1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,733 Speaker 1: from news Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,013 --> 00:00:15,373 Speaker 2: Mike Yardley is the man with the toughest job in 4 00:00:15,373 --> 00:00:17,973 Speaker 2: the business SAT Travel, corresponding, Good morning sir. 5 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:19,733 Speaker 3: Good morning Jack. 6 00:00:19,773 --> 00:00:23,973 Speaker 4: I've been drawling over your gyushing about to meet Treason 7 00:00:24,093 --> 00:00:25,453 Speaker 4: christ Church today. 8 00:00:25,973 --> 00:00:30,213 Speaker 2: Reason and surely as I do. 9 00:00:30,973 --> 00:00:34,173 Speaker 4: Yes, No, I totally agree. The one tip I would give, 10 00:00:34,613 --> 00:00:37,373 Speaker 4: whether you're a local or visiting christ Church, do not 11 00:00:37,533 --> 00:00:41,773 Speaker 4: go there and order order on the phone or online because, 12 00:00:42,013 --> 00:00:45,133 Speaker 4: as Sam said to you, yeah, the cues, the lines 13 00:00:45,133 --> 00:00:46,493 Speaker 4: at riverside can be crazy. 14 00:00:46,573 --> 00:00:48,853 Speaker 2: They can be crazy. Yeah, I mean they're crazy for 15 00:00:48,933 --> 00:00:51,453 Speaker 2: good reason as well. It's not just time, it's good reason. 16 00:00:51,493 --> 00:00:53,853 Speaker 2: But that's a very very good tip. Ordering online so 17 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 2: you can just turn up and have it two minutes beforehand, 18 00:00:57,133 --> 00:01:02,333 Speaker 2: have it passed hot? Yes too? Right, Yeah, forty years 19 00:01:02,413 --> 00:01:06,773 Speaker 2: that's crazy, isn't that brilliant? Yeah, it's amazing. You know, 20 00:01:06,813 --> 00:01:10,333 Speaker 2: it just shows, you know, if you've got a winning combination, 21 00:01:10,653 --> 00:01:12,493 Speaker 2: there's always going to be demanded. Yeah, as far as 22 00:01:12,453 --> 00:01:15,693 Speaker 2: I'm con said it, that's so true. Anyway, we're casting 23 00:01:15,893 --> 00:01:18,493 Speaker 2: our attention a little further afield this morning to the 24 00:01:18,533 --> 00:01:21,853 Speaker 2: bytes and sights in Paris, And is your sense that 25 00:01:21,973 --> 00:01:26,133 Speaker 2: Paris is falling prey to over tourism. 26 00:01:27,733 --> 00:01:34,653 Speaker 4: Yes, it is pumping and interestingly, unlike New Zealand, Paris 27 00:01:34,693 --> 00:01:38,973 Speaker 4: didn't really miss a beat post COVID, it just rocketed back. 28 00:01:39,053 --> 00:01:43,373 Speaker 4: So like they've had over fifty million tourists pouring into 29 00:01:43,413 --> 00:01:46,653 Speaker 4: the city this year, and a lot of that's probably 30 00:01:46,653 --> 00:01:49,053 Speaker 4: on the back of the Olympics last year, but for 31 00:01:49,253 --> 00:01:52,493 Speaker 4: many months of the year, Jack, Paris resembles a hot 32 00:01:52,493 --> 00:01:56,053 Speaker 4: mess of humanity. I was there a fortnight ago, way 33 00:01:56,093 --> 00:01:59,853 Speaker 4: outside the pic tourism season. It was still lively, but 34 00:02:00,133 --> 00:02:03,493 Speaker 4: definitely more manageable. So I reckon if you are planning 35 00:02:03,493 --> 00:02:07,853 Speaker 4: a fling with Paris, it's now a cool Haitian destination. 36 00:02:08,093 --> 00:02:12,933 Speaker 4: You know, go October to March, rug up rave the elements. 37 00:02:13,213 --> 00:02:15,053 Speaker 3: You will have so much more room to move. 38 00:02:15,133 --> 00:02:19,133 Speaker 4: But definitely May June, July, August, September, steer clear. 39 00:02:20,133 --> 00:02:22,893 Speaker 2: Very good tip. So how is the crowd crush at 40 00:02:22,893 --> 00:02:24,213 Speaker 2: the Notre Dame Cathedral. 41 00:02:25,213 --> 00:02:28,453 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting because it is rivaling the Eiffel Tower 42 00:02:28,493 --> 00:02:32,653 Speaker 4: for supreme attraction status on the back of its restoration. 43 00:02:32,853 --> 00:02:36,733 Speaker 4: So they've had over fifteen million tourists through the masterpiece 44 00:02:36,773 --> 00:02:39,773 Speaker 4: so far this year to check out how to spend 45 00:02:39,813 --> 00:02:44,173 Speaker 4: a billion dollars, and as has been the case for 46 00:02:44,213 --> 00:02:47,333 Speaker 4: eight hundred and sixty years, notret arm is free. It's 47 00:02:47,413 --> 00:02:49,373 Speaker 4: open to all, so you don't have to buy a ticket. 48 00:02:50,333 --> 00:02:53,853 Speaker 4: But it's once again it's dodging the crowds as the issue. 49 00:02:53,933 --> 00:02:57,253 Speaker 4: So my tip would be head there at the very 50 00:02:57,293 --> 00:03:01,133 Speaker 4: start of day, go to the eight o'clock morning mess 51 00:03:01,653 --> 00:03:04,333 Speaker 4: and you will be straight in. So it's only a 52 00:03:04,333 --> 00:03:08,653 Speaker 4: thirty minute service. The mess an express service, but it's 53 00:03:08,693 --> 00:03:12,493 Speaker 4: such a really good way to savor the building in 54 00:03:12,533 --> 00:03:16,613 Speaker 4: the morning, crowd free, calm, it's just so much more rewarding. 55 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:20,013 Speaker 2: And now that that restoration has been completed, just how 56 00:03:20,053 --> 00:03:21,173 Speaker 2: impressive does it look. 57 00:03:22,413 --> 00:03:25,453 Speaker 4: It is astonishing, Jack I Reckon, it's like time travel 58 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:29,013 Speaker 4: because I remember I was there probably seven eight years ago, 59 00:03:29,173 --> 00:03:34,893 Speaker 4: and the interior was black. Now it is so pure 60 00:03:35,053 --> 00:03:39,613 Speaker 4: and creamy. Eight hundred years of grime and soot from 61 00:03:39,653 --> 00:03:42,813 Speaker 4: burning candles has been removed, so you just see this 62 00:03:42,973 --> 00:03:44,893 Speaker 4: buttery hue of limestone. 63 00:03:44,933 --> 00:03:46,613 Speaker 3: It's absolutely astonishing. 64 00:03:46,933 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 4: The other thing that blew me away just all of 65 00:03:49,293 --> 00:03:54,053 Speaker 4: the specialist craftsmanship, like the two thousand. 66 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:56,413 Speaker 3: Oak trees that were cut across. 67 00:03:55,973 --> 00:04:01,613 Speaker 4: France and then hand cut into beams and trusses. Using 68 00:04:01,693 --> 00:04:07,293 Speaker 4: medieval tools. They apparently mined a thousand cuba meters of 69 00:04:07,453 --> 00:04:11,333 Speaker 4: limestone that was then chiseled into all of the leaping 70 00:04:11,453 --> 00:04:13,893 Speaker 4: arches and the grinning gargoyle as you can see now. 71 00:04:13,973 --> 00:04:17,773 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's like a temple to traditional craft and 72 00:04:18,253 --> 00:04:21,093 Speaker 4: you just walk around with your with your mouth wide open. 73 00:04:21,933 --> 00:04:25,733 Speaker 2: As yeah, we're speaking of if you're looking for some 74 00:04:25,853 --> 00:04:28,413 Speaker 2: signature eat in Paris, what would be the key to here? 75 00:04:28,453 --> 00:04:33,333 Speaker 4: Great crop monsieur, the ultimate comfort food. It's like the 76 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:37,653 Speaker 4: dimitries of Paris, isn't it So? Yes, along with your 77 00:04:37,653 --> 00:04:42,613 Speaker 4: smoked ham and your Dijon mustard. The essential element as 78 00:04:43,133 --> 00:04:46,613 Speaker 4: molten green year cheese, it's got to be the gree 79 00:04:46,733 --> 00:04:51,573 Speaker 4: year because it melts smoothly and evenly, and that delivers 80 00:04:51,613 --> 00:04:54,813 Speaker 4: that gooey and stretchy consistency. 81 00:04:54,933 --> 00:04:56,173 Speaker 3: So that is the kicker. 82 00:04:56,493 --> 00:04:58,613 Speaker 4: I noticed by the way that a lot of people 83 00:04:58,653 --> 00:05:03,613 Speaker 4: in Paris are having kroc Madan, which is equally as popular. 84 00:05:03,773 --> 00:05:08,173 Speaker 4: The added extra is a Friday egg crowning your croc. 85 00:05:08,293 --> 00:05:10,733 Speaker 4: So it's actually a really good breakfast option. 86 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:15,453 Speaker 2: A Krock, Madame, Yeah, what about sweet treats? Any standouts 87 00:05:15,453 --> 00:05:15,773 Speaker 2: for you? 88 00:05:16,973 --> 00:05:17,173 Speaker 3: Yeah. 89 00:05:17,373 --> 00:05:21,533 Speaker 4: I went to a place called Bistro Marbouf, which is 90 00:05:21,653 --> 00:05:24,613 Speaker 4: just off the Champsalise for French crapes, and they've been 91 00:05:24,653 --> 00:05:29,013 Speaker 4: pumping out crapes at Bistro Marbouf the centuries and it's 92 00:05:29,053 --> 00:05:32,853 Speaker 4: this lovely, elegant wood panel to bistro. So there were 93 00:05:32,893 --> 00:05:35,973 Speaker 4: a lot of locals in there chomping down on crapes 94 00:05:36,253 --> 00:05:38,733 Speaker 4: mid morning, sort of like a mid morning picked me up. 95 00:05:39,213 --> 00:05:43,653 Speaker 4: And apparently the biggest cellar in Paris are banana and 96 00:05:43,813 --> 00:05:47,373 Speaker 4: chocolate topped crapes, but I still reckon butter and sugar 97 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:49,733 Speaker 4: topped crapes is the way to go. And by the way, 98 00:05:49,773 --> 00:05:57,213 Speaker 4: just around the corner from Bistro Marbouf, Partisseri Perfection Luderray's flagship. 99 00:05:56,653 --> 00:05:57,773 Speaker 3: Venue on the Champsalise. 100 00:05:57,933 --> 00:06:01,253 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a calorific cannival of color this 101 00:06:01,413 --> 00:06:06,373 Speaker 4: place is and just food art galore. So if you're 102 00:06:06,613 --> 00:06:10,373 Speaker 4: of Macharn's, I'm not I find them ployingly sweet personally, 103 00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:13,213 Speaker 4: but if you are a fan, definitely go to Ladder 104 00:06:13,533 --> 00:06:14,693 Speaker 4: and Something Extra. 105 00:06:15,213 --> 00:06:17,413 Speaker 3: The pastry workshops there are. 106 00:06:17,293 --> 00:06:20,733 Speaker 4: Really popular, so you can you know, make a macharon 107 00:06:20,853 --> 00:06:23,173 Speaker 4: like an executive chef, but you do need to book 108 00:06:23,213 --> 00:06:24,013 Speaker 4: well in advance. 109 00:06:24,093 --> 00:06:27,253 Speaker 2: Okay, cool. So what are your favorite districts in Paris. 110 00:06:28,253 --> 00:06:32,053 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a big, sprawling city to stroll, so you've 111 00:06:32,093 --> 00:06:34,053 Speaker 4: got to do it in sort of bite sized bits. 112 00:06:34,093 --> 00:06:37,293 Speaker 4: I reckon, but the three Pockets. I really adore strolling 113 00:06:37,333 --> 00:06:41,813 Speaker 4: through the Opera district, which includes that sublime department store 114 00:06:41,853 --> 00:06:44,653 Speaker 4: Gallery Lafayette, and then you can see all of those 115 00:06:44,693 --> 00:06:49,973 Speaker 4: incredible boulevards designed by Houseman. I also really love San 116 00:06:50,053 --> 00:06:55,133 Speaker 4: Germain de Prey because it's just cafe hopping heaven, all 117 00:06:55,253 --> 00:06:59,773 Speaker 4: very leafy, lots of sheep boutiques. It's just quintessential powers 118 00:06:59,813 --> 00:07:04,013 Speaker 4: I reckon. But for the most distinctively different slice of Paris, 119 00:07:04,133 --> 00:07:07,293 Speaker 4: I know it's very touristy, but it is a rock 120 00:07:07,333 --> 00:07:11,613 Speaker 4: star Monmart with all those slinky lanes, the hilltop, perched, 121 00:07:11,693 --> 00:07:14,253 Speaker 4: the atmosphere and Renoi lived. 122 00:07:14,653 --> 00:07:16,253 Speaker 3: That's worth the walk up the hill. 123 00:07:16,413 --> 00:07:18,573 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was so good where they had the 124 00:07:19,453 --> 00:07:21,573 Speaker 2: Tour de Frances year, they raced up mo Mart and 125 00:07:21,773 --> 00:07:24,693 Speaker 2: was just like it was just yeah in the final 126 00:07:24,893 --> 00:07:27,453 Speaker 2: leg of the tour is so good. What would you 127 00:07:27,493 --> 00:07:29,453 Speaker 2: eat if you're stopping off a mo Mart, where would 128 00:07:29,453 --> 00:07:29,653 Speaker 2: you go? 129 00:07:30,613 --> 00:07:33,413 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had lunch at a place called Leamir Catherine, 130 00:07:33,413 --> 00:07:37,333 Speaker 4: which is right on the main square in Monmart. These guys, 131 00:07:37,733 --> 00:07:40,533 Speaker 4: and interestingly it won't blow your budget this place. But 132 00:07:40,613 --> 00:07:44,413 Speaker 4: these guys opened in the same year that Marie Antoinette 133 00:07:44,493 --> 00:07:48,973 Speaker 4: was gillotined seventeen ninety three. So I pondered that Jack 134 00:07:49,013 --> 00:07:53,933 Speaker 4: as I dismembered a plate of burgundy snails, huge shells, 135 00:07:54,413 --> 00:07:59,493 Speaker 4: massive shells, really small snails. So it's the first time 136 00:07:59,573 --> 00:08:05,773 Speaker 4: I have sampled gestropods. They tasted like squishy slivers of 137 00:08:05,933 --> 00:08:09,693 Speaker 4: fungi to me, so I'm not sold on them. But 138 00:08:09,773 --> 00:08:12,453 Speaker 4: they had a very sweet and happy ending. At Lemir Catherine. 139 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:16,013 Speaker 4: I had the fudge chocolate cake with custard cream. Oh 140 00:08:16,053 --> 00:08:18,693 Speaker 4: my god, go there, walk up the hill for that 141 00:08:18,813 --> 00:08:20,653 Speaker 4: fudge chocolate cake and custard cream. 142 00:08:20,733 --> 00:08:23,293 Speaker 2: So here is, in the space of two minutes, you've 143 00:08:23,293 --> 00:08:25,533 Speaker 2: told us that macarons are too sweet for your taste, 144 00:08:25,573 --> 00:08:29,133 Speaker 2: but you're recommending your sudge chocolate cake with custard cream, right, 145 00:08:29,253 --> 00:08:29,773 Speaker 2: I see. 146 00:08:29,653 --> 00:08:31,773 Speaker 3: Yes, I know there is a contradiction there. 147 00:08:32,133 --> 00:08:35,133 Speaker 2: That's all right, that's all right. No criticism from this end. Hey, 148 00:08:35,453 --> 00:08:38,213 Speaker 2: that sounds amazing. Things sounds wonderful. So we'll make sure 149 00:08:38,253 --> 00:08:40,493 Speaker 2: all of your hoop bites and sites in Paris are 150 00:08:40,613 --> 00:08:42,813 Speaker 2: up on the website and catch you again very soon. 151 00:08:43,573 --> 00:08:46,693 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 152 00:08:46,773 --> 00:08:49,573 Speaker 1: to news talks that'd be from nine am Saturday, or 153 00:08:49,653 --> 00:08:51,573 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.