17.373 --> 0:18:20.413 we've still got the basis of what is going to 0:18:20.453 --> 0:18:26.693 be our test side around the contract offers list. When 0:18:27.093 --> 0:18:29.813 it comes to the test matches we've got because there's 0:18:29.813 --> 0:18:33.413 a few coming up against Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, India and 0:18:33.453 --> 0:18:35.333 of course the home tests against England. 0:18:36.453 --> 0:18:40.493 You know, I mean everybody involved in the game will 0:18:40.573 --> 0:18:45.373 hope that our players and we don't have quite so 0:18:45.453 --> 0:18:48.933 many to select from, do we, but that they we 0:18:49.333 --> 0:18:53.413 don't go the way of the West Indies where suddenly 0:18:53.493 --> 0:18:58.093 players are selecting to go for the white ball game. 0:19:00.773 --> 0:19:03.173 If you look at that side, as we will at 0:19:03.173 --> 0:19:08.253 some stage that there is a complete separation now between 0:19:08.373 --> 0:19:11.533 the West Indies T twenty side and the West Indies 0:19:11.573 --> 0:19:17.173 Test match side. They are entirely different. Players one or 0:19:17.213 --> 0:19:20.253 two are doing both, but that's the maxim So players 0:19:20.253 --> 0:19:24.173 like Nicholas Kooran and Shay Hope Cha. I hope they 0:19:25.733 --> 0:19:27.893 just don't want to be playing Test cricket and that's 0:19:27.933 --> 0:19:31.893 their choice, I guess. So yeah, we hope that doesn't 0:19:31.933 --> 0:19:33.013 happen to New Zealand. 0:19:33.773 --> 0:19:37.093 Let's have a look at that format then, and that issue. 0:19:37.213 --> 0:19:40.173 With the T twenties completed in the West Indies, a 0:19:40.253 --> 0:19:44.453 quick change for both sides that are starting a Test 0:19:44.893 --> 0:19:47.613 series now England and the West Indies starts this week. 0:19:48.133 --> 0:19:50.613 The listeners in the Caribbean had greater options than we 0:19:50.693 --> 0:19:53.333 did for the World T twenty. They had radio commentary 0:19:53.893 --> 0:19:56.573 up to date with the proceedings. Radio is important in 0:19:56.613 --> 0:19:59.893 the Caribbean, Beca's not everybody can afford the television. A 0:20:00.013 --> 0:20:03.733 top commentator from Barbados, Andrew Mason and his team called 0:20:03.733 --> 0:20:06.853 the game. He joins us from Bridgetown where he's the 0:20:06.933 --> 0:20:10.453 voice of Caribbean cricket and Edward guess it all went 0:20:10.533 --> 0:20:13.653 pretty well for you on the A wives in that 0:20:13.693 --> 0:20:14.333 paddle the world? 0:20:15.053 --> 0:20:17.893 Yeah, well, you know, I'm very big on radio. It 0:20:17.973 --> 0:20:22.493 was very difficult to actually get the rights from the ICC, 0:20:22.653 --> 0:20:26.173 but thanks to Cricket West Indies were able to secure 0:20:26.213 --> 0:20:29.533 those rights and I'll report to you that we had 0:20:29.653 --> 0:20:34.013 tremendous success in that as many as thirteen stations across 0:20:34.053 --> 0:20:36.893 the Caribbean carried the cricket. It was an our backyard. 0:20:37.213 --> 0:20:40.573 I think they were recognizing importance of the coverage, as 0:20:40.613 --> 0:20:42.893 you know that radio is ready on the back foot 0:20:42.933 --> 0:20:45.493 now with so much television. But that's where it all 0:20:45.533 --> 0:20:48.853 started and people really appreciated the fact that we were 0:20:48.893 --> 0:20:51.213 able to do the coverage. What we did was that 0:20:51.253 --> 0:20:53.933 we did off tube and the games at Kenses. We 0:20:53.973 --> 0:20:57.133 went to Kens' novel and did the game. So in 0:20:57.253 --> 0:21:01.933 terms of the listenership, it was absolutely marvelous. When we 0:21:01.973 --> 0:21:04.653 looked at the figures, we were completely surprised by the figure. 0:21:04.733 --> 0:21:08.053 So in the final analysis, Radio in fact came out 0:21:08.653 --> 0:21:11.333 then a lot of marks and thanks to the Cricket 0:21:11.333 --> 0:21:15.013 West Sydney's inn ICC for the Lotus to actually carry 0:21:15.013 --> 0:21:16.173 those games, we. 0:21:16.173 --> 0:21:17.733 Might have to get you to New Zealand to do 0:21:17.853 --> 0:21:22.373 some negotiating. Forest in the success let you have there. 0:21:22.493 --> 0:21:26.653 But in terms of the overall tournament, Andrew, how successful 0:21:26.733 --> 0:21:28.693 was it? It seemed as I had had a slow start 0:21:28.773 --> 0:21:32.573 in terms of crowd numbers that it picked up as 0:21:32.773 --> 0:21:34.173 the tournament got some momentum. 0:21:35.093 --> 0:21:37.933 Yeah, well, I think first of all, it was designed 0:21:38.013 --> 0:21:42.373 for India, where there were games a local time, you know, 0:21:44.213 --> 0:21:46.733 thirty in the evening and ten thirty in the morning, 0:21:47.253 --> 0:21:49.373 and of course ten thirty in the Caribbean is prime 0:21:49.453 --> 0:21:51.933 time in India, so that was a problem because I 0:21:51.933 --> 0:21:54.013 remember the very first game that the best Sydneys played 0:21:54.013 --> 0:21:57.333 against Papua New Guinea. That was actually a ten to 0:21:57.493 --> 0:22:00.853 thirty game. It was in Ghana, and there were very 0:22:00.893 --> 0:22:04.413 few people who actually came to watch the game. So 0:22:04.453 --> 0:22:07.493 the times were not good for us because that actually 0:22:07.533 --> 0:22:10.893 start a T twenty match at thirty, You're going to 0:22:10.933 --> 0:22:12.693 be home by one or two o'clock and you don't 0:22:12.733 --> 0:22:16.853 really want so the timing was not good at all. 0:22:16.933 --> 0:22:20.093 So that was a problem. But as you know, India 0:22:20.413 --> 0:22:23.213 their rule of the world. We actually had the finals 0:22:23.573 --> 0:22:26.813 on June to twenty ninth at ten thirty in the 0:22:26.853 --> 0:22:29.333 morning in the boiling sun. You know, that was not 0:22:29.373 --> 0:22:31.613 good at all and it was not a full host. 0:22:31.653 --> 0:22:34.933 People complained bitterly about it, but in the finant nasays 0:22:35.013 --> 0:22:36.453 it was a pretty good final. 0:22:36.733 --> 0:22:40.853 Hey, good gradsy particularly from iverseas tourists from England and 0:22:41.453 --> 0:22:45.173 such like. How about West Indian fans. Did I turn 0:22:45.293 --> 0:22:47.933 up and were the happy with the why the team perform? 0:22:48.333 --> 0:22:50.973 Well, you know, the West side East side is so 0:22:51.133 --> 0:22:54.213 unpredictable now that we thank God for, as they say, 0:22:54.293 --> 0:22:58.813 small mercies. We were in, you know, up against your 0:22:58.853 --> 0:23:01.973 side in New Zealand and against Afghanistan, and there were 0:23:02.093 --> 0:23:04.053