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Speaker 2: Bonnie and Welcome Today. Farmers rejoiced the common sense tractors

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Speaker 2: rolled into town, Eggs not joining the etes. Our military

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Speaker 2: is being sent to Korea, though as the area hots up,

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Speaker 2: We've got field days ago, com Coms had a look

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Speaker 2: at the old petrol prices. Jinny and Mark do the

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Speaker 2: Politics after eight o'clock and Richard Darley Steve Price Player, Well,

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Speaker 2: wait the listen. It is seven past rock Sky Now.

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Speaker 2: Of all the change that's unfolding in the country as

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Speaker 2: the new government tries to dig us out of the

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Speaker 2: hole left by the last lot, the bit that has

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Speaker 2: surprised me more than most is there's fast track law.

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Speaker 2: In the opposition to it, there were protests over the weekend. Protests.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's one thing to bring talkback or

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Speaker 2: maybe even put a submission into a select committee or

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Speaker 2: writer report that condemns it. But a protest, a whole protest,

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Speaker 2: I get, I mean, I get what they're not happy with.

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Speaker 2: They can't hold stuff up the way they used to

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Speaker 2: are the forest and birds. The single issue crazies who

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Speaker 2: have no lack of desire to hire lawlawyers and jurymanner

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Speaker 2: the system to bend it to their way. The fact

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Speaker 2: their way is counterproductive to the way most of us

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Speaker 2: want seems to be of no interest to them. The

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Speaker 2: evidence as to how we got here is littered all

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Speaker 2: over the country. The things we haven't done, the broken

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Speaker 2: bits the road to the bridges, the projects that take

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Speaker 2: years longer than they need to, the reality of simply

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Speaker 2: getting to the start line taking years longer than we

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Speaker 2: need to. It's all down to the regulation that was

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Speaker 2: the Resource Management Act and the dangerous bits that give

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Speaker 2: people who don't want things done not to say. I mean,

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Speaker 2: having a say isn't the issue. It's the power, it's

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Speaker 2: the legal redress. It's the ability to exhaust every angle

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Speaker 2: to stop things being done that's been the danger. The

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Speaker 2: fact this country infrastructurally and therefore economically is broken and

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Speaker 2: hobbled is why we are here. It is time to

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Speaker 2: get stuff under way. It's time to tip the balance,

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Speaker 2: it's time to get on with it. There are still

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Speaker 2: safeguards in place, these expert groups advising ministers, but what

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Speaker 2: can't be in dispute. Is the parlor state we're in,

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Speaker 2: And yet despite that, a few hard liners want more.

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Speaker 2: Where that came from. Stagnation is their care card, which

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Speaker 2: is selfish, it's my opic, it's a waste of your weekend.

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Speaker 2: I'm on the side of those who want to get

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Speaker 2: on with it. And guess what that side is. It's

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Speaker 2: the majority. And in a democracy, the majority wins.

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Speaker 3: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Now from not really surprised, file Hunter's guilty, so there

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Speaker 2: is there an appeal? Is he going to jail?

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Speaker 4: It ranges all the way from probation with some conditions

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Speaker 4: of probation such as drug treatment, to prison Time's not

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Speaker 4: usual to give prison time to a first offenders.

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Speaker 2: I did look a bit open and shut back.

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Speaker 5: Pasters brought him devastating details of his drug use, so

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Speaker 5: the addiction, his inability to clean, how he was using

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Speaker 5: crack cocaine almost every twenty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah to the UK rice where we've got new polling

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Speaker 2: for you shortly, but on the trail, Russie's now offering

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Speaker 2: tax cuts, which is better than what labor are offering.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 7: I know Labour have been taking inspiration from one of

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Speaker 7: Brad Pitt's most famous films. The first rule of labor

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Speaker 7: tax rises is that you don't talk about tax rises labor.

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Speaker 2: I'm beck with warnings though.

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Speaker 8: We know where these sorts of unfunded promises from Conservative

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Speaker 8: Party prime ministers lead, leaving you and your family worse off.

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Speaker 8: The money is not there and it will mean four

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Speaker 8: eight hundred pounds on your mortgage.

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Speaker 2: Meantime, Nigel of Reform has had some concrete throwner them.

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Speaker 9: It is actually an affront to the very idea of

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Speaker 9: democratic debate. Look, you know I'm not a softie. You

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Speaker 9: know you can say what you bullomin like to me.

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Speaker 9: Do you start chucking cement at me or stuck chucking

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Speaker 9: stones at me? It's very, very different.

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Speaker 2: And the end of the year erise where it's not

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Speaker 2: all about the football but the yobs in the potential

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Speaker 2: trouble they bring.

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Speaker 6: English supporters have a reputation for getting drunk, being noisy,

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Speaker 6: traveling in huge numbers, traveling without tickets, and at times

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Speaker 6: singing obnoxious songs. But the days in which they used

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Speaker 6: to come and tear up towns and attack people.

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Speaker 2: Along therest of noxious songs. Finally, more proof the ultra

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Speaker 2: process plant based foods are not good for you. So

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Speaker 2: we have a study this morning from Aston Medical School

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Speaker 2: in Birmingham that's found that eating plant based foods raised

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Speaker 2: bad cholesterol. Also high pertension can lead to heart disease

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Speaker 2: and increase of five percent and an increase in the

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Speaker 2: odds of an early death by thirteen percent. Still studying

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Speaker 2: the meatless meat options, though for just how much much

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Speaker 2: risk is associated with those particular products use the world

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Speaker 2: in ninety seconds. By the way, speaking of Rischie, the

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Speaker 2: unemployment rate's gone up. Good for the Bank of England,

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Speaker 2: not good for Rishie, gone from four point three to

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Speaker 2: four point four. Wages are still booming and that is

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Speaker 2: a major problem for the Bank of England. Wage growth

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Speaker 2: excluding bonus is held at six percent, and very good

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Speaker 2: news from Baltimore. And you know I've been all over this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we all got fascinated for about three and

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Speaker 2: a half minutes when the ship ran into the bridge

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Speaker 2: and the bridge fell over, but we then forgot about

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Speaker 2: the story. The Francis Key Bridge has still falling over

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Speaker 2: and the day is still a mess. But nevertheless, the

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Speaker 2: shipping channel in Baltimore as of this morning is back

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Speaker 2: open twelve past.

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Speaker 3: Six, the Make Costing breakf very good news is.

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Speaker 2: Celebrating in Norway Rare Earth Norway, which is a company

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Speaker 2: they found and confirmed Europe's largest proven deposit of rare

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Speaker 2: earth elements. Now why is that important? Because of rare

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Speaker 2: earths are needed and things like you know that the

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Speaker 2: whole renewable business and evs and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 2: it's one of the few deposits not owned or controlled

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Speaker 2: by China, and up until this point, China has been

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Speaker 2: a problem in that department. So it's good. Fifteen past

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Speaker 2: six from my wife Andrew Keller. He very good morning

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Speaker 2: for you.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, very good morning.

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Speaker 2: Mike can write trochometer light and heavy. What are we seeing?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, financial markets around the world, Mike, we're all in

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Speaker 11: wait and ce mode for this FED to come to

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Speaker 11: the party tomorrow morning. Certainly more potential for volatility without

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Speaker 11: CPI being released on the same day. In the meantime, Yeah,

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Speaker 11: we're going to check the car and truck count here.

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Speaker 10: Maybe is KNOWLM.

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Speaker 11: So what's happening on the roads? What conclusions can we.

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Speaker 12: Make from that?

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Speaker 11: Well, the light traffic index, it fell zero point four

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Speaker 11: light traffic, and that gives you a feel for the

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Speaker 11: state of demand in the economy, not production. And the

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Speaker 11: logic here is that, you know, variation or changes in

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Speaker 11: the light traffic number reflects you know, discretionary spending, are

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Speaker 11: you prepared to go on a trip? And the movement

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Speaker 11: of careers.

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Speaker 3: That sort of thing.

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Speaker 11: Look, the trend is flat but downwards in per capita terms,

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Speaker 11: which means it looks and feels a little bit like GDP,

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Speaker 11: for the month that fell two point three percent, which

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Speaker 13: Look at it.

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Speaker 11: We might have got a positive signal out of the

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Speaker 11: heavy traffic index for Q one for the first quarter,

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Speaker 11: not on a per capita basis, of course. But if

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Speaker 11: I sort of take a wee step back and I

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Speaker 11: look at the long term trends here, you've got this

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Speaker 11: obvious pandemic disruption. But the pattern we're seeing now, Mike,

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Speaker 11: looks awfully increasingly like what we saw in the GFC,

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Speaker 11: which is a sobering thwart.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's the truth. And then we come to Tower,

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Speaker 2: who had, thank good Lord, some good news.

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Speaker 11: Yes, so one winner the internets at the moment where

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Speaker 11: there is there may be others, but there are few

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Speaker 11: and far between. As insurance company, Towers delivered another positive

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Speaker 11: profit guidance, which comes amid a sort of a slew

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Speaker 11: And we're seeing this continued and under performance of the

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Speaker 11: and at the end of every week. You know, so

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Speaker 11: far this year, the Internets fifty is up just over

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Speaker 11: one percent, but I look at the S and P

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Speaker 11: up five point three percent, the NASDAK fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 11: So very disappointing results from the local market so far

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Speaker 11: this year. But back to Tower now, Mike, when you've

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Speaker 11: been this game a long time, one of the trends

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Speaker 11: you bous is what I call the law of recurring warnings.

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Speaker 11: And by that I mean if a company gives the

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Speaker 11: earnings downgrade, you tend to brace yourself for the next one.

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Speaker 11: And once you get a couple, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 11: warning does ing. But it works the other way too, Mike,

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Speaker 11: and I do feel like we've talked about Tower before,

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Speaker 11: because well we have. We talked about it in April,

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Speaker 11: and we talked about it in May, and now we

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Speaker 11: there's nothing downbeat about Tower at the moment. So net

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Speaker 11: profit after tax and now saying is going to be

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Speaker 11: another five million dollars higher. They're referring to a positive

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Speaker 11: trading environment and most importantly benign weather because the threshold

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Speaker 11: for large events has not been met. The weather's been

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Speaker 11: pretty good. But the thing think about this, might it

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Speaker 11: could get even better for them this financial We just

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Speaker 11: they've got this forty five million dollar what they call

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Speaker 11: there haven't been any of those large events, and if

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Speaker 11: they don't have any large events so it doesn't get used.

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Speaker 11: They had that back into net profits, so it would

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Speaker 11: boost net profit by the forty five million, less tax

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Speaker 11: another thirty two million, So could get even better for them.

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Speaker 11: You never know.

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Speaker 2: Across the Tasman for me because things are looking in

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Speaker 2: Chris I's reading something about the fashion industry and that

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Speaker 2: part of the world. Not to mention hospitality, but the

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Speaker 2: old confidence is slipped, isn't it well?

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Speaker 11: At hands? This is the NAB business confidence which has

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Speaker 11: slipped into negative territory in May. So they're basically now

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Speaker 11: starting to see conditionings softening. Remember they've just released their

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Speaker 11: first quarter GDP. It was the lowest level of GDPENT

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Speaker 11: growed in decades. Some fear now that the slowdown will

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Speaker 11: step into the second quarter. So you're now seeing confidence

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Speaker 11: falling quite sharply, and things like manufacturing in transport, utilities, construction.

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Speaker 11: So they've got a few there's a few dark clouds

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Speaker 11: on the horizon for the Aussies as well. It's not

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Speaker 11: just us.

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Speaker 10: We're going to sweat.

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Speaker 11: We're going to We're going to we're going to sort

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Speaker 11: of share the misery around like that's what we're going

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Speaker 11: to do.

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Speaker 2: What are the numbers right now?

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Speaker 11: The Dow Jones ahead of this fent announcement to my

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Speaker 11: the Dow Jones is down one hundred and sixty six points,

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Speaker 11: which is zero point four to three within thirty eight thousand,

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Speaker 2: Andrew kellahead Jimiwealth at dot co dot m ZSK. You

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Speaker 3: The Mike Hosking breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Here's pole the poles this morning and the British race

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Speaker 2: twenty five point lead for Labor landslide bigger than Tory

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Speaker 2: SMP thirty would lose thirty one. The whole things are shambles, Lollie, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

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Speaker 2: Right, Netflix, they're in the business for the chasing the

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Speaker 15: I'm an Olympic champion, a mummy.

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Speaker 1: There is no crowd heavier in the Olympic one hundred

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Speaker 2: This is called sprint the World's Fastest Humans. It's out

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Speaker 1: The newsmakers and the personalities the big names.

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Speaker 1: With Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial, and rural.

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Speaker 2: Guess he had no control over when the court would

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Speaker 2: having increased profit, increase in premiums. My house insurance went

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Speaker 2: look at how good it could be. But who's paying

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of the economy in numbers, new numbers this morning

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Speaker 2: around how we're handling the cost of living crisis. Kiwibanks

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Speaker 2: and your State of Savings Index has found that one

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Speaker 2: saving less than one hundred dollars a month. The Kibank

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Speaker 2: chief executive Steve Yukovic's back with us. Steve, very good

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Speaker 2: morning to you. When you look at the picture versus

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Speaker 17: People are doing it very tough and particularly we've seen

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Speaker 2: Thirty nine percent saving less than one hundred dollars a month.

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Speaker 17: No, this is a sample of all of New Zealanders,

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Speaker 2: That's depressing, isn't.

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Speaker 11: It It is?

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Speaker 17: It shows just how hard it is for people. I mean,

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Speaker 17: I mean, I think the short story is being able

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Speaker 17: absolutely the best idea. The thing that really struck me

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Speaker 2: These are working New Zealand does aren't they? In general?

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Speaker 17: Yep, very much so. And you know, indicative of a

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Speaker 17: So you know there's some things to steer into there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly is it the big bills that like the

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Speaker 12: Yep.

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Speaker 17: and so people are really trying to you know, face

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Speaker 2: See, here's the really interesting thing for me. So we're

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Speaker 17: Here we are, and I think that's what you have

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Speaker 2: That what you're bank saying still later this year as

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Speaker 2: All right, mate, go well, appreciate it. Steve Byukovic, who

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Speaker 2: Arnold state side shortly nineteen two.

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Speaker 3: The my costume breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Now at every stage of laughter re questions. As a kid,

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Speaker 2: Protests were already at Joe's place.

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Speaker 18: You make it such a difference. The main reason I'm

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Speaker 20: Great care.

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Speaker 18: Innocent children have been lost.

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Speaker 2: By Richard Morning Morning, Mike ironic?

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Speaker 22: Is all this right talking about gun violence at this point?

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Speaker 23: As you heard, this was a protester who was trying

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Speaker 23: to point up the applied to Palestinians at the minute.

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Speaker 23: But this comes right on the heels, of course, of

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Speaker 23: another day and another legal first, with Hunter Biden, President's

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Speaker 23: son becoming the first son or daughter of a sitting

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Speaker 23: American president to be found guilty of felonies, three counts

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Speaker 23: of unlawfully purchasing a gun while claiming on the government

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Speaker 23: form that he was no longer a drug addict.

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Speaker 22: All this just days.

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Speaker 23: Before after former President Trump was convicted of his thirty

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Speaker 23: four felonies. This, of course, a case where there is

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Speaker 23: no sentencing day as yet for Hunt Biden, but it's

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Speaker 23: expected to occur sometime in October, so just before the

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Speaker 23: US elections. In what sounds like a carefully written statement,

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Speaker 23: Hunter Biden has responded to the guilty verdict by saying

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Speaker 23: he is quote more grateful for the love and support

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Speaker 23: he's getting than he is quote disappointed by the outcome.

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Speaker 22: Take that as you will.

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Speaker 23: First, Lady Jill Biden was in court for her son's

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Speaker 23: trial on each day but one when she was off

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Speaker 23: in Europe with the President, who, as we say now

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Speaker 23: is getting mostly enthusiastic support from the crowd at this

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Speaker 23: gun violence conference, but maybe has some other thoughts on mind.

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Speaker 22: Here's another extract from it.

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Speaker 18: I give you my word, I know what that feels,

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Speaker 18: that black hole when you received that phone call. It

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Speaker 18: seemed like your black hole in your chest to being

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Speaker 18: sucked into it.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, so talking about gun safety, but perhaps the other

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Speaker 23: issue will on his mind, President Bush. President Biden issued

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Speaker 23: a statement immediately after the verdict saying he stands by

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Speaker 23: his son and accepts the outcome of the case. He

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Speaker 23: says he's proud of the man his son is today

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Speaker 23: and will continue to respect the judicial process. He is,

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Speaker 23: of course, just back from France, where he was also

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Speaker 23: asked about the prospect of a presidential pardon in this

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Speaker 23: particular instance, and he.

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Speaker 22: Replied, I don't know that we live in a Christian

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Speaker 22: that this.

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Speaker 23: Was something that he would not consider. There would be

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Speaker 23: no pardon, he said, So that ruled out when it

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Speaker 23: comes to Donald Trump. He spent his latest rally in

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Speaker 23: Las Vegas slamming the judge in his trial, the very

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Speaker 23: judge who will decide on July the eleventh on his sentencing,

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Speaker 23: a devil. He called him who oversaw a rig case

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Speaker 23: and is a certified Trump hater. So we'll contrast the

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Speaker 23: comments sections here. Hunter Biden could face up to twenty

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Speaker 23: five years in prison. That outcome quite unlikely. It's ten

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Speaker 23: years for each individual count for the three of them

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Speaker 23: for a first offense where no underlying crime has committed.

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Speaker 22: Many things jail time unlikely.

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Speaker 23: He still faces other legal challenges on going, including tax

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Speaker 23: issues and so on. Some Republicans still are railing of

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Speaker 23: a Hunter Biden, saying it's a sweetheart deal he's getting.

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Speaker 23: Does nothing to get to what they call without any evidence,

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Speaker 23: the Biden crime family so ongoes to politics. As to

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Speaker 23: the Jura, several are speaking out. One jury member during

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Speaker 23: number ten says the Duras initially was split six to six.

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Speaker 23: Then after a night's sleep, this particular Dura says, they

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Speaker 23: all came together on the guilty findings. As to the

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Speaker 23: connection with the president, that particular Dura says.

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Speaker 24: No politics came into play, and politics was not even

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Speaker 24: spoken about. The first family was not even spoken about

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Speaker 24: it all. It was all about Hunter.

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Speaker 13: Well.

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Speaker 23: The trial certainly was humiliating, with Hunter Biden's four year

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Speaker 23: crack addiction laid bare, along with its devastating effects on

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Speaker 23: his family. In his own memoir and the audiobook version

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Speaker 23: of it, Hunter Biden spoke in excruciating terms about his

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Speaker 23: drug use.

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Speaker 18: I used my superpower finding crack anytime, anywhere.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, this trial has laid out the challenges of a

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Speaker 23: first family more than anything else we have seen.

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Speaker 22: And none of this has done yet.

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Speaker 23: Might come still crunch yet again as we move closer

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Speaker 23: to the elections this year.

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Speaker 2: And talk to me about the Supreme Court and these

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Speaker 2: recordings and are we going to scandal here or not?

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Speaker 22: It's odd going.

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Speaker 23: You know, the US court system is under scording scrutiny

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Speaker 23: of late. We've had the money that's been funneled to

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Speaker 23: Justice Clarence Thomas on the Supreme Court, the Alito flag

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Speaker 23: waiving issues and now, and undercover recording has been made

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Speaker 23: by a left wing activist of one of the battled

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Speaker 23: members of the Supreme Court. A woman named Laura Windsor

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Speaker 23: went along to an historical society event and.

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Speaker 22: Took a secret tape recorder with her.

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Speaker 23: This substitious recording being condemned by many, but Winsor remaining

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Speaker 23: unrepentant about what she has done.

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Speaker 15: To people who want to pearl clutch about this.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, please tell me how we're going to get answers

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Speaker 13: when this.

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Speaker 23: Is yeah, pearl clutching anyway, She recorded Justice Sam Alito

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Speaker 23: and his wife, The Alitos are the ones who flew

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Speaker 23: the upside down flag at their place, the echoing what

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Speaker 23: the Capitol Hill rioters had done. Now Alito is heard

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Speaker 23: on tapes saying there is a battle with the political

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Speaker 23: left making it difficult to work together.

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Speaker 17: One side or the other is.

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Speaker 22: Away, one side of the other is going to win.

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Speaker 1: He's saying, a way of working, a way of living together, peaceful.

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Speaker 3: B it's different.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, how can you work together with such individuals? This

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Speaker 23: is a Supreme Court justice talking about fighting the political

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Speaker 23: battle is wife, the one whom he blames for flying

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Speaker 23: the flag upside down, says she wants a Christian nation,

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Speaker 23: not one where gay pride flags are flown across the way.

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Speaker 25: But what I want, I want a sacred part of

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Speaker 25: Jesus flag, because I have to look across the lagoon

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Speaker 25: at the pride flag for the next month.

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Speaker 22: She says also that a heritage is German. Quote. You

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Speaker 22: come after me, I'm going to give it back to you.

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Speaker 22: There will be a way.

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Speaker 23: It doesn't have to be now, but there will be

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Speaker 23: a way end quote. So says Martha and Alito.

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Speaker 2: Now I might catch them in a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it very much. And that goes also Katini Brown Jackson,

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Speaker 2: who's one of the Supreme Court gess she got Beyonce tickets,

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Speaker 2: Clarence Thomas, the aforementioned, a lot of reinbursements for travel

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Speaker 2: and friends and high places who are giving it. It seems

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Speaker 2: the most extraordinary things. They're housing allowances, their housing allowances.

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Speaker 2: There's a couple of people who have written books and

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Speaker 2: they're getting royalties from that. I've got no problem with that.

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Speaker 2: If you write a book and you gain royalties. I'm

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Speaker 2: not against that, but this free stuff for the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court job. I would have thought there'd be a blanket rule, nothing,

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Speaker 2: full stop, zero, nada, but clearly I naive ate. Away

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Speaker 2: from seven, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar News Talk

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Speaker 2: SEDB Mike hard and samgo checking on the green MP

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Speaker 2: Tanner's inquiry been three months. Ah, there's a story there

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Speaker 2: more shortly five Away from seven.

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Speaker 3: The ins are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz on the Mike Husking Breakfast on News Talk,

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Speaker 1: said B.

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Speaker 2: Jovinsight for you. This is from the Hay Salary Guide,

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Speaker 2: which is the largest report we have into salary and

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Speaker 2: recruitment trends, based on a survey of more than fifteen

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Speaker 2: thousand respondents covering twelve hundred rolls in twenty six industries.

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Speaker 2: So what have we got. Seventy seven percent of employees

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Speaker 2: ease say they're looking to leave their job in the

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Speaker 2: next twelve months. The greener pastes make more money sixty

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Speaker 2: four percent. It's the cost of living number one reason

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Speaker 2: for the switch. Forty percent unhappy with the salary seventy

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Speaker 2: three percent doesn't reflect their individual performance. That's right, everyone's

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Speaker 2: a genius who needs to earn more. Huge change and

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Speaker 2: pay rise expectations.

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Speaker 23: Though.

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Speaker 2: Back in twenty nineteen, sixty seven percent expected to pay

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Speaker 2: rise of less than three percent. Now sixty one percent

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Speaker 2: want more than three percent, a third expecting ten percent

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Speaker 2: or higher. Because you're so brilliant, that's why no one's

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Speaker 2: as good as you. Eighty six percent of employee ers

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Speaker 2: say they will increase their workers salaries in the next review,

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Speaker 2: but not to the level of the worker's expectation. That's

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Speaker 2: how it works, isn't it. You go, can I have

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Speaker 2: one hundred dollars? No, you can't, You can have fifty?

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Speaker 2: You can I have sixty, No you can't. You get

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Speaker 2: fifty three?

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Speaker 3: And there you go.

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Speaker 2: Are the parts of the report. Businesses becoming more optimistic,

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Speaker 2: sixty four percent believing business activity is going to ramp

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Speaker 2: up in the next twelve months. Skills shortage, unbelievably is

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Speaker 2: still an issue twenty four percent. Mind you, that's seventy

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Speaker 2: six percent saying no, twenty four percent, it's actually gotten

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Speaker 2: worse in the last twelve months. Majority say it's remained

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Speaker 2: about the same. So I think, broadly, broadly, we've got

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Speaker 2: the skill shortage under some sort of control. Good and

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Speaker 2: the immigration search that we've had in the last twelve

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Speaker 2: months or so. Right, oh, dairy not going in, farming

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Speaker 2: not going in and not going into the ets. A

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Speaker 2: little bit of common senses are right there, but of

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Speaker 2: course the big question is if you're not going to ets,

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Speaker 2: how do we price all this in the wonderful world

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Speaker 2: of climate change. Will look at this also something on

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Speaker 2: the field days and the petrol prices as well.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show You Can Trust, the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 3: With Avida Lived, the Age You Feel News Talk SADB.

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Speaker 2: Morning at seven past seven are good news for farmers

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Speaker 2: as heywakanos dead. The farmers aren't going to be put

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Speaker 2: into the ETS and a new way of measuring emissions

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Speaker 2: will need to be found. Of course, dare in New

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Speaker 2: Zealand CEO Campbell Parkers with us. Campbell morning to you,

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Speaker 2: Mordie wake, how are you very well? Indeed? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Common sense arrives at last? Is that how you see it?

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Speaker 16: A look, this has been signaled for some time and

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Speaker 16: it's good to have the clarity and to have a

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Speaker 16: day test when it will be removed. So we welcome

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Speaker 16: the announcement yesterday.

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Speaker 2: How real was Hawakanoa? In other words, it was purported

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Speaker 2: by the previous government that everyone was come by holding

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Speaker 2: hands and you're all in this together. Was that ever true?

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Speaker 16: I wasn't in my role at the time, Mike, but

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Speaker 16: from what I hear, talking with people is a huge amount.

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Speaker 16: If they went into hear waki can are and unfortunately

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Speaker 16: it stalled and didn't progress. But certainly as an industry

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Speaker 16: we want to own the issues and have an input

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Speaker 16: into that. So we look forward to the new group

663
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Speaker 16: that set up, the new Pastoral group, and you know,

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Speaker 16: we're ready to work actively on behalf of farmers in

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Speaker 16: that space.

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Speaker 2: Has enough weight in general been put on the fact

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Speaker 2: farmers are extremely good at what they do. They're not idiots,

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Speaker 2: they don't want to burn the planet down, and that

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Speaker 2: should be taken into account.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we also need to ensure we're using the most

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Speaker 16: appropriate and up to date science in this whole discussion.

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Speaker 12: You know, target to.

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Speaker 16: Targets, and you know, farmers want to do the right

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Speaker 16: thing and make progress towards you know, more efficient production,

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Speaker 16: profitable production and good environmental outcomes, but they do need

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Speaker 16: clarity around the policy settings. So that's what we're looking

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Speaker 16: forward to.

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Speaker 2: Are you optimistic you'll get there? Can get there?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 16: Look, I am optimistic. I'm an optimistic person. And you know,

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Speaker 16: I think we've got to work incredibly hard on behalf

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Speaker 16: of farmers to get what I would call enduring policy

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Speaker 16: in place, because otherwise we get stuck in a cycle.

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Speaker 16: And when farmers have clarity and we get enduring policy,

685
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Speaker 16: they will invest in the things that they need to

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Speaker 16: to improve their farms. And you know understand here at

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Speaker 16: field Days, and you know it's a great example of

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Speaker 16: farmers that will adopt innovation and continue to you know,

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Speaker 16: push forward and do a great job producing high quality

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Speaker 16: product that the world demands.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. We talked to Peter Nation in a

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Speaker 2: couple of moments, got a good vibe there at the moment.

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Speaker 16: Yes, it's just clearing, so it's a little bit hard

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Speaker 16: to tell, but it's very busy. I've come out side

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Speaker 16: and found a quite spot and you know, farmers, you know,

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Speaker 16: always come to field Days. I think we'll have a

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Speaker 16: busy Wednesday and Thursday. The weather looks a little bit,

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Speaker 16: you know, in Clevement on Friday, but we cannot forget

699
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Speaker 16: a critical role that farmers play in the economy. You know,

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Speaker 16: twenty five billion with exports from dairy to the end

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Speaker 16: of April this year. And you know where the farmers

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Speaker 16: do well, communities do well. In New Zealand does well.

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Speaker 16: So we look forward to the next couple of days

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Speaker 16: talking to a.

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Speaker 13: Few of them.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, well said, you go well, Campbell Parker, who's

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Speaker 2: the daary in New Zealand. CEO Peter Nation aforementioned, who's

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Speaker 2: the Chief executive Field days with us in a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments ten minutes past seven again from our Defense

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Speaker 2: Force into Korea. We're sending forty one of our personnel

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Speaker 2: to South Korea to help with the UN Command. Defense

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Speaker 2: Minister Judith Collins with us on this very good morning to.

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Speaker 11: You, Oh good morning mate.

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Speaker 2: Is this increasingly an angsty part of the world?

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Speaker 15: Well, I think any of us who look look at

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Speaker 15: the world now, we can see that things are obviously

717
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Speaker 15: moving in a difficult way. But it's also important to

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Speaker 15: note that the United Nations Command is asked for this

719
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Speaker 15: extra contribution from us. So from my point of view,

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Speaker 15: it's a road of confidence the Museum's role and we're

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Speaker 15: considered a very good player in the world with people

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Speaker 15: who contribute well, and our people will do well.

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Speaker 2: What will they be doing well.

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Speaker 15: There's an Honor Guard, which is the extra to what

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Speaker 15: we've done before. It's a twenty five personnel. Those are

726
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Speaker 15: mostly younger lease experienced of our Defense Force team. So

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Speaker 15: it's a really good opportunity for those with a couple

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Speaker 15: of years service to actually get not only some overseas deployment,

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Speaker 15: but actually working with other nations because now we are

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Speaker 15: one of several other countries involved. But it's good for

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Speaker 15: them to do that, good for their training, good for

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Speaker 15: their understanding of how we work in with other countries.

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Speaker 15: And then of course we've got an extra six going

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Speaker 15: to the currently twelve that we currently provide to the

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Speaker 15: Armistice Commission and.

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Speaker 2: The new incommand and given the parlor state in parts

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Speaker 2: of our Defense Force to forty one stretches or are

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Speaker 2: we comfortable with us?

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Speaker 15: Mostly the large number of this is actually our newer people,

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Speaker 15: and so the fact is that that will be good

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Speaker 15: for them. One of the most things we can do

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Speaker 15: in defense is to keep everyone home because frankfully, no

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Speaker 15: one joins defense because they want to improve their missing

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Speaker 15: skills at home. They really do want to be out

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Speaker 15: there in the world getting to rub shoulders with the

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Speaker 15: people that we will we work with in defense roles.

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Speaker 15: So this is good for defense. It's good for us

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Speaker 15: retaining people. It's really good for us to bringing new

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Speaker 15: people in good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. Defensement is the Judith Colin's twelve minutes

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Speaker 2: past seven passing. Just then trade me property numbers this morning.

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Speaker 2: They're noisy. I always say the same thing. Month to

753
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Speaker 2: month is always be noisy. You look longer term to

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Speaker 2: the quarter to the year. But month and month April

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Speaker 2: to May there are property prices fell two point three percent,

756
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Speaker 2: were down to eight fifty seven thousand on average around

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Speaker 2: the country. I can find only one region which has

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Speaker 2: gone up, which is Gisbon five point two percent. Everyone

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Speaker 2: else is down. Some aren't down much. Canterby's down zero

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Speaker 2: point two, in West Coast is down zero point one.

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Speaker 2: But there are some reasonable falls. So Tiger's down three

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Speaker 2: point two, Hawks Bays down three point seven, the Capital

763
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Speaker 2: down two and Auckland down two point three. But that's

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Speaker 2: where the property market is at currently thirteen past seven.

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Speaker 2: The my costle racist Mordi, my partner's in real estate

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Speaker 2: and Auckland. Their Q two sales and units has already

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Speaker 2: more than last year. Things moving because sellers finally have

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Speaker 2: realized real price into getting on with it. It's a

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Speaker 2: very good point because the numbers I gave you were,

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Speaker 2: you know, the cost of a house on average, and

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Speaker 2: you should always be careful about averages. But that didn't

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Speaker 2: include the number of sales. So you can have the

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Speaker 2: price going down, but the number of sales going up

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Speaker 2: of course. Now sixteen past seven, Yes, the aforementioned Field

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Speaker 2: Days that gets underway today, fifty six the year, more

776
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Speaker 2: than one hundred thousand roll into the Mighty way Kata

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Speaker 2: this week the Field Day Society, chief executive of Peter

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Speaker 2: Nations with us. Peter, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 11: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well indeed, what's the vibe?

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Speaker 20: Vibes feeling really good. So we've about us five. The

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Speaker 20: exhibitors start arriving. They've been here seven weeks building the

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Speaker 20: mini city and there's a lot of people staying to

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Speaker 20: come and we're watching the traffic coming down the motorway

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Speaker 20: and it's the usual queue, so we're quite excited.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic weather and track, a little bit of a problem

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Speaker 2: where it doesn't worry a farmer.

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Speaker 20: Oh no, we only had a sprinkling of rain last night.

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Speaker 20: It's fine today, fine tomorrow. There is rain coming Friday,

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Speaker 20: but who knows it will be raining, but who knows

792
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Speaker 20: when and how much? And on Saturday's looking fine as well.

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Speaker 2: So and I'm hearing in the news this morning the

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Speaker 2: international contingent looks good. Are they coming back in and drives?

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Speaker 16: Yes they are, Mike.

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Speaker 20: I've been doing this job for eight years and been

797
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Speaker 20: involved in field gates for twenty five, and it'd be

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Speaker 20: one of the biggest international contingents I've seen and know.

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Speaker 20: This government is saying New Zone's open for business, and

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Speaker 20: I guess that's a reflection good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And we're still seeing all the stuff we normally see,

802
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Speaker 2: like the innovation, the brains are at play.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, we are in the innovations area, our biggest number

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Speaker 20: of entries in ten years, and I think that's quite

805
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Speaker 20: exciting when people are putting their minds to renovation and

806
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 20: ideas to help the sect around those challenges like you know,

807
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 20: climate change and water quality and those things. So that's

808
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Speaker 20: that's looking really good. And I've got to say the

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Speaker 20: exhibitors have really fronted up again this year, Mike, can

810
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Speaker 20: you know there are head ones out there exactly and

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Speaker 20: we're only one percent empty, so we're not in nine

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Speaker 20: percent four which is great.

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Speaker 2: Effort by the n I was going to say, what

814
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Speaker 2: is that mood? If you're dealing with on farm inflation,

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00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: that's a killer and everybody knows it, or knows I

816
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: know it's dissipated a bit of late. But then again,

817
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Speaker 2: you've got the announcement yesterday, hay waking, you got a

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Speaker 2: government that's on your side broadly speaking. How do you

819
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Speaker 2: balance all that up?

820
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Speaker 3: Oh?

821
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Speaker 20: I think you know, I've been around the farming industry

822
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Speaker 20: my whole life as well, and you know, farmers they

823
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Speaker 20: have these challenges, come at them. Seems to be a

824
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Speaker 20: lot more at the moment, but you know they'll navigate

825
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 20: their way through it. But it is hard on the farm.

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Speaker 20: You know, you've got you look at land prices are

827
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Speaker 20: half what they were a year ago, interest rates of

828
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Speaker 20: sort of double CPI, inflation, fuel, you know, legislation, all

829
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Speaker 20: those things are challenges. But an event like ours, I guess,

830
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Speaker 20: presents those challenges but also tries to present some solutions.

831
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Speaker 20: This year ten o'clock, we're opening the Advocacy Hub, which

832
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Speaker 20: is a joint initiative with Fairated Farmers and that that's

833
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 20: our first initial staff into bringing a lot of organizations

834
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Speaker 20: together for farmers and growers to come and have those

835
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Speaker 20: conversations and debates and get some information direct from the

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Speaker 20: horse's mouth, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic, Go well, mate, ped Nation, who's the chief executive

838
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Speaker 2: at field Dose for another year and speaking of the

839
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Speaker 2: area at will Hart. In this case, Zesper's having another

840
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Speaker 2: crack with their growers. They want to increase supply with

841
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: the contractors in the northern Hemisphere. So they got partners

842
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: right in Italy France. We told you about this at

843
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: the time Italy France grew Japan and Korea and so

844
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Speaker 2: that's called the Zesprey Global Supply the ZGS. Now currently

845
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: it's capped and they want to increase that. Their argument

846
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: is the international demand. They're not able to meet it.

847
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: So more and more people love the old kiwi fruit,

848
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: but we need to grow it and meet the demand.

849
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: They had to go with the growers and they said

850
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Speaker 2: how about it, and the grower said no, thank you.

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00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: So the current limits grown in the Northern Hemisphere would

852
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: only meet forty two percent of forecast demand, so surely

853
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: you want to meet forecast demand by twenty thirty three.

854
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: So they're going to do some shared talks and road

855
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Speaker 2: shows and I'm sure it's going to be on it

856
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: at the Field days as well. So they're going to

857
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: have another go to see if they can get the

858
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: numbers across the line and increase. And as I told you,

859
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Speaker 2: I think the other day, the season looks absolutely fantastic

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Speaker 2: coming up twenty past seven.

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Speaker 3: On my Costkill Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Great time to be in the industry, MKE. Lots of

863
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Speaker 2: good things happening, David, you're a growth. Thank you. Chemists Warehouse,

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866
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867
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868
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Speaker 2: by the way to open early, close late, and they

869
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Speaker 2: got the pharmacists available and on hand to dispense the

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Speaker 2: advice anytime you need it because Chemists Warehouse is committed

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Speaker 2: to offering free prescriptions in every store, every day, regardless

872
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Speaker 2: of what the future hold. Now you got the pseudoephidrine.

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Speaker 2: Those are products containing the pseudoepandrin. They're returning to New

874
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875
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876
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877
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878
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879
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Speaker 2: consult your local chemist warehouse pharmacist to first ensure that

880
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: they're right for you. So to find out more, shop

881
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882
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883
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: Huski seven twenty three another one of those sensible moves

884
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: I reckon this week with this amendment coming to the

885
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: Climate Change Response Act and to make sure that, as

886
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: we've been talking about, agg does not enter the ETS

887
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: emissions trading scheme. In a side note, by the way,

888
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: the report the previous government commission to look at how

889
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: to handle agriculture around climate change it was called ekwoker. Noah,

890
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: did I get that right? Echowacanoa. You've forgotten the hay part, hey, echaquacanoa.

891
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: Now tell me what that means. Just tell me what

892
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 2: it means. Translate that. Does anybody know what that means?

893
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 2: For goodness sake? And how simply it's a good example

894
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: of how simply peppering a few touchy fee the phrases

895
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: change nothing when it comes to the language. So we

896
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: will need to find, I guess, a new way to

897
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: work out where agriculture fits into climate change. But here's

898
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: the key point that the current government frequented by farmers

899
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: of course by the likes of Andrew Hoggart, that they

900
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: get that the previous government didn't get. When it comes

901
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: to farming, We globally are as good as it gets.

902
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: If we made farming needlessly hard here, we wouldn't produce

903
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: as much, which was always a stupid idea given we

904
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: sell what we make and that's called foreign income, and

905
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: what we don't sell we eat. And if we made

906
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 2: it too hard to farm, we would still need to eat.

907
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: It would simply be grind by somebody else who isn't

908
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 2: as good as we are. What's the point in that?

909
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 2: And then we get to the science of it all,

910
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: punishing people for a problem that science is already and

911
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: will increasingly help, if not address is pointless. The obsession

912
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: around the Pois accord emissions at the expense of all

913
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: else has already played out disastrously, of course, in oil

914
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: and gas and our ability to turn the lights on

915
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: or not on a cold winter's morning. Last thing we

916
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: needed was a drop in agriculture. So the Australian opposition,

917
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: you might have noted already this week, is starting to

918
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: talk about bailing on the parasteel because it's unobtainable. We

919
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: signed up to things we couldn't do, and Labour didn't

920
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: appear to care who they wrecked while chasing that illusion.

921
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: Reality and common sense is back, and not a moment

922
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: too soon, asking Darling Taner Sammy Gaden McCauley yesterday, we're

923
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: getting fobbed off now. So I've told Sammy to call

924
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: them each and every single day, because here's the thing.

925
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 2: They're saying, Oh, there's still nothing and we'd like it

926
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: to be over, and we're just really hoping it'll be

927
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: over soon. And when I'm trying to point out they're

928
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: paying the bills and there'll be a invoice arriving each

929
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: and every week, and they'll be going, jeez, this is

930
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: mounting up isn't it tens of thousands of dollars. Wonder

931
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: do they ask any questions? Where are you at?

932
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 10: Who?

933
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: If you talked to? How many more people do you

934
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: have to talk to? What are they telling you? Is

935
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: there a problem all of these sort of things. The

936
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: lawyer is in the employee of the grit So the

937
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Greens are playing games here and it's becoming a joke.

938
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 2: And I don't think they take themselves seriously. Mike another

939
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: pole another confirming the downwards trend for the government and

940
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: lack of popularity for the Prime minister. And this is

941
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: the most uninspiring labor party of all time in opposition.

942
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: Doesn't this government, with only fifty five percent of support

943
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: at best, run the risk of all the unpopular changes

944
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: they're ramming through urgency rather than ensuring policies that will

945
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: be reversed, like they have done with the labor policies.

946
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: It's not a bad point. If you're a critic of

947
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 2: the government, you can start to mount a not unreasonable case.

948
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: Have you missed the poll yesterday, there's no real change.

949
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: Labors down a smidge, Nationals down almost a couple overall,

950
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: the government are down a couple of seats and the

951
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 2: Opposition are up a couple of seats. But this is

952
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: what we saw in Australia as well with Albin Ezi.

953
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: He's got other problems though, and that's why he's unproperly.

954
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 2: But there was nothing in the budget. So in other words,

955
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: the Australians rolled out some tax cuts, they didn't get

956
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 2: a bounce in the poles. This government rolled out tax cuts,

957
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: they didn't get a bounce in the poles. And Christopher

958
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: Luckxson at some point. It isn't at the moment because

959
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: we're still miles away from an election, but eventually that

960
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 2: time will tick by and if the Prime Minister isn't

961
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 2: more popular than really is, there's going to be an

962
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: issue once again. So his favorability is down to minus

963
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: five and Christopher Hipkins is up to plus three. So

964
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: really we're not dealing with rock stars here either side

965
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: of the campaign, and that is to Luckson's advantage. Having

966
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: somebody as uninspiring as Hipkins actually helps them. But when

967
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: somebody that uninspiring is beating you, there's your problem. So

968
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: things aren't on fire. They talk a good game, they're

969
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: doing some good stuff, it's just not gelling in the

970
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: polls at the moment, so that's potentially a problem ongoing

971
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: right petrol ComCom says we've got an issue. We'll talk

972
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: to the com coom after the news, Big.

973
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: News, the bold opinions, the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar,

974
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: The Art of Performance News Talk said Bi.

975
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: Michael put the government's on popularity down to the constant critique.

976
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: When you say on popularity, I mean you've got to

977
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: use that in loose terms. They're still the most popular

978
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 2: would still be the government, of course, down the constant

979
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 2: critique by media amplifying lefty pressure groups who don't like

980
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: the balance being given back to our country. Nets have

981
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: made some errors and have been rightly criticized, but they're

982
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 2: doing what we voted them in to do. Good news

983
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 2: isn't given attention. It was a very good that last

984
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: points salient yesterday. I told you to look around for

985
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: the ram raid story down eighty percent? Where was it?

986
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was about the place, but

987
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: not not in the way that the bad news is

988
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: the media. I heard it, yeah, exactly on the show

989
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: and Kerry Show and get words because she listened to

990
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: this show and then she runs with it and if

991
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: they were smart, if Simon and James were smart, they

992
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: would have run with it too. Having said all of that,

993
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: it's always the bad news that the media focus on. Unfortunately,

994
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: mikey comments on climate policies and need to yes a

995
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: bang on these pointless polls at the stage ain't the

996
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: worst hypochond look. I tend to agree that that's done

997
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: for corporate clients and they thought therefore they pay for it. Therefore,

998
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: you know, it is what it is. You may as

999
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: well read them and take them for what they are.

1000
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: Mike.

1001
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm part of a team from Lifeline. We're going to

1002
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 2: be at the Field Days for the very first time

1003
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 2: this year. Very excited. Got a special wellness Hume and

1004
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: look forward to having many over these four days. Well,

1005
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: it'll be fantastic. You enjoy that, Mike. The European election

1006
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: results indicate people have had enough of the over aggressive

1007
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: climate change targets, among other things. I think that's probably

1008
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: true that Green's got spent in Europe, and for those

1009
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 2: who support that type of ideology, there are major major

1010
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: concerns as to what they do going forward about climate

1011
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: change now, Mike, to date, all national have done is

1012
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: unbundled the outer carnage wrought by the Labour government. By

1013
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 2: just implementing common sense measures, they need to start getting

1014
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: inspirational and giving struggling Kiwi's hope that life will improve.

1015
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: Twenty two to Way Politics, Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson

1016
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: after eight o'clock this morning, meantime Commerce Commission. As I'm

1017
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 2: sure you're well aware, as way back into the petrol market,

1018
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 2: retailers too quick to put the prices up, too slow

1019
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: to bring them down. The bill for the behavior falls

1020
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: on the punting you and me to the tune of

1021
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars a year. The Commissioner, Brian chapelers with

1022
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: us very good morning morning, Mike. How would you describe

1023
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: the market in Lamer's terms?

1024
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 3: Is this a rut?

1025
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: Are they ripping us off or not?

1026
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 10: Look, I think it's just not as competitive as we'd like.

1027
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 10: We can certainly see competition that's starting to improve. We

1028
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 10: can see more of those unstaffed sites coming in and

1029
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 10: bringing down prices in the areas around them. But this

1030
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 10: study shows, you know, prices going up faster than they

1031
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 10: come down, that you know, there's more work to do.

1032
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 2: Their counter argument, as it always is the complexity of pricing,

1033
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: because we all look at the price of a barrel

1034
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: of oil and go, hats down? Why and so it's

1035
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: much more complex than that. Does your work take that

1036
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: into account?

1037
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 10: Well, A really good thing about this is it just

1038
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 10: looks at increases and decreases and how they get treated.

1039
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 10: And it's over quite a long period of time. So

1040
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 10: this is a pretty robust finding that prices go up

1041
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 10: faster than they come down. I don't think they can escape.

1042
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: That, right, But they would counter it by saying, look,

1043
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: we look at the price of a barrel of oil,

1044
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 2: it's down. Why isn't the price down? And they go well,

1045
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: at the same time the dollar moved as well, or

1046
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: the cost of shipping chain and therefore it all equated out.

1047
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: Do you dismiss that or not?

1048
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, you'd have to say that on average. You know,

1049
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 10: we're looking over several years, so there would have to

1050
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 10: be a systematic change in the exchange rate or oil

1051
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 10: prices or sorry not. You know, there have to be

1052
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 10: a systematic change in some of their costs going in

1053
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 10: different directions to explain this. And I just don't think

1054
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 10: that's credible.

1055
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 2: Okay, is it collusion?

1056
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 10: No, there's no evidence that there's collusion. I think it's

1057
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 10: just a you know, as one of the things factors

1058
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 10: they give. It's they look at local competition, they see

1059
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 10: what others are doing. If they're not forced to lower prices,

1060
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 10: they don't necessarily do that. That's a market.

1061
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 2: Well, why doesn't it work in the sense we had

1062
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: the white time of people on Gull's been a similar

1063
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: sort of player. They go, we're not like them, we

1064
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: are different. We lead the market. If they lead the market,

1065
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: why don't the majors follow?

1066
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 10: Well, they do in the areas where those stations are,

1067
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 10: and so you do see when a new station comes in,

1068
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 10: it brings down prices in that area if it's one

1069
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 10: of those under dark sites. So making it easier for

1070
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 10: them to access fuel, which is what the regulatory regime does,

1071
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 10: and then making it easier for them to open more

1072
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 10: of their stations, which councils have a role in that helps,

1073
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 10: and then US motorists choosing to shop there that forces

1074
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 10: them agors to allow prices to match.

1075
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: Having muddied the waters, I think a little bit. When

1076
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: you talk about the tax rate coming off for Auckland

1077
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: motorists for example, I mean, of course it will come

1078
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: off instantly, won't it Because it's an external input. So

1079
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: in other words, when the tax goes, it goes, it's easy.

1080
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: Whereas what they're arguing is the complexity of day to

1081
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 2: day pricing is way more problematic than that.

1082
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 10: I don't think it's maybeing the waters. I think if

1083
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 10: there's a tendency for prices to come down more slowly

1084
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 10: than they go up, we don't want to see that

1085
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 10: happening when the fuel tex comes off, right.

1086
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: Sure of you saying what you've said, what else can

1087
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 2: be done? What's been the point of this market study,

1088
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 2: of your involvement in the market and all of this,

1089
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: what's actually changed?

1090
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 10: Well, what's actually changed is that companies like Way, Tomo

1091
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 10: and Gull can now more readily get fuel at more

1092
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 10: reasonable prices, and we've seen that they've been much more

1093
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 10: able to open stations than was the case in the past,

1094
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 10: and that that is driving down prices for Kiwi motorists.

1095
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 10: So I think we've got evidence that it is working

1096
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 10: and so perfect, No, but it's.

1097
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 2: Working, Okay, how much does the punter play a part

1098
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 2: in this? In other words, if I wanted to put

1099
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: a bit of energy into it, get a gas by

1100
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: app shop around. There's plenty of competition and there's plenty

1101
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: of price by variability.

1102
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 10: Yep, yep, especially in a place like Auckland.

1103
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 11: Look.

1104
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 10: Terry Collins from the AA's been talking about that in

1105
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 10: the last day or so. He's absolutely right. If everyone

1106
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 10: shops at the lowest price station, the others are going

1107
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 10: to have to match, all right.

1108
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: Brian, appreciate time. Brian Chapel, who's the commissioner at the

1109
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: Commerce Commission, seventeen minutes away from mahasking some unusual Singapore

1110
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: airlines are offering compensation out of the turbulence and normally compensation.

1111
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: I mean it's a nice thing to do and good

1112
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: on them. It's no criticism, just wondering if is this

1113
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: industry precedent or industry norm because they're offering ten thousand

1114
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 2: dollars something of it's about fifteen thousand New Zealand dollars

1115
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: if you sustained minor injuries. This was the flight the

1116
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: other day from London to Singapore, so fifteen thousand dollars

1117
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: if you sustained minor injuries. I don't know how they

1118
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: would quantify that, or whether you need to provide proof

1119
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 2: or I've sprained my ankle, or I got a bruise

1120
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 2: on my knee and it came from my head hitting

1121
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: the cabin above whatever. Anyway, if you had more serious injuries,

1122
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: they're offering an advanced payment of about something about forty

1123
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to address the media to the immediate needs

1124
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 2: further discussions to meet their specific circumstances on cost. I

1125
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 2: get it if you had to incur cost as a result,

1126
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: but just by being there, it wasn't their fault. I mean,

1127
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: unless it's proven to be their fault, but at this

1128
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: point doesn't seem to be their fault. It just seems

1129
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 2: to be turbulence. And if you want to blame anyone,

1130
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: you blame climate change. And what we should have done

1131
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: is closed more coal mines sooner and then the turbulence

1132
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: wouldn't have happened. Then the plane wouldn't have fallen out

1133
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 2: of the skum. But is that standard if you ever

1134
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: been involved in that? Does somebody normally I mean Knight's accommodation,

1135
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: the hotel and some coffee or something like that. But

1136
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 2: that's a lot of money because there's a lot of

1137
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: passengers involved. Sixteen two, The make costing Breakfast or could

1138
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: it be make that by aunditioning out a son may

1139
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: stave off a class action from people that Singapore should

1140
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: have avoided a particular area. I got a lot of

1141
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: text about the Glenn's, Glenn's noddings head, Glen's all over

1142
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theories about roots and how they need to

1143
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: change them. And they got a number of texts at

1144
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: the time about the bay have been gaul and how

1145
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: in the olden days they used to hand out a

1146
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: shot of whiskey as they headed over the bay, have

1147
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: been gall in the monsoon season and all that sort

1148
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: of stuff. Let me just just alert you to all

1149
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 2: of this if you're not a little already. Sport is

1150
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 2: where it's at. It has never been. This is a

1151
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: global thing that's unfolding in media, and people have never

1152
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: really dealt with sport before. We featured Netflix earlier on.

1153
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: They've got this new thing coming up called sprint looking

1154
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 2: for the fastest man in the world. Why are they

1155
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: doing that? Because it's sport? What else are Netflix doing

1156
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 2: at the moment? They're paying money and lots of it, millions,

1157
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars to stream NFL football WNBA

1158
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 2: numbers out yesterday. This is the Women's basketball in America.

1159
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 2: SEID a record viewership for twenty twenty four season, highest

1160
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: game attendance in twenty six years. They get an average

1161
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: of four hundred and sixty two thousand viewers per game

1162
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: these days, highest in twenty six years. Not as much

1163
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: as the men. Still they're in their twenty eighth season.

1164
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: But they cut a deal with ABC, ESPN, ESPN, two, CBSWNBA,

1165
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers, Discovery this morning, Connections in New Zealand obviously

1166
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: along the TNT Sports, they've announced that they've done an

1167
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 2: exclusive deal stolen it off NBC. They're already upping the

1168
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 2: anti on the NBA, the American Basketball. But they've done

1169
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: a deal this morning with the French Open, as in

1170
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 2: the tennis, which we've just been enjoying ten year contract

1171
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: for sixty five million dollars per year. So they're all

1172
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: over sport at the moment. What else have they added recently?

1173
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: They got the National Hockey League, they got the Stanley

1174
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 2: Cup on at the moment of course, the NASCAR, the

1175
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 2: US SoC at the college football playoffs, and now the

1176
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 2: French Open as well. Then also overnight announced Southeby's and

1177
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: fanatics are joining forces now southebes you know the name

1178
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: of who are fanatics. Fanatics are sports trading cards. So

1179
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: they're going to run live online auctions for trading cards

1180
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: value to more than one hundred thousand dollars. This is

1181
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 2: this is genuine business. This is just mucking around in

1182
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 2: your garage for five dollars here and ten doll say

1183
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 2: this is plus one hundred thousand dollars. First live auction

1184
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: in September in New York there's a forty eight leaf

1185
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 2: seventy nine Jackie Robinson, the only true collector's card of

1186
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 2: when he was a rookie. They think that'll go for

1187
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 2: about six seven hundred thousand dollars. So they're leaning into

1188
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: sport as well. So the media is leaning into sport,

1189
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 2: the gaming cards, the auction houses are leaning into sport.

1190
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 2: Women's sports. Sport is booming. Hence, I bring it back

1191
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: to the ongoing conversation around rugby in this country. Why

1192
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: is so much of it booming and other bits and

1193
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: pieces are not? And then that is your conundrum and

1194
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: of course a series of questions. Ten away from eight on.

1195
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 3: My Costkill Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate news Talks be.

1196
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: Given away from it, So more insight into working parents

1197
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 2: and whether they should be entitled to more sickly So

1198
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: Frog Recruitment has polled more than seventeen hundred office workers,

1199
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Speaker 2: nine hundred and sixty nine of which we're working parents

1200
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 2: Now found that six hundred and twenty five are coming

1201
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 2: to work sick because they've run out of leave, and

1202
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 2: forty six percent appearance are using their own sick weave

1203
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: to stay home with an ill child. Now for Recruitment,

1204
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 2: managing director Shannon Barlow is with us. Shannon, very good

1205
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: morning to you.

1206
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 25: Good morning.

1207
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 2: It's the age old problem, isn't it? And the tricky

1208
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: thing with a problem is what do you do? Du

1209
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: do you just hand out more leave? What do you do?

1210
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1211
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 25: I think that businesses just need to be aware of

1212
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 25: the impact and particularly with the incoming changes, that some

1213
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 25: groups of people might be more affected than others. So definitely,

1214
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 25: working parents are more likely to use up the quota of.

1215
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 2: She's gone, you're there, Shannon disappeared off the face of

1216
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: the earth morning. Mike's so sad that the people only

1217
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: have a focus on the price, if you'll never about

1218
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: the quality of service, the safety, the convenience, the cleanliness

1219
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: of the station. It's interesting you should say that because

1220
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that exact same thing yesterday, because

1221
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: the more recent advice is that you go to the

1222
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: unmanned stations, and of course that it's fine because it's

1223
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: cheaper there and stuper there because you don't have to

1224
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 2: pay people, and so we're all about the people until

1225
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: we can save a bit of money. Then suddenly we're

1226
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: not about the people, aren't we? Shannon, Sorry, we interrupted

1227
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: you with technical issues. What were you say?

1228
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 22: All good?

1229
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 25: I was just saying that businesses need to be aware

1230
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 25: that some groups of people, for example, working parents, are

1231
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 25: more likely to use up that quota of sick leaves,

1232
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 25: so just to be aware of that. But I don't

1233
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 25: think that necessarily you need to issue out more than

1234
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 25: the ten days, but to really work together and to

1235
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 25: see something that's going to work well for the people

1236
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 25: as well as for the business as well.

1237
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting your numbers nine sixty nine were working parents.

1238
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 2: Of that six hundred and twenty five, so let's say

1239
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: two thirds were coming to work sick because they've run

1240
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: out of leaves. So that's a lot of leave to

1241
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: run out because between yourself and your kids. Ten days

1242
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: is a not unreasonable amount, isn't it?

1243
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 25: Yeah, definitely. But what we saw there that a big

1244
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 25: proportion we're using their sick leave to care for kids,

1245
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 25: so forty seven percent. So if their children were sick,

1246
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 25: I think there were some worries that you know, worth

1247
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 25: working from home people would take advantage of that and

1248
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 25: they wouldn't really be working, and you know they're spending

1249
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 25: more time on caring. But that's obviously not happening. So

1250
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 25: they're doing the right thing. They can be trusted, but

1251
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 25: it does mean that it's going to eat into that

1252
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 25: sick leave entitlement.

1253
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if the work from home things dissipated it

1254
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: a little bit, given that you know, there'll be a

1255
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 2: number of people who can when they have to work

1256
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: from home and it's no big deal.

1257
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 25: Yeah, definitely, So I think I was really surprised to

1258
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 25: see that the majority, so of that whole group, fifty

1259
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 25: percent had only used from zero so no sick days

1260
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 25: at all, up to three sick days. So again we're

1261
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 25: worried and increasing that entitlement double. No one's ever going

1262
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 25: to be at work, but that's definitely not happening, and

1263
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 25: that's not being abused, so it is that minority that

1264
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 25: eat through the whole ten days. But yeah, it's still

1265
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 25: an issue when you've got to be able to care

1266
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 25: for your final as well as yourself and make sure

1267
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 25: that you're looking after yourself and the others around you

1268
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 25: at work.

1269
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: Good stuff, Shannam, Nice to talk to you. Shannon Balow,

1270
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 2: who's the Frogle recruitment managing director with us this morning.

1271
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: MIC.

1272
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: Historically pilots flew around storms ahead, did they. This changed

1273
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: mid to late nineties as craft was stronger and as

1274
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: a result saves fuel. However, great a chance of wind't you?

1275
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: Thank you Scott for your insight. Now, Politics Wednesday, A

1276
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: couple of things for the Minister of Police specifically, but

1277
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: we'll cover those off. We've got to talk about the poll.

1278
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 2: Of course. I haven't raised on this program and I

1279
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 2: probably should. This news out yesterday this tunnel, this massive

1280
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: tunnel they're looking at in Wellington. A million dollars and

1281
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: counting for consultants, which seems ironic given the last government

1282
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: got a dreadful bagging for the number of consultants they

1283
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: hired in the amount of money they spent, so have

1284
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: been in really changed, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson after.

1285
00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: The news, which is next to you, demanding the answers

1286
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 1: from the decision makers, the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's

1287
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: real estate altogether better across residential, commercial and rural on

1288
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: news talks'd be we would.

1289
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 26: Laugh, you'll be quite getting drunk, getting high when we

1290
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 26: didn't know we with Cheeth in the dong getting lost

1291
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 26: in a song, trying to figure head.

1292
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 2: He's got to send something about him, haven't we? Here

1293
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 2: was a theme to forty years after the group's debut.

1294
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: It comes with a four part documentary, Thank You, good Night,

1295
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: The bond jo the story and it's the Persons of Surgery.

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Speaker 2: We sounds a little bit more robust, reviews say than

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Speaker 2: he used to. So the surgery might be might be

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Speaker 2: a good sense of refinement suits a group who knows

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Speaker 2: that they're a little bit older and a little bit

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Speaker 2: slower than they were forty years ago, but they're grateful

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Speaker 2: to still be happy doing what they've been doing all

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Speaker 2: these decades later.

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Speaker 3: So that's nice. And Jesus, she has done.

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Speaker 2: We will bott seventy it's called for River, twelve tracks,

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Speaker 2: forty eight figures. It's eight minutes past eight. It is

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Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. It's time for the politics Wednesday and Ginny Anderson,

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Speaker 2: along with Mark Mitchell are both with us. Good morning

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Speaker 2: you two, Good morning. A little overarching, I don't want

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Speaker 2: you to wademark into police operations, but just just an

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Speaker 2: oversight here on this Maracopa case eighty thousand dollars reward.

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Speaker 2: First question is how is it possible that this guy can,

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Speaker 2: with three kids, vanish from police and us all for

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Speaker 2: such a sustained period of time.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I agree with you entirely. I think that, and

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Speaker 13: you're right. I don't want to get them too much

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Speaker 13: into operations, but I just find it incredible that he's

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Speaker 13: been able to elude police for this log. There's probably

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Speaker 13: a feeling that maybe he's been assisted in help and

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Speaker 13: getting some help. But obviously the police are ramping things up.

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Speaker 13: They put a reward out there, now, you know, primarily

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Speaker 13: around the children.

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Speaker 2: In your experience, do they put rewards out when they're stuck?

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Speaker 13: Well, the reward because they want to try and generate

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Speaker 13: more support and more information that comes out of the

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Speaker 13: community to help police locate her and of course get

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Speaker 13: the kids speak out. And it can't be good for

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Speaker 13: them at all, So that's why they've done it.

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Speaker 2: Now, Jenny, what do your view as former police minister,

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Speaker 2: when you offer somebody eighty thousand dollars and it may

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Speaker 2: well be a person who's been assisting this particular criminal,

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Speaker 2: and you offer potential immunity, do you sit comfortably with

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Speaker 2: that or does that sit comfortably with you?

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Speaker 27: It is concerning. Offering potential immunity to prosecution is quite

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01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 27: significant and it's not done often, but when concerns are

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Speaker 27: really with children, that's a significant amount of time to

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Speaker 27: be away from other family and it's really concerning regarding

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Speaker 27: the welfare of those kids. So in my view as

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Speaker 27: warranted given the fact that these three kids out there,

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Speaker 27: we don't know where they are and we want to

1340
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Speaker 27: make sure that they're hite okay.

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Speaker 2: And then the second question for you Mark, once again

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Speaker 2: not operationally speaking, but when we hear yesterday this dead

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Speaker 2: baby in Tikawiti, and the dead baby was known previously

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Speaker 2: to police for having a non accidental injury and yet

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Speaker 2: while still with the parents, how does that work?

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Speaker 13: Look Again, again, that is very operational and so that's

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Speaker 13: an ongoing investigation, so it would be I just cannot

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Speaker 13: speak to that, I'll be breaking a whole lot of

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Speaker 13: rules as the Minister of Police. But in a broader sense,

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Speaker 13: I think that there's still work to be done for

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Speaker 13: us as a government in terms of making sure that

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Speaker 13: we've got the legislation and settings right to protect our

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Speaker 13: kids because you know, unfortunately we sort of we're not.

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Speaker 13: We don't in terms of infant fatalities and injuries. It's

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Speaker 13: still completely unacceptable in terms of us as a country

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Speaker 13: and what we're doing with.

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Speaker 2: Correct but Ginny broadened it out then more than I

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Speaker 2: mean can do you? Can you explain why a child

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Speaker 2: would a baby would be injured deliberately and then put

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Speaker 2: back with the parents who did the injury and not

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Speaker 2: taken off the pin. How does that work?

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Speaker 27: It's just heartbreaking every time I read one, I just

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Speaker 27: I can't you know, I can't see them what it

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Speaker 27: would would they like?

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Speaker 14: That?

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Speaker 18: Is?

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Speaker 27: That is the role of tomareki to intervene, to assess

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Speaker 27: risk and make a decision. And it seems like those

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Speaker 27: seatings still aren't right.

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Speaker 2: So you're telling me just sorry, Marke, carry on, Well,

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Speaker 2: I just say.

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Speaker 13: That in relation to I rang the Tamaraiki with Karen

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Speaker 13: Chules come under enormous criticism in the last month because

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Speaker 13: she is putting kids back at the heart of the decisions,

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Speaker 13: not adults, not family, family, the children. They're making sure

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Speaker 13: the children are put somewhere where they're safe, and I

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Speaker 13: think that there hasn't been happening for a while and

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Speaker 13: she is very focused.

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Speaker 16: On that outstanding.

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Speaker 13: Well, well, I'm sorry, Jenny, she is making the changes,

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Speaker 13: and you guys have been attacking and criticizing her, very

1382
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Speaker 13: personal attacks, and I think I beg her one hundred percent.

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Speaker 11: You're doing the right.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So that's it's slightly political. Just just come back

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Speaker 2: to this particular case. So you're telling me, Jenny, so

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Speaker 2: I rang the tamariki going. They know a baby's been

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Speaker 2: and shured, buy the two people, and then they give

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Speaker 2: that baby back to those parents, and that's their call

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Speaker 2: and their call alone.

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Speaker 27: Well, they will have access to information that I don't know.

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Speaker 27: There will be a file on that that child, and

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Speaker 27: there'll be a whole assessment on what the risk is

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Speaker 27: and how to mitigate that risk, and then a decision

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Speaker 27: is made whether to leave the child.

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Speaker 2: With the parents or not.

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Speaker 27: And it's a big decision to up from their parents.

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Speaker 27: That's a huge decision to make, and so this is

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Speaker 27: at the heart of all of these, you know, very

1399
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Speaker 27: big debates that we have without knowing all the particular

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Speaker 27: details of the case, but making that choice for the

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Speaker 27: state to uplift a child is a big one. Well

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Speaker 27: versus the fatalities relate. The rate of fatalities and deaths

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Speaker 27: homicides of babies that we are seeing is still just

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Speaker 27: completely unacceptable. And what worries me even more is what

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Speaker 27: about the ones that lives that have gone through years

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Speaker 27: and years of physical abuse that then grow up to

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Speaker 27: be young people. That there's hundreds and hundreds of those

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Speaker 27: young people in New Zealand. We don't think about those.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Mark, just briefly before the break of the Matters

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Speaker 2: Mary Party investigation, do you welcome that? And does something

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Speaker 2: smell not quite right to you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: I mean I think the Prime Ministers announced that the

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Speaker 13: Public Service Commission is going to do a much broader

1415
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 13: investigation across all the agencies where because you know, it

1416
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 13: is very serious, extremely serious in terms of data breaches

1417
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Speaker 13: and whether or not it's impacted the outcome often elections.

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01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 13: So yes, I do support what he's done. I think

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Speaker 13: it's very important that we do that. It's important that

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Speaker 13: the country has got confidence in our processes and systems.

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Speaker 2: You back at Ginny, it's.

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Speaker 27: Important they do it. I think you are a lot

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Speaker 27: of different agencies being involved, so I think it's good

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01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,880
Speaker 27: the government has initiated a single independent review.

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Speaker 2: Bri break more in a Moment, Jenny Anderson, Mark Mitchell

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Speaker 2: thirteen past.

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Speaker 3: The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson once

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01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: again an operational question mark. You don't have to delve

1430
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: into the specifics of it, but broadly speaking, the bus

1431
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 2: case in Dunedin where the changes have been laid and

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Speaker 2: it was announced yesterday the case will go to court

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. What's going on.

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Speaker 13: Just we've got a mess a backlog in our courts.

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Speaker 13: We've got the whole criminal justice system needs a complete

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01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 13: reset in alignment, and that's that's a big part of

1437
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Speaker 13: the work that we're doing. I agree, it's you know,

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Speaker 13: justice delayed is justice denied, and we've got to get

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Speaker 13: the courts fixed.

1440
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: That's time.

1441
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: But it's June twenty four, it's a year and a half,

1442
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 2: you know, and this is a serious crime. It's not

1443
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,880
Speaker 2: like you know, it's some sort of scrap between a

1444
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 2: couple of millionaires who are bored. This is like, this

1445
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 2: is a crime.

1446
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 13: I agree with you, but sadly, unfortunately, this is what's

1447
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 13: been happening. And you know, I've got as the Corrections Minister,

1448
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 13: I've got fifty percent of the population, our coreactians at

1449
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 13: the moment are on remand you know it's a disgrace.

1450
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 13: We've got to get that fixed. That's why we just

1451
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 13: change legislation that we get to keep deliver programs to them.

1452
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 13: Why they're on remand because they haven't been getting any

1453
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,919
Speaker 13: programs up until now. But look, we've got to fix

1454
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 13: the system without a doubt. We've got to get it

1455
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 13: far better aligned with news technology. There's a lot of

1456
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 13: things that we can do that can actually help with that.

1457
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 13: And there's a lot of going on around that.

1458
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Speaker 2: Is that a mess you left behind, Genny, not as

1459
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: police minister but in general and Justice minister.

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 20: Well, we had a.

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Speaker 27: Really good program in place called Reframe, and it's been

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Speaker 27: not funded.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no no. The twenty twenty six. When you're

1464
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: charged with something serious, it doesn't go to court.

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Speaker 27: That's the point I'm making is that reframe would produce

1466
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 27: better quality evidence at the scene of the crime so

1467
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Speaker 27: that cases don't fall over when they get to court.

1468
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 27: This is still a problem. So the ability to gather

1469
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 27: good quality evidence and submit it means a guilty plea

1470
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 27: the whole case. It's clean given in so.

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Speaker 13: Reframe, they got no idea what it means.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, so to do market that's why you did it,

1473
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: Jinny hold on a simple question. So I get charged

1474
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 2: with something yesterday and I'm not going to court until

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. What's that got to do with reframe?

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Speaker 27: So what would do speed up the court? It's really

1477
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 27: said that Mark doesn't understand this, and this is probably.

1478
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 13: Why it doesn't speed up, But it would speed up.

1479
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 27: The ability for cases to proceed quickly. Sometimes police officers

1480
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 27: and victims are appearing in court fifteen or sixteen times

1481
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 27: before a case is heard. They're delayed and delayed and delayed,

1482
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,080
Speaker 27: and having given earlier on good quality speeds up the process.

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01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 27: And it's a real shame that the Minister of Police

1484
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:26,919
Speaker 27: and Corrections.

1485
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 13: I can assure you, Mike that we're doing real work

1486
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 13: around making sure that the courts world Yeah, using things

1487
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 13: well or jinny, things like using AVL so instead of

1488
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 13: police officers on a Saturday all coming off the street

1489
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 13: gets to the court. Can you AVL to do that

1490
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 13: one of the court rooms that.

1491
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 27: Have can you listen to the room to have the capability.

1492
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 13: And it puts and it puts police officers back on street.

1493
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 13: We're looking real, sensible and pragmatic solutions that will speed

1494
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 13: up our criminal just quick lotles airy, fiery, reframed stuff.

1495
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Speaker 2: Karen McAnulty, Journey fund Karen McAnulty. And this is for

1496
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Speaker 2: costly as well. On your side of the equation, Mark

1497
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 2: Kieran macinaulty claiming his wife's flat. Can we ever get

1498
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: to the bottom of expenses or people who want to

1499
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: bitch about it just going to bitch about it?

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Speaker 13: Well, And Kieren McNulty just needs to be absolutely transparent

1501
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 13: around you know, a piece within the rules and accommodation allows.

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 13: I don't know. I haven't seen, to be honest with you,

1503
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 13: I haven't been following on tracking. But it's important that

1504
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,959
Speaker 13: in piece we save the public, we've got to be transparent.

1505
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 13: It's text bus money.

1506
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: So what do you claim? See Ginny, you don't claim anything,

1507
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: do you? Because you're local okay, so what do you

1508
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 2: what do you claim?

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01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: Mark?

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Speaker 2: Do you six hundred and whatever are dollars a week

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Speaker 2: for a do you? You must own an apartment in Wellington,

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Speaker 2: mustn't you?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 13: Yes, so I have an apartment in Wellington. The first

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01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 13: three years that I was in Wellington in Parliament, I

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Speaker 13: stayed at the Bolton Hotel, and then I decided to

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Speaker 13: buy my own plus here so that I eventually leave

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01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 13: a suit at least stuff down yet.

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Speaker 2: And you claim against that, you claim against the place

1520
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Speaker 2: you own. Yes, and you can. You're comfortable with that

1521
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 2: and their good rules, and that's just the way it is.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 13: Well, I mean if I wasn't doing that, I'd be

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Speaker 13: spending the same the hotel room.

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Speaker 2: See, I mean, Jinny, there's no way around this, isn't

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Speaker 2: I mean? I think mcinaalty's being straight up and down

1527
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Speaker 2: its houses. And his wife's is in his wife's name,

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 2: not his name. He would stay, you know, I mean,

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01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 2: what do we want from MPs? You either travel or

1530
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 2: you don't travel, You stay or you don't. Say that

1531
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: seems sort of stupid.

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Speaker 27: Well it has had, because you know, you do finish

1533
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 27: eleven o'clock plus at night, and if if you're driving

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Speaker 27: in our forty minutes to get home and you do

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Speaker 27: back on site at eight am the next morning, and

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Speaker 27: it's pretty pretty dangerous just to be honest in terms

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01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 27: of you know, if you're going to drive home over

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Speaker 27: the right attackers at midnight and you beck on d

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Speaker 27: K eight am. I just don't think that's a realistic expectation.

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Speaker 2: Now, fair enough to Bolton any good?

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Speaker 13: Make the Bolton's at standing, the Lovely Hotel.

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Speaker 2: Very good next time in Wellington Bolton. That is Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson. It is eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: how speaking of EV's funnily enough for talking to chrstper

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Speaker 2: likes in yesterday the Chinese premiers and the country later

1566
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Speaker 2: on this week are they'll be talking about the Orchist.

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Speaker 2: They'll be talking about the CPTPP and the possibility that

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Speaker 2: China can get into that particular arrangement. But of course

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Speaker 2: they will fail at the hurdle. As has been sort

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Speaker 2: of politely discussed, some of their trading habits are not

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01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 2: to the like, and this will be played out in

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Speaker 2: Europe later on this week. They're expecting any day now

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Speaker 2: for provisional tarists to go on Chinese evs in that

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Speaker 2: particular part of the world. They think twenty five to

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Speaker 2: thirty percent, but there's a forty percent probability they're going

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01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 2: to be thirty to fifty percent. So, in other words,

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: the argument is that the Chinese government are tipping money

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Speaker 2: into the manufacturing side of the equation and making the

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Speaker 2: cars unrealistically affordable, suspiciously affordable, so affordable that somebody goes, hm,

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure you can make a car that cheap,

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 2: but anyway, that's the way it's going to be. Somebody

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01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 2: suggested actually the other day that the teriffs would need

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01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 2: to be in excess of fifty percent for the Chinese

1584
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,680
Speaker 2: manufacturers to go geez, that's a bit much. We'll have

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01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 2: to do something about that. And equally, this morning, next

1586
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 2: time you buy bananas, think about where your money's going.

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Speaker 2: The court in the States this morning are Chiquita bananas,

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Speaker 2: very famous Chiquita bananas. They are liable, according to the

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Speaker 2: States in the court for financing a Colombian peria military group.

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01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: It's the United Self Defense Forces of Colombia. The auc

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 2: ORC designated by the US as a terrorist organization. A

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Speaker 2: civil case brought by eight Colombian families whose relatives were

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 2: killed by ORC Chiquita have been ordered to pay let

1594
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Speaker 2: Me do It sixty million and damages to the families.

1595
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: They intend to appeal, but for now anyway, they've lost

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Speaker 2: so reputationally. Not good for bananas this morning. I wouldn't

1597
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Speaker 2: have thought Steve Price across the Tasman after the News,

1598
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Speaker 2: which is next on the Mike Hosking.

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Speaker 1: Wreckst your trusted source for news and use the Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with Avida Live the age you feel news

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Speaker 1: talk said be you.

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Speaker 2: Hadn't caught up with the Chestnut story and the sports

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01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: news this morning. Joey Chestnuts been banned from the Nathan

1604
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 2: hot Dog eating contest that we cover every year July

1605
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 2: the fourth. It's one of those stories that just floats

1606
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: around annually. He's won it for sixteen years, was going

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Speaker 2: for a seventeenth anyway. What I didn't know Nathan's is

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Speaker 2: a brand of hot dog. He's gone to another hot

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Speaker 2: dog company. He was paid two hundred thousand dollars just

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Speaker 2: front up right each year. So if you think about it,

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01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 2: that's all you needed in life, and two hundred thousand

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01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 2: dollars many people as very good salary. All you need

1613
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 2: to do is literally front up once a year and

1614
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: that was it practice during the year. Short warmed yourself up,

1615
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: stuff like that. But there's your salary for the year.

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Speaker 2: And he was offered over a longer term deal. I

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01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: think it was for teen years one point two million

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Speaker 2: as well. So there's money to be made in gluttony.

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: So he's anyway, he's not in and he's gone off

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Speaker 2: to some other place and they're going to put stick

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Speaker 2: it on Netflix, is what I's been telling you before.

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Speaker 3: Support.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's into sport. They cannot get at sport. It's sport, sport,

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01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: it's sport. Twenty two minutes away from.

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Speaker 21: Nine international correspondence with endsit eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 21: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Right and stay past morning to you.

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Speaker 12: It'spring of sport. I watched a Netflix documentary on the

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Speaker 12: invasion of Wembley during the twenty twenty euro Cup Final,

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Speaker 12: which is well worth a look.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, I shall look it up. This Dutton thing.

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Speaker 2: It's funny. You should mention this because I won't bore

1634
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: you witless. But we've got the whole what we call

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Speaker 2: the emissions trading scheme. We've had an argument over whether

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 2: agriculture is going to be part of it. If they

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01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: are going to be part of it, how do we

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Speaker 2: price methane YadA, YadA, YadA, all part of Paris, and

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Speaker 2: whether or not we're ever going to reach the target.

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Speaker 2: And I think you are right because you called it early.

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01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 2: Dutton's onto something with this because I think that the

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Speaker 2: chances of people believing we're going to get there is

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01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: diminishing by the day, isn't it.

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Speaker 12: And Peter Dutton has now set us up for a

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Speaker 12: climate war election. There's no doubt that he came out

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Speaker 12: at the weekend and then again yesterday. What he's basically

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Speaker 12: said is, look, you can stay signed up to Paris.

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01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 12: You can talk about twenty fifty and net zero by then. Okay,

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Speaker 12: I know that my previous government signed this, but as

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Speaker 12: for twenty thirty, you can forget it. You're not going

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 12: to get there. So why do we keep trying to

1652
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 12: bash the economy to get to reach a target that

1653
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 12: we're never going to achieve? And so that immediately triggered

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01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 12: a second day in a row media conference from the

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Speaker 12: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi. He initially came out to talk

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Speaker 12: about what we'll speak about next is the Chinese premier visiting,

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01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 12: but he quickly turned on Dutton and he has started

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01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 12: to try and rip apart Dutton's climate change credentials. He's

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01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,600
Speaker 12: basically saying that Dutton's going to ruin the world and

1660
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 12: it's all dreadful. But Peter Dutton simply said, look, you

1661
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 12: can please all the people you like in Paris, that's fine,

1662
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 12: but I'm going to take care of people at home now.

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01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 12: If that's not a powerful election message, basically, when the

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01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 12: strate is in a recession and people can't afford to

1665
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 12: put food on the table and their power bills through

1666
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 12: the roof, I don't know what is. And this is

1667
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 12: aimed interestingly at outer suburban seats that the Coalition needs

1668
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 12: to win off labor, which don't have great margins that

1669
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 12: surround the cities of Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne. It's a

1670
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 12: pretty basic political strategy. But if he can pull it off,

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01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 12: he's a genius. If he doesn't, and Albanezi will fight

1672
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 12: all the way to the election. So this blokes at

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01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 12: climate criminal. Then he's not going to win. But you've

1674
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 12: now got a choice. Now you can back potentially nuclear

1675
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 12: down the road and reality in the meantime, or you

1676
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 12: can go for lots of wind turbines and solar panels

1677
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 12: and hope that you get some target that's going to

1678
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 12: please somebody not here.

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01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: See, he's got an increasingly good suite of ite. And

1680
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 2: so you got your nuclear, you've got your climate, you've

1681
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: got the cock up of the government, and all the

1682
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: people have been let out of jail, and then you've

1683
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 2: got the cost of living crisis going on. Between all

1684
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 2: of that, you should be able to package up something

1685
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: in a campaign that points to the government not being

1686
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: very good.

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Speaker 12: Yes, and you won't get The Reserve Bank won't cut

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01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 12: interest rates in Australia until next year. Most economists are

1689
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 12: saying the first quarter of twenty twenty five. So if

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 12: Anthony Albneasy, as I'm increasingly GUESSINGSN decides to go to

1691
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 12: an election, probably in early December, then there won't be

1692
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:28,640
Speaker 12: a rate cut. So you've got the thirteen interest rate

1693
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 12: rises in the row as well as ammunition.

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: A Chinese premier coming here going there. I mean, jeez,

1695
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: what a contrast in terms of relationship given Barley and

1696
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: wine and beef and Morrison and COVID and all that

1697
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 2: sort of stuff.

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01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 12: Yeah, look, I mean Anthony Aberneze is very pleased that

1699
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 12: the Chinese premier is coming.

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01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 13: He's only here for a few days.

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01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 12: Interesting itinery he's going to Camber obviously have a state

1702
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 12: dinner with Anthony albit Easy at Parliament House in the

1703
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 12: Great Hall.

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01:18:57,960 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 3: While he's here.

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01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 12: But the other player as he's going and not Melbourne,

1706
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 12: not Sydney. He's going to Adelaide and going to Perth

1707
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 12: now as a former Adelaide and I can only presume

1708
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,880
Speaker 12: he's going to go there and talk to the state

1709
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,839
Speaker 12: coming about those pandas. Did you know we had Chinese

1710
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 12: pandas and the Adelaide zoo that have never been able

1711
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 12: to procreate. They're on loan and there's been some great

1712
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 12: fear that the Chinese want to come and get them back.

1713
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 13: I presume with.

1714
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 12: Premier League going to Adelaide, he's going to say, oh,

1715
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 12: no notice, you can keep your pandas, but we want

1716
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 12: your lobsters. Because South Australia is a huge producer of lobsters,

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01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 12: which have been banned in China, so they open the

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01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:36,640
Speaker 12: lobsters up. Then he goes to Perth. Why would a

1719
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,800
Speaker 12: Chinese politician.

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01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 3: Go to Wa.

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01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 12: Well, he's going to go and see the trains and

1722
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Speaker 12: ships full of iron or that keep pouring out of

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Speaker 12: Wa to go to the Chinese steel works.

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Speaker 2: That's why exactly all right now the fourteen yard gee

1725
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: Melbourne such a classy place. So you've got the fourteen

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01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: year old on a crime spree after being bailed.

1727
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Speaker 12: He's one of the worst child offenders. Three hundred and

1728
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,600
Speaker 12: eighty eight charges have been struck out because of his

1729
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 12: age because in under new laws in this state, it

1730
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 12: can't be a criminal at fourteen. His latest spree listen

1731
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 12: to their six burglaries in six hours, stole a woman's

1732
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 12: car at nine point, broke into a couple's home as

1733
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 12: their baby slept. This bloke or this teenager his escaped

1734
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 12: from residential care twenty three times since December, accused of

1735
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 12: being among a group that smashed into booze and lotto

1736
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 12: shops with a sledgehammer. Police stopped the stolen car then

1737
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 12: found a sledgehammer inside. The boy, who has extremely limited

1738
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 12: moral reasoning according to the court, as well connected sort

1739
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 12: bail again in April. Here's the zinger. The magistrate refused

1740
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 12: his most recent bail. We'd heard the team who is

1741
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 12: on a refugee visa had already committed three hundred and

1742
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 12: eighty eight criminal charges since May.

1743
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 2: So what do you do with them? If you can't

1744
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: charge them or will block them up, what do you

1745
01:20:57,160 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 2: do with them? Obviously get them out.

1746
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 12: Hope you lock your door and he doesn't turn up

1747
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,560
Speaker 12: at your place. And it's just ridiculous. He can't be

1748
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,520
Speaker 12: held criminally responsible.

1749
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: It's just crazy amazing. All right, might go, We'll see

1750
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 2: next week. Steve Price out of Australia. Who cares Mike

1751
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 2: about the Paris Agreement. It's non binding. Well, a lot

1752
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 2: of people care about it. That's the point, and that's

1753
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 2: why it's so political a lot of people. It's non binding.

1754
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: Of course, it's non binding. The EU election results show

1755
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 2: people rebelling on unreasonable policy. That point was made earlier

1756
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 2: on in the program, and I think there's something in it.

1757
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,679
Speaker 2: I think you can take a broad based idea thrash

1758
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 2: it so hard in the interim period it becomes clearly unrealistic.

1759
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 2: And we're talking about the farmers and the emissions, and

1760
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 2: you're talking about the renewable energy that doesn't work in

1761
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: the cold winter mornings and all those sort of things,

1762
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: and as it becomes increasingly unrealistic, you think, well, what's

1763
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 2: the point. How much damage do we do with the economy.

1764
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: Dutton appears to have worked that out and it seems

1765
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: to be milking it for all it's worth eight forty

1766
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 2: five the costly racers just last night speaking of renewables.

1767
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: Last night on a current affair in Australia, about three

1768
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: and a half million Australians had the solar on their roof.

1769
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 2: They received money from the power companies. That's all about

1770
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: to change. It's calling a sun tax, or what they're

1771
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: calling a sun tax. The power companies are soon going

1772
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 2: to I've told you about this on the program before,

1773
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 2: but Channel nine just caught up with the last night,

1774
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 2: which is ironic given there there and I'm here. But nevertheless,

1775
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: the power companies are going to charge you now. So

1776
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 2: if you remember back to the original argument, will subsidize

1777
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 2: you into solar power. And the good thing is that

1778
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: you can take that solar power and you can give

1779
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 2: it back to the network and the network will pay

1780
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 2: you money for it and you think, oh, how fantastic

1781
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 2: is this. Well, all of that happened till it didn't.

1782
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 2: And so what happened to so many people went and

1783
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 2: got solar panels, which is fantastic if that's what you

1784
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 2: want to do, But then that disrupted the market to

1785
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: such an extent that the power companies thought, hold on,

1786
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: we can't afford to be paying people for this because

1787
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 2: we're not selling enough power anymore. Because we're not we

1788
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 2: don't have enough customers because they've all gone and got

1789
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 2: solar panels. So I'll tell you what we'll do. I know,

1790
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: we'll charge the customers. Marcus, who was on it last

1791
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: night on the television program, it's ridiculous now that they

1792
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: encouraged you to do solo for fifteen years and now

1793
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 2: they're going to smack us and we can't export it anymore.

1794
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:03,879
Speaker 2: So Marcus should have read the fine print thought it through.

1795
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 14: Before he actually, I mean, it's only on sunny days

1796
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 14: that there happens.

1797
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 2: It's exactly, there are sunny days in Australia and there

1798
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 2: we come to Taiwan. Three major outages power in the

1799
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 2: last seven years, slew of smaller disruptions in the past year,

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01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 2: they'reinto an electricity what they're calling a crunch. Taiwan relies

1801
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 2: on imports for over ninety seven percent of their energy needs.

1802
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 2: Mainly it's coal, mainly its gas. Here's the problem with it.

1803
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty two there were three hundred and

1804
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 2: thirteen think about how many days in the year. There

1805
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 2: were three hundred and thirteen power outage incidents. Big one

1806
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 2: last year affected five million households. Another big one in

1807
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen affected seven million households. Aging grid, and what

1808
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: are they that's important when it comes to power. They

1809
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: are the world's biggest semiconductor powerhouse, so they make more semiconductors.

1810
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 2: But you need power to make semiconductors, and a lot

1811
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: of it. So they run this weird system. I didn't

1812
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: realize this part. So they've got an aging grid that's

1813
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 2: bad enough, and as a result of Taiwant's underpriced electricity

1814
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: bills drives demand and leads to supply shortfalls. In other words,

1815
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 2: they make electricity super cheap, so you use more often.

1816
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 2: They can't produce more. They recently hike their electricity rates

1817
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: by fifteen percent for large industrial users made no difference.

1818
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 2: The Taiwan Power Company or Thaie Power have been racking

1819
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: up losses for years. Their reported pre tax loss just

1820
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: last year was six point three billion dollars losing money,

1821
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: and the year before it was even bigger. So the

1822
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: provider loses money. They haven't got enough power. They bring

1823
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: all the coal and the gas in to make the power,

1824
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: the power goes out and the world's relying on them

1825
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 2: to make semiconductors.

1826
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 14: So what we need to do is pair them up

1827
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 14: with the Australian people who've got solar panels on their roof.

1828
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 2: If we can give themselves solar panel from Kuba PD

1829
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:51,799
Speaker 2: to Taiwan, match made in Electricity Heaven nine to nine.

1830
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 3: The Mike Cosking Breakfast where the Januar news to b.

1831
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: Becoming a totalitarian state. It's my great sadness around Hong Kong.

1832
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: Somebody text me last time I raised this on the program,

1833
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: when I suggested that Hong Kong was being ruined by

1834
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 2: the Chinese. They textas said, you don't notice, I'm not

1835
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 2: sure that's true. British judge is resigned overnight from Hong

1836
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 2: Kong's highest court warned the city you're slowly becoming a

1837
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 2: totalitarian state. They're becoming compromised by an impossible political environment

1838
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: created by a China This guy called Lord Sumpton. He's

1839
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 2: the third senior foreign judge in the past week resigned

1840
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,720
Speaker 2: from the Court of Final Appeal. Problem in Hong Kong

1841
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,560
Speaker 2: has been building up over the last four years, and

1842
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 2: I think all the judges on the court feel concerned

1843
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 2: about this. How to ruin a place in one easy

1844
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: lesson used to be a martyr space I'm just not

1845
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 2: convinced it is any more. Five minutes away from nine.

1846
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 21: Trending now West Warehouse for the whole of big brand skincare.

1847
01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: Now, this is interesting because a bit of being made

1848
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 2: about this this morning, and it goes to the I

1849
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,640
Speaker 2: suppose the complexity of the news cycle. So this is

1850
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,439
Speaker 2: Kevin Spacey. He's appeared with I think he's on Twitter

1851
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: these days, Xisney Morgan keeping it with pers Morgan on

1852
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 2: YouTube of course YouTube and X because he was on

1853
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 2: wherever he was and he's quit and moved on to

1854
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,960
Speaker 2: them on the internet. He's admitted in the interview that

1855
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 2: he did, in fact get too handsy. Now that's not new,

1856
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 2: and I know the Herald headline this morning is saying

1857
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 2: shock interview confession. It's not a shock at all unless

1858
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 2: he's saying something I haven't heard before. But he's freely

1859
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 2: admitted he was too handsy before touch someone sexually when

1860
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 2: they didn't want him to. He's been acquitted on all

1861
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: these charges. But he's talking about when the allegations are

1862
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: first thrown at you in twenty seventeen, the bill's quickly

1863
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 2: wracked up.

1864
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 12: Where'd you live?

1865
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 28: No, Well, it's funny you asked that question, because this

1866
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 28: week where I have been living in Baltimore is being

1867
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 28: foreclosed on. My house is being sold at auction. Really,

1868
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 28: so I have to go back to Baltimore and put

1869
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 28: on my things in storage. Why is it being foreclosed

1870
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 28: because I can't pay the bills that I owe? How

1871
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 28: much money do you have?

1872
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: None? I still owe a lot of legal bills.

1873
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 2: Do you mind me asking how much you are?

1874
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,719
Speaker 3: Millions? Many millions?

1875
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 7: Yes?

1876
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:17,439
Speaker 9: What are you going to do?

1877
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Get back on the horse.

1878
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: See that's the interesting thing about the whole Kevin Spacey

1879
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: story if you followed it, and you should, because I

1880
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: have been going on for a good number of years now,

1881
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: and at some point you've got to feel, at least

1882
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: in part sorry for him. If for no other reason.

1883
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: No one's stuck a thing on him. There have been

1884
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 2: any number of allegations and nothing has stuck. And when

1885
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 2: nothing sticks, what's the artworking of it? And the artworking

1886
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: is his life is ruined. So it seems very easy

1887
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 2: to go, yeah, he did this, he did that, he

1888
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 2: did the next thing from what I and I don't

1889
01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 2: know the guy from a bar, reside from what I've done.

1890
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 2: In all my reading of it, he was clearly an overt, flirtatious,

1891
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: probably at times repugnant operator in social settings. But that

1892
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 2: doesn't make you a criminal, but it would appear now

1893
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: he's seen as a criminal. The fact that he's not

1894
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: been found guilty of anything anywhere doesn't seem to matter

1895
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: to anybody, and his life's tipped up. And so now

1896
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: there's a movement in Hollywood where a number of people

1897
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 2: are getting on board and saying, we'll hold on. If

1898
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: you've got nothing and there is no criminal conviction, then maybe,

1899
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:23,640
Speaker 2: you know, we want to give him a break, and

1900
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: if he wants to work, he should be able to

1901
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 2: get back to work and do some stuff. It's far

1902
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 2: from over, too, is the other interesting thing about that.

1903
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Back tomorrow morning, there's always Happy Days.

1904
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:42,360
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1905
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:45,559
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