1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Transpower is warning that we urgently need more electricity generation 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: to come online as the gas is running out faster 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: than we expect it Now, according to modeling, there may 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: not be enough power in the grid to meet demand 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: next winter. James Kilty is Transpower's CEO and with us. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Hi, James, Hither, how are you? 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. Will we have blackouts next winter? 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: No, we won't. Hither. What we've released is something called 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: the Security of Supply Assessment. It looks ten years ahead 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: and tests the electricity system's ability to meet demand and 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: looking at three specific tests, and we do it every year. 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: It's roll and report this year. What it shows is 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 2: under two of the tests, things are actually improving, getting better, 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: and under one of them, the winter energy margin, which 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: you often hear talked about, things are getting a little 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: bit worse year on year. But the tests include a buffer, 17 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: so the fact that we're dipping slightly below the buffer 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: does not mean that there'll be a tricity supply shortages 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: next year. 20 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on with the electricity generation? Because I 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: thought everybody was sort of getting on with it. 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: That's absolutely the case. There's an enormous amount of investment 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: happening around the country as we speak. So over the 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: last first five years of this decade, in fact, about 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: ten percent more electricity generation has been invested in and delivered, 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: and the same looks to be happening again over the 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: next few years. The challenges in the background. Gas supplies 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: in the country have declined more quickly than expected, and 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: so there's a need for us to make sure we 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: keep the pedal down on new investment and new development 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: of electricity resources. 32 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's been kind of a little bit 33 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: shocking how fast it's dropped off. Has it surprised you. 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:51,919 Speaker 2: I think it's surprised most industry members and commentators around 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: the industry. It is a precipitous decline in gas supply 36 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: and availability into electricity generation. As I say that leving 37 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: of investment in the system right now is quite amazing. 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: There's enormous amounts of investment happening, new power generation being 39 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 2: developed all around the country and new batteries, importantly, new 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: batteries to support the system going forward. 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: Good stuff, James, thank you very much, appreciate your time. 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: James Kilty, Transpower CEO. 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drive, Listen live to 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 45 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio