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Speaker 2: Edbury and Welcome today the new Booze Rules. We are

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Speaker 2: Good for Friday seven past six. I tell you what

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Speaker 2: I get a sense this week. And it's not because

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Speaker 2: it's about to be spring, although that will undoubtedly help.

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Speaker 2: But I got a sense this week that the tide

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Speaker 2: on the New Zealand story is turning. The ongoing stats

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Speaker 2: like the size of the infrastructure pipeline, more money this year,

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Speaker 2: more money and projects for years to come are the

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Speaker 2: new visas and the visas that are working better than

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Speaker 2: we thought. Those gold visas, money, jobs and culture are

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Speaker 2: on their way. But the gold medal goes to the

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Speaker 2: dawning realization that we are about to outgrow, outperform Australia,

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Speaker 2: and not just next year, for a number of years.

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Speaker 2: The stats have been there. I mean the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 2: and that number is below ours, which is about two

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Speaker 2: and a halfish percent, maybe more. But put it together

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Speaker 2: as Westpac did, called it a report, lay it out

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Speaker 2: for all to see, and pennies start dropping. And why

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Speaker 2: it's so important is a lot of our plight is

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Speaker 2: as much mental as it is physical. Australia has a

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Speaker 2: myriad of real issues, believe me, from housing to debt

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Speaker 2: to transport to race. We do too, but they've never

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Speaker 2: us back is too many have decided that we're stuffed,

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Speaker 2: so they left, but left for what? What is the

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Speaker 2: psychology of moving countries? Pay or pay? You say, well, yes,

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Speaker 2: can be, but not always, And I'll tell you this

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Speaker 2: for nothing. The pay gap does not bridge the house gap.

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Speaker 2: But do those leaving realize that, or they don't care,

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Speaker 2: or they don't even know. Obviously, what bogged it down

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Speaker 2: this year was the survived to twenty five thing starter

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Speaker 2: well in January never took off, so we were what

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Speaker 2: sold a lemon of false dawn. What this report this

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Speaker 2: week does though, and as not alone. There's plenty of

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Speaker 2: material out there if you hunt for it. But what

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Speaker 2: the report does is quantify our reality. Between the law changes,

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Speaker 2: the visas, the farmers, the currency, all the fixes and reforms.

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Speaker 2: It adds up to an irrefutable picture of change that

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Speaker 2: is about to pay dividends. The pieces seem to be

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Speaker 2: fitting together, but the prize is they paint a better

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Speaker 2: picture than our nearest neighbor, our greatest friends, our biggest opponent.

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Speaker 2: We're not just beating anyone. We are beating Australia. And

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Speaker 2: when that comes to pass, watch the mood. Then what

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Speaker 2: news of the world. In ninety seconds, the wall's taking

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Speaker 2: a turn, while Gede lines up Kim and bled for

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Speaker 2: a meeting as something Trump clearly can't do. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the Russians have gone at Key, have killed nineteen. This

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Speaker 2: bloke lost his wife and son.

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Speaker 3: We went down to the basement shelter with the children.

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Speaker 3: They survived. My daughter, my youngest son and I are

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Speaker 3: still here. But the two of them, they didn't come down.

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Speaker 3: They didn't come down. Then the strike hit and they

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Speaker 2: Outraged in the EU, given their facilities got hit.

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Speaker 4: I'm outraged by the attack on chief also hitting our

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Speaker 4: EU officers. This was the deadliest drone and missile attack

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Speaker 4: on the capital since July.

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Speaker 2: Brits are trying to work out whether it was deliberate

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Speaker 5: We don't actually have the details yet to say whether

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Speaker 5: this was a targeted attack or not, and whether that

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Speaker 5: was just the coincidence. I think you know, we have

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Speaker 5: operated in Ukraine over the last thirty years and we

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Speaker 5: will continue.

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Speaker 2: To operate there as far as Minneapolis goes. Details around

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Speaker 2: the killer he allegedly regretted being trained, had a lot

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Speaker 2: of height going on.

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Speaker 6: What we have found so far, unfortunately, is what has

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Speaker 6: been all too common in this country. This is an

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Speaker 6: individual that harbored a whole lot of hate towards many

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Speaker 2: A couple of things in the UK when Trump is

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Speaker 7: The reality is Donald Trump is the one person who

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Speaker 7: could stop the horrible famine in Guardza City, could get

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Speaker 7: the hostages released, could bring an end to this whole

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Speaker 2: And they're still partying hard in Grimsby Town after they've

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Speaker 2: bundled their manu out of the Carabell Cup.

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Speaker 8: The crowd definitely played that part.

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Speaker 9: I thought it was.

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Speaker 2: Magnificent and that's what it takes. That's what it takes

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Speaker 10: The size and statue of manchesterinitid and we.

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Speaker 2: Do it together. Tell you what if you haven't seen it,

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Speaker 2: even if you're not a football fan, the penalty shootout

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Speaker 2: David Avid lyathes in ninety seconds, US Economy come on in.

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Speaker 2: So this is a very good day for Trump. This

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Speaker 2: two three point three. Is that good? Damn right? It

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Speaker 2: Cippy Central Banking Korea two and a half percent cash right,

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Speaker 2: Fourteen past six Friday from j My Wealth Andrew Kellahgur morning,

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Speaker 2: very good morning, mind. Oh I see some life here,

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Speaker 11: So we'll take that, shall we Yeah, we got some

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Speaker 11: every month, which is the AID Business Outlook, at least yesterday.

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Speaker 11: that up to fifty. It means fifty percent of respondents

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Speaker 11: fifty basis points in interest rates. It's not material really

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Speaker 2: That already as well.

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Speaker 2: But it's a good sign. Okay, work me through in

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Speaker 11: Market seems to be looking through it. So you know,

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Speaker 11: It's still going gangbusters and the AI theme is still

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Speaker 11: very much evident. Numbers please, So in that light of that,

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Speaker 11: Shanghai composite been quite volatile this week, up another one percent.

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Speaker 2: Why did the government need to own and run farms?

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Speaker 2: It's not a bad question, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Good to hear you finally being positive about our plight,

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Speaker 2: Are we on the track? I mean, I'm trying to

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Speaker 13: Well, look, there is a there is a good pipeline.

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Speaker 2: Exactly well said, you have a good weekend. Appreciate it

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Speaker 2: stood for something more than transportation. It's all about presence

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Speaker 2: and status and quiet confidence. It's a name that's come

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Speaker 2: to mean refinement with our compromise, elegance with purpose. It's

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Speaker 2: a brand that turned its place in the driveways of

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Speaker 2: royalty and rebels and tastemakers and trailblaze. Everyone loves a

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Speaker 2: rain driver in this country. Very popular, very early on,

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Speaker 2: embraced not for just where it could go, but for

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Speaker 2: what it said about the people who drive it. And

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Speaker 2: rain drivers never shouted, doesn't need to because true icons,

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Speaker 2: they don't follow the trends. They defined them. So over

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Speaker 2: the decades it's remained unmistakable. For fifty five years, rain

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Speaker 2: Drover has led by example. And your rain Drover, your

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Speaker 2: new rain Drover is available anywhere around the country. Get

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Speaker 2: your local rain Drover retailer asking morning, Mike, love you,

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Speaker 2: show I see the TV one's new political pile on

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Speaker 2: against Erika Stanford has begun transparent pricks. Shall I tell

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Speaker 2: the story Sam is quaking in his boots? I've got

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Speaker 2: I have a story about that, and I'm not allowed

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Speaker 2: to tell it.

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Speaker 8: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

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Speaker 8: Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, Morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Good you like so?

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Speaker 2: Let me gives a lot of grief, a lot of hugs,

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Speaker 2: a lot of tears, and yet another debate about gunbules.

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Speaker 17: Familiar story. A President Trump has ordered that flags around

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Speaker 17: his country flat half mass because of the deadly shooting

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Speaker 17: attack on children praying at a Catholic school in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 17: Two children, one age eight and the other ten were

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Speaker 17: killed when the young shooter opened fire through staining house

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Speaker 17: windows during mass at the school. Eighteen other people have

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Speaker 17: been wounded, of whom one is critical at the minute.

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Speaker 17: Two others remain in serious condition. A ten year old

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Speaker 17: named Weston, who was in this place, has told of

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Speaker 17: another child saving his life by covering him.

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Speaker 8: My friend are hit in the back, who's like right

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Speaker 8: beside me? I was like two seats away from the

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Speaker 8: stein glass windows. I think I got a gunpowder on

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Speaker 8: my neck.

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Speaker 17: This is a ten year old. This is what he

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Speaker 17: is living with. He says, he thinks his friend is okay.

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Speaker 17: That remains unclear. The person who is critical as touch

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Speaker 17: and go, and while doctors want to confirm it, this

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Speaker 17: could be the one who saved this boy's life. How

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Speaker 17: does a ten year old live with this? How do

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Speaker 17: all the children who just went through this terror live

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Speaker 17: with this? We're hearing a lot of folks offering thoughts

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Speaker 17: and prayers, which has become kind of cliche in these

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Speaker 17: off repeated situations. The local mayor, Jacob Frye is saying

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Speaker 17: of this response.

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Speaker 18: Don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers right now.

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Speaker 14: His kids were literally praying.

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Speaker 17: Prayers are righteous, he says, But do something is his message,

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Speaker 17: says Carla Maldonado, whose child survived this.

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Speaker 19: My mind is going everywhere like this is not the

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Speaker 19: first time. I'm not the first parents to express these concerns.

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Speaker 19: I'm not the first mom to say how many more

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Speaker 19: kids have to get killed? And so it's a little

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Speaker 19: bit like this is feeling like a broken record and

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Speaker 19: it's not okay.

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Speaker 17: You wouldn't know it from the deafening silence from many

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Speaker 17: politicians a broken record, She says, I just pulled up

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Speaker 17: a list of mass shootings at churches and other places

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Speaker 17: of worship here over the past decade. It is a

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Speaker 17: type page full of them, including the mass shooting at

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Speaker 17: the Message Church in Charleston ten years back by a

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Speaker 17: twenty one year old white supremacist where he murdered nine

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Speaker 17: worshipers and a preacher after praying with them for about

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Speaker 17: an hour. Do you think of other situations Sandy Hook,

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Speaker 17: which Obama called the worst moment of his presidency, where

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Speaker 17: twenty six people were shot dead at an elementary school,

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Speaker 17: including twenty children, many ages six and seven. Is that

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Speaker 17: young enough? David Hogg survived the mass shooting at Parkland

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Speaker 17: in Florida, where a shooter killed seventeen students and staff

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Speaker 17: seven years ago. He now has become an activist on

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Speaker 17: the gun subject and says to the president, now.

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Speaker 18: My message to Donald Trump is that you are a coward, sir.

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Speaker 18: You are not going to do anything about this issue

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Speaker 18: because you were terrified of the na even though you

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Speaker 18: have the power to save tens of thousands of lives.

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Speaker 18: You were the strongest president in modern American history with

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Speaker 18: a chokehold over your party and both chambers of Congress.

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Speaker 18: You have the power to end this, but you are

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Speaker 18: not going to because you're a damn coward.

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Speaker 17: Media coverage of these tragedies is often similar. As you've indicated,

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Speaker 17: it could have been worse. The shooter who took his

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Speaker 17: own life had tried to get into the chapel days earlier.

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Speaker 17: We now find the shooter was trans and traveled a monster,

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Speaker 17: says the White House that they're briefing today. U Yet

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Speaker 17: he was able to buy several weapons legally in recent days.

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Speaker 17: How do you buy several weapons or within days without

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Speaker 17: raising any concerns?

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Speaker 16: You know?

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Speaker 17: The shooter left violent social media posts, as so many do, unheeded.

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Speaker 17: The Murdoch New York Post is emphasizing the trans aspect,

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Speaker 17: which flows into their politics. Let me close with this.

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Speaker 17: A new survey shows that in the past year here

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Speaker 17: there were at least ninety one shootings on score grounds.

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Speaker 17: That is almost twice a week. That's what children here

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Speaker 17: are living with. The leading cause of death for children

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Speaker 17: and teenagers in this country is not illness, it's not accidents,

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Speaker 17: it is gun violence.

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Speaker 2: See you Monday Man. Richard Arnold stateside a couple of

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Speaker 2: other quick things. Manairez susan CDC director. She got sacked yesterday,

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Speaker 2: as you're well aware, she says this morning she's still

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Speaker 2: there and going nowhere. So that's interesting. Meantime, Ms Cook

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Speaker 2: at the FED has officially sued the president. Then we

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Speaker 2: get to the embarrassment yesterday out of Australia. I was

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Speaker 2: pleased to have the opportunity, said Richard Miles, to reaffirm

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Speaker 2: Australia's commitment to building on this partnership with the US

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Speaker 2: Vice President Jade Vance and Secretary of Defense Pete Hicksseth

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Speaker 2: in Washington today Miles's and Washington, he claims to have

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Speaker 2: had meetings with Higseth and Vance. The Pentagon has officially

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Speaker 2: denied that Marles the Defense Minister, had any sort of

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Speaker 2: meeting at all, and the photograph was a happenstance encounter.

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Speaker 2: It lasted about ten minute minutes. There was no meeting,

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Speaker 2: so they flick up the So anyway, that's unfolding as

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Speaker 2: a fairly large level of embarrassment. Murray olds with US

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Speaker 2: after eight thirty ten to seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Togs

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Speaker 1: they'd be Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The adrianare reference, it's the weirdest thing. Slowly but surely,

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Speaker 2: drip drip, drip, drip drip through the official information that

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Speaker 2: we find out that basically Adrian or was just a

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Speaker 2: massive egotist. So the latest is there was the rumors

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Speaker 2: and later confirmed. He had a big bust up with Treasury,

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Speaker 2: had a big bust up with Nikola Willis. The board

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Speaker 2: wrote to him and said, mate, can you tone it down?

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Speaker 2: And he said, get stuffed, And it was all over

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Speaker 2: the business of the funding from the government. He didn't

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Speaker 2: think he could run the Reserve Bank on less than

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Speaker 2: a billion dollars. He said, mate, full your head. And

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Speaker 2: so they wrote to him and he agreed to quit.

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Speaker 2: This is all happening in early March. Rejecting the assertions

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Speaker 2: from the board, the board wrote, he said, look, this

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Speaker 2: is a bit ott. He agreed there was a lack

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Speaker 2: of trust between the parties that's Treasury and the government.

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Speaker 2: He then resigned March five on the condition the board

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Speaker 2: withdrew the letter that it sent to him. The letter

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Speaker 2: they sent to him basically said mate, can you pull

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Speaker 2: your head in. They had an exit agreement quickly fronted

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Speaker 2: March five, refused to detail what happened. It wasn't till

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Speaker 2: June eleven. The RB said all resigned because he disagreed

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Speaker 2: with the board over the amount of government funding. If

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Speaker 2: these clowns had just come clean in the first place

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Speaker 2: and just just run it like I run this program,

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Speaker 2: tell it like it, it's right you go. Look, Adrian

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Speaker 2: got really pissed off. He had a couple of meetings

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Speaker 2: in which he yelled. We wrote to him and said, mate,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that because you're the Reserve Bank governor,

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Speaker 2: at which he said, gets stuffed, I'm off, and we said,

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Speaker 2: okay the end. If they said that, no one would

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Speaker 2: care because everyone's lost their rag in a meeting. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to work for a place if you don't

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Speaker 2: like it. He'll go and get some other job. He's

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Speaker 2: happy as and we can all move on. But we've

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Speaker 2: taken months to get to the bottom of this nonsense.

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Speaker 2: And I think finally we're there, five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: For the ins and the outs, it's the fizz with

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Speaker 1: business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: I can't use out a europe byd geez. They're having

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Speaker 2: a good time closing the gap with Tesla at a

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Speaker 2: rate of not so. These are numbers for July in total,

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Speaker 2: this is the whole EU. Tesla sold six thousand, six

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Speaker 2: hundred cars. Has had a lot of money. Is that

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Speaker 2: a lot of cars in the EU?

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Speaker 20: Know?

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Speaker 2: To forty two percent drop from July last year. First

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Speaker 2: seven months of this year they've sold seventy seven thousand cars,

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Speaker 2: which is down from one hundred and thirty seven thousand

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Speaker 2: into BYD for the first time. BYD outpaced Tesla in

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Speaker 2: July ninety six hundred and ninety eight cars, two hundred

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Speaker 2: and six percent increase, Thank you very much. The European

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Speaker 2: Free Trade Association that includes UK's and Denmark and Norway Sweeten,

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Speaker 2: et cetera similar sales drop for Tesla BYD going through

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Speaker 2: the roof, they're up Turner in twenty five percent. Can't

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Speaker 2: work out whether we hate Tesla because Elon hung out

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Speaker 2: with Trump or we hate Tesla now because just turns

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Speaker 2: out Tesla's a crap and by they have gone and

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Speaker 2: built a better car and the Chinese are here to

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Speaker 2: stay anyway. The analysts predicted it's all one way traffic

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Speaker 2: from here on in because they've got the battery tech

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Speaker 2: byd They claim a five minute charge is good for

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Speaker 2: four hundred k's, while it currently takes Tesla fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: to get three hundred and twenty k's. Lotus by the way,

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Speaker 2: other car news. Lotus by the way, and Britain five

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty jobs gone good. That's bad news. I

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Speaker 2: could bore you witness with the Lotus story owned by

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Speaker 2: Jili these days who were the Chinese and they've lost

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Speaker 2: the plot. I mean, what was once a great British company,

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Speaker 2: the a siege that I mean forgot. If you wanted

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Speaker 2: just a beautiful little go cart, that Lotus was it.

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Speaker 2: And what they're producing these days is like what was like,

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, sales of UK cars to the US are

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Speaker 2: now up, thanked the good Lord, because the US is

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Speaker 2: the biggest market of the UK cars and they were

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Speaker 2: falling off a cliff because of the whole tariff thing.

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Speaker 2: So it was up to twenty seven five for the tariffs,

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Speaker 2: but the first one hundred thousand cars going at ten percent,

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Speaker 2: so the demand is back. The Lambeau Guy, by the way,

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Speaker 2: which is not in British obviously, but the Lambeau Guy,

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Speaker 2: head of Lambeau said, even the lambo buyer in America's

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Speaker 2: pausing or hesitating at the moment because of these tariffs.

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Speaker 2: And these are half a million dollar cars. So the

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Speaker 2: tariffs are a disaster news for you in a couple

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Speaker 2: of moments. Greg fouran of the in New Zealand after

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Speaker 2: after seven thirty.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: mic costing breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial,

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Speaker 1: and rural news togs Head been.

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Speaker 2: Seven past seven out of these alcohol changes where to

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Speaker 2: have a clear licensing process the best, but that people

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Speaker 2: from out of town can't make objections of profession. Also

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Speaker 2: easy to open for special events, which I think is good.

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Speaker 2: Sam McKinnon, head of advocacy at HOSPOW, New Zealanders with

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Speaker 2: a Sam morning Morning. Make So what do we have

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Speaker 2: here in totality a tinker or a game changer?

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Speaker 12: I mean, I think it's a step in the right direction.

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Speaker 12: These these changes are reinstating some of the rules that

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Speaker 12: are in place for force and changes that the last

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Speaker 12: government made, and so enabling and making sure that you're

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Speaker 12: objectors actually have an interest in your community. We've had

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Speaker 12: cases of you know, based in Auckland making objections for

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Speaker 12: licenses and Tomorrow and Viicago with no understanding as a

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Speaker 12: model that a venue plays in their community or the

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Speaker 12: measures they have in place to run a great.

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Speaker 2: Venue, And no one up to this point has thought

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Speaker 2: that's mental.

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Speaker 12: Well, certainly the industry has thought that that's a a

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Speaker 12: little bit crazy. But so I guess in that sense,

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Speaker 12: it's great to see that the government's been listening and

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Speaker 12: has made these changes.

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Speaker 2: Good because it came out of the helicopter thing. For me,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're interested in that, but Elie

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Speaker 2: Williams and as helicopter, the people in Wanaka and WAYHICKI

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Speaker 2: telling them he couldn't land in a suburban Orkline, think

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Speaker 2: what's going on here? That's mad? What about these sporting events?

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Speaker 2: That's all good, isn't it?

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Speaker 21: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think for us that provides a

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Speaker 12: bit more opportunity around some other events might be able

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Speaker 12: to be our host and venues when they're run on

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Speaker 12: the other side of the world outside of our licensing hours.

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Speaker 12: So we've already run every Rugby World Cup run through

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Speaker 12: a legislative process to basically stop each individual venue having

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Speaker 12: to apply for a special license. But this opens the

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Speaker 12: door for FIFA World Cup Finals or I guess other events.

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Speaker 12: At the minister's DISCRESSI.

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Speaker 2: Do we still have town to town, region to region

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Speaker 2: issues to deal with or not?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean one of our key challenges around them

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Speaker 12: licensing system is just the inconsistent interpretations of what the

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Speaker 12: rules actually say within the Same and Spy of Alcohol Act,

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Speaker 12: and so you kind of end up, depending on where

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Speaker 12: you are in the country, you might have your local

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Speaker 12: authority to termine a different set of rulings around your license.

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Speaker 12: So that doesn't support investment in hospitality, doesn't support a

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Speaker 12: thriving hospitality sector. So that's that's something we'd like to

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Speaker 12: have looked at.

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Speaker 2: Next, give me an out of ten ten it was

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Speaker 2: perfect one, it was a bust.

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Speaker 12: Well, look, the very percent stuff is really positive for

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Speaker 12: us as well, so overall it probably is a seven

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Speaker 12: percent stuff means that we're able to serve zero percent

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Speaker 12: bears to satisfy a lie alcohol requirements, which currently they

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Speaker 12: cast to a bit of a gray area. So there's

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Speaker 12: a range of newsers here. They all support hospitality. We're

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Speaker 12: placed overall with the direction of travel.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever tasted a zero percent via that you

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Speaker 2: genuinely recommend.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean Garrett's Project Tiny as always go to

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Speaker 12: for me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, garage Project Tiny. I'm going to get a bit

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Speaker 2: of that action this weekend. Sam top tip. Sam McKinnon

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Speaker 2: the head of advocacy at Hospitality in New Zealand ten

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Speaker 2: and its past seven PASKI. We've got the laser reporting

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Speaker 2: from the New Zealand China Council. Investment out of China

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Speaker 2: increased by an average of nine percent. This is between

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Speaker 2: twenty fourteen twenty twenty four flat line post COVID, China

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Speaker 2: now ranks twelfth as they saw some New Zealand foreign

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Speaker 2: direct investments. So what's going on here? John McKinnon's the

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Speaker 2: New Zealand China Council chair and is with us. John,

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Speaker 2: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 21: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Something wrong?

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Speaker 21: No, not really. I think there's a number of reasons

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Speaker 21: why the flat lining has occurred. One is to do

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Speaker 21: with COVID, the second is probably to do with slow

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Speaker 21: down on the Chinese economy. A certain fourth would probably

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Speaker 21: be changes in the rear get a tree environments in

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Speaker 21: both countries. So we don't see it as something which

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Speaker 21: is particularly worrying, but it's part of the purpose of

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Speaker 21: its reporters to provide people with the facts that they

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Speaker 21: can make their decisions on or judgments on.

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Speaker 2: Is it more them or more us or a bit

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Speaker 2: of both.

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Speaker 21: Well, it'd be hard to say. I would say probably

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Speaker 21: I'd attribute more to the COVID effect, which of course

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Speaker 21: applies to both countries, but also to the slowdown on

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Speaker 21: the Chinese economy. But there have been a number of

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Speaker 21: regulatory steps taken in China which have had an effect

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Speaker 21: of altering the way in which Chinese might be able

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Speaker 21: to expatriate their funds. And of course we've had changes here,

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Speaker 21: although they've been more designed to encourage people to invest

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Speaker 21: in use even than the reverse.

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Speaker 2: Right, So those Chinese changes, that's applicable to the whole world,

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Speaker 2: not just New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, that's right, absolutely.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And we've got the US as the number one direct

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Speaker 2: foreign investor. Now that's good, isn't it?

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Speaker 21: Well it is. I mean, if you look at the

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Speaker 21: stock though, the overwhelming stock of investment comes from Australia,

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Speaker 21: which is not particularly surprising the US, and there's a

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Speaker 21: big gap so that I think the Australia's stock is

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Speaker 21: fifty four percent or something in the US is nine percent,

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Speaker 21: so there's quite a big gap there. China comes in

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Speaker 21: on that scale at about zero point nine percent, so

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Speaker 21: it's still it's still a long long way behind the

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Speaker 21: big players.

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Speaker 2: You reckon it'll change or not. I mean so in

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Speaker 2: other words, is that the regulations and the regulations are

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Speaker 2: the regulations. Therefore it's constrained or well out of COVID

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Speaker 2: and move on. Things will have change again.

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Speaker 21: Well, we don't forecast a huge change. We can see

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Speaker 21: areas where there would be congruence or compatibility between New

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Speaker 21: Zealand and China in the areas such as you know,

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Speaker 21: renewable energy or food production. But it's hard to see

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Speaker 21: how the current settings are going to change in such

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Speaker 21: a way that there's an enormous boost. And I just

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Speaker 21: don't think that's the way that the Chinese people are

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Speaker 21: looking at this country.

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Speaker 2: Okay, John, appreciate the insight. John McKinnon, who's the New

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Speaker 2: Zealand China Council chair thirteen minutes past seven. I've opened

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Speaker 2: a Pandora's box here. I gave up drinking three years ago.

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Speaker 2: The bus zero rated in my opinion, as sawmill bear beer.

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Speaker 2: That's crap and I'm no disrespect to Sawmill because I

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Speaker 2: love them, but that there, I've had it and it's nonsense. Mike.

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Speaker 2: The schools who signed the open letter to Erica calling

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Speaker 2: for a stop to NCEA reform have an average twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent of the students gaining UI don't think NCEEA

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Speaker 2: is working for them somehow. Yeah, that that story got

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Speaker 2: far too This is once again, this is my let's

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Speaker 2: turn the country round vibe now does eighty nine principles

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Speaker 2: out of and surely that was the question. How many

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Speaker 2: principles are there in the Country's about four hundred and twenty,

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Speaker 2: so not even a quarter of them. So, in other words,

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Speaker 2: think about it positively. Well, in excess of three quarters

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Speaker 2: didn't want anything to do with the letter. So why

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Speaker 2: are we giving so much prominence to people who just

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Speaker 2: don't want to move forward? These are people who are

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Speaker 2: overseeing failure. They don't want change, so they're happy to

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Speaker 2: oversee failure. So when change comes, they don't want a

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Speaker 2: part of that. I mean, explain that to me. Thirteen past.

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Speaker 13: At be.

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Speaker 2: Greg four and is still to come out of a

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Speaker 2: New Zealand. With the numbers are Tim Wilson k Hawksby

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Speaker 2: after eight ten was one and a cruz as it

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Speaker 2: turns out, so we'll have to get the insight on

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Speaker 2: the cruise and what happened. They're sixteen minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: It looks like the green loans are hit. You know,

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Speaker 2: these green loans where you borrow money for certain things

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Speaker 2: in nature. I think it's summer interest free. Some are

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Speaker 2: like one percent. Anyway we borrow. We borrowed a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in these green loans and basically it's for evs

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Speaker 2: and heating your house and solar panels and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Claire Matthews, Massy University banking expert, with this clear

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Speaker 2: good morning to you more ner, Mike. Is a billion

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Speaker 2: dollars A lot.

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Speaker 22: Oh, I mean brilliant dollars are sitting a large amount

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Speaker 22: of money. And I think what's more important is because

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Speaker 22: these are smaller loans, it's actually a lot of loans.

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Speaker 22: In terms of the tile amount of lending banks are doing,

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Speaker 22: it's probably not a huge amount, but in terms of

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Speaker 22: the difference that's making I suspect it's quite significant.

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Speaker 2: How much is it real? I mean, say, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: give the monkeys about the environment, but I can get

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Speaker 2: one percent loan on an EV. Why wouldn't I buy

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Speaker 2: an EV and do it that way as opposed to

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Speaker 2: a regular car payment.

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Speaker 22: Well to something said, it's almost part of the reason

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Speaker 22: for doing it. It's to help encourage consumers to be

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Speaker 22: more environmentally focused. Maybe not because they directly want to,

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Speaker 22: but because it's incentives to do so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a bigger picture at place the solar

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Speaker 2: I've got questions around in terms of longevity. So I

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Speaker 2: borrow money for solar, I put the solder on the roof,

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Speaker 2: and of course it takes years to pay off, and

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Speaker 2: then suddenly I'm selling the house, I get nothing back

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Speaker 2: and I still owe this money. I mean, the issues

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Speaker 2: around that are.

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Speaker 22: Not really well potentially, but the point is that because

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Speaker 22: you're paying a lot less for the loan, the payback

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Speaker 22: should be much better. And there's a whole other issue

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Speaker 22: around the need for solar energy and other types of

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Speaker 22: energy to be more cost effective. So it's a slightly

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Speaker 22: different issue. But one would hope that as we become

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Speaker 22: more environmentally conscious, and there are a lot of New

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Speaker 22: Zealanders that already are, that the fact that you've got

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Speaker 22: solar pedals on your house will be a sealid point.

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Speaker 2: Will it well, I would hope, so, okay, And presumably

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Speaker 2: this is the same criteria that all banks use for lending.

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Speaker 2: In other words, can you afford to pay it back

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Speaker 2: even if it is one percent or zero percent? I mean,

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Speaker 2: they'd still be doing the you know, the d D

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Speaker 2: as they say.

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Speaker 22: Absolutely, the fact that these are concessional interest rates does

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Speaker 22: not absolve the banks of the need to do the

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Speaker 22: normal affordability checks. So yes, they've got to make sure

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Speaker 22: that they irrespective of what amount you're paying, that you

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Speaker 22: can still afford it.

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Speaker 2: They can't be making money at one percent. They must

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Speaker 2: be losing money. If they're losing money, is this green washing?

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Speaker 22: Well, I don't know that it's green washing if they're

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Speaker 22: actually losing money green washing, No, But they're doing.

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Speaker 2: It for altruistic reasons to save the world. So in

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Speaker 2: saving the world, are they saving the world? And if

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Speaker 2: they're not saving the world, is that green washing?

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Speaker 13: Well?

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Speaker 22: I think it is a contribution to help save the

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Speaker 22: world because it's getting people into things to help save

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Speaker 22: energy that may not otherwise have been able to do.

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Speaker 22: And it is costing the banks, so they are doing

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Speaker 22: it partly it's about showing that they are contributing to

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Speaker 22: the community and adding value.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hey, do you know about neo banks?

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Speaker 22: A little bit depends on the question is it.

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Speaker 2: Worth discussing neo banks at links tech Edwards? You know

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Speaker 2: Tech Edwards, the monopoly guy two degrees? Oh, okay, yep, right,

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Speaker 2: so he's big on these neobanks. He reckons neo banks

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Speaker 2: of the future to banking in this country, and therefore

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Speaker 2: it'll balance it out in the whole competition argument that's

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Speaker 2: going on. Do I need to look into neo banks

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Speaker 2: and our neo banks potentially the answer to the competitive

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Speaker 2: problem in this country with banks.

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Speaker 22: Well, neo just means new, So all it really means

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Speaker 22: is that these are banks that are coming in that

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Speaker 22: are going to do things slightly differently. It's much like

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Speaker 22: the argument I think around open banking, that it's going

877
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Speaker 22: to make us do things in a different way, and

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Speaker 22: if that's going to fix the competition problem, it's worth's

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Speaker 22: worth having a look into. Because it all depends what

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Speaker 22: the leobank, how it specifically is going to operate. Because

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Speaker 22: they're all going to be slightly different in terms of

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Speaker 22: what they're offering and how they go to operate. But

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Speaker 22: whether they're going to solve the problem, that's a different question.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's a pleasure. Clear, you have a good weekend, doctor, Clear.

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Speaker 2: Matthew's out of massive university's so I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: London to find out that it's not a thing, am I?

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Speaker 2: If you missed yesterday's story, text wants to fly me

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Speaker 2: and the research temper.

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Speaker 14: I'll be worth your investment though, couldn't they?

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Speaker 2: Good boo Wilson. We'll see how we're feeling later in

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Speaker 2: the show. We'll see how the show and go. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: about that. SHAWNA. Laughlin eight, Shawn's my hero of the week.

941
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Speaker 2: He took at to Courtney one brains one arrogance nil

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Speaker 2: Nicola v Tory six. Who doesn't love a bitch slag

943
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Speaker 2: and who doesn't think Niccola has an excellent point on

944
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Speaker 2: that A Principles four or at least the ones who

945
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Speaker 2: wrote to the Education Minister asking for her to stop

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Speaker 2: her reforms. I mean in that letter is so much

947
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Speaker 2: that's wrong with education. People are over seeing failure and

948
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Speaker 2: yet not wanting change. Putin three, I know what the

949
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Speaker 2: hell I'm doing? You forgot that one, didn't you? A?

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Speaker 2: Where's the meeting? Where's the place, where's the time, where's

951
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Speaker 2: the venue? Where's the date? Did Trump get stiffed something?

952
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Speaker 2: You might have? Skiing four for Glenn? Yeah, I would

953
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Speaker 2: argue we have had, or at least some of us

954
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Speaker 2: have had. I reckon a superb winter, long, clear blue

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Speaker 2: sunny days. But they weren't from the South, of course,

956
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Speaker 2: and the South brings the snow, and they hasn't been

957
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Speaker 2: much of that. Travis and the Missus eight, I mean,

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Speaker 2: here's the plane. The often comes out, he wins the

959
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Speaker 2: super Bowl, the marriage is sold to Bandity fair, and

960
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Speaker 2: we all live happily ever after. I think that's how

961
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Speaker 2: it goes isn't and that's the weak copies on the

962
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Speaker 2: website and good news because of the value of marking

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Speaker 2: the week. And for all those of you that ship

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Speaker 2: copies to the States. This is not affected by the

965
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Speaker 2: Deminimus issues. Poscy might talk to any real estate agent

966
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Speaker 2: solar power. It's absolutely nothing to house value. If here

967
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Speaker 2: there's an interesting comment from clear Neobanks, Micro and are

968
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Speaker 2: the change that's required but extremely difficult to launch in

969
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Speaker 2: New Zealand? Are they? Why the three of them already launched?

970
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Speaker 2: Caun't be that hard. But it's an interesting point, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Mike Emerson's Little Bird. I've opened the zero alcohol Peroni zero.

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Speaker 2: See I've got experience with Pironi zero. Sorry, you're wrong,

973
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Speaker 2: You're completely wrong. I've just started drinking the Project tiny

974
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Speaker 2: Bee as Hazy IPA XPA. They're great, Okay, Max Freeer

975
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Speaker 2: Ride is pretty good. Don't tell me it's pretty good.

976
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Speaker 2: I have to pretty good.

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Speaker 14: I've always saw the amstyle wasn't so bad.

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Speaker 2: That don't give me wasn't so bad. What we're after

979
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Speaker 2: is the best the show stop our hands down laid

980
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Speaker 2: down on the zebu.

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Speaker 14: Well, you need an alcoholic one, then, do't you.

982
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know what I need, Glenn.

983
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Speaker 2: What I need is the news. Then we'll talk to

984
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Speaker 2: Greg foran.

985
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 1: d B.

988
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: Twenty three minutes away from Tim and Cody after aving

989
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Speaker 2: the Friday. Of course, the two in New Zealand who

990
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: came for the company resolved part of yesterday with one

991
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty six million their profit which is down

992
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: thirteen point seven percent. There was a five percent increase

993
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: in the airfare is coming as well, and a sense

994
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: the tough times ain't over yet. Greg Furan is of

995
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Speaker 2: course the chief executive and it is back with us.

996
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Speaker 2: Good to see you. So let's start with the good news.

997
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Speaker 2: My sister was on the dreamline of the new Dreamliner

998
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: yesterday flying to Australia and she's lucky enough to be

999
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: up the front of the plane and was speaking very

1000
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Speaker 2: favorably of the new experience. So there's a win for

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Speaker 2: you there.

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Speaker 23: I'm going to take it. And we've got four of

1003
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Speaker 23: them done. We're the first in the world to get

1004
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 23: Dreamliners retrofitted actually, of any airline in the world, we've

1005
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Speaker 23: got fourteen of them. Four are done, we should have

1006
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Speaker 23: seven done by the end of the year, and all

1007
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Speaker 23: of them completed by the end of the following year,

1008
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Speaker 23: plus two new dreamliners coming in March next year.

1009
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Speaker 2: Right, when you say that, and I assume you say

1010
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: it with an element of pride, at no point did

1011
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: you think I should really hang around till they're in

1012
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: place and get some good headlines and some good news

1013
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: and some good slaps on the back.

1014
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 23: Not really how I operate. And one of the things

1015
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Speaker 23: I've learned in this business is that just when you

1016
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 23: think things are coming right, be ready for the next

1017
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 23: side swipes. So I'm not getting out because of side swipes.

1018
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 23: I'm getting out because we've got a terrific person to

1019
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,720
Speaker 23: replace me. I've got some other things that I would

1020
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 23: like to explore in my life. So the timing is

1021
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 23: about right.

1022
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: We'll talk about the new CEO in a moment. Was

1023
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 2: the best headline yesterday had nothing to do with you, actually,

1024
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: but it says people love travel more than they hate quantus.

1025
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: Now you can identify, I'm assuming with that in the

1026
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: sense that you've got that same reputational thing that people

1027
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: do hate quantas, and some people do hate here in

1028
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: New Zealand. How do you counter that and deal with them?

1029
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 23: You know, reputation I think is pretty critical, and I

1030
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 23: often ask myself in the airline business, is it as

1031
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 23: important in the airline business as it is in other organizations,

1032
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 23: for example, like retail where I came from. Clearly, points

1033
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 23: programs in airlines are an interesting way of ensuring loyalty.

1034
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 23: Even though I don't like the airline, but I've got

1035
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 23: seven trillion points with them. Am I going to go

1036
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 23: and fly on a competitor? And the answer is some do,

1037
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Speaker 23: but most don't, So it's a pretty sticky business. However,

1038
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 23: having said that, I don't think there's any excuse for

1039
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 23: not ever treating your customer as well, and so we

1040
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 23: focus on that intently. And you know, I've spoken before

1041
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 23: about our stakeholder model. I worry about customers, staff, suppliers,

1042
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 23: communities in which we operate in and shareholders, and I

1043
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 23: try and do the best job I can for all

1044
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 23: five of those stakeholders. Having said that, I'd say to

1045
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 23: you that the Quantus result was a very good result.

1046
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 23: Yesterday slightly different set of circumstances that they operate in.

1047
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 23: They're not dealing with some of the engine issues. They're

1048
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 23: not dealing with some of the domestic challenges that we're faced.

1049
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 23: They'll have some of the inflation issues that we're dealing with.

1050
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Let me come to that. So just strip out that's

1051
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: what I want to know. Take out your engines and

1052
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: take out the economy, which isn't your fault, neither of

1053
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: your fault. Are you as a company as fighting fit

1054
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: as Quantus appears to.

1055
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 23: Be, I would say yes we are. We've been prepared

1056
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 23: to invest in, for example, aircraft that's still coming for them.

1057
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 23: They've got some coming, but their fleet is almost twice

1058
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 23: the age of white ours is, so they've got a

1059
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 23: pretty heavy CAPEX bill coming their way. We've been spending

1060
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 23: on things like a new hangar which actually finished yesterday

1061
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 23: out at Auckland Airport. That's one hundred and seventy million

1062
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 23: dollars worth of investment. We've plied in about another one

1063
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 23: hundred and fifty million dollars worth of investment into an

1064
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 23: engine center down in christ Church that we have a

1065
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 23: JV with. We've updated most of our digital systems, so

1066
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 23: I am happy that as I hand over to Nickel.

1067
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 23: Actually the foundations of their New Zealand are good. And

1068
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 23: as we see an improvement in engines which will come,

1069
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 23: and as we see the economy start to pick up

1070
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Speaker 23: in New Zealand is actually very well positioned.

1071
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: Okay, the great question around the economy do you see

1072
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: the pickup? Will it happen?

1073
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 23: It will happen. Of course it will, I would say

1074
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Speaker 23: to you. Just at the moment, it's still pretty hard going,

1075
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 23: particularly out of Wellington and Auckland. And as I shared

1076
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 23: with some people yesterday some of the analysts, government passenger

1077
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Speaker 23: numbers are down ten percent on same time last year.

1078
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 23: Corporate numbers are down five percent on same time last year.

1079
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 23: We're in a disposable income business. You don't have to

1080
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Speaker 23: fly or fly as much. But that will change. And

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Speaker 23: i'd hope that by now it would be picking up,

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Speaker 23: as I'm sure everyone did, But it isn't. But it

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Speaker 23: isn't just yet.

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Speaker 2: And you've written off the rest of the year, haven't you?

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Speaker 2: Not completely? But you're not bullied.

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Speaker 23: It's going to be tough, going to be tough, certainly.

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Speaker 2: For us through to Christmas. Okay, the inflation story, how

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Speaker 2: much of that is just playing cost plus account and

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Speaker 2: is straight up and down unfair.

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Speaker 23: A reasonable amount of it, and I'll pick sort of

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Speaker 23: four areas quickly and go through them. You know, this

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Speaker 23: is a highly regulated industry. There aren't too many supplies.

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Speaker 23: If you're a supplier in the airline business at the moment,

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Speaker 23: you could jump on and have a look at their

1095
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 23: share prices. They're going through the roof because they keep

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Speaker 23: putting the prices up. They can't we can't go down

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Speaker 23: to Bunnings or Miter ten and buy a replacement toilet

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Speaker 23: seat for a seven eight seven. I wish I could,

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Speaker 23: but I can't. So inflation in parts is up forty

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Speaker 23: percent over the last five years and another ten percent

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Speaker 23: this year, so that's if you like double CPI. Airport

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Speaker 23: increases were up fifty seven percent for the last five years.

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Speaker 23: This is all airport up another six percent this year.

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Speaker 23: That's another twenty four million dollars. CIA and ABSEC have,

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00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 23: in fairness, have actually been static for the previous five years,

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Speaker 23: but they had a ninety percent increases here, which is

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Speaker 23: another forty seven million dollars. You know, their funding has

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Speaker 23: probably been stripped out, so they're trying to recover cost.

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Speaker 23: I could go on but we have to bear that

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Speaker 23: and unfortunately we can absorb some, we can offset some

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Speaker 23: with improvements in the business, but ultimately some of it has.

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Speaker 2: To be passed, which is the five percent. But isn't

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Speaker 2: that a cyclical problem for this country? If they do it,

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Speaker 2: you do it in round and round we go, and

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Speaker 2: that's called inflation.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, and of course when inflation comes down, prices don't

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Speaker 23: come down. No, So that is what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me about Nicol.

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Speaker 23: What a fantastic choice. You know, the board went through

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Speaker 23: a very thorough process. You know, many many candidates were

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Speaker 23: looked at. They then got down to a short list.

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00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 23: He was our internal candidate. He joined the business five

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Speaker 23: years ago. I employed him. I felt that he probably

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Speaker 23: in time, would you be able to rise up and

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Speaker 23: replace me? And that's exactly what has happened. I'm thrilled

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Speaker 23: the business internally is and thrilled I get good feedback

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00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 23: from around the community. He's going to be a great CEO.

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Speaker 2: So that answers my question that you came from offshore.

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Speaker 2: Luxon came from offshore. This was internal? Was it internal?

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Speaker 2: Because you couldn't find anybody from offshore who was good

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Speaker 2: enough in other words, reputational issues.

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Speaker 23: No, we had a variety of people that the board

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00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 23: looked at, and it's really a question for the board.

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00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 23: But Nicholas the standout candidate and you got the job.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. So what are you doing next?

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Speaker 23: Haven't decided. So what I do know is my wife

1137
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 23: doesn't want me at home. She loves me dearly, but

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Speaker 23: she prefers me at work. So once I get through

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Speaker 23: this particular shift, and that'll be at the end of October,

1140
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Speaker 23: then I'll focus on what's next.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Might see you before you go. Nice to

1142
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: see you for now. Thank you Greg for and In

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Speaker 2: New Zealand sixteen two.

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Speaker 2: It'd be well Greg is ultimate keey gentleman, great interview.

1147
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Speaker 2: We need more people like Greg, a true leader and

1148
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Speaker 2: honest Mike. Hopefully Gregor and not lost to the country.

1149
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Nicholas a mount grammar boy, old boy. Well that's exciting, Greg,

1150
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 2: foreign for New Zealand Rugby. You're not the first person

1151
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 2: to text me that because there after a boss. Of course, Mike,

1152
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: Greg's going to be missed. We had a flight canceled

1153
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: last year and there was Greg on the tools and

1154
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Speaker 2: the check in counter, helping with his team. Good luck

1155
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Speaker 2: to a couple of people being you know, the way

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 2: some people are about other people. But one thing you

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Speaker 2: credit Greg with. Guy spends a lot of time at

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Speaker 2: the airport. I mean, I've never seen a chief executive

1159
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 2: at the airport more. And he spends a lot of time,

1160
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 2: you know, putting bags on the and putting labels on

1161
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Mike, when you interview the Prime Minister Monday,

1162
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Speaker 2: would you please ask him when he was promoting foreign

1163
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 2: investment in New Zealand did he envisit a French company

1164
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: buying our iconic dairy brand. This reminds me of when

1165
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: we sold our banks to Australia for a quick sugar hit,

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Speaker 2: followed by decades of anguish. Paul, is it really anguish?

1167
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm at the A and Z for example,

1168
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Speaker 2: I mean not promoting them. It's not a free ad.

1169
00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: But I'm at the A and Z. They happened to

1170
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Speaker 2: be Australian. Can give them monkey And all I'm interested

1171
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: is do they pay me a decent interest rate on

1172
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: the deposits? Do they not screw me when I borrow

1173
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: the money. I mean, that's the end of that. Do

1174
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Speaker 2: I have a nice private banking Yes, I do.

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Speaker 14: They you know, wasn't a traitor to the country.

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Speaker 2: Well you know anyway, And here's the important point of

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Speaker 2: your text, Paul, Luxeon's got nothing to do with Fonterra.

1178
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Speaker 2: I don't know why people don't understand this. Fontira is

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Speaker 2: a private company owned by the farmers of New Zealand

1180
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Speaker 2: or the members of the co op. So when Fontira

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00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 2: wants to sell something, they're allowed to sell something. It's

1182
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with New Zealand Inc. Now what

1183
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: has got to do with New Zealand Inc. Is the

1184
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: farmers who get the four point two billion dollars are

1185
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 2: going to put that back into the economy. So that's

1186
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: all good for us. But if Fontira, private entity wants

1187
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: to sell a chunk of their company to somebody else,

1188
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: they're perfectly entitled to and always have been able to.

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Speaker 2: Just quickly on the zero alcohol. What we didn't realize

1190
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Speaker 2: because Glenn was asleep and didn't give me the information

1191
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Speaker 2: is we do in fact have a company called State

1192
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: of Play, which is New Zealand's first and only zero

1193
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: alcohol brewery. So in other words, that's all they do, now,

1194
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Speaker 2: can I And the guy called Grant who runs it,

1195
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: he's been in the business for years and he used

1196
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 2: to work at Heineken and all that sort of stuff,

1197
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 2: and that's great, and so he obviously knows what he's doing.

1198
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Speaker 2: But what a massive call, isn't it. So there's a

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Speaker 2: trend towards zero alcohol. My problem as a semi non

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Speaker 2: drinker is I've not experienced a zero alcohol that is

1201
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 2: worth my while. So I'd rather not have anything than

1202
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 2: taste something that's not quite what it should be. To

1203
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: enter into a market and do nothing but a niche

1204
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: product is a very, very big call. But that is

1205
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: potentially what makes this country great, because there are people

1206
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: willing to back themselves, their experience, put their money and

1207
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 2: their name and the reputation on the line and take

1208
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Speaker 2: a punt.

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Speaker 14: And you think, oh, that's a bit boot take. I

1210
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 14: bet it's expensive.

1211
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Speaker 2: Is it cheap?

1212
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Speaker 14: I'm just looking at it. Here you can get a

1213
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 14: mixed box of twenty four cans of their different let.

1214
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 2: Me guess, twenty four cans four three fours, twenty four

1215
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: seventy five nine.

1216
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Speaker 14: Oh man, you were fair off seventy five backs. That's

1217
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Speaker 14: pretty good value.

1218
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm good at price points and it's just

1219
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Speaker 2: a little party trick of mine. Nine away from.

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Speaker 1: Eight the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities

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Speaker 1: News togs had bes.

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Speaker 2: From between a Rock and a hard Place this morning

1223
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: the BSA, who I can't stand the broadcasting stanzas authority

1224
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: and gave us a reason yet again this week to

1225
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 2: just completely blow them up and get rid of them

1226
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: and save some money. They've not upheld a complaint for

1227
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 2: low level swearing. So this was of course on national radio.

1228
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: They were discussing a controversial incident in parliament. This was

1229
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: the Jasindra dounbook, and Jacinda was on National radio because

1230
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: that's where she loves, lives and belongs. She called this

1231
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Speaker 2: is the famous one. This is when she called David

1232
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Speaker 2: Seymour an arrogant prick. So, mister James Allardyce, who I

1233
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: suspect I want to say, I know that name from somewhere.

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Speaker 2: I suspect he might be a serial complainer anyway, sir James.

1235
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Mister James Allardyce complains that using the word prick on

1236
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 2: national public radio was unacceptable in a breach of several

1237
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: broadcasting standards. Well, guess what it isn't. Obviously it isn't.

1238
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: And so he wasted everybody's time. And they all sat

1239
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 2: in a meeting around the table and they consider whether

1240
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: James was wasting their time, and they decided he did,

1241
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: and so it did no harm. They decided it's a

1242
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 2: relatively low level insult and would not have caused widespread

1243
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: offense or distressed to the audience, no kidding. So preck preck, Preck,

1244
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 2: preck Preck. There you go. James complained about that, and

1245
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: we're not even on public radio. My point being, it's

1246
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 2: that's what it's got to. That was the singer. As

1247
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Speaker 2: far as I can work out, that's the singular story

1248
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: that came out of the presence of the broadcasting standards

1249
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: authority that you and I pay for in this country.

1250
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: They are literally wasting their time with people like Allardyce,

1251
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 2: who has clearly bored out of his brain. Now, why

1252
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,479
Speaker 2: am I between a rock and a hard place? My mate, John,

1253
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: my mate John. I ran into John as I was

1254
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: leaving this building a couple of weeks ago, and there

1255
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: was John and John and I had a great chat

1256
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: on the BSA. So that got a bit orkies because

1257
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 2: I said, how are you going, John? Anyways, I'm good,

1258
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: And I said, what do you up to these days?

1259
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: You guys, we'll obviously I'm on the BSA And he

1260
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 2: looked at me and that we all know what you

1261
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: think of the BSA kind of look, and I went

1262
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Speaker 2: anything else, So fortunately was doing other things.

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Speaker 14: I'm starting to understand why you only ever spend about

1264
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 14: ten minutes at parties, at the three parties that I've

1265
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 14: ever seen you at.

1266
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just that people go, I know what you

1267
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 2: think about this, so we won't continue that particular conversation.

1268
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: If you or I heard what you said about me

1269
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 2: the other day, and yeah, I'm still not over it.

1270
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 2: Everyone's entitled to their own view, Mike. But then again,

1271
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: did you need to say what you said the other

1272
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: day about me? Stuff like that?

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Speaker 14: It's hard enough being me and I only just work precisely.

1274
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: You're through, You're through double glades.

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm not even that close.

1276
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Speaker 2: And after seventeen years of your skin, so think it

1277
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Speaker 2: doesn't really matter. It's all the water off a duck's back.

1278
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Speaker 2: Sam still a bit fragile. So Sam still cries a bit.

1279
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Speaker 2: That's to him up exactly. He's crying the other day

1280
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 2: at the boss about something. I said, you know what

1281
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 2: it's like, I said, just harden up, put on your

1282
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: big boy pants. Actually, speaking of pants, Sam's got pants trouble,

1283
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: haven't you?

1284
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Speaker 10: So that.

1285
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Speaker 2: He's shaking his kid, Yeah, virtually shaking because he knows

1286
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Speaker 2: what I'm going to say. What I'm going to say

1287
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Speaker 2: after the break, because we need to talk about Sam's

1288
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Speaker 2: pants with Tim and Kati. News is next.

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Speaker 1: Mike has game, insightful, engaging, and vital the mic asking

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Speaker 1: breakfast with Range Rover leading by example. News Togs dead be.

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Speaker 2: The album's called Private Music, and they really should have

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Speaker 2: kept it that way, shouldn't they. I mean, honestly, Olms,

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Speaker 2: you thought Oms was the pinnacle, and I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 2: I didn't. Anyways, Difftone they put out a thinkled Oms

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Speaker 2: and some people thought Olms was the pinnacle. Well, if

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Speaker 2: you thought that, here comes Private Music to run circles

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Speaker 2: around that notion. Listen to this perfect from Back to Punk.

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Speaker 2: This is alt metal. If you're wondering what this is,

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Speaker 2: it is lean, it is means, it is a stunner.

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Speaker 2: Deftones have recorded a flawless album.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's kind of she hardish.

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Speaker 2: What do you say? Yeah, it is a bit that

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Speaker 2: I was kind of work out what it was. Eleven

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Speaker 2: tracks and forty two minutes and twenty two seconds of

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Speaker 2: the fiction.

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Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees bringing smart business

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Speaker 1: solutions to the table.

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Speaker 2: Tim, Hello, welcome back.

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Speaker 10: Hello Mike.

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Speaker 13: Hello.

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Speaker 20: Okay, now listen, I've got a bone to pick with

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Speaker 20: you coming in now?

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Speaker 2: Can you First of all, why is your connection so poor?

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 2: It's thick?

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Speaker 14: It says, I don't know. Can you hear me?

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Speaker 20: Watch you check? Check, check my bone? Is this it's

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 20: a fake news alert? Now, my in laws tell me

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 20: that before, just before you had there's some guy who

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Speaker 20: replaced me for the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 20: But you're like, Tim didn't tell us until the last

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Speaker 20: minute that he was going away on holiday.

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Speaker 14: Not true.

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Speaker 20: I let Sammy know a month in advance.

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Speaker 2: Now, that was the ruse. That was the ruse to

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Speaker 2: suck caddium.

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Speaker 24: It was a stitch.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right, it was.

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Speaker 25: From me because it was such a big secret and surprise.

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Speaker 24: I was genuinely shocked because I was saying the same

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Speaker 24: to sam Ifair. I was saying, that's so out of

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Speaker 24: character for Tim, because he was saying, I'm trying to

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Speaker 24: get Tim on the phone.

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Speaker 25: I said, that's so, that's so I really fell for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, talk to me about I take it back. Have

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Speaker 2: you two part question? Have you been on a cruise before?

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Speaker 2: And if not, was this the greatest thing of your life?

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Speaker 2: Never been on a cruise before?

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Speaker 1: And it was.

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Speaker 20: It was an incredible, holly level lifetime. But eight days

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Speaker 20: on a floating trough. I've never eaten so much food

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Speaker 20: in all my day.

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Speaker 2: You didn't have to eat you didn't you didn't have

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01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 2: to eat that much for you. Well, it's just there.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we all go, oh, you know.

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Speaker 20: I mean I had these visions that, yeah, I'll be

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Speaker 20: hitting the gym, I'll be doing the bikes, I'll be

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Speaker 20: hitting the weights. No, I was just lying in the

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Speaker 20: buffet with kids bringing me ice cream?

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Speaker 2: Can I have another chip?

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Speaker 20: Who are you eating that chicken McNugget. The other thing

1352
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Speaker 20: is like you pillage your kids dishes as well, so

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Speaker 20: the kids.

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, first question is why were the kids there?

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Speaker 2: But second question would be did the rules around the

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Speaker 2: kids and eating change because you're on a cruise and

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Speaker 2: could scoffy faceful.

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Speaker 20: They actually, Roman, who's very self directed, decided that he

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Speaker 20: would not eat until the evening because he had eaten

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Speaker 20: so much. So they actually some of them actually, although

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Speaker 20: it put me to shame, but I have to say,

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Speaker 20: in the evening.

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Speaker 2: He ordered to dessert, So that's another that's life. Nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with that, Katie.

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Speaker 20: But they got they got braids on the islands too,

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Speaker 20: which is quite exciting.

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Speaker 2: Everyone gets braids on the islands. Who hasn't been to

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 2: the islands' got braids? For goodness? Do you remember the braids? Then, Katie,

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Speaker 2: you mean to go down memory lane with that? I

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Speaker 2: mean then the sunburn. So after you get the braids,

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Speaker 2: then the sun burn comes in with the gap in

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Speaker 2: your head, doesn't it, And then the crying all night

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01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: because the kid didn't realize that they're going to get sunburnt,

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Speaker 2: and then the holiday becomes miserable. Katie, do you take

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Speaker 2: me back there, get me back to.

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Speaker 14: Cruise?

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Speaker 17: Yeah?

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Speaker 25: No, it's not a winner. It's not a winner. Okay,

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Speaker 25: just just if I are on the beer front, we

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Speaker 25: got scent from the lovely people at Sawmill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I felt better beer beer.

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Speaker 25: Non alcoholic pale ale. Do you have you tried that?

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 25: I've got it sitting here.

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Speaker 2: I don't want it. I taste it.

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Speaker 14: You don't like pale ale?

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01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: No, no, but I just don't like. I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I just I shouldn't have I should never have seed.

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Speaker 10: You've opened up a can of worms.

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Speaker 2: Here, can of pale ale? Is what have opened up?

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Speaker 2: So the Georgia lines question, Katie, I was just wondering

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01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: this and the attitude of business. Now you I know,

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Speaker 2: Jason's just come in here, the boss of the company,

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 2: and you've been on the phone to him, and he's

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01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: been on the phone to you this morning.

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Speaker 25: Will he texted me. And as usual, Jason and I

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01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 25: aren sync in mutual agreement with each other.

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Speaker 24: A conspiratorial nonsense, our main caregiving role of you, Jason

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 24: and I like co parents of you, and we of

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01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 24: course are always in sync in agreement. And I of

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Speaker 24: course gave you a bollocking yesterday about trying to be

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01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 24: more positive and trying to speak less all of this

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01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 24: country because you have a massive influence and you need

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01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 24: to raise the bar of it. And Jason couldn't agree

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01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 24: more so, so I was really pleased to hear that

1405
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 24: the two people who try to fuel the mic hosking engine.

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Speaker 25: Are in sync.

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01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: What do I do? Because I'm between you answer me

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01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: this to him, I'm between a rock and a hard place.

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01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 2: I got to call it like it is, and there

1410
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 2: are some things to call that are particularly pleasant at

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01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: the MO. But equally, you want this country to do better.

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 2: So I walked this fine line, don't I because you

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01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: don't want to end up a cheerleader for the sake

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 2: of being a cheerleader. Equally, you don't want to be

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01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 2: a misery for this restart.

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Speaker 14: That's not yelling at the government all the time.

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Speaker 20: And it wasn't to be fair, to be fair and

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Speaker 20: wrap the week This morning at round seven twenty, I

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01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 20: was actually like, I was impressed by that because it

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Speaker 20: was positive, positive, positive positive.

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Speaker 2: Can I come clean on that? That was the way

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 2: that it was written right after the bollocking from the missus,

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Speaker 2: and I said, something's straight to the study, and I thought,

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Speaker 2: I want to tidy myself.

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01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 14: Up, and you would have fense.

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Speaker 10: That's is good.

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Speaker 2: It's a sign of a functional marriage, is it.

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Speaker 14: And you would have fense. I feel like that the

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01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 14: bollocking was slightly unjustified because this happened yesterday on the show.

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why I did that.

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Speaker 14: That sounds pretty positive.

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01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound positive to me. It sounds like I'm

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Speaker 2: more in a moment.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen past the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio powered by Newstalks.

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Speaker 2: B News Talks, B sixteen past eight.

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01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees Fighting for Fear

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01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,240
Speaker 1: for Kiwi Business.

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Speaker 2: Kate talks by Tim Wilson with us. Are you aware, Kadie,

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01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: of Tim's injury? Not of Tim's injury, of Sam's injury?

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01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 6: No?

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01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: Right, So Sam's injured himself and I just want to

1443
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 2: get your advice because you're good at the etiquette thing.

1444
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 2: So Sam unfortunately has done a league injury and it's

1445
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: possible worst scenario is going to have surgery, and that

1446
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 2: the more likely, the more likely scenario is going to

1447
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 2: be in a leg brace. Problem with the leg brace

1448
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 2: is that he can't wear his type pants, you know,

1449
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 2: the type pants he wears.

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 25: You're so mean to Sam. What's he done? In?

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01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 13: Is he want?

1452
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 20: But? I bet I bet you send him out for

1453
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 20: a coffee and you tripped him up on the way out.

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 20: What's happened.

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01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't after coffee at the moment, but he

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01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 2: injured himself at the gym. Now the type what his

1457
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: concern is because the leg brace and account were his

1458
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 2: type pants. He's going to have to wear his Lulu

1459
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: Lemon yoga shorts and he was in all seriousness going

1460
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: to talk to management to see whether they're wearing. Is

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 2: Lulu Lemon yoga shorts was acceptable clothing in the office?

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 2: Is it not? Well, what do you do with the

1463
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: league brace?

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 24: Seen, I've seen the dress code in that office and

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01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 24: I pretty much in his dressing gown and it would

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01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 24: be fine.

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01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: That's exactly what.

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Speaker 14: In Sam's case we're going to need to put to

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Speaker 14: be sunglasses or something.

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Speaker 2: Big, bright white.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I think that's a visual sort of hasard, isn't

1472
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 14: it exactly?

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: But we wish it. We wish him the best with

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 2: the injury. By the way, just quickly on the positivity. Greg,

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01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: who's my hairdresser. He's come up with an excellent idea.

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01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: He is going to in a salon. He's going to

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,759
Speaker 2: take photos of the customers, right, and he's got a

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01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: tronic display in his window. So a whole lot of

1479
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: sort of photo boxes in his window, right, and so

1480
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: this is the serious serious we're trying to get. We're

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01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,439
Speaker 2: trying to get the country right to him. Don't burst

1482
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: out laughing with the bright idea.

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01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 25: I don't understand.

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01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 24: This sounds like a Chinese food restaurant where they put

1485
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 24: the lemonated pictures of the meal.

1486
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 25: Why it doesn't entice anybody.

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01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 20: How Greg cuts it, it's here's here's the thing.

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01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 2: Can we go?

1489
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 13: But can we go?

1490
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 10: So?

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01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: You know how?

1492
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 20: You know how Taylor says that Travis is an exclamation mark, right,

1493
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 20: this is a punctuation.

1494
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 2: Travis is an explamation mark.

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01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 20: Mike, You're a colon in both senses of the word,

1496
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,439
Speaker 20: in that you you pause, you leave, you know, you

1497
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 20: let people say tell, say what they need to say,

1498
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 20: but then you process it and sometimes it's a bit smelly.

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Speaker 2: Is that what it is? Well, no, it's photo boxes, right,

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: think of a photo box. You know what a photo

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01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:50,760
Speaker 2: box is?

1502
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 25: But this before and after or is it just not?

1503
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: Like?

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01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 20: Are you going to go on the photo on the street.

1505
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 2: So what you're doing is you're walking past us sell

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01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 2: on and you're looking in the windows at the photo boxes,

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Speaker 2: and then the photo boxes lit up are people happy

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01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: and joyous and loving life and therefore you feel good

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Speaker 2: about it?

1510
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1511
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: Were you going to be one of those people? And

1512
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 2: well we didn't get to that part because I charged

1513
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: quite a lot for that sort of thing, so you

1514
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: know you need so maybe I maybe or not. But

1515
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 2: I thought that's you said. You said. What he was

1516
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: saying is that the whole malaise that we face is

1517
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 2: about attitude. And until you turn the attitude around, we're

1518
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: going nowhere fast. So I thought, now that is a

1519
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 2: good idea. Is that a good idea? Is that a

1520
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: good idea?

1521
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,680
Speaker 24: And good thinking of it too? Hey, by the way,

1522
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 24: speaking to me, you say, did you get any come

1523
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 24: back your interview with Erek Stamford about immigration this week

1524
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 24: where you talked about businesses and visas and you said,

1525
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 24: are they just more bubble tea shops coming in?

1526
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 25: And thankfully she said no.

1527
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 24: But then you went on to say, because there's too

1528
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 24: many of them in the bubble te shops, we all.

1529
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 25: Know our front for money laundering. And I fell over

1530
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 25: when you said it, because you just sat at home.

1531
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 25: But I couldn't believe you said it loud on it?

1532
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 8: Why you didn't he.

1533
01:10:59,320 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 25: Come back on that?

1534
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 20: Here's here's here's my problem, mate, John, your mate, John's

1535
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 20: already all over that isn't he?

1536
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. But my problem is sometimes I don't

1537
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 2: know whether I'm on here or at home, and so

1538
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 2: the things are blurring these days. But but that's I mean,

1539
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,840
Speaker 2: there's a lot of bubble tea, isn't there? And we

1540
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: all know that bubble tea is money laundering exercise, don't we, No,

1541
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 2: we don't don't.

1542
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 14: What's your evidence?

1543
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, I didn't want to pick Erica up because Erica, Erica,

1544
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: who had to be there to shop on her face,

1545
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: she said there's nothing wrong with bubble tea, and of

1546
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 2: course that's not true. But I didn't have time to

1547
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 2: pick her up on that and say, no, bubble.

1548
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 10: T wrong with?

1549
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 2: Can we just can we be?

1550
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 20: Can we stop being what we're against and be what

1551
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 20: we for?

1552
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 2: All right?

1553
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 20: You're against bubble tea, what are you for?

1554
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 2: I'm for high alcohol beer. I'm not for the zero crap.

1555
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm for high alcohol beer. I'm not for bubble tea,

1556
01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: and I'm for having a good time and bugger at all.

1557
01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, by the way, just quick, Jason

1558
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: went to a community meeting last night. Jason the Boss

1559
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:05,599
Speaker 2: went to a community meeting.

1560
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 25: Last did he about the housing?

1561
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 2: About the housing? Nimba sic nimber. He's he's here this

1562
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: morning denying he's a nimby, but but he's got the

1563
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 2: unitary plan and the fifteen story one is going right

1564
01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: next door to his house and he's freaking out.

1565
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 25: He should be deeply concerned about that.

1566
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 20: That's what I didn't You didn't you twist his arm

1567
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 20: to buy that house?

1568
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,959
Speaker 2: I did. And he's more the eyeballs, he's moisture the eyeballs.

1569
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: And I trolled him this week and I said, mate,

1570
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 2: before you know it, there's going to be a bubble

1571
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: tea shop right next door in fifteen stories. That's harsh

1572
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 2: and exact, turning shape around my attitude. Nice to see

1573
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: you guys. You have a good weekend, Kate. And it's

1574
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: a twenty two.

1575
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: The Masking Breakfast.

1576
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Speaker 2: Where's rain throw bern Us Tom's dead b Now, if

1577
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: you're looking after your health and your well being, that

1578
01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 2: should not be expensive. And this is where the Chemist

1579
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 2: Warehouse comes in because they've got you covered with those

1580
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Speaker 2: great savings on the Health and Wellness essentral. So what

1581
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: can we do today? Support your muscles, in your nerves,

1582
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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,400
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Speaker 2: the Clinicians Vitamin D three one twenties at only seventeen

1585
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1586
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1587
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1588
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Speaker 2: fast dissolving, great tasting tablets and flavors like citrus, tropical

1589
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Speaker 2: and blueberry just nineteen ninety nine. And these great Chemist

1590
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: ware House deals they're on now and you can explore

1591
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: by the way the great deals at Chemist Warehouse with

1592
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 2: their Father's Day Bonanza sale and that's on till Father's Day,

1593
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 2: seven September. Shop and store do it online at chemist Warehouse,

1594
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Speaker 2: click and collective. You like save time, get fast delivery,

1595
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: try that straight to the door teas and season charges

1596
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Speaker 2: may apply Chemist Warehouse for great savings every day. Past

1597
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Speaker 2: Geg Michael, love you mate and support you fully. I

1598
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,879
Speaker 2: think as you as my bro, but on this occasion

1599
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 2: I am slightly siding with Katie and and Jason, who

1600
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 2: you may need to move your attitude about the country

1601
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: and the government to fraction, say a couple of degrees. Colon,

1602
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: thank you very much for that. My argument with the

1603
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: around here, it's my argument is this, they do that

1604
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 2: line about take it easy on the government because who

1605
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 2: else is there because the rest are useless. So fair enough,

1606
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 2: but that then excuses complacency. And I'm not into complacency.

1607
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: And so just because you're the only game in town

1608
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: or the major game in town, doesn't mean you should

1609
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: get away with being second degree. And so the boss

1610
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: yesterday says to me, the only reason you're successful, for example,

1611
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 2: he's carting. The only reason you're successful is because there's

1612
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 2: no opposition. That's what he said to me. I don't

1613
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 2: know how you're supposed to go on with that, but

1614
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 2: that's the sort of stuff. That's the sort of trolling

1615
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: I get behind the scenes. I don't like to talk

1616
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 2: about myself that often and the pressures I'm under and

1617
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: the things that I face on a daily basis, but

1618
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 2: you know, that's what I dealt with yesterday. And so

1619
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't feel like turning up in the morning,

1620
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: and it's very early, it is very very lonely and

1621
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,160
Speaker 2: you think, well, the boss is trilling you. How much

1622
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 2: longer have I gotten? This job? Is my contract? And trouble?

1623
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 2: How do you perform under circumstances like that? These are

1624
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: the questions I'm asking myself.

1625
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 14: And you think I think your phrases like not a

1626
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 14: young man anymore Haggard, that's a phrase that keeps being

1627
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 14: raised by you.

1628
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 2: It's that's why I didn't start it. That's I think

1629
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 2: you did, didn't you? Who did? Am? I saying paranoid?

1630
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Could be news for you? In a couple of moments,

1631
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: then we'll cross the Tasman Murray Olds.

1632
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: News opinion and everything in between, The Mike Hoskin break

1633
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: best with Bailey's real estate altogether, better across residential, commercial

1634
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: and rural news talks head been.

1635
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:35,840
Speaker 2: Mortie, Mike, I haven't heard anything from you about the

1636
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 2: F one race preview this weekend. It's pretty good pointed

1637
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 2: back after the summer break at Zandfort. But I'll come

1638
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,560
Speaker 2: back to that in just a couple of moments. Yesterday

1639
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 2: not covered here yet again unfortunately, because it was funny

1640
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: airs Bob Catter. He's the Australian politician who wears the

1641
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 2: big cowboy hat. Old bloke, sort of cantankerous, miserable, et cetera. Anyway,

1642
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: he's doing a press release and does this, Oh.

1643
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 9: Mike, don't say that because that irritates me and our

1644
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 9: punch blokes in the mouth for saying that. Don't you

1645
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 9: dare say that? My family have been in this country

1646
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 9: for one hundred and forty years, right, so you and

1647
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 9: if you say anything like that, I have on many

1648
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 9: occasions punch bluts in the mouth. Right, So I'm restraining

1649
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 9: myself today. Don't say it.

1650
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,759
Speaker 2: He's in Parliament. Actually, once the press conference was over,

1651
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: he sort of didn't finish there.

1652
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,879
Speaker 9: You just said without being identified as a racist, some gentleman, ladies,

1653
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 9: this man is a racist.

1654
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 14: Don't listen to him.

1655
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,799
Speaker 11: Doesn't he have the freedom aster question as a servist, No.

1656
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 9: He doesn't. If he asks a racist question which imploies racism,

1657
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 9: I'm not going to answer it.

1658
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: And I don't consider him a proper.

1659
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 8: Australian international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1660
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand business or how.

1661
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 10: Are you mate? Bobcatter's Hat's too tight. He is an

1662
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 10: absolute lunatic and I mean it's justos he keeps on

1663
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 10: getting elected. I just forget what the name of his

1664
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 10: electurer it is. It's in far North Queensland and he's

1665
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 10: loved but the Conservatives up there love him. He must

1666
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 10: have been in Parliament for twenty five years or more

1667
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 10: and this is the sort of stuff he comes out with.

1668
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 10: The whole news conference yesterday was because he's opposing levels

1669
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 10: of migration. And the guy Josh Babis, he's been around

1670
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:25,680
Speaker 10: a long time, good reporter. He's done a lot of

1671
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 10: miles with the ABC. I think he's working for Channel

1672
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 10: nine up there now. And he said he brought it up.

1673
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 10: He said, mister Caddy, your family came from Lebanon. And

1674
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,640
Speaker 10: let's face it, if you if your Herodage can't go

1675
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 10: back sixty five thousand years as indigenous people can hear

1676
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 10: everyone's in new arrival. I mean, it's just buddy ridiculous.

1677
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 10: And I mean Kat has pulled this nonsense before. He said,

1678
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 10: don't you do essay, My family came from Lebanon. His

1679
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 10: sister was on national television a few weeks back saying,

1680
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 10: oh yeah, yeah, our ancestors came here from Lebanon for

1681
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 10: a new life. Jeff silly, silly, silly.

1682
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,560
Speaker 2: Sir Kennedy is the electroateism.

1683
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 10: Dentity, thank you very much.

1684
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: Nowhere is it all this? I read a very good

1685
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: piece a guy called Cam Wilson. Do you know whom

1686
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: he works with the Sydney Morning Hero. He's written a

1687
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 2: book apparently about all these sovereign citizens and Dezzy and co.

1688
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 2: And what I didn't realize. I thought a sovereign citizen

1689
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 2: was sort of a person who kind of I don't

1690
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: pay taxes and you don't tell me what to do,

1691
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 2: and I don't recognize you as the law, etc. But

1692
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: it's way more than that. It's way more sort of

1693
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: you pay to the straw man and you're born a

1694
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: sovereign citizens. They're all weird as But where are we

1695
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: at with the actual you know, finding him?

1696
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 10: Well, well, they have no idea where he is. I mean,

1697
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 10: if you can think it's a cross between the Coromantal

1698
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 10: Peninsula and the rubbers Bush on the west coast of

1699
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 10: the South Island, and then you add into it the

1700
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 10: dreadful weather that's down there. This guy knows the area

1701
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 10: super well. He was living on a bus in this property.

1702
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 10: Police obviously turned up. There were ten officers assigned to this,

1703
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 10: so they knew there were I mean, this guy had history.

1704
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 10: He's called police Nazis, does not recognize the court system,

1705
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 10: does not recognize Australian governments. So they turned up with

1706
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 10: a good number of officers and two shot dead and

1707
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,840
Speaker 10: it's gone far BEI You may remember Mike, a guy

1708
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 10: called Prince Leonard of Hut, Yes, and he was a

1709
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 10: strange character but harmless.

1710
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 16: Right.

1711
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 10: This was a little kind of community he founded way

1712
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,479
Speaker 10: out on the far west coast of Western Australia. And

1713
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 10: Prince Leonard of Hart said that this is a principality.

1714
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 10: We don't recognize the Australian government. It's got a whole

1715
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 10: lot darker and a whole lot more sinister and a

1716
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 10: whole lot more criminal, to be honest. The police say

1717
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:41,759
Speaker 10: there are many, many of these people out there. COVID

1718
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 10: really drove them down to a bunch of whole bunch

1719
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 10: of rabbit holes. And they are sharing the conspiracy theories

1720
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 10: about the world governments. You know, the whole Q and

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01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 10: non stuff that you know that Donald Trump's allegedly involved,

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Speaker 10: I big your pardon. Different American leaders are involved in

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Speaker 10: the whole Q and nons stuff. All that nonsense. And

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Speaker 10: this is an offshoot I guess of that. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's a it's a similar thing. They don't They have

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Speaker 10: no respect for what passes for authority over here. And

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Speaker 10: this guy was he's just off the grid. This guy

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Speaker 10: opened fire on police and killed two of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to I'm assuming he's going to end

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Speaker 2: up dead, isn't he? Because I mean, yes.

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Speaker 10: He's a very good booshman. He can stay out there.

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Speaker 10: I heard police this morning say if he's got cashes

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Speaker 10: of food out there, he can stay out there for

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Speaker 10: as long as he wants. But the chances are that

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Speaker 10: he will be found dead not too far from where

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Speaker 10: they are right now. His wife and two children. They

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01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 10: went to see police, I think on Tuesday night or

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01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 10: early Wednesday morning this week, and they've got nothing to

1739
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 10: do with this fella. He's out there on his own,

1740
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 10: and there's a whole bunch of mind shafts and so on.

1741
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 10: He could be anywhere.

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01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 2: Mike the Miles thing where he didn't really have a meeting,

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01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: but he happened to encounter a couple of senior operators

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01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: in America and flick them, you know, flick the old

1745
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 2: photos up. Is he is this embarrassing?

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Speaker 21: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, this is all secret squirrel stuff with Richard Miles,

1748
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 10: he's the Defense Minister off to Washington. I mean, you

1749
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 10: know UCUS, the whole security arrangement, the architecture of Aucus

1750
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 10: with the United States and Britain and Australia. So you know,

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01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 10: it's very troubled. Australia shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars

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Speaker 10: into the American industrial military complex on the off chants

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Speaker 10: we're going to get three nuclear powered submarines sometime the

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01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 10: twenty thirties. So okay, let's go to Washington. But this

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:38,440
Speaker 10: apparently was a different trip. It wasn't talking about submarines

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 10: as much as assuring officials. We understand because he met

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01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 10: Vice President Vance, he met he did meet Hegzaf, the

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Speaker 10: American Defense Secretary, also met Marco Rubio, so he had

1759
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Speaker 10: some pretty high powered meetings and we understand now this

1760
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 10: morning this was more about shoring up the politics of

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01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 10: all of this. Is Australia going to spend more money

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01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 10: on defense? Is washing and is insisting, well, perhaps we

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01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 10: are going to be spending more money on defense. Notwithstanding

1764
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Speaker 10: the remarks made to this point by the Australian government

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01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 10: on the record, and don't forget Anthony Albernice is off

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Speaker 10: to New York in a couple of three weeks to

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Speaker 10: address the United Nations. And there's a chance we understand

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01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:21,440
Speaker 10: that this visit by our Defense minister to Washington overnight

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01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 10: has paved the way for a meeting with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 10: perhaps in New York. If you're Albanizi, you don't want

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Speaker 10: to go near the Oval office.

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Speaker 2: Because you get a new bum rip for you know exactly. Hey,

1773
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 2: when you into Italy, what airline did you fly?

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01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,480
Speaker 10: We flew with Singapore.

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Speaker 2: Just as reading in the Australian media now it's just

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01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: reading yesterday in the Australian media. Emirates who in first

1777
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:50,520
Speaker 2: class offer caviar. They are saying that the cavia consumption

1778
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: on first class Emirates has gone up thirty percent of

1779
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 2: the last year. And the most lutoner's route is due

1780
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 2: by London, followed by Dubai Paris, but the third ones

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01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 2: d by Sydney. And I put them down to you.

1782
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: But if you if you weren't on board, right, not

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01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 2: really your fault, is it.

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Speaker 10: Make I'll tell you what you're speaking Airlines Quantus. Hasn't

1785
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 10: that bounced back the net extraordinary billions and billions and

1786
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 10: billions of dollars in profits, notwiths doubting the fact they

1787
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 10: got swapped with a ninety million dollar fine by the

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Speaker 10: federal court only a couple of weeks back, because of

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01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,040
Speaker 10: course they sacked all those ground staff in the middle

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01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:29,080
Speaker 10: of COVID and then trousered millions and millions and millions

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Speaker 10: of taxpayers dollars. Is she though, Well, she was the

1792
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,760
Speaker 10: understudy for the Irish Leprecorn who run there. It was

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01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 10: running the airline for many, many years, and it looks

1794
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 10: she's very very well regarded. This is Vanessa Hudson, who

1795
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 10: was the new boss of Quantis, you know, and a

1796
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,759
Speaker 10: big smile on the face. Yesterday domestic travel up Jetstar

1797
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,799
Speaker 10: carried a record sixteen million passengers sixteen billion, So domestic

1798
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 10: travel is enormous. Also international travel. The world is flying again.

1799
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 10: And don't be blaming me for your caveatuins.

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Speaker 2: My apologies. Well do you realize you do realize that

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01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Sidney Melbourne's the third busiest route in the world. Yeah,

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01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: I understand that that's right now, exactly sure? All right mate?

1803
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: You the other good weekend. We'll catch up next week.

1804
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate it as always. Cheers Yeah, DESI. If you've got

1805
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: access to the Sydney Morning Herald, it's a very good

1806
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 2: piece by guy called Cam Wilson. He's written a book

1807
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: on these these sovereign citizens. Research suggests conspiracy theories serve

1808
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: the needs of those who believe in them by taking

1809
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 2: a complex and uncertain world distorting it to a familiar,

1810
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,519
Speaker 2: easy to understand story. Everything bad that happens is due

1811
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: to an evil plot. They fulfilled the human urge to

1812
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: have a simple answer to a complex problem. The pseudo

1813
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 2: law believers tend to follow a very familiar pattern. They

1814
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: got to run in with the legal system, then in

1815
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 2: a moment of crisis, turned to a pseudo law guru

1816
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: for a quick fix. By shouting at court about the

1817
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: Magna carta or mailing letters with red fingerprints often exacerbates

1818
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: the problem. The parking ticket leads to a bigger fine,

1819
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: leads to a court summons, leads to a warrant and

1820
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 2: leads ultimately to your arrest. And that's how it all works.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen No, It's not fourteen to nine.

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Speaker 1: The Light Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 15: A B.

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Speaker 2: Ten away from nine to Zandfort this weekend, of course,

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Speaker 2: after the long summer breaker in F one. I'm but

1827
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 2: worried about the Warriors because the forecast has been consistently

1828
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: They're home tonight in Auckland, are consistently wrong all week

1829
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 2: and there's some Philly drowns. Took to my mother who

1830
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: had her birthday this week and she was saying how

1831
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 2: much it was blowing yesterday and some caravan got blown

1832
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: off in the west coast South. I think the northern

1833
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 2: part of the country has been spared despite the fact

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01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: the forecast apparently they talk about massive winds and you know,

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01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 2: hail and all that other nonsense. I'm looking out a

1836
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: clear blue sky, so I'm hoping for that the Warriors tonight,

1837
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, just a nice evening so we can put

1838
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Speaker 2: the eels to the sword. Anyway, Zandfort this weekend and

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,879
Speaker 2: F one. I favored racing bulls chances here because it's

1840
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: a downforce track. It's a short tracked, little tiny track,

1841
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 2: so it's not a big high open speed you know

1842
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: McLaren and all that sort of stuff, so they could

1843
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 2: be competitive. The racing bulls, and I think I'm right

1844
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 2: saying it might well be the last time that's at Zandfort.

1845
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 2: It's like, was it Monza or immol or I can't

1846
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: remember one of those Italian ones. They're not going back

1847
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 2: to again, so Zandfort. But I always thought Zaandfort was

1848
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: one of the great tracks in the sense it's small,

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01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: it's got angles, it's got undulation. It almost looks like

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01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 2: a slot car set track. And of course we do

1851
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: need to remember a couple of years ago, Daniel, Remember Daniel,

1852
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 2: He'd drive into the wall, broke his hand and the

1853
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: next thing you knew, Old Liam was called up and

1854
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: the rest, as they say, is history. So very excited

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01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: about that this week.

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Speaker 14: Does they have a loop to loop?

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01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: It's close to it, not quite, but it does. If

1858
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 2: you look at the Zaandfort track, it has those sort

1859
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 2: of things that could lead to a loop to loop.

1860
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:40,479
Speaker 2: And I think if they are losing it in terms

1861
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: of it, they're not coming back next year. If they'd

1862
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 2: had a loop to loop, they'd go, well, surely it's

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01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: the only place with a loop to loop, so why

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01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: are we possibly going elsewhere? Anyway? So I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to that this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Nine to nine the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real

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Speaker 2: There'd be one more at Zandport next year, Mike, thank

1869
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 2: you for that blowing in the Bay of plenty. He

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Speaker 2: hope the shelter bolnts protect the avo. We're ready for

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Speaker 2: picking good. It's a good season, I'm told. Daffodil day today,

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Speaker 2: by the way, chance for us all to support the

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Speaker 2: one in three New Zealand is affected by cancer. So

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Speaker 2: A and Z they've been a proud partner for the

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Speaker 2: Cancer Society for thirty five years. So that's consistency and loyalty.

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Speaker 2: We like that, and they stand with our community and

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Speaker 2: supporting the important course. So your donation helps provide the

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Speaker 2: vital care, the transport to treatment, the nurses, the accommodation

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Speaker 2: of the counseling. Also supports prevention programs and research helping

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Speaker 2: improve outcomes for future generation. So by a daffodil, show

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Speaker 2: the support. But if you can go one step further,

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Speaker 2: make a donation, because every daffodil, every dollar, every little

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Speaker 2: bit of kindness counts. Of course, it's about care, it's

1884
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Speaker 2: about hope, it's about standing with those who need it most.

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Speaker 2: So you text the word donate to three four nine

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Speaker 2: three three four nine three the word donate, and that

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Speaker 2: will be an instant three dollars donation to the Cancer Society.

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Speaker 2: So donate to three four nine three and let's make

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Speaker 2: every dollar count with an sid asking by the way,

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Speaker 2: next week we're giving away with that dollars a day

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Speaker 2: in a men's fragrance. So with the very good people

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Speaker 2: Go to news to this weekend, you know, just tell

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Speaker 2: start handing out some money and some fragrances next week

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Speaker 2: five to nine.

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Speaker 8: Great savings every day.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,639
Speaker 2: So we got the AFL Australian Rules Football All Australia team.

1903
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: So this is not a team that plays, it's just

1904
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 2: an honor. They picked the best players of the season.

1905
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 2: The big talking point Bailey Smith, he plays with the

1906
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 2: Geelong Cats. Upon receiving the nomination to the team, he

1907
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: decided to reveal he'd spent time in a psychiatric ward.

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01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 2: It was about a year ago.

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Speaker 16: I got out of a psych ward. I was in

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01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 16: at Worth Cambell for like four weeks and I got

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01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 16: a couple of hours out of day and I spent

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01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 16: that sort of training and I went for a really

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01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 16: dark time and yeah, I didn't think i'd get to

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01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 16: I suppose the other side, and you know, I'm super

1915
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 16: grateful to be here through the support of my family.

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01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 16: You know, the word gets thrown around a lot these

1917
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,400
Speaker 16: days mental health is I suppose an excuse in some cases.

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Speaker 16: And it's not a sympathy for me thing. It's just

1919
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 16: more to raise the moness that you can put your

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01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 16: hand up. And yeah, I don't know. It's a tough period,

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01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 16: but yeah, it wouldn't change it for the world. It

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01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 16: always makes sense in retrospect, So just know, yeah, whatever

1923
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 16: dark period you're going through, one day it will makes sense.

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01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:31,719
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah, there you go. Bili Smith, Geelong Cats.

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01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:34,200
Speaker 2: The team might follow, which are the demons turn out

1926
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:38,639
Speaker 2: yet again to be useless this season? So so it goes.

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01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 2: Sam tells me I should be worried about the Warriors tonight.

1928
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: He's got this conspiracy theory. He's a Tinhetter and so

1929
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: clearly rests all his players. Some other teams resting all

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01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 2: their players. There are teams on the comeback and we're

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Speaker 2: having to play full side because we've got injuries and

1932
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Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. So as a result of that,

1933
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Speaker 2: things aren't going to go well for us. And I'm

1934
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Speaker 2: going to turn up on Monday and we're suddenly night

1935
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Speaker 2: on the table and the playoffs are in doubt and

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Speaker 2: JEF and all that sort of stuff. So that's that's

1937
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Speaker 2: what I'm dealing with people. I mean, yeah, I'm trying

1938
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Speaker 2: to turn this thing around. But that's when I go

1939
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Speaker 2: into the weekend with the boss. Is I'm so successful

1940
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Speaker 2: only because there's no one else out there. Sam thinks

1941
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Speaker 2: the Warrior is a toast and he's coming into work

1942
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Speaker 2: with us, Lulu, Lim and t. I mean, I think

1943
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Speaker 2: more than a weekend. Anyway, You have a good one

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Speaker 2: and we'll see your Monday, Happy Days.

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