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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather

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Speaker 1: dupericy Ellen drive with one New Zealand to coverage like

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Speaker 1: no one else.

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Speaker 2: News dogs said, be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon to you. Coming out today jetstars cut

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Speaker 3: a whole bunch of trans Tasman flights. We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: a chat to the aviation analyst Jeffrey Thomas about that.

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Speaker 3: Whinston Peter's and New Zealand versa claiming that they are

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Speaker 3: the ones behind the back down and removing the minimum

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Speaker 3: size limits for the commercial fishes. We'll have a chat

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Speaker 3: to Winnie and Mark Douglass. Well check in on them.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy who has a look a where all

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Speaker 3: the ships are. Just find out how we're going with

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Speaker 3: the fuel supplies.

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Speaker 2: Heather dupericy Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Right, let's talk about the National Party accident, accidentally letting

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Speaker 3: slip that they're selling tables at a dinner with Chris Luxon. Now,

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Speaker 3: the story is that the Mainland dinner will be held

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Speaker 3: in christ Church next month and if you have a

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Speaker 3: few thousand dollars spare, you can go along. Dinner at

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Speaker 3: Chris Luckson's table will cost you ten thousand dollars. Dinner

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Speaker 3: at a minister's table. A senior minister's table will cost

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Speaker 3: you eight thousand dollars. And then just a dinner with

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Speaker 3: just you know, normal punters, normal civilians will cost you

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. Now we only know about this because

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Speaker 3: Maureen Pugh shared a copy of the invitation on Facebook,

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Speaker 3: not her first mistake, and then news Talk zb sort

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Speaker 3: and then they deleted it, but it was too late

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Speaker 3: by then, and queue the outrage. Now I'm not outraged

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Speaker 3: by this at all, because this has been going on

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Speaker 3: since at least John Key's time. Just Sinda did it

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Speaker 3: as well, and I don't think it's any different from

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Speaker 3: every other example that we have in our democracy of

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Speaker 3: cash for access. This is how power has always worked.

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Speaker 3: If you have money, you get access to people in power.

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Speaker 3: Money for lobbyists who then secure you meetings with ministers,

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Speaker 3: money for donations that mean the candidates make time for you,

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Speaker 3: money for tables at the mainland dinner. In fact, I,

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Speaker 3: and this is my personal opinion, I quite enjoy reading

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Speaker 3: about these dinners because they give me a real time

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Speaker 3: market valuation on a political leader. So Chris Luxen is

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Speaker 3: selling his table for ten thousand dollars in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Four years ago twenty twenty two, he was selling it

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Speaker 3: for fifteen thousand dollars. So he's running at a discount

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Speaker 3: at the moment, isn't he. J Just Cinda was selling

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Speaker 3: tickets to a conference where ticket holders could have access

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Speaker 3: to her for eighteen hundred dollars. That was five years ago.

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Speaker 3: So she was more valuable at eighteen hundred dollars in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one than Luxner's right now, or that he

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Speaker 3: was a year later. If you split it down and

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Speaker 3: just look at the cost per seat. John Key, now

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Speaker 3: you want to hear about a baller, John Key sold

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Speaker 3: a table at a dinner for one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's real market political valuation, isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: This tells us how much voters and stakeholders. This is

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Speaker 3: why I think it's valuable. It tells us how much

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Speaker 3: voters and stakeholders a like various leaders B want to

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Speaker 3: be seen with them and c rate the chances of

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Speaker 3: these leaders being elected and therefore useful. So make of

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Speaker 3: that what you will when you look at the numbers.

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Speaker 3: But if you are outraged by this, you are going

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Speaker 3: to be outraged forever because CASS cash for access will

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Speaker 3: probably never change ever.

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Speaker 2: Do for clans.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen nine two is a text number. You let me

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Speaker 3: know what you've been very sober. Well undoubtedly talk about

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Speaker 3: it when he is with us. Just before five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Right now, let's talk about Wellington. So the government is

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Speaker 3: putting five and a half million dollars into efforts to

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Speaker 3: make the capital predator free. If it becomes predator free,

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Speaker 3: it'll be the first predator free place in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Predator free. Wellington will get the cash over the next

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Speaker 3: five years. And the chair is Tim Pankurs, who's with

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Speaker 3: us now. I'm Tim, Hey, Heather, good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to do with the money.

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Speaker 5: Well, we've got plenty of good uses for it, and

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Speaker 5: this is some really good news for Wellington for a change.

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Speaker 5: So we've got a pretty ambitious project to make the

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Speaker 5: entire Wellington region predator free by twenty thirty. And that

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Speaker 5: takes us right across the city, right across to the

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Speaker 3: How do you keep that would Obviously the rest of

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Speaker 3: us have got heaps of predators, So how do you

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Speaker 3: stop our predators getting into your predator free space.

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Speaker 5: Good question. So as well as advancing into new areas,

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Speaker 5: we also have to be really mindful of protecting what

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Speaker 5: we've already cleared. So we've got enormous network of traps

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Speaker 5: we cleared Mirama Peninsula a couple of years ago. We

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Speaker 5: have had a couple of reintroductions and we've we've tracked

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Speaker 5: to them. So we're moving through fourteen suburbs through the

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Speaker 5: city at the moment and making good progress across there.

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Speaker 5: But we're also very mindful of protecting rare areas.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is this is this is?

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Speaker 2: This? Is?

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Speaker 3: This sounds ambitious, right, It sounds ambitious because when you

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Speaker 3: think about it, I think, is it Carpety Island or

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Speaker 3: Mana Island or one of them? Occasionally some predator will

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Speaker 3: swim over there and freak everybody out. Now, if that,

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Speaker 3: if they can get across a body of water, they're

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Speaker 3: just going to be able to wander down Transmission Gully,

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Speaker 3: aren't they.

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Speaker 5: Look, you know there are there are always going to

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Speaker 5: be incursions. But if you've got your network set up.

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Speaker 5: You've got your trap networks, you've got your poison and

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Speaker 5: your cameras and as I say, we've got a huge network.

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Speaker 5: You can be pretty confident of keeping out any intruders

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Speaker 5: once you're cleared an area carpitd The island is predator free.

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Speaker 5: It's far enough off the mainland to have a barrier there.

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Speaker 5: And you know the bird song over there is deafening.

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Speaker 3: Now, are people's cats going to be safe because they're

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Speaker 3: on the hit list now, aren't they?

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Speaker 5: Look, they're not part of our remit, but they certainly

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Speaker 5: are part of Predator Free twenty fifty, the wider program

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Speaker 5: that was reinforced by Conservation Minister time at Potarka today.

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Speaker 5: But look, Tittle's is safe.

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Speaker 6: The feral cats a premium.

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Speaker 5: They're prime predators. They do enormous damage and they really

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Speaker 5: do need to be taken out. But with the increasingly

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Speaker 5: sophisticated trapping equipment that we that we have that can

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Speaker 5: register whether a cat is microchipped or not, so it

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Speaker 5: won't do any harm to a domestic cat, but will

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Speaker 5: certainly deal to a feral one.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, is it a trap that only goes off

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Speaker 3: if the cat doesn't have a microchip.

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Speaker 5: Yes, so that's an increasing you know, owners on domestic

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Speaker 5: cat owners to get their cats, hopefully desext and microchip.

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Speaker 5: And I think there is a change in public opinion,

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Speaker 5: and you know a number of states in Australia it's

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Speaker 5: an offense to let your cat out at night. We

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Speaker 5: haven't reached that stage here yet, but there is increasing

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Speaker 5: awareness that cats are predators and do a lot of

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Tim, thanks for your time. Appreciate it, mate. That's

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Speaker 3: Tim Panker's Predator f fory Wellington chair either. If they're

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Speaker 3: making Wellington Predator, will all the politicians and counselors go

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Speaker 3: la la la la ah very good. Hither. I'd paid

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Speaker 3: to sit at a table with Barry Soper. He's a

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Speaker 3: rock start. That's what you think. I do sit at

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Speaker 3: a table occasionally with Barry Soaper. I'd paid one with

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Speaker 3: you occasionally when Trump comes up. There's no money in

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Speaker 3: the world I wouldn't give to not be there when

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Speaker 3: Trump comes up. Honestly, it can ruin a good meal.

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Speaker 3: He actually, by the way, he does cash for access.

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Speaker 3: Sold a dinner. He sold at dinner the other day.

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Speaker 3: Although I note the person who bought the dinner. And

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Speaker 3: I do know this person, just say, leading leading chief

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Speaker 3: executive in Auckland has not taken him up on the dinner,

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Speaker 3: so I think probably he's like me. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I really want to support the Pons and b Rugby Club.

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Speaker 3: Here's a few thousand dollars. No, I don't worry to

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Speaker 3: hold the dinner with Barry Soper. No stress about actually

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Speaker 3: cashing in on that. By the way, these are the

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Speaker 3: people who will be at the dinner tables, right if

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Speaker 3: you've got the odd what was it, eight thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: for the senior guys, there's one table with Nikola Willis,

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Speaker 3: one table with Simeon Brown. Erica's got a table, Upstein's

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Speaker 3: got a table, Mark Mitchell's got a table, Judy Collins

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Speaker 3: Nikola Gregg. Now I would be if I had if

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I'm gonna if I was gonna

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Speaker 3: make my investment pay for me, I reckon. The bargain

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Speaker 3: is to sit, don't worry about the ten thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: with Chris Luxon. No, no offense to him, but you know,

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Speaker 3: we can see what's going on with the polling, and

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Speaker 3: we can see what's probably gonna happen. So i'd be

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Speaker 3: put my money. I'd put my money into three places.

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Speaker 3: I'd go Erica or Mark Mitchell as potential future leaders,

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Speaker 3: and then I would go Simmy and Brown as a

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Speaker 3: potential future deputy or finance minister. That's where I'd be putting.

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Speaker 3: So I reckon eight thousand dollars for Simeon, eight thousand

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't spend the Judith is a good time like

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Speaker 3: that would be a fun table. She's gonna let rip

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Speaker 3: because she's on her way out, so she might be

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Speaker 3: the drunkest table.

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Speaker 6: Last title.

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Speaker 3: It's going to start like that table's going to do.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be her. But you're not going to

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Speaker 3: get any Like your cash for access is not a

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Speaker 3: very good investment because she's going out the door. There

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Speaker 3: you go, my inside it. That's my insider trading tips.

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Speaker 3: I get big. You can take. This is good financial advice,

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Speaker 3: isn't it?

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Speaker 7: And does not constitute financial advice?

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past four.

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Speaker 8: It be.

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Speaker 3: Here that my cat brings in dead minor birds and

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Speaker 3: rats most nights. Maybe he should get a salary. Nineteen

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Speaker 3: does funny.

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Speaker 6: You can hear them talking on the side of the road.

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Speaker 6: They're like, come mate, you ever go here to go?

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Speaker 6: This is your cap. I walked slowly and they walk

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Speaker 6: out mind and go, oh he's dead. Maybe next time.

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Speaker 6: It's like a little weak gang at dak. There's so funny.

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Speaker 3: Your imagination really is quite wild. Driving a car with

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Speaker 3: you would be quite an exciting time.

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Speaker 6: Yes, for many, many reasons.

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Speaker 3: So Artie years is off to the UK.

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Speaker 6: Well it looks like it. It's been reported anyway, I'll

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Speaker 6: use that classic phrase the Herald Understand News Talks b

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Speaker 6: Understand and he was going to go to R three

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Speaker 6: sixty that he bring rugby concept, but contract ends end

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Speaker 6: of this year. He's getting longer in the two i'd

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Speaker 6: suggests he's getting better and better the longer he plays.

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Speaker 6: But it looks like Wakefield Trinity going to be picking

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Speaker 6: him up and he's going over to see his his

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Speaker 6: dotage out in the north of England. And what a

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Speaker 6: great buyer and what a fantastic player. Not only that,

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Speaker 3: after half past five. Heather, Wellington has a wharf and

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Speaker 1: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

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Speaker 1: your car on your drive home it's Heather Duplicy Ellen

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Speaker 3: Now Heather. Regarding yesterday's scrap about the youngest cabinet minister

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Speaker 2: It's the World Wires on news Talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: And finally, the US Department of Transportation has stopped sending

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Speaker 3: Mitchison, US correspondence with our fellow Dan Hey Heather. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so any the suggestion is that the fifteen points are

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Speaker 11: I can't imagine them being too different than that. But

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Speaker 2: But we'll see.

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Speaker 3: And who was it the j D Vons and Witkoff

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Speaker 11: And you've got that going on over there. And then

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Speaker 3: Now, if they are they, if I'm talking to buy

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Speaker 11: we've ended up doing that. So I mean, who's to

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Speaker 11: say what they're negotiating behind closed doors. But there's got

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Speaker 11: to be a little bit of give and take, you

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Speaker 11: would have to think for them to lose some face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm gonna have to give a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they have just had the crap bombed out of them,

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Speaker 3: so i'd imagine they have to give up quite a bit. Hey,

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Speaker 3: what's this about you people trying to grow headless humans?

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Speaker 11: Don't we have some already over here? I don't know,

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Speaker 11: but well, these are billionaires. These are people that are

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Speaker 11: way out of my tax bracket here, and they're they're

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Speaker 11: cashing in on this cutting edge technology out of Boston.

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Speaker 11: And what they're trying to do is produce these genetically

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Speaker 11: engineered Okay, it starts with monkey organs, and they're hoping

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Speaker 11: that they'll grow human.

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Speaker 2: Parts right after they do that.

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Speaker 11: They're trying to grow like lungs and other body parts

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Speaker 11: right now, and they're calling them, I think body OIDs.

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Speaker 11: And so you've got lungs and kidneys and hearts from

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Speaker 11: a few cells that they're growing in labs and they're

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Speaker 11: keeping them alive to perform experiments on them. And the

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Speaker 11: CEO of this company, Mortal Dragons, told Wire magazine that

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Speaker 11: they hope that they would soon be able to produce

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Speaker 11: human bodyoids too. And I just don't like the way

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Speaker 11: between this and AI. I just don't like the way

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Speaker 11: my future is looking in another ten or fifteen years.

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Speaker 3: What was the idea that if you're a billionaire, you

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Speaker 3: take your hit and you check it on your new body.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think the idea is, if you're a billionaire,

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Speaker 11: you'll be able to get a new lung or a kidney,

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Speaker 11: or you'll say, you know, I need you to grow

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Speaker 11: this and this and this for me, and they'll do that.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: Not to like about that nice.

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: A lot to do with a new voice box, do

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like if you, if you,

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Speaker 3: if you had a bit, if you lable like an

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Speaker 3: you're down to your last kidney, we've got to take

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Speaker 3: it out. How good you throw a new.

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Speaker 11: One in theory, I think it's a wonderful idea. And

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Speaker 11: not having to wait on a list for years and

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Speaker 11: years and years and maybe not ever get somebody to

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Speaker 11: donate one but then I think you're going to be

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Speaker 11: getting into a lot of ethical things. I think you're

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Speaker 11: going to be looking at a black market out there.

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Speaker 11: And then who's to say how many people are going

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Speaker 11: to be able to afford this? I mean, right now,

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Speaker 11: you've got billionaires look at this. How long before it

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Speaker 11: comes down to where you and I can of wealth?

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Speaker 11: Maybe you can it, you know me somebody like me

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Speaker 11: that could afford this?

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Speaker 3: Hey, do you like seeing the like lease formal more? Ine?

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Speaker 11: No, No, I think it looks cheap. It looks like

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Speaker 11: a college TV station. Their ratings are in the toilet.

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Speaker 11: They're cutting staff left and right, and now it feels

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Speaker 11: like they're just throwing anything against the wall to see

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Speaker 11: it stick. You've got Anderson Cooper and anchors like Jake

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Speaker 11: Tapper doing their show from their office with these overside podcasts,

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Speaker 11: oversized podcast microphones, And what it appears to me at least,

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Speaker 11: is that they're trying to pander to a younger audience.

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Speaker 11: And Heather, here's the thing. TV still doesn't get their

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Speaker 11: core audience. And this is on the young side, thirty

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Speaker 11: five to sixty four, they'd love the younger and twenty

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Speaker 11: five to fifty four year olds. They're not going to

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Speaker 11: get the demo to switch over to watch something because

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Speaker 11: you change around a news set, you know, they're just

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Speaker 11: not Yeah, you experiment and you fail.

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Speaker 3: But it's really but you know what, they're going to

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Speaker 3: change the young ones and then at the expense of

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Speaker 3: the audience that they had already. It's such a bad idea, Dan,

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Speaker 3: thank you, I appreciate it, mate, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondents

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Speaker 3: seventeen away from five ever, do for latest funing numbers

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Speaker 3: for you, because remember it's coming out twice weekly now,

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Speaker 3: some Mondays and Wednesdays. So as of the last count,

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Speaker 3: which was on Monday two days ago, the country had

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Speaker 3: forty nine days worth of petrol, forty six days worth

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Speaker 3: of diesel, and forty three days worth of jet fuel.

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Speaker 3: Roughly half of what we have is on the water

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Speaker 3: and half is on the land, except for the diesel

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Speaker 3: where it's it looks it's much more skewed to where

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Speaker 3: really we really need those tankers to come. And we've

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Speaker 3: got eighteen days worth of jet field of diesel sorry here,

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Speaker 3: and we've got about twenty eight days on the water,

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Speaker 3: so we're looking for that coming in. All of this

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Speaker 3: is expected to arrive within the next two weeks. If

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Speaker 3: you watch closely, if you are watching it closely, you

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Speaker 3: will notice that we are ten percent. We have ten

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Speaker 3: percent less than we had two weeks ago, which I

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Speaker 3: don't think, I mean, I don't think, you know, is

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Speaker 3: something to die in a ditch over. The question though,

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Speaker 3: is have we had a disruption in the frequency? So

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Speaker 3: are we getting fewer? Like I is there something going

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Speaker 3: on that there are fewer of these guys arriving already?

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Speaker 3: You know the tankers. These guys are the tankers by

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Speaker 3: the way. So Mark Douglas, who's with Starboard Maritime Intelligence,

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Speaker 3: who've spoken to a couple of times. They watch all

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Speaker 3: the ships that can tell us what's going on here,

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Speaker 3: will be with us after six o'clock. On the same subject,

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Speaker 3: Jetstar has announced it's going to cut more than ten

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Speaker 3: percent of the scheduled flights transpasmin flights obviously between Australia

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Speaker 3: and New Zealand. It's about actually, I think to be fair,

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Speaker 3: it's about twelve percent. This is Auckland, Sydney, Auckland Brisbane flights.

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Speaker 3: They say it's temporary. We will have a chat to

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Speaker 3: Jeffrey Thomas Aviation analyst after five, Barry Sooper is next

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Speaker 3: sixteen away from.

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Speaker 1: Five Politics with centrics credit, check your customers and get

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Speaker 3: It's thirteen away from five and barrysopousing your political correspondence

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Speaker 3: here high Barry, Good afternoon, Heather. Do you care about

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Speaker 3: the Stanford email? Scale of waiting go on?

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Speaker 8: I would say about it two? If that, I mean,

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Speaker 8: who key is? I mean she's not doing what she inadvertently,

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Speaker 8: she says, pointed people to the National Party website about

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Speaker 8: the tools that are now available to schools to get

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Speaker 8: better literacy and numeracy out of the students. Now you know,

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Speaker 8: she stood up and did a video herself explaining the

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Speaker 8: the how that how it was meant to go and

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, that's her doing her job. But

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Speaker 8: unfortunately it was channeled through the National Party website and

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Speaker 8: that was the big problem. But Anderson, who of Courses,

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Speaker 8: the new education spokes spokesperson for the Labor Party, taking

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Speaker 8: over from Willow jeen Prime, who had a number of

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Speaker 8: difficulties in that role. Ginny Anderson had a few difficulties

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Speaker 8: today as well. She wanted to get into the weeds

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Speaker 8: about why the email, which basically was taken down why

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Speaker 8: it was so suddenly withdrawn? Winston Peters, though seeing the

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Speaker 8: irony in all of it, dragged the debate into the absurd.

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Speaker 3: Have a listen.

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Speaker 12: How does this temporary brief oversight for a few minutes

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Speaker 12: compare with the A fifty two million bribe to the

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Speaker 12: Public Interest Journalism Fund A.

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Speaker 13: Mister speaker, a member of the House cannot accuse anyone

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Speaker 13: of bribery.

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Speaker 12: And I did not hear that word bribery if it

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Speaker 12: was used, can remember indicate if that word was used,

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Speaker 12: it was used, and I stand behind Okay, good, you

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Speaker 12: do have to with all that coming withdraw. What I

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Speaker 12: would in the meantime suggest the member simply withdraws it

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Speaker 12: or withdraws from the house.

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Speaker 14: Who removed the video from the National Party YouTube channel

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Speaker 14: at around ten pm last night.

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Speaker 15: Mister speaker, I don't know the identity of the exact

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Speaker 15: person that.

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Speaker 12: Did it, the Honorable David Seymour.

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Speaker 16: Has the Minister considered engaging a private detective to get

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Speaker 16: to the bottom of this weighty matter. Who did it,

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Speaker 16: who took it off the you to your TUE channel,

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Speaker 16: and how do we make.

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Speaker 13: Sure it never happens again?

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Speaker 15: Mister Speaker, I know that the member is very excited

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Speaker 15: about her very first question as Education spokesperson and would

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Speaker 15: have a great conspiracy, But unfortunately, mister Speaker, there is

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Speaker 15: not one here.

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Speaker 8: I just loved the absurdity of the debate. Settlers such

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Speaker 8: a minor thing to take up the time of the House.

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Speaker 8: Why on earth you'd asked a question about it? Maybe

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Speaker 8: Ginny Anderson is now reflecting.

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Speaker 3: On being the Education withdrawal or not.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm sorry I should have said he did with

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Speaker 8: drays reluctantly.

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Speaker 3: Hey, have you got a cold watch for us?

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Speaker 6: Have I got a call?

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Speaker 8: It would be great because the electricity generation in New

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Speaker 8: Zealand that got an airing during question time in the

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Speaker 8: House today. Theoretically the lights should never go out in

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Speaker 8: this country. I did a bit of digging about how

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Speaker 8: much renewable electricity we have. Eighty to ninety percent of

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Speaker 8: our energy is renewable, mainly coming from hydro and geothermal.

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Speaker 8: Hydro accounts for about fifty five percent, geothermal twenty one percent,

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Speaker 8: wind up to nine percent, very little and sold her

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Speaker 8: up to just two percent. But like electric cars at

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Speaker 8: the moment, that's rapidly winding up. Now you'd think the

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Speaker 8: Greens Chloe Swarbrick would know about all of this. She

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Speaker 8: had a political point to make, though, despite what Chris

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Speaker 8: Luxon was telling his deputy David Seymour, here they all are.

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Speaker 17: New Zealand is the only country I know of that's

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Speaker 17: making the rather unique transition from domestic gas to international coal,

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Speaker 17: in the process worsening emissions. But that is a function

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Speaker 17: of a failed Labor Greens energy policy.

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Speaker 16: Does burning coal to generate electricity increase or decrease New

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Speaker 16: Zealand's emissions?

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Speaker 17: I think actually burning international Indonesian coal is about twice

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Speaker 17: as bad as using domestic gas.

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Speaker 18: What will it take for him to cancel this billion

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Speaker 18: dollar fossil fuel dependence fostering LNG infrastructure and instead invest

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Speaker 18: that money in renewables.

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Speaker 17: This is a country experiencing a renewables boom.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think maybe the Green should have thought

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Speaker 8: about that when they were part of a government, not

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Speaker 8: an influential part of the Labor government in the past

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Speaker 8: three years. But they should have thought about pushing that

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Speaker 8: cause there really quickly.

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Speaker 3: I'm not too stressed out about this dinner, this ten

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars dinner with Luxeen, are you?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Well, it's it's not ten thousand dollars ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's a table.

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Speaker 8: It's a table. So and I heard your very unkind

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Speaker 8: remarks about my somebody.

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Speaker 3: Well, I will point out nobody's cashing it. Have they?

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Speaker 3: They paid for it a year ago.

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Speaker 8: We've got a date, have you. We're going in a

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Speaker 8: couple of week after next, very senior businessman pays several

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Speaker 8: thousand dollars to have dinner with me. But it's a

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Speaker 8: good cause because it's for the Pontston b Rugby Club.

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Speaker 3: And sorry, I didn't realize that your your date plans

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Speaker 3: with each other were that well advanced.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think I inquired over your availability here though

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Speaker 8: maybe you're forgetting.

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Speaker 3: No, I have nothing in my diary. There is nothing

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Speaker 3: in my ear.

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Speaker 6: Oh really, well you must have forgot.

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Speaker 3: That's the end of that. Yes, it's completely running.

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Speaker 8: It's been taken up. And I think that person who

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Speaker 8: said that I'd love to have dinner with me?

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Speaker 3: Lord, how did this become about Barry instead of lux

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Speaker 3: And well, because senior political correspondent over and out, even away.

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Speaker 1: From five the headlines and the hard questions, it's the

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast one.

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Speaker 19: Hundred and forty three thousand families get fifty dollars the

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Speaker 19: bill three hundred and seventy three million. Nikola Willis Finance

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Speaker 19: ministers with us.

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Speaker 14: Given ourselves a clear exit, rampantly conscious that those low

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Speaker 14: to middle income families that we're targeting, their petrol bills

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Speaker 14: have already gone up thirty or forty dollars more.

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Speaker 19: You don't actually know that the so called families you're targeting,

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Speaker 19: you don't know what they drive. If the family is

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Speaker 19: driving an ev their petro bill hasn't gone up at all.

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Speaker 19: If that family walks, it hasn't gone up at all.

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Speaker 19: The person driving the economy is running the diesel and

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Speaker 19: you gave them nothing.

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Speaker 14: Well, you are right that those family circumstances will vary.

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Speaker 14: But regardless of their circumstances, they will be facing increasing costs.

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Speaker 19: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 19: a Vida News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen NASA's planning to build a base on

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Speaker 3: the Moon. They're going to spend twenty billion dollars they

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Speaker 3: want to They want to spend that over the next

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Speaker 3: seven years and have basically a base there so they

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Speaker 3: can have a couple of moon landings, A year and

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Speaker 3: people living their semi permanently. We're going to have a

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Speaker 3: chat to josh Aurocky, he's from Stardome. It's an astronomer

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Speaker 3: there to see where this is realistic or not. In

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Speaker 3: twenty minutes time, now, did you see that someone the

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Speaker 3: situation with the gas stations has gone to the police.

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Speaker 3: So someone called the cops on a couple of guys

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Speaker 3: who were filling up barrels at a gas station in

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Speaker 3: Lower Hut. It was the Gull station on Eastern Hut Road.

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Speaker 3: Happened on Monday. Martin Martin was the one. Martin was.

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Speaker 3: Martin was not impressed with what he saw. He saw

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Speaker 3: a truck park up, had multiple large barrels in the back.

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Speaker 3: He reckons, about three of them, he reckons. Each of

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Speaker 3: them were able to hold about two hundred liters of fuel,

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Speaker 3: and there are a couple of guys filling them up.

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Speaker 3: What he didn't like was the guys were acting suspiciously.

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Speaker 3: To his mind, they had their hoodies or jumpers kind

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Speaker 3: of covering their heads, and that he thought they were

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Speaker 3: trying to hide the vehicle's license plate. I thought this

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Speaker 3: a reasonable conclusion to have reached, because the tarp that

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Speaker 3: was lining. The inside of the truck had fallen out

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Speaker 3: and half covered that, So you know, it could have

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Speaker 3: been an accident, could have been deliberate. Who knows Martin

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Speaker 3: thought deliberate. He was quote pretty angry about the volume

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Speaker 3: of fuel he claims was taken. When I saw it,

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Speaker 3: I knew it was wrong. Took a couple of seconds

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Speaker 3: to sink in. I yelled out, Hey, what do you

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Speaker 3: think you're doing? And he just said sorry. So Martin

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Speaker 3: did what any reasonable person would do. He called the cops,

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Speaker 3: called the cops. Cops said him, mate, it's not illegal

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Speaker 3: to fill up your barrels and then pay for your fuel.

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Speaker 20: Cool.

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Speaker 3: I was really confused about that, but yeah, no further

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Speaker 3: action was taken, but Martin spoke to Stuff about it.

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Speaker 3: There you go, told you it was going to go.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be more of that. By the way, he

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Speaker 3: was gonna bet angry. Jeff Thomas aviation analysts will bet

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Speaker 3: us next on Jet Star canceling all those Transpasman flights.

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Speaker 3: Newstalks had been.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 3: Good Afternoon Jets is cutting flights to New Zealand. About

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Speaker 3: twelve percent of their trans Tasman routes in May are gone,

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Speaker 3: and this includes flights between Auckland and Sydney and Auckland

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Speaker 3: and Brisbane. It is, of course, the jet fuel costs

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Speaker 3: that are to blame. Jeffrey Thomas is an aviation commentator

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Speaker 3: out of Perth and the founder of Daily Airline News

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Speaker 3: and with.

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Speaker 9: Us Hi Jeffrey, Greetings are Heather?

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Speaker 3: Why are they cutting trans Tasman routes? First?

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Speaker 9: Okay, so with low cost airlines they're very priced sensitive.

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Speaker 9: As we know, they've got the much cheap affairs. The

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Speaker 9: problem then becomes their passengers typically don't want to pay

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Speaker 9: that extra fuel costs on their airfare, and so low

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Speaker 9: cost airlines all around the world are cutting back on

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Speaker 9: services and consolidating services because of the impact of the

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Speaker 9: additional fuel cost, whereas premium carriers are less impacted because

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Speaker 9: they're the tolerance of their passengers for a higher fair

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Speaker 9: is much greater.

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Speaker 3: Would you expect to see them also charactmistically within Australia.

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Speaker 9: Look, it's certainly possible. They will be looking to conserve

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Speaker 9: fuel wherever they can, obviously, and again the same price

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Speaker 9: sensitivity applies in Australia, as New Zealand, as around the world. Yes,

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Speaker 9: they'll certainly be looking to do some pairing back. And

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Speaker 9: at the same time, you know, premium carriers are also

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Speaker 9: looking to consolidate services where they can. If one particular

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Speaker 9: flight or a couple of flights are not full, then

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Speaker 9: they'll say, look, how can we save some fuel here

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Speaker 9: and save some fuel there. So I think that's going

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Speaker 9: to be an ongoing situation as long as this problem

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Speaker 9: occurs in the Middle East.

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Speaker 3: Okay, they say it's temporary. What does temporary mean? Do

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Speaker 3: you think?

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Speaker 9: Well, that's a very good question, and normally you, under

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Speaker 9: normal circumstances, you could make a really fairly good educated guess.

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Speaker 9: But I think at the moment everybody would agree we

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Speaker 9: don't have normal circumstances at all. With some of the

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Speaker 9: folks that are involved in this. However, I think pressure

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Speaker 9: is being applied. I think there's some dynamics that are

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Speaker 9: playing out domestically in the United States with soaring fuel

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Speaker 9: prices and the economies in serious trouble, and therefore the

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Speaker 9: pressure is being applied to end this conflict as quickly

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Speaker 9: as possible. We've also got Russia and China putting on

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Speaker 9: immense pressure as well to bring this to a close,

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Speaker 9: and we are getting indications that some discussions supposedly are

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Speaker 9: taking place or some reaching out. So to answer your question,

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Speaker 9: I'm hoping that in the next two to three weeks

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Speaker 9: we may see this situation abating. How long it would

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Speaker 9: then take for the fuel supply line to normalize, You're

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Speaker 9: probably talking a couple of months before that starts to

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Speaker 9: get back to normal and the pricing hopefully returns to

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Speaker 9: something that's reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Jeffy, it's been really good to talk to you. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for your time. That's Jeffrey Thomas, aviation commentator, founder

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Speaker 3: of Daily Airline News. Ten past five.

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Speaker 2: Heather Do quite a significant.

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Speaker 3: Background from the government on its plans to amend the

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Speaker 3: fishing laws. New Zealand first was planning changes that would

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Speaker 3: essentially allow commercial fishes to sell undersized fish. They're now

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Speaker 3: not going to do that, and the leader, Winston Peters

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Speaker 3: is with us high Winston, Hello, why do you change

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Speaker 3: your mind?

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Speaker 20: Well, thank me. We were hearing from a lot of

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Speaker 20: people and the issue was very very confusing, and the

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Speaker 20: end that it was one or the other, and we

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Speaker 20: decided that they were right for two profound reasons. One

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Speaker 20: is that it was being listened to, it to what

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Speaker 20: we were trying to do. And the second is that

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Speaker 20: if you were new immigrant and many have been caught

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Speaker 20: now with undersized shellfish and undersized fish, they don't know

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Speaker 20: that there's a law, and all we do is reinforcing

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Speaker 20: the paper that there's no laws when the counters minimal size.

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Speaker 20: So in the end we made a decision and said no,

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Speaker 20: let's dump it down, then go with what people think

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Speaker 20: and see weekend sort it out.

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Speaker 3: Now the National Party appears to be taking credit for this.

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Speaker 3: I mean the Prime Minister has suggested that he had

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Speaker 3: a meeting with Shane Jones this morning and it was

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Speaker 3: discussed then that the issue was dropped there after. Is

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Speaker 3: that correct?

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Speaker 20: It was a meeting with Shane Jones. That is true.

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Speaker 20: The issue was dropped there after, but the Prime Minister's

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Speaker 20: office was warned that the purpose of the meeting would

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Speaker 20: be for us to say we are going to change

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Speaker 20: the law.

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Speaker 3: So you guys had already taken that decision yourselves.

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Speaker 20: That's right. Well, Shane is a minister. Well, to tell

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Speaker 20: you the truth, we've been talking about it for days

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Speaker 20: and we confirmed it this very early this morning, chronologically,

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Speaker 20: I don't know, hours before the meeting with Lusson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, because he I mean, the thing is, Shane Jones

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Speaker 3: has been pretty vocal in defending this until the very

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Speaker 3: last minute, then, hasn't he Because just a couple of

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Speaker 3: days ago he was calling critics noisy voices.

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Speaker 20: Well, to be honest with my colleague, Shane Joanes, that

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Speaker 20: of a consign to describe people that way, but he's

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Speaker 20: not beyond reason. And we said to him, Shane, this

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Speaker 20: issue is getting them all along vibes and from a

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Speaker 20: lot of people who are recreational fishing, and of course

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Speaker 20: they don't want to the outcome, which is so you

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Speaker 20: catched all the sundersized fish and so they're dead, so

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Speaker 20: you throw them back in the water and recycled the life,

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Speaker 20: so to speak, as opposed to what your planning to

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Speaker 20: do bring them back on land dead and dump them

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Speaker 20: and do that sort of stuff. I said, stick to

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Speaker 20: the person one to going to say, that's where they

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Speaker 20: started and we will not be wasting outside a time

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Speaker 20: of unnecessary controversy, and he agreed.

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Speaker 3: All right, Winston, thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: This Winston Peter's New Zealand first leader, Heather do listen.

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Speaker 3: I'm quite pleased to see this. I think finally the

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Speaker 3: government looks like it's going to answer the question that

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Speaker 3: I've been trying to ask various guests.

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Speaker 9: I tried.

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Speaker 3: I tried it a couple of times last week. I

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Speaker 3: did it. I try to ask I can't remember that. Oh,

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Speaker 3: it was the Chapper Run's channel channel infrastructure, you know

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Speaker 3: up there that's all the old Marsden Point oil refinery,

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Speaker 3: the Chappy run that. Now, try to ask him. And

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Speaker 3: then the next hour I try to ask them the

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Speaker 3: kind of well listen, they both kind of shut me down,

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Speaker 3: and I thought it's no point hammering this. The question

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Speaker 3: was basically, what is it going to take for us

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Speaker 3: to get to fuel rationing? Because it's fine, I'm happy,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy the way that we're carrying on at the moment.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do fue rationing, but I'd also

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Speaker 3: like to know sort of at what point, you know,

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Speaker 3: how many days of fuel have we got before we

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Speaker 3: start to go Well, that's not enough let's ration ask

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Speaker 3: them that they weren't happy to talk about it, but

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Speaker 3: it looks like they've given it a bit of thought.

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Speaker 3: Maybe they just hadn't thought about it enough. The thought

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Speaker 3: about it obviously over the last week. They are going

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Speaker 3: to answer that question for us, by the looks of things,

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Speaker 3: on Friday, because they're going to give us, They've said

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Speaker 3: they're going to give us a clearer idea on Friday

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Speaker 3: of what it will take to trigger us into the

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Speaker 3: next level of the fuel saving framework. So put that

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Speaker 3: in your diary if you've also been wondering, we'll finally

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Speaker 3: have an answer to that. Fourteen past five. Okay, So

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Speaker 3: here's a wine deal that is so good that we

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Speaker 3: actually have to keep the full details a bit of

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Speaker 3: medal winning five star and ninety three out of one

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Speaker 3: Wine Dot Co Dot in Z. But let's just say

874
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Speaker 3: that you're getting a pretty bloody good bottle of Marlborough

875
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Speaker 3: Sava Blanc for just nine ninety nine as part of

876
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: this mystery deal. And to seal the deal, you pay

877
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: just one dollar per case delivery to your door anywhere

878
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. Conditions apply. Gold medal winning five star

879
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: rated Marlboro savn Blanc going out the door add an

880
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 3: incredible nine ninety nine per bottle. Limited stocks, so get

881
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Speaker 3: in quick order online right now. The website again, the

882
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: Goodwine Dot Co Dot NZ or call eight hundred double

883
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Speaker 3: six to two, double six to.

884
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Speaker 2: Two together do for Cellen.

885
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 3: Heare that we're going on holiday over Easter. I'm going

886
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 3: to be taking the boat. I'm going to go camping.

887
00:41:58,360 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: I want to fill the boat up with gas. I'm

888
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: tending to do some boating. Am I going to get asked?

889
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: What are you doing when I'm filling up my boat,

890
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 3: and should I be reconsidering? Yes, you probably are. If

891
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: Martin from Lower Heart sees you like you saw the

892
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: other guys with the forty four gallon drums, might in

893
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 3: fact all the cops on you, So be careful. Eighteen

894
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: past five. Now NASA is planning to build a base

895
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: on the Moon. The NASA administrator says, once the bas

896
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 3: is complete, he wants to see two moon landings a year,

897
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: and he wants to see astronauts living in the base

898
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 3: semi permanently. Apparently cost about twenty billion dollars in the

899
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: next seven years. Josh Araki is an astronomer at Stardom

900
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 3: and is with us. Now, Hi, Josh Koda, is this realistic?

901
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 9: Oh?

902
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 13: I would love to say yes. I think the goals

903
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 13: are very realistic. I think the budget is very unrealistic.

904
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 13: What more than that, Yeah, I mean it's you know,

905
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 13: you've got to look at the wider picture. Is that

906
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 13: since the Apollo missions, you know, NASA has said they

907
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 13: want to go to the Moon, right, they want to

908
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 13: go back, They want to be sustainable, they want to

909
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 13: have a long term isn't there And they kind of

910
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 13: haven't really solidified plans for for decades really, So yeah,

911
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 13: I think, you know, their big announcement of wanting to

912
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 13: build a moon base, I think is good and they

913
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 13: should want to do that. I think having solid plans

914
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 13: is awesome. But you know, there was also no announcement

915
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 13: of extra funding, of new resources, of how they're going

916
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 13: to do this, So it seems like a bit of

917
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,439
Speaker 13: a bit of a fever dream at this point.

918
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Speaker 3: Now, why should we want to be on the Moon?

919
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: What's the point?

920
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 13: I think there's not one answer. You know, I could

921
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 13: talk about the you know, the human element of you know,

922
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 13: we're explorers and we're very innately curious, and you know,

923
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 13: we're always driven to do these things. You know, why

924
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 13: do we climb the tallest mountain? So I think we're

925
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 13: always going to want to do them. But I think

926
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Speaker 13: for you know, NASA specifically, there's a it's not just

927
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Speaker 13: the scientific gain of going to the Moon. There's a

928
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 13: lot of politics that plan to its space explosion is

929
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Speaker 13: incredibly political, and there's huge abount of national pride. And

930
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 13: China has been on America's heels for the last few

931
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Speaker 13: years and there's kind of proven time time again that

932
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Speaker 13: they are if America doesn't step up there are going

933
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Speaker 13: to be a leader in space exploration. I think America

934
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Speaker 13: doesn't want that to happen.

935
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Speaker 3: Now tell me honestly, Okay, every time you hear Elon

936
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Speaker 3: Musk say anything about what he plans to do in space,

937
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 3: do you roll your eyes or Josh, do you think, yep,

938
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Speaker 3: that man he's a thought leader here, he's going to

939
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Speaker 3: do it.

940
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

941
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Speaker 13: I mean, look some of his ideas. I think, yeah, absolutely,

942
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 13: that's awesome. But I mean, you know, back in twenty eighteen,

943
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 13: Elon must say that we were going to be in

944
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Speaker 13: the moon in twenty twenty three, which was three years ago,

945
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Speaker 13: and we're still not there. So I think if you

946
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Speaker 13: add ten to fifteen years to anything that Elon slash

947
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Speaker 13: NASA Evan says, I think that gives you a much

948
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Speaker 13: more realistic timeframe.

949
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Speaker 3: Love it, Josh, thank you very much, mate, Appreciate it, Josh,

950
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Speaker 3: Alducky stardome astronaut. Hither we're not going to astronaut astronomer.

951
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 3: Very different. Hither we're not going to run out of diesel.

952
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: This is just scaremongering. The price will get so high

953
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: we will all cut back. Ben. I tend to agree

954
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: with you, and I think that. Do you remember at

955
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 3: the start of COVID, ants was reminding me of this

956
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: the other day, and I'd forgotten because I was doing

957
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: mental blocking for my own sanity. But at the start

958
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 3: of COVID, people were saying, Oh, you've got to have

959
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 3: four weeks worth of food in your pantry and in

960
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 3: your freeze. Otherwise you're going to die because you're not

961
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: going to be able to eat because you're going to

962
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: be locked down. Remember that generally what and oh, it's

963
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: going to be thirty percent unemployment. Generally the worst case

964
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: scenario absolutely never eventuates. But you know, let's just get

965
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 3: an update on how much diesel we had, because diesel

966
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 3: is what actually powers the economy. So how much have

967
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: we got coming in? Have we got enough out there

968
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: on the boats? We have a chat to Mark Douglas

969
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 3: of Starboard Maritime, the people who watch all the ship

970
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 3: says with us after six five twenty one.

971
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 2: Cutting through the noise to get the facts.

972
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: It's heatherdfer Cell and drive with one Zealand coverage like

973
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: no one else news talks.

974
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 3: There'd be by the way, Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,

975
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: is with us just after half past talk us through

976
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 3: where he thinks the thing is going with the war,

977
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 3: with the run and whether it's over five twenty four. Now, look,

978
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 3: I understand the sentiment of the Central Hawks, Bay Mayor

979
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: and calling for the resurrection of the bi key we

980
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: made campaign to save the likes of McCain's from closure.

981
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,320
Speaker 3: But you know, and I know, and I think probably

982
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 3: in his heart he knows it's a pointless exercise because

983
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 3: it won't work. It hasn't it never has. We did

984
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: this in the nineteen thirties, we did it in the

985
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: nineteen eighties, we did it in the nineteen nineties, we

986
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: did it in the naughties. And if we're still not

987
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: buying key we made after nearly one hundred years of

988
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 3: pushing it as an idea, it's because being told to

989
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: buy something doesn't make you buy something. In fact, I

990
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 3: don't know if you realize this, but we are actually

991
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: still running a buy key we made campaign. We are

992
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 3: not running it. Business New Zealand took it over in

993
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: the late naughties when the government dropped it, and they

994
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 3: are still running it. But it's not working, is it?

995
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 3: And you know why that is because it's about price. Hein's,

996
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: Watti's and McCain at closing down because what they make

997
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: is too expensive for us. Now, we could pay seven

998
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 3: dollars eighteen akg for McCain's baby beans, or we could

999
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: go buy PAMs for four ninety nine a cagy. You

1000
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 3: could buy McCain's mixed veggies at five ninety nine a cage.

1001
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 3: You could buy PAMs at three dollars sixty nine a cagy.

1002
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 3: It is absolutely a no brainer. Even if we cut

1003
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: the red tape, that is adding to the cost of

1004
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: doing business, Even if we magically dropped the price of power,

1005
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: that is also adding exponentially to the cost of doing

1006
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 3: business and is apparently the main reasons why so much

1007
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: manufacturing has shut down in the last two or three

1008
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 3: years in this country. New Zealand would still not be

1009
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: competitive globally. Our minimum wage is too high. Now we're

1010
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: just too expensive as a country. We can't compete with

1011
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 3: the likes of China that can pump out really cheap

1012
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: frozen carrots. Now it's not to say I mean I

1013
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: feel for the regions that are affected by these closures.

1014
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 3: It is very difficult to replace this kind of work.

1015
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 3: I feel for the workers who are losing their jobs.

1016
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 3: I mean let's be honest about it. The doll is

1017
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: going to be the future for a lot of them.

1018
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 3: There is, honestly, though, nothing that the rest of us

1019
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: can do short of a muldoon esque intervention to subsidize

1020
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: particular industries in parts of this country. And we all

1021
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: know how that ends because we've been there in the

1022
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: nineteen seventies and eighties. So let's face it, buying key

1023
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: we made is now just too expensive for a lot

1024
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 3: of kiwis ever do for cllen Now, I went to

1025
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 3: the Counting Crows last night, okay, and I didn't sing

1026
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 3: didn't sing along because I said it got a little

1027
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 3: bit of a funny thing throat and I learned about

1028
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: what happened with Lenny Kravitz. And you don't want to

1029
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: test it because he count do your job. But even

1030
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: if I wanted to sing along, I couldn't have sung along.

1031
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: Now this is this is I'm gonna moan about something here.

1032
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: So this is the second time I've been to Sea

1033
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 3: Counting Grows with the same girls. Second time. The same

1034
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 3: thing happened in both performances, which is that old mate

1035
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 3: who used to have the dreads and has chopped them off.

1036
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: Obviously doesn't like performing mister Jones, which is their big banger, right,

1037
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: so he doesn't sing it like the record. He just

1038
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: he just sings it real randomly, like.

1039
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Speaker 21: This baby, I just buy myself agree, mister Charles looking

1040
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 21: into the future along with that, if she's looking at you,

1041
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 21: she's looking at me.

1042
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: What just happened? That's not the song that you know,

1043
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: because you know, when you go to a concert, you're like,

1044
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 3: oh man, I've got I've got. It's gonna be yellow Taxi,

1045
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: it's gonna be accidentally in love, it's gonna be mister Jones.

1046
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I'm gonna paak my beers like

1047
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have three bees. I'm gonna peake at a

1048
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 3: round about the time they start ripping out mister Jones,

1049
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna sing along. You cannot sing along with

1050
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 3: somebody who's not even singing along with his own song.

1051
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 3: It's really ripped my andy last night. It really did.

1052
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: He go, I want to be a lion.

1053
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to j.

1054
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 21: Wanna be big stars. But we got so many, so many,

1055
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 21: so many different reasons for that.

1056
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 3: No, it's so annoying, isn't it? Answer we just annoying,

1057
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: shall we? Yeah, just get out of it.

1058
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 6: I just do.

1059
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: I'm a cop mansel from.

1060
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Speaker 22: Shot it.

1061
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 2: How continue? Hard questions? Strong opinion?

1062
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: Hither do for cell and drive with one New Zealand

1063
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: tend the power of satellite mobile news talks.

1064
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Speaker 2: It'd be.

1065
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the same thing happens to me at Accounting Crow's concert.

1066
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 3: It was gutting and that was nineteen ninety nine in London.

1067
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: So all mate, it's been hating his song for about

1068
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Speaker 3: twenty seven years. Had all standing by Thomas Skrimser Jack

1069
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: tame this evening. It's twenty four away from six. Now

1070
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 3: it looks increasingly like the war in Iran could soon

1071
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 3: be over. Peace talks to you to be held in Pakistan.

1072
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 3: The US has sent a fifteen point plan to Iran.

1073
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Speaker 3: Iran is allowing some ships to pass through the strait

1074
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Speaker 3: up Jumos as long as they are no threats. Matt

1075
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Speaker 3: Terrell is Marco Rubio's former chief of staff.

1076
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Speaker 23: I Matt, hey, great to be with you.

1077
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Speaker 3: How do you rate the chances that it's over?

1078
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Speaker 23: Well, look, I think if your faller. President Trump is

1079
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Speaker 23: saying he's seen it. Iran wants a deal and it's

1080
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 23: about time, Frankly, I mean, look, the truth is President

1081
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Speaker 23: Trump's is day one, has wanted to reach a deal.

1082
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Speaker 23: This war started because Iran didn't want to come to

1083
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Speaker 23: the negotiating table on good faith. So we'll see it

1084
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 23: takes shape here appears. I think that the White House

1085
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Speaker 23: is optimistic that we could be coming to do an

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Speaker 23: end here. We'll see what happens with these upcoming negotiations.

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Speaker 23: But the real he will be in his fifteen point plan,

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Speaker 23: does Iran follow it? And will the negotiate in good faith? Here?

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Speaker 4: That's the key.

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Speaker 3: How do you write the chances that they will accept it?

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Speaker 3: If it is the same one that he presented last year?

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Speaker 23: Well, I think the chances are much higher this time around.

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Speaker 23: I mean, look, the truth is Iran's being decimated right now,

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Speaker 23: from the air to the sea. We've seen US forces,

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Speaker 23: as really forces, crumble this regime layer by a layer,

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Speaker 23: if you will, so, look, I think the answer your

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Speaker 23: question Iran I suspect is really on their heels right

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Speaker 23: now and recognize as they are. But with that said,

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Speaker 23: this is a regime that appears never give up. I mean, look,

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Speaker 23: in spite of the great success that the US had

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Speaker 23: and decimating their raining capabilities, nuclear capabilities. During the Twelve

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Speaker 23: Day War. On the heels of that war, in June,

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Speaker 23: we saw Iran trying to once again start back up

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Speaker 23: their military capabilities. So the truth is, I think it's

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Speaker 23: a different time, different place Iran and the Ranian regime

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Speaker 23: is being decimated right now. I think that's critical in

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Speaker 23: terms of decision making on their r What.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the prizes that Trump brickings Iran has

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Speaker 3: offered them.

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Speaker 23: Well, we'll see what happens with this fifteen point plan.

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Speaker 23: I would suspect, and again I haven't seen the plan,

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Speaker 23: but you know, the truth is, I think we're looking

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Speaker 23: at likely a desire to have Iran turnover all sixty

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Speaker 23: percent of riching uranium, you know, suspect, ensuring the inspectors

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Speaker 23: can get into Iran anytime, having those inspectors there to

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Speaker 23: ensure Iran is not moving forward a nuclear program. At

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Speaker 23: the end of the day, this is not just a

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Speaker 23: bucking Iran to stop their new nuclear capabilities today. It's

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Speaker 23: ensure they never start them once again. And of course

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Speaker 23: about opening this trade up her moves as well. That's

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Speaker 23: mission critical and maybe there will be and I'm not

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Speaker 23: saying this is the case, but potentially repaying the US,

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Speaker 23: you know, for what has occurred here in terms of

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Speaker 23: the financial cost of this of this horrific war. But

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Speaker 23: in my opinion, the right war that need to be

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Speaker 23: waged by President Trump is really forces given the threat

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Speaker 23: that ran ahead of the world.

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Speaker 3: Now, Israel apparently wants to keep on bombing in order

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Speaker 3: to achieve its military aims. Is that possible, Like, if

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Speaker 3: the US pulls out, they surely have to stop as well,

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Speaker 3: don't they.

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Speaker 23: Well, I think what we've seen for the past two years, frankly,

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Speaker 23: is that President Trump has developed a very unique and

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Speaker 23: solid relationship with the Prime Minister of Israel. I think

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Speaker 23: mutually they have great respect for each other, and so

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Speaker 23: I think they're gonna be in sync here in terms

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Speaker 23: of what happens next. So the answer question, I think

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Speaker 23: there Israel, frank is going to file the lead of

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Speaker 23: the United States here. I think the world right now

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Speaker 23: is recognizing that fol you know, found the lead of

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Speaker 23: President Trump. We've already seen Japan, for example, seen that

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Speaker 23: they may very well put in place military forces if

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Speaker 23: need be. Here other countries that are frankly appearing to

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Speaker 23: step up more now but look, we are a different

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Speaker 23: place today, it appears. But President Trump and the White House,

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Speaker 23: Iran is ready to make a deal. Let's see what

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Speaker 23: Iran does here. But this is a positive step forward,

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Speaker 23: I think. I think it's a recognition among this regime

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Speaker 23: about how they we are on their keels right now. Again,

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Speaker 23: as I mentioned earlier, it's just been decimated right now

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Speaker 23: in terms of the layers of leadership with this regime.

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Speaker 3: Matt, it's good to talk to you as always. Thank you, mate,

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Speaker 3: is Matt Terrell, former chief of staff and Marco Rubio

1154
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Speaker 3: is coming up twenty away from six.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name

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Speaker 1: you can trust locally and globally.

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Speaker 3: On the huddle with us this evening, Thomas Scrimger, Maximum

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Speaker 3: Institute and Jack Tame, host of Saturday Mornings in Q

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Speaker 3: and A Highlights Jack, how do you write the chances

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Speaker 3: that this war is essentially over?

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Speaker 13: Honestly, I reckon anyone who can guess what's going to

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Speaker 13: happen with this with any sort of confidence or certainty

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Speaker 13: is just bessing at the moment. I mean, I really,

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Speaker 13: I really hope it's ever soon. I think this is

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Speaker 13: a positive step. The fact that the two sides of

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Speaker 13: the US and Iran are talking is obviously a positive step.

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Speaker 13: But honestly, who could see how the sun follows. It

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Speaker 13: feels like it's perfectly possible that they could reach some

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Speaker 13: sort of agreement. It also feels perfectly possible that Iran

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Speaker 13: could keep up at the asymmetric measures for ages, could

1171
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Speaker 13: keep threatening shipping through the straight up or moves for

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Speaker 13: months to come. I just don't think we know, Thomas well.

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Speaker 24: I think the oil price, as much as people are

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Speaker 24: really hating how high it is at the moment, the

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Speaker 24: oil market, if they thought the war was going to

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Speaker 24: go on for ages longer, we'd probably actually expect to

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Speaker 24: see oil being more expensive than the But you know,

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Speaker 24: do you trust oil futures traders is the great predictors

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Speaker 24: of the world. I'm not really sure. I think you

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Speaker 24: nailed something in your question about Israel perhaps wanting to

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Speaker 24: go along longer than the States do. Trump domestically in

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Speaker 24: America is probably facing a lot of pressure to wind

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Speaker 24: things up for Israel, and actually the Arab Golf States

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Speaker 24: are probably wanting to quietly keep going further because they

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Speaker 24: have their own kind of rivalries with Iran.

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Speaker 3: Actually, that's a fair point. Can they, Thomas though, go

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Speaker 3: on without the US?

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Speaker 24: I don't think they can if the Americans lean on them.

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Speaker 24: Now the Arab States are essentially talking to America and

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Speaker 24: trying to urge America on. They're not doing things themselves.

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Speaker 24: Israel could in terms of they have the capacity to

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Speaker 24: do it, but I imagine any peace deal with America

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Speaker 24: would be trying to tamp them down as well. So no,

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Speaker 24: I don't think Israel will operate one right.

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Speaker 13: It really comes back to the question of what Trump's

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Speaker 13: initial intentions were. Right Like, it seems perfectly feasible to

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Speaker 13: me that they could reach some sort of a deal

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Speaker 13: that actually leaves the Iranian regime perhaps more empowered than

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Speaker 13: they were before this conflict began. I mean, keep in

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Speaker 13: mind the IY Toller was in his mid eighties. He

1201
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Speaker 13: was hardly a young man. He probably would have died

1202
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Speaker 13: within the next couple of years. Now his son's in

1203
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Speaker 13: place arguably more hard line. I mean, the regime not

1204
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Speaker 13: necessarily well, that's true, but the regime itself is potentially

1205
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 13: more entrenched. I mean, your previous guests said they've been decimated, true,

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Speaker 13: but they're also layered in a way that's completely different

1207
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Speaker 13: to the likes of Venezuela. You look at the Revolutionary Guard,

1208
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Speaker 13: for example, it's just not at all comparable to other conflicts.

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Speaker 3: I also think Jack and I think it is a

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Speaker 3: fair point to make, but in saying that, we always

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Speaker 3: seem to overlook in this discussion that we're having just

1212
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Speaker 3: how much of a bloody pounding these guys have taken. Right,

1213
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 3: if your military has taken a smashing like this, you

1214
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: are simply not as powerful as you were.

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Speaker 13: I totally agree with that, except that it is asymmetric.

1216
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 13: So all the Iranians need to do to drive up

1217
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 13: the you know, to potentially drive countries like New Zealand

1218
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Speaker 13: into economic crises is put a few minds out off

1219
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 13: the coast of the Strait of hor Moves. Is to

1220
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Speaker 13: send a speedboat or two out with musicians into the

1221
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 13: Persian Gulf, and they can create absolute chaos. I mean, sure,

1222
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 13: military versus military, the Iranians are totally decimated, but the

1223
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 13: point is that in this day and age, all they

1224
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 13: need is a few things and they can cause distation.

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Speaker 3: So I would you not agree they are, though at

1226
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 3: greater risk now of internal descent right. Having the they

1227
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Speaker 3: weakened internally.

1228
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Speaker 13: Except that that people in Iran first of all aren't armed,

1229
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Speaker 13: second of all, have no way of organizing any sort

1230
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Speaker 13: of coherent political opposition. I mean, keep in mind that

1231
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 13: the Internet has switched off most of the time. People

1232
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 13: within Iran don't have a way to communicate with one another,

1233
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Speaker 13: so it's not like they can rise up like you

1234
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Speaker 13: might see in other countries. They don't have those kind

1235
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Speaker 13: of options available. So I think one of the feasible

1236
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Speaker 13: scenarios is that we get some sort of a piece

1237
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 13: deal where Donald Trump says, Hurrah, mission accomplished.

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Speaker 25: America has done a.

1239
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Speaker 13: Great thing here. But at the same time, the Iranian

1240
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 13: regime says.

1241
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Speaker 2: Look at us.

1242
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 13: We have resisted the great oppressor, the great imperialists. Our

1243
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 13: regime is stronger than ever. Sure, we've taken a bit

1244
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Speaker 13: of a pounding in terms of conventional military but we've

1245
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 13: managed to stick a middle finger up the rest of

1246
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Speaker 13: the world. And look what we've achieved. And I think

1247
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Speaker 13: that is maybe the likely scenario.

1248
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Speaker 3: All Right, We're going to come back and have a

1249
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 3: chat about the National Party donation dinner, the fundraising dinner.

1250
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 3: Sixteen away from.

1251
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Speaker 1: Six the huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the

1252
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: only truly global brand.

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Speaker 3: Right, you're back with the huddle, Thomas Scrimger and Jack

1254
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 3: same right, Thomas. If you had a spare eighth sound,

1255
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 3: let's say eight to ten thousand dollars and you could

1256
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Speaker 3: go to the National Party fundraising dinner, whose table would

1257
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Speaker 3: you choose to sit at?

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Speaker 24: Well? I think you know you got to you got

1259
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 24: to think about who's you know, if you're lobbying for

1260
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 24: particular policy interests, you know obviously you go for the

1261
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 24: relevant minister. But I think it really is is the forecasting.

1262
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Speaker 24: Who do you think is going to be there down

1263
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 24: the line? Yeah, and you know probably if you're doing it,

1264
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 24: I think you get more value for money spreading your

1265
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 24: money around and gown for people a bit junior but

1266
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 24: a bit ambitious. You know, you want to have been

1267
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 24: there early. If they're already important in making decisions, they're

1268
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 24: not even listening. Their mind is somewhere else. They're thinking

1269
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Speaker 24: about their meetings tomorrow. I don't think if you've got

1270
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Speaker 24: an existing minister, it's value for money for shadowy lobby.

1271
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: Does that just leave you Nicola Grigg?

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00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:40,919
Speaker 24: Then well, I mean James is going to be overpromised.

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 24: You know, Nikola Gregg up and comer.

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Speaker 3: You know, no, no, Thomas, No, You've got it wrong.

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Speaker 3: Nicola Gregg is eight thousand, same as Samian, same as Erica,

1276
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Speaker 3: so it's it's the same value. So I think I

1277
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Speaker 3: like the way you're thinking about this, But I want

1278
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Speaker 3: to hear what you've got to say, Jake, what do

1279
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: you think is more? And Q going no, no more more, No,

1280
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Speaker 3: we're just giving.

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Speaker 13: Her are I feel like Mauren would be a good

1282
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 13: fun Marien's got some more stories because I mean, like

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Speaker 13: you know, policy schmallcy you can talk about that. Sure

1284
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 13: you can try and.

1285
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Speaker 2: You want to try it out?

1286
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 3: All three times she got hit by lightning?

1287
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Speaker 13: The two or three that was my I mean that's

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Speaker 13: my first question is like what what would what what

1289
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 13: distinguished the times in which she got struck by lightning?

1290
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Speaker 2: How did that feel?

1291
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Speaker 13: I think that would be interesting. I'd love to talk

1292
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Speaker 13: submarines with Chris Pink because I know he's into submarines

1293
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 13: in a big way, and just.

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Speaker 3: Make up the people who are at the dinner. They're

1295
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Speaker 3: not at the dinner, so.

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Speaker 13: We've got no Pink we've got no meager.

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Speaker 3: We've got I can't remember, We've got Sameon, Nicola Erica,

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Speaker 3: Mark Mitchell, Nicola Grigg is there, what's his face? Who

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Speaker 3: does the mental health? Matt Doocey. And then there was

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Speaker 3: like a Judith Collins is there and Chris Luxon. I

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Speaker 3: think that's all.

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Speaker 13: I feel like Judath Collins would be would.

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Speaker 3: Be, she'd be a hope. But she's on the way.

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Speaker 13: There's all the more reason. I mean, again, it's depends

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Speaker 13: if you're going for influence or are you going for banter.

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Speaker 13: You know, if you're going for and I'm going for

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Speaker 13: banter rather than influence. But I mean that all seriousness, though,

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 13: I mean, let's be honest, it seems a bit ugly

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01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 13: from the outside. I mean, I personally think our campaign

1310
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Speaker 13: fundraising and lobbying laws could do with more than a

1311
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 13: bit of a tidy up. But it has to be

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Speaker 13: said that a lot of parties do this. I do

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Speaker 13: remember the last labor government having maybe not ten thousand

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Speaker 13: dollars a pop, maybe not quite that much, or eight

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Speaker 13: thousand dollars a pop. They had slightly cheap of it.

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Speaker 13: I'm pretty sure they had it.

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Speaker 3: Talking about Jack, she was she being just Sinda was

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Speaker 3: going for eighteen hundred dollars a person, right, that's per ticket,

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Speaker 3: whereas Chris Luxen is selling his table for about ten thousand.

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Speaker 3: Now that's divided by six, so he's he's coming in

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Speaker 3: under seventeen hundred dollars. So Cindy's more excited for.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, he's got a discount deflation at work.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. She'll be worried about that if I

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Speaker 3: was him, Thomas. Now, Thomas, what do you make of

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Speaker 3: the backdown by New Zealand? First on the fishing law?

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Speaker 24: Well, controversially, I think is actually a discussion to be

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Speaker 24: had about whether the rules were a good idea. The

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Speaker 24: evidence on minimum minimum sizes for fish catching is actually

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Speaker 24: kind of complicated. Larger fish are more likely to produce

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Speaker 24: more offspring on a per capita basis, so there is

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Speaker 24: a reason to kind of question is this the best

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Speaker 24: system we currently have? But politically toxic, it was crazy,

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Speaker 24: it was dead on arrival. The new story starts rolling

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01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 24: and so I thought, you know what, it shows the

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01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 24: talent of Winston Peters immediately realize backtrack cut it lows,

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Speaker 24: you know, get rid of the dead weight. So smart

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Speaker 24: politics I think we shut down a really interesting policy debate.

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Speaker 3: So everybody's claiming credit for the decision here, Jack so

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Speaker 3: Shane says he and Winston had dinner last night and

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Speaker 3: made the decision. But then Luckson says he called Shane

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Speaker 3: into the office and made the decision. You want to addud.

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Speaker 13: Decay, So they didn't have dinner with Luxeon. It wasn't

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Speaker 13: an eight thousand dollars conversation. No, No, I mean yeah,

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Speaker 13: I'm mean, what what is the thing? Success has many

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01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 13: parents and orphans. I'm are orphans here. I mean I

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01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 13: agree with Thomas. I mean, it's obviously they have seen

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 13: that this is a politically toxic issue. They don't want

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Speaker 13: to go into November with people constantly, you know, turning

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Speaker 13: up in Parliament holding gold fish and saying these are

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Speaker 13: the things that New Zealand first want to be supporting us,

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01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 13: you know, that tiny little, tiny little fashion saying that

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Speaker 13: this is what New Zealand's first support. So I'm not

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 13: surprised to see it. Whether or not it would have

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01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 13: reflected on Christopher luxemand I know, but I'm not surprised

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Speaker 13: to see them both claim it.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: You're probably right, guys, thank you so much appreciated, Jack

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 3: Tame and Thomas scrims ow huddle this evesoning hither. I

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Speaker 3: have to agree with Jack for once Trump got another

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Speaker 3: two thousand airborne troops headed to the golf along with

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Speaker 3: five thousand marines on the way. War is not ending

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Speaker 3: Friday like a lot of people think, Liam, thank you

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 3: or or is he sending them there because he has to.

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01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: He has to hold something, declare peace and then hold

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Speaker 3: something whatever. That something is light away from six.

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Speaker 4: OH.

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Speaker 3: I see the old fuel crisis is heading the post

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Speaker 3: in Australia. Now, this is not like they have what

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Speaker 3: is called a fuel levy. Normal punters don't pay a

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Speaker 3: fuel levy if if you're in Australia doing the posting,

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Speaker 3: and even most businesses don't pay. It's just some business

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Speaker 3: customers who pay this fuel levy. It's about thirty thousand

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01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 3: to them. From April twenty third to a month away,

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Speaker 3: the fuel levy will rise from four point eight percent

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01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 3: to get this twelve percent and then the Star Trek

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: Express and Premium fuel charge fuel surcharge will rise from

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Speaker 3: fifteen and a half percent to twenty two point seven percent,

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Speaker 3: So they're going to notice that, I would say five

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Speaker 3: away from six. Now, Kerry prendercast have to talk about it.

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01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 3: I've just completely ballsed up her name, Kerr Prendergast. Now

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you I was on leave on Friday,

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: but I had a giggle at this. I thought, well,

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 3: that's a bit funny, Like I don't condone it, but geez,

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Speaker 3: Carri's like, what would she be She'd be seventy, I reckon,

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Speaker 3: she's seventy, and she's a grand and she's the nicest woman.

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01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 3: She's just she would probably not like me saying she's nice,

1389
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 3: because she's actually got. She's a woman of steel. But

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01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 3: she's a well put together woman, do you know what

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean? Like you are. She is not the kind

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01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 3: of woman who would embarrass herself. So I found it

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: quite funny to hear that Carrie had been on this

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 3: former mayor of Wellington if you don't know who I'm

1395
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 3: talking about, also a former midwife, so you know, good

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01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: good woman. Anyway, So Carrie was on Nick's show on

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01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 3: Friday in the morning in Wellington and she admitted that

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01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: she'd lost her driver's license for three months because she'd

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01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 3: been speeding. Because she's got it. She's got a lead leg,

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01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 3: hasn't she She's got a Tesla, and so the Tesla

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01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: and you know this, with an electric vehicle, it kind

1402
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 3: of you lose your ability to judge speed because it

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01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: doesn't have it doesn't feel the same as a nice vehicle.

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01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 3: She gon't bit fast lots of times, so before she

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 3: knew it, she'd got a hundred demerit fluids. Now that's

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01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 3: what I expect from a gang member or a twenty

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01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 3: one year old boy racer, not a former mayor of

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01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,919
Speaker 3: Wellington who is a very nice woman and and moves

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01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: around in polite society. Anyway, The Ambulance Association is not

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01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 3: impressed with us at all. They are very angry. The head,

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01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 3: Mark Quinn, has told The Herald he wants Kerry to

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 3: resign as the chair of Wellington Free Ambulance. He says

1413
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 3: it's not a good look. She has to resign from

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01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 3: her position. The organization's code of conduct requires staff to

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01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 3: follow the law and disclose pending all recent driving offenses.

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01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 3: Well now she's disclosed it, so she's done that. But

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01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 3: also settle down. Can I say this to the Ambulance Association,

1418
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 3: go and find something else to do with your time,

1419
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 3: because there's plenty of stuff for you to be doing

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01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 3: with your time right now. We're not really through our

1421
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 3: little health crisis, are we. People are dying all the

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01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 3: time waiting for ambulances, So sort that out. Stop worrying

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01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 3: about Kerrie Wellington free ambulance. Frankly, I think is lucky

1424
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 3: to have her because she's she's got that thing that

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01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 3: a lot of working mothers have, because they don't really

1426
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 3: brook crap like you turn up to them like nope,

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: you know, she's got this. She's like, she's a sterely

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 3: lady but also quite smart. All obviously they generally go

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Speaker 3: together anyway. Also, it's speeding, like, it's not a crime

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01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 3: of violence, is it's not a crime of fraud of deception.

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: It's just speeding. In fact, I would suggest to Mark

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01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 3: Quinn that if he's short of an ambulance driver, I

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01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 3: know someone who can get you from A to Z

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Speaker 3: real fast. Garry Brendergast, let's talk about fuel next.

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Speaker 2: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The business hour with head the duplicy al and MAS

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Speaker 1: Insurance and Investments.

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Speaker 2: Your future is in good hands u storg zb.

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01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: Even in coming up in the next hour, we have

1440
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: Jeremy Harton of Milford Asset Management on how the NZX

1441
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 3: is tracking at the moment gnative Strainey and then we

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01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 3: have k Oliver out of the UK. I'm going to

1443
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: get you across right now by the way seven pass six,

1444
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get across. The numbers for the day Enzedex

1445
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 3: fifty up is up one point seventy nine percent today.

1446
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: The top performers of the Waistcoat group and pay Source

1447
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 3: ASX fifty up one point four to four percent so far. Today,

1448
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 3: a barrel of Brent crude now costs ninety nine US dollars,

1449
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 3: that's down five percent, and one New Zealand dollar is

1450
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 3: worth fifty eight US cents, eighty three Australian cents, fifty

1451
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 3: euros and forty three UK pens and of course ninety

1452
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 3: two yen as well. Now let's go to what is

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01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 3: going on with the fuel situation. We have just two

1454
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 3: ships with fuel on board due to arrive in the

1455
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: next fortnight. Our stocks are starting to diminish by the

1456
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 3: looks of things. We're about We're down about ten percent

1457
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 3: in the last two weeks. The government's latest update shows

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01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 3: that on average we have forty eight point nine, let's say,

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,879
Speaker 3: forty nine days cover of petrol Starboard Maritime intelligence analyst

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Speaker 3: Mark Douglas has a look at what's going on on

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Speaker 3: the water and he's with us now, Hi, Mark, Hey,

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Speaker 3: how optimistic are you about what we've got?

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01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 25: It appears are more optimistic than the government because we've

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01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 25: been looking at the numbers of tankers coming to New

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01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 25: Zealand and I can count eight on the way, so

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01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 25: that's more than what the government's counting. Although the difference

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 25: is probably the government's only county guaranteed cargoes. We're the

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01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 25: ones that are. The other six are saying that they're

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01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 25: coming to New Zealand. But with the way the global

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 25: fuel market is, there's a chance that somebody else could

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Speaker 25: snap it up.

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Speaker 3: How do we know which ones are guaranteed in which aren't.

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Speaker 25: So the ones that the government are saying are guaranteed,

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 25: I am taking it as they are guaranteed. The other

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01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 25: six because that they are sold on the water and

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 25: they can be sold again on the water. We're looking

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01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 25: at them and keeping a very close eye to see

1478
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 25: if there's any hint that they're changing direction.

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01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so is it the case that they've been sold

1480
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 3: to us, but it is a possible. It's possible that

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01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 3: they may be resold at a higher price to somebody

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: else before they get to us.

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01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 25: I think they've been directed to come to us, but

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 25: there's the possibility that they could get to sold to

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Speaker 25: someone else on the way.

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,679
Speaker 3: Has that happened so far since this around war has happened,

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: has started not to New Zealand.

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01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:48,839
Speaker 25: I've seen crude carriers changed directions, so we've seen vessels

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01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 25: that were due to go to ports in Southeast Asia

1490
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 25: redirected to refineries in India. But for product tankers coming

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01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 25: to New Zealand, No, we certainly haven't seen that.

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01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 3: Have we seen a slowdown in the frequency of tankers

1493
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Speaker 3: arriving here?

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 25: So last the week that we're currently in, we've only

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01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 25: seen one tanker arrive. That was we saw that coming

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 25: a couple of weeks ago. We had a glut of

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01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 25: tankers come that first week, we had a slow down

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 25: in the week we're in now, and then next week

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 25: we're seeing four, and then the week after we're seeing

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Speaker 25: another four. So certainly this week has been slower, but

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 25: the next two weeks are looking good.

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 3: Okay, So no suggestion that there is any disruption to

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01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 3: what we would ordinarily expect to arrive.

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01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 25: No, we're keeping a very close eye to see what

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Speaker 25: the tankers that are coming to New Zealand are doing.

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Speaker 25: But from what I can see, there is we had

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Speaker 25: a quick look. We think of it. There's about sixteen

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Speaker 25: days of fuel supply on the water coming to New Zealand,

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Speaker 25: which is good for two weeks. Sixteen days of fuel supply,

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Speaker 25: so that will keep us going.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, explain this to me because I get texts

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Speaker 3: like this. This is from Ricky Hither I drive a

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01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: fuel tanker. We've been under allocation for two weeks. I

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 3: don't know where you're getting your info from. Several fuel

1515
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 3: terminals in the North Island are empty.

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Speaker 25: Okay. We keep a track of the things that are

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Speaker 25: on the water. I don't know what's happening on the

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Speaker 25: land ones, but certainly.

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Speaker 3: Could that be certainly could that might be explained simply

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Speaker 3: by us perhaps buying because we're panicking at a higher

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 3: level that our consumption has gone up because we're stockpiling ourselves.

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01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 3: Is that possibly the excla.

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Speaker 25: We heard that happen in West Australia very early on

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01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 25: in the piece that everyone has gone to fill up

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Speaker 25: their car, and certainly people who've got fuel like fuel

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Speaker 25: bowsers at their workplace would have gone out and bought

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01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 25: up fuel as quickly as they could to secure themselves

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Speaker 25: against the supply. So certainly it could be a case

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Speaker 25: of the fuels in New Zealand. It's just not where

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Speaker 25: it normally is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, now in is it oil? Watch the website?

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Speaker 3: Do you rate it?

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Speaker 25: It is amazing what AI can do today in terms

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01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 25: of bringing together a whole bunch of information and putting

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Speaker 25: it on a very nice dashboard. I think we all

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01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 25: need to be very careful about where the information is

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,560
Speaker 25: coming from and what it's telling us. I think the

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Speaker 25: NBA and the government are doing a great job of

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01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 25: telling us as much as they can be certain of,

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 25: and we can see a lot. We just have to

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 25: be very careful when we see dashboards and other things

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01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 25: like that appearing to dive very deep into it and

1543
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 25: to check what we're seeing.

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Speaker 3: Mark, is that your very diplomatic and polite way of

1545
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 3: saying that this is just a rubbish website. Don't give

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Speaker 3: it any attention.

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Speaker 25: I haven't dug it enough to call it rubbish, but

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Speaker 25: I would certainly advise that people don't rush out and

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Speaker 25: buy fuel based on what's on that website.

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Speaker 3: Mark, thanks very much, appreciate your time as always, Mark Douglas,

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Speaker 3: Starboard Maritime Intelligence. Twelve past six Ever Allen Paul Conway,

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Speaker 3: Reserve Bank Chief Economist has given a speech in which

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Speaker 3: he said, really, what is obvious to us Allan is

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Speaker 3: kind of what I alluded to it just before the

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Speaker 3: half past news. Things are expensive in this country. New

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Speaker 3: Zealand is on average a very expensive country, and things

1557
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 3: have got more expensive since the pandemic, largely thanks to inflation.

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Speaker 3: But there was something in what he said which I

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Speaker 3: thought was quite interesting. He's talking about real per capita

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Speaker 3: income in New Zealand. He says it's below the OECD average,

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Speaker 3: and that it had been about eighty percent of the

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Speaker 3: OECD average until the mid noughties, and then it started

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Speaker 3: increasing and by twenty twenty we got to about ninety

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Speaker 3: five percent, actually slightly more than ninety five percent of

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Speaker 3: the OECD average only six years ago. Now that will

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Speaker 3: most likely be the China FDA because that's the thing

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Speaker 3: that really drove our economic growth from the point that

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Speaker 3: it was signed in the late naughties. Then he said,

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Speaker 3: since twenty twenty, real income in New Zealand has fallen

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Speaker 3: back to around ninety percent of the OECD average. Now,

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but going from eighty percent

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Speaker 3: is pathetic. But ninety five percent I thought was actually pretty.

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Speaker 3: It was not bad, I thought. And then falling back

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Speaker 3: to ninety percent not great. I mean I'd like to

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Speaker 3: be above the OECD average, obviously, wouldn't you. But we're

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Speaker 3: not that far off. So I took a little bit

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Speaker 3: of heart from that. I thought, the climb up to

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Speaker 3: get around where everybody else is it would not be

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Speaker 3: INSIDEX has had a bit of a tough month, obviously,

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01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 3: so have other markets around the globe. How has it

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Speaker 3: been holding up.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, it has been extremely choppy and volatile month and

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01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 26: financial markets and everyone's sort of trying to guess the

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01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 26: next news flow coming out around the world. But yeah,

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Speaker 26: O inzid X, it's down six percent so far in March.

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Speaker 26: That I would add today it had a really good

1614
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 26: bounce back on some of that leaked ceasefire report, so

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01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:40,680
Speaker 26: it has been actually done a lot more than that

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01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 26: six percent. But you have been slightly more insulated than

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01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 26: our peer markets and in the Australian market down over

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01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 26: seven percent, European and Asian markets down between eight and ten,

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 26: so they've been hit relatively harder. And the US markets,

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01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 26: of course have been a little bit more insulated, down

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01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 26: only three or four percent. It does make sense, you know,

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Speaker 26: the US, they've got the energy independence, so they are

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Speaker 26: a little bit more insulated. And I suppose we don't

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Speaker 26: have any really direct message direct exposure to the Middle East.

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01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 26: But you know, there are a few second order effects

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01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 26: under come through that are worth touching on for New Zealand.

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01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, those second order effects, they I mean, they have

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01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 3: the potential to halt our fragile economic recovery, don't they.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, that's right, and it hasn't come at a great

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 26: time for our economic recovery. I mean we've obviously been

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01:16:26,360 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 26: trying to get off the canvas after a tough few years,

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 26: and you know there has been a bit of a

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Speaker 26: downturn and sentiment. I mean obviously driven by this oil

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01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 26: price spike. It is another tax or another cost and

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 26: post on New Zealand consumers and businesses. And obviously the

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 26: next effect is that short term inflation and are we

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01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 26: going to get increased prices? Will it lower growth and

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,920
Speaker 26: could it lower earnings for companies? So potentially a bit

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01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 26: of a nasty stakeflation or environment that markets or financial

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01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 26: markets really don't like, and in fact no one really

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01:16:58,560 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 26: likes it all.

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Speaker 3: How are you seeing the situation through the different sectors

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01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:03,400
Speaker 3: on the inxet ex this month?

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Speaker 26: Yeah, firstly, you know, the hardest hit sectors being tourism

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 26: and travel adjacent businesses, So companies like in New Zealand,

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 26: Tourism Holdings and Circo. I mean, they're all understandable given

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01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 26: just some of the travel disruption we're seeing around the globe,

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,680
Speaker 26: and all of those shares were off a considerable over

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 26: twenty percent this month. And then companies that use a

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 26: lot of fuel as well, So Courier Business Freightways and

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,639
Speaker 26: their main freight two they're both down over double digits.

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 26: So yes, those companies are really at the pointy end

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01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 26: of the fuel crisis at the moment.

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Speaker 3: And look, do you think that the highest short term

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01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 3: interest rates from the oil inflation are affecting us as well?

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 26: Yeah, this is some of the second order effects that

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01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 26: potentially can come through with those higher short term rates

1658
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,720
Speaker 26: and oil inflation. I mean, we're seeing some of the

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Speaker 26: cyclical stocks in our economy, which we're anticipating a bit

1660
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 26: of a rebound this year, getting hit building materials companies

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01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 26: like Vulcan Steel and Fletcher Building. Investors are thinking, you know,

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01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 26: maybe the construction market might slow down a little bit.

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01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 26: Retirement sectors such as Ryman in Somerset, I'm in higher

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 26: interest rates and they're good good for the housing market.

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01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 26: And then Catman dou I mean they announced today that

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Speaker 26: they're going to perform a capital raise this week, So

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01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 26: you know, I would expect a bit more weakness also

1668
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 26: in the retail sector, particularly if consumers are just spending

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01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 26: a lot less money.

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Speaker 3: Where have been the places to hide? Do you reckon

1671
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 3: in the new Zealand market.

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Speaker 26: Yeah, channel infrastructure to know on surprise, given the given

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Speaker 26: the media attention around them, they're our fuel input terminal.

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 26: The financial markets are giving them a bit of a benefit.

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01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 26: I mean they're thinking that potentially a bit more resilience

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01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 26: and fuel storage will be coming in at that site

1677
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 26: post of this. And then Fonterra and Turner's Automotive, I

1678
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 26: mean they both upgraded their earnings forecast this week, so

1679
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 26: the market's put them in the green for the month.

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01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 26: So you know, the market is still rewarding those companies

1681
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 26: that are putting some good earnings results through.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good Stuffjeremy, always good to talk to you. Jeremy Hutton,

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Speaker 3: Milford Asset Management, speaking of petrol just before Gisbon is

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Speaker 3: complaining their couple of gas stations have run out of

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Speaker 3: ninety one this afternoon. So the Z station on Gladstone

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Speaker 3: Road that's run out in the pack and Save also

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Speaker 3: out of the ninety one twenty one past.

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Speaker 3: Whether there's no diesel in Cromwell from ZED Celtics or

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Speaker 3: NPD Jackie, thank you now yesterday. Help no. Let me

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Speaker 3: restart that it is not every day that I have

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Speaker 3: a good news story for you that involves a council,

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Speaker 3: and especially a council with the manafena with seats. But

1697
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Speaker 3: I've got a good news story for you on this.

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Speaker 3: In the Cargo City Council's got two manafena with seats, right,

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Speaker 3: one is for the Ananga and the other one is

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Speaker 3: for the y Hawpye Runanga. So they each get one.

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Speaker 3: Why Hawpie's decided cool going to go along with it.

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Speaker 3: They got the that Mike Bain is going to be

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Speaker 3: the representative, gone ahead with it. The other lot oh

1704
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Speaker 3: have gone. Do you know what, we don't want our

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Speaker 3: seat anymore. We want you to shut it down. They've

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01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 3: decided that there are better ways for them to communicate

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01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 3: and collaborate with the council as required, and so they've

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01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: said they're going to relinquish their right to have a

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Speaker 3: man of fena with seat. This carries the savings to

1710
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 3: the council because the council has decided just recently about

1711
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 3: like let's say six months ago, round about that about

1712
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 3: six months ago they decided to pay their man offena

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01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 3: were representatives forty nine thousand dollars. So that's forty nine

1714
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 3: thousand dollars they're saving for the rate payers. But hang

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01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 3: on a tick, hang on a tick?

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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 4: Is it?

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Speaker 3: The council is so disappointed that the local man Offenawa

1719
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: don't want to have their seat that they are going

1720
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 3: to possibly accept a staff recommendation that rather than disestablishing

1721
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,480
Speaker 3: the council seat, they're going to put it in abeyance

1722
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 3: so that in future it can be filled. Such as

1723
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 3: the ideology at councils now, I mean, I just think

1724
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 3: about how crazy this is they've made. They've literally created

1725
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: two seats to give to these two different runanga so

1726
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 3: that they can have collaboration and a voice at council.

1727
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 3: One of them's gone, we'd actually don't need it, We've

1728
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 3: got better ways of doing this, and they've gone, oh,

1729
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 3: so disappointed that we're actually not going to shut this down.

1730
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:15,800
Speaker 3: We're hoping you're going to change your mind and so

1731
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: that we can keep on spending for forty nine thousand

1732
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: dollars annually on you. How mental is that if people

1733
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: don't even want it? But Council wants to force it

1734
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: down their throat. Anyway, Well done you Awarua love it

1735
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:27,360
Speaker 3: six twenty six.

1736
01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:30,879
Speaker 2: There's no business like show business.

1737
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 3: Major AI generated video Sora, which is chat GPT's AI

1738
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 3: video app, has just been shut down by open Ai. Now,

1739
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 3: if you'd wondering what I'm talking about, think about you

1740
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 3: to see all those creepy little videos that you get

1741
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 3: on on online of a cat like cooking dinner for

1742
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,919
Speaker 3: its kitten, and it obviously never happened. That was probably

1743
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 3: created by SRA. But AI's just decided to shut the

1744
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 3: thing down. They say it cost too much, copyright issues

1745
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 3: are a nightmare, and they put it in the two

1746
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: heart basket. But what makes us particularly interesting it's only

1747
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 3: a few months ago that they signed this is open

1748
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 3: Ai signed a deal with Disney worth a billion dollars

1749
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: that Disney agreed they would allow the license of its

1750
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 3: of its stuff to be used by SAURA. So basically

1751
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 3: what they wanted to do was that you could use

1752
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 3: Sora to generate any of the things that you wanted

1753
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 3: to do involving Disney characters and Disney ip so Mickey

1754
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 3: Mouse hanging out with iron Man, Alsa dating, buzz Light,

1755
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 3: you could do all of that stuff. This is, as

1756
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 3: I say, a major blow for AI generated video and

1757
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: a bit of a setback for Disney because it was

1758
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 3: banking on this tech to supercharge its streaming service. The

1759
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,400
Speaker 3: question is now, what's gonna happen. Is Disney gonna pivot,

1760
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna find some other way to bring AI to

1761
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 3: Disney Plus or is AI content replacing the entire movie

1762
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 3: business just one of those ideas that is as stupid

1763
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: in practice as it sounds on paper interesting development, wouldn't

1764
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,919
Speaker 3: you say? Genative? Traine is with us next.

1765
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 21: Call?

1766
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: Ever, it's to do with money. It matters to you.

1767
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:13,480
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and Mas Insurance

1768
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: and investments. Your futures in good hands, used talks bet me.

1769
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,439
Speaker 3: Okay, Oliver's with us in ten minutes out of the

1770
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: UK and do you remember old tape face from Dunedin?

1771
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 3: Got an update on him for you. This is to

1772
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 3: be expected, not not altogether welcome, but to be expected.

1773
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,599
Speaker 3: Westpac has slashed what they're expecting forecast growth wise from

1774
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,839
Speaker 3: the economy for twenty twenty six. So they were previously

1775
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,800
Speaker 3: picking that we would grow at two point eight percent.

1776
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 3: Now forecasting one point nine percent over twenty six. Obviously

1777
01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 3: because of the Iran war, are also penciled in a

1778
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: zero point four percent fall and quarterly GDP in the

1779
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 3: June quarter twenty four away from seven. There is a

1780
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: plan to potentially boost our fuel storage capacity. The Herald's

1781
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 3: Wellington Business editor Genative Cheraney has been looking into this

1782
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 3: and is with us Hygiena.

1783
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 27: Hi Heather.

1784
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,680
Speaker 3: So this is a plan that seems to have been

1785
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,280
Speaker 3: pitched by Channel Infrastructure that the ones who run the

1786
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 3: Marsden Point oil refinery now they want to potentially increase

1787
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,759
Speaker 3: their their capacity for storage.

1788
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 28: Yeah, yeah, that's right.

1789
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 27: Currently they have storage for about three hundred million liters

1790
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 27: of fuel, but they also have these tanks that are

1791
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 27: sitting there empty that could potentially hold another three hundred

1792
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 27: and fifty million liters of fuel, so pretty much it

1793
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 27: could potentially double its storage capacity. The issue is, and

1794
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 27: this is what Channel has been talking to the government about,

1795
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 27: is that those empty tanks need to be refurbished and

1796
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:49,839
Speaker 27: that would be a costly and a time consuming process.

1797
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,759
Speaker 27: But Channel has started talking to the government to update

1798
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 27: them on well actually, if you know, if the situation arises,

1799
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 27: we could to you know, get those tanks in a

1800
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 27: state so that they could could hold more fuel from

1801
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 27: what I can gather as it stands with the regulations

1802
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 27: and things in place at the moment, that process could

1803
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 27: take about a year to eighteen months. So that's not

1804
01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,560
Speaker 27: going to solve the problem here and now, but it

1805
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 27: seems like a worthy discussion to have, you know, should

1806
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 27: we create more capacity to hold more fuel because at

1807
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 27: the moment, the way things run, it's pretty tight.

1808
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 3: Ye Does it sound like they want government funding?

1809
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 27: So Channel hasn't directly asked for government funding, but it has,

1810
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 27: I guess in updating the government on where it's at

1811
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 27: and what it would cost to get these empty tanks refurbished.

1812
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 27: You know, I'm sure it would welcome some government funding.

1813
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 27: Shane jones A took term today, you know, and he's

1814
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 27: across this. He said, he geny when we'll be genuinely

1815
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 27: believed we needed more storage in New Zealand. But you know,

1816
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 27: he needs to work with finance mister Nicola Willis on that.

1817
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 27: And I talked to Nicola Willis and she was pretty

1818
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 27: hesitant to suggest the government was prepared to fork out

1819
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 27: to help refurbish these tanks. You know, she said, well,

1820
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 27: Channel is a commercial company, and you'd expect fuel importers

1821
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 27: like z Energy and etc. To pay for the storage.

1822
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 27: That's currently how it works. But you know, I feel

1823
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 27: like this is a space to watch. And the other

1824
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 27: thing they're looking at is the regulations because as it

1825
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 27: stands at the moment, you need like a bunt, like

1826
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 27: from what I can understand, it's like a big wall

1827
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 27: or something around the tanks to make sure the fuel

1828
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 27: doesn't leak. But building that is the problem. So you know,

1829
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,080
Speaker 27: could they loosen up the rigs to get these tanks

1830
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 27: refurbished more quickly.

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01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 3: It's not like this is our only option, right because

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 3: when Methodex eventually shuts down, those tanks become available, don't they.

1833
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 27: Yeah, yeah, Now that's another thing that Shane Jones said

1834
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 27: he took to the Port Tuttanuki CEO about there could

1835
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 27: be some storage capacity there. So you know, officials are

1836
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 27: looking at this as well. From MB they're advising ministers.

1837
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 27: It seems like there are a lot of public servants

1838
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 27: running around talking to industry trying to you know, get

1839
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 27: their heads around the levers that can be pulled. So

1840
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,759
Speaker 27: this might be something that needs to be fixed. Looking

1841
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 27: further down the track. It's hard to see, you know,

1842
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 27: it's hard to see these these tanks getting refurbished quickly.

1843
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 27: But you know, who knows how long this whole thing

1844
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:35,719
Speaker 27: is going to drag.

1845
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 3: On for To know, thank you was always really appreciate it.

1846
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Joe.

1847
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week. Janetib Cherney, The Herald's

1848
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 3: Wellington Business editor. Look, can I just say I hope

1849
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,880
Speaker 3: the government doesn't put money into this. I cannot tell

1850
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 3: you how irritated I get, as every taxpayer should, by

1851
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 3: corporate welfare, by the government having to bail out these

1852
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 3: private enterprises that frankly are able to pay for this stuff.

1853
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 3: And so it's just come on a bad day. It's

1854
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: come on a bad day because just this morning I

1855
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 3: was reading about Rio Tinto, our mates from down South

1856
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 3: with the aluminium smelter. How many times did Rio Tinto

1857
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 3: come to us that we're going to shout down, Oh

1858
01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 3: we need a government bailout, Oh we need the government money.

1859
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: Guess what stunt they've just pulled in Australia. That's right,

1860
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 3: two billion Australian dollars in taxpayer subsidies to secure the

1861
01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 3: long term future of its aluminium smelter in North Queensland.

1862
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 3: When are we going to learn twenty away from.

1863
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: Seven Heather Duel.

1864
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 3: They've got an update for you on old tape face

1865
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 3: the duneedan city councilor who taped his face for some protests.

1866
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 3: I can't even remember what the protest was. And when

1867
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 3: people can't remember what the protest was, it's a bit

1868
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 3: of a problem. Anyway. His name is Benedict Ong. He's

1869
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 3: a new counselor. He hasn't been there all that long,

1870
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 3: so what has he been there? Six months something like that.

1871
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 3: Were the council elections only six months ago? Weren't they?

1872
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 3: I think they were anyway, So they had council held

1873
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 3: a meeting today to discuss his recent alleged bad behavior

1874
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 3: and a report that the commission from a lawyer. They've

1875
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 3: got a lawyer in Wellington, Steph Diaiberg, to look into

1876
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 3: his behavior and write a report. Was late to the

1877
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 3: meeting and then he was asked everybody a little bit

1878
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 3: of a chat, and then they asked Bendedett, would you

1879
01:29:05,439 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 3: like to say something about the report? And he said replied,

1880
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 3: I certainly do, and then he read a passage from

1881
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,640
Speaker 3: the book The Trial by Kavka, which is about a

1882
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 3: man who's arrested and prosecuted for a crime, but he

1883
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 3: doesn't know what the crime is himself.

1884
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 8: Logic is of.

1885
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:24,840
Speaker 13: Course unshakable, but it cannot pour out against.

1886
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 24: A man who wants to live.

1887
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Where was the judge?

1888
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 24: He had never seen?

1889
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 2: Where was the high thought? He had never reached.

1890
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:39,000
Speaker 3: What you can't see by just listening to it is

1891
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 3: the dramatic, the flourish, the dramatic hands. He's got drunk,

1892
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 3: he's got theater hands. Like that hand is doing a

1893
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 3: lot of the work for him, just flourishing away in

1894
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 3: the air. Anyway, after his book reading, the mayor said

1895
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: you should resign.

1896
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 2: Now.

1897
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 3: He didn't want to resign. He was stripped of his

1898
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: extra rolls and portfolio, but he did not believe that

1899
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,879
Speaker 3: he should apologize. He thinks he's owed an apology.

1900
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 29: Others, why would I even consider that, because very simply

1901
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 29: I have been elected. I am a contractor for the

1902
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,519
Speaker 29: next two and a half years to serve at the

1903
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 29: pleasure of our community. I have, from the very moment

1904
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:17,120
Speaker 29: of election said I want to work together as one big,

1905
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 29: happy family. Now it seems like there's a great deal

1906
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 29: of sibling rivalry in this dysfunctional family that I'm a

1907
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,200
Speaker 29: part of.

1908
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 2: What can I say?

1909
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 3: I just wonder how many people in Dunedin heard him

1910
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 3: say at the pleasure of the Dunedin community and thought

1911
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 3: of boy, I'm getting a lot of pleasure from this

1912
01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:35,560
Speaker 3: seventeen away from seven.

1913
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

1914
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: It's hither duple cllen on the business hour with mass

1915
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: insurance and investments.

1916
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 2: Your futures in good hands, used talk z'd be.

1917
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 3: Here the how's this for an inflationary effect? CMA Shipping

1918
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 3: has just issued an emergency conflict surcharge on containers for

1919
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 3: movements from and through the Red Sea area, so all

1920
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 3: European movements through there will also be affected. It's two

1921
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 3: dollars per twenty foot and three thousand dollars per forty foot.

1922
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 3: And this has included our container which left Egypt on

1923
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 3: January the first and was misshipped or it was transhipped

1924
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 3: as normal to Malaysia well before the war started in

1925
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 3: that ship when the war hat starter was in Japan.

1926
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 3: Not affected at all, but CMA's Shipping think it's okay

1927
01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:20,360
Speaker 3: to retrospectively add this kind of terrif on world shipping prices.

1928
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 3: That's from Dave Geez. I'd feel I'd be honest, I'd

1929
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 3: be I'd be a little bit grumpy, I think on

1930
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 3: the scale of like on the scale, i'd be grumpied

1931
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Speaker 3: to ropeable somewhere on somewhere around there. Fourteen away from

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Speaker 3: seven k Oliver UK correspondents with us. Hell Okay, hello, hell,

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Speaker 3: So what's going on with petrol with you guys? Well,

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Speaker 3: you've just.

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Speaker 28: Said about people putting prices up for the containers and

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Speaker 28: basically we are seeing a ten percent petrol increase unloaded,

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Speaker 28: twenty percent diesel. I did a quick survey one pounds

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Speaker 28: forty nine elite unloaded, one eighty nine for diesel. It

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Speaker 28: does seem that these prices are going through the roof.

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Speaker 28: They've had meetings in Parliament, big discussions, and they're keen

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Speaker 28: to stop profiteering at the petrol pumps.

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Speaker 18: Now.

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Speaker 28: This means they're going to give new powers to the

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Speaker 28: Compliance and Marketing Agency and they also want new anti

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Speaker 28: profiteering legislation. The feeling here is that the stocks were

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Speaker 28: already here, but these prices are being pumped up. There

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Speaker 28: are going to be meetings with banks and supermarkets. I

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Speaker 28: will say that a quick survey I've done, the supermarket

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Speaker 28: pricing is much cheaper than if you go to the

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Speaker 28: major suppliers. But however, people are definitely beginning to feel

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Speaker 28: the pinch. There aren't any queues at the petrol pumps

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Speaker 28: that I've been able to see, and I did a

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Speaker 28: little quick survey yesterday, but there's certainly people filling up

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Speaker 28: and not letting their fuel run out. So that's the

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Speaker 28: advice here. They're also talking about slowing down, adjusting the

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Speaker 28: speed limits from fifty to forty miles an hour on

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Speaker 28: some roads, working from home and cycling again, lots going

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Speaker 28: on here, Heather, with these petrol prices, but they're keen

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Speaker 28: to stop price gouging.

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Speaker 3: So is your government looking at doing something similar to

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Speaker 3: what ours has done and rolling out some support for

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Speaker 3: people who are struggling to pay the bills?

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Speaker 28: Well, big meeting is again. Chancellor Rachel Reeves has stood

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Speaker 28: up and said that most the people who are most

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Speaker 28: in need will be helped if these energy prices continue

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Speaker 28: to spiral, which basically means that middle earners high earners

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Speaker 28: won't be getting the help. She stressed that she's keen

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Speaker 28: not to repeat here what happened in twenty twenty two

1969
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Speaker 28: when Liz Trust was in government and there was a

1970
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Speaker 28: Russian invasion of of Ukraine and there was basically a

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Speaker 28: guarantee on prices that she said yesterday in the House

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Speaker 28: of Commons. They're still writing out the checks now for

1973
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Speaker 28: something that happened in twenty twenty two, and it actually

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Speaker 28: costs a UK government forty billion pounds to sort this out.

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Speaker 28: So all we know is that with there is an

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Speaker 28: energy price cap here on gas electricity prices until July

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Speaker 28: and then things could change. At the moment we're kind

1978
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Speaker 28: of locked into these fixed tariffs. We've also heard from

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Speaker 28: the Energy Secretary Ed Millerband that he has got possible

1980
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Speaker 28: plans to decouple gas and electricity bills, so in other words,

1981
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Speaker 28: you'll pay separately for your electricity and for your gas.

1982
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Speaker 28: So they're you know, they're they're talking the talk, Heather,

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Speaker 28: Let's see what happens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah too, right now, who's been hickeling and the King

1985
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Speaker 3: and the Queen, Well, it's this group again.

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Speaker 28: They're believed to be Republic, the anti monarchist group, and

1987
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Speaker 28: Charles and Camilla were on walk about at the Eden

1988
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Speaker 28: project in Cornwall to celebrate twenty five years, and again

1989
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 28: Andrew mount Batton Windsor's name came up and why are

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Speaker 28: you still covering for him? Was the shout that went

1991
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Speaker 28: out and in fact it was such a that it

1992
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Speaker 28: was a shell, but there was a lot of noise,

1993
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Speaker 28: Heather and basically I saw it on TV. They had

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Speaker 28: to kind of capture what was being said. But it's

1995
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Speaker 28: not going away for them, and the world's just ignore

1996
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Speaker 28: these questions. But clearly William Charles, Kate Camilla they're going

1997
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Speaker 28: to have to put up with this for quite some time.

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Speaker 28: The commentators last night were saying it's never going to

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Speaker 28: go away. His kind of the hidden uncle in the

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Speaker 28: cupboard that's pulled out every time they do a role visit.

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Speaker 3: That's embarrassing for them at Thank you very much, Kay

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Speaker 3: appreciated as Kay Oliver, our UK correspondent. Evidently it is

2003
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Speaker 3: not all roses for the ev owners. So what has

2004
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Speaker 3: gone on? So I think, I mean, I've actually worried

2005
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 3: about this. I thought, Okay, cool, you're gonna get rid

2006
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Speaker 3: of the fossil fuels and you can go on the

2007
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Speaker 3: ev IS electricity particularly cheap at the moment, No it's not.

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Speaker 3: So is this all together going to work for you?

2009
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Speaker 3: I had wondered anyway, some EV owners who are with Meridian.

2010
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Speaker 3: Meridian has an EV power Planet. It's a special plan

2011
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Speaker 3: for EV owners, and some of the owners who are

2012
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 3: on that plan are complaining that they've been told that

2013
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Speaker 3: from the first of May their prices are going to

2014
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Speaker 3: go up by more than fifty percent, which is significant.

2015
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Speaker 3: Some of them are saying it's going to add hundreds

2016
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 3: to the monthly power bill. Now Meridian has confirmed that

2017
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 3: these prices are in fact changing. That's it's absolutely the case,

2018
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Speaker 3: and they are doing what every single power company. And

2019
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Speaker 3: I'm not saying this is not fair or not, but

2020
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Speaker 3: every single power company is doing this at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Every power retailer blaming the increases on the lines and

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Speaker 3: distribution networks over the last couple of years. Nine away

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Speaker 3: from seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the heather too for c Allen Drive Full Show

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Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZBI.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm going to tell you something that is possibly

2027
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 3: going to bum you out about easter. Easter, by the way,

2028
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 3: is what like two weeks? What are you talking about

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Speaker 3: two weeks? Isn't it next week? Aren't you counting it

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Speaker 3: from Good Friday? That's next week, isn't it.

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Speaker 7: Oh it's next week, a week and a halfway. I

2032
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 7: was already Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Oh look at that nine days. It's exciting. I'm loving it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to eat that many. I'm fat. I'm fat.

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Speaker 3: I'm fat in my mind. I've got body just morphia.

2036
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 3: I'm fat huge. So I'm gonna give it all to

2037
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Speaker 3: the kids. But I'm pretty excited about it. Anyway, this

2038
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 3: is going to bum you out, Okay, So unfortunately you're

2039
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 3: gonna get less Easter egg for the dollars. Over in Australia,

2040
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Speaker 3: they've got a consumer advocacy group that's done a bit

2041
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Speaker 3: of a price comparison over the ditch, and I imagine

2042
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,360
Speaker 3: if it's working like this over in Australia, it's going

2043
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:20,240
Speaker 3: to work the same over here. So they had a

2044
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 3: look at the lint bunnies. They are costing a third

2045
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Speaker 3: more than last year. I did buy some the other

2046
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 3: day actually for a thing. I thought, jeez, that's a

2047
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 3: bit pricey. The Cadbury Hollow Eggs have almost doubled in

2048
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 3: their cost program since two Easters ago, so they also

2049
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 3: part of this is not just the straight out cost increase,

2050
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: it's the shrink flation. So what is going on? You know,

2051
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 3: you get those hollow egg boxes from Cadbury and it's

2052
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 3: full of well, as I said, full of hollow eggs.

2053
01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 3: They have taken Cabrey, they've taken four eggs out and

2054
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 3: I and then increase the price. Now I think that

2055
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,720
Speaker 3: we're talking about the twenty four box here, so you

2056
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 3: get the twenty four box which is now a twenty box.

2057
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 3: So I think this is what they're looking at. And

2058
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,519
Speaker 3: over in Australia it's gone from twelve to fifty to

2059
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 3: eighteen dollars. That's a lot more for four fewer eggs.

2060
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 3: And then you get the big Cadbury egg they've taken

2061
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,320
Speaker 3: sixty grams out and they've added three dollars to the price.

2062
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:14,080
Speaker 3: So you know, just I don't know what's the life

2063
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:15,920
Speaker 3: lesson in that they're ripping you off, but you still

2064
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 3: want to have Easter, So I don't know what you

2065
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 3: do about it. This is controversial. This came through from Craig,

2066
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 3: he said, Heather, this is me winging about counting grows. Heather.

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01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 3: If I'm paying good money to go see a band

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01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 3: in a concert, the last thing I want to hear

2069
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:35,600
Speaker 3: is some half primed women cattlewauling away. Well yeah, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: if you see me, if you go to a concert

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01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,519
Speaker 3: and you see me turn up, that's what you're going

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01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: to listen to. And if the band, like, if it's

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01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 3: a band that I really like, I am definitely going

2074
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,600
Speaker 3: to have one more beer and then really go for it.

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Speaker 7: So sorry in advance, Oka, can I just say that

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01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 7: if you're rich enough to afford counting Crows for a

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01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 7: private performance, sure that's reasonable.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 7: There's going to be other people at the concert, and

2080
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 7: some of them will be there because they want to

2081
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 7: sing along to the songs that the singer that they've

2082
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 7: paid to season. Like, I just seriously would some people

2083
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 7: just really struggle with leaving the.

2084
01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 3: House made, not made to go to a.

2085
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,800
Speaker 7: No, they are not spoke spoken to someone, spoken to

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01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:12,840
Speaker 7: someone who did several of the peaking Duck lyrics very

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01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:15,599
Speaker 7: out of tune. It's Synthony on said day and regret nothing.

2088
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 7: The best of both worlds by Hannah Montana to play

2089
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 7: us out tonight. The specials up the Hannah Montena twentieth

2090
01:39:23,479 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 7: Anniversary Special. It's up on Disney Plus if you want

2091
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 7: to go check it out. Apparently one of the one

2092
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:29,560
Speaker 7: of the characters who pops up you may not have

2093
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 7: been expecting it for you a long time, so it's

2094
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 7: your Well, I'm not going.

2095
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,640
Speaker 3: To spoil it. And I know who these people are,

2096
01:39:34,720 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 3: and I have no idea what you.

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01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,839
Speaker 7: Tell I'm a little bit too old for Hannah Montana.

2098
01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 7: I just missed out on that one. You're very sad,

2099
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 7: but and I'm probably not going to get any more.

2100
01:39:42,479 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 7: Because Miley Cyrus was asked about on the Red carpet, Oh,

2101
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 7: you know you've done this twentieth anniversary special? Could we

2102
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 7: see a reboot? Could we see the show come back?

2103
01:39:50,320 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 3: And what does she say?

2104
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 13: Girl, I'm already tired.

2105
01:39:53,479 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 7: This has already been a lot. So I think we

2106
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 7: can get an indication there that if it's going to happen,

2107
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,720
Speaker 7: it's not going to happen with her. And if it's

2108
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 7: not gonna having with her, I don't see the point.

2109
01:40:01,160 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 3: You're doing this, because let's be honest. Okay. We had

2110
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 3: a meeting today about the show and producer Sam, who's

2111
01:40:06,520 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 3: the youngest one, was quite upset because he had he'd

2112
01:40:09,400 --> 01:40:11,600
Speaker 3: wanted me to tell you something about Hannah Montana a

2113
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and apparently I didn't deliver it

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Speaker 3: with sufficient conviction.

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Speaker 7: And he also spoke to me today and said that

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01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 7: if it was up to him, he'd just play Hannah

2117
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 7: Montana music on the show all the time. So you're right,

2118
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 7: we're an equitable show here. We let everyone put in

2119
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 7: put it.

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Speaker 3: We go to the meetings, we listen, and then we

2121
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Speaker 3: take it on board, and then we play a Hannah Montana.

2122
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 7: None of us are bigger than the team.

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01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 3: Hell right, here you go.

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Speaker 22: Here's the best of both world Enjoy it, Sam would

2125
01:40:33,920 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 22: Sam will be capitballing along to this later, better something.

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Speaker 3: Know you've got the best in both worlds.

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