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Speaker 1: Big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 1: big conversations. It's all on Weekend Sport with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: on your home of Sport News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: Hellodak, You're a good afternoon. Welcome in to the Sunday

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Speaker 3: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks EDB. September twenty one,

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Speaker 3: Good day for West Indies cricket. Happy sixty second birthday

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Speaker 3: to one of their all time great fast bowlers Curtly Ambrose.

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Speaker 3: And happy forty sixth birthday to their most prolific white

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Speaker 3: ball batter, Chris Gail. I'm Jason Pine. Show producer is

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Speaker 3: Andy McDonald. We're talking sport with you until three. Theran

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Speaker 3: Fury Shields Magical Mystery Tour continues.

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Speaker 4: Beat You Bella, Oh Tago have done it. Otago they

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Speaker 4: went the Red Philly Shield for the eighth time of

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Speaker 4: there his three.

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Speaker 3: A fourth new home for the Rand Filly Shield in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. After Otago's come from behind win over

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Speaker 3: Canterbury yesterday, We're checking with the Otago team on the

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Speaker 3: show today. I'd imagine they would have had a pretty

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Speaker 3: good night. Leam Lawson is going to start from third

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Speaker 3: on the grid in tomorrow mornings azerby Jean Grand Prix

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Speaker 3: his best ever qualifying effort, behind only the Red Ball

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Speaker 3: of Max the Staffen and the Ferrari Charlie claut. Liam

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Speaker 3: Lawson steered clear of qualifying chaos, which saw a record

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Speaker 3: six red flag stoppages. Honestly, I can't even remember what happened.

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Speaker 2: It was so busy.

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Speaker 5: Obviously it's still raining now.

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Speaker 4: It was very busy.

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Speaker 6: I said it would be, but I didn't expect it

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Speaker 3: More on that this afternoon with the New Zealand Heralds

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Speaker 3: motorsport expert Alex Powell. Could we see a Kiwi on

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Speaker 3: the Formula one podium for the first time since Denny

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Speaker 3: Holm won the Argentine Grand Prix in nineteen seventy four

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Speaker 3: and Maddie where she has cement to the Tokyo twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty five is New Zealand's most successful ever World Athletics Championships,

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Speaker 3: winning bronze and the women's shot put to take out

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Speaker 3: tally to three, including two gold. New Zealand, the currently

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Speaker 3: fifth on the medal table. Connor Bell still to compete

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Speaker 3: in the men's discus final tonight. Going to celebrate that

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Speaker 3: this afternoon with Sarah Cowley Ross after one Silver Fir

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Speaker 3: and Shooter, Grace Wiki is with us. How has the

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Speaker 3: team navigated one of the most tumultuous times in the

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Speaker 3: sport's history to get ready for the three match Tiny

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Speaker 3: Jemison Series against South Africa which starts in Auckland tonight.

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Speaker 3: Grace Wiki is on the show after one other matters

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Speaker 3: around today, we'll get your state side to check the

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Speaker 3: latest and American sport with Leon Busby, James mcconey and

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Speaker 3: his regular slot. Leading us off today though, is the

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Speaker 3: voice of the Wallabies Sean Maloney. After the record defeat

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Speaker 3: to the spring Box last weekend. Are the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: vulnerable to a raid for the Bledisloe Cup over the

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Speaker 3: next two weekends? Shawn Maloney on that and then I'm

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Speaker 3: keen to read your pulse on this as well. We'll

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Speaker 3: last weekend serve as motivation and produce an All Blacks

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Speaker 3: response or could Australia capitalize on an unsettled All Black

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Speaker 3: side and threatened the Eden Park Fortress six nights from now.

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Speaker 3: Linees open on that for the next hour or so,

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Speaker 3: but a live sport this afternoon Round eight of the

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Speaker 3: Bunnings mp Seat Northland can jump into the playoff spots

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Speaker 3: with victory over winless North Harbor. That game at Albany

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Speaker 3: from five past two. Also the final round of Farah

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Speaker 3: Palmer Cup Round robin before the finals next weekend. The

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Speaker 3: Northland meet in Dunedin from five past two. And just

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Speaker 3: a word on Hayden Wilde, who has continued this incredible

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Speaker 3: perfect record in t one hundred events this year. He's

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Speaker 3: now won in Singapore, London, the French Riviera and overnight

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Speaker 3: in Spain four on the bounce, that after missing the

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Speaker 3: Hayden wild Please get involved in the show if you'd

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Speaker 3: Jason at NEWSTALKSEDB dot co dot Nz coming up eleven past.

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Speaker 1: Midday analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world.

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Speaker 1: Weekends for it with Jason Vive Call eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: Now before we move on the first time or for

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Speaker 3: the first time ever, the All Blacks are bringing you

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Speaker 3: an epic sky fan Zone on the Kennards Outer Oval

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Speaker 3: at Eden Park next Saturday. Food trucks, bars, interactive fun, homegrown,

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Speaker 3: the Family Friend of the All Blacks kickoff at five

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Speaker 3: past five. Now ticket holders can enjoy both pre and

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Speaker 3: fan Zone from one forty five. If you don't have tickets,

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Speaker 3: a double pass to give away. In order to get

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Speaker 3: your hands on it, just text the word bled Uslow

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Speaker 3: to nine two, nine to two. That's all, just the

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Speaker 3: nine to two and we'll draw our winner of the

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Speaker 3: Last Weekend's lost by the All Blacks two South Africa

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Speaker 3: has certainly set the cat amongst the pigeons and has

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Speaker 3: many fans now more than a touch nervous about the

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Speaker 3: upcoming bled Uslow Cup tests, both at Eden Park and

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Speaker 3: back well over two decades, be about to loosen? Massive

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Speaker 3: pleasure to welcome into the show the voice of the

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Speaker 3: Wallabies on stand Sport and Channel nine, Sean Maloney.

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Speaker 7: The noises come up a few decimals at Alice part O'Connor.

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Speaker 2: Why to dogging?

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Speaker 8: Send he has cross and they trying to do with

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Speaker 3: Is this really happening?

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Speaker 8: Dovis's gonna cover a trail doggas is there, mister Hazen?

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Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, this is just too good, this is

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Speaker 3: Absolute delight for Sean Maloney who joins us now. Our

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Speaker 3: congratulations made first of all on your passionate and precise

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Speaker 3: calls on Wallaby's matches, which we're very much enjoyed over here.

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Speaker 3: What was your reaction to the All Blacks record loss

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Speaker 7: Absolute shock, Absolute shock, So Matte, I'd done that afternoon

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Speaker 7: now I can't believe that's what transpired in that second half?

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Speaker 3: Wild So are they all Blacks now vulnerable?

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Speaker 2: No, we had no.

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Speaker 7: We had Sunnyville on our show on between two Posts

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Speaker 7: on Stan, which I think Sky and Zed takes as well.

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Speaker 2: Yep, on Monday, and.

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Speaker 7: He lightly highlighted that if he was a part of

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Speaker 7: it was The next game was just like. The response

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Speaker 7: many ways for what Africa did last week.

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Speaker 3: They did, though, have a various very obvious game plan.

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Speaker 3: aerial assault. That's not something which is deep in the

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Speaker 7: It didn't work out at all, throwing those contests schools

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Speaker 7: you what. It shakes up as a great couple of weeks,

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Speaker 3: Look, absolutely we can't wait for the series. And I

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Speaker 3: think every game in the Rugby Championship has been like that.

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Speaker 3: Sean the one over Fiji to start things off, then

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Speaker 7: Well, they are so much improved. They are so they've

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Speaker 7: I mean, mate, last we're saying this the other week,

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Speaker 7: Like you know, if we go back sort of fourteen months,

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Speaker 7: we were we had our issues with Wales for chunks

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Speaker 7: the back of Fiji was.

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Speaker 2: Was great and then.

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Speaker 7: Obviously we had that little slip in the first against

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Speaker 7: the Tests against the lines. But you know, if you

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Speaker 7: put together across those games, it's excellent. So they're going

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Speaker 7: and finally, mate, finally we're getting people in gold jerseys

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Speaker 7: anything else. God, I can get on and it has

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Speaker 7: been I reckon, it's been. Probably I'll be going back

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Speaker 7: maybe twenty years. I must come back to the last

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Speaker 3: Love that, Love that Ellis Park. I mean inexplicable scenes

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Speaker 3: and then thirty eight unuanced points to win it. Where

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Speaker 3: Now you all know these stats. The last time anyone

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Speaker 2: This, it's more than just a game.

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Speaker 3: Be twelve thirty off to the phones in a moment

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Speaker 3: a couple of text ough. Mahendra says, I still believe

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Speaker 12: Right there, right there, right now. Yeah, I'm a bit

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Speaker 12: you know when you get beaten like that, you know

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Speaker 12: then they come back. That's brutal and inspired and to

430
00:23:18,987 --> 00:23:23,547
Speaker 12: come back and put in a good performance passion. I

431
00:23:23,587 --> 00:23:26,067
Speaker 12: wouldn't be because the other thing, too, is like we're

432
00:23:26,107 --> 00:23:28,587
Speaker 12: having camera would go back, that'd be great. I thought

433
00:23:28,747 --> 00:23:34,387
Speaker 12: Hoping was good although we got beaten that last week.

434
00:23:34,427 --> 00:23:36,387
Speaker 12: I thought he was good until did he get off

435
00:23:36,467 --> 00:23:37,107
Speaker 12: injured or something.

436
00:23:37,227 --> 00:23:39,667
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the first half he didn't. He didn't play

437
00:23:39,707 --> 00:23:42,787
Speaker 3: for very long. Phil that was that was the issue,

438
00:23:42,827 --> 00:23:44,347
Speaker 3: and it was such a shame because he's been out

439
00:23:44,427 --> 00:23:46,827
Speaker 3: with that ankle injury and then had come back and

440
00:23:46,947 --> 00:23:49,907
Speaker 3: only lasted ten to fifteen minutes. But I think he

441
00:23:50,147 --> 00:23:53,987
Speaker 3: has probably even with Ratima fit I think Noah Hotham

442
00:23:54,027 --> 00:23:57,987
Speaker 3: has probably if not jumped into second spot, then certainly

443
00:23:58,107 --> 00:24:02,067
Speaker 3: is contesting hard for that second spot with Cortez Ortima.

444
00:24:02,387 --> 00:24:04,107
Speaker 3: I was very sorry to see him go off last week.

445
00:24:05,147 --> 00:24:07,547
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I think so too, and I just I

446
00:24:07,627 --> 00:24:10,467
Speaker 12: was just trying to remember, but yeah, I remember thinking

447
00:24:10,547 --> 00:24:12,347
Speaker 12: he was going quite well until he went off, and

448
00:24:12,387 --> 00:24:13,787
Speaker 12: it was a real shame that he got injured and

449
00:24:13,907 --> 00:24:17,987
Speaker 12: went off. And the debut of the Winger was good too,

450
00:24:18,747 --> 00:24:23,547
Speaker 12: with the speech stuff. But yeah, Lee Ricardo, he was

451
00:24:23,587 --> 00:24:29,787
Speaker 12: good while he was on. But having having the hooker,

452
00:24:31,347 --> 00:24:34,267
Speaker 12: oh what Cody Taylor. Having Cody Taylor back will be

453
00:24:34,307 --> 00:24:38,347
Speaker 12: a big boost too, because we really missed him last week.

454
00:24:39,107 --> 00:24:41,307
Speaker 12: Not to say, you know, bad about the hook that

455
00:24:41,427 --> 00:24:44,467
Speaker 12: they brought on, but yeah, we really missed him, I

456
00:24:44,507 --> 00:24:46,867
Speaker 12: think too in a leadership role as well, because I

457
00:24:46,947 --> 00:24:50,267
Speaker 12: think he's the sort of guy that, although he's not,

458
00:24:50,387 --> 00:24:52,947
Speaker 12: you know, the official captain or whatever, but he's probably

459
00:24:52,987 --> 00:24:55,787
Speaker 12: one of those leaders type people on the field that

460
00:24:55,907 --> 00:24:58,107
Speaker 12: can say like, come on, boys, let's get into it,

461
00:24:58,187 --> 00:25:00,787
Speaker 12: you know, and and help to lift them and get

462
00:25:00,827 --> 00:25:04,827
Speaker 12: some spirits by them and cheer them up. But the Ausies,

463
00:25:04,867 --> 00:25:08,107
Speaker 12: you know, I really I think they're on the way up,

464
00:25:08,187 --> 00:25:09,787
Speaker 12: back to the old Ozies. He used to give us

465
00:25:09,827 --> 00:25:12,427
Speaker 12: those great games that we used to have and Smith

466
00:25:12,707 --> 00:25:15,307
Speaker 12: Smith go a really good so they'll they'll give us

467
00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,227
Speaker 12: a real good go. I reckon a way she won't

468
00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:17,707
Speaker 12: be easy.

469
00:25:17,907 --> 00:25:21,227
Speaker 3: I don't know, well, I agree. Look they like I

470
00:25:21,307 --> 00:25:23,147
Speaker 3: said before, you know, I guess I was trying to

471
00:25:23,187 --> 00:25:25,667
Speaker 3: paint it into a more positive light for us. The

472
00:25:25,747 --> 00:25:29,267
Speaker 3: fact that they lost to Argentina probably should have lost

473
00:25:29,307 --> 00:25:31,347
Speaker 3: the previous week, lost to South Africa the week before that,

474
00:25:31,507 --> 00:25:33,507
Speaker 3: so you know, they could have they could be coming

475
00:25:33,547 --> 00:25:36,427
Speaker 3: here with three straight losses. But they have shone more

476
00:25:36,507 --> 00:25:39,227
Speaker 3: than enough to suggest that you're right, they are getting

477
00:25:39,307 --> 00:25:41,707
Speaker 3: back to where they used to be. Those matches that

478
00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:43,787
Speaker 3: you know, you and I probably remember from the back

479
00:25:43,907 --> 00:25:46,787
Speaker 3: end of the nineties only two thousands where we didn't

480
00:25:46,827 --> 00:25:49,747
Speaker 3: know from game to game, home or away who was

481
00:25:49,787 --> 00:25:51,907
Speaker 3: going to win those games. It was such an evenly

482
00:25:52,347 --> 00:25:56,707
Speaker 3: contested trans Tasmen competition between the two of us at

483
00:25:56,747 --> 00:25:57,147
Speaker 3: that time.

484
00:25:58,227 --> 00:26:01,187
Speaker 12: Yeah, she was. She was a real ding gong bettle,

485
00:26:01,307 --> 00:26:03,467
Speaker 12: like you say, and you didn't. He nextly reminds me

486
00:26:03,587 --> 00:26:06,387
Speaker 12: of I say, like, because I tried to ring this

487
00:26:06,467 --> 00:26:08,427
Speaker 12: week and I couldn't get in, you know, on the

488
00:26:08,507 --> 00:26:10,907
Speaker 12: Saturday or the Sunday, because it's just so busy. But

489
00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:14,067
Speaker 12: I was going to say too, because I remember listening

490
00:26:14,147 --> 00:26:16,107
Speaker 12: to when you were talking about the loss and what

491
00:26:16,187 --> 00:26:18,467
Speaker 12: went wrong and that sort of thing, and it made

492
00:26:18,507 --> 00:26:22,427
Speaker 12: me think of an old quote of old Peter fitz Simon,

493
00:26:23,147 --> 00:26:24,907
Speaker 12: and you know what a good player he wasn't that?

494
00:26:25,147 --> 00:26:27,947
Speaker 12: And I remember he said, I listened to an interview

495
00:26:28,107 --> 00:26:31,667
Speaker 12: and he said that those days when he played, you know,

496
00:26:31,867 --> 00:26:35,147
Speaker 12: and they come running out onto the field and they've

497
00:26:35,187 --> 00:26:41,947
Speaker 12: seen guys like Buck Shelford and Richard Lowe and Sean

498
00:26:42,027 --> 00:26:44,587
Speaker 12: Fitzpatrick's standing there. He said, you just looked at those

499
00:26:44,707 --> 00:26:46,787
Speaker 12: guys and you just knew they were hard men and

500
00:26:46,867 --> 00:26:49,427
Speaker 12: you were in for a real hard game. And I

501
00:26:50,027 --> 00:26:53,507
Speaker 12: don't think I think with the all Blacks. That kind

502
00:26:53,547 --> 00:26:56,067
Speaker 12: of doesn't happen so much now, you know.

503
00:26:56,947 --> 00:26:58,707
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look at the current light. Yeah, Phil, I

504
00:26:58,787 --> 00:27:01,467
Speaker 3: think you probably hit on something there. I think there

505
00:27:01,587 --> 00:27:05,307
Speaker 3: was a certainly an intimidation factor. And I'm not saying

506
00:27:05,307 --> 00:27:07,347
Speaker 3: that that was the and the all Black speak the

507
00:27:07,427 --> 00:27:11,347
Speaker 3: Wallabies on occasion, because as I said, they beat us

508
00:27:11,427 --> 00:27:14,267
Speaker 3: just as often. But there was you looked across and

509
00:27:14,347 --> 00:27:16,947
Speaker 3: you saw some hard men. And those teams are the

510
00:27:17,027 --> 00:27:20,387
Speaker 3: late eighties and the back end of the nineties. You know,

511
00:27:20,507 --> 00:27:22,787
Speaker 3: there was some players there. You looked across and you

512
00:27:22,907 --> 00:27:26,587
Speaker 3: saw world class players. There are still some world class

513
00:27:26,627 --> 00:27:28,867
Speaker 3: players in the New Zealand side. I think your name

514
00:27:28,907 --> 00:27:30,987
Speaker 3: a World fifteen and the likes of Artie Savier and

515
00:27:31,347 --> 00:27:34,667
Speaker 3: Will Jordan are certainly in those conversations, but maybe not

516
00:27:34,747 --> 00:27:36,667
Speaker 3: to the extent that it was good to chat philp.

517
00:27:36,707 --> 00:27:39,547
Speaker 3: Hope we can do it next weekend, Pat says Piney,

518
00:27:39,547 --> 00:27:42,467
Speaker 3: who at New Zealand Rugby finally woke up and scheduled

519
00:27:42,467 --> 00:27:44,907
Speaker 3: a test for five o'clock. Great for rugby, Great for

520
00:27:44,947 --> 00:27:48,467
Speaker 3: Auckland Hospital to really capitalize on pre and postgame. Brilliant.

521
00:27:48,507 --> 00:27:51,587
Speaker 3: Hope it continues. I still don't know why I haven't

522
00:27:51,627 --> 00:27:54,027
Speaker 3: been able to get an answer about, not that I've

523
00:27:54,027 --> 00:27:56,107
Speaker 3: already asked. You know, I haven't dug deep into this.

524
00:27:56,267 --> 00:27:58,907
Speaker 3: Why this is a five o'clock kickoff because the South

525
00:27:58,947 --> 00:28:01,347
Speaker 3: Africa Argentina gamer is in the early hours of Sunday morning.

526
00:28:01,427 --> 00:28:04,027
Speaker 3: It's in South Africa, so it's not like they have

527
00:28:04,067 --> 00:28:07,067
Speaker 3: to shed a litle around that. Someone told me that

528
00:28:07,147 --> 00:28:10,707
Speaker 3: it might be because the NRL finals are on or

529
00:28:10,747 --> 00:28:15,627
Speaker 3: the you know, the the preliminary finals and the a

530
00:28:15,907 --> 00:28:18,187
Speaker 3: f L Grand Final is on, but that's in the afternoon,

531
00:28:18,267 --> 00:28:20,827
Speaker 3: so I'm not sure why that would. I mean, if anything,

532
00:28:20,827 --> 00:28:22,667
Speaker 3: you want to stay away from the Aussie Rules Final,

533
00:28:22,747 --> 00:28:25,427
Speaker 3: you have it at seven o'clock. And since when if

534
00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:28,587
Speaker 3: we worried about what the NRL have done, they don't

535
00:28:28,587 --> 00:28:31,467
Speaker 3: care about the All Blacks clearly, otherwise they wouldn't scheduled

536
00:28:32,187 --> 00:28:35,827
Speaker 3: the Warriors up against the Panthers directly opposite last weekend?

537
00:28:36,027 --> 00:28:36,307
Speaker 7: Is he on?

538
00:28:36,427 --> 00:28:39,107
Speaker 3: No, why it's a five o'clock Well see if we

539
00:28:39,147 --> 00:28:39,627
Speaker 3: can find.

540
00:28:39,507 --> 00:28:43,587
Speaker 13: Out he and Hi mate, Hi Hi Barne. So listenly,

541
00:28:43,627 --> 00:28:50,347
Speaker 13: congratulations to Otago. Oh yes, oh yes, Jimmy, that's the

542
00:28:50,587 --> 00:28:51,627
Speaker 13: hell of a mess chat one.

543
00:28:51,907 --> 00:28:56,547
Speaker 3: I mean, every ran Philly Shield gave me in this

544
00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:58,827
Speaker 3: year has been utterly tremendous.

545
00:28:59,187 --> 00:29:01,987
Speaker 13: At three tremendous what's it four now.

546
00:29:01,987 --> 00:29:05,267
Speaker 3: Par yep four four different places it's been that hasn't happened,

547
00:29:05,267 --> 00:29:11,307
Speaker 3: I'm told in for seventy Yeah, incredible, unbelievable.

548
00:29:11,547 --> 00:29:14,467
Speaker 13: He fine, he's Scott Beard well ha been mean he's

549
00:29:14,467 --> 00:29:21,867
Speaker 13: get intructured you sooner? Is leadership nonexistent, non existant, strategically

550
00:29:21,947 --> 00:29:26,707
Speaker 13: and tactically, not inspiring and motivating. And he is, in

551
00:29:26,867 --> 00:29:30,027
Speaker 13: my eyes, it's not even the top four locks in

552
00:29:30,067 --> 00:29:32,467
Speaker 13: New Zealand rugby at the moment. Sam Darry's far better

553
00:29:33,907 --> 00:29:34,347
Speaker 13: I think on.

554
00:29:34,387 --> 00:29:36,747
Speaker 3: His day and he is among the best locks. I

555
00:29:37,867 --> 00:29:40,467
Speaker 3: would say that he is one of the best two

556
00:29:40,587 --> 00:29:43,667
Speaker 3: locks in the country on his day. We spoke a

557
00:29:43,667 --> 00:29:46,587
Speaker 3: lot about Scott Barrett last weekend and even on Monday

558
00:29:46,627 --> 00:29:48,387
Speaker 3: night as well, and I just I don't know. I

559
00:29:49,627 --> 00:29:53,547
Speaker 3: wonder whether he might be better off being unencumbered by

560
00:29:54,107 --> 00:29:56,467
Speaker 3: the captaincy because I don't know, it just seems to

561
00:29:56,587 --> 00:29:59,307
Speaker 3: furrow his brow a lot at the moment. You know,

562
00:29:59,347 --> 00:30:01,867
Speaker 3: I don't think they'll make a change, but yeah, I

563
00:30:01,987 --> 00:30:03,387
Speaker 3: take on board what you're saying. I think he's a

564
00:30:03,507 --> 00:30:06,467
Speaker 3: terrific rugby player. He's been given the captain c. I

565
00:30:06,627 --> 00:30:09,307
Speaker 3: just don't know whether it sits as comfortably on his

566
00:30:09,427 --> 00:30:12,227
Speaker 3: shoulders as everybody hoped that it would.

567
00:30:13,547 --> 00:30:14,827
Speaker 13: Ardie Chave is far better.

568
00:30:16,507 --> 00:30:17,867
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well he's the other option, isn't it. And that

569
00:30:17,867 --> 00:30:20,027
Speaker 3: doesn't help Scott Barrett either. Knowing that there's someone in

570
00:30:20,107 --> 00:30:21,467
Speaker 3: the team who I think if we had a vote

571
00:30:21,467 --> 00:30:25,707
Speaker 3: to in, if we took a hundred texts or the

572
00:30:25,827 --> 00:30:28,347
Speaker 3: rugby public had a vote, I think most people would

573
00:30:28,347 --> 00:30:30,387
Speaker 3: say Artie Saves should be the captain. I don't think

574
00:30:30,427 --> 00:30:33,507
Speaker 3: they'll make a change. I would love to see Scott

575
00:30:33,547 --> 00:30:36,947
Speaker 3: Barrett dominate the Test match like he did against South

576
00:30:36,947 --> 00:30:39,427
Speaker 3: Africa the previous week at Eden Parker. I thought he

577
00:30:39,507 --> 00:30:41,667
Speaker 3: was tremendous that night and I thought that was going

578
00:30:41,747 --> 00:30:44,667
Speaker 3: to be the turning point for him. Unfortunately, the loss

579
00:30:44,707 --> 00:30:48,027
Speaker 3: in Wellington and what happened afterwards as well. I just

580
00:30:48,067 --> 00:30:50,827
Speaker 3: think we needed more from him afterwards as well. And

581
00:30:50,907 --> 00:30:52,547
Speaker 3: I know it's not as important as what you do

582
00:30:52,667 --> 00:30:56,587
Speaker 3: on the field, but I think we needed more from

583
00:30:56,947 --> 00:31:02,147
Speaker 3: Scott Barrett afterwards, you know, being as upset as we were. Again.

584
00:31:02,987 --> 00:31:04,907
Speaker 3: Part of his persona is that he doesn't ride the

585
00:31:04,987 --> 00:31:08,507
Speaker 3: highs too high or the lie too low. Very level guy,

586
00:31:08,627 --> 00:31:10,627
Speaker 3: and that is probably why he's done so well on

587
00:31:10,747 --> 00:31:13,907
Speaker 3: rugby at the elite level. But I would have liked

588
00:31:13,907 --> 00:31:16,827
Speaker 3: to have seen a bit more emotion from him on

589
00:31:16,907 --> 00:31:19,147
Speaker 3: the back end of the biggest defeat the All Blacks

590
00:31:19,187 --> 00:31:19,827
Speaker 3: have ever suffered.

591
00:31:19,867 --> 00:31:20,067
Speaker 7: Ian.

592
00:31:20,067 --> 00:31:24,707
Speaker 3: Thanks for chatting, mate, I appreciate it, Bryan says Jason.

593
00:31:24,787 --> 00:31:26,947
Speaker 3: The sadistic side of me would somehow enjoy seeing the

594
00:31:26,947 --> 00:31:29,267
Speaker 3: All Blacks lose the two games to Australia, just to

595
00:31:29,427 --> 00:31:32,467
Speaker 3: listen to the meltdown on your show. I don't believe

596
00:31:32,467 --> 00:31:38,147
Speaker 3: it will happen, but it could. Yeah, I'll move, I'll

597
00:31:38,227 --> 00:31:40,947
Speaker 3: move to the to the next one. A lot of

598
00:31:40,947 --> 00:31:44,707
Speaker 3: people asking about Otago. We are going to cover Otago,

599
00:31:45,027 --> 00:31:47,907
Speaker 3: don't worry, we are going to cover Otago's one in

600
00:31:47,947 --> 00:31:50,027
Speaker 3: the Ramhilly Shield. Going to do it after one o'clock

601
00:31:50,027 --> 00:31:52,587
Speaker 3: when a chat actually to their head coach, how was

602
00:31:52,627 --> 00:31:56,867
Speaker 3: their night, who looked after it and how do they

603
00:31:56,907 --> 00:31:58,667
Speaker 3: plan to keep it in a year where it just

604
00:31:58,907 --> 00:32:02,227
Speaker 3: seems to be changing hands every week. Grant, please hold

605
00:32:02,307 --> 00:32:04,187
Speaker 3: mate with you. After the Spere line, we're talking rugby

606
00:32:04,267 --> 00:32:06,027
Speaker 3: till one oh eight hundred eighty ten.

607
00:32:05,987 --> 00:32:10,107
Speaker 1: Eighty The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with

608
00:32:10,307 --> 00:32:14,267
Speaker 1: Jason Kine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home

609
00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:15,107
Speaker 1: builder News.

610
00:32:14,947 --> 00:32:20,187
Speaker 3: Talk twelve forty five. Don't Panic twelve forty five. Luke

611
00:32:20,187 --> 00:32:22,267
Speaker 3: says probably have more nerves going into this week than

612
00:32:22,307 --> 00:32:24,747
Speaker 3: going into South Africa at Eden Park two weeks ago.

613
00:32:25,027 --> 00:32:27,427
Speaker 3: I still think we'll respond though, and lock Le Burislow

614
00:32:27,507 --> 00:32:31,027
Speaker 3: back up Lester to start at center, although Wacuto shows

615
00:32:31,307 --> 00:32:33,427
Speaker 3: how to keep him quiet last night and Roy Guard

616
00:32:33,547 --> 00:32:37,667
Speaker 3: back starting. Thank you, Luke, Max is made. I'm so

617
00:32:37,787 --> 00:32:40,707
Speaker 3: happy for those Otago boys. Yesterday was one of the

618
00:32:40,827 --> 00:32:45,387
Speaker 3: great Shield games. These upstarts have been phenomenal. Dylan Pledger,

619
00:32:45,547 --> 00:32:48,427
Speaker 3: Lucas Casey, a star is born. Max. That Lucas Casey,

620
00:32:49,627 --> 00:32:54,267
Speaker 3: My god, did you see those trace he scored? Unreal?

621
00:32:54,587 --> 00:32:56,987
Speaker 3: I'll ask him Mark Brown the coach about him and

622
00:32:57,107 --> 00:33:00,907
Speaker 3: other things after one. Hello Grant, thank you for holding Yeah.

623
00:33:00,907 --> 00:33:04,667
Speaker 14: If any previous screps was right, even I couldn't get

624
00:33:04,747 --> 00:33:07,907
Speaker 14: through last weekend and Andy was saying was the busiest

625
00:33:08,027 --> 00:33:08,707
Speaker 14: he's ever known.

626
00:33:08,747 --> 00:33:12,387
Speaker 3: It was a busy old weekend I expect next weekend

627
00:33:12,467 --> 00:33:14,187
Speaker 3: to be just as busy, Grant, but good to jet

628
00:33:14,227 --> 00:33:16,187
Speaker 3: to you on are slightly quieter Sunday.

629
00:33:16,667 --> 00:33:18,627
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, I thought I've got to I've got to

630
00:33:18,627 --> 00:33:22,947
Speaker 14: get through this stock anyway, a couple of things. Selection

631
00:33:23,707 --> 00:33:26,587
Speaker 14: and I don't even know who the other two selectors

632
00:33:26,627 --> 00:33:29,387
Speaker 14: are on the three Many battle, but obviously Raiser has

633
00:33:29,467 --> 00:33:31,187
Speaker 14: the final say, and.

634
00:33:32,787 --> 00:33:36,187
Speaker 3: I can tell Grant, Jason Ryan and Scott Hanson the

635
00:33:36,267 --> 00:33:37,507
Speaker 3: three of them select the team.

636
00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:40,907
Speaker 14: Okay, yeah, well they all have to take a bit

637
00:33:40,947 --> 00:33:42,947
Speaker 14: of the bin. But I said Razor, obviously we'd have

638
00:33:43,027 --> 00:33:48,187
Speaker 14: the final say. It's his disagreement, and that is tupou

639
00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:53,827
Speaker 14: Vai had been playing fantastically at blindside flanker Holland debuing

640
00:33:53,987 --> 00:33:57,107
Speaker 14: had been playing fantastically is Locke, So what if Raza

641
00:33:57,227 --> 00:34:00,227
Speaker 14: do He puts tupou Vai back to Locke and puts

642
00:34:00,267 --> 00:34:01,227
Speaker 14: Holland on the bench.

643
00:34:02,587 --> 00:34:06,587
Speaker 3: I thought that was an unusual decision as well. They

644
00:34:06,707 --> 00:34:11,587
Speaker 3: stuck obviously with what worked in Auckland, because you'll remember

645
00:34:11,627 --> 00:34:14,467
Speaker 3: that went back to Locke in Auckland. Simon Parker came in.

646
00:34:14,787 --> 00:34:17,667
Speaker 3: I think they're massive fans of Simon Parker. But having

647
00:34:17,747 --> 00:34:20,147
Speaker 3: said that grant like you. When they played too Porva

648
00:34:20,827 --> 00:34:23,627
Speaker 3: at blindside in four of the first five Test matches

649
00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:26,067
Speaker 3: of the year, I thought that meant they were all

650
00:34:26,147 --> 00:34:28,227
Speaker 3: in on him. I thought that meant that he was

651
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:30,827
Speaker 3: going to wear six against South Africa. And I thought,

652
00:34:30,827 --> 00:34:33,467
Speaker 3: Fabian Holand you're right, had what he played the first

653
00:34:34,147 --> 00:34:36,707
Speaker 3: five test matches? He started the first five tests, didn't he?

654
00:34:36,907 --> 00:34:37,987
Speaker 3: And I thought was very good?

655
00:34:39,187 --> 00:34:39,387
Speaker 7: Yeah?

656
00:34:39,667 --> 00:34:44,507
Speaker 14: Yeah, And Parker, you know, he's okay, but to my mind,

657
00:34:44,747 --> 00:34:47,307
Speaker 14: he's for the type of game. Well raise, they keep

658
00:34:47,347 --> 00:34:49,667
Speaker 14: saying the fast game and then they do box kicking

659
00:34:50,067 --> 00:34:53,787
Speaker 14: all the time, and anyway, you know, he pears a

660
00:34:53,867 --> 00:34:57,627
Speaker 14: bit too slow and that for the type of game

661
00:34:57,947 --> 00:35:01,107
Speaker 14: that they want to play. Good player, but anyway, we'll

662
00:35:01,107 --> 00:35:03,867
Speaker 14: see how they go with that selection.

663
00:35:04,347 --> 00:35:07,107
Speaker 11: And yeah, I mentioned you've mentioned it.

664
00:35:07,507 --> 00:35:11,387
Speaker 14: Have you ever talked to anyone who actually thinks that

665
00:35:11,467 --> 00:35:13,107
Speaker 14: the box kicking is a good idea?

666
00:35:14,627 --> 00:35:14,667
Speaker 7: No?

667
00:35:14,867 --> 00:35:18,027
Speaker 3: I haven't, No, I haven't, And in fact, I've spoken

668
00:35:18,067 --> 00:35:22,827
Speaker 3: to more people who just detest it, if I'm honest

669
00:35:22,827 --> 00:35:28,587
Speaker 3: with including Wayne Smith. I think he was a passionate

670
00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:32,147
Speaker 3: opponent of the box kick. They clearly do it for

671
00:35:32,227 --> 00:35:35,067
Speaker 3: a reason, mate, Otherwise they wouldn't do it. They clearly

672
00:35:35,107 --> 00:35:38,947
Speaker 3: do it for a reason. They believe that contestable ball

673
00:35:39,987 --> 00:35:44,627
Speaker 3: is a better option than trying to either bash it

674
00:35:44,707 --> 00:35:46,547
Speaker 3: out or run it out from their own twenty two

675
00:35:46,667 --> 00:35:48,867
Speaker 3: or inside their own half. They never box kick in

676
00:35:48,947 --> 00:35:52,547
Speaker 3: the opposition half obviously, But yeah, I can only presume

677
00:35:52,707 --> 00:35:56,387
Speaker 3: that the science behind the strategy is sound, otherwise they

678
00:35:56,427 --> 00:35:56,987
Speaker 3: wouldn't do it.

679
00:35:57,907 --> 00:36:00,627
Speaker 14: Well, yeah, well, how I would disagree with that is

680
00:36:00,867 --> 00:36:02,747
Speaker 14: when the half back. I mean, obviously, if you're hard

681
00:36:02,787 --> 00:36:05,227
Speaker 14: on the fence on your goal liner in your twenty two, sure,

682
00:36:05,267 --> 00:36:07,427
Speaker 14: any topic kick you need to kick it out, at

683
00:36:07,507 --> 00:36:09,787
Speaker 14: least it's the last minutes and you need to try.

684
00:36:09,907 --> 00:36:12,787
Speaker 14: But okay, when the box kicking comes from either the

685
00:36:12,907 --> 00:36:16,747
Speaker 14: rucks or the scrub. Now, to do a box kick,

686
00:36:16,787 --> 00:36:19,187
Speaker 14: the halfback has to have the ball in his hands,

687
00:36:19,467 --> 00:36:22,427
Speaker 14: so he's got one hundred percent possession. Besides, got one

688
00:36:22,507 --> 00:36:25,187
Speaker 14: hundred percent possession, do a box kick, you've only got

689
00:36:25,227 --> 00:36:27,147
Speaker 14: a fifty to fifty chance to get the ball back.

690
00:36:27,307 --> 00:36:28,827
Speaker 14: Can't work out the mass?

691
00:36:29,267 --> 00:36:31,547
Speaker 3: No, you, no, and no. The maths are sound, and

692
00:36:31,947 --> 00:36:33,587
Speaker 3: the only bit does not sound grant is that we're

693
00:36:33,587 --> 00:36:36,747
Speaker 3: not winning fifty percent of them. I spoke about this

694
00:36:36,867 --> 00:36:38,907
Speaker 3: last week with Jason. Ryan said, if it's fifty fifty,

695
00:36:39,227 --> 00:36:41,347
Speaker 3: then why are we winning fifty percent of them? Because

696
00:36:41,387 --> 00:36:45,027
Speaker 3: we aren't. So look again, I think the tactics I

697
00:36:45,107 --> 00:36:48,107
Speaker 3: hope anyway, will be different against Australia. I hope we

698
00:36:48,227 --> 00:36:51,427
Speaker 3: see less kicking from the you know, from the base

699
00:36:52,027 --> 00:36:55,627
Speaker 3: next weekend. I guess we'll wait and see. Thanks for chatting, grunt,

700
00:36:55,707 --> 00:36:58,547
Speaker 3: good to have you come through. Well, we maybe will

701
00:36:58,627 --> 00:37:00,187
Speaker 3: chat next weekend, although I get the feeling will be

702
00:37:00,187 --> 00:37:02,667
Speaker 3: busy again. But as much chance as anybody you're getting through.

703
00:37:02,667 --> 00:37:04,987
Speaker 3: Always enjoy chatting. And he says, I'm not so sure

704
00:37:05,027 --> 00:37:08,387
Speaker 3: about Eden Park. This is where we'll see Joe Schmidt's

705
00:37:08,427 --> 00:37:11,907
Speaker 3: blueprints on this Wallaby side. So yes, the All Blacks

706
00:37:11,947 --> 00:37:14,907
Speaker 3: perhaps will win, but it'll do nothing to mask the

707
00:37:14,987 --> 00:37:18,587
Speaker 3: bigger problem with the team. But how good yet? All

708
00:37:18,627 --> 00:37:21,787
Speaker 3: over the show is the NPC. My team wins the Shield,

709
00:37:21,827 --> 00:37:25,427
Speaker 3: says Andy, then concede nearly one hundred and eighty points

710
00:37:25,467 --> 00:37:28,387
Speaker 3: in three weeks. You gotta love it. I do love

711
00:37:28,427 --> 00:37:30,627
Speaker 3: the Shield, I must say. I got home from work

712
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,707
Speaker 3: yesterday and sat down and watched that Shield match Canterbury

713
00:37:33,747 --> 00:37:36,627
Speaker 3: Otago and I just thought Cannabury might just buck the

714
00:37:36,667 --> 00:37:39,507
Speaker 3: trend of twenty twenty five. It might just be that. Yes,

715
00:37:39,547 --> 00:37:42,387
Speaker 3: it's been shared around. Yes, Tatanuki gave it to Whyite

716
00:37:42,387 --> 00:37:44,427
Speaker 3: cut or White Cuttle, gave it to Southland. Southland gave

717
00:37:44,467 --> 00:37:46,947
Speaker 3: it to Canterbury and Tasman almost won out last weekend.

718
00:37:46,987 --> 00:37:49,067
Speaker 3: But I thought, nah, that's a Cannabury will win it.

719
00:37:49,107 --> 00:37:50,667
Speaker 3: They'll lock it up. That's just what they do in

720
00:37:50,787 --> 00:37:53,627
Speaker 3: Red and Black Country. And they were fifteen points ahead

721
00:37:53,667 --> 00:38:00,747
Speaker 3: with twenty minutes to go. But Otago incredible that Lucas Casey.

722
00:38:01,147 --> 00:38:03,227
Speaker 3: I wasn't aware of that cat. I haven't watched enough

723
00:38:03,267 --> 00:38:06,827
Speaker 3: of Otago to have for him to sort of rotated

724
00:38:06,867 --> 00:38:09,627
Speaker 3: into my orbit. But those two tries he got, the

725
00:38:09,747 --> 00:38:13,627
Speaker 3: second one, just see him step the fallback. It's running

726
00:38:13,747 --> 00:38:17,227
Speaker 3: like a center. Chris says Ponty. I'd love to see

727
00:38:17,227 --> 00:38:19,267
Speaker 3: the Bleedersloe Cup go back to the old way the

728
00:38:19,387 --> 00:38:22,427
Speaker 3: last game of the series, where ever that game is held. Yeah,

729
00:38:22,427 --> 00:38:27,907
Speaker 3: the three game Bledislow Cup series. Chris, you know that.

730
00:38:28,627 --> 00:38:30,867
Speaker 3: When was the last time we had three Bledisloe Cup tests.

731
00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:33,587
Speaker 3: I know it's a clogged calendar, but you have to

732
00:38:33,627 --> 00:38:37,267
Speaker 3: go back a whil, don't you, Paul, says Ponty. Due

733
00:38:37,267 --> 00:38:39,347
Speaker 3: to the bad weather they're currently hitting New Zealand. I'd

734
00:38:39,387 --> 00:38:42,507
Speaker 3: say it'd be fitting to call the NPC off now

735
00:38:42,587 --> 00:38:47,107
Speaker 3: for the season and give the Mighty Otago the Ranfury

736
00:38:47,187 --> 00:38:49,947
Speaker 3: Shield for the summer. I've only got one more challenge

737
00:38:50,747 --> 00:38:52,667
Speaker 3: and you'd have to think they'll be all right against

738
00:38:52,707 --> 00:38:57,187
Speaker 3: North Harbor. But who would bet against North Harbor taking

739
00:38:57,227 --> 00:38:59,827
Speaker 3: it off Otago and Duneda next week given what has

740
00:38:59,867 --> 00:39:02,867
Speaker 3: happened already this season, and then if North Harbor win it,

741
00:39:03,587 --> 00:39:06,827
Speaker 3: then Southland go to Albany. So Southland good when it's

742
00:39:06,827 --> 00:39:13,587
Speaker 3: back Jason, great game yesterday, Otago over the Evil Empire,

743
00:39:13,667 --> 00:39:16,307
Speaker 3: Canterbury the shield back home. Look for a big future

744
00:39:16,347 --> 00:39:18,187
Speaker 3: for Lucas Casey. Did you see us trist Yeah? I

745
00:39:18,347 --> 00:39:21,547
Speaker 3: liked it, and Bringa says don't forget Piney. The under

746
00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:25,187
Speaker 3: eighty five kilogram final is the curtain raiser for the

747
00:39:25,227 --> 00:39:28,227
Speaker 3: Bledisloe Test next week. Go the mighty old Boys light

748
00:39:28,307 --> 00:39:31,667
Speaker 3: Bears from christ Church into their third final in a row. Brendan,

749
00:39:31,707 --> 00:39:34,787
Speaker 3: I know who you're playing as well. You are playing Pornicky,

750
00:39:36,187 --> 00:39:39,187
Speaker 3: coached by Ross Bond. He's part of the coaching group anyway.

751
00:39:39,187 --> 00:39:42,027
Speaker 3: I don't if he's the actual head coach, but he's involved.

752
00:39:42,307 --> 00:39:44,987
Speaker 3: I got a text from Ross bond last night saying

753
00:39:45,027 --> 00:39:49,267
Speaker 3: I'll see you at Auckland. Where's a Wizards text? I'm

754
00:39:49,267 --> 00:39:50,547
Speaker 3: just going to bring it up here because he was

755
00:39:50,667 --> 00:39:55,387
Speaker 3: He wasn't gloating necessarily. Another day trip to the Land

756
00:39:55,467 --> 00:39:59,867
Speaker 3: of Sales, he said, said BONDI we were thirty three

757
00:39:59,947 --> 00:40:03,507
Speaker 3: seven ahead at halftime. See you at Eden Park next Saturday.

758
00:40:04,387 --> 00:40:07,747
Speaker 3: I will see you a and Park next Saturday, Bondie

759
00:40:07,787 --> 00:40:10,067
Speaker 3: and hopefully you as well. Brandan with the old Boys,

760
00:40:10,187 --> 00:40:13,587
Speaker 3: Light Bears and the Ponnickey side doing battle for the

761
00:40:13,667 --> 00:40:15,587
Speaker 3: Under eighty five Cup for the year. Seven and a

762
00:40:15,627 --> 00:40:16,707
Speaker 3: half to one, New Stalks, b.

763
00:40:18,387 --> 00:40:20,947
Speaker 1: Let's scoop from the trag fields and the court on

764
00:40:21,147 --> 00:40:22,107
Speaker 1: your home of thought.

765
00:40:22,427 --> 00:40:25,587
Speaker 2: We again Sport. Where's Jason vine Us talks NB.

766
00:40:26,227 --> 00:40:28,387
Speaker 3: Four and a half to one. Brendan says on text

767
00:40:28,747 --> 00:40:31,867
Speaker 3: follow up, tell Bondie he's got no chance. Brendan. You

768
00:40:32,067 --> 00:40:33,707
Speaker 3: like Bondie. I think you and he would get on

769
00:40:33,907 --> 00:40:35,747
Speaker 3: very well. I hope you get the chance to chat

770
00:40:35,787 --> 00:40:39,107
Speaker 3: to one another after the game next week. Rich's afternoon finding.

771
00:40:39,187 --> 00:40:42,467
Speaker 3: Nothing makes me more happy than seeing the Ranfurly Shield

772
00:40:42,547 --> 00:40:46,627
Speaker 3: taken off those one eyed Cannery supporters and it coming

773
00:40:46,747 --> 00:40:50,107
Speaker 3: to Otago. Thanks Rich. After one, we are going to

774
00:40:50,227 --> 00:40:53,667
Speaker 3: check in with the Otago team after that utterly magnificent

775
00:40:54,107 --> 00:40:57,587
Speaker 3: shield challenge yesterday. And I think I've said it across

776
00:40:57,627 --> 00:41:00,507
Speaker 3: the year, it's obvious just how much it means to

777
00:41:00,627 --> 00:41:03,787
Speaker 3: these players. All of the teams who have won it

778
00:41:03,907 --> 00:41:11,147
Speaker 3: have just been utterly jubilant at the final whistle. White Cuttle, Southland,

779
00:41:11,627 --> 00:41:17,027
Speaker 3: Canterbury and now Otago just love the ram Philly Shield.

780
00:41:17,107 --> 00:41:19,267
Speaker 3: Mark Brown is their head coach. He's with us after one,

781
00:41:19,747 --> 00:41:21,747
Speaker 3: but first up, after the one o'clock news, we're going

782
00:41:21,787 --> 00:41:25,227
Speaker 3: to get inside the Silver Ferns camp. Utterly tumultuous time

783
00:41:25,387 --> 00:41:27,827
Speaker 3: for the Silver Ferns with the standing down of their

784
00:41:27,867 --> 00:41:30,987
Speaker 3: coach Dave Noling Todoua. How have they managed to navigate

785
00:41:31,067 --> 00:41:34,427
Speaker 3: that and get ready for tonight's first tiny Jamison game.

786
00:41:34,627 --> 00:41:35,787
Speaker 3: Grace Wiki After one.

787
00:41:37,547 --> 00:41:40,387
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest sports issues

788
00:41:40,547 --> 00:41:42,227
Speaker 1: on and after fields.

789
00:41:42,747 --> 00:41:44,507
Speaker 2: It's all on We James Ford.

790
00:41:44,347 --> 00:41:49,587
Speaker 1: With Jason Bade on your Home of Sport Used Talks.

791
00:41:50,427 --> 00:41:54,787
Speaker 3: One O seven Ran Philly Shield Country is Dunedin. Now

792
00:41:55,667 --> 00:41:57,987
Speaker 3: I'm going to get you inside the Otago camp in

793
00:41:58,067 --> 00:42:00,627
Speaker 3: the next fifteen to twenty minutes or so with head

794
00:42:00,667 --> 00:42:04,347
Speaker 3: coach of the side, Mark Brown. I had to pointed

795
00:42:04,347 --> 00:42:09,147
Speaker 3: out to me that the log Awood has now had

796
00:42:09,347 --> 00:42:13,467
Speaker 3: seven different holders since Tasmen won it off Hawke's Bay

797
00:42:14,187 --> 00:42:16,227
Speaker 3: on the seventh of September last year. So was that

798
00:42:16,307 --> 00:42:19,987
Speaker 3: a year and two weeks seven different holders and all

799
00:42:20,187 --> 00:42:24,027
Speaker 3: four South Island NPC teams have now held it during

800
00:42:24,107 --> 00:42:28,467
Speaker 3: that time. Wonder how they're filling in Otago Country. Mark Brown.

801
00:42:28,507 --> 00:42:33,827
Speaker 3: This hour James mconey in his regular slot, also got

802
00:42:33,867 --> 00:42:37,707
Speaker 3: to remind you about the sky fan Zone next Saturday

803
00:42:38,147 --> 00:42:41,027
Speaker 3: on the Kennard's Outer Oval at Eden Park. The All

804
00:42:41,067 --> 00:42:44,067
Speaker 3: Blacks bringing you this for the first time ever. They're

805
00:42:44,067 --> 00:42:45,987
Speaker 3: going to open up a fan zone to ticket holders,

806
00:42:46,027 --> 00:42:47,707
Speaker 3: So if you've got a ticket to the game, you

807
00:42:47,827 --> 00:42:49,747
Speaker 3: can go to the fan zone from one forty five

808
00:42:50,867 --> 00:42:55,947
Speaker 3: member kick off is five past five, food trucks, bars,

809
00:42:56,187 --> 00:43:00,267
Speaker 3: interactive fun, plenty of live music, home growing headline acts.

810
00:43:00,347 --> 00:43:04,067
Speaker 3: DJ Clint Roberts, He's a top man. Ali Monorie Kings

811
00:43:04,387 --> 00:43:06,907
Speaker 3: bringing the energy. But you must have a ticket to

812
00:43:06,947 --> 00:43:09,027
Speaker 3: the game. So if you want to start your day early,

813
00:43:10,147 --> 00:43:13,307
Speaker 3: one five is when you can get to the outer

814
00:43:13,427 --> 00:43:16,107
Speaker 3: oval of Leading Park and get amongst it. Now we're

815
00:43:16,107 --> 00:43:18,387
Speaker 3: going to be broadcasting from there, I'm told, not told,

816
00:43:18,547 --> 00:43:22,867
Speaker 3: I know we are from three o'clock. Don't let that

817
00:43:22,947 --> 00:43:25,587
Speaker 3: put you off, though it should still come if you

818
00:43:25,707 --> 00:43:27,747
Speaker 3: want to. You don't have to come anywhere near us.

819
00:43:27,747 --> 00:43:29,107
Speaker 3: I don't know where they're going to put us, probably

820
00:43:29,147 --> 00:43:31,107
Speaker 3: off to one side. But if you want to come

821
00:43:31,107 --> 00:43:32,387
Speaker 3: and say age day, we'd love to chat to you.

822
00:43:33,027 --> 00:43:36,467
Speaker 3: The show next weekend next Saturday, twelve to three the

823
00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:41,147
Speaker 3: Kingslander on New North Road three till five, the sky

824
00:43:41,307 --> 00:43:43,987
Speaker 3: fan Zone on the outer Oval and then commentary from

825
00:43:44,147 --> 00:43:48,467
Speaker 3: five o'clock with Elliot Smith and Antstorn. What a Saturday anyway?

826
00:43:48,587 --> 00:43:51,947
Speaker 3: As I say, only available the fan zone to ticket holders.

827
00:43:52,667 --> 00:43:56,947
Speaker 3: We have this afternoon two tickets to give away double pass.

828
00:43:58,467 --> 00:44:00,347
Speaker 3: As I've said a few times over the weekend, we

829
00:44:00,467 --> 00:44:02,707
Speaker 3: can't get you to Auckland. You have to find your

830
00:44:02,747 --> 00:44:05,987
Speaker 3: own way there. But if you can get there, then

831
00:44:06,907 --> 00:44:10,187
Speaker 3: flick us a text with the word bled us slow,

832
00:44:10,507 --> 00:44:13,507
Speaker 3: Just led us slow and spell it correctly. Incorrect spellings

833
00:44:13,507 --> 00:44:15,067
Speaker 3: don't make it through what they do, but not to

834
00:44:15,147 --> 00:44:19,147
Speaker 3: the right place. So if you need to check out

835
00:44:19,187 --> 00:44:21,707
Speaker 3: a Spellett before you send it off, do that text.

836
00:44:21,747 --> 00:44:23,587
Speaker 3: The word led us slow to nine two ninety two.

837
00:44:24,107 --> 00:44:26,227
Speaker 3: We're going to draw out one of this afternoon for

838
00:44:26,347 --> 00:44:28,587
Speaker 3: the double pass to the game and also an opportunity

839
00:44:28,627 --> 00:44:31,067
Speaker 3: to join us in the sky fan zone next Saturday.

840
00:44:33,067 --> 00:44:36,787
Speaker 3: Let's shift our attention to netball on the court thankfully.

841
00:44:37,347 --> 00:44:40,947
Speaker 3: The tiny Jamison Netpul series starts tonight in Auckland. The

842
00:44:41,027 --> 00:44:44,347
Speaker 3: Silver Ferns up against South Africa in a three game series.

843
00:44:44,467 --> 00:44:47,227
Speaker 3: Game one event find a Stadium, sent a pass tonight

844
00:44:47,347 --> 00:44:51,427
Speaker 3: at seven forty. Game two in Napier Wednesday night, same time,

845
00:44:51,627 --> 00:44:55,747
Speaker 3: then in for cargol next Sunday evening again at seven forty.

846
00:44:56,107 --> 00:44:59,587
Speaker 3: Silver Fern shooter and one of a four strong leadership group,

847
00:44:59,907 --> 00:45:04,507
Speaker 3: Grace Weket is with us. Grace, let's address the elephant

848
00:45:04,547 --> 00:45:07,387
Speaker 3: in the room to start with challenging of time? Has

849
00:45:07,467 --> 00:45:12,027
Speaker 3: this been with Dame Noling Todua being stood down as

850
00:45:12,067 --> 00:45:12,707
Speaker 3: your head coach?

851
00:45:13,867 --> 00:45:16,947
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been very challenging. I think the words that

852
00:45:17,027 --> 00:45:19,227
Speaker 15: I've been using a lot the past few weeks has

853
00:45:19,267 --> 00:45:25,027
Speaker 15: been unprecedented that's obviously a challenge and it's uncharted orders

854
00:45:25,107 --> 00:45:29,187
Speaker 15: for only myself, but the entire staff and Niplonne's Villain

855
00:45:29,227 --> 00:45:32,267
Speaker 15: and the whole playing group. So we've really had to

856
00:45:32,467 --> 00:45:34,667
Speaker 15: compartmentalize and take things one day at a time and

857
00:45:35,387 --> 00:45:38,147
Speaker 15: focus from latask your hands, which is taking this sery

858
00:45:38,267 --> 00:45:38,547
Speaker 15: through it.

859
00:45:39,387 --> 00:45:41,107
Speaker 3: How was this explained to the players.

860
00:45:42,507 --> 00:45:45,547
Speaker 15: There's a lot of conversations that we've had with then

861
00:45:45,627 --> 00:45:49,627
Speaker 15: the playing group, communications from the Players Association along with

862
00:45:49,827 --> 00:45:53,027
Speaker 15: Bonnie Villains and I guess some player for them to

863
00:45:53,107 --> 00:45:55,467
Speaker 15: do more than others, but a lot of the team

864
00:45:55,467 --> 00:46:02,187
Speaker 15: messaging has been about Bonne Villain and the staffing group,

865
00:46:03,307 --> 00:46:05,547
Speaker 15: you know, as you mentioned in the media earlier, still

866
00:46:05,587 --> 00:46:08,627
Speaker 15: being a negotiation and trying to come to a resolution

867
00:46:08,787 --> 00:46:12,587
Speaker 15: and untold here able to you know, thought out their

868
00:46:13,427 --> 00:46:17,267
Speaker 15: quote unquote discute. No, he's not able to come into

869
00:46:17,307 --> 00:46:20,187
Speaker 15: the training environment and obviously they've got to complete with me.

870
00:46:20,267 --> 00:46:24,507
Speaker 15: And I'm sure more context than that, but yeah, that's

871
00:46:24,547 --> 00:46:26,507
Speaker 15: pretty much a crux of it, and for us, as

872
00:46:27,187 --> 00:46:29,587
Speaker 15: you know, in ways daring and it has been we've

873
00:46:29,627 --> 00:46:32,987
Speaker 15: had to really just band together and be able to

874
00:46:33,027 --> 00:46:35,027
Speaker 15: put down and say what we need to but come

875
00:46:35,107 --> 00:46:36,987
Speaker 15: together to playing group to get the job done.

876
00:46:37,827 --> 00:46:40,947
Speaker 3: How how was How is your relationship with Dane Nolan?

877
00:46:41,427 --> 00:46:41,627
Speaker 1: Yeah?

878
00:46:41,747 --> 00:46:44,667
Speaker 15: I have the utmost to know. She's a fantastic person,

879
00:46:44,987 --> 00:46:48,027
Speaker 15: fantastic coach and the years that I've been coached her

880
00:46:48,067 --> 00:46:51,147
Speaker 15: icure very lucky to have been led by her and

881
00:46:51,267 --> 00:46:53,427
Speaker 15: to have learnt off her, and we do have a

882
00:46:53,467 --> 00:46:57,707
Speaker 15: strong relationship. So it's obviously challenging to you know, be

883
00:46:57,787 --> 00:47:00,227
Speaker 15: in this space without her. I've never been in the

884
00:47:00,307 --> 00:47:03,667
Speaker 15: friends right Nold as my coach. So yeah, like I said,

885
00:47:03,707 --> 00:47:06,267
Speaker 15: we are unprecedented and obviously I think at the core

886
00:47:06,427 --> 00:47:09,507
Speaker 15: or there's you know, people who love playing net for

887
00:47:09,627 --> 00:47:11,307
Speaker 15: who want to be a part of netball and contrary

888
00:47:11,347 --> 00:47:13,547
Speaker 15: to the black streety is this environment and so I

889
00:47:13,627 --> 00:47:16,427
Speaker 15: guess for them to have turned in the way they

890
00:47:16,547 --> 00:47:20,227
Speaker 15: have is really challenging to you know, see the game

891
00:47:20,507 --> 00:47:24,307
Speaker 15: and the team and the people you care about, I

892
00:47:24,427 --> 00:47:28,947
Speaker 15: guess in the situation. So just navigating that as it comes.

893
00:47:29,267 --> 00:47:32,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, is there a difference of opinion within the playing

894
00:47:32,267 --> 00:47:32,867
Speaker 3: group about this?

895
00:47:34,867 --> 00:47:36,987
Speaker 15: I won't say show. I think what we have shared

896
00:47:37,987 --> 00:47:40,547
Speaker 15: you on and knowing that there's a job at hand

897
00:47:40,587 --> 00:47:43,027
Speaker 15: and then to get that done and there hasn't been

898
00:47:43,147 --> 00:47:46,627
Speaker 15: that much opportunity for us to speculate or to you know,

899
00:47:48,107 --> 00:47:52,267
Speaker 15: add to rumor for us what we've been, what's been

900
00:47:52,267 --> 00:47:55,907
Speaker 15: shaved of us, but enough for us to have a

901
00:47:56,107 --> 00:48:00,147
Speaker 15: united I guess point of view and going forward and

902
00:48:00,587 --> 00:48:02,427
Speaker 15: being united with one of our team values. And so

903
00:48:02,547 --> 00:48:05,587
Speaker 15: that's really guided us in terms of getting around all

904
00:48:05,627 --> 00:48:09,507
Speaker 15: the players in the group and ensuring that the people

905
00:48:09,547 --> 00:48:13,907
Speaker 15: you can't have in this face experiencing a typical sil

906
00:48:13,987 --> 00:48:16,227
Speaker 15: of friends environment as as standard as it can be

907
00:48:16,307 --> 00:48:19,147
Speaker 15: given the circumstances, but having a positive experience is have

908
00:48:19,227 --> 00:48:22,187
Speaker 15: as much confidence in their abilities and training under their

909
00:48:22,187 --> 00:48:24,667
Speaker 15: about to perform. And that's kind of a shady bee

910
00:48:24,747 --> 00:48:25,667
Speaker 15: we have this playing group.

911
00:48:26,307 --> 00:48:27,307
Speaker 3: Do you think she'll come back?

912
00:48:29,627 --> 00:48:30,227
Speaker 9: I can't say.

913
00:48:30,427 --> 00:48:36,307
Speaker 15: I the messaging has been that that kind of fits.

914
00:48:36,507 --> 00:48:38,707
Speaker 15: It's about my pay grade this she'll come back, and

915
00:48:38,787 --> 00:48:40,547
Speaker 15: I'm not sure that's much that we can do about that.

916
00:48:41,547 --> 00:48:42,347
Speaker 11: I would love to.

917
00:48:42,387 --> 00:48:46,867
Speaker 15: See Nol's back, and that's obviously a challenging situation, but

918
00:48:47,587 --> 00:48:49,147
Speaker 15: whether she'll come back or not, I'm not sure.

919
00:48:49,827 --> 00:48:52,067
Speaker 3: So how have you put this order one side and

920
00:48:52,387 --> 00:48:56,027
Speaker 3: prepared for three test matches to come against South Africa?

921
00:48:57,507 --> 00:49:00,907
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's not been easy, and it's massive kudos to

922
00:49:00,987 --> 00:49:03,747
Speaker 15: the playing group and the staff and support systems that

923
00:49:03,787 --> 00:49:06,867
Speaker 15: we have around us to be given us face space

924
00:49:07,027 --> 00:49:11,547
Speaker 15: to express how we're feeling and be candid and be

925
00:49:11,667 --> 00:49:17,227
Speaker 15: open about how challenging this situation has been and to

926
00:49:17,787 --> 00:49:20,907
Speaker 15: have that time and then be able to reset, and

927
00:49:21,387 --> 00:49:24,867
Speaker 15: I foss has been that ability to compartmentalize and put

928
00:49:24,907 --> 00:49:27,347
Speaker 15: that to a side given that we have a job

929
00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:30,107
Speaker 15: to do. We have some great coaches who have come

930
00:49:30,187 --> 00:49:32,387
Speaker 15: in to support this group, who have you known a

931
00:49:32,427 --> 00:49:35,787
Speaker 15: lot to be here to guide us, and we're very

932
00:49:35,827 --> 00:49:38,667
Speaker 15: grateful to Event and Leanna for taking one.

933
00:49:38,627 --> 00:49:39,307
Speaker 16: Opportunity to.

934
00:49:40,947 --> 00:49:43,947
Speaker 15: Take control of this team in the meantime and they've

935
00:49:43,947 --> 00:49:47,987
Speaker 15: been fantastic and understanding the delicacy of the situation and

936
00:49:49,587 --> 00:49:52,907
Speaker 15: wanting us to, you know, steel how you want a feel,

937
00:49:53,307 --> 00:49:56,587
Speaker 15: but also with the understand that we have to perform.

938
00:49:57,347 --> 00:50:00,427
Speaker 3: Yeah, that word compartmentalized is a great one, I'd imagine.

939
00:50:00,427 --> 00:50:01,827
Speaker 3: I don't know, but you must just be looking forward

940
00:50:01,867 --> 00:50:03,347
Speaker 3: to getting out there and playing netball, are you.

941
00:50:04,667 --> 00:50:04,867
Speaker 7: Yeah?

942
00:50:04,947 --> 00:50:06,987
Speaker 15: Absolutely, I think at the end of the day, that's

943
00:50:07,027 --> 00:50:08,827
Speaker 15: why we're all here. It's what we love doing. And

944
00:50:10,187 --> 00:50:12,347
Speaker 15: you know us players don't really want to get inso

945
00:50:12,427 --> 00:50:13,947
Speaker 15: much of the politics, probably just want to throw it

946
00:50:14,027 --> 00:50:17,507
Speaker 15: up and get out there. So that is the exciting part.

947
00:50:17,667 --> 00:50:21,067
Speaker 15: And it's been you know, a long time coming for me,

948
00:50:21,827 --> 00:50:24,227
Speaker 15: having been out for a wee while, and also for

949
00:50:24,747 --> 00:50:27,187
Speaker 15: a lot of these Gibby contents there, it's their first

950
00:50:27,227 --> 00:50:30,027
Speaker 15: time in this space and it's special and it's a privilege.

951
00:50:30,267 --> 00:50:31,707
Speaker 15: And so just to be able to take court as

952
00:50:31,707 --> 00:50:32,027
Speaker 15: a group.

953
00:50:33,547 --> 00:50:36,267
Speaker 3: I look at the shooters and no Amelia Ranny Canasio,

954
00:50:36,387 --> 00:50:39,347
Speaker 3: no Maa Wilson, Tiana Maturo, Amelia Warmsley's not on this team,

955
00:50:40,067 --> 00:50:43,147
Speaker 3: she's playing age group stuff. So the other shooters Martina Salmon,

956
00:50:43,227 --> 00:50:46,067
Speaker 3: Georgia Heaven and fielder Vui. How much more of a

957
00:50:46,147 --> 00:50:49,907
Speaker 3: leadership role will you play with less experience there in

958
00:50:49,947 --> 00:50:50,707
Speaker 3: the shooting circle.

959
00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:56,027
Speaker 15: Yeah, I definitely It's not lost on me the experience

960
00:50:56,467 --> 00:50:58,987
Speaker 15: in our group and the shooters and the gaps that

961
00:50:59,067 --> 00:51:01,787
Speaker 15: there are. But I see those gaps in experience a

962
00:51:02,107 --> 00:51:04,987
Speaker 15: huge opportunity for growth, not only for both players. That

963
00:51:05,067 --> 00:51:09,747
Speaker 15: for myself excited by the opportunity to you know, keeping

964
00:51:09,867 --> 00:51:12,307
Speaker 15: that leaderships grace more. And I really believe that my

965
00:51:12,427 --> 00:51:14,707
Speaker 15: job hasn't changed. I think I can lead by just

966
00:51:15,587 --> 00:51:18,187
Speaker 15: shooting well and being available and using my voice, and

967
00:51:18,267 --> 00:51:21,747
Speaker 15: so it's really exciting for this group and to have

968
00:51:22,107 --> 00:51:25,307
Speaker 15: new blood and fresh faces who are hungry and eager,

969
00:51:26,267 --> 00:51:29,627
Speaker 15: and for me individual excited to see how they shift

970
00:51:29,787 --> 00:51:32,147
Speaker 15: and what we're able to do. It's just really really

971
00:51:32,227 --> 00:51:35,427
Speaker 15: fantastic players, so much to give and amazing combinations. So

972
00:51:35,507 --> 00:51:37,627
Speaker 15: seeing them I training the fleet has been fantastic And

973
00:51:37,987 --> 00:51:39,547
Speaker 15: I can't like to see all the girls take court

974
00:51:40,027 --> 00:51:40,267
Speaker 15: and you.

975
00:51:40,467 --> 00:51:43,307
Speaker 3: Karen Berger, Kelly Jackson, and Kate hefferen and are all

976
00:51:43,547 --> 00:51:47,147
Speaker 3: co captains, So how will that work? How has that

977
00:51:47,307 --> 00:51:48,267
Speaker 3: been working this week?

978
00:51:49,707 --> 00:51:52,347
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's been fantastic. I think being able to lean

979
00:51:52,427 --> 00:51:56,707
Speaker 15: on each other, especially players being across different parts of

980
00:51:56,787 --> 00:52:00,427
Speaker 15: the court and having different levels of captives experience has

981
00:52:00,467 --> 00:52:03,547
Speaker 15: been great for me intensive learning off them and understanding

982
00:52:04,027 --> 00:52:05,747
Speaker 15: what kind of captain I want to be and where

983
00:52:05,787 --> 00:52:08,307
Speaker 15: I see my are flitting, and but also just sharing

984
00:52:08,347 --> 00:52:12,347
Speaker 15: that load of leadership, especially given the current space of

985
00:52:12,427 --> 00:52:14,787
Speaker 15: the team at the moment, So just being able to

986
00:52:14,907 --> 00:52:18,187
Speaker 15: share the pressure and share, lean on each other a

987
00:52:18,267 --> 00:52:20,827
Speaker 15: bit more and be a lot for one person's take.

988
00:52:20,787 --> 00:52:21,227
Speaker 17: At the moment.

989
00:52:21,347 --> 00:52:24,187
Speaker 15: So I think it's fantastic to have three others around

990
00:52:24,347 --> 00:52:27,267
Speaker 15: me and like wise me be able to support the

991
00:52:27,387 --> 00:52:29,147
Speaker 15: others in all parts of the job.

992
00:52:29,507 --> 00:52:31,267
Speaker 3: And it's been a while since the Silver Ferns have

993
00:52:31,347 --> 00:52:33,667
Speaker 3: played South Africa, so have you managed to get a

994
00:52:33,707 --> 00:52:36,267
Speaker 3: gauge on the threats that they'll pose to you across

995
00:52:36,307 --> 00:52:36,987
Speaker 3: these three games?

996
00:52:37,907 --> 00:52:40,347
Speaker 15: Yeah? Absolutely, spend a lot of time in camp, you know,

997
00:52:40,627 --> 00:52:43,507
Speaker 15: studying video and looking at what we're coming up against

998
00:52:43,547 --> 00:52:46,427
Speaker 15: and preparing the game plans and the like, and it's

999
00:52:46,547 --> 00:52:50,467
Speaker 15: exciting abortunity. They're a very strong side, very athletic, they

1000
00:52:50,627 --> 00:52:52,707
Speaker 15: have a lot of firepower and both ends of the

1001
00:52:52,787 --> 00:52:56,587
Speaker 15: court lots of hungry up and coming players. So it's

1002
00:52:56,587 --> 00:53:00,067
Speaker 15: a really good opportunity to test ourselves against them and

1003
00:53:01,027 --> 00:53:04,227
Speaker 15: really see where we're at in national basnight. It's been

1004
00:53:04,267 --> 00:53:07,027
Speaker 15: a long time since you've played them, and yeah, there's

1005
00:53:07,027 --> 00:53:09,027
Speaker 15: an an element of unknown, but I guess it's exciting

1006
00:53:09,067 --> 00:53:10,387
Speaker 15: for us to really see the measure up.

1007
00:53:10,707 --> 00:53:13,307
Speaker 3: And of course your presence here as a result of

1008
00:53:13,387 --> 00:53:16,187
Speaker 3: the change in eligibility rules and I know that's now

1009
00:53:16,467 --> 00:53:19,827
Speaker 3: sort of done and dusted, and thank goodness that that

1010
00:53:20,227 --> 00:53:22,587
Speaker 3: it's finally come to fruition. But when you reflect back

1011
00:53:22,627 --> 00:53:25,907
Speaker 3: on that time now, Grace, how do you reflect upon it?

1012
00:53:27,507 --> 00:53:28,867
Speaker 15: Yeah, it was a bit of a real wind. I

1013
00:53:28,907 --> 00:53:31,067
Speaker 15: guess it's time last share, knowing that I would be

1014
00:53:31,107 --> 00:53:33,587
Speaker 15: able to see out there international season, but that would

1015
00:53:33,627 --> 00:53:36,787
Speaker 15: be the end of it for who ever knows. When

1016
00:53:37,587 --> 00:53:40,627
Speaker 15: it was hard to think about the future and what

1017
00:53:40,707 --> 00:53:42,547
Speaker 15: that could look like to me and didn't know when

1018
00:53:42,587 --> 00:53:44,107
Speaker 15: I'd be able to put the drifts back on again.

1019
00:53:44,187 --> 00:53:46,027
Speaker 15: So I think the fast forwards now and be in

1020
00:53:46,067 --> 00:53:48,907
Speaker 15: this place as I am very grateful for and the

1021
00:53:48,947 --> 00:53:51,067
Speaker 15: way that the starts have aligned, and not only for myself,

1022
00:53:51,107 --> 00:53:52,747
Speaker 15: with the other players who are also able to take

1023
00:53:52,787 --> 00:53:55,387
Speaker 15: on the opportunity to play overseas. I think it's fantastic

1024
00:53:55,467 --> 00:53:58,387
Speaker 15: and I've been saying that I do believe it could

1025
00:53:58,387 --> 00:54:01,507
Speaker 15: win when and I really do mean that, both for

1026
00:54:01,627 --> 00:54:05,147
Speaker 15: the players who are able to challenge themselves and grow

1027
00:54:05,187 --> 00:54:07,707
Speaker 15: at individuals with all, both for the game in New

1028
00:54:07,787 --> 00:54:11,987
Speaker 15: Zealand and the opportunity that it opens up for pathways

1029
00:54:12,027 --> 00:54:16,387
Speaker 15: to younger players and opportunities to get up an aim dispremiership.

1030
00:54:16,467 --> 00:54:18,987
Speaker 15: So it's exciting and I'd be very grateful to be

1031
00:54:19,067 --> 00:54:22,267
Speaker 15: back here in the team that I love, with the

1032
00:54:22,347 --> 00:54:24,267
Speaker 15: girls that I've grown up from, a hit fullworth and

1033
00:54:24,307 --> 00:54:25,707
Speaker 15: I'm just so happy to be taking court worth.

1034
00:54:25,947 --> 00:54:28,627
Speaker 3: It'd be great to be talking about some nepple on

1035
00:54:28,747 --> 00:54:30,667
Speaker 3: the court. Grace, thanks for taking the time. All the

1036
00:54:30,747 --> 00:54:33,027
Speaker 3: best in this three game series against South Africa.

1037
00:54:33,187 --> 00:54:33,907
Speaker 15: Yeah, thank you so much.

1038
00:54:33,987 --> 00:54:36,387
Speaker 3: No, thank you, Grace. Grace wiki there out of the

1039
00:54:36,507 --> 00:54:39,467
Speaker 3: Silver Ferns seven forty Tonight, seven forty Wednesday, seven forty

1040
00:54:39,547 --> 00:54:43,267
Speaker 3: next Sunday. All those games incidentally are live on Gold

1041
00:54:43,307 --> 00:54:46,267
Speaker 3: Sport and iHeartRadio, so you can tune in and hear

1042
00:54:46,307 --> 00:54:49,227
Speaker 3: what happens on the court. Look, I mean clearly, this

1043
00:54:49,347 --> 00:54:53,307
Speaker 3: has been hugely disruptive to the players and I'd imagine

1044
00:54:53,307 --> 00:54:55,787
Speaker 3: there would be divided opinion in the team over this

1045
00:54:56,467 --> 00:54:59,507
Speaker 3: has to be and there's no clarity that beyond this series.

1046
00:55:00,347 --> 00:55:03,507
Speaker 3: The Silver Ferns, after this three game series against South Africa,

1047
00:55:03,547 --> 00:55:06,827
Speaker 3: played the Constellation Cup four Tests against Australia next month

1048
00:55:06,867 --> 00:55:10,027
Speaker 3: to home to away. Is Dame Nolinge Toto. We're going

1049
00:55:10,107 --> 00:55:14,307
Speaker 3: to be back for those games. If not, what happens.

1050
00:55:15,907 --> 00:55:18,907
Speaker 3: The reason she's not there for these games is because

1051
00:55:18,987 --> 00:55:23,547
Speaker 3: of this ongoing investigation and the fact that as I

1052
00:55:23,707 --> 00:55:28,507
Speaker 3: understand it. Anyway, these issues, whatever they were, were raised

1053
00:55:28,507 --> 00:55:31,907
Speaker 3: a long time ago and it's only now only now

1054
00:55:32,827 --> 00:55:36,747
Speaker 3: that they have seen fit to open this investigation. And

1055
00:55:36,827 --> 00:55:39,947
Speaker 3: that's got so close to this tiny Jerson series that

1056
00:55:39,987 --> 00:55:45,187
Speaker 3: they've had to bring an Evon Yvette rather McCausland jury

1057
00:55:46,387 --> 00:55:48,347
Speaker 3: to be coach. And she said, look after the third game,

1058
00:55:48,387 --> 00:55:48,987
Speaker 3: I'm going back.

1059
00:55:48,907 --> 00:55:49,387
Speaker 11: To my job.

1060
00:55:49,427 --> 00:55:52,707
Speaker 3: I'm going back to my teaching job. So she doesn't

1061
00:55:52,707 --> 00:55:55,827
Speaker 3: want the job full time. It's just a mess, isn't

1062
00:55:55,867 --> 00:55:57,467
Speaker 3: it just an absolute mess?

1063
00:55:59,427 --> 00:55:59,587
Speaker 14: Look?

1064
00:55:59,667 --> 00:56:02,067
Speaker 3: New Zealandship beat South Africa. We're a better netball team

1065
00:56:02,107 --> 00:56:04,387
Speaker 3: than they are. And thankfully we're going to talk about

1066
00:56:04,427 --> 00:56:06,347
Speaker 3: some on court stuff. But you don't envy the play

1067
00:56:06,387 --> 00:56:10,267
Speaker 3: a group in all of this. And what about netball fans?

1068
00:56:10,347 --> 00:56:13,907
Speaker 3: Text here, Gray says she doesn't want to get into

1069
00:56:13,907 --> 00:56:15,587
Speaker 3: the politics of it. That's great, but this is all

1070
00:56:15,627 --> 00:56:20,587
Speaker 3: the sport has become now own goal after own goal, eligibility,

1071
00:56:20,787 --> 00:56:25,907
Speaker 3: TV deals, alleged player revolts, zero transparency. Explain all of

1072
00:56:25,947 --> 00:56:27,307
Speaker 3: that to a ten year old fan. It's a very

1073
00:56:27,307 --> 00:56:35,147
Speaker 3: good point. And at some point you have to look

1074
00:56:35,187 --> 00:56:38,747
Speaker 3: at the board and at the CEO, who I must

1075
00:56:38,787 --> 00:56:41,707
Speaker 3: say has been spectacularly absent while this is all played out.

1076
00:56:42,427 --> 00:56:46,067
Speaker 3: I get the fact that people take leave, but when

1077
00:56:46,347 --> 00:56:50,547
Speaker 3: the sport is at crisis point, the most tumultuous time

1078
00:56:50,987 --> 00:56:55,307
Speaker 3: in its history, you call that off. You at least

1079
00:56:55,387 --> 00:57:01,987
Speaker 3: provide visibility. Jenny Wiley hasn't done that good a bevan.

1080
00:57:03,787 --> 00:57:06,227
Speaker 9: Okyonny, you just took the word straight out of my

1081
00:57:06,667 --> 00:57:11,147
Speaker 9: it's just saying Andy she it's a disgrace. She has

1082
00:57:11,227 --> 00:57:13,347
Speaker 9: to I don't know what's going on. When Ray I

1083
00:57:13,387 --> 00:57:16,267
Speaker 9: heard him last week, he was trying to like he

1084
00:57:16,467 --> 00:57:18,947
Speaker 9: was like trying to skate around the issues. You wouldn't

1085
00:57:18,987 --> 00:57:21,387
Speaker 9: give a straight answer. It's just it's disgraceful. When she

1086
00:57:21,587 --> 00:57:24,827
Speaker 9: pulled New Zealand netball teams out of the Angel, you know,

1087
00:57:24,907 --> 00:57:28,547
Speaker 9: the championship in Australia and then and decided, you know,

1088
00:57:28,587 --> 00:57:31,227
Speaker 9: we're going to go at our own. Then everybody's leaving

1089
00:57:31,707 --> 00:57:34,187
Speaker 9: and then now this what is going on. If this

1090
00:57:34,307 --> 00:57:37,107
Speaker 9: happened in Australia, they'd be like they'd be you know,

1091
00:57:37,267 --> 00:57:38,507
Speaker 9: there's been outcry.

1092
00:57:39,627 --> 00:57:42,627
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred percent of them, and I think that

1093
00:57:42,787 --> 00:57:45,707
Speaker 3: has to happen now. There has to be an examination

1094
00:57:45,827 --> 00:57:48,787
Speaker 3: of the leadership or lack of during this time, not

1095
00:57:48,947 --> 00:57:50,707
Speaker 3: just for this, but there was the like I say,

1096
00:57:50,747 --> 00:57:53,307
Speaker 3: the TV deal is another one, as you say, the

1097
00:57:53,507 --> 00:57:57,187
Speaker 3: going back, the the pulling out of the of the

1098
00:57:57,347 --> 00:58:01,587
Speaker 3: much stronger transcasment competition, the whole eligibility thing, which thankfully

1099
00:58:01,787 --> 00:58:04,827
Speaker 3: was sorted, but it seemed to take an inordinate amount

1100
00:58:04,827 --> 00:58:07,547
Speaker 3: of time to get sorted. It just has been a

1101
00:58:07,667 --> 00:58:10,027
Speaker 3: really forgettable time.

1102
00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:19,587
Speaker 9: And do you remember that in our coach it's got

1103
00:58:19,707 --> 00:58:20,707
Speaker 9: to be an investigation.

1104
00:58:22,107 --> 00:58:25,707
Speaker 3: I do, I do, yes, I remember that that. Well,

1105
00:58:25,747 --> 00:58:27,587
Speaker 3: is it Jeff TV? I can't remember that somebody?

1106
00:58:27,827 --> 00:58:33,867
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I an investigation. He was so he was

1107
00:58:33,947 --> 00:58:35,787
Speaker 9: so curious about I think I don't know what it was,

1108
00:58:35,867 --> 00:58:39,027
Speaker 9: some bunker thing, but yeah, look, I mean what's going on.

1109
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:42,707
Speaker 9: I have no idea. It's just disgraceful. And I think

1110
00:58:42,827 --> 00:58:46,827
Speaker 9: that personally myself, if I was Noline, I would I

1111
00:58:46,907 --> 00:58:50,107
Speaker 9: would just come out, well, I know she's probably doing

1112
00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:52,067
Speaker 9: the right thing. But if I was here, I wouldn't

1113
00:58:52,067 --> 00:58:54,107
Speaker 9: go back to them. I just said, look, I've had

1114
00:58:54,227 --> 00:58:55,867
Speaker 9: enough you guys treated me this way.

1115
00:58:56,787 --> 00:59:00,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think she's probably you know, her number

1116
00:59:00,267 --> 00:59:02,867
Speaker 3: will be in the in the phone of of other

1117
00:59:02,947 --> 00:59:06,587
Speaker 3: netball franchises around the world, both domestic and international. What

1118
00:59:06,747 --> 00:59:07,867
Speaker 3: Dame Nolen as their coach?

1119
00:59:08,787 --> 00:59:10,587
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, And I think that they're going to be

1120
00:59:10,667 --> 00:59:13,507
Speaker 9: vulnerable too, like they've set themselves up South Africa are

1121
00:59:13,507 --> 00:59:15,747
Speaker 9: probably going to become an unlight sharks at the water

1122
00:59:15,827 --> 00:59:21,907
Speaker 9: sniff and blood and how much is that gonna compound?

1123
00:59:22,307 --> 00:59:26,867
Speaker 9: You know, if they lose and and comprehensively, it's all

1124
00:59:26,987 --> 00:59:29,107
Speaker 9: going to be about what's happened with Nolan and it's

1125
00:59:29,187 --> 00:59:32,547
Speaker 9: just it's just such to set themselves up for such

1126
00:59:32,627 --> 00:59:35,827
Speaker 9: a failure. I hope they don't, but that's they've done it.

1127
00:59:35,907 --> 00:59:38,667
Speaker 9: They've they've cut off their noses despite their faces.

1128
00:59:39,387 --> 00:59:41,787
Speaker 3: Good man, bevn good points, well made, as always buy

1129
00:59:41,827 --> 00:59:44,787
Speaker 3: you thanks mate. The playing group caused the mess? Stop harping,

1130
00:59:45,107 --> 00:59:48,347
Speaker 3: pinety harping. I don't know what that means. What am

1131
00:59:48,387 --> 00:59:51,027
Speaker 3: I harping about the playing group? Great of the mess?

1132
00:59:51,067 --> 00:59:54,427
Speaker 3: I guess what you mean is that I was giving

1133
00:59:54,507 --> 00:59:57,547
Speaker 3: sympathy to the playing group. I don't know whether the

1134
00:59:57,787 --> 01:00:01,787
Speaker 3: entire blame group has caused the situation. I'm reasonably sure

1135
01:00:01,867 --> 01:00:07,267
Speaker 3: it wasn't a universal player revolt against Dame Nolen. I

1136
01:00:07,347 --> 01:00:09,747
Speaker 3: think those in the team like Grace Wicki, who knows

1137
01:00:09,947 --> 01:00:13,827
Speaker 3: only a silver fern's environment with Dan Nolin as her coach,

1138
01:00:14,067 --> 01:00:17,427
Speaker 3: will be unsettled by this and probably have to choose

1139
01:00:17,467 --> 01:00:19,827
Speaker 3: their words carefully. But I thought Grace wiki was quite open. Actually,

1140
01:00:20,347 --> 01:00:23,587
Speaker 3: she's become a pretty good spokesperson for Neple.

1141
01:00:24,187 --> 01:00:24,427
Speaker 2: Schari.

1142
01:00:24,667 --> 01:00:26,227
Speaker 9: Hi, Hello.

1143
01:00:28,187 --> 01:00:30,827
Speaker 5: I'm a volunteer who goes to who's been going to

1144
01:00:30,907 --> 01:00:33,107
Speaker 5: Nepple for a very very long time, and I go

1145
01:00:33,267 --> 01:00:36,867
Speaker 5: there to coach kids to help out any way I can,

1146
01:00:37,067 --> 01:00:40,467
Speaker 5: and I just think of those kids coming through. I mean,

1147
01:00:40,827 --> 01:00:42,827
Speaker 5: how do you explain that to a group of kids

1148
01:00:43,627 --> 01:00:46,507
Speaker 5: of what I think that I find. I find Netble,

1149
01:00:46,627 --> 01:00:51,547
Speaker 5: New Zealand it's absolutely disgusting what's happened I found. I

1150
01:00:51,707 --> 01:00:55,507
Speaker 5: also think that they have done a disservice to Dame

1151
01:00:55,587 --> 01:00:59,027
Speaker 5: Nole in Totoa and her mother. I'm sorry, but they have.

1152
01:00:59,947 --> 01:01:02,427
Speaker 5: And I just sit back and think, if you don't

1153
01:01:02,627 --> 01:01:06,227
Speaker 5: understand our sport to us who are out there, if

1154
01:01:06,347 --> 01:01:09,507
Speaker 5: every weekend and that rain whatever, then don't be on

1155
01:01:09,627 --> 01:01:13,107
Speaker 5: the board, Get off the board and don't be there

1156
01:01:13,587 --> 01:01:17,067
Speaker 5: because this is a shambles. This should never have happened.

1157
01:01:17,427 --> 01:01:20,107
Speaker 5: And you know I said here and I saw it

1158
01:01:20,187 --> 01:01:22,787
Speaker 5: on CNN News or how the hell did it get

1159
01:01:22,827 --> 01:01:27,067
Speaker 5: on there? And I'm like wow, And that's how important

1160
01:01:27,147 --> 01:01:30,867
Speaker 5: that lady is recognized around the world. And we have

1161
01:01:31,067 --> 01:01:34,107
Speaker 5: done a disservice to her. Netble New Zealand has done

1162
01:01:34,147 --> 01:01:37,427
Speaker 5: a disservice to her. They have done a disservice to

1163
01:01:37,587 --> 01:01:41,267
Speaker 5: our Netble community. And they need to front up and

1164
01:01:41,387 --> 01:01:44,627
Speaker 5: they need to get this sorted. We lose her she goes,

1165
01:01:44,947 --> 01:01:47,347
Speaker 5: it is their fault and so should all their jobs.

1166
01:01:47,707 --> 01:01:50,347
Speaker 5: And that's how I feel. I am so strong about it.

1167
01:01:51,067 --> 01:01:56,107
Speaker 3: I'm pleased you've rungxury, You've articulated yourself brilliantly and clearly.

1168
01:01:56,187 --> 01:01:57,987
Speaker 3: Your heart's in the game. If you volunteer for the

1169
01:01:58,027 --> 01:02:00,427
Speaker 3: game and have done for many years and you see

1170
01:02:01,027 --> 01:02:03,307
Speaker 3: the good that the sport does at the grassroots level,

1171
01:02:03,867 --> 01:02:07,227
Speaker 3: then your right to feel that way, right to feel

1172
01:02:07,267 --> 01:02:09,827
Speaker 3: that way. The thing is about a ten year old

1173
01:02:10,507 --> 01:02:12,187
Speaker 3: fan of netple. They want to come along and wash

1174
01:02:12,227 --> 01:02:16,307
Speaker 3: the silver ferns. They don't really, you know, grasp what's

1175
01:02:16,347 --> 01:02:19,067
Speaker 3: happened here. Some of them will probably you know, turn

1176
01:02:19,147 --> 01:02:22,427
Speaker 3: up and ask where Dame nor Lena is. It's actually

1177
01:02:22,467 --> 01:02:25,387
Speaker 3: a good question Riccardo.

1178
01:02:25,547 --> 01:02:28,667
Speaker 17: Hello, are you making here me?

1179
01:02:28,707 --> 01:02:28,947
Speaker 14: Aka?

1180
01:02:29,387 --> 01:02:30,787
Speaker 3: I can Are you backing your truck?

1181
01:02:32,747 --> 01:02:32,947
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1182
01:02:32,947 --> 01:02:37,307
Speaker 17: I am actually yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, I know embarrassing

1183
01:02:37,667 --> 01:02:42,667
Speaker 17: hey yeah no no, no, no name nor Leans. Such

1184
01:02:42,707 --> 01:02:46,547
Speaker 17: as the goodwill that she's she has provided for New

1185
01:02:46,667 --> 01:02:49,947
Speaker 17: Zealand over the X amount of years, her reputation, her

1186
01:02:50,027 --> 01:02:55,227
Speaker 17: manna and whatnot. It's it's like overnight New Zealand Netble

1187
01:02:56,027 --> 01:02:58,707
Speaker 17: has tried to tarnish it. It's it's it's very difficult

1188
01:02:58,747 --> 01:03:00,347
Speaker 17: for her to come back, to be quite honest, in

1189
01:03:00,427 --> 01:03:03,587
Speaker 17: terms of how she's been treated. I really feel sorry

1190
01:03:03,627 --> 01:03:06,307
Speaker 17: for the up and comers, for the for the girl

1191
01:03:07,187 --> 01:03:10,227
Speaker 17: that are coming through the system and having to you know,

1192
01:03:10,547 --> 01:03:13,267
Speaker 17: obviously hear about these sort of things through social media,

1193
01:03:13,307 --> 01:03:16,187
Speaker 17: through the news outlets and whatnot. It doesn't do anything

1194
01:03:16,427 --> 01:03:19,267
Speaker 17: for the game other than destroy the up and comers

1195
01:03:19,307 --> 01:03:19,987
Speaker 17: that are coming through.

1196
01:03:20,227 --> 01:03:20,867
Speaker 12: I was at the.

1197
01:03:22,467 --> 01:03:27,187
Speaker 17: The Auckland Finals Championship Finals, and I watched Howick Howard

1198
01:03:27,267 --> 01:03:31,587
Speaker 17: Girls or Howard College versus Mags an unbelievable spectacle and

1199
01:03:31,707 --> 01:03:33,547
Speaker 17: the and the and the amount of talent in that

1200
01:03:33,707 --> 01:03:36,747
Speaker 17: and on that court was amazing, and I just feel like,

1201
01:03:37,187 --> 01:03:39,947
Speaker 17: hopefully they've got a pathway forward. But they need to

1202
01:03:39,987 --> 01:03:43,187
Speaker 17: sort out there the like you said, the board, whoever's

1203
01:03:43,187 --> 01:03:46,027
Speaker 17: the CEO of New Zealand Network, it's gone a well,

1204
01:03:46,307 --> 01:03:49,867
Speaker 17: you know, why isn't that person taking ownership and confronting

1205
01:03:50,267 --> 01:03:53,707
Speaker 17: what's going on? Everyone just said is just sort of

1206
01:03:53,827 --> 01:03:56,467
Speaker 17: kept in limbo in terms of what's going on here.

1207
01:03:56,587 --> 01:04:00,547
Speaker 17: And for me, I'd rather be just come out straight

1208
01:04:00,587 --> 01:04:03,467
Speaker 17: away and just say, look, see SE's brogering off, you know,

1209
01:04:03,907 --> 01:04:06,227
Speaker 17: and and the egg and their face for the New Zealand,

1210
01:04:06,467 --> 01:04:10,227
Speaker 17: for borderom and whatnot. Because they've treated her really unfairly.

1211
01:04:10,747 --> 01:04:12,907
Speaker 3: No one would blame her Ricardo if she did. No

1212
01:04:12,987 --> 01:04:14,787
Speaker 3: one would blame her if she did. Even if they

1213
01:04:15,147 --> 01:04:17,507
Speaker 3: come to the end of this investigation whatever that means

1214
01:04:17,707 --> 01:04:20,307
Speaker 3: and say okay, hey, Dame Nolean, you've been cleared, come

1215
01:04:20,387 --> 01:04:23,067
Speaker 3: back in. It should be quite within her rights to say,

1216
01:04:23,107 --> 01:04:25,547
Speaker 3: you know what, I've had another think about this and

1217
01:04:25,947 --> 01:04:28,227
Speaker 3: and now I'm gonna I'm going to do something else.

1218
01:04:30,987 --> 01:04:32,947
Speaker 17: Hundred percent because we left the number as well as

1219
01:04:32,987 --> 01:04:35,467
Speaker 17: you know, you know, the public, we don't know what's

1220
01:04:35,507 --> 01:04:37,307
Speaker 17: going on, and we really feel for it because she's

1221
01:04:37,307 --> 01:04:39,947
Speaker 17: got a lot of manner she may not have got

1222
01:04:39,987 --> 01:04:42,347
Speaker 17: the results in terms of Australia, but you know we were,

1223
01:04:42,587 --> 01:04:44,907
Speaker 17: we were right on the cusp for of getting the

1224
01:04:44,947 --> 01:04:48,027
Speaker 17: systems right. It reminds me of sort of when they

1225
01:04:48,067 --> 01:04:50,307
Speaker 17: say driving Cleary. I don't know whether I know the

1226
01:04:50,347 --> 01:04:53,067
Speaker 17: analogy of obviously comparing it to the Warriors, you know,

1227
01:04:53,587 --> 01:04:56,267
Speaker 17: and then in local tem to the Warriors. They haven't

1228
01:04:56,267 --> 01:04:59,427
Speaker 17: made a Grand Final since, you know, so she was

1229
01:04:59,467 --> 01:05:01,947
Speaker 17: on a good thing, Dame Nolen and then the fact

1230
01:05:01,987 --> 01:05:05,067
Speaker 17: that they've actually destroyed it overnight. It's just yeah, it's

1231
01:05:05,107 --> 01:05:06,987
Speaker 17: just disgusting in terms of how she's been treated.

1232
01:05:07,027 --> 01:05:09,787
Speaker 3: That'sel No, thanks Ricardo, I mean. And with Australia. We

1233
01:05:09,867 --> 01:05:13,267
Speaker 3: beat Australia three tests to one last year. We won

1234
01:05:13,547 --> 01:05:17,227
Speaker 3: three of the four Constellation Cup tests in October of

1235
01:05:17,307 --> 01:05:19,667
Speaker 3: last year we won the first three. It was only

1236
01:05:19,707 --> 01:05:22,947
Speaker 3: the fourth one when the series was sewn up then

1237
01:05:22,987 --> 01:05:28,467
Speaker 3: Australia got one over US one thirty one. Thanks for

1238
01:05:28,507 --> 01:05:30,827
Speaker 3: all your causing correspondence. We'll take a break, come back,

1239
01:05:31,067 --> 01:05:34,347
Speaker 3: get you inside. The Otago rugby team ran Furley shield

1240
01:05:34,467 --> 01:05:37,107
Speaker 3: holders their head coach Mark Brown after.

1241
01:05:37,027 --> 01:05:40,667
Speaker 1: This is the biggest seams in sports are on Weekend

1242
01:05:40,747 --> 01:05:45,027
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason pain and GJ gubnomes New Zealand's most

1243
01:05:45,067 --> 01:05:45,987
Speaker 1: trusted home builder.

1244
01:05:46,107 --> 01:05:48,307
Speaker 2: News Talks be News Talks.

1245
01:05:48,067 --> 01:05:50,467
Speaker 3: There one thirty three. What a year it's been for

1246
01:05:50,547 --> 01:05:53,787
Speaker 3: the ran Furley Shield. Taranaki started twenty twenty five with

1247
01:05:53,947 --> 01:05:57,867
Speaker 3: it fended off King Country, Thames Valley and Northland before

1248
01:05:57,907 --> 01:05:59,427
Speaker 3: white Cuttal came to New Plymouth.

1249
01:05:59,947 --> 01:06:02,747
Speaker 18: Beg it comes Ti Kurn straying, he gets in it.

1250
01:06:02,827 --> 01:06:07,787
Speaker 18: A judge maybe says that's all over. I Cano have

1251
01:06:08,067 --> 01:06:10,107
Speaker 18: won the Ranfilly Shell.

1252
01:06:10,707 --> 01:06:13,547
Speaker 3: Their first defense was against Southland eight days later.

1253
01:06:13,867 --> 01:06:20,987
Speaker 18: There that's fots dead Southland epis that's going south.

1254
01:06:21,427 --> 01:06:26,107
Speaker 1: They have done the impossible, They have done the unthinkable.

1255
01:06:26,347 --> 01:06:28,867
Speaker 3: The Stags in turn put it up against Canterbury the

1256
01:06:28,907 --> 01:06:29,707
Speaker 3: following weekend.

1257
01:06:30,067 --> 01:06:36,107
Speaker 19: Emphatic Channerbury have won the ran Philly Shield fifty four

1258
01:06:36,307 --> 01:06:40,747
Speaker 19: points to fourteen. Channerbury win the Ranfilly Shield for the

1259
01:06:40,947 --> 01:06:46,107
Speaker 19: seventeenth time for most of any province in the extraordinary

1260
01:06:46,187 --> 01:06:50,987
Speaker 19: life of the Log of Wood, while Southern's equal the

1261
01:06:51,147 --> 01:06:56,267
Speaker 19: record for the shortest tenure ever that is just six days.

1262
01:06:56,227 --> 01:06:59,227
Speaker 3: And Canary themselves very nearly lost at the following week

1263
01:06:59,347 --> 01:07:02,387
Speaker 3: trailing Tasman after the final hooter numbers.

1264
01:07:02,107 --> 01:07:03,027
Speaker 9: To the lift.

1265
01:07:04,907 --> 01:07:07,467
Speaker 1: Canterbury on to the shell.

1266
01:07:08,147 --> 01:07:12,907
Speaker 6: George Bell writes his nighbor to Red Philly Shield folklore.

1267
01:07:13,387 --> 01:07:17,547
Speaker 6: He flew it from Wellington for sporting and he scores

1268
01:07:17,667 --> 01:07:20,507
Speaker 6: the bats winner in the eighty fourth minutes.

1269
01:07:20,707 --> 01:07:23,547
Speaker 3: But as that, as it turned out, that only extended

1270
01:07:23,547 --> 01:07:24,787
Speaker 3: their tenure by one week.

1271
01:07:25,427 --> 01:07:26,387
Speaker 5: Back to Feller.

1272
01:07:27,067 --> 01:07:29,107
Speaker 18: Otago have done it.

1273
01:07:30,827 --> 01:07:35,547
Speaker 4: Otago they win the Red Philly Shield for the eighth

1274
01:07:35,747 --> 01:07:36,867
Speaker 4: time of their history.

1275
01:07:37,067 --> 01:07:40,307
Speaker 3: Here's Nita ran Philly Shield headed forward Dunedin after Otago's

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01:07:40,347 --> 01:07:42,987
Speaker 3: come from behind thirty eight thirty six win over Canterbury

1277
01:07:43,187 --> 01:07:46,227
Speaker 3: in christ Church yesterday, up against a team that was

1278
01:07:46,307 --> 01:07:49,267
Speaker 3: seven from seven and ahead by fifteen points with twenty

1279
01:07:49,307 --> 01:07:51,827
Speaker 3: five minutes to go. The Logger waters now changed hands

1280
01:07:51,867 --> 01:07:54,787
Speaker 3: four times this season, the first time that has happened

1281
01:07:55,147 --> 01:07:59,587
Speaker 3: since nineteen fifty. Otago head coach is Mark Brown. How's

1282
01:07:59,627 --> 01:08:00,147
Speaker 3: your night, mate?

1283
01:08:01,107 --> 01:08:04,547
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was a good night, thanks Fanny. We sat

1284
01:08:04,587 --> 01:08:06,747
Speaker 7: at the ground for quite a while and then yeah

1285
01:08:06,787 --> 01:08:09,907
Speaker 7: went back to the hotel starting to ge there just

1286
01:08:10,267 --> 01:08:11,467
Speaker 7: yeah say at the moment.

1287
01:08:11,347 --> 01:08:13,787
Speaker 3: Really, I bet, I bet who looked after the shield

1288
01:08:13,867 --> 01:08:15,947
Speaker 3: last night? Who was put in charge of it on

1289
01:08:16,107 --> 01:08:17,187
Speaker 3: overnight duty.

1290
01:08:17,827 --> 01:08:20,627
Speaker 7: A massive responsibility, so we gave it to We got

1291
01:08:20,627 --> 01:08:23,867
Speaker 7: it to Charles Elton who it's one of our sort

1292
01:08:23,907 --> 01:08:27,067
Speaker 7: of more experienced members of the team. But he's not

1293
01:08:27,147 --> 01:08:29,747
Speaker 7: actually any contract with squad. He's in his injured cover.

1294
01:08:29,987 --> 01:08:33,387
Speaker 7: So very responsible man to have that have those duties.

1295
01:08:33,667 --> 01:08:36,627
Speaker 3: Excellent stuff. Has anyone in your team ever won? It

1296
01:08:36,667 --> 01:08:40,027
Speaker 3: was anyone on the team when when you last had it, Well.

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01:08:40,107 --> 01:08:42,027
Speaker 7: You've got me there. I'm not too sure to be fair,

1298
01:08:42,147 --> 01:08:45,987
Speaker 7: I know, Jonah, I think there's a couple potentially who

1299
01:08:46,547 --> 01:08:48,547
Speaker 7: who have had a shield rang with Otaga.

1300
01:08:49,227 --> 01:08:51,147
Speaker 3: You of course were co coach of Canterbury for a

1301
01:08:51,187 --> 01:08:52,947
Speaker 3: couple of seasons and involved in the team for a

1302
01:08:53,027 --> 01:08:56,387
Speaker 3: long time. So was this bittersweet or was it extra

1303
01:08:56,507 --> 01:08:57,187
Speaker 3: special for you?

1304
01:08:59,067 --> 01:09:02,307
Speaker 7: On reflection, that's probably a little bit just like sprinkles

1305
01:09:02,347 --> 01:09:06,627
Speaker 7: on top. I suppose it's when the ski edge all

1306
01:09:06,667 --> 01:09:08,027
Speaker 7: came out. It was always a game I was looking

1307
01:09:08,067 --> 01:09:11,307
Speaker 7: forward to, but the fact that both teams have been

1308
01:09:11,347 --> 01:09:13,947
Speaker 7: going well and it was sort of one versus too

1309
01:09:13,987 --> 01:09:16,027
Speaker 7: on the table and then you had to have the

1310
01:09:16,107 --> 01:09:19,307
Speaker 7: shield run then for good measure, that became a become

1311
01:09:19,307 --> 01:09:23,307
Speaker 7: a pretty exciting fixture. And yeah, it was really just

1312
01:09:23,387 --> 01:09:26,747
Speaker 7: focusing on the fixture itself, not the occasion or what

1313
01:09:27,347 --> 01:09:29,747
Speaker 7: was going on and behind it. But yeah, I'm reflecting.

1314
01:09:29,827 --> 01:09:34,067
Speaker 7: It is nice to do that, but yeah, I'm really

1315
01:09:34,067 --> 01:09:36,947
Speaker 7: grateful and for my time at Kennerbury. So it's not

1316
01:09:37,067 --> 01:09:39,467
Speaker 7: there's no bitter sweetness here, it's just it's always nice

1317
01:09:39,547 --> 01:09:42,827
Speaker 7: to get one get one up on somewhere where you've

1318
01:09:42,867 --> 01:09:43,427
Speaker 7: been previously.

1319
01:09:43,627 --> 01:09:46,027
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so, did you just try to keep your week

1320
01:09:46,187 --> 01:09:48,947
Speaker 3: normal leading in or did you in some ways embrace

1321
01:09:49,347 --> 01:09:51,147
Speaker 3: the fact that this was a special occasion?

1322
01:09:54,027 --> 01:09:54,467
Speaker 13: Good question.

1323
01:09:54,627 --> 01:09:57,147
Speaker 7: We we didn't hide from the fact that the shield

1324
01:09:57,267 --> 01:09:59,787
Speaker 7: was up for grass, so we spoke about it earlier

1325
01:09:59,787 --> 01:10:03,307
Speaker 7: in the week, but then just tried to keep things normal,

1326
01:10:04,467 --> 01:10:07,947
Speaker 7: just said a normal week and treated it. Yeah, like

1327
01:10:08,547 --> 01:10:10,987
Speaker 7: we had to be really well prepared because Canary were

1328
01:10:10,987 --> 01:10:11,507
Speaker 7: going really good.

1329
01:10:11,507 --> 01:10:12,347
Speaker 11: They were a good side, so.

1330
01:10:13,547 --> 01:10:15,427
Speaker 7: We just said to look after ourselves and that was

1331
01:10:15,467 --> 01:10:17,027
Speaker 7: the focus. Once we'd addressed the shield.

1332
01:10:17,587 --> 01:10:20,187
Speaker 3: Yea, were thirty six twenty one down with twenty five

1333
01:10:20,267 --> 01:10:23,907
Speaker 3: minutes to go. What sort of messages were you sending

1334
01:10:23,987 --> 01:10:24,707
Speaker 3: down at that point?

1335
01:10:27,347 --> 01:10:31,907
Speaker 7: It was a case of just really sticking to what

1336
01:10:32,027 --> 01:10:35,587
Speaker 7: we were doing through glimpses throughout that game, we were

1337
01:10:35,867 --> 01:10:38,507
Speaker 7: periods of play that, you know, when we held the

1338
01:10:38,587 --> 01:10:40,587
Speaker 7: ball and sort of played the way we wanted, we

1339
01:10:40,667 --> 01:10:44,547
Speaker 7: were creating opportunities and sometimes we took them, sometimes we

1340
01:10:44,627 --> 01:10:47,147
Speaker 7: directed them away. So it was more we knew we

1341
01:10:47,267 --> 01:10:49,627
Speaker 7: knew if we just got into our work that the

1342
01:10:49,707 --> 01:10:52,587
Speaker 7: opportunities would be there. And I think the message at

1343
01:10:52,627 --> 01:10:55,467
Speaker 7: halftime was just to try and win the collisions. Think

1344
01:10:55,507 --> 01:10:58,747
Speaker 7: Canary were very good natural staff physically, we didn't make

1345
01:10:58,747 --> 01:11:01,147
Speaker 7: a lot of headway and then when they were carrying,

1346
01:11:01,307 --> 01:11:03,787
Speaker 7: we sort of gave them the game line. So it

1347
01:11:03,907 --> 01:11:05,627
Speaker 7: was just a message at half time to go out

1348
01:11:05,627 --> 01:11:09,187
Speaker 7: and win. Collision switched. The boys did really well, and yeah,

1349
01:11:09,187 --> 01:11:10,787
Speaker 7: it was then it was just sticking to what we're

1350
01:11:11,347 --> 01:11:14,507
Speaker 7: how we plan to play Canterbury and trusting that and

1351
01:11:14,667 --> 01:11:16,987
Speaker 7: then when the opportunities come up, just for the boys

1352
01:11:17,027 --> 01:11:18,827
Speaker 7: just to have a swing your man.

1353
01:11:18,907 --> 01:11:21,867
Speaker 3: Look as Casey goes, all right, doesn't he he's not bad?

1354
01:11:22,707 --> 01:11:27,787
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he's Yeah, he's some talent. He's he was

1355
01:11:27,827 --> 01:11:30,907
Speaker 7: club player of the Year down here and played a

1356
01:11:30,947 --> 01:11:35,027
Speaker 7: couple of games last year for Tom Donneley, and he

1357
01:11:35,147 --> 01:11:38,667
Speaker 7: was exceptional in the club season and it was pretty

1358
01:11:38,707 --> 01:11:41,867
Speaker 7: evident pretty early that he was able to transfer what

1359
01:11:41,947 --> 01:11:44,387
Speaker 7: he was doing at Club Rugby to this level. And

1360
01:11:44,587 --> 01:11:47,947
Speaker 7: he's just keeps going to new heights, doesn't he.

1361
01:11:48,027 --> 01:11:49,627
Speaker 3: Yeah, secrets out, doesn't it. I mean, I don't know

1362
01:11:49,907 --> 01:11:51,467
Speaker 3: how old would he be. He is he just a

1363
01:11:51,507 --> 01:11:52,467
Speaker 3: kid or was he a bit older?

1364
01:11:52,507 --> 01:11:52,667
Speaker 10: Oh?

1365
01:11:52,747 --> 01:11:53,947
Speaker 7: You know, it's any young?

1366
01:11:55,107 --> 01:11:58,547
Speaker 3: Oh wow, okay, okay, so so yeah, so the next level,

1367
01:11:58,707 --> 01:12:00,387
Speaker 3: I mean, without wanting to pump a young guy's ties

1368
01:12:00,427 --> 01:12:02,227
Speaker 3: up too much, the next level is something you could

1369
01:12:02,227 --> 01:12:03,107
Speaker 3: see him aspiring to.

1370
01:12:03,747 --> 01:12:07,747
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely, Yeah, he's just he's like he's athlete. He's

1371
01:12:08,547 --> 01:12:12,867
Speaker 7: very skillful, but he's very explosive and that they will

1372
01:12:12,907 --> 01:12:13,667
Speaker 7: take you a long way.

1373
01:12:14,107 --> 01:12:16,027
Speaker 3: So now you need to keep it. This year a

1374
01:12:16,107 --> 01:12:19,227
Speaker 3: Sean had difficult that is North Harbor on Saturday afternoon.

1375
01:12:20,267 --> 01:12:22,987
Speaker 3: Do you foresee any problems refocusing your boys, because if

1376
01:12:23,027 --> 01:12:24,467
Speaker 3: you wouldn't that you keep it for the summer, right,

1377
01:12:25,307 --> 01:12:25,707
Speaker 3: that's right?

1378
01:12:25,827 --> 01:12:30,067
Speaker 7: Yeah? Yeah, ordinarily you know it's coming off games like that,

1379
01:12:30,147 --> 01:12:32,907
Speaker 7: it might be it might be a challenge, and these

1380
01:12:32,947 --> 01:12:34,387
Speaker 7: games sort of take a little bit out of you,

1381
01:12:34,827 --> 01:12:38,067
Speaker 7: not only physically but mentally. But we're just going to

1382
01:12:38,107 --> 01:12:41,147
Speaker 7: have the front up because no disrespect to the shield.

1383
01:12:41,187 --> 01:12:44,627
Speaker 7: But we've got Liam Coltman's one hundredth game this week,

1384
01:12:44,907 --> 01:12:48,747
Speaker 7: so yeah too. There'll be no excuses not to not

1385
01:12:48,907 --> 01:12:50,267
Speaker 7: to honor him with the.

1386
01:12:50,307 --> 01:12:54,547
Speaker 3: Performance and just to finish how worthy emotions in the

1387
01:12:54,627 --> 01:12:57,067
Speaker 3: coaching box after the final whistle on our radio commentary,

1388
01:12:57,107 --> 01:12:59,267
Speaker 3: our boys said that they could hear the windows being

1389
01:12:59,387 --> 01:13:02,427
Speaker 3: bashed behind them. It was a bit of excitement, no doubt.

1390
01:13:02,747 --> 01:13:08,147
Speaker 7: Otherwise denying it was a personalities up there and the

1391
01:13:08,307 --> 01:13:13,307
Speaker 7: responses once that ball got kicked out reflect toalities in

1392
01:13:13,347 --> 01:13:13,667
Speaker 7: the box.

1393
01:13:14,347 --> 01:13:16,467
Speaker 3: Great to chat to you, Mark, congratulations made I think

1394
01:13:16,747 --> 01:13:18,867
Speaker 3: yeah like for the neutral I mean, terrific game of

1395
01:13:18,907 --> 01:13:22,747
Speaker 3: rugby and love love seeing the shield change hands. All

1396
01:13:22,787 --> 01:13:24,387
Speaker 3: the best of the week ahead, mate, and for for

1397
01:13:24,507 --> 01:13:26,987
Speaker 3: Liam Copman's hundredth and holding onto the shield. I appreciate the.

1398
01:13:27,027 --> 01:13:29,787
Speaker 11: Chat, thanks very much. Fine, appreciate it now good only mate.

1399
01:13:29,667 --> 01:13:31,867
Speaker 3: Thank you Mark, Mark Brown, their head coach of Otago

1400
01:13:31,987 --> 01:13:35,147
Speaker 3: shield Holders. They put it on the line against North

1401
01:13:35,227 --> 01:13:39,027
Speaker 3: Harbor this coming Saturday, so next weekend one o'clock. If

1402
01:13:39,067 --> 01:13:41,387
Speaker 3: they win that they hold it for the summer. If

1403
01:13:41,387 --> 01:13:43,667
Speaker 3: they were to give it up to North Harbor, North

1404
01:13:43,707 --> 01:13:47,547
Speaker 3: Harbor would have one further challenge to negotiate against Southland

1405
01:13:47,587 --> 01:13:50,827
Speaker 3: the following Friday, so it's quite possible and who would

1406
01:13:50,867 --> 01:13:52,987
Speaker 3: bet against it given the year we've had that it

1407
01:13:53,067 --> 01:13:56,627
Speaker 3: might change hands a couple more times otago though if

1408
01:13:56,667 --> 01:14:01,427
Speaker 3: they beat North Harbor next Saturday, we'll hold it across

1409
01:14:01,547 --> 01:14:05,667
Speaker 3: the summer months eighteen away from two. On the other

1410
01:14:05,707 --> 01:14:08,347
Speaker 3: side of this Breakjames mccony and as regular Sunday Slot.

1411
01:14:08,987 --> 01:14:14,147
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1412
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1413
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1414
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Speaker 3: V one five on Sundays, we catch up with James mcconey.

1415
01:14:22,827 --> 01:14:24,747
Speaker 3: Lots to get through, mate, Can we start with Track

1416
01:14:24,787 --> 01:14:27,827
Speaker 3: and Field gold for Jordy Beamish, gold for Hamish Kerr.

1417
01:14:28,787 --> 01:14:32,907
Speaker 11: Exactly incredible double and also that that finished by Jordy

1418
01:14:33,307 --> 01:14:35,867
Speaker 11: Beamish will be replayed for many years to come in

1419
01:14:36,107 --> 01:14:39,547
Speaker 11: every country in the world and even Fox Sports from

1420
01:14:39,587 --> 01:14:43,147
Speaker 11: Australia just said, have a look at the Kiwi Jordy

1421
01:14:43,227 --> 01:14:45,547
Speaker 11: Beamish and I think it was on ESPN, BBC World,

1422
01:14:45,907 --> 01:14:48,947
Speaker 11: you know, like it's it's everywhere because it's a massive

1423
01:14:49,027 --> 01:14:52,507
Speaker 11: moment and I mean you would have loved it as well,

1424
01:14:52,587 --> 01:14:53,227
Speaker 11: pony right.

1425
01:14:53,787 --> 01:14:57,667
Speaker 3: Absolutely love love to and to run down the bloke

1426
01:14:57,707 --> 01:15:01,667
Speaker 3: who's just basically dominated this event, the Moroccan Elba Carley,

1427
01:15:01,787 --> 01:15:03,587
Speaker 3: to run him down in that fashion. Did you see

1428
01:15:03,587 --> 01:15:06,707
Speaker 3: Albercali afterwards? He was so annoyed with himself, is punching

1429
01:15:06,747 --> 01:15:07,507
Speaker 3: himself in the head.

1430
01:15:08,267 --> 01:15:08,907
Speaker 14: Yeah, exactly.

1431
01:15:08,987 --> 01:15:11,347
Speaker 11: And it was his first defeat in the major championship

1432
01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:12,587
Speaker 11: since twenty nineteen.

1433
01:15:12,947 --> 01:15:13,827
Speaker 7: But this is the thing.

1434
01:15:13,907 --> 01:15:17,587
Speaker 11: The World Champs are huge, right, I know that the Olympics.

1435
01:15:17,627 --> 01:15:20,667
Speaker 11: Everyone says that's the pinnacle, and it is. But you know, look,

1436
01:15:20,707 --> 01:15:24,747
Speaker 11: golfers and tennis players get four majors each year. It's crazy, right,

1437
01:15:24,907 --> 01:15:28,787
Speaker 11: So the athletes only get three every four years, right,

1438
01:15:28,907 --> 01:15:30,747
Speaker 11: So they get the Olympics and they get these two

1439
01:15:31,227 --> 01:15:33,747
Speaker 11: every two years. It's the World Champs. So this is

1440
01:15:33,907 --> 01:15:36,827
Speaker 11: so massive that he's up there with, you know, in

1441
01:15:36,947 --> 01:15:40,347
Speaker 11: the pantheon of greats, with Lovelock, Halbigs, now you know

1442
01:15:40,467 --> 01:15:42,987
Speaker 11: Alison and Ordained, all the ones who have gone before

1443
01:15:43,067 --> 01:15:46,107
Speaker 11: and won those big major world titles.

1444
01:15:46,547 --> 01:15:47,427
Speaker 7: He is right up there.

1445
01:15:48,867 --> 01:15:50,867
Speaker 11: The country kid from a Hawk's Bay f Arm.

1446
01:15:51,467 --> 01:15:54,067
Speaker 3: Just love the black singlet coming down the home straight

1447
01:15:54,107 --> 01:15:57,027
Speaker 3: and middle distance, don't you. It's just something about it

1448
01:15:57,187 --> 01:15:59,547
Speaker 3: just evoke so many memories. And then you've got Hams

1449
01:15:59,587 --> 01:16:01,387
Speaker 3: Kerr who seems to have got the hang of this now.

1450
01:16:02,507 --> 01:16:07,427
Speaker 3: You know, World champion, Olympic Champion, World indoor champion, Games champion.

1451
01:16:07,747 --> 01:16:10,587
Speaker 3: He he might have another couple of big moments ahead

1452
01:16:10,587 --> 01:16:13,307
Speaker 3: of him. Two thirty six his PB. I know he's

1453
01:16:13,347 --> 01:16:16,387
Speaker 3: targeting two forty the word wreckers two forty five. Who knows.

1454
01:16:17,307 --> 01:16:19,307
Speaker 11: I know, and we all know as well, Poney, he's

1455
01:16:19,347 --> 01:16:21,587
Speaker 11: going to take over from all of us in the media.

1456
01:16:21,907 --> 01:16:26,267
Speaker 11: He has such a great interview Hamish care yep. But

1457
01:16:26,387 --> 01:16:30,547
Speaker 11: the thing is he's he's we shouldn't be about his excellence, right,

1458
01:16:30,707 --> 01:16:34,107
Speaker 11: So backing up their Olympic gold and now World champs,

1459
01:16:34,147 --> 01:16:36,587
Speaker 11: we've actually got it's two of the biggest steals. I mean,

1460
01:16:36,627 --> 01:16:39,147
Speaker 11: you think about the steeple chase is huge. I can

1461
01:16:39,187 --> 01:16:42,067
Speaker 11: remember years when it would just be three African runners,

1462
01:16:42,147 --> 01:16:45,067
Speaker 11: you know, sometimes three Kenyans in the medal position, so

1463
01:16:45,267 --> 01:16:48,107
Speaker 11: Jordi b mission. Then you've got Hamish Cure, the black

1464
01:16:48,187 --> 01:16:52,147
Speaker 11: singlet flying over like that. I mean you have to

1465
01:16:52,267 --> 01:16:55,347
Speaker 11: go back in history really to find someone who's who's

1466
01:16:55,427 --> 01:16:57,107
Speaker 11: done as well as him, he's doubled up. I think

1467
01:16:57,187 --> 01:17:00,627
Speaker 11: Stoma from from Cuba is considered the goat, but there

1468
01:17:00,667 --> 01:17:03,067
Speaker 11: were a few boycotts that got in the way of

1469
01:17:03,147 --> 01:17:05,427
Speaker 11: his dominance. But let's see how far homous can go.

1470
01:17:06,027 --> 01:17:08,067
Speaker 3: Looking forward to that Maddy Wishie with a bronze in

1471
01:17:08,107 --> 01:17:09,787
Speaker 3: the shop put overnight as well. More on the track

1472
01:17:09,787 --> 01:17:12,987
Speaker 3: and field after two other black Ferns will play off

1473
01:17:13,027 --> 01:17:15,707
Speaker 3: a third and fourth. You have to give credit to

1474
01:17:16,467 --> 01:17:19,147
Speaker 3: Canada though, and that semi they were superb yesterday.

1475
01:17:20,027 --> 01:17:22,347
Speaker 11: Yeah, you can't blame anyone else. You have to blame

1476
01:17:22,427 --> 01:17:27,827
Speaker 11: Canada if you know yourself. But reference, I applaud you great,

1477
01:17:27,907 --> 01:17:31,267
Speaker 11: great movie by the way, like it might shock some

1478
01:17:31,427 --> 01:17:34,107
Speaker 11: of our the listeners though, poney. But yeah, look, we

1479
01:17:34,187 --> 01:17:37,187
Speaker 11: were missing our best player. Georgia Miller is already our

1480
01:17:37,227 --> 01:17:40,627
Speaker 11: best player and she mainly plays seven. So that's part

1481
01:17:40,667 --> 01:17:43,347
Speaker 11: of the issue I just wanted to talk about, which is, yeah,

1482
01:17:43,387 --> 01:17:46,547
Speaker 11: we got ambushed by Canada, but they have specialists fifteens

1483
01:17:46,587 --> 01:17:49,707
Speaker 11: players who excel and a great example of their halfback,

1484
01:17:50,267 --> 01:17:54,587
Speaker 11: Justin Justin Pellettier, who was brilliant and you know she

1485
01:17:54,707 --> 01:17:58,387
Speaker 11: plays in France, whereas our halfback Racy Pauty Laine, who's

1486
01:17:58,387 --> 01:18:01,467
Speaker 11: still an outstanding player, is playing your trade in the

1487
01:18:01,547 --> 01:18:04,227
Speaker 11: seventh circuit. So it's just not the same really, and

1488
01:18:04,707 --> 01:18:09,707
Speaker 11: a lock like the Goodies kicking goals for Canada, I mean,

1489
01:18:10,387 --> 01:18:13,427
Speaker 11: just a freak really and also committed to the fifteenth game.

1490
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Speaker 3: Yep, so Canada England in the final. That'll be an

1491
01:18:16,707 --> 01:18:19,467
Speaker 3: interesting one to keep eyes on a week from now

1492
01:18:19,987 --> 01:18:22,667
Speaker 3: to the All Blacks, who will gather today presumably to

1493
01:18:22,707 --> 01:18:25,907
Speaker 3: prepare for next Saturday's first Bledislow Cup test. I enjoyed

1494
01:18:25,987 --> 01:18:29,467
Speaker 3: seeing Cam Royguard back out on the field yesterday for Counties.

1495
01:18:30,227 --> 01:18:30,387
Speaker 10: I know.

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Speaker 11: That's one of my favorite stories is cam Royguard who

1497
01:18:33,587 --> 01:18:35,707
Speaker 11: actually played in the White Cuts, who played at Saint

1498
01:18:35,707 --> 01:18:39,827
Speaker 11: Peter's College there and he was, you know, a star,

1499
01:18:39,987 --> 01:18:41,747
Speaker 11: but he had to move to Counties. He played for

1500
01:18:41,867 --> 01:18:44,627
Speaker 11: Orni Federal Club, which is out it's in the Whop

1501
01:18:44,667 --> 01:18:48,067
Speaker 11: whops out towards Port White Cuts or in twenty nineteen

1502
01:18:48,547 --> 01:18:51,067
Speaker 11: and you know, four years later he's at a World Cup.

1503
01:18:51,587 --> 01:18:53,667
Speaker 11: Six years later, he's one of the best players in

1504
01:18:53,747 --> 01:18:56,947
Speaker 11: the world. And you know, just watching him play for

1505
01:18:57,027 --> 01:18:59,667
Speaker 11: the Steelers there just the class he's shown and you know,

1506
01:18:59,867 --> 01:19:02,627
Speaker 11: Razor will be relieved to see that. But if you

1507
01:19:02,707 --> 01:19:04,787
Speaker 11: put Hardy Savier and Will Jordan at the top of

1508
01:19:04,827 --> 01:19:07,507
Speaker 11: the All Blacks tree, well, Roy Guard is right up

1509
01:19:07,507 --> 01:19:07,867
Speaker 11: there too.

1510
01:19:08,467 --> 01:19:10,707
Speaker 3: Agree. I agree? Yeah, he and Cody Taylor for me

1511
01:19:10,787 --> 01:19:12,547
Speaker 3: are the are the others who are in that sort

1512
01:19:12,587 --> 01:19:15,267
Speaker 3: of that upper racial And yeah, just so pleased to

1513
01:19:15,347 --> 01:19:17,667
Speaker 3: have to have camera re Guard back. Presumably they'll put

1514
01:19:17,747 --> 01:19:19,187
Speaker 3: him straight back in the side. I'd imagine that that

1515
01:19:19,227 --> 01:19:23,307
Speaker 3: would be the case. Hey, the Ranfurley Shield has has

1516
01:19:23,347 --> 01:19:25,427
Speaker 3: taken up residents in Duned and we just had Mark

1517
01:19:25,467 --> 01:19:27,867
Speaker 3: Brown on their coach. They'll be happy down and done

1518
01:19:27,907 --> 01:19:29,627
Speaker 3: as you reckon. They'll hold on to it against North

1519
01:19:29,667 --> 01:19:33,707
Speaker 3: Harbor or is there another another change of hands coming well?

1520
01:19:33,747 --> 01:19:36,187
Speaker 11: As Billy Armie Wakerson door do it and it to

1521
01:19:36,227 --> 01:19:40,547
Speaker 11: Poky playing because I do remember a famous Harbor Shield

1522
01:19:40,627 --> 01:19:45,747
Speaker 11: victory was that six I'm going back, yep. But look,

1523
01:19:45,787 --> 01:19:47,907
Speaker 11: I think they can hold on, but they need to

1524
01:19:47,947 --> 01:19:49,547
Speaker 11: hold on to Lucas Casey down there.

1525
01:19:49,627 --> 01:19:51,467
Speaker 3: The fame God what a player.

1526
01:19:51,707 --> 01:19:55,107
Speaker 11: What I mean, Raiser has got to get him in

1527
01:19:55,147 --> 01:19:56,427
Speaker 11: the All Blacks as well, because I mean, I know

1528
01:19:56,507 --> 01:20:00,107
Speaker 11: it's NBC, but it usually translates. You know you can.

1529
01:20:00,467 --> 01:20:02,947
Speaker 11: Jonah was picked from the Condor sevens basically, you know,

1530
01:20:03,067 --> 01:20:06,147
Speaker 11: like you can tell when someone is an absolute superstar.

1531
01:20:06,787 --> 01:20:10,027
Speaker 11: And if he scored the try, he left the last

1532
01:20:10,067 --> 01:20:12,147
Speaker 11: defender I don't want to say fullback because I'm not

1533
01:20:12,267 --> 01:20:14,907
Speaker 11: sure it was the fullback, but left them standing like

1534
01:20:14,987 --> 01:20:18,907
Speaker 11: a statue. Statue, bro you were just there standing while

1535
01:20:18,947 --> 01:20:21,747
Speaker 11: Lucas Casey scored. Would have been a try and touch

1536
01:20:21,867 --> 01:20:25,947
Speaker 11: rugby as well. Yeah, a flanker from Kerry carry up

1537
01:20:26,027 --> 01:20:29,387
Speaker 11: North Kenny Kenny he is. He's a Northlander who's gone

1538
01:20:29,427 --> 01:20:29,987
Speaker 11: down south.

1539
01:20:30,747 --> 01:20:32,867
Speaker 3: I think the Highlands will pick him up, won't they? Surely,

1540
01:20:33,067 --> 01:20:33,907
Speaker 3: surely a good heart.

1541
01:20:34,747 --> 01:20:38,707
Speaker 11: Everybody will be fighting for his signature he is, I mean,

1542
01:20:38,747 --> 01:20:39,507
Speaker 11: a star is born.

1543
01:20:39,547 --> 01:20:39,747
Speaker 16: Really.

1544
01:20:40,147 --> 01:20:42,627
Speaker 11: He did score an incredible try against Wellington, I think,

1545
01:20:43,067 --> 01:20:45,827
Speaker 11: but scoring those two tries you won't see two bitter tries.

1546
01:20:46,187 --> 01:20:48,427
Speaker 11: And of course we've been thropping on Oli Mathis and

1547
01:20:48,467 --> 01:20:52,747
Speaker 11: Henry Pollock from England. But now Lucas Casey seems to

1548
01:20:52,747 --> 01:20:56,187
Speaker 11: have raised the bar for Otago and it almost makes

1549
01:20:56,227 --> 01:21:00,107
Speaker 11: because I'm a white cuttle guy. I remember Arthur Stone

1550
01:21:00,347 --> 01:21:03,627
Speaker 11: scoring an incredible winning try and you know Wayne Smith

1551
01:21:03,707 --> 01:21:05,787
Speaker 11: scored a great win against you guys and Wellington and

1552
01:21:06,387 --> 01:21:08,067
Speaker 11: you know the list goes on, but that's up. There

1553
01:21:08,187 --> 01:21:10,107
Speaker 11: was one of the greatest ran for the Shield winning

1554
01:21:10,147 --> 01:21:10,587
Speaker 11: tries ever.

1555
01:21:11,107 --> 01:21:13,347
Speaker 3: Yep, loved it. Hi, quick word on the Sharks. They

1556
01:21:13,427 --> 01:21:15,867
Speaker 3: beat the Riders. The Riders a week ago thought they

1557
01:21:15,867 --> 01:21:18,707
Speaker 3: were through to the preliminary final. Now they're getting ready

1558
01:21:18,747 --> 01:21:19,387
Speaker 3: for mad Monday.

1559
01:21:20,267 --> 01:21:23,107
Speaker 11: Yeah. And it's kind of funny because Ricky Stewart, you

1560
01:21:23,187 --> 01:21:25,707
Speaker 11: gotta love him, but he's just one of those angry coaches.

1561
01:21:25,747 --> 01:21:27,867
Speaker 11: He's sort of you can imagine smashing up the changer

1562
01:21:27,907 --> 01:21:30,387
Speaker 11: and we're doing whatever. But hey, the Raiders where the

1563
01:21:30,427 --> 01:21:33,467
Speaker 11: pace centers. But sometimes the cream just rises to the top.

1564
01:21:33,827 --> 01:21:36,147
Speaker 11: So two things. One, as a kid, I was a

1565
01:21:36,227 --> 01:21:40,227
Speaker 11: massive fan of Kevin Edle and his son Kal Edle

1566
01:21:40,387 --> 01:21:44,587
Speaker 11: is playing in the centers for the Sharks and he

1567
01:21:44,787 --> 01:21:47,867
Speaker 11: made a fifty meter run that set up a try beautifully,

1568
01:21:48,027 --> 01:21:50,907
Speaker 11: even though the Aussie commentators kind of ignored it and

1569
01:21:50,987 --> 01:21:53,107
Speaker 11: said it was a great cut move between the two halves.

1570
01:21:53,147 --> 01:21:57,547
Speaker 11: I'm like, come on, mate, the Kiwi just ran well

1571
01:21:57,747 --> 01:22:00,227
Speaker 11: son of a te we just ran fifty meters. Can

1572
01:22:00,267 --> 01:22:02,987
Speaker 11: you Australians get on the on the page. But the

1573
01:22:03,067 --> 01:22:05,627
Speaker 11: other thing that stood out was the banter of the

1574
01:22:05,827 --> 01:22:09,827
Speaker 11: Sharks doing the Viking clap, which of course the Raiders

1575
01:22:09,867 --> 01:22:12,707
Speaker 11: fans have adopted from the Iceland football fans. But they

1576
01:22:12,787 --> 01:22:15,547
Speaker 11: did a full Viking clap in camera. So I applaud that.

1577
01:22:16,227 --> 01:22:19,427
Speaker 3: Applaud that too, and applaud you. Always love chatting James.

1578
01:22:19,467 --> 01:22:21,827
Speaker 3: We'll do it again next week. James Macconi seven away

1579
01:22:21,867 --> 01:22:25,187
Speaker 3: from two three to two after two will zooming on

1580
01:22:25,267 --> 01:22:28,747
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson his best ever qualifying performance. He'll start third

1581
01:22:28,787 --> 01:22:31,707
Speaker 3: on the grid for the Azerbaijean Grand Prix. Alex Powell

1582
01:22:31,707 --> 01:22:33,827
Speaker 3: out of the Herald on that Sarah Kelly Ross breaking

1583
01:22:33,907 --> 01:22:36,547
Speaker 3: down one of our most successful world track and field

1584
01:22:36,627 --> 01:22:40,347
Speaker 3: championships of all time. Will go stateside with Leon Busby

1585
01:22:40,387 --> 01:22:43,147
Speaker 3: the latest in American sport, and will draw our winner

1586
01:22:43,467 --> 01:22:45,987
Speaker 3: for the Bledisloe Cup Double pass before we knock it

1587
01:22:46,067 --> 01:22:46,707
Speaker 3: on the head at three.

1588
01:22:48,907 --> 01:22:51,707
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

1589
01:22:52,187 --> 01:22:56,507
Speaker 1: and afterfield. It's all on Weekends Ford with Jason Pade

1590
01:22:57,147 --> 01:23:00,187
Speaker 1: on your home of sports, Use York.

1591
01:23:01,747 --> 01:23:04,587
Speaker 3: Coming up to seven. Welcome and to Weekend Sport. Welcome back.

1592
01:23:04,627 --> 01:23:07,627
Speaker 3: We're here till three to beverage after that at this hour.

1593
01:23:07,787 --> 01:23:12,787
Speaker 3: Alex Powell on Liam Lawson's best ever grid position he'll

1594
01:23:12,827 --> 01:23:17,027
Speaker 3: start third, and tonight's Azerbaye Jean Grand Prix and Buku.

1595
01:23:17,907 --> 01:23:22,187
Speaker 3: Sarah Cowley Ross on New Zealand's success at the World

1596
01:23:22,227 --> 01:23:25,027
Speaker 3: Track and Field Champs in Tokyo. We go stateside with

1597
01:23:25,107 --> 01:23:28,467
Speaker 3: Leon Busby lost to cover off there. You've got a

1598
01:23:28,507 --> 01:23:30,787
Speaker 3: little while left to enter for our double pass for

1599
01:23:30,827 --> 01:23:33,187
Speaker 3: the Bledisloe Cup next weekend. For the first time ever,

1600
01:23:33,387 --> 01:23:35,947
Speaker 3: the All Blacks bringing you an epic sky fan zone.

1601
01:23:35,947 --> 01:23:38,027
Speaker 3: It's happening on the kennards out of over Eden Park

1602
01:23:38,227 --> 01:23:41,227
Speaker 3: starting at one forty five next Saturday, kick off at

1603
01:23:41,307 --> 01:23:43,707
Speaker 3: five past five, So from quarter to two you can

1604
01:23:43,787 --> 01:23:48,067
Speaker 3: pop in food trucks, bars, interactive fun, lots of live music,

1605
01:23:48,667 --> 01:23:52,627
Speaker 3: kings Ali Monore, DJ Clint Roberts and others bringing the energy.

1606
01:23:53,067 --> 01:23:54,587
Speaker 3: You can only get in if you've got a ticket

1607
01:23:54,627 --> 01:23:58,667
Speaker 3: to the game. We've got two to give away a

1608
01:23:58,747 --> 01:24:02,827
Speaker 3: double pass. Again, I reiterate, we cannot get you to Aukland.

1609
01:24:03,227 --> 01:24:05,107
Speaker 3: It's just the double pass. But if you can get

1610
01:24:05,147 --> 01:24:07,347
Speaker 3: to Aalkland or you are in and around that region,

1611
01:24:07,707 --> 01:24:10,067
Speaker 3: we've got the double pass for you. Text the word

1612
01:24:10,307 --> 01:24:13,547
Speaker 3: bled uslow to nine two nine two. That's all. Spell

1613
01:24:13,627 --> 01:24:17,467
Speaker 3: it correctly, don't put any emojis or your name or

1614
01:24:17,507 --> 01:24:21,907
Speaker 3: any other punctuation. Just text the word bled uslow to

1615
01:24:22,107 --> 01:24:24,987
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two and we'll draw our winner out

1616
01:24:25,347 --> 01:24:28,907
Speaker 3: before we finish the show at three o'clock this afternoon.

1617
01:24:28,947 --> 01:24:31,347
Speaker 3: Our line's communication open all afternoon. Oh eight hundred and

1618
01:24:31,387 --> 01:24:33,787
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the phone number nine two ninety

1619
01:24:33,787 --> 01:24:37,107
Speaker 3: two for your general Text messages and emails to Jason

1620
01:24:37,107 --> 01:24:39,747
Speaker 3: at newstalkseedb dot co dot N said. We'll keep an

1621
01:24:39,787 --> 01:24:43,387
Speaker 3: eye on live sport as well with Bunnings MPC and

1622
01:24:43,587 --> 01:24:48,787
Speaker 3: Fara Palmer Cup action just underway. Can tell you that

1623
01:24:49,067 --> 01:24:51,467
Speaker 3: North Harbor already have a five mil lead over Northland

1624
01:24:52,587 --> 01:24:55,467
Speaker 3: at Albany, so they's started well. Maybe they're gearing up

1625
01:24:55,467 --> 01:24:57,867
Speaker 3: for that Shield challenge next week. It's in the Bunnings

1626
01:24:57,987 --> 01:25:00,987
Speaker 3: NPC and Otago and Northland are about to get under

1627
01:25:01,027 --> 01:25:03,787
Speaker 3: Wagh and Dunedin and the Farah Parmer Cup. But as

1628
01:25:03,827 --> 01:25:06,187
Speaker 3: we always do it around about this time on weekend sport,

1629
01:25:06,227 --> 01:25:07,587
Speaker 3: it it's time to catch you up with some of

1630
01:25:07,587 --> 01:25:09,587
Speaker 3: the stuff you might have missed. It's called in case

1631
01:25:09,787 --> 01:25:12,067
Speaker 3: you missed it, some of the things that have been

1632
01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:15,827
Speaker 3: happening in and around your sporting consciousness, perhaps starting in

1633
01:25:15,907 --> 01:25:19,427
Speaker 3: the bunning MPC Counties Mannico putting on a big display

1634
01:25:19,467 --> 01:25:20,587
Speaker 3: against Auckland's and.

1635
01:25:20,667 --> 01:25:23,387
Speaker 19: Gets up to the twenty two middle line centerfield Auckland Territory.

1636
01:25:23,627 --> 01:25:26,507
Speaker 19: Oh they're cutting japers up the middle of the park. Oh, Cheldez.

1637
01:25:26,627 --> 01:25:28,547
Speaker 19: They put an angle check for the left that touch

1638
01:25:28,707 --> 01:25:31,107
Speaker 19: like side. It's picked up by Nana Saturabo.

1639
01:25:31,427 --> 01:25:32,667
Speaker 7: The infield past.

1640
01:25:32,707 --> 01:25:35,507
Speaker 19: To Bob Bo and Lee who scores again.

1641
01:25:35,827 --> 01:25:39,267
Speaker 3: Forty nine twenty eight to Counties Wellington ruthless in a

1642
01:25:39,347 --> 01:25:42,907
Speaker 3: big win over Southland. Now the ball is white to

1643
01:25:43,067 --> 01:25:45,267
Speaker 3: Harken and Callum.

1644
01:25:45,347 --> 01:25:47,307
Speaker 2: Harckin finishes with a hat trick.

1645
01:25:49,107 --> 01:25:52,467
Speaker 19: And Wellington finish with yet another try.

1646
01:25:52,587 --> 01:25:56,547
Speaker 3: There are eleven of the game. Seventy five nineteen they

1647
01:25:56,627 --> 01:26:00,387
Speaker 3: beat south in the Lions. Meantime, why cuttle ground out

1648
01:26:00,427 --> 01:26:01,907
Speaker 3: of tight win over Tasman Sin.

1649
01:26:01,787 --> 01:26:03,947
Speaker 19: Consented in close quarters, takes it up and over the

1650
01:26:03,987 --> 01:26:05,867
Speaker 19: advantage line and on let it.

1651
01:26:05,907 --> 01:26:08,787
Speaker 17: Brown chats here for why can they down this left

1652
01:26:08,827 --> 01:26:13,227
Speaker 17: wing side of the field comes bravely and Normany's gonna

1653
01:26:13,227 --> 01:26:13,467
Speaker 17: win it.

1654
01:26:14,027 --> 01:26:16,827
Speaker 3: Twenty nine twenty four to White cut her There to Australia.

1655
01:26:17,267 --> 01:26:20,467
Speaker 3: The Brisbane Lions have booked their spots in the Australian

1656
01:26:20,547 --> 01:26:21,387
Speaker 3: Rules Grand Final.

1657
01:26:21,627 --> 01:26:22,467
Speaker 2: Kicked the gold.

1658
01:26:22,307 --> 01:26:25,987
Speaker 6: Moments Ago steps back inside, Chi left.

1659
01:26:25,827 --> 01:26:30,267
Speaker 2: Foot Roman, the Showman suicide.

1660
01:26:31,347 --> 01:26:35,947
Speaker 18: The siren's gonna sound there It is Brisbane in.

1661
01:26:38,387 --> 01:26:41,827
Speaker 3: One hundred to seventy one. They'll play Geelong in the

1662
01:26:41,907 --> 01:26:45,347
Speaker 3: final next Saturday at the MCG saying in Australia. In

1663
01:26:45,427 --> 01:26:49,027
Speaker 3: the NRL, despite their incredible regular season, the Raiders have

1664
01:26:49,187 --> 01:26:53,187
Speaker 3: limped out of the finals, falling to the Sharks. They're

1665
01:26:53,267 --> 01:26:54,947
Speaker 3: screaming for it out of the right.

1666
01:26:54,907 --> 01:26:58,547
Speaker 7: Side Nicro Arabia and Katowa. They go the short side

1667
01:26:58,587 --> 01:27:04,227
Speaker 7: again and Well Turner's God say for well Turned.

1668
01:27:04,907 --> 01:27:08,107
Speaker 3: Scores the Credanna thirty two twelve, the final score of

1669
01:27:08,147 --> 01:27:10,827
Speaker 3: the Sharks to the Premier League. A Merseyside derby win

1670
01:27:10,987 --> 01:27:14,667
Speaker 3: for Liverpool keeps them undefeated and with a one hundred

1671
01:27:14,707 --> 01:27:18,587
Speaker 3: percent record at the top. Taven back ekity K.

1672
01:27:21,187 --> 01:27:25,547
Speaker 11: And rapturous acclaim for Ugu ekity K as he scores

1673
01:27:25,627 --> 01:27:27,347
Speaker 11: his part of the season is.

1674
01:27:27,507 --> 01:27:29,387
Speaker 2: Sak not starting today, but what.

1675
01:27:29,547 --> 01:27:32,547
Speaker 3: An option to have for Liverpool two one to the Reds.

1676
01:27:32,587 --> 01:27:35,907
Speaker 3: There in Manchester United also picking up a desperately needed

1677
01:27:35,947 --> 01:27:40,587
Speaker 3: win against Chelsea Hasrawi's delivery and headed back in. It

1678
01:27:40,787 --> 01:27:42,027
Speaker 3: wasn't as good as it might have been.

1679
01:27:43,707 --> 01:27:44,987
Speaker 2: No woman is it.

1680
01:27:47,187 --> 01:27:52,347
Speaker 3: Soon, little chassamero It finished two one to Manchester United

1681
01:27:52,427 --> 01:27:56,107
Speaker 3: and finally circling back to rugby, England will have another

1682
01:27:56,227 --> 01:27:59,667
Speaker 3: crack at claiming women's Rugby World Cup glory has.

1683
01:27:59,587 --> 01:28:02,067
Speaker 6: Been taken down mother Ukaya, So Lucy Packer has got.

1684
01:28:02,107 --> 01:28:06,747
Speaker 19: To go digging, gets oats in the staff through good

1685
01:28:06,787 --> 01:28:07,907
Speaker 19: bus set up.

1686
01:28:08,147 --> 01:28:09,347
Speaker 1: It all works up.

1687
01:28:10,627 --> 01:28:14,387
Speaker 20: Thank Jones has done incredible.

1688
01:28:13,667 --> 01:28:15,907
Speaker 6: Work defensively for a weather over.

1689
01:28:15,867 --> 01:28:18,987
Speaker 20: Four pounces in your favor, blight of the bobs well.

1690
01:28:20,427 --> 01:28:23,027
Speaker 1: The scoop from the track fields and the court on

1691
01:28:23,227 --> 01:28:27,027
Speaker 1: your home of sport Weekend Sport with Jason vine Us

1692
01:28:27,067 --> 01:28:29,587
Speaker 1: talks in me, but what about.

1693
01:28:29,387 --> 01:28:33,307
Speaker 20: Max Us Stafford fastest of anybody in the first sector

1694
01:28:33,747 --> 01:28:38,227
Speaker 20: half a second up already Lawson pops it up into second.

1695
01:28:38,467 --> 01:28:41,267
Speaker 20: He's only a tenth away in the racing bulls as

1696
01:28:41,267 --> 01:28:44,147
Speaker 20: ant nanny can't pit the racing balls of the Kiwi.

1697
01:28:44,667 --> 01:28:48,027
Speaker 20: Maxmath Stafford up into eighth gear to the top and

1698
01:28:48,267 --> 01:28:52,747
Speaker 20: porel position for Maxmath Stafford here in Baku.

1699
01:28:52,907 --> 01:28:57,027
Speaker 19: Liam Lawson water Dry of Lawton at Carnal's sight on

1700
01:28:57,187 --> 01:28:57,627
Speaker 19: the Frondra.

1701
01:28:57,747 --> 01:29:00,907
Speaker 3: What a grid we've gone for tomorrow. It has been

1702
01:29:01,067 --> 01:29:05,267
Speaker 3: eighteen thousand, eight hundred and eighty days since a New

1703
01:29:05,347 --> 01:29:08,547
Speaker 3: Zealander last stood on a Formula one podium. That could

1704
01:29:08,627 --> 01:29:11,267
Speaker 3: change as early as tomorrow morning, though, As Liam Lawson

1705
01:29:11,347 --> 01:29:15,707
Speaker 3: qualified third for the Azerbaijean Grand Prix, more than fifty

1706
01:29:15,787 --> 01:29:19,027
Speaker 3: one years on from Denny Hulm winning the Argentine Grand

1707
01:29:19,107 --> 01:29:22,667
Speaker 3: Prix in nineteen seventy four, Lawson will start on the

1708
01:29:22,747 --> 01:29:25,827
Speaker 3: second row at the Baku City Circuit as the best

1709
01:29:25,907 --> 01:29:30,347
Speaker 3: qualifying result of his Formula one career so far. Those

1710
01:29:30,427 --> 01:29:32,707
Speaker 3: are the opening few lines of the article we woke

1711
01:29:32,747 --> 01:29:36,227
Speaker 3: to this morning on enzherld dot co dot enz, written

1712
01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:40,587
Speaker 3: by motorsport expert and journalist Alex Powell. Alex, you call

1713
01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:44,947
Speaker 3: it a chaotic qualifying session? Can you explain that to us?

1714
01:29:46,027 --> 01:29:48,347
Speaker 16: Afternoon? Piney you checks in the mail for reading that

1715
01:29:48,427 --> 01:29:52,507
Speaker 16: intro out. I mean to be short. There were six

1716
01:29:52,627 --> 01:29:55,267
Speaker 16: red flags through the three qualifying sessions, which is just

1717
01:29:55,347 --> 01:29:57,947
Speaker 16: the most that there has ever been in a single

1718
01:29:58,027 --> 01:30:01,827
Speaker 16: Formula one qualifying session. The previous record was five, which

1719
01:30:01,907 --> 01:30:04,867
Speaker 16: had happened twice, but to go six sex drivers basically

1720
01:30:04,947 --> 01:30:07,307
Speaker 16: hit the wall and ruined their own session and any

1721
01:30:07,387 --> 01:30:09,827
Speaker 16: chance of qualifying something good as they can, and that

1722
01:30:10,027 --> 01:30:12,267
Speaker 16: just left anyone who didn't hit the wall having to

1723
01:30:12,507 --> 01:30:15,387
Speaker 16: sort of start stopping and going to try and get

1724
01:30:15,387 --> 01:30:16,027
Speaker 16: their own laps in.

1725
01:30:16,787 --> 01:30:19,707
Speaker 3: How much then did that play into Liam Lawson's hands.

1726
01:30:21,147 --> 01:30:23,947
Speaker 16: It's a very interesting question because obviously that last session

1727
01:30:24,067 --> 01:30:27,027
Speaker 16: Q three had both Charlote Clerk of Ferrari and Osco

1728
01:30:27,067 --> 01:30:30,827
Speaker 16: Pastre hit the wall and trigger separate red flags. So

1729
01:30:30,907 --> 01:30:33,587
Speaker 16: at that time there was suspecion that was going to

1730
01:30:33,627 --> 01:30:36,227
Speaker 16: start raining and had started to drizzle, and what both

1731
01:30:36,267 --> 01:30:38,667
Speaker 16: Liam Lawson and Isiser Cadjo's Teama had done was they

1732
01:30:38,747 --> 01:30:41,267
Speaker 16: got him set an early lap and then the clerk

1733
01:30:41,347 --> 01:30:43,547
Speaker 16: hit the wall red flag as the rain stud to fall,

1734
01:30:43,667 --> 01:30:46,067
Speaker 16: and that basically meant had it kept raining, no one

1735
01:30:46,067 --> 01:30:49,827
Speaker 16: will be able to better those times. Unfortunately or unfortunately,

1736
01:30:49,907 --> 01:30:52,467
Speaker 16: rather while they were waiting for the red flag to clear,

1737
01:30:52,507 --> 01:30:54,347
Speaker 16: the rain stopped and then so that was sort of like,

1738
01:30:54,427 --> 01:30:57,507
Speaker 16: well will they be able to keep these times up?

1739
01:30:57,907 --> 01:30:59,507
Speaker 16: And then what Lia laws Snatch did was he came

1740
01:30:59,507 --> 01:31:01,507
Speaker 16: out and bettered that time anyway, So to say it's

1741
01:31:01,547 --> 01:31:03,747
Speaker 16: down to the red flags would just be a complete fabrication.

1742
01:31:03,867 --> 01:31:04,867
Speaker 16: This was all his merit.

1743
01:31:05,987 --> 01:31:08,387
Speaker 3: So, I mean, this is tremendous, isn't it. You know,

1744
01:31:08,507 --> 01:31:12,267
Speaker 3: he's had a steadily improving season from what most of

1745
01:31:12,387 --> 01:31:15,827
Speaker 3: us can see. This is this is terrific. Isn't it

1746
01:31:15,907 --> 01:31:18,467
Speaker 3: to qualify third on the starting grid?

1747
01:31:19,507 --> 01:31:20,027
Speaker 16: Absolutely?

1748
01:31:20,067 --> 01:31:20,267
Speaker 2: It is.

1749
01:31:20,267 --> 01:31:22,627
Speaker 16: I mean it's his best result. It's racing balls, equal

1750
01:31:22,667 --> 01:31:25,187
Speaker 16: best result after Yuki Sinoda did it in Brazil last year.

1751
01:31:25,667 --> 01:31:27,467
Speaker 16: But as Liam Lawson will be the first one to

1752
01:31:27,467 --> 01:31:29,347
Speaker 16: point out, you don't get any points for qualifying, you

1753
01:31:29,387 --> 01:31:31,747
Speaker 16: don't get any points of practice. But the positive areas

1754
01:31:31,787 --> 01:31:33,827
Speaker 16: that he has been rapid all weekend.

1755
01:31:34,707 --> 01:31:37,587
Speaker 3: Tell us about the track then and what Liam will

1756
01:31:37,667 --> 01:31:41,267
Speaker 3: have to do to retain or even improve his grid position.

1757
01:31:41,507 --> 01:31:44,347
Speaker 3: Are there lots of opportunities for others to pass him,

1758
01:31:44,387 --> 01:31:46,947
Speaker 3: for for him to pass or what's the what's the

1759
01:31:47,027 --> 01:31:47,467
Speaker 3: course like?

1760
01:31:48,787 --> 01:31:51,747
Speaker 16: So backer is a very interesting track. Sector is one.

1761
01:31:51,867 --> 01:31:53,987
Speaker 16: So it's a traditional sort of street track, which means

1762
01:31:54,067 --> 01:31:55,747
Speaker 16: you sort of think, okay, it's going to be tight

1763
01:31:55,867 --> 01:31:57,107
Speaker 16: for me, narrow, there's not going to be too many

1764
01:31:57,107 --> 01:31:59,707
Speaker 16: opportunities to pass Sector one and two would definitely like

1765
01:31:59,787 --> 01:32:01,347
Speaker 16: that Sector one. There is a lot of sort of

1766
01:32:01,507 --> 01:32:04,347
Speaker 16: ninety degree turns which you can't sort of take at

1767
01:32:04,387 --> 01:32:06,147
Speaker 16: full toddle, and that's where a lot of guys ran

1768
01:32:06,187 --> 01:32:09,507
Speaker 16: in trouble whading the woman getting those red flags. Sector

1769
01:32:09,627 --> 01:32:11,987
Speaker 16: three though, is flat out you get the very long

1770
01:32:12,107 --> 01:32:14,467
Speaker 16: back straight where you do have a lot of opportunity

1771
01:32:14,507 --> 01:32:18,267
Speaker 16: to overpass, to overtake rather and I think promisingly for

1772
01:32:18,387 --> 01:32:21,147
Speaker 16: Len Lawson, he was the quickest three sector three in

1773
01:32:21,267 --> 01:32:23,307
Speaker 16: both of the Friday sessions. I haven't actually looked at

1774
01:32:23,387 --> 01:32:25,867
Speaker 16: last night because I was just too wrapped up in

1775
01:32:25,947 --> 01:32:27,667
Speaker 16: getting a story to get it, but there are definitely

1776
01:32:27,707 --> 01:32:30,547
Speaker 16: good signs that he will be able to potentially move up. However,

1777
01:32:30,547 --> 01:32:33,507
Speaker 16: he does have maxistappen in front of them, so whether

1778
01:32:33,587 --> 01:32:36,107
Speaker 16: or not he'll be able to get around his former teammate,

1779
01:32:36,147 --> 01:32:39,067
Speaker 16: I would be very doubtful, but there is definitely enough

1780
01:32:39,187 --> 01:32:41,107
Speaker 16: there for him to have a very good result tonight.

1781
01:32:41,907 --> 01:32:44,067
Speaker 3: He hasn't raised Formula one on the circuit, but he

1782
01:32:44,187 --> 01:32:47,867
Speaker 3: does have Formula two experience here, so I.

1783
01:32:47,907 --> 01:32:49,987
Speaker 16: Mean, funnily enough, has last with the tobacco back in

1784
01:32:50,147 --> 01:32:52,587
Speaker 16: twenty twenty two he did get third. I think he

1785
01:32:52,747 --> 01:32:55,027
Speaker 16: qualified a bit further down was able to pull off

1786
01:32:55,067 --> 01:32:58,787
Speaker 16: some overtakes during that sort of sprint race. So yeah,

1787
01:32:58,787 --> 01:33:02,427
Speaker 16: it's not a circuit where he's underprepared for anything like that.

1788
01:33:02,507 --> 01:33:04,267
Speaker 16: He does have the experience on it, which I think

1789
01:33:04,427 --> 01:33:06,347
Speaker 16: has already shown over the last couple of time.

1790
01:33:07,787 --> 01:33:09,507
Speaker 3: I guess when you look at at a grid in

1791
01:33:09,587 --> 01:33:11,627
Speaker 3: Formula One at the moment, you expect to see the

1792
01:33:11,707 --> 01:33:16,227
Speaker 3: McLaren's up there near the front, Lando Norris seventh, oscar

1793
01:33:16,307 --> 01:33:20,067
Speaker 3: Ps three ninth on the grid. That doesn't really help Liam,

1794
01:33:20,107 --> 01:33:22,507
Speaker 3: does it having the two fastest cars behind him.

1795
01:33:23,387 --> 01:33:25,947
Speaker 16: No, But I mean we've seen Lando Norris be quick

1796
01:33:26,027 --> 01:33:28,547
Speaker 16: on the Friday and the little bit and the third

1797
01:33:28,587 --> 01:33:31,947
Speaker 16: and final practice yesterday. But McLaren have sort of battled,

1798
01:33:32,387 --> 01:33:34,267
Speaker 16: not just this week, you think to the last race

1799
01:33:34,307 --> 01:33:36,827
Speaker 16: as well at Monza, trying to be able to be

1800
01:33:37,027 --> 01:33:40,027
Speaker 16: fast on these sort of low downforce circuits where you

1801
01:33:40,147 --> 01:33:42,587
Speaker 16: basically can just fly like and that's why we've seen

1802
01:33:42,627 --> 01:33:45,267
Speaker 16: Maxistapa come into it with two pole positions in a row,

1803
01:33:45,307 --> 01:33:47,907
Speaker 16: and of course the win at Monza, whether or not

1804
01:33:47,907 --> 01:33:50,627
Speaker 16: the McLaren's will have the race pace to get around

1805
01:33:51,347 --> 01:33:55,227
Speaker 16: enough traffic to overtake Lan Wilson. I wouldn't be too

1806
01:33:55,307 --> 01:33:58,347
Speaker 16: surprised because they are just two very fast cars. But also,

1807
01:33:58,427 --> 01:34:00,427
Speaker 16: let's not forget we've got Isaac Hatgar down in P

1808
01:34:00,587 --> 01:34:03,027
Speaker 16: eight Sandwich between them. So I mean, if he can

1809
01:34:03,027 --> 01:34:05,107
Speaker 16: play the team game the way Landwilson did for him

1810
01:34:05,147 --> 01:34:06,987
Speaker 16: and Monaco, he should be able to at least, or

1811
01:34:07,067 --> 01:34:08,947
Speaker 16: hope you be able to at least keep Piastre off

1812
01:34:08,987 --> 01:34:09,267
Speaker 16: his back.

1813
01:34:09,947 --> 01:34:12,387
Speaker 3: We always looked, don't we, for Isaac Hadjar, because you

1814
01:34:12,787 --> 01:34:15,387
Speaker 3: are continually telling me that we need to compare Liam

1815
01:34:15,467 --> 01:34:17,867
Speaker 3: against his teammate. Others are as well, but some of

1816
01:34:17,907 --> 01:34:21,307
Speaker 3: them not as astute as you. So how did Isaac go?

1817
01:34:21,587 --> 01:34:24,947
Speaker 3: And you know, is it like? Is Lim a better

1818
01:34:24,987 --> 01:34:25,987
Speaker 3: driver than Isaac Hadger?

1819
01:34:27,347 --> 01:34:29,867
Speaker 16: It's hard to say. Hagi didn't do too flashy. He

1820
01:34:29,987 --> 01:34:33,587
Speaker 16: didn't so other than Q one last night, Limb has

1821
01:34:33,627 --> 01:34:36,067
Speaker 16: been faster than Hadja all weekend. Whether or not that's

1822
01:34:36,147 --> 01:34:40,107
Speaker 16: down to experience, Abaku, who knows Haji did complain about

1823
01:34:40,107 --> 01:34:43,667
Speaker 16: the high winds during qualifying? Is Lim a better driver?

1824
01:34:45,027 --> 01:34:48,107
Speaker 16: It's the window? Is such a such a small sample

1825
01:34:48,147 --> 01:34:50,387
Speaker 16: SZ to compare and Haji does have the better results,

1826
01:34:50,427 --> 01:34:52,147
Speaker 16: but whether or not that's down to the blow that

1827
01:34:52,427 --> 01:34:54,587
Speaker 16: Limb's taken to his confidence after what's happened this year

1828
01:34:54,707 --> 01:34:56,507
Speaker 16: or not, it's probably for him to say.

1829
01:34:57,587 --> 01:35:00,027
Speaker 3: Yuki sonodas had an unhappy time, hasn't he since he

1830
01:35:00,107 --> 01:35:02,067
Speaker 3: took over the second Red Bull seat? But he had

1831
01:35:02,107 --> 01:35:04,907
Speaker 3: a he's what six on the grid, that's a that's

1832
01:35:04,947 --> 01:35:07,987
Speaker 3: a rare top team for him. They'd be reasonably happy.

1833
01:35:08,067 --> 01:35:08,987
Speaker 3: What are Yuki Sonoda?

1834
01:35:10,507 --> 01:35:12,587
Speaker 16: Yuki Snow's actually had quite a weird season. So the

1835
01:35:12,667 --> 01:35:15,067
Speaker 16: issues with being Max of Stappin's teammate over the last

1836
01:35:15,107 --> 01:35:17,107
Speaker 16: couple of years we saw with Sergio Perez and i

1837
01:35:17,187 --> 01:35:19,187
Speaker 16: mean two races with Liam Lawson was that they actually

1838
01:35:19,267 --> 01:35:22,347
Speaker 16: qualified really poorly. The race pace was there. Yuki Snow's

1839
01:35:22,347 --> 01:35:24,787
Speaker 16: being another way around. He doesn't actually qualify that badly.

1840
01:35:25,147 --> 01:35:27,147
Speaker 16: He just goes backwards in the race. So whether or

1841
01:35:27,187 --> 01:35:30,067
Speaker 16: not he is still six come the check and flag

1842
01:35:30,267 --> 01:35:33,027
Speaker 16: tonight will be very interesting to see. But like we

1843
01:35:33,107 --> 01:35:35,187
Speaker 16: saw at Monza, he went backwards and ended up tangling

1844
01:35:35,187 --> 01:35:36,827
Speaker 16: with Lawson and sort of ruined.

1845
01:35:36,627 --> 01:35:37,187
Speaker 11: His own race.

1846
01:35:38,307 --> 01:35:40,867
Speaker 3: Question for you on text here, can Maxistappen still win

1847
01:35:40,947 --> 01:35:41,747
Speaker 3: the driver's title.

1848
01:35:42,827 --> 01:35:46,467
Speaker 16: Mathematically, I'm sure he probably could have not done those sums. However,

1849
01:35:46,667 --> 01:35:50,187
Speaker 16: I would be amazed if McLaren continued to have runs

1850
01:35:50,387 --> 01:35:53,067
Speaker 16: like this where they're not consistently scoring at the front

1851
01:35:53,107 --> 01:35:55,187
Speaker 16: of the grid to drop enough points that opened it

1852
01:35:55,307 --> 01:35:57,147
Speaker 16: for the sappen. But you never know, this is motorsport.

1853
01:35:57,947 --> 01:35:59,947
Speaker 3: All right, back to Liam then to finish. If he

1854
01:36:00,107 --> 01:36:02,987
Speaker 3: does in fact get on the podium, how should we

1855
01:36:03,147 --> 01:36:04,187
Speaker 3: regard that achievement?

1856
01:36:05,467 --> 01:36:09,027
Speaker 16: Ah, I mean it would be fantastic for him. That's

1857
01:36:09,307 --> 01:36:11,587
Speaker 16: you know, first and foremost. So I mean, in isolation

1858
01:36:11,787 --> 01:36:14,307
Speaker 16: it's great, it's has best results until it's not. In

1859
01:36:14,387 --> 01:36:16,827
Speaker 16: the year obviously gets a chance to better it. I

1860
01:36:16,987 --> 01:36:18,827
Speaker 16: think if he can do it from where he is

1861
01:36:18,947 --> 01:36:22,787
Speaker 16: now and hold p three or even improve, I think

1862
01:36:22,827 --> 01:36:24,707
Speaker 16: it would be one of the sporting stories of the year,

1863
01:36:24,827 --> 01:36:27,227
Speaker 16: just because of the context of what's gone into everything

1864
01:36:27,267 --> 01:36:28,347
Speaker 16: that's happened to him this year.

1865
01:36:29,907 --> 01:36:32,627
Speaker 3: All right, well, well we will certainly be watching eleven

1866
01:36:32,627 --> 01:36:34,387
Speaker 3: o'clock start tonight New Zealand time.

1867
01:36:34,347 --> 01:36:34,947
Speaker 19: Is that correct?

1868
01:36:35,587 --> 01:36:35,747
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1869
01:36:35,827 --> 01:36:36,227
Speaker 10: Early one?

1870
01:36:38,627 --> 01:36:40,467
Speaker 3: And how long is a race normally takes? I think

1871
01:36:40,467 --> 01:36:43,227
Speaker 3: people want to push through, so how long will they

1872
01:36:43,267 --> 01:36:44,467
Speaker 3: have to stay up for a couple of.

1873
01:36:44,467 --> 01:36:47,067
Speaker 16: Hours, about an hour and a half normally if there's

1874
01:36:47,067 --> 01:36:48,747
Speaker 16: no red flags, iuch. I mean, there's no guarantee. We

1875
01:36:48,867 --> 01:36:50,827
Speaker 16: might have seen them all last night. But if anyone

1876
01:36:50,947 --> 01:36:52,947
Speaker 16: feels about heading the wall, I imagine that will delay

1877
01:36:52,987 --> 01:36:54,387
Speaker 16: things a little bit, all.

1878
01:36:54,347 --> 01:36:57,467
Speaker 3: Right, manageable then manageable. I noticed that you were still

1879
01:36:57,507 --> 01:37:00,107
Speaker 3: filing your stories at about half past two this morning,

1880
01:37:00,147 --> 01:37:02,267
Speaker 3: so I appreciate you. You're getting up and having a

1881
01:37:02,347 --> 01:37:04,747
Speaker 3: yarn to us. Look forward to reading your race analysis

1882
01:37:04,827 --> 01:37:07,227
Speaker 3: on the Herald website and the paper in the next

1883
01:37:07,227 --> 01:37:08,787
Speaker 3: twenty four hours of saying mate, thanks for your time.

1884
01:37:09,387 --> 01:37:12,027
Speaker 3: Jes Bunny, all the best, Alex Pale read him at

1885
01:37:12,147 --> 01:37:15,347
Speaker 3: enziherld dot co dot nz a studio Motus Sport Analysis.

1886
01:37:15,707 --> 01:37:19,827
Speaker 3: Eleven o'clock tonight the Azerbaijan Grand Prix, with Liam Lawson

1887
01:37:19,907 --> 01:37:23,147
Speaker 3: starting from third on the grid. That is the highest

1888
01:37:23,187 --> 01:37:26,547
Speaker 3: he's ever qualified. Max for Stappen and Carlos signs are

1889
01:37:26,627 --> 01:37:29,067
Speaker 3: on the front row of the grid in red Bull

1890
01:37:29,147 --> 01:37:32,667
Speaker 3: and William's respectively, Kimmy and Toonelli and the Mercedes alongside

1891
01:37:32,747 --> 01:37:37,267
Speaker 3: Liam Lawson is fourth, then George Russell, Yuki Sonoda Lando Norris,

1892
01:37:37,347 --> 01:37:41,107
Speaker 3: the first of the McLaren's Isaac Hadger, Liam Lawson's Racing Balls,

1893
01:37:41,107 --> 01:37:44,987
Speaker 3: teammate Oscar Pastri and charl Leclair in the Ferrari making

1894
01:37:45,107 --> 01:37:48,987
Speaker 3: up the top ten to twenty two man looking forward

1895
01:37:49,027 --> 01:37:51,347
Speaker 3: to this eleven o'clock tonight, reckon we can get there

1896
01:37:51,387 --> 01:37:53,947
Speaker 3: easy to twenty two. We'll take a break then come

1897
01:37:54,027 --> 01:37:57,507
Speaker 3: back and talk some track and field. It's been a very,

1898
01:37:57,907 --> 01:38:01,667
Speaker 3: very impressive campaign for New Zealand at the World Track

1899
01:38:01,707 --> 01:38:05,187
Speaker 3: and Field Championships in Tokyo. We're fifth on the medal

1900
01:38:05,307 --> 01:38:07,747
Speaker 3: table with a Cup Golds and a bronze overnight for

1901
01:38:07,787 --> 01:38:10,947
Speaker 3: Maddi Weshi in the women's shotput. Sarah Cally Ross Gonna

1902
01:38:10,947 --> 01:38:12,187
Speaker 3: break it all down for us when we come.

1903
01:38:12,107 --> 01:38:15,947
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Speaker 3: Weekend Sport on News TALKSB two twenty five. New Zealand

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Speaker 3: currently sitting a staggering fifth on the medal table at

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Speaker 3: the World Athletics Championships in Tokyo. Hamous Kerr with high

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Speaker 3: jump gold, Jordy Beamish with three thousand meter steeple chase

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Speaker 3: gold and Maddi Weshy with shot put bronze overnight. As

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Speaker 3: well as that, Tom Walsh was fourth in the men's

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Speaker 3: shotput with the season's best twenty one point nine to

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Speaker 3: four meters. There were three kiwi's Eliza McCartney, Olivia McTaggart

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Speaker 3: and Imogen Eiras in the women's pole vault final, with

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Speaker 3: Olivia mctaggett the best of them in eighth position. Zoey

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Speaker 3: Hobbes just missed the final of the women's one hundred

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Speaker 3: meters but finished with a ranking of twelfth in the world.

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Speaker 3: Tory Morby was seventh in the women's javelin final overnight,

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Speaker 3: and Connor Bell competes in the men's discus final tonight.

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Speaker 3: It's quite the list. Let's bring in twenty twelve Olympian

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Speaker 3: and two time Commonwealth Games hept athlete now broadcaster, writer

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Speaker 3: and track and field analyst Sarah Cally Ross Sarah three medals,

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Speaker 3: two gold, fifth on the medal table. Did you see

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Speaker 3: this coming?

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Speaker 21: I didn't see as high off on the medal table,

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Speaker 21: that's for sure. It's been in an amazing wait for

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Speaker 21: track and field in New Zealand and I think Jordy Beamish,

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Speaker 21: you know that from the start out of the blocks

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Speaker 21: just set the tone really and the rest of the

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Speaker 21: team have all risen to the occasion.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Jordi Beamish. How much did you enjoy

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Speaker 3: seeing him win gold in the three thousand meter steeple

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Speaker 3: chase after falling and being trodden on and qualifying.

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Speaker 21: I loved it so much because the thing about Jordy

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Speaker 21: he was in such good shape last year and so

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Speaker 21: to have not been in the form which he knew

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Speaker 21: he was in in Powis Mars was absolutely devastating. So

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Speaker 21: to see him come out and show the world what

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Speaker 21: he can do, and really the race fell into his

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Speaker 21: hands because it was so slow and progestrian, and as

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Speaker 21: every lap went went round it was like, wow, this

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Speaker 21: is being set up for Beamish. He is well known

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Speaker 21: for having the best CAC in the world and it

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Speaker 21: will have said it in the week no one will

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Speaker 21: beat him in that situation and it showed Alba Carley,

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Speaker 21: two time Olympic champion, two time World champion, he was

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Speaker 21: punching his face.

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Speaker 3: He candn't disbelief. And Jordi Beamish won fifteen hundred meters

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Speaker 3: indoor World Championship gold last year. He couldn't do both

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Speaker 3: the fifteen hundred meters and the three thousand steeples? Could

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Speaker 3: he going forward well? And an Olympic Games for example.

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Speaker 21: Well, the thing with Jordie is in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 21: he made the decision to go to steeples. He's actually

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Speaker 21: our national five thousand meter record holder. He's run thirteen

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Speaker 21: o nine outdoors, he's run faster indoors and he he

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Speaker 21: ran that last year. So he's got the ability at

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Speaker 21: five k and he's got the ability at fifteen hundred.

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Speaker 21: What he is very he's very smart and strategic and

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Speaker 21: he's done. He said, hey, look three thousand is the

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Speaker 21: sweet spot over the steeples.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 21: And you know what that decision paid off. You know

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Speaker 21: in twenty twenty three he will finished fifth in the

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Speaker 21: World Championship final and then obviously has got the championship. Now,

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Speaker 21: I don't think people quite comprehend how much of a

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Speaker 21: stronghold the African continent has had on this event until

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Speaker 21: this key we bloke off the farm and Havelock North

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Speaker 21: has come and shown up the.

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Speaker 3: World absolutely brilliant gold to for high Jumphemish Kerr equalling

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Speaker 3: as PB of two thirty six. Sir, he's talked about

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Speaker 3: clearing two forty, even chasing the world record of two

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Speaker 3: forty five, which has stood since nineteen ninety three. Is

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Speaker 3: that realistic?

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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 21: I think the intermediate goal for me is the outright

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Speaker 21: area record because currently he holds that with Tim Forsyth

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Speaker 21: of Australia, so they both jointly hold that at two

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Speaker 21: meters thirty six, which was the same height he won

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Speaker 21: earlier in the week. So I think that's the next

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Speaker 21: milestone two forty. You know, when you get to those heights,

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Speaker 21: you only you can't see the bar height change that

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Speaker 21: much in terms of as you're visually sighting the bar

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Speaker 21: where you're like, wow, it's high. So I don't I

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Speaker 21: So to answer your question, yes, I think it's possible

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Speaker 21: for Hamish Okay.

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Speaker 3: Having three New Zealanders in a World Championship final in

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Speaker 3: any event, it's pretty special. We had Eliza mccatt and

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Speaker 3: the Olivia mctaggett and Emmageneris all in the women's pole

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Speaker 3: vault final. How have we become so prominent in women's

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Speaker 3: pole vault?

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Speaker 21: Well, I think we were very lucky in terms of

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Speaker 21: the early stage development of these three athletes, the facilities

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Speaker 21: that they were exposed to at such a young age,

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Speaker 21: and actually the talent transfer for a couple of them

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Speaker 21: are Tagget and Heiress from gymnastics. We found out about

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Speaker 21: Eliza in twenty sixteen with that incredible bonds, and I

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Speaker 21: think then that inspired this next generation which McTaggart and

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Speaker 21: Eras are in. Now we're seeing the fruits of that

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Speaker 21: environment coaching and also exposure of belief from your mates,

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Speaker 21: your training mates seeing them clear high bars. So that

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Speaker 21: is a phenomenal achievement and I think that they'll be

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Speaker 21: really happy with that. Obviously, just hugely devastating for Eliza

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Speaker 21: to have to retire, and she knows if she is

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Speaker 21: fit and healthy, she is well capable of taking these titles.

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Speaker 21: But I really hope that her body and her mind

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Speaker 21: plays ball in the years to come.

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Speaker 3: Could any of the three of them contend for the

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Speaker 3: Olympic podium in la in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 21: Well, the pole volt hasn't shifted so much in recent

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Speaker 21: years in the heights that generally win, So if you

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Speaker 21: are for eighty plus you are going to be right

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Speaker 21: in the mix, you know four ninety one the other night,

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Speaker 21: four ninety five at four ninety If you're at that

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Speaker 21: bar at in the right getting those heights on the

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Speaker 21: first attempt, you will be well in the mixer. So

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Speaker 21: mc taggart has probably had the best breakthrough season in

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Speaker 21: terms of winning the London Diamond League. Her personal best

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Speaker 21: now is for seventy three, so she will be looking

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Speaker 21: to make that next jump into the four eighties, which

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Speaker 21: we'll see her right in the mix come La.

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Speaker 3: Just before we leave the pole vault, Swedish superstar Mondo

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Speaker 3: de plant has clared six thirty in Tokyo, his fourteenth

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Speaker 3: world record. Incredible. Can you put into context just how

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Speaker 3: special what he is doing is.

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Speaker 21: He has taken the whole sport, not just pole vault,

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Speaker 21: but the sport of athletics to an extra level. And

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Speaker 21: what he is doing is elevating pole vault into hides

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Speaker 21: that people just never imagined. And what I love about

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Speaker 21: Mondo is that every time he's a showman, he but

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Speaker 21: he delivers. And for him to have that pressure on

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Speaker 21: him every time to go, oh, well, you know all

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Speaker 21: these people are showing up, the world is watching. You know,

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Speaker 21: probably he's going to jump a world record, but it's

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Speaker 21: actually so much harder than it just and then it

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Speaker 21: sounds like me just spouting that off what he is doing,

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Speaker 21: the speed he is running in with with this long pole,

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Speaker 21: having to accurately place it in the pot in the box,

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Speaker 21: and then basically you've got two pendulums happening, the pole

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Speaker 21: going round over the jumping box and then the mondo

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Speaker 21: going around the pole and six meters thirty. It is

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Speaker 21: so high and he's able to execute this and just

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Speaker 21: deliver it once again. You know, he's got a world

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Speaker 21: record bonus from World Athletics, but he's doing very well

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Speaker 21: from his other commercial endorsements as well. But it's great

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Speaker 21: to see because he's entertainer and he's delivering when it

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Speaker 21: counts toutally remarkable.

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Speaker 3: You're very close with Zoe Hobbs. She missed the one

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Speaker 3: hundred meter final eleven one six in her heat, you

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Speaker 3: around eleven oh nine in her semi. Missing the finals,

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Speaker 3: I say, finishing twelfth in the world. How will Zoe

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Speaker 3: Hobbs be feeling about that?

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Speaker 21: I think she's gutted, She's definitely gutted to not make

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Speaker 21: the final, but I think that she's really trying to

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Speaker 21: make that transition from semi finalists now into the final.

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Speaker 21: That's a really tough ass. You're talking about hundreds thousands

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Speaker 21: of a second where you need to execute. And I

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Speaker 21: know that her team have put an extra emphasis on

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Speaker 21: that semi final race in terms of the preparation they

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Speaker 21: put in this year to make that next jump.

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Speaker 3: You know, twelve fast in the world.

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Speaker 21: She's disappointed, but there's only eleven other women in the

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Speaker 21: world who are faster than her, and I think New

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Speaker 21: Zealand needs to.

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Speaker 3: Really realize that and really realize what.

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Speaker 21: A phenomenal athlete Zoe Hobbs is. Now hopefully she'll make

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Speaker 21: the next jump up and this campaign will have taught

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Speaker 21: her and her team so much. And I think we'll

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Speaker 21: see another version of Zoe come out in the next

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Speaker 21: four years as she builds to.

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Speaker 3: LA can't wait. Maddie Wishy Olympic silver last year, now

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Speaker 3: World Championship bronze new PB of twenty four to zero

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Speaker 3: six meters. She's only twenty six. Dame Valerie Adams will

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Speaker 3: still winning gold medals in her thirties and Olympic bronze

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Speaker 3: when she was thirty six years old. What do you

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Speaker 3: predict for Maddi Wishy.

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Speaker 21: Maddi Wishy delivers at major championships. Once again, she has

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Speaker 21: thrown an equal personal best in the heat of the moment,

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Speaker 21: and I just think that she is such a competitor,

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Speaker 21: and ever since she won her World Junior title and

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Speaker 21: that brilliant silver last year in Paris, you know she

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Speaker 21: is able to at a major championship, get physically prepared

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Speaker 21: to be able to do it, but mentally switch on

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Speaker 21: and you know she's got a long career ahead of

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Speaker 21: her if she wants it. And I think hats off

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Speaker 21: to her and her coach Matt Mike Schofield, because that

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Speaker 21: was a great competition. I think they're pretty gutted that

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Speaker 21: they didn't get the gold, but actually no one can

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Speaker 21: take away from the fact that she's a World Championship

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Speaker 21: bronze medalist.

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Speaker 3: And just a word on Tory Morby as well. I

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Speaker 3: was at a function a couple of months ago and

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Speaker 3: I heard her speak and I was really impressed by

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Speaker 3: her seventh in the women's javelin Overnight didn't really get

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Speaker 3: close to her PB. Is seventh a good result for

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Speaker 3: her or will she be disappointed with that?

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Speaker 21: It's a really good result for Tory. This is the

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Speaker 21: first time that she's made the Championship final and I

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Speaker 21: think that that for her in itself is another step forward.

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Speaker 21: I think the way that the competition works in terms

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Speaker 21: of the top ten getting another two throw, then top

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Speaker 21: eight and then top six. She's pretty gutted to not

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Speaker 21: get into that final top six, so she got bumped

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Speaker 21: in that last and that penultimate round. Yes, you need

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Speaker 21: to be throwing great distances in that final throw and

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Speaker 21: in the final, which we saw her her great throw

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Speaker 21: in qualifying. So I think overall, seventh is actually a

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Speaker 21: very good.

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Speaker 3: Result for her. Always enjoy your terrific track and field analysis, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us this afternoon.

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Speaker 21: Thanks Piney, and thanks to everyone who's tuned in and

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Speaker 21: support the kiwis in Tokyo this week. It's been awesome.

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Speaker 3: It has been awesome. I've loved it. Thanks indeed, Sarah.

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Speaker 3: Sarah Caley Ross there with some great analysis on New

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Speaker 3: Zealand's performances at the World Track and Field Champs in Tokyo.

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Speaker 3: Want to go Connor Bell in the discus final tonight,

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Speaker 3: but regardless of how he goes, it will still be

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Speaker 3: among our most successful in fact by metals our most

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01:50:04,147 --> 01:50:07,147
Speaker 3: successful world track and field champs go to Hamish Care

2119
01:50:07,187 --> 01:50:10,507
Speaker 3: and Jordy Beamish and the bronze to Maddie Wishi. Looking

2120
01:50:10,547 --> 01:50:13,547
Speaker 3: forward to seeing how they and many of our other

2121
01:50:13,587 --> 01:50:15,787
Speaker 3: athletes go over the next little while. Commonwealth Games next

2122
01:50:15,867 --> 01:50:18,307
Speaker 3: year of course, and then on towards the Olympics in

2123
01:50:18,667 --> 01:50:21,267
Speaker 3: La in twenty twenty eight. Going to get your state

2124
01:50:21,387 --> 01:50:24,787
Speaker 3: side shortly to talk American sport. Just updating you on

2125
01:50:25,627 --> 01:50:29,707
Speaker 3: Bunning's ENDPC action North Harbor against Northland. Remember North Harbor

2126
01:50:29,747 --> 01:50:32,707
Speaker 3: haven't won a game yet this season. They're o and seven.

2127
01:50:32,947 --> 01:50:36,307
Speaker 3: They've got a Ranfurley Shield challenge next weekend. Now they're

2128
01:50:36,347 --> 01:50:39,467
Speaker 3: leading Northland fourteen points to five at Albany after half

2129
01:50:39,507 --> 01:50:43,747
Speaker 3: an hour, so who knows, maybe North Harbor will springboard

2130
01:50:43,907 --> 01:50:46,147
Speaker 3: off their first one of the season into that ran

2131
01:50:46,227 --> 01:50:50,147
Speaker 3: Furley Shield challenge next week after this state side with

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01:50:50,187 --> 01:50:54,347
Speaker 3: the on Busby will also also get in touch with

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01:50:54,427 --> 01:50:56,867
Speaker 3: our winner of the Bledisloe Cup double pass that to

2134
01:50:56,907 --> 01:50:57,587
Speaker 3: come shortly to.

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01:50:59,547 --> 01:51:02,947
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields call oh eight

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Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty weekends forward with Jason pain GJ

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01:51:06,987 --> 01:51:10,667
Speaker 1: Gunner Homes New Zealand's lost trusted Home, milder news talks.

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01:51:10,467 --> 01:51:13,747
Speaker 3: At Baby coming up nineteen to three, take a stateside shortly,

2139
01:51:13,787 --> 01:51:15,667
Speaker 3: lots of American sport to catch up on, but a

2140
01:51:15,747 --> 01:51:18,427
Speaker 3: scandal in the NBA and the season hasn't even started yet.

2141
01:51:18,467 --> 01:51:21,947
Speaker 3: The NFL and college football seasons underway, the Major League

2142
01:51:21,947 --> 01:51:24,747
Speaker 3: Baseball playoffs coming up. Leon Buzby shortly on that. But

2143
01:51:24,987 --> 01:51:28,027
Speaker 3: across the weekend we've been asking for entries for a

2144
01:51:28,107 --> 01:51:30,907
Speaker 3: Bledisloe Cup double Pass, which, as well as getting you

2145
01:51:30,947 --> 01:51:33,387
Speaker 3: into the game, get you into the fan zone, the

2146
01:51:33,507 --> 01:51:35,947
Speaker 3: sky fan Zone on the Kennard's out of Oval Eden

2147
01:51:36,027 --> 01:51:37,947
Speaker 3: Park from one forty five. So if you've got a

2148
01:51:37,987 --> 01:51:40,107
Speaker 3: ticket to the game next Saturday at Eden Park, you

2149
01:51:40,147 --> 01:51:42,387
Speaker 3: can go to the fan zone from one forty five.

2150
01:51:42,467 --> 01:51:45,907
Speaker 3: The game kicks off at five past five. Of course, food, drink,

2151
01:51:46,067 --> 01:51:49,307
Speaker 3: interactive fun, live music, and we're going to be broadcasting

2152
01:51:49,347 --> 01:51:51,907
Speaker 3: from there. Not as I say that that is necessarily important,

2153
01:51:52,147 --> 01:51:53,987
Speaker 3: but you can come and say gooday. If you luck,

2154
01:51:53,987 --> 01:51:56,227
Speaker 3: we might get your thoughts on the game. So we've

2155
01:51:56,267 --> 01:51:58,147
Speaker 3: had about we've been giving away the double pass. We've

2156
01:51:58,147 --> 01:52:03,347
Speaker 3: had about a million texts, including some that incorrectly spelt bleduslow,

2157
01:52:04,067 --> 01:52:08,867
Speaker 3: but many, many many more that did spell bledisloe correctly.

2158
01:52:09,027 --> 01:52:14,547
Speaker 3: We've asked our text machine to randomly generate us a winner. Andrew, Mate,

2159
01:52:14,587 --> 01:52:21,147
Speaker 3: it's you, beauty. Now can you get to Auckland? Are

2160
01:52:21,187 --> 01:52:22,987
Speaker 3: you in Auckland? Or can you get to Auckland.

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01:52:24,187 --> 01:52:27,907
Speaker 5: I'm on the beautiful pep Mar He have plenty so yeah,

2162
01:52:27,907 --> 01:52:29,067
Speaker 5: I can get to Aukland for sure.

2163
01:52:29,067 --> 01:52:29,707
Speaker 9: A couple of hours.

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01:52:30,387 --> 01:52:33,227
Speaker 3: Excellent. Now the big question, now, I guess Andrew, is

2165
01:52:33,587 --> 01:52:35,827
Speaker 3: is who was going to be nicest to you over

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01:52:35,867 --> 01:52:37,667
Speaker 3: the next six days in order to get the other

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01:52:37,867 --> 01:52:39,587
Speaker 3: the other other half of the double pass.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, my managed to have a sweet steak on that one.

2169
01:52:43,867 --> 01:52:44,587
Speaker 3: We'll see how we go.

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01:52:44,867 --> 01:52:47,067
Speaker 5: Maybe my wife might want to get in there.

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01:52:46,947 --> 01:52:47,027
Speaker 1: But.

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01:52:48,867 --> 01:52:50,907
Speaker 3: What imagine she'd be at the front of the Q, Andrew.

2173
01:52:50,987 --> 01:52:52,587
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to. I don't want to

2174
01:52:52,587 --> 01:52:54,227
Speaker 3: make the decision for you, mate, but it might be

2175
01:52:54,347 --> 01:52:56,987
Speaker 3: sensible to perhaps offer it to her first.

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01:52:57,027 --> 01:53:00,627
Speaker 10: At least these things have never before gone conclusion, mate.

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01:53:02,787 --> 01:53:04,987
Speaker 3: Top man, Andrew, you won make double pass for You're

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01:53:04,987 --> 01:53:06,867
Speaker 3: going to put your back on hold Andy, and he's

2179
01:53:06,867 --> 01:53:08,387
Speaker 3: going to talk to you a bit more and we'll

2180
01:53:08,387 --> 01:53:10,707
Speaker 3: see you hopefully at the fan zone, but certainly at

2181
01:53:10,707 --> 01:53:11,707
Speaker 3: the game next Saturday night.

2182
01:53:12,547 --> 01:53:12,987
Speaker 11: Perfect.

2183
01:53:12,987 --> 01:53:16,507
Speaker 3: Thanksoni a pleasure, mate, look look forward to seeing you

2184
01:53:16,947 --> 01:53:19,387
Speaker 3: and thanks to New Zealand Rugby for making the double

2185
01:53:19,427 --> 01:53:21,267
Speaker 3: pass available to us. Please join us at the fan

2186
01:53:21,347 --> 01:53:24,307
Speaker 3: zone one forty five. It starts at Kennard's out of

2187
01:53:24,347 --> 01:53:27,467
Speaker 3: oval at Eden Park next weekend and then onto the game.

2188
01:53:27,547 --> 01:53:30,067
Speaker 3: Of course, let's get your state side to catch up.

2189
01:53:30,507 --> 01:53:32,867
Speaker 3: We'll catch you up on the latest and Americans sportly

2190
01:53:32,947 --> 01:53:35,107
Speaker 3: on Busby is with us. Leon, How are you doing mate.

2191
01:53:36,307 --> 01:53:39,107
Speaker 10: I'm great, Mato through Jason, thanks for having me back.

2192
01:53:39,267 --> 01:53:41,067
Speaker 10: God heaps to cover, So let's get in today.

2193
01:53:41,467 --> 01:53:45,147
Speaker 3: Let's go NBA preseason just eleven days away. The LA Clippers,

2194
01:53:45,227 --> 01:53:50,227
Speaker 3: though under investigation for alleged circumvention of the salary cap,

2195
01:53:50,507 --> 01:53:51,147
Speaker 3: tell us about this.

2196
01:53:52,227 --> 01:53:54,747
Speaker 10: Yes, even though the NBA is still in its all seasons,

2197
01:53:54,747 --> 01:53:58,267
Speaker 10: it's penny to discuss. With so much to cover in football, Lander,

2198
01:53:58,387 --> 01:54:00,227
Speaker 10: just for today, I want to focus on this one

2199
01:54:00,347 --> 01:54:03,587
Speaker 10: main headline. So as you alluded to, the league front

2200
01:54:03,667 --> 01:54:08,307
Speaker 10: officers investigating allegations that they LA Clippers facilitated a twenty

2201
01:54:08,347 --> 01:54:12,907
Speaker 10: eight million US dollar no show endorsement Gill for star

2202
01:54:13,067 --> 01:54:17,627
Speaker 10: forward Kawhi Leonard with a now bankrupt sustainability company called Aspiration,

2203
01:54:18,227 --> 01:54:20,947
Speaker 10: allegedly in an effort to circumvent or find a way

2204
01:54:20,987 --> 01:54:24,627
Speaker 10: around the NBA salary cap. Now the Clippers have adamantly

2205
01:54:24,747 --> 01:54:27,627
Speaker 10: denied these damn allegations. This is not a good look

2206
01:54:27,667 --> 01:54:31,227
Speaker 10: for franchise owners. Steve Barmer, the form of Microsoft CEO

2207
01:54:31,347 --> 01:54:34,387
Speaker 10: and tech Mogulworth are reported one hundred and fifty five

2208
01:54:34,467 --> 01:54:37,787
Speaker 10: billion US dollars now he allegedly signed off the arrangement

2209
01:54:37,867 --> 01:54:41,227
Speaker 10: for Lended, who's widely considered the best two way player

2210
01:54:41,307 --> 01:54:44,147
Speaker 10: in the league the last decade. This story was uncovered

2211
01:54:44,187 --> 01:54:48,387
Speaker 10: by ESP and investigated reporter Pablo Torre and is gaining

2212
01:54:48,507 --> 01:54:52,107
Speaker 10: traction following news from only a few days ago. There's

2213
01:54:52,147 --> 01:54:55,547
Speaker 10: a massive paper trail that implicates the Clippers. So NBA

2214
01:54:55,587 --> 01:54:58,147
Speaker 10: Commissioner Adam Siel was trying his best to downplay the

2215
01:54:58,147 --> 01:55:02,187
Speaker 10: whole scandal, saying that all of the evidence so far circumstantial,

2216
01:55:02,267 --> 01:55:05,387
Speaker 10: but a lot of NBA owners and executives are nervously

2217
01:55:05,467 --> 01:55:08,267
Speaker 10: waiting any penal. I think it's fair to say that

2218
01:55:08,387 --> 01:55:10,507
Speaker 10: this may not be just a one off in discretion

2219
01:55:11,067 --> 01:55:14,307
Speaker 10: but teams run into their training camps and the regular

2220
01:55:14,387 --> 01:55:16,707
Speaker 10: season topping off, and just over four weeks on October

2221
01:55:16,787 --> 01:55:19,667
Speaker 10: twenty one, Adam Stilber will be keenly to get this

2222
01:55:19,787 --> 01:55:22,507
Speaker 10: distraction pushed to the side, and it's a really bad

2223
01:55:22,547 --> 01:55:25,347
Speaker 10: look for the association. Will certainly keep eyes on any

2224
01:55:25,387 --> 01:55:29,027
Speaker 10: developments finally, because the latest collective barging agreement means that

2225
01:55:29,187 --> 01:55:32,107
Speaker 10: the overcome could have far reaching implications.

2226
01:55:31,507 --> 01:55:32,227
Speaker 11: For years to come.

2227
01:55:32,747 --> 01:55:35,867
Speaker 3: Indeed, yeah, quite the story, as you say, leone will

2228
01:55:35,947 --> 01:55:37,787
Speaker 3: keep eyes on it. Let's go to Major League Baseball

2229
01:55:37,827 --> 01:55:40,107
Speaker 3: before we hit the football news. Last week of the

2230
01:55:40,147 --> 01:55:43,627
Speaker 3: regular season, who are the genuine contenders to win the

2231
01:55:43,707 --> 01:55:45,187
Speaker 3: Baseball World Series this year?

2232
01:55:46,347 --> 01:55:48,387
Speaker 10: Yes, So, the grueling one hundred and sixty two game

2233
01:55:48,427 --> 01:55:51,547
Speaker 10: regular season finally comes to a closed Tuesday week and

2234
01:55:51,667 --> 01:55:53,227
Speaker 10: there are a number of teams at the top of

2235
01:55:53,307 --> 01:55:56,507
Speaker 10: a heat leaping into October. So in the American League,

2236
01:55:56,787 --> 01:55:59,547
Speaker 10: the Toronto Blue Jays lead the conference, then the New

2237
01:55:59,627 --> 01:56:03,507
Speaker 10: York Yankees, the Seattle Mariners and Detroit Tigers for third,

2238
01:56:03,747 --> 01:56:06,107
Speaker 10: and the Boston Red Sox and Houston asher Is tight

2239
01:56:06,147 --> 01:56:09,107
Speaker 10: for fourth, rounding up the top contenders. Over in the

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Speaker 10: National League, the top five teams see the Milwaukee Brewers

2241
01:56:12,067 --> 01:56:17,067
Speaker 10: leading the conference, closely followed by the Philadelphia Police, Chicago Cubs,

2242
01:56:17,227 --> 01:56:21,227
Speaker 10: LA Dodgers, and the San Diego Padres. Of note, the

2243
01:56:21,347 --> 01:56:24,267
Speaker 10: Brewers lead all teams in terms of run differential with

2244
01:56:24,387 --> 01:56:27,747
Speaker 10: a dominant plus one eighty four. The next closest are

2245
01:56:27,787 --> 01:56:30,587
Speaker 10: the Yankees fifty one runs behind. So the brew crew

2246
01:56:30,627 --> 01:56:33,587
Speaker 10: have a great opportunity, Piney to dethrone the Dodgers, who

2247
01:56:33,627 --> 01:56:36,107
Speaker 10: have the most stacked and deep roster than any other

2248
01:56:36,187 --> 01:56:38,987
Speaker 10: side of the majors of season should be a compelling postseason.

2249
01:56:39,027 --> 01:56:42,107
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, now you've picked out three active players who have

2250
01:56:42,267 --> 01:56:44,147
Speaker 3: been in the past and may well be matched one

2251
01:56:44,147 --> 01:56:45,267
Speaker 3: as again this October.

2252
01:56:46,587 --> 01:56:49,067
Speaker 10: Yep. So there's a couple of standout individuals heading into

2253
01:56:49,107 --> 01:56:51,627
Speaker 10: October one. I mentioned last time I was on as

2254
01:56:51,707 --> 01:56:55,227
Speaker 10: catcher for the Seattle Mariners Caleb Rally in the American League.

2255
01:56:55,507 --> 01:56:57,947
Speaker 10: So earlier this week Cal went yard as they say,

2256
01:56:58,027 --> 01:57:01,107
Speaker 10: and becoming only the twenty first batter and Major League

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01:57:01,147 --> 01:57:04,387
Speaker 10: Baseball history that had fifty four plus home runs in

2258
01:57:04,427 --> 01:57:07,827
Speaker 10: a single season and also as a catcher. Even more

2259
01:57:07,867 --> 01:57:11,307
Speaker 10: impressive was he tied Yankees great Hall of Famer Mickey

2260
01:57:11,387 --> 01:57:13,667
Speaker 10: Mantle for the most home runs by a switch hitter.

2261
01:57:14,067 --> 01:57:15,867
Speaker 10: That's the batter who can hit from both sides of

2262
01:57:15,907 --> 01:57:18,987
Speaker 10: the plate, which is verified here. Today, Raleigh has ten

2263
01:57:19,187 --> 01:57:22,387
Speaker 10: multi home run games in twenty twenty five, just one

2264
01:57:22,547 --> 01:57:25,587
Speaker 10: shy of playing the Major League Baseball record. It's also

2265
01:57:25,627 --> 01:57:28,467
Speaker 10: a two horse race between Raleigh and Yankee Sager Aaron

2266
01:57:28,547 --> 01:57:31,667
Speaker 10: Judge with the American League mvyper Water, which will go

2267
01:57:31,787 --> 01:57:34,867
Speaker 10: down to the wire. Judges previously picked up the prestigious

2268
01:57:34,867 --> 01:57:38,107
Speaker 10: award twice in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four.

2269
01:57:38,547 --> 01:57:40,787
Speaker 10: The other player and often seen as the face of

2270
01:57:40,827 --> 01:57:44,427
Speaker 10: the league, Johey Eltini from the defending champion LA Dodgers

2271
01:57:44,467 --> 01:57:46,867
Speaker 10: in the National League. So earlier this week, he set

2272
01:57:46,987 --> 01:57:50,867
Speaker 10: more MLB history, becoming the first player to record fifty

2273
01:57:50,987 --> 01:57:54,587
Speaker 10: strikeouts and fifty home runs in a single season. He

2274
01:57:54,627 --> 01:57:57,067
Speaker 10: achieved the feet in the same game. That's crazy so

2275
01:57:57,067 --> 01:58:00,147
Speaker 10: that two nights ago, Showtime also hit a go ahead

2276
01:58:00,227 --> 01:58:03,907
Speaker 10: bomb a fifty second home run, again proving he's easily

2277
01:58:04,027 --> 01:58:06,907
Speaker 10: the best two way player in the game, phenom for

2278
01:58:07,027 --> 01:58:11,107
Speaker 10: his generations. And finally, Piney, after eighteen seasons with the

2279
01:58:11,227 --> 01:58:15,107
Speaker 10: LA Dodgers, eleven time All Star and three time National

2280
01:58:15,187 --> 01:58:18,547
Speaker 10: League Side Young Award winner Clayton Kershaw has decided to

2281
01:58:18,587 --> 01:58:20,507
Speaker 10: call it a day and hang up his cleats. The

2282
01:58:20,627 --> 01:58:22,987
Speaker 10: thirty seven year old Texan native and left handed pitcher

2283
01:58:23,107 --> 01:58:26,187
Speaker 10: is a double World Series champion and widely regarded as

2284
01:58:26,187 --> 01:58:28,947
Speaker 10: one of the greatest pitchers in baseball history, more so

2285
01:58:29,067 --> 01:58:32,067
Speaker 10: in the regular seasons. Piershaw is one of only ten

2286
01:58:32,187 --> 01:58:35,787
Speaker 10: twin sorry twenty pitchers and four lessties to record more

2287
01:58:35,827 --> 01:58:39,187
Speaker 10: than three thousand strikeouts in his pro career, with an

2288
01:58:39,227 --> 01:58:43,387
Speaker 10: ERA of only two points point five four a remarkable feed.

2289
01:58:43,667 --> 01:58:46,107
Speaker 10: He even threw a no hitter once back in twenty fourteen,

2290
01:58:46,467 --> 01:58:48,307
Speaker 10: a game in which the teen does not record had

2291
01:58:48,307 --> 01:58:51,187
Speaker 10: against the starting pitcher. The future First Ballot Wall of

2292
01:58:51,267 --> 01:58:54,787
Speaker 10: Famer will also be fondly remembered for his humanitarian and

2293
01:58:54,867 --> 01:58:58,107
Speaker 10: philanthropic work during a stellar Korean which, as overall earnings

2294
01:58:58,147 --> 01:59:01,827
Speaker 10: are estimated around US staggering five hundred and fifteen million

2295
01:59:01,947 --> 01:59:04,267
Speaker 10: Jew Zealand ozah. That's crazy. So I think it's better

2296
01:59:04,307 --> 01:59:06,787
Speaker 10: say pony that Cushaw won't be short of any money

2297
01:59:06,787 --> 01:59:09,787
Speaker 10: anytime as soon as is impending your tirement.

2298
01:59:10,747 --> 01:59:12,427
Speaker 3: I think you might be right. Let's go to football.

2299
01:59:12,507 --> 01:59:14,907
Speaker 3: College football is underway. Who are the teams to watch

2300
01:59:14,947 --> 01:59:15,787
Speaker 3: ym college football?

2301
01:59:16,947 --> 01:59:19,027
Speaker 10: Yes, the college football is into Week four already, and

2302
01:59:19,067 --> 01:59:20,707
Speaker 10: there are a number of teams from one hundred and

2303
01:59:20,747 --> 01:59:24,987
Speaker 10: thirty NCAA Division One ranks in the current narrative. Let's

2304
01:59:24,987 --> 01:59:26,547
Speaker 10: focus on those schools showing.

2305
01:59:26,387 --> 01:59:27,427
Speaker 11: Up every week.

2306
01:59:27,507 --> 01:59:30,107
Speaker 10: The top twenty five rankings are released by a selection

2307
01:59:30,267 --> 01:59:34,307
Speaker 10: committee made up of thirteen members based on previous weekend results,

2308
01:59:34,627 --> 01:59:37,627
Speaker 10: where teams can shift up and down dependent on their performances.

2309
01:59:38,027 --> 01:59:39,627
Speaker 10: If we look at just the top ten for now,

2310
01:59:39,707 --> 01:59:42,787
Speaker 10: we have the recognized powerhouse football programs leading the pack,

2311
01:59:43,267 --> 01:59:48,187
Speaker 10: the defending national champion Ohio State Buckeyes, Den State, Nittany Lyons,

2312
01:59:48,347 --> 01:59:53,267
Speaker 10: Louisiana State University or Alice You Tigers, Miami Florida Hurricanes,

2313
01:59:53,387 --> 02:00:00,067
Speaker 10: Georgia Bulldogs, Oregon Ducks, Florida State Seminoles, Texas Longhorns, Illinois

2314
02:00:00,147 --> 02:00:04,187
Speaker 10: Folly Fighting Illini as sort of pronounced it twice it's

2315
02:00:04,187 --> 02:00:06,267
Speaker 10: a hard one, and the Texas A and m Aggie

2316
02:00:06,427 --> 02:00:08,667
Speaker 10: rounding off the top ten. I've said love some of

2317
02:00:08,707 --> 02:00:12,307
Speaker 10: those names. Finding his team named don't terestfully though, Nine

2318
02:00:12,347 --> 02:00:14,827
Speaker 10: of the top ten teams are three and zero but

2319
02:00:14,987 --> 02:00:17,427
Speaker 10: the Texas Longhorns are two and one ahead of other

2320
02:00:17,507 --> 02:00:20,147
Speaker 10: schools below who are also unbeaten.

2321
02:00:20,187 --> 02:00:20,307
Speaker 7: Now.

2322
02:00:20,347 --> 02:00:22,347
Speaker 10: The reason for this is that the selection committee have

2323
02:00:22,387 --> 02:00:25,387
Speaker 10: a lot of different factors they consider before releasing the

2324
02:00:25,427 --> 02:00:28,867
Speaker 10: new rankings weekly. One of those is what's known as

2325
02:00:28,907 --> 02:00:32,467
Speaker 10: a team's strength of schedule, basically meaning a school can

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Speaker 10: still make the now twelve team national playoffs even if

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Speaker 10: they lose two games as they're playing schedule for the

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Speaker 10: season is much tougher than what some other schools have

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Speaker 10: to face. Also quickly, the last point on college before

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Speaker 10: the high trains surrounding Texas quarterback Arch Manning has flowed

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Speaker 10: considerably due to its underwhelming performances three games in the

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Speaker 10: air apparent from the first family of football. The Mannings

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Speaker 10: is under immense pressure from the long Horns fan base,

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Speaker 10: who are rightly demanding results. As Manning earns a healthy

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Speaker 10: twelve million New Zealand dollars annually throughout multiple nil endorse

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Speaker 10: it's easily the highest paid athlete in all of college sports. Thankfully,

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Speaker 10: as tr playing the unranked Sam Houston Bearcats I've never

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Speaker 10: heard of before today and an easy winner is on

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Speaker 10: the card, But the pressure ramps up for Manning in

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Speaker 10: the next two games, placing the Florida Gators away and

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Speaker 10: the resurgent Oklahoma as soon as at home. Will definitely

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Speaker 10: be watching closely pinting to see if he delivers or

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Speaker 10: if his stock continues to fall.

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Speaker 3: All right, we're running out of time, mate, But I

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Speaker 3: want to get a bit on the NFL. Can you

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Speaker 3: give us just a brief summer of where we are

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Speaker 3: three weeks in the AFC and the NFC.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 10: So there's a few teams that are at three or

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Speaker 10: no and a few that are two or no. But

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Speaker 10: the biggest talking point at the moment is about the

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Speaker 10: Kansas City Chiefs. Now it looks like their dynastic run

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Speaker 10: might be over. They're currently own two the first time

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Speaker 10: and you read the Pitcher Combs era and now beyond

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Speaker 10: the customer I've owned three is there on the road tomorrow.

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Speaker 10: The history shows that teams that start oh and two

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Speaker 10: have only a ten percent chance to make the playoffs,

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Speaker 10: and only one team an NFL history has ever had

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Speaker 10: the playoffs after starting out owen three. So if you

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Speaker 10: look at it, they're really up against it right now,

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Speaker 10: because as I said, they're on the road, they're open too.

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Speaker 10: They're facing oh and three and so there's a real

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Speaker 10: possibility that they won't make the finals. Also, the Cincinnati

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Speaker 10: Bengals have been hampered even though the two or no

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Speaker 10: because the star quarterback Joe Burrow is out for the

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Speaker 10: rest of the season after undergoing foot surgery. So again,

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Speaker 10: some of the top teams are against it. But if

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Speaker 10: we look at the favorite teams, I'm picking more likely

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Speaker 10: towards the Philadelphia Eagles, the Buffalo Bulls, the Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 10: are the top teams really and maybe the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 10: as well. To be able to get that Vince Lombardy

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Speaker 10: and lift it at the end of February.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful stuff. Leon, always enjoy chatting American sport with you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for your comprehensive rappers always. We'll do it

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Speaker 3: again soon. Leon Busby taking a state side on Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport eight Away from three.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every fail Weekend

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Speaker 1: Sport with Jason hin News Talk zemb.

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Speaker 3: Coming up four away from three. That's us on Weekend

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Speaker 3: Sport for today, end for the weekend. Just a reminder

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Speaker 3: next Saturday on the show, we are putting together a

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Speaker 3: five hour special from midday until five ahead of the

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Speaker 3: Bledisloe Cup test at Eden Park. The first three hours

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Speaker 3: will come to your Life from the Kingslander on New

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Speaker 3: North Road and then across to the Fan Zone on

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Speaker 3: Eden Parks out of Oval, So looking forward to a

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Speaker 3: five hour build up next Saturday. Huge thanks to Andy

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Speaker 3: McDonald for pulling the show together. As always, thanks to

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Speaker 3: you for listening in and for contributing. If that's what

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Speaker 3: out today with the gold medal Hamish cur at the

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Speaker 3: World Track and Field Champs and another world record for

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Speaker 3: ninety two criss cross jump see tomorrow night on Sports Talk.

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