1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,933 Speaker 1: from News Talks ATB. 3 00:00:36,293 --> 00:00:39,293 Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes to ten on News Talks EDB. We're 4 00:00:39,293 --> 00:00:42,973 Speaker 2: not just playing the Spice Girls for funnel though, you know, 5 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:47,733 Speaker 2: not a post of that. We give you a variety 6 00:00:47,773 --> 00:00:49,853 Speaker 2: on the show. You know that. Ah No, it's because 7 00:00:49,933 --> 00:00:53,013 Speaker 2: us Sporty Spice. Melc has teased that the group are 8 00:00:53,093 --> 00:00:57,293 Speaker 2: quote closer than they've ever been unquote to a full 9 00:00:57,373 --> 00:01:00,773 Speaker 2: reunion tour, one that would include Posh Spice Victoria Beckham 10 00:01:00,773 --> 00:01:02,693 Speaker 2: being on board for the first time. She's been too 11 00:01:02,733 --> 00:01:05,093 Speaker 2: cool in the past. Remember back in twenty nineteen they 12 00:01:05,173 --> 00:01:09,133 Speaker 2: had a partial reunion. The other four reunited, but Posh 13 00:01:09,133 --> 00:01:11,933 Speaker 2: Spice didn't take part, So hopefully next time she will. Actually, 14 00:01:12,133 --> 00:01:14,293 Speaker 2: she probably needs a bit of good publicity at the moment, 15 00:01:14,333 --> 00:01:16,973 Speaker 2: so that could be. That could very much be on 16 00:01:17,013 --> 00:01:19,973 Speaker 2: the card. Jack says Marie my Son's at Sacred Heart. 17 00:01:20,013 --> 00:01:23,413 Speaker 2: The kids and community had a fantastic afternoon watching the 18 00:01:23,413 --> 00:01:25,533 Speaker 2: Super Rugby is today. If they want to grow rugby, 19 00:01:25,533 --> 00:01:27,533 Speaker 2: this is what needs to happen. Take the game out 20 00:01:27,573 --> 00:01:29,893 Speaker 2: to the people. I'm with you, Marie, one hundred percent 21 00:01:29,893 --> 00:01:32,733 Speaker 2: with you on that one. Jordan says Jack. I was 22 00:01:32,733 --> 00:01:34,973 Speaker 2: a reader writer in a high school exam last year. 23 00:01:35,573 --> 00:01:38,293 Speaker 2: The exam mentioned the Yellow Page's phone book as part 24 00:01:38,333 --> 00:01:40,293 Speaker 2: of the question. The student had to ask me what 25 00:01:40,333 --> 00:01:42,413 Speaker 2: that was, and I had to explain what a phone 26 00:01:42,413 --> 00:01:45,853 Speaker 2: book was to a teenager. Pretty funny. Honestly, that doesn't 27 00:01:45,853 --> 00:01:49,013 Speaker 2: surprise me. It's amazing that there are a few things 28 00:01:49,013 --> 00:01:52,413 Speaker 2: that were as prominent that are now that have suffered 29 00:01:52,453 --> 00:01:55,573 Speaker 2: a greater fool from prominence, wouldn't you say in our 30 00:01:55,613 --> 00:01:58,493 Speaker 2: lives over the last couple of decades in the digital age, 31 00:01:58,813 --> 00:02:00,533 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two is the text number if you 32 00:02:00,533 --> 00:02:02,533 Speaker 2: want to send us the message. This morning, our film 33 00:02:02,533 --> 00:02:05,253 Speaker 2: review of Francesca Rudkin is here with her film pics 34 00:02:05,293 --> 00:02:10,573 Speaker 2: for this weekend. TESCA, Good morning. Two foreign films this morning. 35 00:02:10,653 --> 00:02:12,653 Speaker 2: We're going to start off with one that is showing 36 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:15,093 Speaker 2: in cinemas at the moment. It's in Portuguese. Tell us 37 00:02:15,093 --> 00:02:16,333 Speaker 2: about the Secret Agent. 38 00:02:17,133 --> 00:02:19,533 Speaker 3: Okay, so everybody will have heard about The Secret Agent 39 00:02:19,653 --> 00:02:24,133 Speaker 3: because it's received a lot of Golden Globe nominations, Oscar nominations. 40 00:02:24,733 --> 00:02:29,333 Speaker 3: Its lead actor Wagnermora one Best Actor for Drama at 41 00:02:29,333 --> 00:02:32,293 Speaker 3: the Golden Globes. He's the first Brazilian actor to do so, 42 00:02:32,533 --> 00:02:35,813 Speaker 3: and he's also received the Best Actor Oscar nomination. So 43 00:02:35,933 --> 00:02:39,173 Speaker 3: this film should be on your list of, you know, 44 00:02:39,533 --> 00:02:44,293 Speaker 3: the big films to see this year. Absolutely, it's a 45 00:02:44,333 --> 00:02:49,213 Speaker 3: really extraordinary film. Actually, it's the collaboration really between Wagnamora 46 00:02:49,373 --> 00:02:53,373 Speaker 3: and his director Clay be Field, both Brazilian filmmakers are 47 00:02:54,013 --> 00:02:57,893 Speaker 3: and they it's quite a personal story to them. They 48 00:02:58,053 --> 00:03:00,973 Speaker 3: very much remember what it was like to grow up 49 00:03:01,173 --> 00:03:05,253 Speaker 3: under a military dictatorship, not necessarily in this period of 50 00:03:05,253 --> 00:03:07,373 Speaker 3: time where this film is set in nineteen seventy seven. 51 00:03:07,373 --> 00:03:09,373 Speaker 3: They're both very very young, but they can remember the 52 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:12,093 Speaker 3: Ongong it was about in the middle of the regime. 53 00:03:12,373 --> 00:03:16,893 Speaker 3: They can remember just the ongoing impact it had on 54 00:03:16,933 --> 00:03:20,493 Speaker 3: the people, and that's what this film was really about. 55 00:03:20,573 --> 00:03:24,373 Speaker 3: It is a political thriller, but it doesn't really capture 56 00:03:25,493 --> 00:03:28,413 Speaker 3: how unusual it is. It has its own sort of 57 00:03:28,453 --> 00:03:33,613 Speaker 3: tone and atmosphere. It's also a social commentary. We just 58 00:03:33,733 --> 00:03:36,413 Speaker 3: follow the day to day life of Brazilians under the 59 00:03:36,453 --> 00:03:41,413 Speaker 3: military dictatorship. It's filled with cultural references. Jaws is playing 60 00:03:41,453 --> 00:03:45,413 Speaker 3: at the local cinema and it's got this brutal violence 61 00:03:45,453 --> 00:03:48,053 Speaker 3: which kind of comes almost out of nowhere, and it's 62 00:03:48,653 --> 00:03:51,333 Speaker 3: a comedy and there's this touch of magical realism. So 63 00:03:51,693 --> 00:03:53,493 Speaker 3: there's an you sort of walk out of this film 64 00:03:53,533 --> 00:03:57,373 Speaker 3: going in a way that that was a it was 65 00:03:57,453 --> 00:04:00,733 Speaker 3: a high stakes political thriller. The tension does build throughout, 66 00:04:01,013 --> 00:04:04,773 Speaker 3: but also unfolded in the most low key way, because 67 00:04:04,773 --> 00:04:07,533 Speaker 3: the reality is that most people actually just had to 68 00:04:07,573 --> 00:04:11,093 Speaker 3: adapt and get used to living under a regime like this, 69 00:04:11,373 --> 00:04:14,653 Speaker 3: and so you're just following that kind of that tense 70 00:04:14,733 --> 00:04:19,293 Speaker 3: but day to day life Wagner plays. He's a university professor. 71 00:04:19,413 --> 00:04:24,053 Speaker 3: He takes refuge in the city of Hessefi during carnival 72 00:04:24,213 --> 00:04:25,773 Speaker 3: and he knows that there is a hit man out 73 00:04:25,813 --> 00:04:29,613 Speaker 3: for him. He's taken in by this gorgeous woman, old 74 00:04:29,693 --> 00:04:33,173 Speaker 3: woman who offers accommodation in safety to political dissonance, and 75 00:04:32,653 --> 00:04:35,333 Speaker 3: she's looking after people from all over the place in 76 00:04:35,333 --> 00:04:37,613 Speaker 3: this community. And we just follow him as he tries 77 00:04:37,653 --> 00:04:40,053 Speaker 3: to reconnect with his young son, his wife previously died, 78 00:04:40,093 --> 00:04:43,053 Speaker 3: and basically stay alive, and you get a sense that 79 00:04:43,653 --> 00:04:46,053 Speaker 3: Brazilians are really looking. We also flip forward in time 80 00:04:46,093 --> 00:04:47,773 Speaker 3: to a couple of women who are sort of research 81 00:04:47,813 --> 00:04:49,853 Speaker 3: during this period of time, and there is a sense 82 00:04:49,893 --> 00:04:53,013 Speaker 3: that Resilians are starting to sort of show a lot 83 00:04:53,013 --> 00:04:56,093 Speaker 3: of interested reinvestigate their history and their past and things. 84 00:04:56,213 --> 00:04:58,893 Speaker 3: It really is fabulous. As I said, it's a little unusual. 85 00:04:58,933 --> 00:05:01,573 Speaker 3: It's two hours forty. Just sit there, let it wash 86 00:05:01,613 --> 00:05:03,693 Speaker 3: over you. You'll be thinking to yourself, what is this? Is 87 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:06,213 Speaker 3: this a thriller? It's not very sure. Is this a comedy? 88 00:05:06,933 --> 00:05:09,053 Speaker 3: And yes it is all those things. So just sit 89 00:05:09,293 --> 00:05:10,853 Speaker 3: and enjoy it. 90 00:05:10,733 --> 00:05:11,013 Speaker 1: It is. 91 00:05:11,213 --> 00:05:13,453 Speaker 2: It is fabulous, two hours forty. Just so you know, 92 00:05:13,653 --> 00:05:16,933 Speaker 2: I'm just just being the middle middle. I've had a 93 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:20,133 Speaker 2: ten saying Jack, the Secret Agent is forty minutes too long. 94 00:05:20,853 --> 00:05:24,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, it's yeah, I would take I'd probably take 95 00:05:25,293 --> 00:05:28,173 Speaker 3: twenty off or fifteen maybe if I could. But then, 96 00:05:28,293 --> 00:05:31,653 Speaker 3: but then, when I sort of realized that I was 97 00:05:31,693 --> 00:05:33,773 Speaker 3: watching something just a little bit unique in it with 98 00:05:33,813 --> 00:05:36,533 Speaker 3: its own vision and its own sort of yeah, I 99 00:05:36,613 --> 00:05:38,013 Speaker 3: just kind of relaxed and went with it. 100 00:05:38,813 --> 00:05:41,373 Speaker 2: I just enjoy it. Yeah, it sounds good. I'm into it. 101 00:05:41,413 --> 00:05:42,653 Speaker 2: But like you say, you just gotta let it wash 102 00:05:42,693 --> 00:05:44,373 Speaker 2: over you a little bit. So that's the second agent 103 00:05:44,453 --> 00:05:46,893 Speaker 2: that is showing in cinemas at the moment. Also showing 104 00:05:46,893 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 2: in cinemas is nouvelle vague yes, ulve yes, they vague correct. 105 00:05:53,493 --> 00:05:56,413 Speaker 3: So this is from Richard link later. It is shot 106 00:05:56,413 --> 00:05:58,293 Speaker 3: in black and white. It is a homage to Jean 107 00:05:58,413 --> 00:06:03,133 Speaker 3: Luke Goddard's film Breathless, which was released in nineteen sixties, 108 00:06:03,133 --> 00:06:05,453 Speaker 3: which is kind of regarded as the first one film. 109 00:06:05,493 --> 00:06:07,733 Speaker 3: You know, he invented jump cut and things. It was 110 00:06:07,853 --> 00:06:12,493 Speaker 3: very elevative, and it kind of we watched the film 111 00:06:12,533 --> 00:06:14,493 Speaker 3: being made, so we're put back in this time and 112 00:06:14,533 --> 00:06:18,213 Speaker 3: place and we watch Godda and his colleagues and his 113 00:06:18,293 --> 00:06:21,573 Speaker 3: actors pull this film together, so we sort of see 114 00:06:21,573 --> 00:06:23,693 Speaker 3: behind the scenes of the making of this film and 115 00:06:23,733 --> 00:06:27,053 Speaker 3: the way it was created. And you know, it was 116 00:06:27,133 --> 00:06:30,533 Speaker 3: a lot of handheld camera work and this abrupt editing 117 00:06:30,813 --> 00:06:34,093 Speaker 3: and often the sound was UNSYNCD. It was they very 118 00:06:34,173 --> 00:06:36,973 Speaker 3: much made it up as they went along, like Jean 119 00:06:37,213 --> 00:06:39,693 Speaker 3: Gotta would half the time wouldn't have any lines, and 120 00:06:39,693 --> 00:06:41,533 Speaker 3: the actors would turn up going could you just give 121 00:06:41,613 --> 00:06:43,013 Speaker 3: us one line for the day? 122 00:06:43,093 --> 00:06:43,253 Speaker 2: You know. 123 00:06:44,093 --> 00:06:46,453 Speaker 3: So if you're at all interested in a new wave, 124 00:06:46,733 --> 00:06:50,253 Speaker 3: you will absolutely fall in love with this film. I 125 00:06:50,293 --> 00:06:54,213 Speaker 3: think some knowledge of maybe briefless, all the error is 126 00:06:54,293 --> 00:06:59,453 Speaker 3: required to really get the most out of it. But yeah, 127 00:06:59,493 --> 00:07:01,893 Speaker 3: it's it's still this film does a very good job 128 00:07:01,933 --> 00:07:04,453 Speaker 3: of capturing what made the new wave so exciting. 129 00:07:04,893 --> 00:07:07,693 Speaker 2: Very good. Okay, so there's Novelle that is showing in 130 00:07:07,733 --> 00:07:10,133 Speaker 2: cinemas as well. That's in French. The first film, The 131 00:07:10,173 --> 00:07:13,213 Speaker 2: Secret Agent is also in cinemas, that's in Portuguese. All 132 00:07:13,253 --> 00:07:15,933 Speaker 2: the details for those will be up at the News 133 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:19,693 Speaker 2: Talks EDB website and we will catch Francesca again next week. 134 00:07:20,293 --> 00:07:23,413 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. 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