1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: From one set a good news to a whole bunch 2 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: of more good news. The Mill Road upgrade in South 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Auckland is one step closer to actually happening. What's happened 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: here is that the NZTA Board has approved about ninety 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: one million dollars and that money is going to be 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: used to complete the design and then secure consents for 7 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: stage one of the upgrade. Now, this road is the 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: one that one of the ones that Grant Robertson famously 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: promised and then famously cut. Chris Bishop is currently the 10 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: Minister of Transport Bush. 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Hello. 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Hello, So you guys going to toll this? 13 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 2: Are you? We will told it. Yeah. 14 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 3: Look, all of the new roads of natural significance we 15 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: want to build around the country, we've said as a 16 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: starting point, they will be told. And that's because it's 17 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: a way of bringing forward the investment and allowing the 18 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 3: users who use the road to help pay for the 19 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: cost of the road. 20 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, can I can see that that makes 21 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: complete sense if you're actually building a new road. But 22 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: you're not building a new road here, right, You're just 23 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: upgrading an existing road. Do you think you're going to 24 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: get the backs up of people who currently use this road. 25 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: Mill Road will be a largely four lane offline new 26 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: road once it's built in its entirety, it will be 27 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 3: a twenty one and a half kilometer new road from 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: Menikau to Drury and the existing Mill Road will become 29 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: a local road administered by the Auckland Council. So you 30 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: know Mill Road at the moment, anyone who's putting mill 31 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: know we're going to have two mil roads? Well yeah, 32 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 3: I mean yes, when we people talk about the Mill 33 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 3: Road road, it is essentially a new four lane offline 34 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: highway connecting Manacaw and Drewy in its entirety. That the 35 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 3: first stage that the Board has approved the investment case 36 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: for is about six and a half seven kilometers and 37 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 3: that's what they're getting on with now. And then obviously 38 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 3: stages two and three are a bit further away, and 39 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: there's a whole bunch of design work and consenting and 40 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: designations to go through around that. 41 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been talking about this now for a fair bit. 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: When are you guys actually going to start? 43 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: Hoping to start construction mid to late twenty twenty six. 44 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: Stage one has had designations in place since I think 45 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: it goes all the way back to twenty nineteen, actually 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: even twenty sixteen. 47 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: So talked about for a long time. 48 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: A lot of work's been done on stage one, got 49 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: the designations in place. They'll get on with consenting, you know, 50 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: later in this year, and then it will almost certainly 51 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: use the fast track approvals at regime for the consenting 52 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 3: and then hoping to start construction late next year. We're 53 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: getting on with the detailed consenting and design work right now. 54 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 2: So it's good progress. 55 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: You know, we're not there yet, you know, these things 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 3: go on stages, but it's good progress. 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: Thrilled. 58 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: Now, listen, if you caught up on this High Court decision, 59 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: re yourselves. 60 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: In movement, what the judicial review of the speed limit changes. 61 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: So these guys are the ones who tried to stop 62 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: you guys from lifting the speed limits back up. They 63 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: took it to the High Court and they've just been 64 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: basically had the thing tossed out, haven't they. 65 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they took an interim well they applied for 66 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 3: an interim ruling to essentially try and stop us, and 67 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: that they are understanding is they lost in the High Court, 68 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: but there's a full hearing later in the year. 69 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, okay, well, what does this initial hearing, 70 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: then mean. 71 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: It means that the speed limit changes are going ahead. 72 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: I see. 73 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: Sorry, So there is the substantive hearing later in the year, 74 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: but in the meantime they were trying to stop you, 75 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: and now they've basically they can't stop you. So you're 76 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: just going to go full speed ahead. Well, you just 77 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: got to get a whole bunch done before the next hearing. 78 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, I mean they sought what's called on 79 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: as I understand it, they thought what's called an interim injunction, 80 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: which would essentially have been a stay on us going 81 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: ahead with the speed limit changes, and the councils too, 82 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: by the way, because it's both state highways and the 83 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: council controlled. 84 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 2: Roads as well. 85 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 3: And there's a there's a substantive hearing later in the year, 86 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: and you know they'll play outs that don't want to 87 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: comment on that. But you know, obviously they lost in 88 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: the interim hearing. 89 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you must be feeling pretty stoked that they lost, 90 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: right this, This this obviously sets the scene for you 91 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: to just win when the next one. 92 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 3: I would have thought, well, look, our position is that 93 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: we you know, it was actually some me and Brown 94 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: who did it, But now it's a government move. You know, 95 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: we changed the setting of speed limit rule, which is 96 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: one of these technical rules that you know applies to 97 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 3: both ENTERTA in terms of state highways and also councils 98 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: as road controlling authoritais. We went through a very proper 99 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: process to change it. There was consultation, there was a 100 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: proper process through the cabinet process. 101 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: And yeah, when we stand by what we did, and 102 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: we stand by. 103 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: The decisions to reverse Labour's blankets speed limit reductions. 104 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: And you know it's going down really well around the country. 105 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: You know, you just think about that section of State 106 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 3: Highway too over in the wire wrapper, you know, Featherston 107 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: to Carleton to Masters and it went down to eighty 108 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: k it's basically flat road. You know, that's gone back 109 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 3: up to one hundred and a whole bunch around the 110 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 3: country that have gone back up. 111 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think it's been very popular. Brilliant. 112 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: Hey, listen, Bish, thanks very much for talking to us. 113 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Appreciate There's Chris Bishop, the Minister of Transport. For more 114 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: from Heather Duplessy, Allen Drive listen live to news talks. 115 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow the podcast 116 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio,