1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: Another chapter on the East scooter battle. Beam is being 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: booted out of Auckland. Wellington are investigating. This is after 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Australian media reports that she does the company snuck more 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: scooters in to various cities than their license allowed. Auckland 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Council's Manager of Licensing and Environmental Health, meourburn Chetty, is 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: with us on this Merburne morning to you. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike. 8 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: If it hadn't been for the Australian media, would you 9 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: ever have known? 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 2: Yes, Mike, we got. There was a blower complaint early 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: in August, Mike, and we did. We started some investigations 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: immediately and the a blow complaint included copies of Beam's 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 2: internal comms which demonstrated the clear intent to provide misleading 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: information to counsel. So they're crocs, well it was the 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: information provided was misleading and inaccurate Mike, right. 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: So that's against the relationship you have with them. They're 17 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: supposed to give you open, honest, detailed data that isn't 18 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: made up. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: Yes, we've got our license. We should be with a 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 2: license and our other praactice as well, with range of conditions, 21 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 2: and one of those conditions is adhering to the east 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: gutter caps in Auckland. There's different areas of the city 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: in order to protect public safety and reduce nuisance, and 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 2: all our perators are supposed to comply with those caps 25 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: and they've deliberately exceeded those caps and did not provide 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: that information to counsel. 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: They've said sorry. Have they said sorry because they mean 28 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: it or because they've been caught? 29 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's for Beamed to respond, Mike. They've apologized, 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: but from the seriousness of the issues we found, there's 31 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: no way that we can continue with the relationship with 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: Beam and we are we will be referring the matter 33 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 2: to the police for investigations. 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: Well do you know if Wellington are going to find 35 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: the same thing, or anywhere in Australia is going to 36 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: find the same thing, or that's out of your wheelhouse, 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: it's out. 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: Of our real last we are we have been in 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: contact with some of these councils, might be at different 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 2: stages of the investigation, so am aware of their decision 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: making process that Auckland. 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: As a city in the east scooter Department of somebody 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: else going to step in and fill the gap or. 44 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean definitely the users of East scooters 45 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: in Auckland will be disappointed by the news. We're currently 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: exploring options might to fill the gap. We are reviewing 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: new license applications. We will try to give that process 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: completed as soon as possible so that we have the 49 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 2: full complement of EA scooters back in Aucklands. 50 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: What's the vibe on the scooters in general, because there's 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: really a fascinating article the other day about all the 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: places around the world that have done all sorts of 53 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: different things around rules and regulations in totality, are they 54 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: worth the hassle? 55 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: Ah, that's a really interesting question. In terms of Auckland, 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 2: the trips per day and the usage is pretty I 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: it's it's significantly. It's significant, especially in the mornings and evenings, 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: the last mile and first mile. So it has proved 59 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: contributing to to the Auckland transport network in terms of 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 2: the scale and extent. That's something that probably something bigger 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: assessment needs to be done. 62 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: Mike, right, I read this morning and this is my 63 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: apologies for not having better There's a three wheel operator 64 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: who can run the thing remotely and park it. Do 65 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: you know about them? 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: Yes? 67 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: I know. 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 2: That's that's an operator that we've just issued a license 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: for to operate in some of the suburbs in Auckland. 70 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: But in terms of the remote remote function, that's been 71 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 2: declared not compliant by NZTA. 72 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: Right, So that would you be happy with them if 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't for the n ZTA because that remote things 74 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: seem to work. In other words, you get them off 75 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: the footpath, stop blocking places and they can actually park 76 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: them up. That seems a good thing to me. 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, in theory it seems good. But whether the 78 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: pedestrians and basireas it may be, it may be you know, 79 00:03:55,240 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: a problematic, It might be running trying to us something 80 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: that's really you know, recently been introduced. So we were 81 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: still going to have a look at it, and part 82 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: of it is uh, you know, getting out there in 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: the suburbs to have a look. But in the TA 84 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I declared that that function is not compliant, so we've 85 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: had to ask our provider to turn that function off. 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay, Mervin, appreciate your insight very much, Moburn Chittie. I 87 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: enjoyed that way more than I was anticipating as I 88 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: as I started that interview on bloody excuse anyway, how 89 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: about be may out of Singapore, straight to the police. 90 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 91 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 92 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.