1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Tell you what new Plymouth council has had absolute balls up. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the details. It's about GST and race. 3 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you the details. 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 2: Isn't every council in the country, right, Barry? 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: This is so this is so bad, Barry, you won't 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: believe the story. Hey, what's happening in Parliament? Today's citizens 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: arrest plans in the spotlight? 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Well, yes, you know this is this comes out of 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 2: Sunny Kershel's ministerial committee set up. But we still know 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: clearer on when this is going to be introduced that 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: we're told legislation will see it this year. But the 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: most trenchant criticism of it came in Parliament today by 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: the Maori parties Takatu Ferris, who says the law will 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: affect the Maori and Pacific Island community unfairly. You haven't 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: listened to his reasoning and the view of ax Nicole McKee, 16 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: who was standing in for the Justice Minister. 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 3: What assessment, if any, has he made of the racial 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 3: buyers already present and public perception of suspicious behavior and 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: how these new powers might embolden racial profiling and vigilanteism 20 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: against Mary and pacifica. 21 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: This is not about race. This is about crime. This 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 4: government does not mind what color creed or racer person is. 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: It's about the crime that's being committed and sending a 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: message we have had enough of people taking trolleys of 25 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 4: food and taking and stealing from the good, hard working 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: citizens of New Zealand. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, it's an easy for mister Ferris 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: if he wants to persuade Mary and Pacifica not to 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: take trolleys of food if they are the people that 30 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: are doing it more frequently. That's what he suggested in 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: his question. 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: I'd suggest, okay, what about councils. They're getting a bit 33 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: of a bollocking from the government at the moment, but 34 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: also told to just tie ho on the RMA. 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I reckon councils must feel a bit like Sonny 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: Bill Wyams did after as a boxing bolt last night, 37 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: a bit punch trunk. They're told to keep their rates 38 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: under control. Now they say they're being blindsided by the 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: government's call. Their meeting the local governments in New Zealanders 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 2: meeting in christ Church today, a lot of political imput 41 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 2: at that meeting. Now the government's calling for a halt 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: on planning work until the RMA changes. That'll be two 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: bills later this year, coming well before they're known exactly 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: how they're going to effect, what the plans are that 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: councils might be thinking about now. So it's a bit difficult. 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: So the government's saying everything should go in abeyance at 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: the moment, and how on earth a council is meant 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: to try and plan in the face of that is 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 2: difficult to see. The Government of the Government is currently consulting, 50 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 2: they say, over the reforms. The results of the consultation 51 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: will be introduced to Parliament later this year. And of 52 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: course the RIMA, that large doorstop document that was originally 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: written by our dear friend, Sir Jeffrey Palmer. Yeah, in fact, 54 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: that'll be reduced down to two bills. Let's hope they're 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: less than the tens of hundreds of pages they are. 56 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: At the moment in hope. So, hey, what David Seymour 57 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: got himself? When we say he's in hot water? It's 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: obviously there's a particular sector of the community that doesn't 59 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: like him. But what's he done this time? 60 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 2: Well again he was at the Local government conference and 61 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: he made what many have described was a colorful speech 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: and in fact he had written this speech and was 63 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: put out for all of us to read. But if 64 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: you read this speek in this speech and listen to 65 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: what he said, one didn't resemble the other because he 66 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: obviously threw his speech notes away before he got to 67 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: the local government council. But the meeting he called on 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: councils to ditcher what he described as puppy dogs and 69 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: ice cream their approach to focus. They should instead focus 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: on fixing pipes, roads and rubbish. And you know, I 71 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: think he's got a fair point. But where he really 72 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: upset a few feathers was when he said the karakia, 73 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: which is part of some resource consents that have to 74 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: be carried out, he said that is fluff and it 75 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't take place. And of course he is speaking. He 76 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 2: always claims as a moldy in these circumstances. But look, 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 2: he had a somewhat lighthearted way of telling journalists what's 78 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: behind is thinking. When it came to the kurake. 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 5: I don't expect a priest to show up every time 80 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: I break wind. Sorry, I don't expect a priest to 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 5: show up every time I break ground on a new building. 82 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 5: And I don't think that you need a comato or 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 5: to come and say a karakia either. 84 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: So you know, I mean, of course he's got he 85 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: knew he would upset people by saying. But nevertheless, it 86 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: is part of the resource consent. And I would imagine 87 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: that when we see the new Resource Management Act, maybe 88 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: these sorts of things will be swept aside. 89 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Explicitly excluded. Maybe, well, yes, I would think so, because otherwise, Yeah, 90 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting, isn't it. But I can understand if there's 91 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: like a really significant piece of land, you know, if 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: there's if there's if it's considered tapu or something like that. 93 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: But if you're doing and having to pay it to 94 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: get in the cutter care performed, and then you're going 95 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: to have to get the feed for the whole crew, 96 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: because that's what happens when you know, you have a 97 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: big work crew coming for a traffic light installation. 98 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? You've seen it happen 99 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: for that. 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: Sort of exactly. So I think there is some there 101 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: is a bit of truth in the in the complaint 102 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: about it. 103 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly when the law sees the way it should happen. 104 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: And you know, the cultural aspect is very important when 105 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: it comes to the resource management, Yes, but it's got 106 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 2: to be reason. 107 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: Got to be in line. 108 00:05:59,640 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 109 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: All right, Berry, thank you very much for that, very 110 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: so for senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib 111 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: Beat For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live 112 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: to news Talk zib from four pm weekdays, or follow 113 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.