1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Scored with tv RED Live within play. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: Resonsively Darcy Watergrave Sports Talk hoasters with us. 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Hello, Darce, and I see you've had some revealing words 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: from Melody Robinson. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: So what Melody has essentially confirmed to us is that 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: there is if you work backwards backwards from the last 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: thing she said, they are not paying Netball New Zealand 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: anything for the steal. Netball New Zealand is essentially paying 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: for this to go to air because they're paying the 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: production costs. But when the audience hits a certain level, 11 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: at that point there will be rights money that go 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: from TVNZ to Netball New Zealand. 13 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Now, Jenny Wiley was reticent to explain that on the 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 1: program last night. In fact, also another interview with one 15 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: of my colleagues is a netball fiend and Nathan Limb. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: It was very the less she said, the more she 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: said last night. There was a lot of sub diffusions, 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: a lot of walking around it. Well, there's this, and 19 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: we've got to understand that that there's aka to say, hey, 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: we're paying for it. She'd say, we're going into our reserves. 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 2: That's what they're using, the cash reserves. 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: Full take. Yeah, Well and millicit said to me, it's like, well, 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, to pay for your hobby, you've got to 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: re mortgage the house. 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: Hey does this mean then? I mean, think about the 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 2: impact on the players, right they are going to presumably 27 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 2: have their pay cut. 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: Oh they're in negotiation right now, aren't they. 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: And they'll be out there getting part time jobs or 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,199 Speaker 2: full time jobs to be able to professionally play netball. 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: This is unsustainable? 32 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: Does you'd say so? Is it possible? Though? With the 33 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: amount of eyeballs. I'm fascinated in the balance between eyeballs 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: on the screen because it's free to air and actually 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: cash money and how much you can generate out of 36 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: the eyeballs when it's on free to wear as far 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: as schationship is concerned, even on the dresses around all 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the venues they can I think that people might buy 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: into that, But you'd say that in order to continue 40 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the strength of netball, they need the children playing the game, 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: and how do you get them in. You stick it 42 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: on free to wear TV and it's huge at that 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: younger level, predominantly women, but some men do play it. 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: So I think that people who have been critical of 45 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: netball in New Zealand have got to understand that if 46 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing on offer and no one's got any money 47 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: to pay them, and no one wants to fork up 48 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: any cash, what are they going to do pull the 49 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: pin and walk away. They've got to do something. So 50 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: it's a one year deal and they work from there. 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: It's a pretty tough gig, right, It. 52 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: Is really hard. Actually, I want to talk about Nibel 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: a little bit more later on in the show. Talk 54 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: to me about school sport in z banning the year 55 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 2: four teens blanket ban, which I think is a little 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 2: harsh because in some cases there will be a good 57 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: case for somebody to come back and finish their year thirteen. 58 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: But do they have to play sport? 59 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: What do you think? Do you think when you when 60 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 2: you're a year fourteen? 61 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: What if they what if. 62 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: They're a kid who was advanced, like Clever, advanced through 63 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: the years, so is year twelve age playing at year thirteen, 64 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: but they want to play with their age brackets so 65 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: they stay back another year. 66 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: That might be an excuse. I'm sure there's reason. I'm 67 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: going to be talking about that tonight on this show. 68 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: Then capture. 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: I think when you look at a number of athletes 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: at school now, a lot of schools put in this 71 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: commitment that if you don't do your studies and don't 72 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: do your work, you're not going to play anyway. So 73 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: you don't have people repeating that year of school. So 74 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: if they put conditions parameters around like that, then you 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: don't have that problem, right. But I think mainly it's 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: pointed at schools who are in essence cheating. 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: Oh no, I totally agree. I just think blanket bands 78 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: are too inflexible. Right, There will be things. 79 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: It's very tough. Yeah, it's very tough, but I think 80 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: you've got to look after the mini and you make 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: those laws based on the many, not the feutu. 82 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Listen, and very quickly you've got Lima years 83 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: coming back to play with the Mulus. 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: We'll have a good chat to Lima well. I actually 85 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: have already to tell the truth. He's a top bloke. 86 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward for you. Wanted to hear that. 87 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: Thanks Dars Darcy Watergrove Sports Talk Hoost. 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