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Speaker 1: Let's be honest with each other about something. Right. That

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Speaker 1: increase in rough sleeping that the cities are anecdotally reporting

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Speaker 1: to that homelessness report will be caused by the shutting

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Speaker 1: down of those emergency motels. I mean, I know the

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Speaker 1: government's trying to avoid having to admit that, but that

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Speaker 1: is the big thing that's changed since the election. They've

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Speaker 1: shut down the motels, and some of the people who

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Speaker 1: were in those motels, or who might have gone to

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Speaker 1: those motels, have ended up on the streets. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think that that's unexpected. That is not an unexpected

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Speaker 1: consequence of taking a tougher line on the motels. Now,

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Speaker 1: don't see me as tough, like hard hearted on this.

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Speaker 1: I don't want anyone sleeping on the streets, and I

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Speaker 1: venture most of us don't. But I still think that

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Speaker 1: shutting down those motels was a good idea because that

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Speaker 1: was out of hand, wasn't it. I mean, spending one

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Speaker 1: point four billion dollars on emergency accommodation in six years

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Speaker 1: was just way too much money. I prefer that I

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Speaker 1: prefer the line the government's taking at the moment, which

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Speaker 1: is to put the obligation where it actually should be

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Speaker 1: which is on family and friends, which is to say

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Speaker 1: that if someone finds themselves God forbid, without a roof

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Speaker 1: over their heads, the first place that they should go

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Speaker 1: for help is not the state. It should be their

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Speaker 1: mum or their brother, or their auntie, or their son

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Speaker 1: or their friend. And only then when all of their

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Speaker 1: options are exhausted and they really have no one to

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Speaker 1: turn to, then should they turn to the state. But

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Speaker 1: that is not what was happening with the emergency motels.

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Speaker 1: The state was the first port of call right if

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Speaker 1: you think about it, Actually, the state has stepped in

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Speaker 1: to take over a lot of roles that we normally

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Speaker 1: would have relied on each other for and in some

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Speaker 1: cases the sun avoidable and in some cases for the best,

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Speaker 1: for example police or whatever. But in this case, let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, one point four billion dollars is a lot

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Speaker 1: of money that could have been spent on anything else

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Speaker 1: that we are running dry on right now, healthcare, cops, education.

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Speaker 1: So actually, first place you turn to if you don't

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Speaker 1: have somewhere to sleep is your family. Only at the

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Speaker 1: end of the road should the state step in. For

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