1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,227 Speaker 1: from Newstalks'. 3 00:00:11,707 --> 00:00:15,347 Speaker 2: B Meantime will begin the sole GP season with a 4 00:00:15,467 --> 00:00:20,027 Speaker 2: negative points total following a review into a crash on 5 00:00:20,067 --> 00:00:22,027 Speaker 2: the opening day of racing in Perth yesterday. 6 00:00:22,107 --> 00:00:23,267 Speaker 1: It'll be the Bond. 7 00:00:23,147 --> 00:00:29,427 Speaker 2: Slaine rules option for the crashing the middle massive misjudgment 8 00:00:29,507 --> 00:00:30,827 Speaker 2: there by the Black Foils. 9 00:00:31,147 --> 00:00:33,627 Speaker 3: They did not have the right of way on Switzerland 10 00:00:33,667 --> 00:00:37,227 Speaker 3: and Sweitzerland maneuver onto starboard but then couldn't turn in. 11 00:00:37,347 --> 00:00:40,067 Speaker 1: Time and there's been a huge crass again. 12 00:00:40,267 --> 00:00:42,507 Speaker 2: Two there you go. Kiwi crew ruled out of the 13 00:00:42,507 --> 00:00:45,187 Speaker 2: weekend's action less than two legs into the first race 14 00:00:45,227 --> 00:00:48,467 Speaker 2: after that crash with Switzerland, and it saw their F 15 00:00:48,467 --> 00:00:52,267 Speaker 2: fifty catamaran badly damaged. Initially they were judged to be 16 00:00:52,307 --> 00:00:55,587 Speaker 2: at fault by the umpires. The Black Falls appealed that decision. 17 00:00:55,627 --> 00:00:58,507 Speaker 2: They were unable though to sway the umpires. They did 18 00:00:58,547 --> 00:01:00,947 Speaker 2: though limit the hit to their season Telly. They've been 19 00:01:00,987 --> 00:01:03,627 Speaker 2: hit with a three point penalty for their season count, 20 00:01:03,987 --> 00:01:06,387 Speaker 2: meaning that when the regatta ends they'll move in the 21 00:01:06,387 --> 00:01:09,907 Speaker 2: wrong direction on the scoreboard. Let's get you to Perth 22 00:01:09,947 --> 00:01:12,907 Speaker 2: to break this down with sailing analyst from the New 23 00:01:12,987 --> 00:01:16,027 Speaker 2: Zealand Herald, Chris Reeve Chris A. Red with interest your 24 00:01:16,067 --> 00:01:19,187 Speaker 2: analysis and explanation for this. Can you give us an 25 00:01:19,267 --> 00:01:21,347 Speaker 2: explanation what on earth happened? 26 00:01:22,507 --> 00:01:26,067 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very very high speed yesterday. The 27 00:01:26,107 --> 00:01:29,267 Speaker 3: wind here in Perth is beautiful for this sort of race, 28 00:01:29,307 --> 00:01:33,027 Speaker 3: and the boats are absolutely flying. And yeah, Switzerland made 29 00:01:33,067 --> 00:01:37,387 Speaker 3: a turn toward the right hand marker pretty late in 30 00:01:37,427 --> 00:01:40,107 Speaker 3: the leg. Basically they were just setting up. That was 31 00:01:40,147 --> 00:01:42,747 Speaker 3: their last maneuver before they got to the marker. So 32 00:01:43,027 --> 00:01:45,827 Speaker 3: they got onto starboard tack, which means they get right 33 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:49,987 Speaker 3: of way of oncoming boats, and the black foils they 34 00:01:49,987 --> 00:01:52,667 Speaker 3: were on the wrong side, had to give way and 35 00:01:52,867 --> 00:01:54,987 Speaker 3: it just looked like they didn't have enough time to 36 00:01:55,027 --> 00:01:58,507 Speaker 3: do so. The boats were going so fast, and yeah, 37 00:01:58,547 --> 00:02:00,227 Speaker 3: it did look for a second there like they might 38 00:02:00,267 --> 00:02:02,587 Speaker 3: have just been able to cross in front, but yeah, 39 00:02:02,627 --> 00:02:06,347 Speaker 3: not to be unfortunately. So the black fots were pretty adamant. 40 00:02:06,427 --> 00:02:09,547 Speaker 3: They couldn't have done any more than they did. And yeah, 41 00:02:09,587 --> 00:02:12,267 Speaker 3: they had a hearing yesterday after the racing. And yeah, 42 00:02:12,347 --> 00:02:14,267 Speaker 3: like you said before, it doesn't seem like they were 43 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:18,907 Speaker 3: able to sway the umpires too much. Unfortunately. So yeah, negative, 44 00:02:19,067 --> 00:02:22,467 Speaker 3: negative start to the year, which, yeah, it's probably as 45 00:02:22,507 --> 00:02:24,307 Speaker 3: bad as things could have gone for them. 46 00:02:24,947 --> 00:02:28,547 Speaker 2: You've reported that Black Falls driver Peter Berling said he 47 00:02:28,707 --> 00:02:32,587 Speaker 2: thought his team did everything possible to avoid an incident, 48 00:02:32,667 --> 00:02:37,067 Speaker 2: and also that the decision sets a worrying precedent moving forward. 49 00:02:37,067 --> 00:02:39,467 Speaker 2: Can you give us some more insight into how New 50 00:02:39,587 --> 00:02:40,667 Speaker 2: Zealand would have argued this. 51 00:02:42,067 --> 00:02:45,467 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess it's a case of how 52 00:02:45,547 --> 00:02:47,987 Speaker 3: fast the boats are going in a situation like that, 53 00:02:48,147 --> 00:02:50,747 Speaker 3: and I guess how much time they were given to 54 00:02:50,907 --> 00:02:55,707 Speaker 3: make an evasive maneuver. The Swiss reckon They probably had 55 00:02:55,707 --> 00:02:59,107 Speaker 3: about three seconds on starboard tack. But it's really hard 56 00:02:59,107 --> 00:03:01,827 Speaker 3: to know on these boats just how fast he going, 57 00:03:02,187 --> 00:03:05,027 Speaker 3: how much is involved in doing a maneuver, just how 58 00:03:05,107 --> 00:03:08,347 Speaker 3: much time they needed at sort of that pace. So 59 00:03:09,187 --> 00:03:11,467 Speaker 3: it will be interesting to see if we get similar 60 00:03:11,507 --> 00:03:14,667 Speaker 3: events like this in the future, what happens, whether you 61 00:03:14,707 --> 00:03:18,627 Speaker 3: see both teams getting penalized, whether it's just the team 62 00:03:18,707 --> 00:03:21,947 Speaker 3: deemed in the wrong. But yeah, it's it's a tough 63 00:03:21,947 --> 00:03:24,707 Speaker 3: one for the Black Force because yeah, like I said, 64 00:03:24,747 --> 00:03:29,667 Speaker 3: technically they were in the being on POTTEC. But yeah, 65 00:03:29,827 --> 00:03:32,947 Speaker 3: like Pete says, I don't know what more they could 66 00:03:32,947 --> 00:03:34,587 Speaker 3: have done going at the speeds they were. 67 00:03:35,227 --> 00:03:38,947 Speaker 2: It seems uncharacteristic too, Chris' you've watched a lot of 68 00:03:39,027 --> 00:03:42,507 Speaker 2: sale GP. In fact, you've probably watched every sale GP race. 69 00:03:42,547 --> 00:03:46,227 Speaker 2: I can't remember too many erarors of this sort by 70 00:03:46,307 --> 00:03:48,627 Speaker 2: New Zealand. They sometimes don't get the start right or 71 00:03:49,147 --> 00:03:51,747 Speaker 2: or whatever. But can you remember another incident like. 72 00:03:51,747 --> 00:03:57,067 Speaker 3: This, not like a proper crash Off the top of 73 00:03:57,107 --> 00:04:00,427 Speaker 3: my head, They've had a few sort of boat malfunctions 74 00:04:00,467 --> 00:04:04,947 Speaker 3: in the past, but nothing quite this substantial that I 75 00:04:04,987 --> 00:04:08,267 Speaker 3: can pinpoint right now. I was talking to one of 76 00:04:08,267 --> 00:04:12,467 Speaker 3: the guys yesterday. I believe they were one of the 77 00:04:12,507 --> 00:04:16,547 Speaker 3: only teams who didn't pick up season penalty points last year. 78 00:04:16,867 --> 00:04:20,427 Speaker 3: They're generally pretty good at getting around the course unscathed, 79 00:04:20,507 --> 00:04:24,947 Speaker 3: which is yeah, pretty hard to do with now. Well, 80 00:04:24,987 --> 00:04:27,107 Speaker 3: they're supposed to be thirteen boats on the course, but 81 00:04:27,747 --> 00:04:30,507 Speaker 3: yesterday there was twelve, And yeah, the courses aren't getting 82 00:04:30,507 --> 00:04:33,387 Speaker 3: any bigger. But yeah, they do find a way to 83 00:04:33,867 --> 00:04:37,307 Speaker 3: get the boat around cleanly, which is really really important 84 00:04:37,307 --> 00:04:38,027 Speaker 3: in the spot. 85 00:04:38,507 --> 00:04:41,347 Speaker 2: Is there enough time to fix the boat before SALGP 86 00:04:41,907 --> 00:04:42,907 Speaker 2: in Auckland. 87 00:04:44,427 --> 00:04:48,147 Speaker 3: Well, we hope so right. It would be a very 88 00:04:48,187 --> 00:04:50,467 Speaker 3: big shame to not have the Kiwi boat on the 89 00:04:50,467 --> 00:04:53,987 Speaker 3: water in Auckland. I was talking to Bleachook yesterday who 90 00:04:53,987 --> 00:04:57,587 Speaker 3: said he's you know, they do feel like they'll get 91 00:04:57,627 --> 00:05:00,547 Speaker 3: the boat back on Auckland. The SALGP team down here, 92 00:05:00,547 --> 00:05:03,347 Speaker 3: who I guess do all the repairs and stuff. They 93 00:05:03,347 --> 00:05:06,987 Speaker 3: are very good at getting boats fixed quickly and getting 94 00:05:06,987 --> 00:05:08,667 Speaker 3: them back on the water. So they'll be in the 95 00:05:08,707 --> 00:05:12,507 Speaker 3: shed all day today working on that boat, and they're 96 00:05:12,507 --> 00:05:16,427 Speaker 3: trying to just get things in order, get the get 97 00:05:16,427 --> 00:05:18,987 Speaker 3: the back back on it and get it firing again 98 00:05:19,147 --> 00:05:22,387 Speaker 3: so the Kiwis can try and turn things around at home. 99 00:05:22,907 --> 00:05:26,987 Speaker 2: So they'll be minus three on the on the points table, 100 00:05:27,027 --> 00:05:29,707 Speaker 2: which obviously will have them bottom. But it's only the 101 00:05:29,747 --> 00:05:32,667 Speaker 2: first regatta, isn't it, Chris, This isn't This isn't a 102 00:05:32,787 --> 00:05:36,467 Speaker 2: terminal blow. While it's you know, more than slightly inconvenient, 103 00:05:36,547 --> 00:05:39,987 Speaker 2: it's not going to to jettison or to really you know, 104 00:05:40,107 --> 00:05:45,347 Speaker 2: torpedo their chances of finishing high up and making that 105 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:47,187 Speaker 2: three boat final at the other end of the year, 106 00:05:47,267 --> 00:05:47,467 Speaker 2: is it. 107 00:05:48,347 --> 00:05:52,587 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think minus three is certainly manageable for this team. 108 00:05:52,667 --> 00:05:55,267 Speaker 3: They have shown they can win in this league and 109 00:05:55,507 --> 00:05:59,307 Speaker 3: do it pretty consistently on all sorts of conditions and 110 00:05:59,387 --> 00:06:02,707 Speaker 3: race courses, so I don't think they'll be worried too 111 00:06:02,827 --> 00:06:05,107 Speaker 3: much about starting in the negatives. Obviously it's not what 112 00:06:05,227 --> 00:06:08,787 Speaker 3: you want to be. But honestly, when I heard that 113 00:06:08,867 --> 00:06:11,667 Speaker 3: the umpires had judged the Black Foils to their fault, 114 00:06:11,667 --> 00:06:14,347 Speaker 3: I thought it would have been worse the penalty they got. 115 00:06:14,387 --> 00:06:18,907 Speaker 3: I started looking at all the specifics as to sort 116 00:06:18,947 --> 00:06:21,707 Speaker 3: of where they might have judged that crash, whether it 117 00:06:21,747 --> 00:06:26,667 Speaker 3: was just collision causing damage or collision causing serious damage, 118 00:06:26,707 --> 00:06:29,587 Speaker 3: which obviously you get penalized more for. So I think 119 00:06:29,627 --> 00:06:33,067 Speaker 3: it fell sort of in the middle range, which yeah, 120 00:06:33,067 --> 00:06:35,787 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's certainly manageable. It's 121 00:06:35,867 --> 00:06:37,787 Speaker 3: not good, but it's not the end of the world 122 00:06:37,827 --> 00:06:38,307 Speaker 3: for the team. 123 00:06:39,027 --> 00:06:43,427 Speaker 2: First time SALGP has been in Western Australia, the famous 124 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:48,227 Speaker 2: Freemantle Doctor phirly iconic sailing location as well. What's it 125 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:49,027 Speaker 2: been like there. 126 00:06:49,827 --> 00:06:52,467 Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Yeah, that's a great spot. I've neeriously 127 00:06:52,507 --> 00:06:55,187 Speaker 3: been to Perth, but the view r here in Fremantle 128 00:06:55,387 --> 00:07:00,227 Speaker 3: is pretty good. You get all the racetrack, the wind 129 00:07:00,427 --> 00:07:03,027 Speaker 3: is it comes in nicely in the afternoon, just in 130 00:07:03,067 --> 00:07:05,987 Speaker 3: time for racing. There's been a little bit of sea 131 00:07:06,027 --> 00:07:07,787 Speaker 3: state as well, which we haven't seen a lot in 132 00:07:07,867 --> 00:07:10,707 Speaker 3: sal GP, so it's been interesting to see how the 133 00:07:10,747 --> 00:07:14,747 Speaker 3: teams sort of navigate that as well as the breeze. 134 00:07:14,787 --> 00:07:16,787 Speaker 3: It looks like it's not going to be quite so 135 00:07:16,907 --> 00:07:19,347 Speaker 3: bumpy today, but it is expected to get a little 136 00:07:19,347 --> 00:07:22,707 Speaker 3: bit windier, so it should be more great racing again, 137 00:07:23,107 --> 00:07:25,427 Speaker 3: it's a great course. I'm glad they came out here. 138 00:07:25,827 --> 00:07:29,107 Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah. It seems like a popular redition apart from 139 00:07:29,307 --> 00:07:32,547 Speaker 2: with the black foils to the SOLEGP calendar. Thanks for 140 00:07:32,667 --> 00:07:35,427 Speaker 2: insight and analysis, Chris, Travel safe, enjoy the rest of 141 00:07:35,467 --> 00:07:36,867 Speaker 2: your time there. We'll see you in Auckland in a 142 00:07:36,867 --> 00:07:38,187 Speaker 2: month or so. 143 00:07:38,187 --> 00:07:40,187 Speaker 3: Sounds good, mate, So Seela. 144 00:07:40,267 --> 00:07:42,987 Speaker 2: Chris Reef read them at enzed heerld dot co dot enz. 145 00:07:43,867 --> 00:07:48,507 Speaker 2: His sailing copy analysis inside is terrific, so you'll you'll 146 00:07:48,507 --> 00:07:51,667 Speaker 2: find out how it goes. SOALGP he's obviously over there 147 00:07:51,827 --> 00:07:56,427 Speaker 2: specifically covering New Zealand. That won't be happening for the 148 00:07:56,427 --> 00:08:00,627 Speaker 2: rest of this regatta, but Auckland February fourteen, fifteen for 149 00:08:00,707 --> 00:08:05,347 Speaker 2: Sole GP Auckland, much bigger, grandstand, more viewing areas. Tickets 150 00:08:05,387 --> 00:08:07,907 Speaker 2: are selling really fast as I understand it, and I 151 00:08:07,947 --> 00:08:10,627 Speaker 2: get the feeling that the Black Foils will now be 152 00:08:10,747 --> 00:08:14,627 Speaker 2: doubly determined, won't they to put on a show at 153 00:08:14,707 --> 00:08:18,347 Speaker 2: salgp Auckland. Look forward to bringing you Weekend Sport from 154 00:08:18,787 --> 00:08:22,507 Speaker 2: on location on the weekend of February fourteenth and fifteen. 155 00:08:23,267 --> 00:08:26,467 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 156 00:08:26,547 --> 00:08:29,867 Speaker 1: to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow 157 00:08:29,907 --> 00:08:31,507 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.