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Speaker 1: With the John and Ben Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Cheers to Dilma making the world a bitter tea.

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Speaker 3: So nice to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: How are you too long?

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Speaker 3: Too long?

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Speaker 1: The last time we ran into you was at the

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Speaker 1: Work Safe Site Safe Awards awarding safety in the construction industry.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you what, I was most impressed with

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Speaker 2: your knowledge of overall safety and.

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Speaker 1: Things were safe.

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Speaker 2: No one.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone got to do that night. But

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Speaker 3: you were incredible that night because you spoke. You spoke

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Speaker 3: for like an hour and to be honest, we're like,

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Speaker 3: now by yourself, that's you know, that's tough going, and

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Speaker 3: you were just incredible. You had everyone captivated telling your story,

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Speaker 3: you know, emotional things you've been through and also great

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Speaker 3: life advice about It was amazing to watch.

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Speaker 2: Oh blease you every now and then. I just check

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Speaker 2: out the back to see if you did not off.

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Speaker 3: But we say we thought about it at the start,

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Speaker 3: let's be honest, but no, you kept us captivated.

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Speaker 1: This week we're on the radio and clearly now the

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Speaker 1: first thing out of the way, and we're debating nineties

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Speaker 1: versus naughties. You know the better decade.

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Speaker 3: Oh shivers, wow, because son of a gun Let's take

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Speaker 3: it back go sort of a gun and Jase TV.

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Speaker 3: I mean that would have been through the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly. Yep, the launch of Jason Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I remember I'd get home from school and you had

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Speaker 1: a really cool, colorful, stripey T shirt. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Back then, I think session was more forgiving, you know.

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Speaker 2: So you remember the striped shirt and the colorabul shirt.

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Speaker 1: And I tried to get my mum to buy it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, on the same T shirt as

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Speaker 1: Jason Gunn and I tried to get it a buy

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Speaker 1: me a Rebok one from memory.

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Speaker 2: My god, I don't know what stuck with me. It

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Speaker 2: was a Rebok Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good.

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Speaker 3: You would have been very young doing a TV show

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Speaker 3: back then, did you kind of like, in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways, learn on the job.

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Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna lie. So four gorgeous children now

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Speaker 2: that I have, they're all doing great. But even now

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Speaker 2: and then, if I think they're getting a little bit

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Speaker 2: too big for their boots, I remind them that their father,

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Speaker 2: at eighteen had a television show with his name in it,

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Speaker 2: and none of you have that eighteen eighteen mate, straight

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Speaker 2: out of school.

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Speaker 1: Meghan, who we were with, she's really nervous about talking

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Speaker 1: to you today.

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Speaker 2: I grew up watching you, and you, to me are

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Speaker 2: like a real New Zealand celeb. Oh stop you. You

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Speaker 2: know I don't believe in that word, Meghan, but but

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Speaker 2: that's very kind of you. And well, you know, let's

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Speaker 2: be honest. They were good, simpler days, weren't they. We

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Speaker 2: gathered around us screen and there wasn't as much going on.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't lose my audience to TikTok, and we longed

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Speaker 2: a few good kids, to the young and the wrestler.

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Speaker 3: Damn you hawky are you and your talk that we

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Speaker 3: saw the other night there? How you always wanted to

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Speaker 3: be that friendly, welcoming face when you came I'm home

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Speaker 3: from school? And you were that for some weeconds.

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Speaker 2: I always say to people like, when you talk to everyone,

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Speaker 2: you talk to no one. So I always really tried

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Speaker 2: to think about, who's that one really special kid that

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Speaker 2: I could go, hey, how you doing, It's good to

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Speaker 2: see you, and you know, I'd really just try and

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Speaker 2: talk to that one kid, because there were a lot

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Speaker 2: of one kids out there who didn't have the love

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Speaker 2: and the support and didn't have the self belief. So

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Speaker 2: I thought, if I could just possibly connect with that

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Speaker 2: one kid and on a bad day try and turn

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Speaker 2: it into a good day. And the most humbling thing

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Speaker 2: over all the years has been the number of beautiful

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Speaker 2: people who have grown up and said to me, hey, Jace,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, mate, they weren't all good

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Speaker 2: days that I had growing up, but thanks for being there.

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Speaker 2: And I just think the most beautiful thing. And I

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Speaker 2: never take that for granted. And it's yeah, very humbling.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget. Also about the wonderful Thingy who you

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Speaker 3: know for many many years it was right beside you

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Speaker 3: as well, and you have mentioned this on our show before,

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Speaker 3: but for people that haven't heard it, the eye popping

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Speaker 3: out incident that every members wasn't actually on TV. It

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Speaker 3: was from a blooper that you ended up releasing later.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, many things happened in the making of The

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Speaker 2: Son of a Gun show that really should not see.

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Speaker 3: The light of day, you know.

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Speaker 2: So you're like, okay, but it was pre recorded so

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Speaker 2: we could go back and do it again. So when

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Speaker 2: Thingy's eye popped out, we thought, yeah, no, that could

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Speaker 2: that could terrify a child. I will do that again,

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Speaker 2: And then we did it again. And then about six

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Speaker 2: months later someone said, hey, you know the start of

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Speaker 2: the end of television, We're making a bloopers show and

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Speaker 2: we thought, okay, you could have that blooper like, I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's going to go anywhere. So that went on.

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Speaker 2: The Blooper Show YouTube came out soon after, and then

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Wells had a show eating media lunch that he

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Speaker 2: put out, and on the opening titles of that he

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Speaker 2: included Thing's eye popping out, and then everyone just remembered

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Speaker 2: it as I remember Thing's eye popping out. But then

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Speaker 2: I've spent the rest of my time going.

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Speaker 3: Lie and actually what happened?

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Speaker 2: Jason?

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Speaker 1: Okay, how all of this being said and done. Nineties

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Speaker 1: or noughties, what are you going to put your good

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Speaker 1: name behind.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have I'm gonna go nineties. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: go nineties because it was kind to me, and so

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Speaker 2: I can't turn my back on it. And I think

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Speaker 2: the Nordies started well.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know the wheels are falling off.

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Speaker 2: It's not the wheels of the wheels of exactly. The

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Speaker 2: nineties were kind to me. I'll be kind to the nineties.

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Speaker 2: Let's lock a nineties.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 3: Lovely to hear your voice. We love catching up with you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: Love what you guys doing, the difference you guys mate.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to