1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:34,053 Speaker 1: from News Talks at b We're mixing things up this 3 00:00:34,053 --> 00:00:38,333 Speaker 1: morning on news Talks ABE. We wouldn't usually play the Prodigy. 4 00:00:38,733 --> 00:00:41,533 Speaker 2: Not before ten anyway, but of course the Prodigy are 5 00:00:41,573 --> 00:00:44,973 Speaker 2: playing Electric av this weekend in christ Church two day 6 00:00:45,013 --> 00:00:47,613 Speaker 2: Festival and it's really just gone from strength to strength 7 00:00:47,613 --> 00:00:50,253 Speaker 2: Electric Avs. So before before mid day to day we're 8 00:00:50,253 --> 00:00:51,973 Speaker 2: going to take you live there get a bit of 9 00:00:51,973 --> 00:00:53,493 Speaker 2: a take from our man on the ground as to 10 00:00:53,493 --> 00:00:56,013 Speaker 2: how it's all gone down so far. Here amazing, amazing 11 00:00:56,013 --> 00:00:59,653 Speaker 2: line up, the Prodigy, the Kook's playing, it's Electric av 12 00:00:59,773 --> 00:01:01,693 Speaker 2: as well, So we're going to get the full rundown 13 00:01:01,773 --> 00:01:06,293 Speaker 2: on Australasia's biggest FESTI before twelve o'clock right now, those 14 00:01:06,373 --> 00:01:08,053 Speaker 2: time to get your movie picks for this weekend. And 15 00:01:08,093 --> 00:01:10,853 Speaker 2: Francisca rad Can, our movie reviewer, is here with us 16 00:01:10,853 --> 00:01:11,333 Speaker 2: this morning. 17 00:01:11,373 --> 00:01:11,733 Speaker 1: Killeda. 18 00:01:12,613 --> 00:01:15,493 Speaker 3: Oh good morning Jack, And just like everybody else, I 19 00:01:15,613 --> 00:01:17,173 Speaker 3: just want to say congratulations to you. 20 00:01:17,213 --> 00:01:19,373 Speaker 4: It's very exciting to hear about the new addition to 21 00:01:19,413 --> 00:01:19,893 Speaker 4: your family. 22 00:01:19,973 --> 00:01:20,973 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. 23 00:01:21,013 --> 00:01:24,093 Speaker 2: It's very kind yep, and I'm sure you will understand 24 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 2: if I'm slurring my words this morning, and. 25 00:01:26,373 --> 00:01:29,133 Speaker 1: It's just a little just a little bit. It's one 26 00:01:29,173 --> 00:01:30,053 Speaker 1: of those kind of weeks. 27 00:01:30,173 --> 00:01:32,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely understand, and I'm just really strolled that 28 00:01:32,493 --> 00:01:34,973 Speaker 3: we had some good news because the two films that 29 00:01:35,013 --> 00:01:38,413 Speaker 3: I had picked to talk about today are definitely very 30 00:01:38,453 --> 00:01:39,733 Speaker 3: confronting films that. 31 00:01:39,733 --> 00:01:43,053 Speaker 4: Really sort of face the worst about humanity. 32 00:01:43,133 --> 00:01:44,813 Speaker 3: So I'm glad that you're able to give us some 33 00:01:44,853 --> 00:01:48,453 Speaker 3: good news while I then kind of get quite somebody gritty. 34 00:01:48,853 --> 00:01:53,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, Gretty's Yeah, I know you said, you go, as I. 35 00:01:53,613 --> 00:01:55,533 Speaker 3: Said, just before we launch into them, I just want 36 00:01:55,533 --> 00:01:57,373 Speaker 3: to say, of course, the oscars are coming up on 37 00:01:57,453 --> 00:01:58,253 Speaker 3: the third of March. 38 00:01:58,773 --> 00:02:01,773 Speaker 4: Doc Play, which is a streaming service, this week. 39 00:02:01,533 --> 00:02:03,773 Speaker 3: On the twenty fourth of February, they're actually going to 40 00:02:03,813 --> 00:02:08,333 Speaker 3: be screening or at least three of the Oscar nominated 41 00:02:08,413 --> 00:02:11,373 Speaker 3: documentary so that's Black Box Diaries, No Other Land and 42 00:02:11,493 --> 00:02:14,173 Speaker 3: soundtrack to the Crudit Hr There's They've also got a 43 00:02:14,213 --> 00:02:17,693 Speaker 3: couple of other films on there which were shortlisted for 44 00:02:17,773 --> 00:02:20,413 Speaker 3: Best Documentary as well, the Biby Files and things, so 45 00:02:20,413 --> 00:02:22,453 Speaker 3: there's a lot of really great material on there if 46 00:02:22,493 --> 00:02:25,013 Speaker 3: you like the documentaries. This week is a week to 47 00:02:25,093 --> 00:02:25,653 Speaker 3: head to doc. 48 00:02:25,533 --> 00:02:26,333 Speaker 4: Play and check it out. 49 00:02:26,413 --> 00:02:27,733 Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's a really good typic. 50 00:02:27,893 --> 00:02:30,613 Speaker 2: I love to search out the Oscar Nomino docks because 51 00:02:30,653 --> 00:02:32,493 Speaker 2: you know, I always I always think, you know, you 52 00:02:32,493 --> 00:02:34,093 Speaker 2: can never get through all of the Oscar films, so 53 00:02:34,133 --> 00:02:35,893 Speaker 2: you probably can for Tosca, but I can never get 54 00:02:35,933 --> 00:02:38,813 Speaker 2: through them all. But I always prioritize the documentary because 55 00:02:38,813 --> 00:02:41,733 Speaker 2: they are amazing. Although, as you say, these two sound 56 00:02:41,773 --> 00:02:43,973 Speaker 2: pretty pretty gritty and confronting, so let's have a listen 57 00:02:44,013 --> 00:02:55,613 Speaker 2: to the first one. This is no other Land thousand 58 00:02:55,653 --> 00:02:59,813 Speaker 2: Palestinians least one of the single biggest expulsion decisions since 59 00:02:59,853 --> 00:03:07,333 Speaker 2: me is really occupation of the Paratinian territories began. Okay, 60 00:03:07,373 --> 00:03:10,293 Speaker 2: that's no other Land. And yes, as the trailer suggest, 61 00:03:10,373 --> 00:03:12,133 Speaker 2: this is fairly topical at the moment. 62 00:03:12,653 --> 00:03:13,133 Speaker 4: It is. 63 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:15,453 Speaker 3: And look, it's no surprise that this film has ended 64 00:03:15,533 --> 00:03:19,013 Speaker 3: up on the Oscarlist, nominated for Best Documentary. It has 65 00:03:19,013 --> 00:03:21,653 Speaker 3: been winning awards all around the world at all the 66 00:03:21,693 --> 00:03:25,653 Speaker 3: major film festivals. It cannot, for probably political reasons, get 67 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:29,373 Speaker 3: a distributor distributor in the US. 68 00:03:29,413 --> 00:03:32,373 Speaker 4: But I think that that will probably change soon. 69 00:03:33,213 --> 00:03:36,693 Speaker 3: This is a film made by a Palestinian Israeli collective. 70 00:03:37,453 --> 00:03:42,373 Speaker 3: So it's led by Palestinian filmmaker Basil Adra, and he's 71 00:03:42,413 --> 00:03:45,773 Speaker 3: from the West Bank. He's an activist and he's also 72 00:03:45,813 --> 00:03:48,453 Speaker 3: a lawyer. He's young, he's about twenty eight years old now, 73 00:03:48,493 --> 00:03:52,973 Speaker 3: but he has been filming what has been happening in 74 00:03:53,133 --> 00:03:57,973 Speaker 3: his area, for in Mussafa Yata since he was a 75 00:03:58,053 --> 00:04:00,093 Speaker 3: young boy, since he was a teenager. His parents were 76 00:04:00,093 --> 00:04:01,893 Speaker 3: also activists. 77 00:04:02,213 --> 00:04:08,093 Speaker 4: He is joined by an Israeli journalist, Yuval Abraham, and 78 00:04:08,093 --> 00:04:10,173 Speaker 4: then there's a couple of other people involved. 79 00:04:10,173 --> 00:04:13,093 Speaker 3: But these two are not only kind of directing and 80 00:04:13,133 --> 00:04:15,733 Speaker 3: producing this film, they also are kind of they star 81 00:04:15,853 --> 00:04:16,413 Speaker 3: in it as well. 82 00:04:16,453 --> 00:04:19,213 Speaker 4: We follow them on their journey and it captures this 83 00:04:19,373 --> 00:04:21,533 Speaker 4: slow distraction of the occupied. 84 00:04:22,293 --> 00:04:27,733 Speaker 3: West Bank area region of Masafayata. And look, they have 85 00:04:27,893 --> 00:04:32,973 Speaker 3: been fighting since the nineteen eighties to remain on the land, 86 00:04:33,053 --> 00:04:38,573 Speaker 3: the Palestinians who live there. They the Israelis want to 87 00:04:38,573 --> 00:04:42,293 Speaker 3: turn it into a military training zone, and they've been 88 00:04:42,333 --> 00:04:44,013 Speaker 3: able to sort of go to the courts and. 89 00:04:43,933 --> 00:04:46,733 Speaker 4: Prevent things happening and things. But then pretty much since. 90 00:04:46,573 --> 00:04:52,453 Speaker 3: Twenty twenty, the Israeli authorities argued that the Palestinian communities 91 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:55,653 Speaker 3: had not been permanent residents to the area, and they 92 00:04:55,653 --> 00:04:57,333 Speaker 3: didn't have the right to live there. So they then 93 00:04:57,413 --> 00:05:00,413 Speaker 3: began sort of in twenty twenty two, going in and 94 00:05:00,493 --> 00:05:05,373 Speaker 3: just destroying people's bulldozing people's homes, cutting off the water, 95 00:05:05,493 --> 00:05:08,773 Speaker 3: the electricity, and so you see these people, you see 96 00:05:08,813 --> 00:05:13,093 Speaker 3: this all happening. So it's an emotional film without trying 97 00:05:13,093 --> 00:05:16,053 Speaker 3: to be emotionally manipulative, if you mean, because they're literally 98 00:05:16,133 --> 00:05:18,733 Speaker 3: just standing there film and what happens and how it's 99 00:05:18,773 --> 00:05:21,693 Speaker 3: all unfolding, and the way everybody's treated and the angst 100 00:05:21,693 --> 00:05:25,693 Speaker 3: and the emotion around it. It is really heartbreaking because 101 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:28,053 Speaker 3: there doesn't seem to be any solution or any hope. 102 00:05:28,053 --> 00:05:31,453 Speaker 3: And that's what you really get from these two filmmakers 103 00:05:31,773 --> 00:05:34,413 Speaker 3: and as they capture. 104 00:05:34,013 --> 00:05:36,893 Speaker 4: All this in real time. 105 00:05:37,053 --> 00:05:39,933 Speaker 3: And what's also really interesting is the relationship between the 106 00:05:39,933 --> 00:05:41,653 Speaker 3: two of them, which also gives you a bit of 107 00:05:41,693 --> 00:05:44,973 Speaker 3: an understanding about this area and what it is like 108 00:05:45,053 --> 00:05:50,093 Speaker 3: to live there. So of course Buzzle he is from 109 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:52,973 Speaker 3: this area. He went to university, he got a law degree. 110 00:05:53,053 --> 00:05:55,613 Speaker 3: There are no jobs in the West Bank. He can 111 00:05:55,653 --> 00:05:58,653 Speaker 3: only work in construction. He can't leave the area. He 112 00:05:58,773 --> 00:06:03,013 Speaker 3: is under military law. Whereas Yuval who comes from Jerusalem 113 00:06:03,093 --> 00:06:05,853 Speaker 3: to film and write stories and work with him on 114 00:06:05,893 --> 00:06:10,213 Speaker 3: this project. He is free to go wherever he wants 115 00:06:10,693 --> 00:06:11,413 Speaker 3: civilian law. 116 00:06:11,573 --> 00:06:14,693 Speaker 4: So there's this really great contrast between the two of them. 117 00:06:14,733 --> 00:06:17,213 Speaker 3: There's two young men about the same age, and the 118 00:06:17,253 --> 00:06:20,493 Speaker 3: different lives that they're able and not able to live 119 00:06:20,813 --> 00:06:23,613 Speaker 3: is also kind of made quite transparent in the story. 120 00:06:23,693 --> 00:06:23,933 Speaker 1: Right. 121 00:06:24,013 --> 00:06:26,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds really interesting and like you say, really 122 00:06:26,813 --> 00:06:29,733 Speaker 2: confronting as well. But yeah, it's going to be interesting 123 00:06:29,773 --> 00:06:32,173 Speaker 2: to see, given the kind of politics around it, how 124 00:06:32,213 --> 00:06:34,693 Speaker 2: that does at the OSCARS. Given it can't even get 125 00:06:34,733 --> 00:06:37,213 Speaker 2: a distributor in the US, so that's no other land 126 00:06:38,493 --> 00:06:42,133 Speaker 2: and mixed up another documentary nominated for an oscar in 127 00:06:42,173 --> 00:06:44,013 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks time. Let's you listen to Black 128 00:06:44,093 --> 00:06:45,053 Speaker 2: Box Diaries. 129 00:06:45,493 --> 00:06:47,613 Speaker 4: I have to talk about what. 130 00:06:49,493 --> 00:06:52,133 Speaker 2: I'm scared, but all I want to do is talk 131 00:06:52,173 --> 00:06:52,853 Speaker 2: about the truth. 132 00:06:55,173 --> 00:06:59,853 Speaker 3: Many people already witness what kind of negative reaction I've got. 133 00:07:01,653 --> 00:07:05,093 Speaker 4: Or just a systems not origin. Without these recordings, no 134 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:06,533 Speaker 4: one would believe what I heard. 135 00:07:08,813 --> 00:07:11,413 Speaker 1: Okay, that's black Box Diaries tell us about it. Francisca. 136 00:07:12,093 --> 00:07:14,813 Speaker 3: Yes, so this is also a documentary which has sort 137 00:07:14,813 --> 00:07:17,133 Speaker 3: of been years in the making as well. This is 138 00:07:17,173 --> 00:07:19,573 Speaker 3: a story of the Japanese journalist who investigates her own 139 00:07:19,613 --> 00:07:22,133 Speaker 3: sexual assault and an attempt to sort of modernize some 140 00:07:22,213 --> 00:07:27,853 Speaker 3: quite antiquated sexual assault laws in Japan. She already it 141 00:07:28,373 --> 00:07:30,533 Speaker 3: directs and is the face of this film. Is this 142 00:07:30,653 --> 00:07:35,693 Speaker 3: journalist and she was raped in twenty fifteen, and the 143 00:07:35,693 --> 00:07:38,413 Speaker 3: beginning of the film shows us this particular incident. So 144 00:07:38,453 --> 00:07:41,133 Speaker 3: a very senior journalist, she was applying for a job, 145 00:07:41,493 --> 00:07:43,173 Speaker 3: she went to meet him. Turns out it was a 146 00:07:43,213 --> 00:07:47,333 Speaker 3: dinner she claims to have been drugged, and then on 147 00:07:47,453 --> 00:07:50,093 Speaker 3: the taxi on the way home, the journalist takes it 148 00:07:50,173 --> 00:07:52,533 Speaker 3: back to the hotel, even though she claims that she 149 00:07:52,573 --> 00:07:54,933 Speaker 3: wanted to be let off at a station, and then 150 00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:59,613 Speaker 3: and then she's taken into the hotel and the assault happens, 151 00:08:00,253 --> 00:08:03,893 Speaker 3: and the film this is sort of announced to us 152 00:08:03,893 --> 00:08:06,293 Speaker 3: at the beginning of the film with a conversation with 153 00:08:06,453 --> 00:08:09,133 Speaker 3: her taxi driver, and then you see the footage of 154 00:08:09,173 --> 00:08:11,653 Speaker 3: her being dragged out of the taxi at the hotel, 155 00:08:11,773 --> 00:08:14,693 Speaker 3: clearly dragged and sort of taken into this hotel. So 156 00:08:14,693 --> 00:08:17,813 Speaker 3: it's quite a harrowing start to this story, but it's 157 00:08:17,813 --> 00:08:21,213 Speaker 3: basically we follow her as she. 158 00:08:21,133 --> 00:08:23,173 Speaker 4: Then decides to come forward and. 159 00:08:24,973 --> 00:08:28,333 Speaker 3: Requests a civil ye criminal needs to be bought and 160 00:08:28,413 --> 00:08:31,293 Speaker 3: only about four percent of sexual assaults reported in Japan. 161 00:08:31,373 --> 00:08:33,213 Speaker 3: It's not something people want to do and they very 162 00:08:33,293 --> 00:08:36,293 Speaker 3: rarely put their faces out there. And she's actually decided, 163 00:08:36,413 --> 00:08:37,733 Speaker 3: I have to do this. 164 00:08:37,733 --> 00:08:39,133 Speaker 4: This is ridiculous. I have to do this. 165 00:08:39,213 --> 00:08:41,373 Speaker 3: I have to we have to try and change these 166 00:08:41,453 --> 00:08:45,653 Speaker 3: laws in our and our attitude towards sexual assault. And 167 00:08:45,653 --> 00:08:48,493 Speaker 3: this causes a bit of a fraction, you know, causes 168 00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:51,653 Speaker 3: a bit of friction with her family. And then we 169 00:08:51,693 --> 00:08:54,653 Speaker 3: follow her on this journey and she loses the criminal case, 170 00:08:54,693 --> 00:08:57,213 Speaker 3: but she then brings a civil case, which she then wins, 171 00:08:57,293 --> 00:08:59,933 Speaker 3: and she writes a book about it, and she's sort 172 00:08:59,973 --> 00:09:02,773 Speaker 3: of documented this in this film the whole. 173 00:09:02,533 --> 00:09:03,973 Speaker 4: Way through once again. 174 00:09:04,053 --> 00:09:05,733 Speaker 3: And then of course in the middle of all this, 175 00:09:05,933 --> 00:09:09,133 Speaker 3: me too happens and finally people go, hang on, this 176 00:09:09,333 --> 00:09:11,733 Speaker 3: is a really big, quite scandless case because the journalist 177 00:09:11,733 --> 00:09:13,493 Speaker 3: also who was involved was a close friend of the 178 00:09:13,493 --> 00:09:16,093 Speaker 3: Prime minister's, so there was a lot of scandal here, 179 00:09:16,333 --> 00:09:19,173 Speaker 3: but no one picked up on it, which and she 180 00:09:19,293 --> 00:09:21,413 Speaker 3: got a lot of abuse and she, you know, life 181 00:09:21,453 --> 00:09:24,933 Speaker 3: was very, very difficult for her for about eight years, but. 182 00:09:25,013 --> 00:09:28,333 Speaker 4: You know she's she's stacked to her guns and his head. 183 00:09:28,413 --> 00:09:31,733 Speaker 3: Quite an impact when it comes to talking about sexual 184 00:09:31,773 --> 00:09:32,613 Speaker 3: abuse in Japan. 185 00:09:33,053 --> 00:09:35,413 Speaker 4: Sounds amazing your yeah, really great. 186 00:09:35,493 --> 00:09:40,453 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's Black Box Diaries. Yeah, this one. 187 00:09:42,053 --> 00:09:45,773 Speaker 2: I was thinking our Oscar nominated documentaries ever very uplifting, 188 00:09:45,813 --> 00:09:48,333 Speaker 2: and then I remember my Octopus teacher won Oscar, didn't it, 189 00:09:48,373 --> 00:09:51,053 Speaker 2: and that was I don't know it was uplifting, but 190 00:09:51,093 --> 00:09:54,933 Speaker 2: it was, you know, it was a pretty as these 191 00:09:54,973 --> 00:09:59,973 Speaker 2: ones here anyway, They do sound like amazing bits of storytelling. 192 00:10:00,013 --> 00:10:03,013 Speaker 2: So thank you very much, Fantasica, black Box Diaries and 193 00:10:03,053 --> 00:10:05,333 Speaker 2: no Other Land her film picks for this week. Both 194 00:10:05,333 --> 00:10:07,653 Speaker 2: of those are nominated for an Oscar, which is on 195 00:10:08,373 --> 00:10:10,453 Speaker 2: March third, I think New Zealand time, and we'll have 196 00:10:10,493 --> 00:10:12,093 Speaker 2: all the details from on the news Talks. 197 00:10:12,093 --> 00:10:15,653 Speaker 1: He'db website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 198 00:10:15,853 --> 00:10:19,053 Speaker 1: Listen live to news Talks I'd be from nine am Saturday, 199 00:10:19,293 --> 00:10:21,333 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio