1 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:12,013 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk, said b. 2 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:15,213 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 3 00:00:15,373 --> 00:00:20,853 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio. 4 00:00:21,093 --> 00:00:25,413 Speaker 2: Take another pat, It's a trick, it is out, the 5 00:00:25,493 --> 00:00:26,133 Speaker 2: test is over. 6 00:00:28,333 --> 00:00:30,613 Speaker 3: Couldn't smoke. Oh wow, was a beauty. 7 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:33,853 Speaker 2: This is out and hearing guys, this delivery. 8 00:00:33,533 --> 00:00:35,333 Speaker 4: Has in you uses before. 9 00:00:37,493 --> 00:00:40,893 Speaker 1: On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody 10 00:00:41,173 --> 00:00:45,693 Speaker 1: powered by News Talks head B at iHeart Radio. 11 00:00:47,533 --> 00:00:50,253 Speaker 2: Hello, nice to have you join us once again on 12 00:00:50,293 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 2: the front foot. Well, the rain effected loss for our 13 00:00:53,053 --> 00:00:55,693 Speaker 2: White fun Yeah, it was nine hours as a side 14 00:00:56,013 --> 00:01:01,013 Speaker 2: Blackworth Lewis Stern Cayman to to play leading West Indian 15 00:01:01,053 --> 00:01:04,133 Speaker 2: players off out of a test tour of England. It 16 00:01:04,253 --> 00:01:07,093 Speaker 2: was the same likely to appear in the black Caps 17 00:01:07,093 --> 00:01:10,253 Speaker 2: downtime you used to pick by some of our international 18 00:01:10,293 --> 00:01:13,493 Speaker 2: players and the West Indies are in England and the 19 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:16,653 Speaker 2: Caribbean Assessment of the World T twenty all that coming 20 00:01:16,733 --> 00:01:20,093 Speaker 2: up on the front foot with me Brian Model and 21 00:01:20,133 --> 00:01:22,933 Speaker 2: the Jeremy Coney and Jeremy Coney, I start by asking 22 00:01:22,973 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 2: you which captain would you much rather be in the 23 00:01:26,373 --> 00:01:29,373 Speaker 2: county game that recently ended in the tie. This has 24 00:01:29,413 --> 00:01:32,733 Speaker 2: happened since our last program on the front foot. The 25 00:01:32,813 --> 00:01:35,693 Speaker 2: captain who set five ninety three to win or the 26 00:01:35,693 --> 00:01:39,213 Speaker 2: captain of the side who got five ninety two to tie, 27 00:01:39,293 --> 00:01:40,693 Speaker 2: Who would you much rather be? 28 00:01:43,413 --> 00:01:47,133 Speaker 3: Not an easy choice, is it, really? I guess once 29 00:01:47,173 --> 00:01:49,453 Speaker 3: you've got to five ninety two and you've got the 30 00:01:49,493 --> 00:01:54,173 Speaker 3: whole of that last over to get one run, um, 31 00:01:55,093 --> 00:01:57,613 Speaker 3: you might be a wee bit disappointed. But getting the 32 00:01:57,653 --> 00:02:00,093 Speaker 3: five ninety is not a bad effort, is it really? 33 00:02:00,253 --> 00:02:05,453 Speaker 3: And it wasn't a bad catch, was it. Either? The 34 00:02:05,573 --> 00:02:09,013 Speaker 3: keeper had had his glove off and took it in 35 00:02:09,093 --> 00:02:12,093 Speaker 3: his took it, you know, with the with the glove 36 00:02:12,173 --> 00:02:15,373 Speaker 3: off and just in the hands. You know, the shemis 37 00:02:15,493 --> 00:02:18,173 Speaker 3: just on up to his right. And it was a 38 00:02:18,213 --> 00:02:21,413 Speaker 3: great catch, a little fine edge too. I mean it 39 00:02:22,573 --> 00:02:25,093 Speaker 3: could easily have raced away just wide of him, so 40 00:02:25,853 --> 00:02:32,133 Speaker 3: very close. What a game Glamorgan was it? Glamorgan and Glouceston, Gloucestershire. Yeah. 41 00:02:31,813 --> 00:02:35,693 Speaker 2: And the keeper basically did an Olympic marathon in celebration, 42 00:02:35,853 --> 00:02:40,093 Speaker 2: didn't he. I mean he did fifteen circuits of the ground. 43 00:02:40,693 --> 00:02:44,933 Speaker 2: James Bracy was his name. Stunning catch. It got rid 44 00:02:44,973 --> 00:02:49,493 Speaker 2: of Jamie McElroy, a well known name in the Glamorgan side. 45 00:02:49,533 --> 00:02:52,413 Speaker 2: He was the last man and he was given the 46 00:02:52,453 --> 00:02:55,693 Speaker 2: opportunity to win the game that had been set up. 47 00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:57,933 Speaker 2: You know, when you think they got you know, pretty 48 00:02:57,933 --> 00:03:02,373 Speaker 2: well six hundred to lead leave the five ninety three 49 00:03:02,453 --> 00:03:04,653 Speaker 2: Sam Northeast, you know the man. We spoke about it 50 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:06,933 Speaker 2: start of the year with the triple hundred. He got 51 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:09,813 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven. They got Manus Labershane or 52 00:03:09,853 --> 00:03:12,373 Speaker 2: mel Labisketny or however you want to pronounce his name, 53 00:03:12,373 --> 00:03:18,253 Speaker 2: playing from Morgan, he got nineteen fift one hundred and 54 00:03:18,333 --> 00:03:22,533 Speaker 2: nineteen and then you know you need five to actually 55 00:03:22,613 --> 00:03:25,173 Speaker 2: get close to five ninety two, as you say, is 56 00:03:26,133 --> 00:03:31,013 Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. Mason Crane was left stranded at the nun 57 00:03:31,093 --> 00:03:34,893 Speaker 2: Strikers in unbeaten on forty two. Probably could have won, Yeah, 58 00:03:35,253 --> 00:03:37,333 Speaker 2: might have made a wrong decision to get down that end, 59 00:03:37,413 --> 00:03:40,333 Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but oh what a finish to a game. 60 00:03:40,373 --> 00:03:43,453 Speaker 2: I think that's an outstanding game of cricket really when 61 00:03:43,493 --> 00:03:46,493 Speaker 2: you look at it. Neither side got to two hundred 62 00:03:46,533 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 2: and their first innings, well that. 63 00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:51,933 Speaker 3: I suppose allowed the time to score that big second 64 00:03:51,933 --> 00:03:55,813 Speaker 3: inning for both teams didn't it. That's fantastic, obviously a 65 00:03:55,853 --> 00:04:03,013 Speaker 3: good pitch and yeah, my word, that's a cracker cracker 66 00:04:03,053 --> 00:04:03,853 Speaker 3: of the game. 67 00:04:04,453 --> 00:04:07,693 Speaker 2: Five ninety two. Oh we played well yeah on the 68 00:04:07,733 --> 00:04:13,293 Speaker 2: last game at five ninety two and spide oh goodness, 69 00:04:13,373 --> 00:04:15,733 Speaker 2: be I reckon. The White Ferns would probably like to 70 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:20,653 Speaker 2: be in that situation sadly though. They've lost another game, 71 00:04:21,053 --> 00:04:23,973 Speaker 2: a traditional nine overs, a side game. I guess you 72 00:04:24,053 --> 00:04:26,653 Speaker 2: have to be able to play those length of games 73 00:04:26,693 --> 00:04:29,173 Speaker 2: when you're playing in T twenty competitions, because that's what 74 00:04:29,293 --> 00:04:32,293 Speaker 2: happens when you come to World Championships nine overs. They 75 00:04:32,293 --> 00:04:34,213 Speaker 2: weren't able to chase it down. They were beaten by 76 00:04:34,493 --> 00:04:38,373 Speaker 2: Duckworth Lewis. It's just another sad chapter in terms of 77 00:04:38,973 --> 00:04:42,133 Speaker 2: the White Ferns that they are really struggling over there, 78 00:04:42,133 --> 00:04:44,613 Speaker 2: and we've spoken about them. I think we'll leave them 79 00:04:44,613 --> 00:04:48,173 Speaker 2: to get on with their task. Let's get some reflection anyway, 80 00:04:48,253 --> 00:04:50,813 Speaker 2: from Lear to who on the game. 81 00:04:51,733 --> 00:04:53,093 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, I think it was good to get out there. 82 00:04:53,093 --> 00:04:54,773 Speaker 5: I think you know, we knew there was going to 83 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:56,093 Speaker 5: be a lot of rain around. I think the ground 84 00:04:56,173 --> 00:04:59,413 Speaker 5: is the fantastic job to get us out there. You 85 00:04:59,453 --> 00:05:02,813 Speaker 5: know that in twenty cricket, anything can happen. We've played 86 00:05:02,813 --> 00:05:04,893 Speaker 5: shortened games before, we kind of know what to expect, 87 00:05:04,933 --> 00:05:07,573 Speaker 5: and you know, we change a few things around in 88 00:05:07,573 --> 00:05:10,213 Speaker 5: our team to to try and sort of counter that. Yeah, look, 89 00:05:10,253 --> 00:05:12,253 Speaker 5: always happy to take some wickets and you know, try 90 00:05:12,293 --> 00:05:13,973 Speaker 5: and contribute to what we're trying to do out there. 91 00:05:14,493 --> 00:05:16,693 Speaker 5: You know, that's my job up top there is to 92 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:18,213 Speaker 5: try and take some wickets and get us off to 93 00:05:18,213 --> 00:05:20,373 Speaker 5: a good start. So, you know, always pleasing to be 94 00:05:20,413 --> 00:05:24,053 Speaker 5: able to do that. Yeah, I think from a bowling innings, 95 00:05:24,053 --> 00:05:26,053 Speaker 5: I think we actually didn't bowl too badly. I think, 96 00:05:26,813 --> 00:05:28,573 Speaker 5: you know, it was a tricky wicket in terms of 97 00:05:28,613 --> 00:05:30,733 Speaker 5: the ball was skidding on nicely onto the bat. The 98 00:05:30,733 --> 00:05:33,373 Speaker 5: outfield was obviously skidding on as well, So from that 99 00:05:33,413 --> 00:05:35,653 Speaker 5: point of view, I think we were probably thinking that 100 00:05:35,733 --> 00:05:39,013 Speaker 5: ninety was about pa so but yeah, like I think 101 00:05:39,133 --> 00:05:40,533 Speaker 5: with the bat it's sort of been a bit of 102 00:05:40,533 --> 00:05:43,373 Speaker 5: a theme of ours. I think it's probably going away 103 00:05:43,413 --> 00:05:44,933 Speaker 5: and just having a look at the decisions that we're 104 00:05:44,933 --> 00:05:48,053 Speaker 5: making as batters. And you know, I think the girls 105 00:05:48,053 --> 00:05:50,733 Speaker 5: have worked incredibly hard over the winter and I think 106 00:05:50,733 --> 00:05:52,493 Speaker 5: it's now just being able to put that out into 107 00:05:52,533 --> 00:05:54,413 Speaker 5: the middle, sort of take that form from the nets 108 00:05:54,413 --> 00:05:57,533 Speaker 5: out into the middle. Yeah, look, everything was focused towards 109 00:05:57,533 --> 00:06:00,573 Speaker 5: that teach when you World Cup, really no, betters are 110 00:06:00,573 --> 00:06:02,533 Speaker 5: looking at different ways of being able to score, knowing 111 00:06:02,613 --> 00:06:04,893 Speaker 5: the conditions that we're going to over there, and trying 112 00:06:04,893 --> 00:06:07,133 Speaker 5: to probably open up more areas of the ground and 113 00:06:07,173 --> 00:06:09,933 Speaker 5: as bowlers, I think more seemans have got one or 114 00:06:09,933 --> 00:06:12,573 Speaker 5: two sort of slow balls and different variations that we've 115 00:06:12,573 --> 00:06:14,893 Speaker 5: been working on again knowing that the condition is going 116 00:06:14,933 --> 00:06:16,573 Speaker 5: to be incredibly different to what we've just played on 117 00:06:16,613 --> 00:06:19,093 Speaker 5: out there, and you know, we've done a similar thing 118 00:06:19,133 --> 00:06:21,253 Speaker 5: to England around sort of tinkering with the team and 119 00:06:21,293 --> 00:06:24,213 Speaker 5: trying to get different combinations working knowing that we've got 120 00:06:24,333 --> 00:06:27,693 Speaker 5: ten games until that first T twenty World Cup match. 121 00:06:28,053 --> 00:06:30,813 Speaker 2: Nine overs are side. You can't make judgments on teams 122 00:06:31,093 --> 00:06:32,693 Speaker 2: in those circumstances, can you, really? 123 00:06:32,773 --> 00:06:35,973 Speaker 3: No, not really, and so we could just put that 124 00:06:36,013 --> 00:06:39,293 Speaker 3: one to one side. Really a pretty new zeven lost 125 00:06:39,813 --> 00:06:44,773 Speaker 3: divine baits curves early on in those overs. Really when 126 00:06:44,773 --> 00:06:48,013 Speaker 3: you're chasing well it was virtually what one hundred or 127 00:06:48,093 --> 00:06:52,613 Speaker 3: ninety or something like that they were chasing, So you 128 00:06:52,653 --> 00:06:55,053 Speaker 3: know you're going for ten and over. You need one 129 00:06:55,053 --> 00:06:57,813 Speaker 3: of those big players to do either get out of 130 00:06:57,853 --> 00:07:01,413 Speaker 3: the blocks early for the first three overs which would 131 00:07:01,413 --> 00:07:05,533 Speaker 3: be the power play, and then carry on if you can. 132 00:07:05,573 --> 00:07:07,293 Speaker 3: You need one of those players to back most of 133 00:07:07,293 --> 00:07:09,893 Speaker 3: the overs if you can. Way for New Zealand, it 134 00:07:10,013 --> 00:07:12,653 Speaker 3: was the first the first game though was they were 135 00:07:12,973 --> 00:07:16,533 Speaker 3: again the thing I think New Zealand are finding hard 136 00:07:16,573 --> 00:07:19,693 Speaker 3: with the batting and scoring runs is that they are 137 00:07:19,733 --> 00:07:24,533 Speaker 3: being confronted by lots of spinners. And yes, in this 138 00:07:24,613 --> 00:07:29,053 Speaker 3: particular game, this first T twenty, England got one well 139 00:07:29,133 --> 00:07:31,733 Speaker 3: nearly two hundred, so they were kind of going at 140 00:07:31,773 --> 00:07:36,653 Speaker 3: ten runs and over, and they then had to come 141 00:07:36,653 --> 00:07:42,093 Speaker 3: out and confront four spinners. And that is fourteen overs 142 00:07:42,093 --> 00:07:45,813 Speaker 3: were bowled by the English spinners and the Eccleston and Dean. 143 00:07:46,053 --> 00:07:49,373 Speaker 3: The Dean the off spinner and eckleson left arm orthodox 144 00:07:50,013 --> 00:07:53,453 Speaker 3: had one more inch so they could have bowled sixteen overs. 145 00:07:54,093 --> 00:07:57,533 Speaker 3: I've spent and you know, with New Zealand batsmen accustomed 146 00:07:57,613 --> 00:08:01,333 Speaker 3: to a lot of medium pace bowling, hitting through the line, 147 00:08:02,213 --> 00:08:05,053 Speaker 3: you know, with pace on the ball. Suddenly when you're 148 00:08:05,093 --> 00:08:09,453 Speaker 3: confronted by over after over of spin, you know where 149 00:08:09,453 --> 00:08:12,773 Speaker 3: you've got to assess links. You've got to watch for 150 00:08:12,813 --> 00:08:16,013 Speaker 3: a bit for turn you know, they get through their 151 00:08:16,093 --> 00:08:20,173 Speaker 3: overs quickly. Spinners you need a wide range of shots 152 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:23,013 Speaker 3: because you can't just smash it down the ground. You've 153 00:08:23,013 --> 00:08:25,773 Speaker 3: got people in the outfield out there. I think it's 154 00:08:25,853 --> 00:08:29,053 Speaker 3: much harder to slog if you've got if your spinners 155 00:08:29,053 --> 00:08:33,093 Speaker 3: are any good, so good footwork needed and it's just 156 00:08:33,333 --> 00:08:35,653 Speaker 3: it's just shown the New Zealanders upper burn, hasn't it. 157 00:08:36,453 --> 00:08:39,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they've they've struggled to hit boundaries, as you say, 158 00:08:39,133 --> 00:08:40,733 Speaker 2: and those spinners are hard to head off. And we've 159 00:08:40,773 --> 00:08:43,373 Speaker 2: mentioned in the past that Sophie Ecleston, I think she's 160 00:08:43,373 --> 00:08:47,613 Speaker 2: an outstanding left armspin boller. She does the job. She's tall, 161 00:08:48,013 --> 00:08:51,253 Speaker 2: she has a good control of line and change of 162 00:08:51,373 --> 00:08:53,813 Speaker 2: pace and all those sorts of things that are very 163 00:08:53,813 --> 00:08:55,573 Speaker 2: hard to get on top of when you're when you're 164 00:08:55,573 --> 00:08:57,453 Speaker 2: in the sort of smashing grab mode. 165 00:08:57,973 --> 00:09:01,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're obviously preparing too. I think the English side 166 00:09:01,413 --> 00:09:05,533 Speaker 3: for Bangladesh, where the World Cup will be, they're expecting 167 00:09:05,653 --> 00:09:09,653 Speaker 3: spin spin to play a big part throwing, even in 168 00:09:09,733 --> 00:09:12,413 Speaker 3: quite green conditions. There's been a lot of rain in England, 169 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:15,733 Speaker 3: you know, green conditions they're throwing the spinners and to 170 00:09:15,933 --> 00:09:18,573 Speaker 3: use them and get used to the whole thing about 171 00:09:18,653 --> 00:09:22,613 Speaker 3: bowling a lot in the in the shorter format. So yeah, 172 00:09:22,693 --> 00:09:25,693 Speaker 3: it's difficult for New Zealand. They play. They went, of 173 00:09:25,733 --> 00:09:29,453 Speaker 3: course today for their seemers, didn't They her guest ker 174 00:09:30,253 --> 00:09:33,893 Speaker 3: Row Divine to Whoho and they brought Kasperick back too, 175 00:09:34,373 --> 00:09:36,133 Speaker 3: which is an interesting one once. 176 00:09:36,933 --> 00:09:39,053 Speaker 2: Yes, well she's a t twenty biler and she's probably 177 00:09:39,093 --> 00:09:43,173 Speaker 2: our most effective and successful bowler, but tough on her. 178 00:09:43,453 --> 00:09:45,333 Speaker 2: You know, one over went for eleven or twelve or 179 00:09:45,373 --> 00:09:48,693 Speaker 2: something along those lines. You need a bit more than 180 00:09:48,733 --> 00:09:50,413 Speaker 2: that just to sort of get eight that your turn 181 00:09:50,973 --> 00:09:55,693 Speaker 2: lee and a chance in the remaining three games and 182 00:09:55,733 --> 00:10:00,493 Speaker 2: where we'll review that series once it's completed. I think 183 00:10:00,493 --> 00:10:04,413 Speaker 2: the most interesting thing this week, Jerry, though, is the 184 00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:07,733 Speaker 2: New Zealand players who are playing overseas at the moment 185 00:10:08,373 --> 00:10:12,973 Speaker 2: and the announcement of the contract offers. Well, we know 186 00:10:13,053 --> 00:10:15,973 Speaker 2: that Williamson's not taking a contract, we know that Bolt's 187 00:10:16,013 --> 00:10:18,253 Speaker 2: not having one, we know that Jimmy Neishon doesn't have one. 188 00:10:18,453 --> 00:10:21,573 Speaker 2: But the twenty contracts offered and I think they, you know, 189 00:10:21,653 --> 00:10:24,533 Speaker 2: it sounds really promising for the future. Rutch and Ravendra 190 00:10:24,773 --> 00:10:27,933 Speaker 2: for the first time is getting one. Yes, surprisingly BBC 191 00:10:28,253 --> 00:10:31,093 Speaker 2: is getting one for the first time. Will O'Rourke is 192 00:10:31,093 --> 00:10:34,893 Speaker 2: getting one for the first time. Jacob Duffy. That's the 193 00:10:35,013 --> 00:10:40,533 Speaker 2: trio that are going to replace Wagner's now the Bolt 194 00:10:40,693 --> 00:10:43,013 Speaker 2: Henry et cetera. Henry of course has got one. But 195 00:10:43,133 --> 00:10:48,293 Speaker 2: I think that they're good contract offers for those particular players. 196 00:10:49,293 --> 00:10:53,373 Speaker 3: Yes, I think they're the most experienced group, I think, 197 00:10:53,413 --> 00:10:56,093 Speaker 3: and the ones that we've seen playing test matches recently, 198 00:10:56,773 --> 00:11:00,013 Speaker 3: so well done for them. That allows them now to 199 00:11:00,093 --> 00:11:04,973 Speaker 3: settle into their work throughout the next season. Don't forget 200 00:11:05,013 --> 00:11:10,253 Speaker 3: we've still got other people you mentioned. Some people are 201 00:11:10,293 --> 00:11:16,093 Speaker 3: away playing different kinds of games and mainly of course 202 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:19,973 Speaker 3: the white ball cricket. But Nathan Smith we've talked about 203 00:11:20,013 --> 00:11:24,493 Speaker 3: on this program a few times at Worcestershire. He's played 204 00:11:24,493 --> 00:11:29,253 Speaker 3: the red ball season for them. You've got Tom Bruce 205 00:11:29,413 --> 00:11:33,053 Speaker 3: the batsman of course, playing for Lancashire. You've got folks 206 00:11:33,133 --> 00:11:35,933 Speaker 3: over there in the UK at the moment playing the 207 00:11:35,973 --> 00:11:39,453 Speaker 3: Blast for Warwickshire. Quite a difficult assignment for him. As 208 00:11:39,493 --> 00:11:42,453 Speaker 3: a bowl of war Edgeburston's are quite a flat track 209 00:11:42,573 --> 00:11:47,013 Speaker 3: usually and usually for help spinners a bit more so those, 210 00:11:47,093 --> 00:11:49,013 Speaker 3: I think. And you've got Will Young over there of 211 00:11:49,093 --> 00:11:52,173 Speaker 3: course playing red bull cricket as well now the Blast. 212 00:11:52,493 --> 00:11:56,973 Speaker 3: So there's a group of players, particularly the bowling, you 213 00:11:57,013 --> 00:12:01,373 Speaker 3: know folks Nathan Smith and Ben Lister's over there as 214 00:12:01,373 --> 00:12:05,493 Speaker 3: well too, is he playing for KNOS So that they're 215 00:12:05,533 --> 00:12:08,773 Speaker 3: all good signs. I think that we are starting to 216 00:12:08,893 --> 00:12:13,773 Speaker 3: get players playing in red ball and white ball cricket overseas. 217 00:12:14,453 --> 00:12:17,573 Speaker 3: We are. Perhaps they're getting some good coaching over there. 218 00:12:17,613 --> 00:12:21,653 Speaker 3: We don't know quite yet who they are, but the 219 00:12:21,693 --> 00:12:24,213 Speaker 3: fact that they're having to play the moving ball, Tom 220 00:12:24,253 --> 00:12:27,093 Speaker 3: Bruce and all those batsmen and Will Young will have 221 00:12:27,173 --> 00:12:29,733 Speaker 3: to be doing that over there with the Duke's ball. 222 00:12:30,413 --> 00:12:34,773 Speaker 3: So I think, you know, we've got players at the moment. Also, 223 00:12:34,933 --> 00:12:39,613 Speaker 3: haven't we Over in Sri Lanka the Lanka Premier League. Seiford, 224 00:12:39,613 --> 00:12:43,013 Speaker 3: Phillips and Chapman are over there. They're all doing well. 225 00:12:43,653 --> 00:12:45,853 Speaker 3: Did Seiford get get a. 226 00:12:45,813 --> 00:12:48,573 Speaker 2: Contract on No, he didn't, but he got one hundred 227 00:12:48,573 --> 00:12:49,933 Speaker 2: and one of the games off he did. 228 00:12:51,013 --> 00:12:53,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, he's got two hundred and eight off 229 00:12:53,853 --> 00:12:56,853 Speaker 3: four matches. You've got at Colombo. You've got Glenn Phillips, 230 00:12:56,893 --> 00:12:59,253 Speaker 3: he's had a seventy and a fifty and Dan Bullamark 231 00:12:59,333 --> 00:13:02,853 Speaker 3: Chapman started off with a ninety. So they've done they've 232 00:13:02,853 --> 00:13:05,093 Speaker 3: done that, you know pretty well over there and they're 233 00:13:05,093 --> 00:13:08,853 Speaker 3: facing spin so that's that's a good thing to do 234 00:13:08,973 --> 00:13:11,813 Speaker 3: over there. A lot of our gun spinners over there 235 00:13:11,813 --> 00:13:15,453 Speaker 3: playing in that league, and shut Up Carns there and 236 00:13:15,493 --> 00:13:18,413 Speaker 3: Shumsi's there, so you know they're playing against. 237 00:13:18,133 --> 00:13:22,493 Speaker 2: Good players most definitely. And there's also floody players playing 238 00:13:22,613 --> 00:13:27,613 Speaker 2: in the American League Bolt Ferguson, Conway, Satna, Alan Braceball, 239 00:13:27,693 --> 00:13:30,973 Speaker 2: Ravendra Mitchell and Henry. 240 00:13:31,053 --> 00:13:34,813 Speaker 3: So a lot of players scattered around the Northern Hemisphere, 241 00:13:34,853 --> 00:13:37,613 Speaker 3: mainly wads there. But it's that time of the year 242 00:13:37,653 --> 00:13:40,733 Speaker 3: for New Zealanders to make you know, if they've got 243 00:13:40,773 --> 00:13:43,333 Speaker 3: the means to net a bit of cash, then they 244 00:13:43,453 --> 00:13:45,893 Speaker 3: might remain playing for New Zealand. 245 00:13:46,213 --> 00:13:49,973 Speaker 2: That's about twenty one players in various places plying their 246 00:13:50,013 --> 00:13:52,373 Speaker 2: trade and earning their money and you wish them well, 247 00:13:52,533 --> 00:13:55,453 Speaker 2: it's great for them. There's three others of course too 248 00:13:55,573 --> 00:13:58,853 Speaker 2: that are quite interesting from my point of view. They 249 00:13:59,133 --> 00:14:07,413 Speaker 2: have been in India and that's Foxcroft, Robinson and Mitch 250 00:14:07,453 --> 00:14:10,893 Speaker 2: Hay who is an up and coming wicket keeper. And 251 00:14:10,933 --> 00:14:15,093 Speaker 2: I remember saying previously on this program that Peter Fulton 252 00:14:15,213 --> 00:14:19,413 Speaker 2: believes that he is probably the next in line for 253 00:14:19,653 --> 00:14:23,653 Speaker 2: international honors. I suppose when Blundele's days are done. So 254 00:14:23,693 --> 00:14:28,613 Speaker 2: they are doing the hard yards in development in Chennai 255 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:32,213 Speaker 2: in India and smart place to go if you want 256 00:14:32,253 --> 00:14:34,053 Speaker 2: to learn a little bit about cricket. 257 00:14:34,453 --> 00:14:39,213 Speaker 3: Yep batting particularly. I think Foxcroft he's more of a 258 00:14:39,293 --> 00:14:41,053 Speaker 3: batting all round us and he bowls a bit of 259 00:14:41,053 --> 00:14:46,133 Speaker 3: offspin as well, but he'll be interested in and also 260 00:14:46,173 --> 00:14:49,773 Speaker 3: well Hay as well as a wicket keeper batsman nowadays. 261 00:14:51,413 --> 00:14:55,173 Speaker 3: So I mean they basically are players and Robinson of 262 00:14:55,173 --> 00:14:58,413 Speaker 3: course top order, but they will be learning things like 263 00:14:58,453 --> 00:15:01,253 Speaker 3: sweeping the ball, particularly where the ball is not bouncing 264 00:15:01,333 --> 00:15:04,253 Speaker 3: quite so much, where it's turning quite a lot, how 265 00:15:04,333 --> 00:15:06,853 Speaker 3: to play that sweep, in the variety of sweeps that 266 00:15:06,933 --> 00:15:10,493 Speaker 3: you can play, very important as an attacking unit and 267 00:15:10,533 --> 00:15:15,413 Speaker 3: for manipulating the fields, getting a bowler off his line 268 00:15:15,453 --> 00:15:20,533 Speaker 3: and link, so really important kind of skills to learn 269 00:15:21,053 --> 00:15:25,053 Speaker 3: and learning from. I think quite an experienced coach as well. 270 00:15:26,053 --> 00:15:29,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, at Chennai, Super King's at the moment. The interesting 271 00:15:29,293 --> 00:15:33,453 Speaker 2: thing is, of course that they're all in these pretty 272 00:15:33,573 --> 00:15:37,933 Speaker 2: over competition leagues. The players are going it is that 273 00:15:38,053 --> 00:15:40,933 Speaker 2: a concern for the game here. Yes, you've got to 274 00:15:40,973 --> 00:15:43,653 Speaker 2: take the opportunity to end money and they will be 275 00:15:43,693 --> 00:15:47,973 Speaker 2: pretty lucrative contracts. I imagine all these players wrong, including 276 00:15:48,013 --> 00:15:50,933 Speaker 2: those who are currently in England. Will Young is there, 277 00:15:50,933 --> 00:15:53,893 Speaker 2: Tom Bruce as you mentioned previously, Ben Lister, Nathan Smith, 278 00:15:54,253 --> 00:15:58,453 Speaker 2: Zach Fuchs, all those players are there. They've got to 279 00:15:58,453 --> 00:16:02,773 Speaker 2: take those opportunities. But we've got to ensure also that 280 00:16:02,973 --> 00:16:06,853 Speaker 2: they're not swept up in this T twenty, that we're 281 00:16:06,893 --> 00:16:09,773 Speaker 2: still able to get the players for our domestic game 282 00:16:09,893 --> 00:16:13,013 Speaker 2: and use them in our domestic game as well, aren't we. 283 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:17,373 Speaker 3: Yeah? I think that's just that's just keeping in touchesn't it, Wads. 284 00:16:19,333 --> 00:16:21,613 Speaker 3: I would if I had anything to do with it, 285 00:16:21,613 --> 00:16:24,653 Speaker 3: I'd be talking to those players quite a bit, just 286 00:16:24,693 --> 00:16:29,893 Speaker 3: to you know, you'd try not to get lots of 287 00:16:29,973 --> 00:16:33,013 Speaker 3: players because they suddenly enjoy it, or because they suddenly 288 00:16:33,013 --> 00:16:38,613 Speaker 3: play well, really well, and other franchises then suddenly start 289 00:16:38,653 --> 00:16:41,533 Speaker 3: looking at them, and then they start moving away from 290 00:16:41,613 --> 00:16:45,693 Speaker 3: the New Zealand Test side in particular and playing their 291 00:16:45,733 --> 00:16:49,733 Speaker 3: cricket and he implaying their trade here. So I look, 292 00:16:50,013 --> 00:16:52,933 Speaker 3: we can't stop this. We can't stop it at all. 293 00:16:53,333 --> 00:16:55,133 Speaker 3: This is a good time of the year for them 294 00:16:55,173 --> 00:16:57,813 Speaker 3: to be playing over there. At least they're playing the game. 295 00:16:57,933 --> 00:17:01,813 Speaker 3: People like Conway very good for him to be playing 296 00:17:01,853 --> 00:17:05,853 Speaker 3: over there. They're playing against good players. There are lots 297 00:17:05,853 --> 00:17:08,333 Speaker 3: of Australians over there. There are lots of South Aft 298 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:11,373 Speaker 3: Frickens in that MLC. You don't tell me if Pat 299 00:17:11,413 --> 00:17:14,333 Speaker 3: Cummins is going for four years that they're not paying 300 00:17:14,373 --> 00:17:19,693 Speaker 3: a good summary over there for his family, so you know, 301 00:17:19,893 --> 00:17:23,733 Speaker 3: and they are. There are some good quality players, so 302 00:17:24,653 --> 00:17:27,933 Speaker 3: they're not missing out on that. It's just a question 303 00:17:28,053 --> 00:17:30,213 Speaker 3: we now want. We'd like them to come back if 304 00:17:30,213 --> 00:17:34,413 Speaker 3: they can, and we'll probably lose one or two. I mean, 305 00:17:34,533 --> 00:17:38,013 Speaker 3: that's just a fact of it. Nowadays players have got 306 00:17:38,053 --> 00:17:40,733 Speaker 3: to make their own choices there. We want the rest 307 00:17:40,773 --> 00:17:41,413 Speaker 3: to come back. 308 00:17:41,933 --> 00:17:46,053 Speaker 2: Yeah. The only players who are on the contract offers 309 00:17:46,453 --> 00:17:49,613 Speaker 2: list who aren't away overseas at the moment were basically 310 00:17:50,173 --> 00:17:55,013 Speaker 2: Duffy and O'Rourke and Seers are amongst that group. Ish 311 00:17:55,293 --> 00:17:59,533 Speaker 2: Sody isn't overseas at the moment AJS Patel has got 312 00:17:59,573 --> 00:18:02,053 Speaker 2: the contract back, I think that's brilliant as well, to 313 00:18:02,093 --> 00:18:04,773 Speaker 2: add to the spinning resources that he's ill have got 314 00:18:05,013 --> 00:18:08,613 Speaker 2: and the likes of Tom Latham, Kyle Jamison hopefully he's 315 00:18:08,653 --> 00:18:14,093 Speaker 2: recovering from his injury issues, and Henry Nichols, I think 316 00:18:14,133 --> 00:18:17,013 Speaker 2: about the only ones who aren't overseas. So you know, 317 00:18:17,373 --> 00:18:20,413 Speaker 2: we've still got the basis of what is going to 318 00:18:20,453 --> 00:18:26,693 Speaker 2: be our test side around the contract offers list. When 319 00:18:27,093 --> 00:18:29,813 Speaker 2: it comes to the test matches we've got because there's 320 00:18:29,813 --> 00:18:33,413 Speaker 2: a few coming up against Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, India and 321 00:18:33,453 --> 00:18:35,333 Speaker 2: of course the home tests against England. 322 00:18:36,453 --> 00:18:40,493 Speaker 3: You know, I mean everybody involved in the game will 323 00:18:40,573 --> 00:18:45,373 Speaker 3: hope that our players and we don't have quite so 324 00:18:45,453 --> 00:18:48,933 Speaker 3: many to select from, do we, but that they we 325 00:18:49,333 --> 00:18:53,413 Speaker 3: don't go the way of the West Indies where suddenly 326 00:18:53,493 --> 00:18:58,093 Speaker 3: players are selecting to go for the white ball game. 327 00:19:00,773 --> 00:19:03,173 Speaker 3: If you look at that side, as we will at 328 00:19:03,173 --> 00:19:08,253 Speaker 3: some stage that there is a complete separation now between 329 00:19:08,373 --> 00:19:11,533 Speaker 3: the West Indies T twenty side and the West Indies 330 00:19:11,573 --> 00:19:17,173 Speaker 3: Test match side. They are entirely different. Players one or 331 00:19:17,213 --> 00:19:20,253 Speaker 3: two are doing both, but that's the maxim So players 332 00:19:20,253 --> 00:19:24,173 Speaker 3: like Nicholas Kooran and Shay Hope Cha. I hope they 333 00:19:25,733 --> 00:19:27,893 Speaker 3: just don't want to be playing Test cricket and that's 334 00:19:27,933 --> 00:19:31,893 Speaker 3: their choice, I guess. So yeah, we hope that doesn't 335 00:19:31,933 --> 00:19:33,013 Speaker 3: happen to New Zealand. 336 00:19:33,773 --> 00:19:37,093 Speaker 2: Let's have a look at that format then, and that issue. 337 00:19:37,213 --> 00:19:40,173 Speaker 2: With the T twenties completed in the West Indies, a 338 00:19:40,253 --> 00:19:44,453 Speaker 2: quick change for both sides that are starting a Test 339 00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:47,613 Speaker 2: series now England and the West Indies starts this week. 340 00:19:48,133 --> 00:19:50,613 Speaker 2: The listeners in the Caribbean had greater options than we 341 00:19:50,693 --> 00:19:53,333 Speaker 2: did for the World T twenty. They had radio commentary 342 00:19:53,893 --> 00:19:56,573 Speaker 2: up to date with the proceedings. Radio is important in 343 00:19:56,613 --> 00:19:59,893 Speaker 2: the Caribbean, Beca's not everybody can afford the television. A 344 00:20:00,013 --> 00:20:03,733 Speaker 2: top commentator from Barbados, Andrew Mason and his team called 345 00:20:03,733 --> 00:20:06,853 Speaker 2: the game. He joins us from Bridgetown where he's the 346 00:20:06,933 --> 00:20:10,453 Speaker 2: voice of Caribbean cricket and Edward guess it all went 347 00:20:10,533 --> 00:20:13,653 Speaker 2: pretty well for you on the A wives in that 348 00:20:13,693 --> 00:20:14,333 Speaker 2: paddle the world? 349 00:20:15,053 --> 00:20:17,893 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I'm very big on radio. It 350 00:20:17,973 --> 00:20:22,493 Speaker 4: was very difficult to actually get the rights from the ICC, 351 00:20:22,653 --> 00:20:26,173 Speaker 4: but thanks to Cricket West Indies were able to secure 352 00:20:26,213 --> 00:20:29,533 Speaker 4: those rights and I'll report to you that we had 353 00:20:29,653 --> 00:20:34,013 Speaker 4: tremendous success in that as many as thirteen stations across 354 00:20:34,053 --> 00:20:36,893 Speaker 4: the Caribbean carried the cricket. It was an our backyard. 355 00:20:37,213 --> 00:20:40,573 Speaker 4: I think they were recognizing importance of the coverage, as 356 00:20:40,613 --> 00:20:42,893 Speaker 4: you know that radio is ready on the back foot 357 00:20:42,933 --> 00:20:45,493 Speaker 4: now with so much television. But that's where it all 358 00:20:45,533 --> 00:20:48,853 Speaker 4: started and people really appreciated the fact that we were 359 00:20:48,893 --> 00:20:51,213 Speaker 4: able to do the coverage. What we did was that 360 00:20:51,253 --> 00:20:53,933 Speaker 4: we did off tube and the games at Kenses. We 361 00:20:53,973 --> 00:20:57,133 Speaker 4: went to Kens' novel and did the game. So in 362 00:20:57,253 --> 00:21:01,933 Speaker 4: terms of the listenership, it was absolutely marvelous. When we 363 00:21:01,973 --> 00:21:04,653 Speaker 4: looked at the figures, we were completely surprised by the figure. 364 00:21:04,733 --> 00:21:08,053 Speaker 4: So in the final analysis, Radio in fact came out 365 00:21:08,653 --> 00:21:11,333 Speaker 4: then a lot of marks and thanks to the Cricket 366 00:21:11,333 --> 00:21:15,013 Speaker 4: West Sydney's inn ICC for the Lotus to actually carry 367 00:21:15,013 --> 00:21:16,173 Speaker 4: those games, we. 368 00:21:16,173 --> 00:21:17,733 Speaker 2: Might have to get you to New Zealand to do 369 00:21:17,853 --> 00:21:22,373 Speaker 2: some negotiating. Forest in the success let you have there. 370 00:21:22,493 --> 00:21:26,653 Speaker 2: But in terms of the overall tournament, Andrew, how successful 371 00:21:26,733 --> 00:21:28,693 Speaker 2: was it? It seemed as I had had a slow start 372 00:21:28,773 --> 00:21:32,573 Speaker 2: in terms of crowd numbers that it picked up as 373 00:21:32,773 --> 00:21:34,173 Speaker 2: the tournament got some momentum. 374 00:21:35,093 --> 00:21:37,933 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think first of all, it was designed 375 00:21:38,013 --> 00:21:42,373 Speaker 4: for India, where there were games a local time, you know, 376 00:21:44,213 --> 00:21:46,733 Speaker 4: thirty in the evening and ten thirty in the morning, 377 00:21:47,253 --> 00:21:49,373 Speaker 4: and of course ten thirty in the Caribbean is prime 378 00:21:49,453 --> 00:21:51,933 Speaker 4: time in India, so that was a problem because I 379 00:21:51,933 --> 00:21:54,013 Speaker 4: remember the very first game that the best Sydneys played 380 00:21:54,013 --> 00:21:57,333 Speaker 4: against Papua New Guinea. That was actually a ten to 381 00:21:57,493 --> 00:22:00,853 Speaker 4: thirty game. It was in Ghana, and there were very 382 00:22:00,893 --> 00:22:04,413 Speaker 4: few people who actually came to watch the game. So 383 00:22:04,453 --> 00:22:07,493 Speaker 4: the times were not good for us because that actually 384 00:22:07,533 --> 00:22:10,893 Speaker 4: start a T twenty match at thirty, You're going to 385 00:22:10,933 --> 00:22:12,693 Speaker 4: be home by one or two o'clock and you don't 386 00:22:12,733 --> 00:22:16,853 Speaker 4: really want so the timing was not good at all. 387 00:22:16,933 --> 00:22:20,093 Speaker 4: So that was a problem. But as you know, India 388 00:22:20,413 --> 00:22:23,213 Speaker 4: their rule of the world. We actually had the finals 389 00:22:23,573 --> 00:22:26,813 Speaker 4: on June to twenty ninth at ten thirty in the 390 00:22:26,853 --> 00:22:29,333 Speaker 4: morning in the boiling sun. You know, that was not 391 00:22:29,373 --> 00:22:31,613 Speaker 4: good at all and it was not a full host. 392 00:22:31,653 --> 00:22:34,933 Speaker 4: People complained bitterly about it, but in the finant nasays 393 00:22:35,013 --> 00:22:36,453 Speaker 4: it was a pretty good final. 394 00:22:36,733 --> 00:22:40,853 Speaker 2: Hey, good gradsy particularly from iverseas tourists from England and 395 00:22:41,453 --> 00:22:45,173 Speaker 2: such like. How about West Indian fans. Did I turn 396 00:22:45,293 --> 00:22:47,933 Speaker 2: up and were the happy with the why the team perform? 397 00:22:48,333 --> 00:22:50,973 Speaker 4: Well, you know, the West side East side is so 398 00:22:51,133 --> 00:22:54,213 Speaker 4: unpredictable now that we thank God for, as they say, 399 00:22:54,293 --> 00:22:58,813 Speaker 4: small mercies. We were in, you know, up against your 400 00:22:58,853 --> 00:23:01,973 Speaker 4: side in New Zealand and against Afghanistan, and there were 401 00:23:02,093 --> 00:23:04,053 Speaker 4: many people in the Caribbean who felt the West Seas 402 00:23:04,053 --> 00:23:06,733 Speaker 4: were not going to get in to the Super Eights. 403 00:23:06,773 --> 00:23:07,373 Speaker 3: They actually did. 404 00:23:07,413 --> 00:23:11,333 Speaker 4: They actually defeat Afghanistan and New Zealand and they were 405 00:23:11,373 --> 00:23:13,813 Speaker 4: able to make it and they had an excellent opportunity 406 00:23:13,893 --> 00:23:16,253 Speaker 4: to go to the semi finals and really messed it 407 00:23:16,333 --> 00:23:20,413 Speaker 4: up badly against the South Africa team. So I think 408 00:23:20,413 --> 00:23:23,853 Speaker 4: when you look back at it, to Gotdanova, New Zealand 409 00:23:23,853 --> 00:23:27,253 Speaker 4: and to Godanva Afghanistan was in itself an achievement for 410 00:23:27,293 --> 00:23:28,693 Speaker 4: the best Indy side. 411 00:23:28,653 --> 00:23:31,493 Speaker 2: Success for the Caribbean countries. Do you think that there 412 00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:35,093 Speaker 2: was a success in the United States as well? Do 413 00:23:35,173 --> 00:23:36,373 Speaker 2: you should have get that feeling? 414 00:23:37,453 --> 00:23:40,733 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, the dungsighted that was they had 415 00:23:40,813 --> 00:23:44,133 Speaker 4: dropping pitches and as you know, there were sixteen games 416 00:23:44,133 --> 00:23:47,773 Speaker 4: scheduled there and he sees there any season and there 417 00:23:47,773 --> 00:23:49,773 Speaker 4: were actually three games that were washed out, and it 418 00:23:49,853 --> 00:23:54,693 Speaker 4: actually caused some serious problems as far as Pakistan were concerned, 419 00:23:54,973 --> 00:23:57,413 Speaker 4: because one of the games that washed out meant that 420 00:23:57,453 --> 00:23:59,893 Speaker 4: the USA were able to go through to the Super Eights, 421 00:23:59,973 --> 00:24:03,773 Speaker 4: which would not have been in the cards. In the 422 00:24:03,813 --> 00:24:07,133 Speaker 4: States they had good crows only of course when India. 423 00:24:07,173 --> 00:24:10,013 Speaker 4: Of course, the Indian Pakistan game are a big, big game, 424 00:24:10,933 --> 00:24:13,253 Speaker 4: but generally I would say the Crows were just there 425 00:24:13,293 --> 00:24:13,773 Speaker 4: there both. 426 00:24:13,813 --> 00:24:14,813 Speaker 3: So weather was a. 427 00:24:14,773 --> 00:24:18,853 Speaker 4: Major concern and I know that in Florida we had 428 00:24:18,973 --> 00:24:22,093 Speaker 4: some decent crowds, but overall I would say the Crows 429 00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:22,973 Speaker 4: would have been just fair. 430 00:24:23,013 --> 00:24:26,653 Speaker 2: Only the Caribbean West Indian shide have been very successful 431 00:24:26,693 --> 00:24:29,773 Speaker 2: in the short form game. It's a big turnaround now 432 00:24:30,173 --> 00:24:32,413 Speaker 2: to put a test team together and I'll see it's 433 00:24:32,413 --> 00:24:35,333 Speaker 2: a test team of about seventeen or eighteen people judging 434 00:24:35,373 --> 00:24:38,813 Speaker 2: by the numbers there. They're off to play England. Totally 435 00:24:38,853 --> 00:24:43,053 Speaker 2: different challenge. How do you expect them to do with they. 436 00:24:43,853 --> 00:24:47,133 Speaker 4: Well, we haven't won in England since nineteen eighty eight, 437 00:24:47,173 --> 00:24:49,613 Speaker 4: so it's a big challenge for the West Indies side. 438 00:24:50,133 --> 00:24:51,973 Speaker 4: The last time we went to England, we won the 439 00:24:52,013 --> 00:24:55,853 Speaker 4: first tests and in the end England came from behind 440 00:24:56,013 --> 00:24:58,693 Speaker 4: and one to one, but when England came to the Caribbean, 441 00:24:58,773 --> 00:25:01,453 Speaker 4: we did in fact defeat England. It is going to 442 00:25:01,493 --> 00:25:05,053 Speaker 4: be a serious tests. They'll be inspired by the fact 443 00:25:05,053 --> 00:25:07,493 Speaker 4: that when the last went to Australia they were able 444 00:25:07,533 --> 00:25:11,133 Speaker 4: to draw that sea. But the site is in experience side. 445 00:25:11,133 --> 00:25:15,213 Speaker 4: In fact, we may have a new opener in Louis McCaskey. 446 00:25:15,293 --> 00:25:17,453 Speaker 4: These are names that are not really known to the 447 00:25:17,453 --> 00:25:20,893 Speaker 4: cricket in the world. You've got Atenez, a Dominican who's 448 00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:23,853 Speaker 4: trying to find his feet, so to speak. Mackenzie, a 449 00:25:24,173 --> 00:25:27,773 Speaker 4: good little left hander from Jamaica, is also in there. 450 00:25:28,093 --> 00:25:30,853 Speaker 4: Caravin Hodge has been wrong Caraban cricket for over ten 451 00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:34,573 Speaker 4: years now. So it isn't it an experience side up 452 00:25:34,613 --> 00:25:38,333 Speaker 4: against some top quality ball and Anderson is about to retire. 453 00:25:38,413 --> 00:25:40,573 Speaker 4: The ball is going to swing in England, and I 454 00:25:40,613 --> 00:25:44,373 Speaker 4: would imagine that the best Cindys could struggle. Now they've 455 00:25:44,373 --> 00:25:46,853 Speaker 4: got one or two very good cricketers. Of course, Jason 456 00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:50,173 Speaker 4: Holder after injury, is going to be an important cobb 457 00:25:50,213 --> 00:25:53,413 Speaker 4: in the wheel. Shamar Joseph, the man who did so 458 00:25:53,773 --> 00:25:56,573 Speaker 4: very well when we meant to Australia, he's in there 459 00:25:56,653 --> 00:25:59,733 Speaker 4: and now Zari Joseph the vice captain. He could be 460 00:25:59,813 --> 00:26:03,733 Speaker 4: a very important player for the West Cities. The problem, however, 461 00:26:03,893 --> 00:26:06,573 Speaker 4: is that we've lost Chemar Roach with all of his experience. 462 00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:09,573 Speaker 4: He had to be replaced by am Luis. So when 463 00:26:09,613 --> 00:26:12,013 Speaker 4: you look at the Westiny's team on Pepper is not 464 00:26:12,173 --> 00:26:15,853 Speaker 4: very strong, and to be honest with you, I expect 465 00:26:16,013 --> 00:26:18,693 Speaker 4: England to do very well against the West Cindy's in 466 00:26:18,733 --> 00:26:19,413 Speaker 4: that series. 467 00:26:19,933 --> 00:26:22,213 Speaker 2: When I look at the team that played in the 468 00:26:22,213 --> 00:26:25,893 Speaker 2: World T twenty, there's some very good players in that side, 469 00:26:25,893 --> 00:26:29,213 Speaker 2: and it seems they've chosen the short form rather the longer. 470 00:26:29,253 --> 00:26:35,453 Speaker 2: For my instant people like Boran and I'm also intrigued 471 00:26:35,933 --> 00:26:39,173 Speaker 2: in the left arm spinner Akil Hussein, who to my 472 00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:43,093 Speaker 2: mind looks to be a quality player. They don't seem 473 00:26:43,093 --> 00:26:48,173 Speaker 2: to come into contention for the West Indies Test squad. 474 00:26:48,373 --> 00:26:51,893 Speaker 4: Well, you're right, and you can certainly look at a 475 00:26:51,933 --> 00:26:54,733 Speaker 4: share hawk who went to England and made two hundreds. 476 00:26:55,133 --> 00:26:58,173 Speaker 4: And I thought that interested about Alara was saying he 477 00:26:58,213 --> 00:27:00,773 Speaker 4: doesn't think he's interested. The gays are looking at the 478 00:27:01,333 --> 00:27:05,173 Speaker 4: wait bar cricket. I mean it's pick money. In fact, 479 00:27:05,173 --> 00:27:07,013 Speaker 4: when you look back at one of the best splayers 480 00:27:07,013 --> 00:27:10,773 Speaker 4: we've had, Karen Pollard, never played a death natch for 481 00:27:10,853 --> 00:27:14,613 Speaker 4: the West Cindysoran is not interested in playing our red 482 00:27:14,653 --> 00:27:18,613 Speaker 4: ball cricket. Russell played just a couple. In fact, I 483 00:27:18,653 --> 00:27:22,173 Speaker 4: remember play Lloyd speaking to Russell and saying, look, you 484 00:27:22,213 --> 00:27:25,613 Speaker 4: are talented enough to play all formats. These guys are 485 00:27:25,813 --> 00:27:28,213 Speaker 4: very much involved in white ball cricket and that's the 486 00:27:28,253 --> 00:27:31,893 Speaker 4: problem that most of our top players do not want 487 00:27:31,893 --> 00:27:34,253 Speaker 4: to play red ball cricket. As I said, poor Ran 488 00:27:34,453 --> 00:27:37,733 Speaker 4: is not interested. You've got someone like a se Hope 489 00:27:37,773 --> 00:27:41,133 Speaker 4: who really is good enough to play with red ball cricket. 490 00:27:41,253 --> 00:27:43,693 Speaker 4: He's not interested at all, So that presents a big 491 00:27:43,693 --> 00:27:45,893 Speaker 4: problem for the West Cindy's. 492 00:27:45,973 --> 00:27:48,293 Speaker 2: One of the more consistent players. And I was quite 493 00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:50,893 Speaker 2: impressed because I haven't thought of his game as being 494 00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:54,773 Speaker 2: consistent enough. Was Alzari Joseph And he's been given a 495 00:27:54,813 --> 00:27:59,013 Speaker 2: sort of leadership the role, hasn't he within the short 496 00:27:59,053 --> 00:27:59,853 Speaker 2: form game anyway? 497 00:28:00,493 --> 00:28:02,893 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I think it's a good move. Given a 498 00:28:02,933 --> 00:28:06,173 Speaker 4: lot more responsibility. Remember he would have come on the 499 00:28:06,253 --> 00:28:09,213 Speaker 4: scene when the West Cindy's on a name team Team 500 00:28:09,413 --> 00:28:13,013 Speaker 4: one back in twenty sixteen. And ever since then has 501 00:28:13,053 --> 00:28:16,373 Speaker 4: been one that we've relied on. It is true that 502 00:28:16,413 --> 00:28:18,733 Speaker 4: when you look at his stats, maybe not as good 503 00:28:18,733 --> 00:28:20,893 Speaker 4: as you would like, but I think he's improving all 504 00:28:20,973 --> 00:28:23,413 Speaker 4: the time. He sharp Scotta gets to get his Lenster 505 00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:26,213 Speaker 4: intense a little bit short. But the cricket West City's 506 00:28:26,293 --> 00:28:30,413 Speaker 4: recognize the importance of given him that responsibility and he 507 00:28:30,693 --> 00:28:33,213 Speaker 4: looks a much better player and I expect him to 508 00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,893 Speaker 4: do well in England. He's got the pace, he does 509 00:28:35,893 --> 00:28:38,373 Speaker 4: a bit with the ball, and you can expect a 510 00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:40,573 Speaker 4: lot more from Alzari Joseph in the future. 511 00:28:40,893 --> 00:28:43,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got Maty who spends the ball and the 512 00:28:43,093 --> 00:28:45,013 Speaker 2: other guy that I mentioned, the kil Hussaying who to 513 00:28:45,013 --> 00:28:47,413 Speaker 2: my mind, I'm quite impressed with what he can do 514 00:28:47,453 --> 00:28:50,813 Speaker 2: with the ball. Nice flight, good nice. 515 00:28:51,253 --> 00:28:53,133 Speaker 4: But but again he doesn't want to play the red 516 00:28:53,173 --> 00:28:55,493 Speaker 4: ball cricket at all. You know, these fellas have been asked. 517 00:28:55,813 --> 00:28:59,213 Speaker 4: They prefer to play white ball cricket and that's sad 518 00:28:59,573 --> 00:29:03,253 Speaker 4: Moti can play in all formats. I don't expect him 519 00:29:03,293 --> 00:29:06,053 Speaker 4: to get in uh to the team because I think 520 00:29:06,133 --> 00:29:08,213 Speaker 4: that the best seams are going to be very concerned. 521 00:29:08,813 --> 00:29:12,933 Speaker 4: The first Test, Lauris starts on this coming Wednesday about 522 00:29:12,973 --> 00:29:14,973 Speaker 4: the bat and they want to at least have about 523 00:29:15,173 --> 00:29:19,053 Speaker 4: six batsmen and Jason Holder to be the Ronda, so 524 00:29:19,173 --> 00:29:22,933 Speaker 4: MultiMate and miss out. But he's a good cricketer. Of course, 525 00:29:23,253 --> 00:29:27,973 Speaker 4: Kevin Sinclair who made a half century against the Australian 526 00:29:28,773 --> 00:29:30,933 Speaker 4: team when we last played, they could very well get 527 00:29:30,973 --> 00:29:33,453 Speaker 4: into the site. So the contract of the West seem 528 00:29:33,493 --> 00:29:34,933 Speaker 4: is going to be very very interesting. 529 00:29:36,053 --> 00:29:39,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite interesting really because we've spoken about this before, 530 00:29:39,173 --> 00:29:42,453 Speaker 2: haven't we, in terms of the players who aren't available 531 00:29:42,493 --> 00:29:45,053 Speaker 2: for the West Indies, and you would have some quality 532 00:29:45,093 --> 00:29:48,453 Speaker 2: players who would be there if they were prepared to play. 533 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:51,093 Speaker 2: But of course they've got the Major League circus in 534 00:29:51,133 --> 00:29:54,613 Speaker 2: the United States which started this week, hasn't And I 535 00:29:54,613 --> 00:29:56,453 Speaker 2: suppose some of those players go to that. 536 00:29:57,333 --> 00:29:59,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're very very right. In fact, one he 537 00:30:00,493 --> 00:30:04,533 Speaker 4: two days ago, Roddy Sarwan, the former West Indy's batsman's 538 00:30:04,573 --> 00:30:09,613 Speaker 4: making the point that with the United States know in cricket, 539 00:30:09,853 --> 00:30:13,613 Speaker 4: is really going to really squeeze West in cricket, and 540 00:30:13,613 --> 00:30:16,973 Speaker 4: it's through they've got the money. A lot of Indians 541 00:30:16,973 --> 00:30:20,733 Speaker 4: lived there, of course, in Florida throat the United States, 542 00:30:20,973 --> 00:30:22,933 Speaker 4: so you're going to find know that a lot of 543 00:30:22,933 --> 00:30:25,613 Speaker 4: our players who would normally maybe play in the local 544 00:30:25,613 --> 00:30:28,893 Speaker 4: competition in Barbados first class cricket, they're going to be 545 00:30:29,453 --> 00:30:32,613 Speaker 4: in the United States. These fellows travel all around the 546 00:30:32,613 --> 00:30:35,493 Speaker 4: world to play, So we're not going to have going 547 00:30:35,533 --> 00:30:39,333 Speaker 4: forward a test team that is, I suppose is going 548 00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:41,653 Speaker 4: to challenge the United States. They've come on board, they've 549 00:30:41,653 --> 00:30:43,693 Speaker 4: got the money, and I think it's going to squeeze 550 00:30:44,013 --> 00:30:45,293 Speaker 4: West in this cricket even further. 551 00:30:46,533 --> 00:30:48,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, the same paralle that as of course you don't 552 00:30:48,533 --> 00:30:51,573 Speaker 2: have got nine people there. I think at the American 553 00:30:51,613 --> 00:30:54,573 Speaker 2: competition and our game is going the same way. Players 554 00:30:54,853 --> 00:30:58,573 Speaker 2: seem to be opting out of national contracts here and 555 00:30:58,853 --> 00:31:01,893 Speaker 2: they're taking the big money. You can understand it said 556 00:31:01,973 --> 00:31:05,133 Speaker 2: that that's just the way the game goes. Somebody mentioned 557 00:31:05,133 --> 00:31:08,453 Speaker 2: to me that the twenty competitions should all be about 558 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,093 Speaker 2: franchise cricket and not international, and I think there's a 559 00:31:12,173 --> 00:31:15,133 Speaker 2: valid point in that that they can have the World 560 00:31:15,213 --> 00:31:18,493 Speaker 2: Cup and World Tish Championship and have the T twitties. 561 00:31:18,573 --> 00:31:22,653 Speaker 2: Is franchise cricket rather than a World Tish or World 562 00:31:22,733 --> 00:31:24,773 Speaker 2: T twenty Championship seems a good idea. 563 00:31:25,573 --> 00:31:27,853 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I certainly agree with that. It's something that 564 00:31:27,893 --> 00:31:30,533 Speaker 4: I know that cricket wet Cindy's they would love to 565 00:31:30,573 --> 00:31:32,493 Speaker 4: see that. When you talk to a lot of the 566 00:31:32,533 --> 00:31:35,773 Speaker 4: former cricketers, they certainly believe in that. You'll be talked 567 00:31:35,813 --> 00:31:38,693 Speaker 4: to people like Andrew Robertsons, the Clave Lloyd. They're very 568 00:31:38,773 --> 00:31:41,893 Speaker 4: very worried. Yes, a lot of money I made in 569 00:31:41,973 --> 00:31:44,533 Speaker 4: T twenty cricket, but you know Michael Holden is not 570 00:31:44,573 --> 00:31:46,133 Speaker 4: interested at all. In fact, I know think he's ever 571 00:31:46,213 --> 00:31:49,133 Speaker 4: done a T twenty match. So while on one side 572 00:31:49,213 --> 00:31:52,253 Speaker 4: of the coin they're making a lot of money, it's 573 00:31:52,293 --> 00:31:56,053 Speaker 4: destroying the red ball cricket and that sis cricket. They've 574 00:31:56,093 --> 00:31:58,093 Speaker 4: taken a beat in and I believe this is one 575 00:31:58,093 --> 00:32:01,413 Speaker 4: of the reasons why we've not done well in international cricket, 576 00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:03,613 Speaker 4: let's say, in the last five to ten years. 577 00:32:04,413 --> 00:32:07,693 Speaker 2: A fair point there, my boy, Andrew, and thanks very 578 00:32:07,773 --> 00:32:12,013 Speaker 2: much for joining us once again, Andrew Mason from Barbados 579 00:32:12,693 --> 00:32:17,933 Speaker 2: and Jerius. What you're alluding to just previously the problems 580 00:32:17,973 --> 00:32:21,533 Speaker 2: that Andrew Mason sees about where the West Indies game 581 00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:23,813 Speaker 2: has gone in terms of their Test match cricket. Yes, 582 00:32:23,853 --> 00:32:28,453 Speaker 2: their short form game has been reasonably effective. They've been competitive, 583 00:32:29,213 --> 00:32:33,893 Speaker 2: but their Test game, and you will know that more 584 00:32:33,933 --> 00:32:38,213 Speaker 2: than many people, has gone backwards from what they were. 585 00:32:38,733 --> 00:32:43,173 Speaker 3: Yes, they're having to look, Brian now at their first 586 00:32:43,253 --> 00:32:50,133 Speaker 3: class players to supply their Test match players. Totally, aren't they. 587 00:32:50,533 --> 00:32:54,613 Speaker 3: I mean, you and I have We would look at 588 00:32:54,693 --> 00:32:57,813 Speaker 3: that squad that they've just selected to play against England 589 00:32:57,853 --> 00:33:03,333 Speaker 3: and three Test matches, we would recognize Craig Brathwaite's name, 590 00:33:04,253 --> 00:33:07,973 Speaker 3: and Jason Holder's name, and perhaps Joshua De Silva the 591 00:33:08,013 --> 00:33:11,933 Speaker 3: wicket keeper, and then some of the bowlers. But the 592 00:33:12,053 --> 00:33:17,733 Speaker 3: other batsmen, I've got to confess, haven't. I haven't followed 593 00:33:17,733 --> 00:33:24,373 Speaker 3: them at all. Alec Athanasikerk McKenzie, Mikyle Lewis and his 594 00:33:24,453 --> 00:33:29,773 Speaker 3: older brother Jeremiah Lewis, Cavim Hodge, Kevin Sinclair, you know, 595 00:33:29,813 --> 00:33:35,533 Speaker 3: tavim Imla. Look, I don't know those names really at all. 596 00:33:36,373 --> 00:33:39,413 Speaker 3: And in fact, six of the top sort of seven 597 00:33:39,493 --> 00:33:43,093 Speaker 3: batsmen that they've chosen on the tour have only played 598 00:33:43,133 --> 00:33:48,693 Speaker 3: ten Tests. And so I think that together with the 599 00:33:49,693 --> 00:33:54,733 Speaker 3: moving ball in England, with the Duke's ball swing and scene, 600 00:33:55,613 --> 00:33:58,133 Speaker 3: that's going to be the difficulty for the West and 601 00:33:58,373 --> 00:34:03,373 Speaker 3: is Ken ten. Their batsmen, they're young batsmen and most 602 00:34:03,373 --> 00:34:06,653 Speaker 3: of them are in their twenties. There are Cavim Hodges 603 00:34:06,693 --> 00:34:11,733 Speaker 3: thirty one. He's a bit more experience. But can their 604 00:34:11,773 --> 00:34:16,613 Speaker 3: young players get enough runs to allow their bowlers, you know, 605 00:34:17,333 --> 00:34:19,573 Speaker 3: something to work with, you know, something to aim at 606 00:34:20,533 --> 00:34:24,093 Speaker 3: if they can. The trouble about it is having good bowlers. 607 00:34:24,173 --> 00:34:27,613 Speaker 3: And they've got you know, Alzari Joseph. We saw him 608 00:34:27,653 --> 00:34:30,693 Speaker 3: in the T twenties. He had a good T twenty series, 609 00:34:30,733 --> 00:34:35,093 Speaker 3: didn't he. But they've also got of course, and he's 610 00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:37,533 Speaker 3: got to be really the one who does it, I think. 611 00:34:39,373 --> 00:34:42,373 Speaker 3: But they've got Shama Joseph, we know, but he's only 612 00:34:42,373 --> 00:34:46,653 Speaker 3: played seven first class matches and two of those are Tests, 613 00:34:47,413 --> 00:34:49,333 Speaker 3: so he hasn't played much. I don't think he can 614 00:34:49,413 --> 00:34:54,173 Speaker 3: expect him to run through the English batting all the time. 615 00:34:55,573 --> 00:34:58,573 Speaker 3: That Jaden Seals has been playing a bit, he's come 616 00:34:58,613 --> 00:35:04,733 Speaker 3: into the side. He's been playing at Sussex and has 617 00:35:04,733 --> 00:35:07,853 Speaker 3: been doing okay. Another they're all right armors and then 618 00:35:07,893 --> 00:35:11,333 Speaker 3: of course you've got Jason Holder as well. More medium 619 00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:15,373 Speaker 3: pace now I think than medium fast. But Paul of course, 620 00:35:15,413 --> 00:35:19,253 Speaker 3: so he gets bound. So that's the area of their 621 00:35:19,733 --> 00:35:25,253 Speaker 3: squad that they look stronger at. But of course if 622 00:35:25,293 --> 00:35:28,493 Speaker 3: it's moving for them, then it's going to be moving 623 00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:31,773 Speaker 3: for the English bilers as well, so their batting is 624 00:35:31,853 --> 00:35:34,133 Speaker 3: going to be tested so much more. 625 00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:37,053 Speaker 2: The one name I forgot to speak to Andrew about 626 00:35:37,133 --> 00:35:40,333 Speaker 2: was the young Chanderpaul. He doesn't seem to be in 627 00:35:40,373 --> 00:35:42,453 Speaker 2: their list at the moment, so be interesting to see 628 00:35:42,613 --> 00:35:46,693 Speaker 2: what's happening to his game. Well that's where their future. 629 00:35:46,773 --> 00:35:50,573 Speaker 2: No runs, yeah, that's probably right. Yeah, no runs. 630 00:35:50,613 --> 00:35:54,893 Speaker 3: Got thirty thirty runs when he played in the Australian series, 631 00:35:56,413 --> 00:35:58,213 Speaker 3: which was a bit unfortunate. Then he's had a bit 632 00:35:58,213 --> 00:36:03,533 Speaker 3: of a lean time in the first class and over 633 00:36:03,533 --> 00:36:06,533 Speaker 3: in the Western is But looking at those pictures, Wedds, 634 00:36:06,533 --> 00:36:08,853 Speaker 3: I don't know what you thought, but criikee, you could 635 00:36:08,893 --> 00:36:11,973 Speaker 3: understand a lean time for an opener, couldn't you? And 636 00:36:13,133 --> 00:36:15,013 Speaker 3: I would have thought you might have stuck with him. 637 00:36:15,693 --> 00:36:18,173 Speaker 3: They're probably going to open with the chap who hasn't 638 00:36:18,213 --> 00:36:22,053 Speaker 3: played a tests so far, Mikayl Lewis, who got a 639 00:36:22,053 --> 00:36:25,093 Speaker 3: few run six hundred and eighty runs at forty eight, 640 00:36:26,693 --> 00:36:30,733 Speaker 3: but he's twenty three, hasn't played at all it's an 641 00:36:30,733 --> 00:36:35,693 Speaker 3: interesting selection. The other one was Keemar Roach because he's 642 00:36:36,973 --> 00:36:40,813 Speaker 3: he's been over playing, you know, at Surrey for about 643 00:36:40,813 --> 00:36:44,413 Speaker 3: five or six seasons now at least, and he knows 644 00:36:44,493 --> 00:36:49,453 Speaker 3: English conditions and at his worst he can hold a 645 00:36:49,533 --> 00:36:53,653 Speaker 3: holding job for his team. But if it moves as well, 646 00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:56,653 Speaker 3: then he's very much in the game. So they won't 647 00:36:56,653 --> 00:36:58,813 Speaker 3: have him with them at all. I think he's got 648 00:36:58,813 --> 00:37:00,093 Speaker 3: a bit of an injury as well. 649 00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:05,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gone home from his Surrey contract and he 650 00:37:05,053 --> 00:37:07,813 Speaker 2: would be important in terms of experience within that West 651 00:37:07,813 --> 00:37:11,373 Speaker 2: Indian Yeah, what's England going to look like without Broad 652 00:37:11,533 --> 00:37:15,173 Speaker 2: and Anderson? Jimmy Anderson's been named in the Test eleven four, 653 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:19,213 Speaker 2: the first Test, but there's no Broad of course, he 654 00:37:19,293 --> 00:37:25,013 Speaker 2: retired last season. But there is Gus Atkinson. He is 655 00:37:25,733 --> 00:37:30,653 Speaker 2: the new paceman. They've got Chris Wokes experience and Bash. 656 00:37:31,053 --> 00:37:35,573 Speaker 2: There's an element of, you know, lack of experience in 657 00:37:35,973 --> 00:37:37,773 Speaker 2: some of their bowling to some extent, isn't it. 658 00:37:38,773 --> 00:37:41,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's a little bit like you know, the 659 00:37:41,533 --> 00:37:44,413 Speaker 3: Bolt Saudi situation, isn't it. As soon as they go 660 00:37:46,493 --> 00:37:49,413 Speaker 3: there is a period of transition and you've got to 661 00:37:49,773 --> 00:37:54,173 Speaker 3: make decent selections and hope that things go well. Yeah 662 00:37:54,933 --> 00:38:00,173 Speaker 3: Atkinson Surrey again a slightly quicker bowler. Ollie Robinson no 663 00:38:00,253 --> 00:38:04,013 Speaker 3: place for him, he's out now. And Chris Wokes you mentioned, 664 00:38:04,013 --> 00:38:06,533 Speaker 3: well he's good in England, isn't he. He's also a 665 00:38:06,653 --> 00:38:10,653 Speaker 3: very handy number eight. He's got a test hundred at 666 00:38:10,693 --> 00:38:14,933 Speaker 3: Lord's and Jimmy Anderson, well, of course it'll you know, 667 00:38:15,053 --> 00:38:19,853 Speaker 3: Lords will be a wash with tears. They're very emotional. 668 00:38:20,253 --> 00:38:23,173 Speaker 3: They're very emotional over there, but they're going to go 669 00:38:23,693 --> 00:38:26,613 Speaker 3: in with three and one. I would have sought Wokes, 670 00:38:26,653 --> 00:38:30,653 Speaker 3: Atkinson and Jimmy Anderson and the one being showed Basha 671 00:38:30,773 --> 00:38:35,733 Speaker 3: the tall right arm off spinner gets a bit of bounce, yeah, 672 00:38:35,773 --> 00:38:37,973 Speaker 3: and Ben Stokes to come in as well. That's right, 673 00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:41,013 Speaker 3: So that will be their bowling attack, I would think. 674 00:38:41,013 --> 00:38:44,293 Speaker 3: And you've got Jamie Smith taking the gloves from folks, 675 00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:46,893 Speaker 3: which you and I discussed last week. We thought that 676 00:38:46,973 --> 00:38:50,493 Speaker 3: was a bit a bit tough, mainly mainly because I 677 00:38:50,533 --> 00:38:53,733 Speaker 3: think you and I feel a keeper is so important 678 00:38:54,573 --> 00:38:59,933 Speaker 3: and you know, if you're a bowler, you want your 679 00:39:00,053 --> 00:39:02,453 Speaker 3: you want your mix to be held, don't you, And 680 00:39:03,013 --> 00:39:06,493 Speaker 3: your first slip can go a bit wider because he said, no, no, 681 00:39:06,573 --> 00:39:08,973 Speaker 3: I can cover that. I've got that, And so you 682 00:39:09,093 --> 00:39:11,693 Speaker 3: cover more area and perhaps your third slip takes a 683 00:39:11,813 --> 00:39:15,253 Speaker 3: catch because your first you know, your first is a 684 00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:18,853 Speaker 3: bit wider, so you cover more territory because the keeper can. 685 00:39:19,693 --> 00:39:26,653 Speaker 3: So yeah, Jimmy Anderson's last test. Look, I longevity is 686 00:39:26,693 --> 00:39:27,373 Speaker 3: the thing, isn't it. 687 00:39:27,373 --> 00:39:27,453 Speaker 2: On? 688 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:34,733 Speaker 3: It's really forty one? Yeah, yeah, staying fit. He hasn't 689 00:39:34,773 --> 00:39:37,373 Speaker 3: been an out and out genuine fast bowler for a 690 00:39:37,413 --> 00:39:40,893 Speaker 3: long time now. He's a seaman swing bowler, was quick 691 00:39:40,933 --> 00:39:45,493 Speaker 3: early on. But it's just that control, isn't it. And 692 00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:49,893 Speaker 3: that's what Hadley had headles just they both have that 693 00:39:50,333 --> 00:39:55,933 Speaker 3: absolute precision of length. Control of length. It's always awkward. 694 00:39:56,053 --> 00:39:58,773 Speaker 3: Shall I go forward? Shall I go back? Then it 695 00:39:58,853 --> 00:40:03,053 Speaker 3: moves from where it pictures. So yeah, a terrific player. 696 00:40:05,093 --> 00:40:07,253 Speaker 3: I wonder whether people will look at him and say, look, 697 00:40:07,253 --> 00:40:09,453 Speaker 3: maybe I'll play a but longer. Well, Soudi does. I'm 698 00:40:09,493 --> 00:40:12,893 Speaker 3: sure he keeps on. He keeps on quoting him looking 699 00:40:12,973 --> 00:40:17,453 Speaker 3: old Jimmy over there. So so, but it's a little 700 00:40:17,493 --> 00:40:19,253 Speaker 3: bit like us in New Zealand too, isn't it? With 701 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:22,213 Speaker 3: no bolt now and Saudi dropping a wee bit and 702 00:40:22,253 --> 00:40:25,013 Speaker 3: pace and wickets. You know, we are going to have 703 00:40:25,053 --> 00:40:27,293 Speaker 3: to confront this as well, and that's why you've brought 704 00:40:27,373 --> 00:40:30,733 Speaker 3: up the contracts. You know, we recognize it and we've 705 00:40:30,773 --> 00:40:31,373 Speaker 3: got to move on. 706 00:40:32,493 --> 00:40:34,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll be able to assess that on our 707 00:40:34,893 --> 00:40:40,653 Speaker 2: program next week because that Test match is right on 708 00:40:41,173 --> 00:40:44,173 Speaker 2: the doorstep now and ready to play, and we'll be 709 00:40:44,453 --> 00:40:47,893 Speaker 2: watching very closely, particularly the England players because I said 710 00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:52,493 Speaker 2: they're going to be out here playing very shortly. So 711 00:40:52,973 --> 00:40:56,773 Speaker 2: hopefully jac will get a chance to watch this series 712 00:40:56,813 --> 00:41:00,333 Speaker 2: on television. I've been searching to find a television outlet 713 00:41:00,373 --> 00:41:02,773 Speaker 2: that's going to be playing it, and they normally do, 714 00:41:02,893 --> 00:41:04,973 Speaker 2: but I can't find. I don't know whether you know 715 00:41:05,013 --> 00:41:05,893 Speaker 2: any more about it than me. 716 00:41:07,093 --> 00:41:09,213 Speaker 3: No, I always ring you watch, don't I? 717 00:41:11,653 --> 00:41:14,613 Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll have to do some. 718 00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:21,773 Speaker 3: I hope it's on TV and Z Plus. Actually, I've 719 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,733 Speaker 3: been interested in the football. I've been interested watching football 720 00:41:24,773 --> 00:41:26,973 Speaker 3: Stain one this morning against France, which I was quite 721 00:41:27,013 --> 00:41:31,853 Speaker 3: pleased about, and so that that's good. They're through to 722 00:41:31,893 --> 00:41:34,373 Speaker 3: the finals, which I like. And of course I can 723 00:41:34,413 --> 00:41:39,053 Speaker 3: see Lulu, our Lulu from Tian now. Uh she she 724 00:41:39,093 --> 00:41:41,173 Speaker 3: didn't get through, but she my word, what a good 725 00:41:41,213 --> 00:41:41,813 Speaker 3: run for her. 726 00:41:42,453 --> 00:41:45,173 Speaker 2: Oh thank god for public broadcasting. 727 00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:48,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right. 728 00:41:48,453 --> 00:41:52,733 Speaker 2: I love it. I'll go. Yeah, I'll see if we 729 00:41:52,733 --> 00:41:55,413 Speaker 2: can get the Test cricket for you. Never mind, join 730 00:41:55,493 --> 00:41:58,693 Speaker 2: us next week. We'll be able to discuss from any 731 00:41:58,773 --> 00:42:02,253 Speaker 2: viewpoint what has happened in the first Test between the 732 00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:07,493 Speaker 2: West Indies and England. Stunts at Lord's look forward to 733 00:42:07,893 --> 00:42:15,573 Speaker 2: Thanks to you, kid, it is what's the waderful some do? 734 00:42:20,533 --> 00:42:23,133 Speaker 1: For more from news Talks at b Listen live on 735 00:42:23,253 --> 00:42:26,213 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 736 00:42:26,293 --> 00:42:28,853 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.