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Speaker 2: Hello Green, New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two five nine for the eighth

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Speaker 2: of December. What topics didn't we get to today?

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Speaker 3: We were gonna have a chat about is the Christmas

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Speaker 3: holiday too long? And we're all a bunch of lazy

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Speaker 3: buggers and we need to get back to work early,

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Speaker 3: But we didn't get to it.

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Speaker 2: So great topic. Let's still it tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's on the cards tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So just booz and movies on the show today.

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Speaker 4: That's all you need for a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: There's always some great callers.

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the weak issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 3: News Talk said, be very good afternoon to you. Welcome

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Speaker 3: into Monday Show. Hopefully it was a up a weekend

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Speaker 3: for you wherever you are in this beautiful country of ours.

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Speaker 2: Get I Matt yet a tyler, get everyone, thanks for

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Speaker 2: tuning in fantastic weekends. On a personal note, I built

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Speaker 2: a couple of planter boxes with my good mate Mike.

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Speaker 2: That was fun, very hot, looks good.

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Speaker 4: I've got to say you showed me the we video slick.

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Speaker 2: I was calved in lotion, but still the back of

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Speaker 2: my neck took an absolute pounding from the sun.

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Speaker 4: Have you got one of those punishing hats that's got

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Speaker 4: the weed bill on the back.

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Speaker 2: Or no, no, no, no, I've got too much shame

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Speaker 2: for that. Hey, I've got a question for you.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 2: And this is something for people to think about across

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Speaker 2: the break with their families and such. This isn't what

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Speaker 2: we're talking about this hour, but it's just should Is

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Speaker 2: it rude to bring up politics? I was at a

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Speaker 2: thing in the weekend and someone came at me hard

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Speaker 2: with their politics, and it's just an assumption. So what

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Speaker 2: mate so I get it, or people that you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but just coming at a stranger hard with the opening lines?

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Speaker 2: I think I think it's no fun.

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Speaker 4: Oh it's the most awkward thing ever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you're supposed to just get into a

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Speaker 2: debate at that point, you know, blasting off at you

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Speaker 2: a bunch of things that are factually incorrect. You know,

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Speaker 2: at a barbecue is at the time where you're fact

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Speaker 2: checking people and coming back and forth, and you know,

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Speaker 2: isn't it a time for just stupid jokes and pleasantries.

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Speaker 3: Definitely keep barbicane, but keep politics out of the barbecue,

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Speaker 3: because that's the point. As soon as you bite back

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Speaker 3: and you want to have a bit of a debate

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Speaker 3: and maybe you push back on some of the things

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Speaker 3: that they're saying, you become the bad guy. All of

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Speaker 4: The night, so hack in a minute, someone.

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Speaker 3: Came at me with all this political chat. I just,

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Speaker 4: And that's the point. Never.

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Speaker 2: I think some people are so entrenched in their bubble

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Speaker 2: So it's like they're describing the weather. Yeah, but these

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I think, I think, I think maybe, unless you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now that's a rule we can all live by

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Speaker 3: this summer. Right on to today's show after three o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Big news over the weekend that Netflix is set to

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Speaker 3: acquire Warner Brothers and HBO Max And a one hundred

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Speaker 4: That is a huge deal. Obviously, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 4: Experience, showcases of the beauty and New Zealand that film.

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Speaker 2: Think seeing that in the movie theater was fantastic. But

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Speaker 2: Netflix want to stop all that? Yeah, what.

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Speaker 4: After two o'clock Now, the Prime Minister was grilled on

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Speaker 4: with a opinion piece from a guy called Toss Grumbley.

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Speaker 4: That's an unfortunate name, but he's a business advisor. Toss Grumley.

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Speaker 4: There must be a nickname, but he's a business advisor.

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Speaker 2: To get that name.

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Speaker 4: It's certain circles.

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Speaker 3: But he argued that the New Zealand summer break is

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Speaker 3: the summer break seems to be extending, leaving less room

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Speaker 3: And mentioned Prime Minister Christopher Luxen, and he tended to agree.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that. I always pushed back on productivity.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk about this later. I think it's kind of

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Speaker 2: That's just my personal opinion. I love to hear yours

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Speaker 4: You painted a beautiful picture.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but right now, let's have a chat about drinking

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Speaker 3: and the so called anti alcohol movement. So best Ellen.

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Speaker 3: Author American professor Scott Galloway. He was on real time

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Speaker 3: So they made the case that young men should be

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Speaker 5: The final thing I love that you said in the

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Speaker 5: book tip to men, drink more. Safety is important. You

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Speaker 5: can't overdo drinking. It is also, as you point out,

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Speaker 5: talking to other people and socializing. It's not to excess,

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Speaker 5: but yes, it's drinking a little bit, maybe sometimes a

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Speaker 6: The second worst thing to happen to young people is

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Speaker 6: remote work. One and three. Relationships begin at work. This

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Speaker 6: is where you find friends, mentors, and mates, and especially

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Speaker 6: young men need the guardrails of a workplace. But in

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Speaker 6: my view, the worst thing that's happened to young people

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Speaker 6: is the anti alcohol movement. I've had Huberman on who

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Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of an antion and my point

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a compelling argument. It's a neu compelling argument.

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Speaker 2: So is the worst thing to happen to young people

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Speaker 2: What are he's saying? And Professor Scott Galloway's very smart man,

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Speaker 2: fantastic author, incredibly successful businessman, a professor he still lectures

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Speaker 2: What he's really saying is that everything in life has

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Speaker 2: do you agree? Did did alcohol lead to connections both social, romantic,

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Speaker 2: just sort of glamorizes drinking and it ignores other ways

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Speaker 2: that people could me I'll read out a text again

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Speaker 2: You know, we go nationwide at one, so we have

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Speaker 4: We're not meant to talk about it, but we talk

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Speaker 2: We're supposed to talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know scret. Everybody knows I'm.

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Speaker 2: An honest guy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, got to be transparent.

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Speaker 2: This texter said, I would rather my son was out

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Speaker 2: that where he van where he is on Friday Saturday nights,

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Speaker 2: locked in his room, refusing to do anything. I would

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Speaker 2: happy to pick him up rotten than just seeing him rot.

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Speaker 2: So I thought was written quite nicely by this mum.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think about that? It's it's yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's a it's an interesting argument, and I think you

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Speaker 3: know the way he put it was incredibly compelling. But

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Speaker 3: a fair point that the risk so your liver, in

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Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon, tu you. Twenty one

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Speaker 10: Hey, Hey, you blend you. Hey. I'm reminded of something

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Speaker 10: And to me it's true as something that's actually had

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Speaker 10: Peter, Well, you know, there's the other thing is we

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Speaker 10: You know, I mean, ours have been around for two

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Speaker 10: There's nothing wrong with having to quiet be or a

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Speaker 10: It's when things go to excess that's when there's a problem. Now.

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Speaker 10: Society is right to say, hey, you know ty hooe.

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Speaker 10: But I think when society says, you know, with these

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Speaker 4: It is twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 13: Andrew Costa didn't voluntarily come and briech me. He was

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Speaker 3: Nine past one. Have we gone too far with been

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Speaker 2: Jeremy says, you're drinking, buddies are often just that they

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Speaker 2: was like, these people are not your friends. Yeah, they

436
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Speaker 2: are just you just all enabling each other.

437
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Speaker 3: Certainly can happen, but what I you know, I think

438
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Speaker 3: certainly for my friend's circle, maybe this isn't common. But

439
00:20:45,373 --> 00:20:48,213
Speaker 3: you reach a point where you know, drinking every weekend

440
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Speaker 3: is not going to fly anymore because you've got more responsibilities.

441
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Speaker 3: You're renting into adulthood, and that's where we're at at

442
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Speaker 3: the moment. But some of the best stories and situations

443
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Speaker 3: we've been in in our lives were when we went

444
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Speaker 3: out drinking and maybe went a little bit too far

445
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Speaker 3: in some aspects because are the things you laugh about,

446
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Speaker 3: and it's you know, I don't want to use this

447
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Speaker 3: analogy too strongly.

448
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Speaker 4: Came to brother and sisterhood in the military, that.

449
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Speaker 3: You go out there and you're a team and you

450
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Speaker 3: might make some poor decisions and you come out the

451
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Speaker 3: other side. I mean that is bonding at its highest level,

452
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Speaker 3: when you've got those stories and situations look back on

453
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Speaker 3: and say, jeepers, where I don't know how we got

454
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Speaker 3: into that situation, but we made it out. I mean,

455
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Speaker 3: that's where those friendships come from. I mean that those

456
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Speaker 3: are the guys I will still you know, the right

457
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Speaker 3: or die friends. And there's only if you're lucky, if

458
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Speaker 3: you've got a handful in your life. And those are

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Speaker 3: those guys in my life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this might sound hypocritical from a guy

461
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Speaker 2: who wrote a song called Beers and had a big

462
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Speaker 2: hit with it the Bandaja Voodoo. Great song, but equally,

463
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Speaker 2: some of the worst moments in your life are hangovers

464
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Speaker 2: from alcohol, and some of the worst things you do

465
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Speaker 2: in your life are when you've been drunk. The biggest mistakes,

466
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Speaker 2: the biggest cock ups, the biggest shames, and embarrassments of

467
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Speaker 2: your of your life.

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Speaker 4: Very true.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I guess that's why it's a good subject,

470
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Speaker 2: and it's firing people up because there's a lot of

471
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Speaker 2: grayary in there. I have three bears, and as a

472
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Speaker 2: result you have you meet someone lovely at a bar

473
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Speaker 2: and you would be too socially awkward to talk to

474
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Speaker 2: them without the bears, and then you go on to

475
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Speaker 2: create a family with them and have an incredibly wholesome

476
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Speaker 2: rest of your life. Then it's hard to poopoo, that,

477
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Speaker 2: isn't it. Yeah, yeah, exactly, But yeah, as I say,

478
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Speaker 2: if you get absolutely steamed end up shirtless fighting someone

479
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Speaker 2: on the street, it.

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Speaker 4: Can go both ways. But keen on your views.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty or a bit late,

482
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Speaker 3: so headlines coming up and then taking more of your calls.

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Speaker 3: It is twenty eight to two.

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Speaker 8: Jew's talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

485
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486
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Speaker 8: it's never too late to fix deep systemic issues leading

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Speaker 8: to child abuse, and just today launched a nationwide campaign

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Speaker 8: focused on prevention. The Prime ministers heralding figures showing we're

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Speaker 8: now exporting more than we import, alongside positive predictions from ASB,

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Speaker 8: which anticipates annual growth of more than two and a

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Speaker 8: half percent in the year ahead. Twenty five people have

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Speaker 8: died in a fire at a popular nightclub in India's

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Speaker 8: in a kitchen. Testings confirmed two key we found dead

495
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Speaker 8: on Stuart Island were not killed by ten eighty dropped

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497
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Speaker 8: drone strikes damage the protective radiation shield at Ukraine's at

498
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Speaker 8: Chernobyl nuclear reactor. Repairs are essential. A construction date's been

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Speaker 8: locked in for a new two lane bridge at Coramandle's Taidour,

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Speaker 8: replacing the one lane Pepez stream bridge by December of

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Speaker 8: twenty twenty seven. Why trust not growth may decide who

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Speaker 8: wins the twenty twenty six election. You can see the

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Speaker 8: full column at ends at Herald Premium. Now back to

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Speaker 8: matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Ray Lane.

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Speaker 3: So we have been talking about a message from our

507
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Speaker 3: professor Skogan. Now he was on real time with Bill Maher,

508
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Speaker 3: a very popular and successful talk show over in America,

509
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Speaker 3: and he made the point that he thinks, in his opinion,

510
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Speaker 3: the worst thing to happen to young people, particularly young men,

511
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Speaker 3: but young women as well was the anti alcohol movement.

512
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Speaker 3: But Scott Galloway and Matt you would know this because

513
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Speaker 3: you've spoken to him and obviously read some of his books.

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Speaker 3: He has been quite heavy on the plant of young

515
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Speaker 3: men in particular over recent years. So when you look

516
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Speaker 3: at the stats of young men in today's modern society

517
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Speaker 3: on how badly they're doing, it is pretty grim. And

518
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Speaker 3: he's a little bit of Professor Galloway going through those stats.

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Speaker 6: Well, the statistics are pretty storic. If you walked into

520
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Speaker 6: a morgue and there's five people died by suicide, four

521
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Speaker 6: and men, we have a homeless problem, in an opia problem,

522
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Speaker 6: But what we really have is a male homeless and

523
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Speaker 6: a male opia problem. Three times is likely to be addicted,

524
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Speaker 6: three times as likely to be homeless, twelve times is

525
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Speaker 6: likely to be incarcerated. More single women own homes, and

526
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Speaker 6: single men and women in urban areas are making more money.

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Speaker 6: T Me be clear, we should do nothing to get

528
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Speaker 6: in the way of that. But if we don't have

529
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Speaker 6: if our young men continue to fleil our country and

530
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Speaker 6: women aren't going to continue to flourish. And just a

531
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Speaker 6: couple of things you brought up loneliness and then role models.

532
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Speaker 6: One out of four in man count am a best round.

533
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Speaker 6: One out of seven men don't have a single friend.

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Speaker 6: And what I would say is there's a lot of

535
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Speaker 6: factors around this, but it's getting worse.

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Speaker 3: So in relation to the anti alcohol movement in Professor

537
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Speaker 3: Scott Galloway, that last part about friends, the right will die,

538
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Speaker 3: the people that you call upon when you get into trouble.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you know, a big chunk of young

540
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Speaker 3: men these days do not have a single best friend

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Speaker 3: that they can call upon when they're in trouble, there's devastating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And men are currently twelve times more likely to

543
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Speaker 2: have no one at their funeral to have a government

544
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Speaker 2: funeral because they know absolutely no one when they die. Yeah.

545
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Speaker 2: So you know, the point Professor Scott Galloway is making

546
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Speaker 2: is if moderate alcohol means that they get over their

547
00:26:10,173 --> 00:26:13,733
Speaker 2: social awkwardness to the point where they make friends and

548
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Speaker 2: aren't so socially awkward, then on balance, he says, it's

549
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Speaker 2: a bitter thing. While acknowledging the terrible downside of alcohol

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Speaker 2: as well. Dallas, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, hi guys, this is such a very good discussion,

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Speaker 14: an important one for New Zealand. And it's only facet

553
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Speaker 14: you know. And I hope you go past two o'clock

554
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Speaker 14: on the sign, but we'll see how it goes. But

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Speaker 14: just you're on your opening remarks, I just wanted to

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Speaker 14: ask you quickly. You must get a lot of political

557
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Speaker 14: texts coming in every day. Are the worst ones from

558
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Speaker 14: the right or from the left?

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Speaker 2: What you mean the most abusive?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: M sometimes it's just straight up abuse. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think nine two ninety two is a absolutely fire

563
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Speaker 2: whatever you wanted all for.

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Speaker 3: It extremes on both sides, But yeah, narrow it down

565
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Speaker 3: to what side is the worst?

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Speaker 4: Genuinely, I don't know if I could say.

567
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Speaker 2: On this particular topic, I think from the left, because

568
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Speaker 2: for some reason, the left seems to be more restrictive

569
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Speaker 2: when it comes to alcohol than the right and the

570
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Speaker 2: current clip. But it used to be different, didn't it.

571
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Speaker 2: It used to be the other way around. It's funny

572
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Speaker 2: how things change. What is left and right?

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Speaker 15: Though?

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Speaker 2: Now it's all all over the scale. Dallas.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I guess you get a lot of anti justinder

576
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Speaker 14: text coming in. But that's another topic. Yeah, this is

577
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Speaker 14: another thing I wanted to ash you about alcohol. If

578
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Speaker 14: you add up all the jay in the world from

579
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Speaker 14: alcohol against the sorrow, which wins, you know, as alcohol

580
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Speaker 14: caused more joy in the world or more sorrow. That's

581
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Speaker 14: an industry one to.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it be a difficult one to work out? I

583
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Speaker 2: guess it's an individual thing, isn't it? Across society? The

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Speaker 2: terror and the horror of you know, drunk drivers that

585
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Speaker 2: kill people, the domestic violence, A lot of the terrible

586
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Speaker 2: things happen at the faring at the ends of the spectrum,

587
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Speaker 2: absolute horrors. But the moderate drinker that meets a partner

588
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Speaker 2: that they wouldn't go up and talk to if they

589
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Speaker 2: hadn't had a couple of drinks because they're socially awkward.

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Speaker 2: That goes on to you know, a whole wholesome experience

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Speaker 2: in life. I think it comes down to sort of

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Speaker 2: an individual thing. Dallas. It would be a hard hard

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Speaker 2: one to tell you up.

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Speaker 4: What's your thoughts on add Dallas?

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Speaker 14: No, I just throw that out there. You know, it's

596
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Speaker 14: just an intersty one. But in the new Zealing context.

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Speaker 14: It come back to the alcohol thing here. You know,

598
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Speaker 14: I don't know, in the past we've had a problem

599
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Speaker 14: with you know, you can't celebrate anything without a beer

600
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Speaker 14: in your hand or wine, and that we need to

601
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Speaker 14: get pasted. And maybe the young people of today more

602
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Speaker 14: are getting past that I don't know used to be,

603
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Speaker 14: you know, the old rugby culture. They all booze in

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Speaker 14: on the on the bus trips, you know away in

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Speaker 14: the Rugby trip that you're speak stocking, you know, the

606
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Speaker 14: old you have to get lotter on these buses and

607
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Speaker 14: all the things that are carried on. So are we

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Speaker 14: getting past that? Are young people more sensible these days

609
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Speaker 14: and than our generation?

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Speaker 9: You know?

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Speaker 14: That's But the other thing is that third space. That

612
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Speaker 14: is the idea too, like because I lived in England

613
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Speaker 14: in London and outhers were so tiny. You know if

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Speaker 14: you're living there and flatting that you actually do need

615
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Speaker 14: that third space to which is the pub, you know,

616
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Speaker 14: the local pub down on the corner off and it's

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Speaker 14: warmer air and more space, and so that is an

618
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Speaker 14: important thing. So in the New Zealan context, our library

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Speaker 14: is going to be that third space. Are they morphing

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Speaker 14: into that community? Send a point or you know, that's

621
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Speaker 14: an interesting concept as well, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess what Professor Scott Galloway is saying is

623
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Speaker 2: that young people aren't choosing not to drink because they're

624
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Speaker 2: anti alcohol. They're choosing not to drink because they're getting

625
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Speaker 2: becoming so socially isolated that they're just sitting at home

626
00:30:14,973 --> 00:30:20,133
Speaker 2: and getting absolutely all their needs fills online. But it's

627
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Speaker 2: an unhealthy you know, I guess playing of those emotions

628
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Speaker 2: like social media, the algorithms make them feel like they're

629
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Speaker 2: getting that social need, but they're being gained and you know,

630
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Speaker 2: let's not you know, you get into the romantic side

631
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Speaker 2: of things and how the algorithms are gaming on that.

632
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Speaker 2: So he's he's sort of arguing that, you know, loneliness

633
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Speaker 2: is linked to you know, increase mortality, depression, poorer overall

634
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Speaker 2: health outcomes, and sometimes you know that moderate drinking is

635
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Speaker 2: the payoff for you know, getting out and about and

636
00:31:02,253 --> 00:31:04,853
Speaker 2: getting off the screens and actually talking face to face

637
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Speaker 2: with people. So it's a trade off thing, Dallas. So

638
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:10,653
Speaker 2: it's not so much that the young people are more

639
00:31:10,693 --> 00:31:13,853
Speaker 2: responsible with drinking now, they're just so gamed by the

640
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Speaker 2: big corporations by the algorithm that they're not doing anything

641
00:31:18,093 --> 00:31:20,053
Speaker 2: but just sitting at home being used.

642
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Speaker 14: But it seems to mean it galways presenting a false alternative.

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Speaker 14: It's either you're on in the basement with your cell

644
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Speaker 14: phone or you're drinking. I mean that it's like rul

645
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Speaker 14: alternatives to drinking.

646
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Speaker 3: Yes, but I mean, is that not just removing And look,

647
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Speaker 3: he's made the point in a pretty compelling but definitive way.

648
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Speaker 3: But isn't the point that it any barrier that gets

649
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Speaker 3: removed to get people out of the basement and off

650
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Speaker 3: the screens and socializing for mental health and in this

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Speaker 3: case it's alcohol and not to extremes, but it removes

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Speaker 3: that barrier, and if that is what it takes, then

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Speaker 3: that is arguably a good thing.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, but is that that's not a good alternative. I mean,

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Speaker 14: there are so many other things young people can be

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Speaker 14: doing to meet each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's the path of at least resistance.

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Speaker 2: His argument would be, well, I mean, I think going

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Speaker 2: to the gym clubs, as I was mentioning before, you know,

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Speaker 2: volunteer work or anything that they could get out in

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Speaker 2: the community and spend time with people would be fantastic

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Speaker 2: and it would do a lot of the good that

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Speaker 2: he claims that alcohol does. But he's saying that without

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Speaker 2: the social lubricant of alcohol, people are just too socially

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Speaker 2: anxious to make those connections. So whilst you admit that

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Speaker 2: the alcohol is bad and that maybe we want the

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Speaker 2: perfect world where everyone's joining a choir or you know,

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Speaker 2: going on big, long, meaningful tramps with their friends, what

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Speaker 2: they're doing is nothing. What they're doing is just as

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Speaker 2: someone as this mum texting before, I would rather I

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Speaker 2: was picking up my son rotten than watching him rotten

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Speaker 2: his bedroom. Yeah, it's a complex one, Dallas, but thank

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Speaker 2: you if you all appreciate it, and thanks for asking questions.

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Speaker 2: Dallas is always good. He rings in and he asks

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Speaker 2: the serious questions about it.

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Speaker 3: We love Dallas, so we love you mate. Oh one

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Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 3: Love to chat with you on this one? Is well

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Speaker 3: anti alcohol movement? Has it been detrimental to our population

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Speaker 3: of particularly younger people?

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Speaker 4: Love to your thoughts. It is a quarter to two.

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Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty. Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons news talks.

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Speaker 2: The'd be it is twelve to two Vanessa, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the show. Your thoughts on alcohol?

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Speaker 16: Yes, Ciota.

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Speaker 17: So I suppose I've got first hand experience with our

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Speaker 17: teenagers from New Zealand. I was the healthy and Technology

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Speaker 17: teacher to five hundred and twenty boys at the number

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Speaker 17: one Boys school in New Zealand from two thousand and

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Speaker 17: sixteen to twenty nineteen. So I was really giving them

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Speaker 17: the education about the drugs and alcohol, but also asking

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Speaker 17: them exactly what was going on in their lives. And

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Speaker 17: you know, the really sad fact that I noticed was

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Speaker 17: the sense of family just does not exist in New

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Speaker 17: Zealand anymore. So when I would say to my students,

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Speaker 17: I'd like you to go home and you know, discuss

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Speaker 17: this with the family at the dinner table. But all

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Speaker 17: look at me blankly and say, what do you mean

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Speaker 17: this We don't have at dinner table because, you know,

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Speaker 17: because because the cost of living is so exorbitantly expensive

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Speaker 17: in New Zealand. You know, families are leaving at seven

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Speaker 17: o'clock in the morning to try and get to work.

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Speaker 17: They're coming home late.

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Speaker 18: You know.

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Speaker 17: I used to say to them, you know, what are

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Speaker 17: your parents doing during the dinner time, during dinner time

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Speaker 17: and they said, oh, well, they're just on their iPads

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Speaker 17: and that. You know, the kids just get their dinner

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Speaker 17: and then they just go to their rooms. So unfortunately,

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Speaker 17: due to the mandates with the with what the labor

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Speaker 17: government did to all of our children, you know, the

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Speaker 17: average prescription and now that a doctor is prescribing for

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Speaker 17: our teenagers as PTSD and anxiety. You know, I've got

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Speaker 17: students that literally get up in class, they walk out.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 17: After finishing at that school, I went on to being

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Speaker 17: a special needs teacher for three years and then I

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Speaker 17: worked at All Girls' Catholic School for two years. So

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Speaker 17: I've had significant experience with our teenagers and you know,

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Speaker 17: I'm now making significant impact for the teenagers of New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: I'm actually shaking the foundations of the New Zealand education

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Speaker 17: system as we speak, with setting up a global corporation

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Speaker 17: for a young fifteen year old to collaborate with special

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Speaker 17: needs to work Monday to Thursday on ten till three

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Speaker 17: and then on Friday. It's going to be compulsory charity.

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Speaker 17: So the charity that that global corporation I'm setting up

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Speaker 17: is for parental alienation PTSD. When in suicide prevention, I'm

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Speaker 17: also setting up a charity for special needs children and

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Speaker 17: our family and their families because there's a special needs teacher,

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Speaker 17: you know, especially when I got locked down, I had

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Speaker 17: the highest needs class within the school.

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Speaker 2: You know, So when you when you talk about the

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Speaker 2: you know, you say that there's that that's that's the

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Speaker 2: cost of living crisis. But then you're you're saying that

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Speaker 2: when when they get home, the parents are on the

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Speaker 2: phone or on their screens. So that's not so much

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Speaker 2: the hours of working if you've got because I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you can spend half an hour of quality time

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Speaker 2: with kids, then isn't isn't isn't the problem that the

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Speaker 2: kids are on the devices, the parents on the devices

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Speaker 2: and whatever time that they have, Because I mean people

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Speaker 2: have always worked long hours. Absolutely, but but but but

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Speaker 2: but but if you can get half an hour, and

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Speaker 2: that half an hour is the parents on the on

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Speaker 2: their screen time, isn't that isn't that the real problem?

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Speaker 17: No, it's not. It's because you know, especially based in

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Speaker 17: ORC you know, I used to have students that hadn't

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Speaker 17: even said good morning to their mum and dad. I

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Speaker 17: used to buy bags of fruit and vegetables because you know,

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Speaker 17: as teenagers they barely have a shower, let alone get

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Speaker 17: themselves organized with breakfast. You know they would be going home.

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Speaker 17: Is no one at home for them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds like you've seen a lot of problems out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you go. But next to thank you for your call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah great call.

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Speaker 3: Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: to call? Can you hear from you? It is eight

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Speaker 3: minutes to two.

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Speaker 1: Matteath Tyler Adams taking your calls on oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 9: It's mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 3: News Talks ed BE it is five minutes to two.

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Speaker 3: Few techs coming through on nine to two niney two.

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Speaker 2: I agree with the professor who quoted regarding males and friends.

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Speaker 2: I'm six years old and I couldn't name anyone who

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Speaker 2: I could call a best friend. I know a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, but have no friends that hang out with me.

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Speaker 2: That's from Henry, thank you for text and sorry to

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Speaker 2: hear that. And that's his point. You know, he'd rather

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Speaker 2: that people drink moderately and have friends and get over

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Speaker 2: the social anxiety to meet friends, then not drink at

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Speaker 2: all and not have friends. Matt points out that drunk

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Speaker 2: people are level one hundred cringe. I mean that is true,

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Speaker 2: can be tough if you're sober and people are pretty

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Speaker 2: truly well. I mean, if you've ever seen and I've

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Speaker 2: seen quite a bit of footage of me and I've

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Speaker 2: been drinking and not a cool guy thinks he's cool.

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Speaker 4: I've heard the stories.

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Speaker 2: Hi, guys, only drink if you can guarantee your behavior.

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Speaker 2: If once you start drinking and can't guarantee it, you

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Speaker 2: shouldn't drink it all. Cheers. Yeah, I mean exactly. If

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Speaker 2: you start doing terrible things when you're drinking and you

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Speaker 2: continue drinking, then that's on you.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's clearly not good for anything. And this is

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Speaker 3: a nice one giday guys. A lot of people can

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Speaker 3: enjoy a social beer and spend lots of spare time

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Speaker 3: in the outdoors. Think God's Own Adventure race that's just finished.

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Speaker 3: There is a balance. It's not either sitting by yourself

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Speaker 3: or in your bedroom or getting smashed.

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Speaker 4: That's from Bell.

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Speaker 2: This is smart from Sam. We are not isolated because

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Speaker 2: we are not drinking socially. We are not drinking socially

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Speaker 2: because we are isolated.

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Speaker 4: Deep and yeah, well pot yeah, yeah right.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people just sitting home on their devices

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Speaker 2: getting all their needs provided to them from the algorithm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Should we keep this going?

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Speaker 16: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people want to have their saying.

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Speaker 3: Were keen to chat with you as well? Oh eight

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Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty. Do you think the anti alcohol

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Speaker 3: movement has gone too far?

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Speaker 2: Dallas wanted us to take it past too. Yeah, Dallas

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Speaker 2: is good man, so let's take it past.

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Speaker 4: We listen to you, Dallas.

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Speaker 3: Nine two is the text number New Sport and we're

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Speaker 3: a fast approaching. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Hope

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Speaker 3: you're having a great Monday afternoon. Back very shortly.

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Speaker 9: Talking with you all afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons news Talks.

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Speaker 4: It'd be very good afternoons to here. Welcome back into

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Speaker 4: the show.

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Speaker 3: Seven past two, and we're carrying on our discussion around

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Speaker 3: comments from Professor Scott Galloway. If you haven't heard of

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Speaker 3: them before. He he is everywhere at the moment. He

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Speaker 3: runs podcasts, he's on podcast and he was on the

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Speaker 3: UIs talk show Real Tom with Bill Maya, and they

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Speaker 3: were talking about what is going wrong with young men

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Speaker 3: and young woman, primarily young men. And here's a little

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Speaker 3: bit of what he said right at the end of

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Speaker 3: that interview.

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Speaker 6: The second worst thing to happen to young people is

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Speaker 6: remote work one and three. Relationships begin at work. This

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Speaker 6: is where you find friends, mentors, and mates, and especially

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Speaker 6: young men need the guardrails of a workplace. But in

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Speaker 6: my view, the worst thing that's happened to young people

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Speaker 6: is the anti alcohol movement. I've had Huberman on, who

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Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of, an antiaon and my point

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Speaker 6: is that the risk to your twenty five year old

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Speaker 6: liver are risk are dwarf by the risk of social

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Speaker 6: isolation in some Think of all the amazing relationships you've

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Speaker 6: had in your life, and be honest, did alcohol play

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Speaker 6: a role in some? Get out, drink more and make

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Speaker 6: a series of bad decisions that might payoff.

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Speaker 3: So obviously a good reaction there from Bill Maya and

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Speaker 3: the audience, But that's what we're talking about. The anti

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Speaker 3: alcohol movement. Has it done more harm than good, particularly

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Speaker 3: for younger people.

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Speaker 2: Young people. As he goes on to say, aren't drinking

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Speaker 2: less because they suddenly become wiser. They're drinking less because

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Speaker 2: just change the page on this quote. They're lonelier, they're

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Speaker 2: more anxious, and they're socializing through screens instead of being

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Speaker 2: out and about face to face.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so what do you reckon about this? I on

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Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We've had a truckload

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Speaker 3: of texts coming through On nine two ninety two as well.

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Speaker 2: This text says, not sure who's not drinking, but I'm

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Speaker 2: a high school teacher and the kids are absolutely still partying. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This text says, guys, I worked for a large airline

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Speaker 2: in Europe for years. When U night stopped somewhere, the

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Speaker 2: crew would have some drinks on the way to the hotel,

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Speaker 2: and by the time you got there, everyone was chatting

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Speaker 2: and would arrange activities for the time away. Airline eventually

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Speaker 2: band drinks on the bus due to health and safety,

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Speaker 2: so people didn't gell the same way and often would

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Speaker 2: disappear to the hotel room for the duration. If there

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Speaker 2: was an on average six crew suicides and hotels per year. Wow,

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Speaker 2: I truly believe the withdrawal of those drinks directly contributed

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Speaker 2: to the isolation. Many of the younger crew foult. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of a catch twenty two, isn't it. So you

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Speaker 2: need the alcohol to get up the Dutch courage to

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Speaker 2: talk to people, to plan to do other things. But

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Speaker 2: then you know you can get absolutely steamed, and terrible

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Speaker 2: things can happen.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, both extreme.

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Speaker 2: I mean idea. It wouldn't be great if we live

869
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Speaker 2: in a world where everyone felt confident to just talk

870
00:42:40,933 --> 00:42:43,773
Speaker 2: to each other, yeah, without having to get steamed, right,

871
00:42:43,853 --> 00:42:45,533
Speaker 2: if only? But I think that's a part of it.

872
00:42:45,573 --> 00:42:47,893
Speaker 3: And look, I'm speaking from personal experience here, and maybe

873
00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:49,973
Speaker 3: this gets a little bit easier as you get older.

874
00:42:49,973 --> 00:42:52,933
Speaker 3: I think it airs to me, but in the early years,

875
00:42:52,933 --> 00:42:56,413
Speaker 3: and it still happens from time to time. If I'm

876
00:42:57,213 --> 00:42:59,493
Speaker 3: thinking about something that hasn't gone right and it's really

877
00:42:59,493 --> 00:43:01,893
Speaker 3: playing up in my mind and then someone says, hey,

878
00:43:01,933 --> 00:43:04,893
Speaker 3: do you want to come out and hang out and

879
00:43:04,933 --> 00:43:07,813
Speaker 3: we can have a beer, that is music to my ears,

880
00:43:07,853 --> 00:43:11,133
Speaker 3: because I don't think I can put some of that

881
00:43:11,293 --> 00:43:15,133
Speaker 3: stuff to beard. Yes I can do now. But quite

882
00:43:15,173 --> 00:43:17,493
Speaker 3: often when there's a beer involved or a weed drink,

883
00:43:17,493 --> 00:43:19,853
Speaker 3: and you're sitting with a friend and you're outdoors in

884
00:43:19,893 --> 00:43:21,973
Speaker 3: a beer guard and you get some vitamin D. That

885
00:43:22,093 --> 00:43:25,453
Speaker 3: ability just to have a sip of beer to take

886
00:43:25,533 --> 00:43:28,933
Speaker 3: your brain out of the misery that it's currently in

887
00:43:29,093 --> 00:43:32,093
Speaker 3: because you're thinking too much about something that's gone wrong.

888
00:43:32,533 --> 00:43:36,013
Speaker 3: That ability to distract for just a short while, I

889
00:43:36,053 --> 00:43:38,293
Speaker 3: think is incredibly helpful for a lot of people. Certainly

890
00:43:38,373 --> 00:43:40,893
Speaker 3: has been for me to say, I'm just gonna stop

891
00:43:41,173 --> 00:43:42,893
Speaker 3: dwelling on this for the time being. I'm going to

892
00:43:42,973 --> 00:43:45,053
Speaker 3: have a beer with my mate and talk about things

893
00:43:45,053 --> 00:43:47,013
Speaker 3: that are good for my mental well being. That can

894
00:43:47,053 --> 00:43:48,973
Speaker 3: be an incredibly helpful tool for a lot of people.

895
00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:52,053
Speaker 2: What if you follow that one beer, because what's the saying,

896
00:43:52,693 --> 00:43:54,533
Speaker 2: You have a drink and the drink has you. Yeah,

897
00:43:54,853 --> 00:43:57,893
Speaker 2: so you have that one drink to calm down and

898
00:43:58,133 --> 00:43:59,772
Speaker 2: make yourself feel better and have a bit of a chat.

899
00:43:59,853 --> 00:44:01,292
Speaker 2: Then that makes you want have another, and then another

900
00:44:01,293 --> 00:44:03,013
Speaker 2: another another, and another. No no no no no no

901
00:44:03,053 --> 00:44:06,973
Speaker 2: no no no no no. You wake up the next morning, goo, whoa,

902
00:44:07,733 --> 00:44:11,133
Speaker 2: what happened? Was just meeting for a nice drenk Oh,

903
00:44:11,173 --> 00:44:13,652
Speaker 2: my goodness, And then in the shower remembering all the

904
00:44:13,693 --> 00:44:16,493
Speaker 2: stupid things you see going ah, trying to block out

905
00:44:16,493 --> 00:44:19,893
Speaker 2: your thoughts and then you spend Saturday full of self

906
00:44:19,893 --> 00:44:21,453
Speaker 2: hatred and anxiety.

907
00:44:21,573 --> 00:44:22,053
Speaker 4: You bang on.

908
00:44:22,173 --> 00:44:23,772
Speaker 3: You definitely don't want to do that because that will

909
00:44:23,773 --> 00:44:24,973
Speaker 3: make things far worse.

910
00:44:26,053 --> 00:44:28,732
Speaker 2: And I think the professor Scott Galloway's putting it that way.

911
00:44:28,893 --> 00:44:30,652
Speaker 2: You know that the worst thing that's happened to young

912
00:44:30,693 --> 00:44:34,172
Speaker 2: people is the anti alcohol movement. He's pushing the point

913
00:44:34,213 --> 00:44:36,853
Speaker 2: hard to get the conversation gown down. But I guess

914
00:44:36,893 --> 00:44:38,453
Speaker 2: what you if you were going to put it in

915
00:44:38,493 --> 00:44:42,093
Speaker 2: a more mild way, it would be something like mild

916
00:44:42,093 --> 00:44:45,253
Speaker 2: to moderate at alcohol consumption can help reduce social anxiety,

917
00:44:45,373 --> 00:44:48,213
Speaker 2: especially for young adults who are still learning to navigate,

918
00:44:48,613 --> 00:44:51,973
Speaker 2: you know, and you know talking to people, socialization, you know,

919
00:44:52,013 --> 00:44:56,373
Speaker 2: interpersonal dynamics or whatever, and that the alcohol access a

920
00:44:56,373 --> 00:45:00,133
Speaker 2: catalyst for forming friendships, romantic relationships, professional networks and stuff

921
00:45:00,173 --> 00:45:03,333
Speaker 2: that because they're so awkward, they just would never do.

922
00:45:04,293 --> 00:45:08,893
Speaker 2: So he's saying that there is obviously a terribly terrible

923
00:45:08,933 --> 00:45:13,333
Speaker 2: downside to alcohol, but he's in his opinion, it's you know,

924
00:45:13,453 --> 00:45:19,133
Speaker 2: the the increased mortality, depression, and poorer healthcome outcomes from

925
00:45:19,173 --> 00:45:24,333
Speaker 2: loneliness worse than the moderate than the damage from moderate

926
00:45:24,413 --> 00:45:26,893
Speaker 2: drinking in your twenties. Yeah, for example, but if he

927
00:45:26,893 --> 00:45:29,133
Speaker 2: talks about the Human podcast and if you want to

928
00:45:29,333 --> 00:45:33,333
Speaker 2: question your drinking, listen to Hubanman's podcast on alcohol. Yeah,

929
00:45:33,413 --> 00:45:37,693
Speaker 2: my god, is zero alcohol describe as your sleep, describing

930
00:45:37,733 --> 00:45:38,453
Speaker 2: what it does to you.

931
00:45:38,573 --> 00:45:41,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is terrifying. Very good podcast.

932
00:45:41,653 --> 00:45:43,813
Speaker 2: That's coming from me who's been a big drinker of

933
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:46,133
Speaker 2: most of my life. I was going, boy, is it

934
00:45:46,173 --> 00:45:46,533
Speaker 2: too late?

935
00:45:46,973 --> 00:45:48,772
Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

936
00:45:48,813 --> 00:45:51,573
Speaker 3: to call? It is twelve past two. Beg very surely.

937
00:45:52,933 --> 00:45:57,293
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons

938
00:45:57,333 --> 00:45:59,252
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

939
00:45:59,373 --> 00:46:00,293
Speaker 9: News Talks B.

940
00:46:01,653 --> 00:46:04,333
Speaker 4: News Talks it B. It is a quarter past too.

941
00:46:04,933 --> 00:46:05,013
Speaker 19: Oh.

942
00:46:05,053 --> 00:46:07,333
Speaker 4: E one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

943
00:46:07,733 --> 00:46:11,893
Speaker 2: Robert, welcome the show. You've just read the book I have.

944
00:46:12,053 --> 00:46:14,573
Speaker 7: I've just read the book, and I'm actually a reasonably

945
00:46:14,613 --> 00:46:18,413
Speaker 7: good consumer of the professor's work, as I find them

946
00:46:18,413 --> 00:46:20,813
Speaker 7: a great sort of counterbalance to a lot of the

947
00:46:20,893 --> 00:46:22,973
Speaker 7: opinions out there at the moment. Actually, the good read.

948
00:46:22,973 --> 00:46:26,333
Speaker 2: Does this Robert from the Great People at November.

949
00:46:26,813 --> 00:46:32,053
Speaker 7: It is Matthew. Yeah, you know good Yeah, long time listener.

950
00:46:32,053 --> 00:46:33,573
Speaker 7: But no, actually I was called in the other day

951
00:46:33,573 --> 00:46:35,252
Speaker 7: as well, so I can't say that, Oh.

952
00:46:35,173 --> 00:46:38,053
Speaker 3: A good Man in November is a fantastic organization.

953
00:46:38,573 --> 00:46:40,813
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're you're deep in the world of helping

954
00:46:41,853 --> 00:46:44,732
Speaker 2: you know, the male mental health crisis, if that's if

955
00:46:44,733 --> 00:46:46,773
Speaker 2: that's what we want to want to call it, call it.

956
00:46:47,053 --> 00:46:51,373
Speaker 2: But but you also embrace the the you know, the

957
00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:53,493
Speaker 2: the alcohol side of it to a certain extent as well,

958
00:46:53,533 --> 00:46:53,773
Speaker 2: don't you.

959
00:46:53,853 --> 00:46:57,533
Speaker 7: Robert. I think a couple of your callers sort of

960
00:46:57,573 --> 00:47:00,253
Speaker 7: worded it really well, is like we all determine the

961
00:47:00,293 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 7: relationship we have with alcohol, and unfortunately, in the world today,

962
00:47:04,853 --> 00:47:07,293
Speaker 7: we're able to hold up really quickly all the things

963
00:47:07,373 --> 00:47:09,293
Speaker 7: we get wrong, not just with alcohol but with all

964
00:47:09,333 --> 00:47:12,213
Speaker 7: sorts of things, and those things are the ones that

965
00:47:12,293 --> 00:47:15,613
Speaker 7: get headlines and coverage and create a huge amount of conversation.

966
00:47:15,693 --> 00:47:18,013
Speaker 7: And we all sort of, you know, look at all

967
00:47:18,053 --> 00:47:20,133
Speaker 7: the things we shouldn't be doing. But actually, you know,

968
00:47:20,173 --> 00:47:22,893
Speaker 7: there's a number of people out there who are doing

969
00:47:22,893 --> 00:47:25,173
Speaker 7: it really really well, you know, like the majority, I

970
00:47:25,173 --> 00:47:30,893
Speaker 7: would say, and they use alcohol and connection and socializing

971
00:47:31,013 --> 00:47:33,973
Speaker 7: is a great opportunity to catch up with people, talk

972
00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:38,133
Speaker 7: do a bit of problem solving and just have a

973
00:47:38,133 --> 00:47:40,413
Speaker 7: couple of drinks and then they bop off and they

974
00:47:40,413 --> 00:47:43,333
Speaker 7: go back to the normal life. Our female counterparts do

975
00:47:43,373 --> 00:47:47,973
Speaker 7: it really, really well. They fantasticket staying in connection with

976
00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:50,853
Speaker 7: their with their girlfriends. They make a real effort, they

977
00:47:50,893 --> 00:47:53,013
Speaker 7: catch up, they have a whine, they have a yarn,

978
00:47:53,053 --> 00:47:54,973
Speaker 7: They do a heap of problem solving, They talk about

979
00:47:54,973 --> 00:47:59,013
Speaker 7: big things in life really really quickly. And while Professor

980
00:47:59,053 --> 00:48:02,493
Speaker 7: Galloway gave that example around going to a morgue and

981
00:48:02,653 --> 00:48:05,293
Speaker 7: you know, seeing how many of the people who are

982
00:48:05,293 --> 00:48:07,773
Speaker 7: in the mall, will we men, the flip side of

983
00:48:07,773 --> 00:48:09,933
Speaker 7: that is that that it's not females, even though they

984
00:48:09,973 --> 00:48:13,692
Speaker 7: have very similar incidents of depression and anxiety. They don't

985
00:48:13,693 --> 00:48:16,333
Speaker 7: take his dress to reaction. Their statistics are not as bad,

986
00:48:16,693 --> 00:48:19,013
Speaker 7: but they are still having a wine and catching up

987
00:48:19,013 --> 00:48:21,253
Speaker 7: with your girlfriends and being a little bit social and

988
00:48:21,293 --> 00:48:23,133
Speaker 7: sort of doing it okay. So I think it's really

989
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:26,413
Speaker 7: important to be run to determine the relations they have.

990
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:28,373
Speaker 7: And as you said, Matt, look if you don't like

991
00:48:28,413 --> 00:48:30,133
Speaker 7: who you are when you're drinking, then don't drink. If

992
00:48:30,173 --> 00:48:32,133
Speaker 7: you've got a friend who you think it's to the

993
00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:34,573
Speaker 7: detriment of them to drink, then maybe encourage them not

994
00:48:34,613 --> 00:48:38,893
Speaker 7: to drink or to have a half havebit, I think,

995
00:48:39,093 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 7: you know, on the other side of it, like these

996
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:44,453
Speaker 7: are the things we don't talk about. We've matured hugely.

997
00:48:44,533 --> 00:48:46,053
Speaker 7: Like we will go out to the pub now and

998
00:48:46,093 --> 00:48:47,893
Speaker 7: if one of your mates is having a water or

999
00:48:47,893 --> 00:48:50,813
Speaker 7: a lemonade or a zero strength, you know, we don't

1000
00:48:50,813 --> 00:48:53,053
Speaker 7: give them any banter. I certainly don't. I think that's

1001
00:48:53,333 --> 00:48:55,373
Speaker 7: hugely acceptable and I'm just happy to see the guy

1002
00:48:55,413 --> 00:48:56,973
Speaker 7: and have a yarn, you know. And I think most

1003
00:48:56,973 --> 00:49:00,573
Speaker 7: people are like that, Whereas sometimes we you know, we

1004
00:49:00,733 --> 00:49:02,732
Speaker 7: like to highlight all the bad stuff, but I think

1005
00:49:02,733 --> 00:49:04,733
Speaker 7: we need to do a job around highlighting all the

1006
00:49:04,773 --> 00:49:06,813
Speaker 7: good stuff as well. And it's awesome to make any

1007
00:49:06,853 --> 00:49:09,093
Speaker 7: fit to catch up with your mates. And someone has

1008
00:49:09,093 --> 00:49:11,373
Speaker 7: a bear and someone has eliminade, then then who cares?

1009
00:49:11,373 --> 00:49:13,293
Speaker 7: You know, Like I think it's a great thing that

1010
00:49:14,013 --> 00:49:16,813
Speaker 7: it's really hard as a as a as you go

1011
00:49:16,893 --> 00:49:19,333
Speaker 7: through life stages to stay connected with the people that

1012
00:49:19,413 --> 00:49:22,493
Speaker 7: mean a lot to you. So anyone in any way,

1013
00:49:22,493 --> 00:49:25,453
Speaker 7: shape or form that's doing that, you know, whether it's

1014
00:49:25,453 --> 00:49:27,172
Speaker 7: at the pub, at the rugby club at the cricket club,

1015
00:49:27,213 --> 00:49:29,493
Speaker 7: whether it's going to a sports event together, whether it's

1016
00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:33,093
Speaker 7: going to a show together, a festival like whatever. That's

1017
00:49:33,133 --> 00:49:37,172
Speaker 7: good stuff. That's you know, that's where we learn huge

1018
00:49:37,173 --> 00:49:39,853
Speaker 7: amount of life skills and interaction. And I believe a

1019
00:49:39,893 --> 00:49:42,053
Speaker 7: lot in what mister Galloway's saying. We are becoming about

1020
00:49:42,093 --> 00:49:44,573
Speaker 7: asocial and about asexual and we're not able to take

1021
00:49:45,253 --> 00:49:48,613
Speaker 7: prompts and triggers off people anymore and creating these one

1022
00:49:48,693 --> 00:49:50,773
Speaker 7: ray relationships in the digital world that don't sort of

1023
00:49:50,853 --> 00:49:54,253
Speaker 7: challenge us or or feedback anythink. And I think we

1024
00:49:54,373 --> 00:49:56,533
Speaker 7: just need to be really careful. What's that in New

1025
00:49:56,613 --> 00:50:00,253
Speaker 7: Zealand because his stuff's American, But often the trends do

1026
00:50:00,413 --> 00:50:02,573
Speaker 7: trickle down to different different parts of the world. But

1027
00:50:02,613 --> 00:50:04,853
Speaker 7: maybe we can get ahead of it and learn from

1028
00:50:05,013 --> 00:50:07,373
Speaker 7: some of those bigger markets and not let that be

1029
00:50:07,813 --> 00:50:10,173
Speaker 7: quite as bad down here, even though you know the

1030
00:50:10,533 --> 00:50:12,613
Speaker 7: rese elements of that here absolutely.

1031
00:50:12,653 --> 00:50:14,653
Speaker 2: Now do you think you know when we talk the

1032
00:50:14,693 --> 00:50:17,573
Speaker 2: difference between male and female friendships, and you know, as

1033
00:50:17,573 --> 00:50:20,573
Speaker 2: it plays out of a life, you know, men will

1034
00:50:20,613 --> 00:50:23,373
Speaker 2: often just drift apart. They'll have friends and they won't

1035
00:50:23,413 --> 00:50:25,413
Speaker 2: put the effort in do you think there's a thing

1036
00:50:25,493 --> 00:50:29,813
Speaker 2: with men where we feel like we can invite our

1037
00:50:29,893 --> 00:50:32,293
Speaker 2: mates out for a drink and that kind of it's

1038
00:50:32,373 --> 00:50:34,733
Speaker 2: not necessarily about the drink, but we don't really have

1039
00:50:34,813 --> 00:50:38,533
Speaker 2: another way to, you know, invite them out that doesn't

1040
00:50:38,533 --> 00:50:43,133
Speaker 2: seem weird culturally. So for example, my partner's always going

1041
00:50:43,133 --> 00:50:46,453
Speaker 2: out for coffees with her girlfriends and they'll just get

1042
00:50:46,493 --> 00:50:49,893
Speaker 2: together to do things. But we're like I was saying

1043
00:50:49,893 --> 00:50:51,413
Speaker 2: to Tyler, I'm not sure if this was off here

1044
00:50:51,533 --> 00:50:54,253
Speaker 2: or on you, but it would be odd if I

1045
00:50:54,253 --> 00:50:56,333
Speaker 2: texted Tyler on the weekend and said, hey, mates, just

1046
00:50:56,413 --> 00:50:58,973
Speaker 2: want to go for a walk, He'd be like, what's

1047
00:50:59,013 --> 00:50:59,373
Speaker 2: wrong with you?

1048
00:50:59,413 --> 00:50:59,613
Speaker 6: Mate?

1049
00:50:59,653 --> 00:51:01,733
Speaker 2: But if I texted him said you want to go

1050
00:51:01,733 --> 00:51:04,813
Speaker 2: for a beer, it's kind of more socially acceptable. But

1051
00:51:04,893 --> 00:51:06,813
Speaker 2: really the connection is what you're after. Do you kind

1052
00:51:06,813 --> 00:51:08,493
Speaker 2: of get what I'm saying, Robert.

1053
00:51:09,173 --> 00:51:11,453
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know that's what you're saying. And always say

1054
00:51:11,613 --> 00:51:13,893
Speaker 7: like the old school is not the bad school, but

1055
00:51:13,973 --> 00:51:15,773
Speaker 7: we just need to find the modern version of it.

1056
00:51:15,853 --> 00:51:18,853
Speaker 7: So like, Okay, we're not necessarily going to be filling

1057
00:51:18,893 --> 00:51:20,893
Speaker 7: the pubs and clubs or sports clubs like we used to,

1058
00:51:21,733 --> 00:51:23,773
Speaker 7: but we need to replace it with something and what

1059
00:51:23,853 --> 00:51:25,893
Speaker 7: is the modern version of it? And like you know,

1060
00:51:25,933 --> 00:51:28,293
Speaker 7: today there is all sorts of things that go on,

1061
00:51:28,373 --> 00:51:30,733
Speaker 7: like there still can be connection in the digital world.

1062
00:51:30,773 --> 00:51:34,933
Speaker 7: We're seeing you know this, you know, near pandemic called

1063
00:51:35,013 --> 00:51:36,732
Speaker 7: running and a lot of young people are actually joining

1064
00:51:36,773 --> 00:51:39,053
Speaker 7: rugby running clubs not just to be fit and healthy,

1065
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:41,813
Speaker 7: but for the social element, you know, like they're there

1066
00:51:41,853 --> 00:51:44,053
Speaker 7: because that's the way to mix with girls. We need

1067
00:51:44,093 --> 00:51:46,732
Speaker 7: to be really careful about the remote remote working thing

1068
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:49,813
Speaker 7: like that is absolutely where you cut your teeth socially,

1069
00:51:49,973 --> 00:51:52,812
Speaker 7: where you interact with females, where you interact with males,

1070
00:51:52,853 --> 00:51:55,853
Speaker 7: where you learn social cues, where you learn to interact

1071
00:51:55,893 --> 00:51:58,053
Speaker 7: with all different sorts of people, Like I think those

1072
00:51:58,053 --> 00:52:01,533
Speaker 7: things are really really relevant. So like what's replacing those

1073
00:52:01,613 --> 00:52:03,453
Speaker 7: you know what? We need to make sure that we're

1074
00:52:04,293 --> 00:52:06,213
Speaker 7: just not taking those things away and not replacing them

1075
00:52:06,253 --> 00:52:09,013
Speaker 7: with anything. And I hope Matt, like example I just

1076
00:52:09,053 --> 00:52:11,013
Speaker 7: gave when we said, you know, we can go to

1077
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:13,413
Speaker 7: the pub these days and people can drink, not drink,

1078
00:52:13,533 --> 00:52:15,253
Speaker 7: or do whatever they want, and we do see this

1079
00:52:15,373 --> 00:52:19,373
Speaker 7: socially acceptable hopefully, you know, if you said, hey, Tyler,

1080
00:52:19,373 --> 00:52:21,133
Speaker 7: do you want to walk into work together, or do

1081
00:52:21,173 --> 00:52:23,212
Speaker 7: you want to catch up for a coffee after work,

1082
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Speaker 7: or or any of those suggestions you just made. Hopefully

1083
00:52:26,253 --> 00:52:29,773
Speaker 7: over time that actually does become socially exceedsible and that

1084
00:52:29,893 --> 00:52:32,053
Speaker 7: is an okay thing to do. And I think, and

1085
00:52:32,653 --> 00:52:34,813
Speaker 7: probably not quite to the same degree with some of

1086
00:52:34,853 --> 00:52:36,733
Speaker 7: the other things we've discussed, I think that is happening

1087
00:52:36,773 --> 00:52:40,173
Speaker 7: a little bit. Like I certainly think young men are amazing.

1088
00:52:40,453 --> 00:52:43,013
Speaker 7: They have a lot better and more mature than I

1089
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:44,613
Speaker 7: was at the same age, and they're actually really up

1090
00:52:44,653 --> 00:52:47,733
Speaker 7: for looking after their mates. They're really up for tough conversations.

1091
00:52:48,333 --> 00:52:50,493
Speaker 7: I don't know. You've got a young son, Matt and

1092
00:52:50,533 --> 00:52:53,093
Speaker 7: Heath the same as well, but the miles again where

1093
00:52:53,093 --> 00:52:55,573
Speaker 7: I was as a teenager, and they are forever looking

1094
00:52:55,573 --> 00:53:00,173
Speaker 7: out for each other and they than I was. Yeah, totally,

1095
00:53:00,253 --> 00:53:03,333
Speaker 7: so again we thought about all the crisis with young men,

1096
00:53:03,373 --> 00:53:04,652
Speaker 7: they're actually doing awesome.

1097
00:53:04,933 --> 00:53:07,413
Speaker 2: The far more which more than my me and my

1098
00:53:07,453 --> 00:53:09,893
Speaker 2: friends are now my friends and I are whichever I'm

1099
00:53:09,933 --> 00:53:11,493
Speaker 2: supposed to say that. I always get pnished on the text

1100
00:53:11,493 --> 00:53:14,573
Speaker 2: machine for my poor grammar, but you know, maybe I'm

1101
00:53:14,653 --> 00:53:18,893
Speaker 2: punishing South Islander from Otago. But when I wasn't drinking,

1102
00:53:19,253 --> 00:53:21,652
Speaker 2: I was, you know, I'd get a zero alcohol beer

1103
00:53:21,693 --> 00:53:23,573
Speaker 2: and it would be such a drama with my friends

1104
00:53:23,973 --> 00:53:26,093
Speaker 2: that what I ended up doing is going up to

1105
00:53:26,133 --> 00:53:28,533
Speaker 2: the bar and having to buy all the rounds just

1106
00:53:28,613 --> 00:53:31,973
Speaker 2: so I was because it become, you know, like, you

1107
00:53:32,013 --> 00:53:33,213
Speaker 2: don't want to drink, and they bring it to the

1108
00:53:33,213 --> 00:53:35,573
Speaker 2: table and then someone say who's is the zero and

1109
00:53:35,613 --> 00:53:37,293
Speaker 2: you go me and then everyone's like, oh, you're not,

1110
00:53:37,333 --> 00:53:39,533
Speaker 2: You're not drinking, and then they's gone on. They'll sort

1111
00:53:39,573 --> 00:53:41,613
Speaker 2: of take it as a judgment that you're not drinking,

1112
00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:43,933
Speaker 2: and then they start questioning. The whole thing becomes around

1113
00:53:44,373 --> 00:53:47,813
Speaker 2: you're not drinking. Very expensive for me when I was

1114
00:53:47,813 --> 00:53:51,772
Speaker 2: buying every round just to hide my zerocohol beers in there.

1115
00:53:51,853 --> 00:53:54,413
Speaker 2: So I hope people, I hope that's true what you're saying,

1116
00:53:54,413 --> 00:53:59,253
Speaker 2: that that people are accepting that, because because what do

1117
00:53:59,253 --> 00:54:02,093
Speaker 2: you really care what someone's ambiting around you? You know,

1118
00:54:02,453 --> 00:54:03,613
Speaker 2: isn't it that they're there with you?

1119
00:54:04,813 --> 00:54:07,093
Speaker 7: I think so, And I obviously i'm you know, it's

1120
00:54:07,653 --> 00:54:09,573
Speaker 7: it's the the field or work I'm in, and we

1121
00:54:09,653 --> 00:54:12,133
Speaker 7: look at that stuff and it absolutely is changing. Like

1122
00:54:12,333 --> 00:54:13,692
Speaker 7: I think we are getting to have a lot more

1123
00:54:13,693 --> 00:54:16,013
Speaker 7: mature with it, and you know, we need to replace

1124
00:54:17,293 --> 00:54:19,733
Speaker 7: you know, some of these settings that just were what

1125
00:54:19,813 --> 00:54:21,133
Speaker 7: they used to be. You know, there's a lot of

1126
00:54:21,173 --> 00:54:24,453
Speaker 7: reasons some of the sports clubs are not as well

1127
00:54:24,493 --> 00:54:26,613
Speaker 7: as they used to be. There's you know, the these

1128
00:54:26,653 --> 00:54:30,893
Speaker 7: are real positive aspect to you know, the increased consideration

1129
00:54:30,973 --> 00:54:33,853
Speaker 7: for drink driving, but you know, the rareity is that

1130
00:54:33,893 --> 00:54:35,613
Speaker 7: means people don't come together as much. So what are

1131
00:54:35,613 --> 00:54:38,493
Speaker 7: we replacement with? What are we doing? You know, COVID's

1132
00:54:38,533 --> 00:54:40,853
Speaker 7: meant a lot of us have become chefs and great

1133
00:54:41,693 --> 00:54:43,853
Speaker 7: entertainers and posts at home. Well that's a really good thing,

1134
00:54:43,893 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 7: you know, like that having people around to your place

1135
00:54:45,853 --> 00:54:48,652
Speaker 7: and hosting them. That's awesome. But obviously that's a bit

1136
00:54:48,653 --> 00:54:52,013
Speaker 7: harder on maybe some of the some of the normal

1137
00:54:52,013 --> 00:54:54,853
Speaker 7: hospitality establishments. So I was just kind of figuring out

1138
00:54:54,893 --> 00:54:57,933
Speaker 7: what the new normal is. And yet there'll be you know,

1139
00:54:57,973 --> 00:55:00,053
Speaker 7: certain things that work and certain things that don't. But

1140
00:55:00,213 --> 00:55:03,093
Speaker 7: I would definitely say when it comes not just to

1141
00:55:03,213 --> 00:55:05,733
Speaker 7: young men but men in general, they actually are a

1142
00:55:05,733 --> 00:55:08,933
Speaker 7: lot more accepting of some of those things we've discussed,

1143
00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:12,013
Speaker 7: and actually some of the real stereotypical stuff that we'd

1144
00:55:12,053 --> 00:55:15,493
Speaker 7: love to just throw out there isn't actually true, Like

1145
00:55:15,613 --> 00:55:18,333
Speaker 7: there is huge change going on and actually men and

1146
00:55:18,373 --> 00:55:21,893
Speaker 7: boys are totally up for looking out for each other,

1147
00:55:22,333 --> 00:55:25,933
Speaker 7: you know. Yeah, PEPs. Going from that from christ Mate

1148
00:55:26,013 --> 00:55:27,253
Speaker 7: is a bit of that going on as well. But

1149
00:55:27,293 --> 00:55:29,733
Speaker 7: like I think overall, some of the things you've just

1150
00:55:29,773 --> 00:55:32,933
Speaker 7: discussed are becoming less and less of a view or

1151
00:55:32,973 --> 00:55:34,853
Speaker 7: what you might do with your mates. And to your point,

1152
00:55:34,893 --> 00:55:38,133
Speaker 7: you're dismayed, you know, we don't you know, You're like me,

1153
00:55:38,173 --> 00:55:40,133
Speaker 7: We're busy guys. I'm just bloody happy to see the boys,

1154
00:55:40,133 --> 00:55:41,733
Speaker 7: you know, like you're just really happy to stitch up

1155
00:55:41,773 --> 00:55:44,253
Speaker 7: and have a yard. And whether that's a man your

1156
00:55:44,293 --> 00:55:47,212
Speaker 7: golf trip, whether that's a certain occasion, whether that's we've

1157
00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:49,773
Speaker 7: made an effort to connect our families. I'm just so

1158
00:55:49,813 --> 00:55:51,973
Speaker 7: happy we've done it. And you know, what we what

1159
00:55:51,973 --> 00:55:56,453
Speaker 7: we do while there is very secondary to the you know,

1160
00:55:56,493 --> 00:55:58,973
Speaker 7: to the connection parts. So I think we are going

1161
00:55:58,973 --> 00:55:59,893
Speaker 7: in that direction one hundred.

1162
00:56:00,253 --> 00:56:02,253
Speaker 2: Well good on you and get on with what you do.

1163
00:56:02,293 --> 00:56:05,453
Speaker 2: How can people get hold of November and get involved

1164
00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:09,133
Speaker 2: and use your resources and monks?

1165
00:56:09,653 --> 00:56:10,213
Speaker 20: Yeah, totally.

1166
00:56:10,293 --> 00:56:12,733
Speaker 7: I think the website, November dot com is an awesome

1167
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:14,893
Speaker 7: resource for a whole lot of things we just discussed,

1168
00:56:14,893 --> 00:56:17,293
Speaker 7: like how to have a conversation, have a chicken on

1169
00:56:17,333 --> 00:56:19,173
Speaker 7: your mates, how to look out for each other. And

1170
00:56:19,213 --> 00:56:21,333
Speaker 7: you know, I just think, gosh, we're you know, hopefully

1171
00:56:21,333 --> 00:56:23,093
Speaker 7: in Auckland on'm and how long with the sudden shining

1172
00:56:23,973 --> 00:56:25,692
Speaker 7: It puts you in a little bit of a better mood,

1173
00:56:25,773 --> 00:56:27,973
Speaker 7: Like use these holidays to you know, do all the

1174
00:56:28,013 --> 00:56:30,133
Speaker 7: things we just discussed, like who's the people that mean

1175
00:56:30,173 --> 00:56:31,613
Speaker 7: a lot to you in life. Make sure you catch

1176
00:56:31,653 --> 00:56:34,333
Speaker 7: up with them, you know, make sure that you check

1177
00:56:34,373 --> 00:56:37,613
Speaker 7: on them, see how they're going. Because we talk a

1178
00:56:37,653 --> 00:56:40,413
Speaker 7: lot about you know, talk about some big topics sometimes

1179
00:56:40,413 --> 00:56:43,173
Speaker 7: that actually the solutions are all the little things, you know,

1180
00:56:43,293 --> 00:56:45,573
Speaker 7: like once a week, sit down with your kids at

1181
00:56:45,613 --> 00:56:47,333
Speaker 7: the table and have them it together. You know, like

1182
00:56:47,373 --> 00:56:50,053
Speaker 7: that's really easy. We can all do that a lot

1183
00:56:50,053 --> 00:56:52,933
Speaker 7: of families, don't, you know, put your phones in a

1184
00:56:52,973 --> 00:56:56,453
Speaker 7: jar at the clock or something. You know, there's all

1185
00:56:56,493 --> 00:56:59,613
Speaker 7: these little things that we don't do. We will say

1186
00:56:59,613 --> 00:57:01,813
Speaker 7: with time port as if it's said to Tyler last time,

1187
00:57:01,813 --> 00:57:04,893
Speaker 7: I challenged that, like, I genuinely think we have more

1188
00:57:04,933 --> 00:57:07,773
Speaker 7: time than what we think it's the most valuable commodity.

1189
00:57:08,533 --> 00:57:10,373
Speaker 2: Everyone's like cost of living and working these hours and

1190
00:57:10,373 --> 00:57:12,453
Speaker 2: then getting home and just sitting on their phones around

1191
00:57:12,453 --> 00:57:15,053
Speaker 2: their kids doom scrolling for two hours, or going out

1192
00:57:15,093 --> 00:57:17,813
Speaker 2: to meet your friend and then sitting at the sitting

1193
00:57:17,853 --> 00:57:20,213
Speaker 2: at the table staring at your phone instead of you

1194
00:57:20,333 --> 00:57:22,893
Speaker 2: finally face to face with someone. Then they get on

1195
00:57:22,933 --> 00:57:24,573
Speaker 2: the phone, and because they're on the phone, you get

1196
00:57:24,573 --> 00:57:26,253
Speaker 2: on your phone, and then you've made this effort to

1197
00:57:26,253 --> 00:57:29,173
Speaker 2: meet up with them, and then you're just sucked into

1198
00:57:29,173 --> 00:57:32,293
Speaker 2: the algorithm. What's a freaking point of that that needs

1199
00:57:32,333 --> 00:57:34,933
Speaker 2: to be There needs to be some kind of social

1200
00:57:34,973 --> 00:57:37,133
Speaker 2: cost for that. I think one of the best things

1201
00:57:37,133 --> 00:57:38,693
Speaker 2: that you can do is get off your phone, your

1202
00:57:38,813 --> 00:57:42,493
Speaker 2: mupper a gentle tasering here, yeah, eyes up here. You know.

1203
00:57:43,293 --> 00:57:45,933
Speaker 7: Well, it's like Galloway sairs, like you said, don't you

1204
00:57:45,973 --> 00:57:50,573
Speaker 7: know the tick bros, you know, like the Musks and Zuckerberg,

1205
00:57:51,373 --> 00:57:53,853
Speaker 7: they're not they're not there to solve these problems for us.

1206
00:57:53,893 --> 00:57:55,733
Speaker 7: They don't want if they want us on the phone.

1207
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:57,093
Speaker 7: You know, Like, if we're going to fix the stuff,

1208
00:57:57,093 --> 00:57:58,813
Speaker 7: we're going to do it ourselves. It's we're going to

1209
00:57:58,853 --> 00:58:00,773
Speaker 7: own one hundred percent of our fifty percent. So like

1210
00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:03,413
Speaker 7: how we behave for our kids role modeling at having

1211
00:58:03,453 --> 00:58:05,773
Speaker 7: dinner at the table once a week, you know, making

1212
00:58:05,773 --> 00:58:08,333
Speaker 7: sure they're involved in some sort of team sport or something,

1213
00:58:08,413 --> 00:58:10,933
Speaker 7: the connecttion with other people, making sure that as they

1214
00:58:10,933 --> 00:58:14,173
Speaker 7: go out they interact with boys and girls. You know,

1215
00:58:14,253 --> 00:58:16,693
Speaker 7: I think all that stuff will sounds really easy, but

1216
00:58:16,773 --> 00:58:19,053
Speaker 7: that actually is the that's the good stuff that we

1217
00:58:19,053 --> 00:58:21,533
Speaker 7: should be focusing on. There's you know, some of the

1218
00:58:21,533 --> 00:58:25,053
Speaker 7: services that deal in the crisis space they do amazing

1219
00:58:25,093 --> 00:58:27,133
Speaker 7: stuff and they need support as well, but we can

1220
00:58:27,133 --> 00:58:30,093
Speaker 7: actually do a huge amount personally as man, dads or

1221
00:58:30,133 --> 00:58:32,173
Speaker 7: business leaders or whatever.

1222
00:58:32,333 --> 00:58:32,453
Speaker 6: You know.

1223
00:58:32,533 --> 00:58:36,533
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you and speaking of connection, we've got to

1224
00:58:36,533 --> 00:58:37,733
Speaker 2: go to the ad So we have to break this

1225
00:58:37,773 --> 00:58:42,693
Speaker 2: connection with the scrape chat. Yeah that Robert done from November.

1226
00:58:42,773 --> 00:58:43,493
Speaker 4: What a great man.

1227
00:58:43,573 --> 00:58:46,093
Speaker 3: Great call and taking yours on oh eight hundred eighty

1228
00:58:46,293 --> 00:58:47,973
Speaker 3: ten eighty and as he says, if you want to

1229
00:58:48,013 --> 00:58:50,773
Speaker 3: go check them out November dot com fantastic organization.

1230
00:58:50,813 --> 00:58:51,933
Speaker 4: It's twenty eight past two.

1231
00:58:55,973 --> 00:58:59,333
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred

1232
00:58:59,413 --> 00:59:01,293
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZV.

1233
00:59:01,573 --> 00:59:03,493
Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. So we're talking about the

1234
00:59:03,653 --> 00:59:07,173
Speaker 3: anti alcohol movement and has that been detrimental for young

1235
00:59:07,213 --> 00:59:10,253
Speaker 3: people in terms of so isolation. That was the argument

1236
00:59:10,253 --> 00:59:15,493
Speaker 3: made by Professor Scott Galloway, very successful businessman, author, podcast

1237
00:59:15,613 --> 00:59:16,013
Speaker 3: our host.

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00:59:16,093 --> 00:59:17,173
Speaker 4: But can you get your views?

1239
00:59:17,373 --> 00:59:20,333
Speaker 2: This is an interesting text. Went to Tyler's swingers party

1240
00:59:20,413 --> 00:59:25,853
Speaker 2: last weekend. Without alcohol, the frivolities wouldn't have been so hyperbolic.

1241
00:59:26,093 --> 00:59:28,253
Speaker 2: See you next month, Tyler. Well, so what's one of

1242
00:59:28,293 --> 00:59:29,093
Speaker 2: these swingers parties?

1243
00:59:29,093 --> 00:59:32,893
Speaker 3: Well, the last invite that text togets you know.

1244
00:59:32,093 --> 00:59:34,173
Speaker 2: All of Tyler's swinger parties as you don't talk about

1245
00:59:34,213 --> 00:59:35,293
Speaker 2: Tyler's swingers.

1246
00:59:34,933 --> 00:59:37,373
Speaker 3: Paid exactly, So you've broken that role. But glad you

1247
00:59:37,413 --> 00:59:39,053
Speaker 3: had a good time, mate, and we might see you

1248
00:59:39,133 --> 00:59:39,853
Speaker 3: next year at some stay.

1249
00:59:39,893 --> 00:59:41,613
Speaker 2: Well I might go out for a coffee with you

1250
00:59:41,973 --> 00:59:44,293
Speaker 2: or a walk with you, Tyler, and you know, maybe

1251
00:59:44,333 --> 00:59:47,573
Speaker 2: I'll be more mature and not only think it's okay

1252
00:59:47,653 --> 00:59:50,013
Speaker 2: to ask to go for beers, but probably not ready

1253
00:59:50,013 --> 00:59:51,773
Speaker 2: for your swingers parties yet, but fair enough to it's

1254
00:59:51,773 --> 00:59:54,453
Speaker 2: pretty wild. Good in tell did Woman's Weekly know about

1255
00:59:54,453 --> 00:59:55,613
Speaker 2: your swingers party when they did that?

1256
00:59:55,613 --> 00:59:55,893
Speaker 21: But on you.

1257
00:59:55,933 --> 00:59:57,213
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure I can give them the heads up

1258
00:59:57,253 --> 01:00:00,573
Speaker 3: on that right, Oh, had one hundred eighty is the

1259
01:00:00,693 --> 01:00:02,093
Speaker 3: number to call begvery shortly.

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Speaker 4: It is twenty nine two.

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Speaker 9: Three News Talk said the headlines.

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Speaker 8: With blue bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

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Speaker 8: Fire crews are responding to multiple fires in the vicinity

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Speaker 8: of Tongededu National Park to measure thirty meters by two

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Speaker 8: hundred meters, while firefighters are having some difficulty reaching a

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Speaker 8: third on State Highway forty seven. There are five trucks

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Speaker 8: and three helicopters there so far. The NZDF has revealed

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Speaker 8: Chinese warships followed a New Zealand Navy ship during an

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Speaker 8: operation last month in international waters on patrols in the

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Speaker 8: East China Sea. The Children's Commissioner has launched the Dear

1271
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Speaker 8: Children campaign, which focuses on preventing all forms of child maltreatment.

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Speaker 8: A bed by school caretaker Ashton Keeper, against his just

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Speaker 8: drugs and having child abuse material, has failed. Children from

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Speaker 8: a Christchurch daycare where some were burnt by chemicals accidentally

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Speaker 8: put on a water slide a back at the center

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Speaker 8: Today kinder Care has apologized and will work cooperatively with

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01:01:11,293 --> 01:01:16,173
Speaker 8: work Safe and the Education ministry. Last of the bad

1279
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Speaker 8: news is it and set for economic revival in twenty

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Speaker 8: twenty six. What is fueling the optimism? Read more at

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Speaker 8: enzid Herald Premium. Now back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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01:01:26,093 --> 01:01:28,253
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean. So we are talking

1283
01:01:28,333 --> 01:01:32,053
Speaker 3: about the supposed anti alcohol movement. Has it been detrimental

1284
01:01:32,333 --> 01:01:35,093
Speaker 3: to younger people? This was the argument made by Professor

1285
01:01:35,133 --> 01:01:39,893
Speaker 3: Scott Scott Galloway, and I'll just sum up his quote.

1286
01:01:39,933 --> 01:01:42,173
Speaker 3: He was on Real Time with Bill mar very successful

1287
01:01:42,173 --> 01:01:44,813
Speaker 3: show over in America. So he said, I quote, the

1288
01:01:44,853 --> 01:01:47,693
Speaker 3: worst thing that's happened to young people's the anti alcohol movement.

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01:01:47,773 --> 01:01:49,493
Speaker 3: My point is, at the risk of your twenty five

1290
01:01:49,533 --> 01:01:52,893
Speaker 3: year old liver are dwarfed by the risk of social isolation.

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01:01:53,093 --> 01:01:53,773
Speaker 4: So is he right?

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty teen eighty is that number

1293
01:01:55,893 --> 01:01:57,293
Speaker 3: to call? And if you want to send a text,

1294
01:01:57,373 --> 01:02:00,133
Speaker 3: ninety two ninety two is that text number?

1295
01:02:01,773 --> 01:02:04,453
Speaker 2: Khan, you want to have a chat about the dangers

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01:02:04,493 --> 01:02:12,613
Speaker 2: of promoting alcohol cheapest I'll tell you what. These these

1297
01:02:12,653 --> 01:02:14,453
Speaker 2: birds in the background are good for my mental health.

1298
01:02:15,973 --> 01:02:17,053
Speaker 4: That is lovely, isn't it?

1299
01:02:17,093 --> 01:02:18,293
Speaker 2: An ovary? I mean an Avery?

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01:02:18,413 --> 01:02:19,213
Speaker 4: I wonder where he is.

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01:02:19,373 --> 01:02:21,813
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's not an overy. Well, well, all the best

1302
01:02:21,813 --> 01:02:22,693
Speaker 2: to car for he is?

1303
01:02:23,013 --> 01:02:24,173
Speaker 4: Can can you hear me?

1304
01:02:24,453 --> 01:02:25,053
Speaker 2: Avery?

1305
01:02:25,573 --> 01:02:26,093
Speaker 4: No?

1306
01:02:26,133 --> 01:02:27,773
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll try. I'll try.

1307
01:02:27,933 --> 01:02:28,653
Speaker 4: I lost to the birds.

1308
01:02:28,693 --> 01:02:31,573
Speaker 2: I'll try one loud yell okay.

1309
01:02:31,693 --> 01:02:36,253
Speaker 4: Gone gone, gone gone.

1310
01:02:36,573 --> 01:02:38,533
Speaker 3: No, No, he's lost to the birds. We'll try and

1311
01:02:38,533 --> 01:02:39,333
Speaker 3: get cone back.

1312
01:02:40,173 --> 01:02:45,013
Speaker 2: Peter, welcome to the showy.

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01:02:42,853 --> 01:02:50,453
Speaker 11: Say you don't very well? I was looking before and

1314
01:02:50,493 --> 01:02:55,933
Speaker 11: we're talking about alcohol. Alcohol gets damage to the drinking.

1315
01:02:56,373 --> 01:02:59,613
Speaker 11: You know, they're doing too much damage. And we've been

1316
01:02:59,613 --> 01:03:01,773
Speaker 11: involved in the alcohol industry for a while, so do

1317
01:03:01,813 --> 01:03:05,453
Speaker 11: you have a fist of interest? I think they've done

1318
01:03:06,293 --> 01:03:11,093
Speaker 11: a reasonable job at changing the culture, and we needed

1319
01:03:11,093 --> 01:03:16,973
Speaker 11: to change the culture. But we're now seeing the extreme

1320
01:03:17,053 --> 01:03:25,173
Speaker 11: behaviors start to come out, things like there's no safe

1321
01:03:25,173 --> 01:03:28,493
Speaker 11: limits and alcohol causes cancer and all of the stuff

1322
01:03:28,493 --> 01:03:30,373
Speaker 11: that you're starting to see on trends go on in

1323
01:03:30,413 --> 01:03:33,093
Speaker 11: Melbourne and various other bits and pieces. And I think

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01:03:33,133 --> 01:03:38,133
Speaker 11: that's inherently damaging because it does mean that effectively, people

1325
01:03:38,173 --> 01:03:40,573
Speaker 11: don't feel like they can go out and socialize and

1326
01:03:40,613 --> 01:03:43,893
Speaker 11: can have a drink because they're constantly counting drinks or

1327
01:03:44,533 --> 01:03:47,773
Speaker 11: or checking themselves because there is no safe limits or

1328
01:03:48,133 --> 01:03:50,373
Speaker 11: you know, are they going to die? Tenser and Bobus time.

1329
01:03:53,053 --> 01:03:55,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so do you think that the you know,

1330
01:03:56,133 --> 01:04:00,413
Speaker 2: the loneliness as your point that that we've gone too

1331
01:04:00,453 --> 01:04:03,973
Speaker 2: far and it's not a zero sum game and some

1332
01:04:03,973 --> 01:04:09,013
Speaker 2: people are pushing zero alcohol. But but as as a result,

1333
01:04:09,373 --> 01:04:12,493
Speaker 2: the good that came from alcohol around you know, socializing

1334
01:04:12,653 --> 01:04:17,173
Speaker 2: and and you know, the combating of loneliness and the

1335
01:04:17,213 --> 01:04:22,373
Speaker 2: connection is being lost in the in the conversation. Is

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01:04:22,373 --> 01:04:23,693
Speaker 2: that Is that what you're saying, Peter.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely. I mean the days of going out to

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Speaker 11: the the pub well your mates for a beer. You're

1339
01:04:32,933 --> 01:04:36,653
Speaker 11: almost in some in some circles villified for doing that

1340
01:04:37,133 --> 01:04:41,493
Speaker 11: because because it's you know, it's it's simply not safe.

1341
01:04:41,733 --> 01:04:45,893
Speaker 11: And it needs to be a balance between having a

1342
01:04:45,973 --> 01:04:49,853
Speaker 11: social numbricant like a beer and going out having one

1343
01:04:49,893 --> 01:04:54,533
Speaker 11: or two and feeling okay about doing that. Rather than

1344
01:04:54,933 --> 01:04:58,533
Speaker 11: have this constant messaging coming back from any the alcohol

1345
01:04:58,533 --> 01:05:04,653
Speaker 11: lobby's lobbyists to say, oh, look, you know, you have

1346
01:05:04,733 --> 01:05:08,533
Speaker 11: to be aware of exactly how much you're drinking two

1347
01:05:08,533 --> 01:05:11,533
Speaker 11: a week, because if you have four strands of drinks

1348
01:05:11,533 --> 01:05:16,453
Speaker 11: in a four hour session versus six drinks and a

1349
01:05:16,493 --> 01:05:20,133
Speaker 11: four hour session, one's okay and the other one you're

1350
01:05:20,133 --> 01:05:23,293
Speaker 11: a Ben's drinker. Therefore you are a problem.

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01:05:24,013 --> 01:05:26,773
Speaker 3: Is that part of the issue that we do have

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01:05:26,813 --> 01:05:29,853
Speaker 3: in some circles, Peter, is particularly for younger, younger guys

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01:05:29,933 --> 01:05:33,813
Speaker 3: and younger females for that matter, that the idea of

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01:05:33,933 --> 01:05:37,533
Speaker 3: one or two is not really a thing. You know,

1355
01:05:37,573 --> 01:05:39,813
Speaker 3: there are some and I'm not knocking younger people here,

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01:05:39,893 --> 01:05:42,293
Speaker 3: but certainly when I was in my twenties, it wasn't

1357
01:05:42,293 --> 01:05:43,693
Speaker 3: really a thing that you just go out for a

1358
01:05:43,693 --> 01:05:45,773
Speaker 3: couple of beers unless it was on a Sunday afternoon

1359
01:05:45,853 --> 01:05:47,613
Speaker 3: that you went out and you had at a few

1360
01:05:47,653 --> 01:05:50,093
Speaker 3: more than that. And for some people that caused a

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01:05:50,093 --> 01:05:51,173
Speaker 3: bit too much damage.

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01:05:52,293 --> 01:05:55,293
Speaker 11: I think. I think that's what been for lack of

1363
01:05:55,453 --> 01:05:58,133
Speaker 11: energy on the anti alcohol lobby have done really well.

1364
01:05:58,173 --> 01:06:03,293
Speaker 11: They've changed that excuse me, that narrative or that that culture,

1365
01:06:03,333 --> 01:06:05,773
Speaker 11: and I'm certainly seeing in amongst lots of young people

1366
01:06:05,933 --> 01:06:09,693
Speaker 11: now where there are abstinence last longer or is. When

1367
01:06:09,693 --> 01:06:12,373
Speaker 11: I was growing up, the drinking ages was twenty and

1368
01:06:12,453 --> 01:06:15,013
Speaker 11: I was still you know, going into bottle stores and

1369
01:06:15,013 --> 01:06:16,973
Speaker 11: trying to buy it when I was sixteen and various

1370
01:06:16,973 --> 01:06:19,253
Speaker 11: other things. What you see now is a very clear

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01:06:20,053 --> 01:06:24,013
Speaker 11: abstinence for much longer amongst young people, and that's that's

1372
01:06:24,013 --> 01:06:27,453
Speaker 11: got to be a good thing. I think where the

1373
01:06:27,533 --> 01:06:33,213
Speaker 11: line's been crossed though, is simply saying it's okay to

1374
01:06:33,253 --> 01:06:35,253
Speaker 11: go and have a beer or a couple, or it's

1375
01:06:35,293 --> 01:06:37,413
Speaker 11: okay to have too much once in a while, don't

1376
01:06:37,413 --> 01:06:40,373
Speaker 11: make it, don't make it a regular thing, and it's

1377
01:06:40,413 --> 01:06:42,293
Speaker 11: okay to make the stakes and all of that stuff

1378
01:06:42,333 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 11: has been lost, and those growing pains for lack of

1379
01:06:47,013 --> 01:06:51,133
Speaker 11: a better term, have been lost, not specifically around alcohol,

1380
01:06:51,173 --> 01:06:55,773
Speaker 11: but you know, being in the bar and socializing with

1381
01:06:55,853 --> 01:07:00,293
Speaker 11: people and understanding what makes up different people and how

1382
01:07:00,333 --> 01:07:03,173
Speaker 11: to interact with difference on different people on different levels.

1383
01:07:03,533 --> 01:07:05,213
Speaker 11: All of that has now gone.

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01:07:06,053 --> 01:07:08,493
Speaker 2: Do you have you noticed? You know, you're in the

1385
01:07:08,493 --> 01:07:11,173
Speaker 2: industry and we're getting a lot of texts coming through

1386
01:07:11,213 --> 01:07:13,653
Speaker 2: here and saying it's not so much that kids are

1387
01:07:14,253 --> 01:07:20,173
Speaker 2: sobering up, it's that they're choosing illegal drugs, so MDMA

1388
01:07:20,853 --> 01:07:25,693
Speaker 2: and cocaine and meth, and that that kids have you know,

1389
01:07:25,733 --> 01:07:27,173
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have the stats on this,

1390
01:07:27,893 --> 01:07:29,893
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of people texting through that it's

1391
01:07:29,893 --> 01:07:32,253
Speaker 2: not so much that kids are cleaner, it's just that

1392
01:07:32,293 --> 01:07:34,933
Speaker 2: they're going for other stuff, and that that kids still

1393
01:07:34,933 --> 01:07:37,973
Speaker 2: have this desire to get wasted, they're just getting wasted

1394
01:07:38,013 --> 01:07:39,693
Speaker 2: in a different way. I mean, is there anything that

1395
01:07:39,733 --> 01:07:41,333
Speaker 2: you're seeing around that, Peter.

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01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:45,573
Speaker 11: Yeah, one undred percent. And I think the challenge is

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01:07:45,613 --> 01:07:48,413
Speaker 11: the one thing that we measure them with like meticulous

1398
01:07:48,853 --> 01:07:55,333
Speaker 11: accuracy is alcohol and alcohol hearts, Whereas what young people

1399
01:07:55,333 --> 01:07:58,853
Speaker 11: are interested in is bang for buck. So if I

1400
01:07:58,933 --> 01:08:05,013
Speaker 11: can go and buy the bottle of unknown wine, say

1401
01:08:05,173 --> 01:08:09,093
Speaker 11: or twenty MDMA tablet that lasts longer and it has

1402
01:08:09,093 --> 01:08:13,573
Speaker 11: a much better, a cleaner impact, That's what I'm going

1403
01:08:13,653 --> 01:08:20,813
Speaker 11: to do. And certainly amongst my kids here group and

1404
01:08:20,893 --> 01:08:24,253
Speaker 11: they're they're in that eighteen between year old category, it

1405
01:08:24,333 --> 01:08:26,652
Speaker 11: is a very real thing and a very real problem.

1406
01:08:27,253 --> 01:08:31,333
Speaker 11: And we've spent all of this energy on alcohol is

1407
01:08:31,372 --> 01:08:33,732
Speaker 11: the you know, alcohol is the devil for lack of

1408
01:08:33,772 --> 01:08:36,692
Speaker 11: a better term, We've forgot about all of this other

1409
01:08:36,812 --> 01:08:39,572
Speaker 11: stuff that that kids need to be educated on and

1410
01:08:39,612 --> 01:08:42,732
Speaker 11: young adults need to be editated on. In terms of

1411
01:08:42,853 --> 01:08:46,372
Speaker 11: in terms of life, and you know, potentially the dangers

1412
01:08:46,612 --> 01:08:49,892
Speaker 11: the poorly mixed drugs, which is what I talk to

1413
01:08:49,933 --> 01:08:52,892
Speaker 11: my kids a lot about, you know, and you don't

1414
01:08:52,933 --> 01:08:54,452
Speaker 11: know what it is that you're take it, whereas with

1415
01:08:54,492 --> 01:08:58,532
Speaker 11: alcohol is a level of certainty that you yeah.

1416
01:08:58,412 --> 01:09:00,492
Speaker 3: Just I mean, just going back to the thing on

1417
01:09:00,572 --> 01:09:03,293
Speaker 3: alcohol as well, that the point Scott Galloway made at

1418
01:09:03,333 --> 01:09:05,172
Speaker 3: the end that go out and make some bad decisions,

1419
01:09:05,213 --> 01:09:06,932
Speaker 3: and that well, you know, it's already upset a few

1420
01:09:06,973 --> 01:09:09,692
Speaker 3: people on the text, but part of me thinks that

1421
01:09:09,893 --> 01:09:12,492
Speaker 3: is quite a compelling argument. And you mentioned to Peter

1422
01:09:12,572 --> 01:09:15,492
Speaker 3: that when you're young, that is your time to go

1423
01:09:15,532 --> 01:09:18,133
Speaker 3: out and make a series of decisions that might not

1424
01:09:18,213 --> 01:09:20,053
Speaker 3: turn out well at the time, but then you look

1425
01:09:20,093 --> 01:09:23,452
Speaker 3: back on that as a learning experience and sometimes quite

1426
01:09:23,492 --> 01:09:26,372
Speaker 3: often they are a massive bonding experiences with people you

1427
01:09:26,452 --> 01:09:28,532
Speaker 3: may stay friends with for the rest of your life.

1428
01:09:29,692 --> 01:09:31,532
Speaker 11: Yeah, it doesn't mean you need to go out and

1429
01:09:31,532 --> 01:09:35,532
Speaker 11: you absolutely hamm it. It makes some bad decisions. You know,

1430
01:09:35,612 --> 01:09:40,293
Speaker 11: we make bad decisions every day, and they become war

1431
01:09:40,372 --> 01:09:43,492
Speaker 11: stories that you share with people in a social environment.

1432
01:09:43,492 --> 01:09:48,692
Speaker 11: But I also think it's really mentally, it's really important

1433
01:09:48,732 --> 01:09:50,933
Speaker 11: for your mental well being to have a group of

1434
01:09:50,933 --> 01:09:53,892
Speaker 11: people where you can share those things that didn't go

1435
01:09:54,013 --> 01:09:56,892
Speaker 11: so well or you you know, it's a war story

1436
01:09:56,973 --> 01:09:59,852
Speaker 11: or whatever. And I think that's kind of where you

1437
01:09:59,893 --> 01:10:04,173
Speaker 11: guys are coming from. That's that just socialization of having around,

1438
01:10:04,612 --> 01:10:06,532
Speaker 11: standing around, having a deal with your mates, whether it's

1439
01:10:06,532 --> 01:10:11,372
Speaker 11: your backyard or a bar or whatever. Those can be

1440
01:10:11,492 --> 01:10:16,412
Speaker 11: really socially cleansing and really good for your mental health

1441
01:10:16,452 --> 01:10:16,852
Speaker 11: as well.

1442
01:10:17,732 --> 01:10:21,213
Speaker 2: Peter, working in the alcohol industry, obviously there are these

1443
01:10:21,253 --> 01:10:24,972
Speaker 2: harms and and you see them, and there's there's obviously

1444
01:10:25,013 --> 01:10:26,932
Speaker 2: that the terrible things that happen on the road, and

1445
01:10:26,973 --> 01:10:31,612
Speaker 2: there's there's alcohol harm right through the community. Did you

1446
01:10:31,692 --> 01:10:35,692
Speaker 2: ever weigh that up in that that's the industry that

1447
01:10:35,732 --> 01:10:38,293
Speaker 2: you make money in. Did you ever have any guilt

1448
01:10:38,333 --> 01:10:42,133
Speaker 2: around that side of alcohol and the people that don't

1449
01:10:42,213 --> 01:10:44,412
Speaker 2: use it in a sensible fashion.

1450
01:10:46,412 --> 01:10:48,293
Speaker 11: Because I've spent a long time working to the other

1451
01:10:48,333 --> 01:10:52,572
Speaker 11: side as well, so I've seen both sides. And what

1452
01:10:52,612 --> 01:10:55,612
Speaker 11: I will say about working in the alcohol industry is

1453
01:10:56,652 --> 01:11:01,652
Speaker 11: by and large, the alcohol industry want and and people

1454
01:11:01,692 --> 01:11:05,532
Speaker 11: advocating against the alcohol industry they want the same thing.

1455
01:11:05,732 --> 01:11:08,812
Speaker 11: They want a safe environment, They want is a bar

1456
01:11:08,933 --> 01:11:12,093
Speaker 11: wants that bars want safe environments for people to go to.

1457
01:11:12,692 --> 01:11:17,812
Speaker 11: Everybody's after the same thing. What we have done, by

1458
01:11:17,933 --> 01:11:25,452
Speaker 11: default is draw better lines. So therefore, if I say

1459
01:11:25,492 --> 01:11:28,213
Speaker 11: something as somebody who's now from the industry, that was

1460
01:11:28,253 --> 01:11:30,293
Speaker 11: exactly that was what I said when I was working

1461
01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:33,933
Speaker 11: on the other side, it doesn't have any It's not

1462
01:11:34,013 --> 01:11:38,092
Speaker 11: valid in any way, shape or form, because I'm alwaysing

1463
01:11:38,173 --> 01:11:40,133
Speaker 11: for the industry, Whereas if I said exactly the same

1464
01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:42,572
Speaker 11: thing when I was working on the other side, that

1465
01:11:42,612 --> 01:11:49,093
Speaker 11: would have been you know, the pedacea. So I get

1466
01:11:49,093 --> 01:11:56,933
Speaker 11: where you're coming from that. But ultimately, all alcohol is

1467
01:11:57,053 --> 01:11:59,612
Speaker 11: is something that's in the camp and how we choose

1468
01:11:59,612 --> 01:12:03,652
Speaker 11: to use it is what's with the decision. But where

1469
01:12:03,652 --> 01:12:07,532
Speaker 11: a decision making an individual comes in and we seem

1470
01:12:07,572 --> 01:12:14,133
Speaker 11: to have moved away from personal responsibility, personal accountability, a spike,

1471
01:12:14,213 --> 01:12:16,093
Speaker 11: the fact that everybody's owning for the same time.

1472
01:12:16,492 --> 01:12:17,772
Speaker 2: I thank you so much for you four Peter, do

1473
01:12:17,772 --> 01:12:19,932
Speaker 2: you agree? One hundred and eighty teen eighty nine two

1474
01:12:20,053 --> 01:12:21,092
Speaker 2: nine two is the text number?

1475
01:12:21,173 --> 01:12:25,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, very interesting, It is fourteen to three. Beg very shortly.

1476
01:12:25,853 --> 01:12:27,772
Speaker 3: You're listening to Met and Tyler Good afternoons Yeah.

1477
01:12:27,652 --> 01:12:30,572
Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on talk back. It's Matt Heath

1478
01:12:30,612 --> 01:12:34,173
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred

1479
01:12:34,213 --> 01:12:35,253
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty you.

1480
01:12:35,452 --> 01:12:39,133
Speaker 3: Talk b It is eleven to three nineteen nine two

1481
01:12:39,253 --> 01:12:41,133
Speaker 3: is the text number. We'll get to a few of

1482
01:12:41,133 --> 01:12:41,692
Speaker 3: those shortly.

1483
01:12:42,812 --> 01:12:45,253
Speaker 2: Steve, welcome to show your thoughts on us.

1484
01:12:45,812 --> 01:12:48,972
Speaker 20: Hi, guys, you're the best on one's Z'B. Just let

1485
01:12:49,013 --> 01:12:49,452
Speaker 20: you know that.

1486
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:52,452
Speaker 4: Oh you're a good man, Steve. You sound pretty good yourself, he.

1487
01:12:52,572 --> 01:12:53,133
Speaker 20: Raised about it.

1488
01:12:54,612 --> 01:12:59,333
Speaker 15: Yeah, hopefully I can articulate sort of my thoughts because

1489
01:12:59,652 --> 01:13:03,932
Speaker 15: been so many good conversations that you've had, and one

1490
01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:07,253
Speaker 15: of the things that the guy just brought up sort

1491
01:13:07,333 --> 01:13:13,613
Speaker 15: of touched on. I think there's actually a very big difference.

1492
01:13:14,692 --> 01:13:18,612
Speaker 15: I'm fifty nine, and if I go to give you

1493
01:13:18,612 --> 01:13:23,293
Speaker 15: a little bit of background into my drinking started very

1494
01:13:23,412 --> 01:13:26,333
Speaker 15: very young, member being drunk for the first time at

1495
01:13:26,412 --> 01:13:29,973
Speaker 15: eight years old. By the time I was seteen, I

1496
01:13:30,013 --> 01:13:35,372
Speaker 15: was drinking regularly. Got married at twenty three, drunk through

1497
01:13:35,412 --> 01:13:37,852
Speaker 15: all that. My wife was a big drinker as well,

1498
01:13:38,053 --> 01:13:41,133
Speaker 15: got divorced and then I really hit it. Ended up

1499
01:13:41,133 --> 01:13:47,372
Speaker 15: doing four reheads and the biggest change that I made

1500
01:13:47,452 --> 01:13:50,293
Speaker 15: in my life was moving away from the people that

1501
01:13:50,333 --> 01:13:52,973
Speaker 15: I was drinking with because.

1502
01:13:54,173 --> 01:13:55,532
Speaker 20: Got to that stage of like.

1503
01:13:56,532 --> 01:14:00,173
Speaker 15: Only hanging around people who were willing to do the

1504
01:14:00,213 --> 01:14:05,293
Speaker 15: same sort of drinking. And when you step back from it,

1505
01:14:05,372 --> 01:14:09,892
Speaker 15: you've basically one percent of the population when you're in

1506
01:14:09,893 --> 01:14:16,333
Speaker 15: that group, and so you think it's normal. It comes

1507
01:14:16,333 --> 01:14:19,132
Speaker 15: with normality about it, and we're talking on a daily

1508
01:14:19,173 --> 01:14:22,932
Speaker 15: basis here, but when you step back away from it,

1509
01:14:23,013 --> 01:14:26,773
Speaker 15: and I took myself away from it probably twelve.

1510
01:14:26,652 --> 01:14:28,092
Speaker 20: Fifteen years ago now.

1511
01:14:30,372 --> 01:14:36,492
Speaker 15: And basically cut myself off from the people that become

1512
01:14:36,532 --> 01:14:42,772
Speaker 15: associated with. But now I live a very lonely life

1513
01:14:43,293 --> 01:14:48,213
Speaker 15: now it's my choice to do that, but it's there's

1514
01:14:48,253 --> 01:14:57,292
Speaker 15: a difficulty in reconnecting with society as a very difficult

1515
01:14:58,253 --> 01:15:02,333
Speaker 15: I go, yeah, I can go all week and now

1516
01:15:02,452 --> 01:15:05,852
Speaker 15: in communication that I'll have with unfortunate that I've still

1517
01:15:05,893 --> 01:15:08,813
Speaker 15: got parentss that they're very old now.

1518
01:15:09,732 --> 01:15:13,253
Speaker 20: So it's a couple of friends that I might keep

1519
01:15:13,253 --> 01:15:14,052
Speaker 20: in touch with.

1520
01:15:14,772 --> 01:15:19,532
Speaker 15: You know, maybe on a two monthly, three monthly basis,

1521
01:15:20,333 --> 01:15:25,933
Speaker 15: and family and that's it, apart from a better communication,

1522
01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:29,532
Speaker 15: you know, going to do the grocery shopping and talking

1523
01:15:29,572 --> 01:15:35,293
Speaker 15: to the counter out, you know, person on The communication

1524
01:15:36,013 --> 01:15:40,732
Speaker 15: that I have now is very, very limited, And the

1525
01:15:40,772 --> 01:15:44,092
Speaker 15: biggest thing I'd like to reiterate to is that anyone

1526
01:15:44,213 --> 01:15:47,732
Speaker 15: who's out there that is struggling with alcohol, have a

1527
01:15:47,732 --> 01:15:51,612
Speaker 15: look at what you're doing. Have a look at the

1528
01:15:51,692 --> 01:15:56,133
Speaker 15: friends you're losing. Because that was the hardest thing for me,

1529
01:15:57,372 --> 01:16:00,252
Speaker 15: is losing lifelong friends.

1530
01:16:01,732 --> 01:16:05,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you have you tried a bunch of other stuff,

1531
01:16:05,612 --> 01:16:08,812
Speaker 2: have you? You know, you know, gym's clubs, that that

1532
01:16:08,893 --> 01:16:09,412
Speaker 2: kind of thing.

1533
01:16:10,412 --> 01:16:12,893
Speaker 20: Yeah, volunteering used to be used to it.

1534
01:16:13,093 --> 01:16:16,932
Speaker 15: Yeah, don't all work? Yeah, done, did a lot of it. Actually,

1535
01:16:17,812 --> 01:16:20,372
Speaker 15: gym's like a bug out to the gym.

1536
01:16:20,412 --> 01:16:23,132
Speaker 11: I'm working out and it's.

1537
01:16:22,973 --> 01:16:26,093
Speaker 2: Not Did you think that? Do you think with gyms now?

1538
01:16:26,133 --> 01:16:28,213
Speaker 2: I was just just thought, sorry to speak over you, Steve,

1539
01:16:28,293 --> 01:16:30,612
Speaker 2: But gym's now and a lot of these things people

1540
01:16:30,692 --> 01:16:32,293
Speaker 2: go go to this, go do this and you and

1541
01:16:32,372 --> 01:16:33,933
Speaker 2: you meet people. But a lot of times when you

1542
01:16:34,013 --> 01:16:36,133
Speaker 2: do these things, everyone's got their headphones on now so

1543
01:16:36,933 --> 01:16:39,732
Speaker 2: oh absolutely so people are isolated even though they're out

1544
01:16:39,772 --> 01:16:43,333
Speaker 2: in public. So so you know, you haven't got alcohol

1545
01:16:43,372 --> 01:16:46,372
Speaker 2: to get over that that social barrier. And then also

1546
01:16:46,372 --> 01:16:48,892
Speaker 2: if you talk to someone they can't hear you. You know,

1547
01:16:48,933 --> 01:16:51,253
Speaker 2: they look taking the air thing out and go what yeah.

1548
01:16:51,812 --> 01:16:56,933
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah yeah. And in that regards the technology, that

1549
01:16:57,133 --> 01:16:58,772
Speaker 15: sort of just sort of picked up a little bit

1550
01:16:58,812 --> 01:17:02,812
Speaker 15: on the on the last caller, I.

1551
01:17:02,732 --> 01:17:09,293
Speaker 20: Had a thought that younger people today so drink and

1552
01:17:09,372 --> 01:17:12,053
Speaker 20: my day. God. You know, I have a lot of

1553
01:17:12,093 --> 01:17:14,772
Speaker 20: regrets of the stupid things I did. And you said

1554
01:17:14,812 --> 01:17:15,093
Speaker 20: it in that.

1555
01:17:15,412 --> 01:17:18,572
Speaker 15: Now, if that was recorded and then put it on

1556
01:17:18,612 --> 01:17:21,333
Speaker 15: social media, that's a total difference story.

1557
01:17:23,093 --> 01:17:23,812
Speaker 20: We didn't have that.

1558
01:17:24,093 --> 01:17:30,852
Speaker 2: Yeah, social Yeah, there's a social cost. I wonder if

1559
01:17:30,853 --> 01:17:33,213
Speaker 2: you're write, Steve, and I wonder if people see themselves

1560
01:17:33,652 --> 01:17:37,452
Speaker 2: and on video early and that that's another reason why

1561
01:17:37,452 --> 01:17:39,652
Speaker 2: they don't want to drink as much. Yeah, hey Steve, Sorry,

1562
01:17:39,652 --> 01:17:41,333
Speaker 2: we've got to go in air break. But thank you

1563
01:17:41,333 --> 01:17:43,532
Speaker 2: so much for calling and sharing that with us and

1564
01:17:43,772 --> 01:17:45,572
Speaker 2: call anytime, Steve. Really appreciate it.

1565
01:17:46,253 --> 01:17:48,692
Speaker 3: Thanks, cheers, mate, what a good man. Right, We're going

1566
01:17:48,732 --> 01:17:50,892
Speaker 3: to play some messages six to three back in the moth.

1567
01:17:51,812 --> 01:17:54,253
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1568
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1570
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1571
01:18:05,372 --> 01:18:08,732
Speaker 3: to all the text and phone calls coming through. It's true,

1572
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Speaker 3: it's been a great discussion and there's a couple of

1573
01:18:12,053 --> 01:18:14,892
Speaker 3: texts that we will get to very shortly as well.

1574
01:18:14,933 --> 01:18:17,852
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1576
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1577
01:18:26,293 --> 01:18:29,372
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams Afternoons on news Talk.

1578
01:18:29,492 --> 01:18:32,972
Speaker 3: Sebby very good afternoons to you. Welcome back into the show.

1579
01:18:33,093 --> 01:18:35,692
Speaker 3: Seven past three, and we have for the last couple

1580
01:18:35,732 --> 01:18:39,092
Speaker 3: of hours I've been chatting about some comments American professor,

1581
01:18:39,173 --> 01:18:42,093
Speaker 3: best selling author Scott Galloway made on Real Time with

1582
01:18:42,173 --> 01:18:45,932
Speaker 3: Bill maher Or in America. So here's the quote he said,

1583
01:18:45,973 --> 01:18:47,812
Speaker 3: and it's to do with young men and young people

1584
01:18:47,812 --> 01:18:49,812
Speaker 3: in particularly. He said, in my view, the worst thing

1585
01:18:49,853 --> 01:18:52,852
Speaker 3: that's happened to young people is the anti alcohol movement.

1586
01:18:52,893 --> 01:18:54,492
Speaker 3: My point is that the rest of your twenty five

1587
01:18:54,572 --> 01:18:56,732
Speaker 3: year old liver are dwarfed by the risk of social

1588
01:18:56,772 --> 01:19:00,053
Speaker 3: isolation in some Think of all the amazing relationships you've

1589
01:19:00,053 --> 01:19:02,333
Speaker 3: had in your life, and be honest, did alcohol play

1590
01:19:02,372 --> 01:19:04,732
Speaker 3: a role in some get out drink more and make

1591
01:19:04,772 --> 01:19:06,892
Speaker 3: a series of bad decisions that might pay off.

1592
01:19:07,053 --> 01:19:07,253
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1593
01:19:07,253 --> 01:19:09,372
Speaker 2: So we've had a lot of chat back and forth

1594
01:19:09,452 --> 01:19:11,692
Speaker 2: on this, people that think he's an idiot, and people

1595
01:19:11,732 --> 01:19:15,293
Speaker 2: that agree with him, and people in the middle. And look,

1596
01:19:15,333 --> 01:19:17,492
Speaker 2: I've said a bunch of things and they've potentially been

1597
01:19:17,532 --> 01:19:19,213
Speaker 2: taken the wrong way or the right way. I mean,

1598
01:19:19,213 --> 01:19:21,253
Speaker 2: people can take what I say whatever way they want.

1599
01:19:21,933 --> 01:19:24,452
Speaker 2: But I just thought i'd spend the news break just

1600
01:19:24,492 --> 01:19:26,932
Speaker 2: writing down my thoughts, yep, because try and bring everything

1601
01:19:26,933 --> 01:19:28,932
Speaker 2: that together. Because I feel like I've learned a bit

1602
01:19:29,412 --> 01:19:32,253
Speaker 2: in the last hour. So here we go. Here's something

1603
01:19:32,412 --> 01:19:33,412
Speaker 2: I just scribble down.

1604
01:19:33,532 --> 01:19:34,652
Speaker 4: Okay, here it is.

1605
01:19:34,893 --> 01:19:38,412
Speaker 2: So I don't think Prof. G is really saying drink more.

1606
01:19:38,853 --> 01:19:42,213
Speaker 2: He's just pointing out something not good in the Western world,

1607
01:19:42,612 --> 01:19:45,132
Speaker 2: which includes our beautiful little country. Young people are drinking

1608
01:19:45,213 --> 01:19:48,293
Speaker 2: less than any generation before them. And that sounds great

1609
01:19:48,333 --> 01:19:50,852
Speaker 2: until you put it into the next fact that loneliness

1610
01:19:50,893 --> 01:19:53,013
Speaker 2: has doubled and we're now in New Zealand, one of

1611
01:19:53,013 --> 01:19:57,412
Speaker 2: the most isolated countries in the OECD. Maybe they're not

1612
01:19:57,412 --> 01:20:00,572
Speaker 2: pissing up because they're wis dart. Maybe they're just not

1613
01:20:00,692 --> 01:20:03,412
Speaker 2: going out at all and seeing mates even a little bit,

1614
01:20:03,612 --> 01:20:06,932
Speaker 2: not dating, not playing sport. They're at home, having their

1615
01:20:06,973 --> 01:20:10,532
Speaker 2: instincts for connection, and both friends and romantically gamed for

1616
01:20:10,612 --> 01:20:14,692
Speaker 2: cash by big tech. And look, no one wants the blackout, drunk,

1617
01:20:14,772 --> 01:20:18,052
Speaker 2: fire trucking, carnage side of drinking. But lack of social

1618
01:20:18,053 --> 01:20:22,573
Speaker 2: connection is also a huge health risk mentally, physically, and economically.

1619
01:20:23,333 --> 01:20:25,053
Speaker 2: And if the choice for a twenty two year old

1620
01:20:25,133 --> 01:20:28,052
Speaker 2: is another night doom scrolling and watching adult content alone,

1621
01:20:28,492 --> 01:20:31,133
Speaker 2: or a couple of drinks with actual human beings, one

1622
01:20:31,133 --> 01:20:33,852
Speaker 2: of which might turn out to be a significant other

1623
01:20:34,053 --> 01:20:37,692
Speaker 2: for life, leading to family and community, the bigger danger

1624
01:20:37,692 --> 01:20:40,653
Speaker 2: It might not be the bears. It might be that isolation.

1625
01:20:41,293 --> 01:20:44,293
Speaker 2: Alcohol probably shouldn't be the only fix for loneliness we

1626
01:20:44,333 --> 01:20:47,253
Speaker 2: seek out, but we can't lecture young people back into

1627
01:20:47,253 --> 01:20:52,293
Speaker 2: connection without giving them any real non online community. It

1628
01:20:52,372 --> 01:20:54,892
Speaker 2: seems that moderate alcohol use might not be the best

1629
01:20:54,933 --> 01:20:58,213
Speaker 2: thing ever. But if it's that or doom scrolling alone

1630
01:20:58,213 --> 01:21:01,772
Speaker 2: in your bedroom rotting rather than being rotten like that

1631
01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:05,612
Speaker 2: texting mother said, it might be the lesser of two evils.

1632
01:21:05,772 --> 01:21:08,892
Speaker 3: Nice yeah, nicely, pot very very very good. And what

1633
01:21:08,933 --> 01:21:12,013
Speaker 3: a discussion that was at the last two hours and

1634
01:21:12,053 --> 01:21:14,613
Speaker 3: this will be an interesting discussion as well. So Netflix

1635
01:21:14,652 --> 01:21:17,452
Speaker 3: big news over the weekend is set to acquire Warner

1636
01:21:17,452 --> 01:21:19,732
Speaker 3: Brothers and HBO Max And a one hundred and twenty

1637
01:21:19,732 --> 01:21:22,692
Speaker 3: five billion dollar deal that's in New Zealand dollars. So

1638
01:21:22,732 --> 01:21:25,772
Speaker 3: it will reshape the global streaming landscape with potential impacts

1639
01:21:25,812 --> 01:21:29,293
Speaker 3: on how and where New Zealanders see their favorite shows.

1640
01:21:29,652 --> 01:21:33,612
Speaker 3: But after the deal, Netflix co CEO Ted Sarandos, he

1641
01:21:33,652 --> 01:21:36,532
Speaker 3: made some very controversial comments, and here they are. He

1642
01:21:36,572 --> 01:21:40,772
Speaker 3: said Netflix was saving Hollywood and went on to claim

1643
01:21:40,933 --> 01:21:45,093
Speaker 3: that going to the movies is an outdated concept and

1644
01:21:45,173 --> 01:21:48,692
Speaker 3: an out modern idea. He further suggested that that the

1645
01:21:48,772 --> 01:21:52,653
Speaker 3: struggling box officers proof people would prefer to watch movies

1646
01:21:52,692 --> 01:21:55,453
Speaker 3: at home rather than going to the cinema.

1647
01:21:55,532 --> 01:21:56,932
Speaker 4: I mean, they are some shots fired.

1648
01:21:57,572 --> 01:22:00,013
Speaker 2: Yeah so depressing, isn't it?

1649
01:22:00,173 --> 01:22:00,372
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1650
01:22:00,772 --> 01:22:04,052
Speaker 2: Really so? And you know he's got a vested interest

1651
01:22:04,093 --> 01:22:06,732
Speaker 2: in that, hasn't he that? Because Netflix they want you

1652
01:22:07,013 --> 01:22:08,452
Speaker 2: at home in front of the TV. They don't when

1653
01:22:08,452 --> 01:22:09,932
Speaker 2: you're going out to movie theaters. They don't care if

1654
01:22:09,933 --> 01:22:12,412
Speaker 2: the movies die. But are the movies in the movie

1655
01:22:12,492 --> 01:22:16,572
Speaker 2: theaters something to be saved? What do you think about

1656
01:22:16,572 --> 01:22:17,852
Speaker 2: going to the movies. I went to the movies the

1657
01:22:17,893 --> 01:22:20,173
Speaker 2: other day. I went to Predator bad Lands, and I

1658
01:22:20,293 --> 01:22:23,412
Speaker 2: loved the experience of it going to the movies. And

1659
01:22:23,452 --> 01:22:28,892
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers owns so many fantastic properties they own DC,

1660
01:22:29,732 --> 01:22:32,772
Speaker 2: So that means now Netflix owns the future of Batman. Yep,

1661
01:22:33,013 --> 01:22:35,812
Speaker 2: do you care about that? Future of Superman, future of

1662
01:22:36,093 --> 01:22:40,173
Speaker 2: Harry Potter, so many other great things. Christopher Nolans made

1663
01:22:40,213 --> 01:22:45,532
Speaker 2: his movies through Warner Brothers, So now that's all being bought.

1664
01:22:45,933 --> 01:22:49,293
Speaker 2: One of the most successful movie companies of all time,

1665
01:22:49,333 --> 01:22:51,572
Speaker 2: that has made some of the greatest movies and has

1666
01:22:51,772 --> 01:22:55,412
Speaker 2: had a real focus on the theater has now been

1667
01:22:55,452 --> 01:22:57,852
Speaker 2: bought by Netflix. And so they want to take that

1668
01:22:57,933 --> 01:23:00,133
Speaker 2: stuff out of the movies and they want to put

1669
01:23:00,173 --> 01:23:02,093
Speaker 2: it in your home, so no one goes out to

1670
01:23:02,133 --> 01:23:04,213
Speaker 2: the movies. It'skind of talks to social isolation a bit

1671
01:23:04,213 --> 01:23:04,572
Speaker 2: as well.

1672
01:23:04,692 --> 01:23:04,812
Speaker 10: Well.

1673
01:23:04,853 --> 01:23:06,852
Speaker 3: We definitely known that before, Yeah, And I think for

1674
01:23:06,893 --> 01:23:09,452
Speaker 3: a lot of people and probably me and pcluted, that

1675
01:23:09,692 --> 01:23:10,452
Speaker 3: is a sad thing.

1676
01:23:10,652 --> 01:23:12,333
Speaker 4: I was when I saw that news and.

1677
01:23:12,253 --> 01:23:13,892
Speaker 3: I've done a bit of a dive into it now,

1678
01:23:14,133 --> 01:23:16,612
Speaker 3: and initially when I saw the headline, I said, I

1679
01:23:16,692 --> 01:23:20,053
Speaker 3: know that's not a good thing. Particularly HBO Max and

1680
01:23:20,093 --> 01:23:22,812
Speaker 3: as you say, Warner Brothers fantastic movies through the generation.

1681
01:23:23,213 --> 01:23:25,333
Speaker 3: And I don't go to the cinema as much as

1682
01:23:25,333 --> 01:23:27,812
Speaker 3: I should. I know that, But the experience that I

1683
01:23:27,933 --> 01:23:31,372
Speaker 3: get at home is such a weak version of what

1684
01:23:31,612 --> 01:23:34,013
Speaker 3: it used to be. When you drag yourself out of

1685
01:23:34,013 --> 01:23:36,812
Speaker 3: your home, you get down, you buy the treats, you

1686
01:23:36,933 --> 01:23:40,732
Speaker 3: take your seat. The soundscape's amazing, it's a massive screen.

1687
01:23:40,812 --> 01:23:43,012
Speaker 3: People are cheering and laughing if the movie is good enough,

1688
01:23:43,213 --> 01:23:45,372
Speaker 3: or crying or screaming or whatever it is. It's that

1689
01:23:45,933 --> 01:23:50,012
Speaker 3: full on, immersive shared experience that you'll never get it home.

1690
01:23:50,093 --> 01:23:50,852
Speaker 4: You'll never get that.

1691
01:23:51,173 --> 01:23:54,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, And also artistically, there is something about the movie

1692
01:23:54,812 --> 01:23:58,892
Speaker 2: directors that make the films for the big screen, that

1693
01:23:59,013 --> 01:24:05,093
Speaker 2: make more meaningful products, more carefully created. There's something about

1694
01:24:05,133 --> 01:24:09,572
Speaker 2: the way Netflix makes things, or people that make money

1695
01:24:09,853 --> 01:24:12,253
Speaker 2: make films with Netflix money. I'm not sure it was.

1696
01:24:12,293 --> 01:24:14,852
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the model is where they just

1697
01:24:14,933 --> 01:24:19,172
Speaker 2: become slop so you're not going to get a batman

1698
01:24:19,893 --> 01:24:23,012
Speaker 2: like in my opinion, you know, sometimes that happens. Sometimes

1699
01:24:23,013 --> 01:24:28,013
Speaker 2: the streamers do make fantastic products. Absolutely, that's true. But

1700
01:24:28,133 --> 01:24:34,692
Speaker 2: generally speaking, a Netflix movie is a less quality, it's

1701
01:24:34,812 --> 01:24:38,973
Speaker 2: less artistic, it's less of a meaningful, lasting experience, in

1702
01:24:39,013 --> 01:24:42,693
Speaker 2: my opinion than things that are made to be projected

1703
01:24:42,772 --> 01:24:46,452
Speaker 2: onto a massive screen. I mean, can you see Netflix

1704
01:24:46,572 --> 01:24:49,532
Speaker 2: making the level of Batman that Christopher Nolan made with

1705
01:24:49,572 --> 01:24:51,053
Speaker 2: The Dark Knight Returns.

1706
01:24:50,973 --> 01:24:52,892
Speaker 4: Because there's no incentive for them to do that.

1707
01:24:52,973 --> 01:24:56,333
Speaker 2: Really, what they'll do is they'll make a series that

1708
01:24:56,492 --> 01:24:59,892
Speaker 2: has a really good first episode and maybe a half

1709
01:24:59,933 --> 01:25:02,532
Speaker 2: good second episode, but trust trying to keep you watching

1710
01:25:02,612 --> 01:25:04,612
Speaker 2: more and more so to get onto the next episode,

1711
01:25:04,652 --> 01:25:06,532
Speaker 2: and then there'll be four episodes in the middle where

1712
01:25:06,532 --> 01:25:08,333
Speaker 2: it just sort of plods along with nothing happening.

1713
01:25:08,452 --> 01:25:11,532
Speaker 3: Yeah, if anything, I would say that Netflix is actually

1714
01:25:11,532 --> 01:25:13,812
Speaker 3: starting to destroy entertainment. And I know there's some personal

1715
01:25:13,853 --> 01:25:16,933
Speaker 3: responsibility here, but there's a lot of truth. And if

1716
01:25:16,973 --> 01:25:19,572
Speaker 3: you're listening to this, guaranteed you've done it where you

1717
01:25:19,572 --> 01:25:22,012
Speaker 3: can't really decide what to watch on Netflix because there's

1718
01:25:22,013 --> 01:25:24,293
Speaker 3: so much option. But even if you find something that

1719
01:25:24,372 --> 01:25:27,052
Speaker 3: you like to watch, the fact that you're at home

1720
01:25:27,133 --> 01:25:28,972
Speaker 3: and you've got your phone next to you and you've

1721
01:25:29,013 --> 01:25:31,852
Speaker 3: got that little distraction device, Man, I do it all

1722
01:25:31,893 --> 01:25:34,372
Speaker 3: the time, and I hate myself for doing it because

1723
01:25:34,412 --> 01:25:38,213
Speaker 3: I am missing out on probably incredible storytelling, someone who's

1724
01:25:38,253 --> 01:25:41,852
Speaker 3: invested millions and millions and created many jobs creating this thing,

1725
01:25:41,893 --> 01:25:44,253
Speaker 3: whether it's a TV show or movie. And I can't

1726
01:25:44,333 --> 01:25:47,852
Speaker 3: drag myself away from doom scrolling on Instagram because apparently,

1727
01:25:48,133 --> 01:25:51,372
Speaker 3: you know I can't be. I don't have the attention

1728
01:25:51,492 --> 01:25:54,293
Speaker 3: span to sit in and lock in. When you're in

1729
01:25:54,333 --> 01:25:56,253
Speaker 3: a cinema. You are forced to do that, and the

1730
01:25:56,293 --> 01:25:58,372
Speaker 3: more that you do that, then your brain starts to

1731
01:25:58,412 --> 01:26:00,212
Speaker 3: develop it. You know, those skills again.

1732
01:26:00,053 --> 01:26:02,612
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And I actually thought about that aspect

1733
01:26:02,612 --> 01:26:05,013
Speaker 2: of it, forced the fact you're forced to not be

1734
01:26:05,093 --> 01:26:07,293
Speaker 2: on your phone when you're in a movie theater and

1735
01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:10,452
Speaker 2: sit in the darkly concentrate on that. Because we've got

1736
01:26:10,452 --> 01:26:13,093
Speaker 2: this Netflix thing now that they've admitted where they make

1737
01:26:13,612 --> 01:26:16,852
Speaker 2: their products because they know people are they call them

1738
01:26:16,853 --> 01:26:19,772
Speaker 2: two screen products, so they know that the film that

1739
01:26:19,812 --> 01:26:22,093
Speaker 2: they're going to make for Netflix, most people are not

1740
01:26:22,093 --> 01:26:25,692
Speaker 2: going to be watching. So they make the plots simpler,

1741
01:26:26,053 --> 01:26:28,693
Speaker 2: and they make the and they fill them with cliches,

1742
01:26:29,173 --> 01:26:32,253
Speaker 2: so you know, when you when you tune in, when

1743
01:26:32,293 --> 01:26:34,092
Speaker 2: someone looks up from their phone. They're going to understand

1744
01:26:34,133 --> 01:26:36,772
Speaker 2: what's going on because they've seen it all before. There

1745
01:26:36,812 --> 01:26:39,772
Speaker 2: was a film called Red Notice starring The Rock and

1746
01:26:40,372 --> 01:26:43,532
Speaker 2: Gail Gottrid and what's his name that Ryan, the comedian

1747
01:26:43,652 --> 01:26:45,692
Speaker 2: guy with the deep voice, deed Pool.

1748
01:26:45,612 --> 01:26:48,452
Speaker 4: Yeah, Reynolds, Reynolds, yeah, yeah.

1749
01:26:48,492 --> 01:26:51,412
Speaker 2: And it was admitted that that movie was made because

1750
01:26:51,412 --> 01:26:53,892
Speaker 2: they knew people weren't going to be watching it. So

1751
01:26:53,893 --> 01:26:57,412
Speaker 2: so you know, Netflix buying Warner Brothers and bringing it

1752
01:26:57,452 --> 01:27:01,452
Speaker 2: into their stable, they're incentivized to make stuff that's not

1753
01:27:01,492 --> 01:27:05,892
Speaker 2: as good. Yeah, and it's not meant to actually be watched. Yeah,

1754
01:27:05,973 --> 01:27:09,652
Speaker 2: it's a really really concerning, concerning thing. In my opinion,

1755
01:27:10,013 --> 01:27:11,932
Speaker 2: this sixt is, come on, you have to be watching

1756
01:27:11,933 --> 01:27:14,692
Speaker 2: the big blockbuster movies at the pictures. For example, June.

1757
01:27:14,893 --> 01:27:16,892
Speaker 2: There's no way you could not watch that at the pictures.

1758
01:27:17,133 --> 01:27:19,973
Speaker 2: I agree. Both those June movies are incredible experiences in

1759
01:27:20,013 --> 01:27:21,933
Speaker 2: the movie theater. Or do you not care and you

1760
01:27:21,933 --> 01:27:25,372
Speaker 2: just think that the movie's too expensive and give me convenience?

1761
01:27:25,372 --> 01:27:26,012
Speaker 2: Will give me death?

1762
01:27:26,093 --> 01:27:26,173
Speaker 8: Oh?

1763
01:27:26,253 --> 01:27:28,092
Speaker 3: Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1764
01:27:28,093 --> 01:27:30,572
Speaker 3: to call? Nine two ninety two is the text? Let's

1765
01:27:30,572 --> 01:27:33,572
Speaker 3: get into it. It is sixteen past three on news Talk,

1766
01:27:33,652 --> 01:27:36,253
Speaker 3: si'd be eighteen past three, And that's exactly what we're

1767
01:27:36,253 --> 01:27:39,372
Speaker 3: talking about right now. The Netflix Warner Brothers movie deal

1768
01:27:39,372 --> 01:27:41,932
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five billion in New Zealand dollars.

1769
01:27:42,213 --> 01:27:44,133
Speaker 3: What is that going to mean for actually going to

1770
01:27:44,333 --> 01:27:48,133
Speaker 3: a movie theater and enjoying that full, immersive, shared experience.

1771
01:27:48,612 --> 01:27:50,612
Speaker 4: Is that a bad thing? Or are you full on

1772
01:27:50,612 --> 01:27:51,892
Speaker 4: on the Netflix gravy train.

1773
01:27:52,053 --> 01:27:55,333
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So one of the greatest studios of

1774
01:27:55,372 --> 01:27:58,333
Speaker 2: all time, it's been focused on making films for the movies,

1775
01:27:58,452 --> 01:28:01,412
Speaker 2: is now going to be focused on making films to

1776
01:28:01,452 --> 01:28:03,892
Speaker 2: be watched on the couch. Kath, Welcome to the show.

1777
01:28:05,372 --> 01:28:08,053
Speaker 19: Hi, I'm a bit of a cinema file and I

1778
01:28:08,093 --> 01:28:11,053
Speaker 19: guess that I think this issue is pretty similar to

1779
01:28:11,133 --> 01:28:15,093
Speaker 19: the drinking issue you were discussing earlier. And there's just

1780
01:28:15,572 --> 01:28:19,133
Speaker 19: more and more reasons for people to just sit on

1781
01:28:19,173 --> 01:28:22,333
Speaker 19: the couch and not go out and not experience and

1782
01:28:22,412 --> 01:28:27,293
Speaker 19: not have the etiquettees, the camaraderie, all the good things

1783
01:28:27,492 --> 01:28:30,173
Speaker 19: about going to the cinema and actually, you know, I,

1784
01:28:30,333 --> 01:28:33,933
Speaker 19: face to face, I see teenagers who are nervous to

1785
01:28:34,013 --> 01:28:38,372
Speaker 19: make a subway order. They struggle so much socially, and

1786
01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:40,612
Speaker 19: I just think it's all part of the same package.

1787
01:28:40,652 --> 01:28:43,452
Speaker 2: To be honest, howerful, Would you go to the movies?

1788
01:28:43,612 --> 01:28:47,972
Speaker 19: Kat, It's embarrassing that I am an English teacher probably

1789
01:28:47,973 --> 01:28:49,333
Speaker 19: about fifty times a year.

1790
01:28:49,612 --> 01:28:53,372
Speaker 2: Nice, that's good. Are you finding enough good movies to

1791
01:28:53,492 --> 01:28:55,732
Speaker 2: go to to go basically once a weekend?

1792
01:28:57,372 --> 01:29:00,253
Speaker 19: Look like, I'm a bit of a bore brush. I like,

1793
01:29:00,412 --> 01:29:03,213
Speaker 19: you know, like my Marvel as well as obviously the

1794
01:29:03,293 --> 01:29:07,253
Speaker 19: film fest films, and I just enjoy cinema and enjoy reading,

1795
01:29:07,492 --> 01:29:10,293
Speaker 19: enjoy all these sorts of things. So I worry less

1796
01:29:10,333 --> 01:29:13,612
Speaker 19: about whether it's kind of good or bad. But did

1797
01:29:13,612 --> 01:29:15,293
Speaker 19: I enjoy it? What did I learn from it? And

1798
01:29:15,372 --> 01:29:17,532
Speaker 19: like I said, I think the social experience, Like I'm

1799
01:29:17,572 --> 01:29:21,253
Speaker 19: not a big TV watcher. I think watching TV, and

1800
01:29:21,333 --> 01:29:23,852
Speaker 19: so I like just go out, go out for a meal,

1801
01:29:23,973 --> 01:29:26,532
Speaker 19: go meet people, go talk to people, have a chat

1802
01:29:26,572 --> 01:29:29,293
Speaker 19: about something, and I just think it's really healthy stuff.

1803
01:29:29,692 --> 01:29:31,933
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the expense of going to

1804
01:29:31,973 --> 01:29:32,412
Speaker 2: the movies?

1805
01:29:33,612 --> 01:29:36,652
Speaker 19: Well, I guess that, you know, I look at lots

1806
01:29:36,692 --> 01:29:39,293
Speaker 19: of people spend a lot of money on messages or

1807
01:29:39,333 --> 01:29:42,213
Speaker 19: facials or you know, all those sorts of things like

1808
01:29:42,293 --> 01:29:45,053
Speaker 19: we've got limited disposable income, and we spend on what

1809
01:29:45,093 --> 01:29:47,253
Speaker 19: we want, Like some people want to have two million

1810
01:29:47,253 --> 01:29:49,372
Speaker 19: dollar houses. I actually rather go to the movies and

1811
01:29:49,492 --> 01:29:52,412
Speaker 19: travel and walk and be out and about where people.

1812
01:29:52,452 --> 01:29:54,173
Speaker 19: I just think that's you know, it's all about how

1813
01:29:54,173 --> 01:29:55,412
Speaker 19: you spend your queen, isn't it.

1814
01:29:56,372 --> 01:29:59,612
Speaker 2: So what do you think will happen with Netflix buying,

1815
01:29:59,933 --> 01:30:01,932
Speaker 2: you know, one of the biggest movie companies in the

1816
01:30:01,933 --> 01:30:04,973
Speaker 2: world and trying to bring movies into the house. Do

1817
01:30:05,013 --> 01:30:06,852
Speaker 2: you think that will have an effect on the quality

1818
01:30:07,213 --> 01:30:08,692
Speaker 2: of the product.

1819
01:30:10,853 --> 01:30:13,932
Speaker 19: I don't think Marvel movies are renowned to be quality anyway.

1820
01:30:14,133 --> 01:30:17,053
Speaker 19: But oh look, it will be It'll just be the

1821
01:30:17,093 --> 01:30:20,692
Speaker 19: same old builge And I just think, yet again, it

1822
01:30:20,812 --> 01:30:24,333
Speaker 19: will just have a negative impact on young people. Yeah,

1823
01:30:24,452 --> 01:30:28,452
Speaker 19: I just think, you know, so many young people I've got,

1824
01:30:28,812 --> 01:30:31,093
Speaker 19: you know, my daughters so often will say I want

1825
01:30:31,133 --> 01:30:32,652
Speaker 19: to hang out with my friends, and they they just

1826
01:30:32,692 --> 01:30:33,572
Speaker 19: don't want to go out.

1827
01:30:33,772 --> 01:30:33,973
Speaker 9: You know.

1828
01:30:34,253 --> 01:30:37,772
Speaker 19: I do think that there's a complete connection with mental

1829
01:30:37,812 --> 01:30:40,213
Speaker 19: health and staying at home all the time. I don't

1830
01:30:40,253 --> 01:30:42,572
Speaker 19: think these things are good for people now. I just

1831
01:30:42,572 --> 01:30:45,452
Speaker 19: think of the society, we just need to be really

1832
01:30:46,253 --> 01:30:49,572
Speaker 19: combative and pushy about getting outside the door.

1833
01:30:50,293 --> 01:30:52,812
Speaker 2: Now, speaking of young people and getting outside the door,

1834
01:30:52,853 --> 01:30:54,812
Speaker 2: a lot of the texts are coming through saying I

1835
01:30:54,853 --> 01:30:57,133
Speaker 2: don't go to movies because there's a bunch of young

1836
01:30:57,173 --> 01:31:00,013
Speaker 2: people talking and being on their phones beside me in

1837
01:31:00,093 --> 01:31:03,532
Speaker 2: the movie, and it ruins my experience for me. Do

1838
01:31:03,572 --> 01:31:05,092
Speaker 2: you see a lot of that? Do you get annoyed

1839
01:31:05,133 --> 01:31:08,133
Speaker 2: by rude people? Because if I go to the movies

1840
01:31:08,173 --> 01:31:10,892
Speaker 2: and someone talking, I find it really hard. I have

1841
01:31:10,973 --> 01:31:14,612
Speaker 2: to basically go into a full mindfulness meditation just to

1842
01:31:14,652 --> 01:31:16,572
Speaker 2: concentrate on the movie to not get annoyed at the

1843
01:31:17,492 --> 01:31:20,333
Speaker 2: at you know, the selfishness of someone talking through a

1844
01:31:20,372 --> 01:31:22,732
Speaker 2: movie or or getting on their phone or whatever.

1845
01:31:24,692 --> 01:31:26,452
Speaker 19: I don't think it happens that often, but I have

1846
01:31:26,532 --> 01:31:29,053
Speaker 19: to be honest, you know, I think as soon as

1847
01:31:29,053 --> 01:31:31,532
Speaker 19: you reach fifty your parents that stuff goes pretty low.

1848
01:31:31,572 --> 01:31:34,092
Speaker 19: So I just say I'll be like it's happened twice

1849
01:31:34,133 --> 01:31:36,093
Speaker 19: after I'd be like, oh, excuse me, could you just

1850
01:31:36,173 --> 01:31:38,053
Speaker 19: quiet it down? Like I've noticed.

1851
01:31:37,973 --> 01:31:41,452
Speaker 2: That you'll have a word to you, You'll a word.

1852
01:31:41,692 --> 01:31:42,213
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I.

1853
01:31:43,893 --> 01:31:46,933
Speaker 19: Like this well annoying And I just tell people some

1854
01:31:47,093 --> 01:31:47,532
Speaker 19: all good with it?

1855
01:31:47,973 --> 01:31:50,852
Speaker 2: And and how do how dos that normally received both

1856
01:31:50,893 --> 01:31:52,692
Speaker 2: people never.

1857
01:31:52,572 --> 01:31:55,652
Speaker 19: Had an issue because I'm not impolite. Yeah, and you know,

1858
01:31:56,093 --> 01:32:00,052
Speaker 19: and often, you know, there's a communal audience feel of like, gosh,

1859
01:32:00,093 --> 01:32:02,013
Speaker 19: I wish this person would be a bit quite And

1860
01:32:02,053 --> 01:32:04,133
Speaker 19: you know, there's nothing wrong with the parting word of

1861
01:32:04,133 --> 01:32:07,372
Speaker 19: that's when people are having slung conversations or texting or something.

1862
01:32:07,612 --> 01:32:10,812
Speaker 19: It's rare, I think, And I don't think it's I

1863
01:32:10,853 --> 01:32:13,013
Speaker 19: don't think it's just young people who do that. I mean,

1864
01:32:13,053 --> 01:32:16,213
Speaker 19: I guess it's rude people across all ages, aren't they.

1865
01:32:16,893 --> 01:32:20,853
Speaker 3: Do you like the full, you know, commercial hoits type experience.

1866
01:32:20,893 --> 01:32:23,892
Speaker 3: Are you more in line with some of the smallest cinemas,

1867
01:32:23,933 --> 01:32:27,133
Speaker 3: the more bougie boutique ones I reckon?

1868
01:32:27,293 --> 01:32:29,532
Speaker 19: I like, so I would go to Lighthouse. It's so

1869
01:32:29,652 --> 01:32:31,692
Speaker 19: well into you guys probably don't know Lighthouse, but there's

1870
01:32:31,732 --> 01:32:34,772
Speaker 19: a change down and Watington three Lighthouse Cinemas and they're

1871
01:32:34,933 --> 01:32:36,772
Speaker 19: very good and they have all the film fest But

1872
01:32:36,973 --> 01:32:40,132
Speaker 19: I have no issue with a mission impossible tongue cruise.

1873
01:32:40,452 --> 01:32:43,372
Speaker 19: That's done too, isn't it different days?

1874
01:32:43,812 --> 01:32:47,132
Speaker 2: Yeah? And the communal aspect of it is quite something.

1875
01:32:47,173 --> 01:32:49,732
Speaker 2: So well, people complain about other people being there. I

1876
01:32:49,772 --> 01:32:52,173
Speaker 2: went to the New Naked Gun movie and it was

1877
01:32:52,173 --> 01:32:55,012
Speaker 2: an a pact theater and everyone was laughing, and I'd

1878
01:32:55,053 --> 01:32:58,732
Speaker 2: sort of forgotten about that experience of just being for

1879
01:32:58,812 --> 01:33:02,973
Speaker 2: some reason, it's funnier because other people are laughing. This

1880
01:33:03,093 --> 01:33:05,532
Speaker 2: is the sort of the laughter of the theater can

1881
01:33:05,652 --> 01:33:06,093
Speaker 2: take over.

1882
01:33:07,213 --> 01:33:10,452
Speaker 19: Oh absolutely. I went of salt Burn and about four

1883
01:33:10,452 --> 01:33:12,932
Speaker 19: people left because they were so horrified. And I don't

1884
01:33:12,933 --> 01:33:14,572
Speaker 19: think I've ever enjoyed something more.

1885
01:33:15,133 --> 01:33:15,213
Speaker 9: So.

1886
01:33:15,293 --> 01:33:18,133
Speaker 19: I loved the moral outrage as well, Like that isn't it.

1887
01:33:18,333 --> 01:33:20,372
Speaker 19: You just get all those sorts of things going on

1888
01:33:20,412 --> 01:33:21,132
Speaker 19: in a cinema.

1889
01:33:22,093 --> 01:33:25,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no quietas that movie. I loved it, but yeah,

1890
01:33:25,452 --> 01:33:26,852
Speaker 3: that was there was a lot of scene.

1891
01:33:27,013 --> 01:33:29,452
Speaker 2: Well, salt Burn might be an example of how this

1892
01:33:29,532 --> 01:33:33,012
Speaker 2: could work because salt Burn was made by Amazon for streaming,

1893
01:33:33,053 --> 01:33:35,492
Speaker 2: but they did do a window in the movie theater

1894
01:33:35,652 --> 01:33:37,852
Speaker 2: so people that wanted to see that in the theater

1895
01:33:37,933 --> 01:33:38,452
Speaker 2: could see it.

1896
01:33:39,893 --> 01:33:43,852
Speaker 19: Yeah, and you know, maybe, like often the kind of

1897
01:33:43,853 --> 01:33:47,612
Speaker 19: these streaming networks will have a cinema release first and

1898
01:33:47,692 --> 01:33:50,732
Speaker 19: people can choose. But I just like I said, I

1899
01:33:51,013 --> 01:33:53,052
Speaker 19: you know, I don't want to sound kind of telling

1900
01:33:53,093 --> 01:33:55,412
Speaker 19: other people what to do, but I think it's just

1901
01:33:55,532 --> 01:33:58,452
Speaker 19: really unfortunate that it's just another way for people not

1902
01:33:58,492 --> 01:34:01,213
Speaker 19: to interact, how to the supermarket used to have to

1903
01:34:01,333 --> 01:34:04,572
Speaker 19: check out by everything online, Like, it's just kind of

1904
01:34:04,652 --> 01:34:06,053
Speaker 19: nice when people talk to each other.

1905
01:34:06,532 --> 01:34:07,492
Speaker 7: It's kind of good things.

1906
01:34:07,612 --> 01:34:09,532
Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's just talking to the person behind

1907
01:34:09,612 --> 01:34:11,572
Speaker 2: the counter when you're buying the ticket and you know,

1908
01:34:11,612 --> 01:34:15,092
Speaker 2: getting out of the house and interacting with the people

1909
01:34:15,372 --> 01:34:18,453
Speaker 2: that you're not you know they're not they're not civilians

1910
01:34:18,452 --> 01:34:20,892
Speaker 2: for one of a better word. But just the getting

1911
01:34:20,893 --> 01:34:23,372
Speaker 2: out of the house, the dealing with the real world,

1912
01:34:24,053 --> 01:34:27,253
Speaker 2: buying a ticket, sitting down experience of other people. I

1913
01:34:27,293 --> 01:34:30,892
Speaker 2: absolutely love it. I mean there's there's also thank you

1914
01:34:30,933 --> 01:34:33,253
Speaker 2: so much for your call. Care really appreciate it. Enjoy

1915
01:34:33,293 --> 01:34:38,492
Speaker 2: the movies. But if one's another example that's been incredibly successful,

1916
01:34:38,652 --> 01:34:40,932
Speaker 2: and it was made by Apple for their streaming service,

1917
01:34:41,293 --> 01:34:43,253
Speaker 2: but it was huge in the box office and they're

1918
01:34:43,333 --> 01:34:45,333
Speaker 2: only just bringing out it, said, one of the longest

1919
01:34:45,412 --> 01:34:49,492
Speaker 2: windows in movie theaters of any movie in recent times

1920
01:34:49,492 --> 01:34:53,213
Speaker 2: before it goes into you know, view at home whatever

1921
01:34:53,213 --> 01:34:56,412
Speaker 2: they call it. And that was made for it by

1922
01:34:56,412 --> 01:35:00,333
Speaker 2: a streaming service. Yeah. Yeah, but obviously Apple's made a

1923
01:35:00,333 --> 01:35:01,933
Speaker 2: lot of money in the movie theater as well. So,

1924
01:35:02,173 --> 01:35:06,372
Speaker 2: I mean, but what's what's concerning about it is that

1925
01:35:06,532 --> 01:35:10,972
Speaker 2: the co CEO of Netflix has basically said we've bought

1926
01:35:11,013 --> 01:35:12,972
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers to get people out of the movie theater

1927
01:35:13,372 --> 01:35:16,572
Speaker 2: and sitting on the couch watching how he didn't say this,

1928
01:35:16,652 --> 01:35:19,372
Speaker 2: but in my opinion, our watered down version of cinema.

1929
01:35:19,933 --> 01:35:21,973
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty much what he did say. I mean,

1930
01:35:22,013 --> 01:35:25,372
Speaker 3: just quickly, because we've got the messages to play. But

1931
01:35:25,452 --> 01:35:28,852
Speaker 3: the idea of directors, great directors that we know and love,

1932
01:35:28,933 --> 01:35:33,612
Speaker 3: the Scorsese, Spelberg's, the Nolans. The idea that most of

1933
01:35:33,652 --> 01:35:36,053
Speaker 3: these movies, it looks like, are just going to be

1934
01:35:36,133 --> 01:35:38,173
Speaker 3: streamed and you watch them at home. I mean, that's

1935
01:35:38,213 --> 01:35:39,412
Speaker 3: the death of the great director.

1936
01:35:39,492 --> 01:35:39,652
Speaker 4: Right.

1937
01:35:39,692 --> 01:35:42,932
Speaker 3: We know these directors because they are so passionate about

1938
01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:45,372
Speaker 3: that full on experience. And you talk about Red Notice

1939
01:35:45,532 --> 01:35:48,093
Speaker 3: or any other of the Netflix originals that I've seen,

1940
01:35:48,133 --> 01:35:50,612
Speaker 3: I'd have no idea who the director was, no idea.

1941
01:35:50,253 --> 01:35:52,452
Speaker 2: Well, you know that Christopher Nolan, that director and if

1942
01:35:52,492 --> 01:35:56,572
Speaker 2: you don't know who he is, director's inception The Dark Night,

1943
01:35:57,372 --> 01:36:00,772
Speaker 2: so Oppenhamer is the most recent one. He's got one

1944
01:36:00,853 --> 01:36:02,812
Speaker 2: coming out really soon. I'll just remember what that is.

1945
01:36:02,853 --> 01:36:07,173
Speaker 2: It's the odysseysy, yes, really looking for it. He's called

1946
01:36:07,173 --> 01:36:09,612
Speaker 2: from meeting with Netflix. Go in and give them a

1947
01:36:09,612 --> 01:36:11,253
Speaker 2: aar full god this whole thing.

1948
01:36:11,333 --> 01:36:11,892
Speaker 4: Yeah, good on them.

1949
01:36:11,893 --> 01:36:14,173
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1950
01:36:14,173 --> 01:36:16,692
Speaker 3: to call. How important is it for you to continue

1951
01:36:16,732 --> 01:36:18,452
Speaker 3: going to the cinema? And if you're a cinema lover

1952
01:36:18,532 --> 01:36:20,333
Speaker 3: and always have been, really can have a chat with

1953
01:36:20,333 --> 01:36:23,012
Speaker 3: your nine two nine two's the text twenty seven past three.

1954
01:36:22,973 --> 01:36:25,253
Speaker 2: Or do you want the whole thing on the couch

1955
01:36:25,372 --> 01:36:26,932
Speaker 2: in front of you? On Netflix?

1956
01:36:31,293 --> 01:36:34,652
Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons, call oh eight hundred

1957
01:36:34,652 --> 01:36:36,852
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty on used talk ZB.

1958
01:36:36,973 --> 01:36:39,093
Speaker 3: For a good afternoon to You're twenty nine pass three

1959
01:36:39,133 --> 01:36:42,372
Speaker 3: and we're talking about the Netflix Warner Brothers deal and

1960
01:36:42,412 --> 01:36:44,652
Speaker 3: what that may mean for the traditional going to the

1961
01:36:44,692 --> 01:36:46,812
Speaker 3: cinema and having that shit experience.

1962
01:36:46,732 --> 01:36:50,253
Speaker 2: The Cinay text. What all the older people do when

1963
01:36:50,253 --> 01:36:52,093
Speaker 2: they have to take the grandchildren for the day, won't

1964
01:36:52,093 --> 01:36:53,652
Speaker 2: be able to take them to the movies. Yeah, I

1965
01:36:53,652 --> 01:36:54,532
Speaker 2: mean that's a great.

1966
01:36:54,853 --> 01:36:57,293
Speaker 4: Great day out for the kids percent and for parents.

1967
01:36:57,372 --> 01:37:01,333
Speaker 2: Yeah. Water down version of cinema. Let's not forget Mark

1968
01:37:01,333 --> 01:37:05,052
Speaker 2: Scorsese's The Irishman was one hundred percent Netflix production. James, Yes,

1969
01:37:05,093 --> 01:37:06,932
Speaker 2: it was, but they ended up losing quite a lot

1970
01:37:06,933 --> 01:37:09,093
Speaker 2: of money on that and The and the Talkers. That

1971
01:37:09,133 --> 01:37:12,452
Speaker 2: Netflix is going to move away from those kind of

1972
01:37:12,572 --> 01:37:17,452
Speaker 2: quality productions. Although I will say The Irishman, come on

1973
01:37:17,532 --> 01:37:19,852
Speaker 2: that make it that young afying of Robert Denaro did

1974
01:37:19,853 --> 01:37:21,852
Speaker 2: not work. I was so confused. He was supposed to

1975
01:37:21,853 --> 01:37:23,133
Speaker 2: be twenty five at the start of the movie. He

1976
01:37:23,213 --> 01:37:26,372
Speaker 2: looks he looked like an old man covered in wax.

1977
01:37:28,093 --> 01:37:31,173
Speaker 2: Best getting to fight very very long. It did have

1978
01:37:31,372 --> 01:37:34,732
Speaker 2: a bit of a cinema window.

1979
01:37:35,293 --> 01:37:37,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, but good point. Keep those texts coming through. On

1980
01:37:37,772 --> 01:37:38,572
Speaker 3: nine two ninety two.

1981
01:37:38,893 --> 01:37:40,012
Speaker 2: Juels your thoughts.

1982
01:37:41,452 --> 01:37:44,492
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think there's pros and cons for both. I mean,

1983
01:37:44,572 --> 01:37:47,972
Speaker 18: I've got kids, so Netflix is always a great rainy

1984
01:37:48,053 --> 01:37:52,213
Speaker 18: day we're at home. School holidays kind of you know fixture.

1985
01:37:52,812 --> 01:37:54,892
Speaker 18: But I think if you, like you said before, if

1986
01:37:54,893 --> 01:37:58,053
Speaker 18: you want the full experience, nothing beats the cinema. But

1987
01:37:58,133 --> 01:38:00,572
Speaker 18: the cinema has become so expensive now.

1988
01:38:01,173 --> 01:38:02,333
Speaker 11: Like I'll give you an example.

1989
01:38:02,452 --> 01:38:04,852
Speaker 18: The last school holidays, I took my two nephews my

1990
01:38:05,013 --> 01:38:07,732
Speaker 18: son and myself to the movies and it was one

1991
01:38:07,812 --> 01:38:12,013
Speaker 18: hundred and thirty bucks and that was just tickets and popcorns.

1992
01:38:12,133 --> 01:38:13,093
Speaker 4: Is that more people do?

1993
01:38:13,253 --> 01:38:13,412
Speaker 7: Say?

1994
01:38:13,452 --> 01:38:13,732
Speaker 2: Jels?

1995
01:38:13,853 --> 01:38:15,612
Speaker 4: Is that four people?

1996
01:38:16,013 --> 01:38:17,973
Speaker 18: It's three kids in one adult and that's you know,

1997
01:38:18,053 --> 01:38:21,692
Speaker 18: that's not an economic reality for most people. So you

1998
01:38:21,732 --> 01:38:25,572
Speaker 18: can see why Netflix has its you know, has its prose.

1999
01:38:25,732 --> 01:38:29,413
Speaker 18: But but for me, I'm old school born in the seventies.

2000
01:38:29,492 --> 01:38:33,252
Speaker 18: I love going to the movies, you know, loud noises

2001
01:38:33,412 --> 01:38:37,852
Speaker 18: and hearing the soundtrack and it's it's an experience, but

2002
01:38:38,372 --> 01:38:42,532
Speaker 18: it's become an increasingly expensive Do.

2003
01:38:42,492 --> 01:38:46,772
Speaker 2: You think there's anything in my argument that Netflix is

2004
01:38:46,812 --> 01:38:49,932
Speaker 2: a lower quality of product than the movies, not all

2005
01:38:49,973 --> 01:38:52,973
Speaker 2: of them, but definitely at the higher.

2006
01:38:53,173 --> 01:38:55,812
Speaker 18: When yeah, when you look at all of the we

2007
01:38:56,173 --> 01:38:58,652
Speaker 18: quite often do the scrolling on a Saturday, what can

2008
01:38:58,692 --> 01:39:02,533
Speaker 18: we watch? And probably eighty five percent of it is rubbish,

2009
01:39:02,692 --> 01:39:06,532
Speaker 18: it's wrong coms, it's no brains, there's nothing, you know,

2010
01:39:06,572 --> 01:39:08,213
Speaker 18: there's nothing that you're going to come away with going,

2011
01:39:08,333 --> 01:39:11,532
Speaker 18: oh my gosh, there was a cinematic experience. Most of

2012
01:39:11,572 --> 01:39:14,333
Speaker 18: it are actors you've never heard of, or it's actors

2013
01:39:14,372 --> 01:39:17,333
Speaker 18: that you know, probably have passed their best before date,

2014
01:39:17,412 --> 01:39:20,692
Speaker 18: the best by date by date. Yeah that's not being rude,

2015
01:39:20,692 --> 01:39:24,133
Speaker 18: but you know, I'm just saying, but so yeah, it

2016
01:39:24,173 --> 01:39:27,492
Speaker 18: will never beat it. But it's part of modern society now.

2017
01:39:27,532 --> 01:39:31,892
Speaker 18: Everything's so accessible and so convenient. Can you can you

2018
01:39:31,933 --> 01:39:36,053
Speaker 18: know ten things on and and and there's cutbaits and

2019
01:39:36,213 --> 01:39:37,973
Speaker 18: all these and I have teenagers, so you know, they

2020
01:39:38,372 --> 01:39:40,492
Speaker 18: are the cookbake champions right where they just.

2021
01:39:40,572 --> 01:39:42,173
Speaker 11: Scroll st scroll scull skulls.

2022
01:39:43,372 --> 01:39:46,333
Speaker 18: The attention spans have become a lot lower than they

2023
01:39:46,412 --> 01:39:46,892
Speaker 18: used to be.

2024
01:39:47,572 --> 01:39:50,012
Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you go into the movies duels, because

2025
01:39:50,013 --> 01:39:52,772
Speaker 2: you're forced to watch it, I feel like I feel

2026
01:39:52,812 --> 01:39:55,932
Speaker 2: like attention spans are gained by people being annoyed by

2027
01:39:55,933 --> 01:39:58,092
Speaker 2: their fire, you know, but they go to their phone,

2028
01:39:58,532 --> 01:40:02,652
Speaker 2: and because you haven't, you haven't given the movie attention,

2029
01:40:02,812 --> 01:40:04,293
Speaker 2: then it doesn't bring you in, if you know what

2030
01:40:04,333 --> 01:40:06,732
Speaker 2: I mean. It's it's sort of a if you're in

2031
01:40:06,772 --> 01:40:09,173
Speaker 2: the dark and you look at it, then then you

2032
01:40:09,253 --> 01:40:12,293
Speaker 2: can get locked in. But it's because you don't actually

2033
01:40:12,293 --> 01:40:15,612
Speaker 2: get locked into the movie at home, you don't have

2034
01:40:15,692 --> 01:40:17,213
Speaker 2: the same experience of it.

2035
01:40:18,293 --> 01:40:20,612
Speaker 18: And it's a choice because you're you're sort of in

2036
01:40:20,692 --> 01:40:23,133
Speaker 18: the theater and you're with other people, and there's all

2037
01:40:23,173 --> 01:40:25,133
Speaker 18: the social constructs of that where you've grown. You know,

2038
01:40:25,213 --> 01:40:28,652
Speaker 18: it's all a bit client and they have to add

2039
01:40:28,732 --> 01:40:31,213
Speaker 18: before films now, like please turn off your phone, you know.

2040
01:40:31,293 --> 01:40:34,293
Speaker 18: So there's all of those you know, public service announcements

2041
01:40:34,293 --> 01:40:35,333
Speaker 18: that people watch.

2042
01:40:35,492 --> 01:40:38,653
Speaker 10: So yeah, true different.

2043
01:40:38,893 --> 01:40:41,293
Speaker 4: And the cultural zeitgeist as well, Jewels.

2044
01:40:41,333 --> 01:40:42,692
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just trying to think of the last

2045
01:40:42,692 --> 01:40:45,132
Speaker 3: big one that was in the movie theater, probably Barbie

2046
01:40:45,173 --> 01:40:48,173
Speaker 3: and Oppenheimer. But I remember the Matrix when it first

2047
01:40:48,173 --> 01:40:51,852
Speaker 3: came into the cinema because everybody was talking about, Holy Molly,

2048
01:40:51,893 --> 01:40:53,692
Speaker 3: you're going to go see the Matrix And everyone had

2049
01:40:53,732 --> 01:40:55,892
Speaker 3: to go down to the cinema to experience that, and

2050
01:40:55,933 --> 01:40:57,213
Speaker 3: everyone was talking about it.

2051
01:40:57,293 --> 01:40:57,492
Speaker 4: You know.

2052
01:40:57,532 --> 01:41:00,692
Speaker 3: It was just part and part of general conversation. Very

2053
01:41:00,812 --> 01:41:02,892
Speaker 3: rare to have that these days with a movie, particularly

2054
01:41:02,893 --> 01:41:03,612
Speaker 3: a streaming movie.

2055
01:41:03,652 --> 01:41:05,293
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call, Jeels. But there

2056
01:41:05,293 --> 01:41:07,612
Speaker 2: are movies and movie makers that make movies for the

2057
01:41:07,612 --> 01:41:10,133
Speaker 2: theater and they get people in like James Cameron, right, yep,

2058
01:41:10,173 --> 01:41:14,812
Speaker 2: so Avatar, you know the Avatar movies. I always go

2059
01:41:14,973 --> 01:41:18,293
Speaker 2: to them, you know, third ones out soon, yeah, but

2060
01:41:18,372 --> 01:41:20,253
Speaker 2: I would never watch them at home. Because he makes

2061
01:41:20,293 --> 01:41:22,213
Speaker 2: them purely for the movie theaters. And I think Christopher

2062
01:41:22,253 --> 01:41:25,173
Speaker 2: Nolan's another another you know director like that where you've

2063
01:41:25,173 --> 01:41:27,772
Speaker 2: got to go along the June movies recently as well.

2064
01:41:27,853 --> 01:41:30,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

2065
01:41:30,412 --> 01:41:32,253
Speaker 3: to call? Is it still important for you to go

2066
01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:35,052
Speaker 3: to the movies at a cinema or are you okay

2067
01:41:35,452 --> 01:41:38,093
Speaker 3: to just sit home and watch it on Netflix after

2068
01:41:38,133 --> 01:41:41,412
Speaker 3: this big Warner Brothers movie deal. It is twenty six

2069
01:41:41,492 --> 01:41:42,212
Speaker 3: to four.

2070
01:41:42,293 --> 01:41:44,772
Speaker 2: As Texas says to the Irishman. End I thought it

2071
01:41:44,853 --> 01:41:45,333
Speaker 2: was still going.

2072
01:41:45,492 --> 01:41:47,933
Speaker 4: That's a long movie.

2073
01:41:49,253 --> 01:41:52,733
Speaker 1: You talk say'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

2074
01:41:52,893 --> 01:41:56,253
Speaker 8: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Residents, said tong

2075
01:41:56,253 --> 01:41:59,772
Speaker 8: Gaderdo National Parks Fucker Paper have been told to prepare

2076
01:41:59,812 --> 01:42:04,093
Speaker 8: to evacuate because fires have again broken out, covering one

2077
01:42:04,213 --> 01:42:07,892
Speaker 8: hundred and ten hectares. Visitors and people on tracks have

2078
01:42:08,013 --> 01:42:11,892
Speaker 8: also been asked to leave. State Highway forty seven is

2079
01:42:11,973 --> 01:42:16,572
Speaker 8: closed between State Highway forty six and forty eight. Meanwhile,

2080
01:42:16,612 --> 01:42:20,493
Speaker 8: State Highway two is also closed by fire at Morhuka

2081
01:42:20,772 --> 01:42:26,573
Speaker 8: south of Waidore. Kmart is recalling yet another potentially as beestos,

2082
01:42:26,612 --> 01:42:31,333
Speaker 8: contaminated colored sand product, the frozen bluey and poor patrol

2083
01:42:31,692 --> 01:42:35,852
Speaker 8: sensory activity sets. A twenty one year old New Zealand

2084
01:42:35,893 --> 01:42:38,893
Speaker 8: is due in a Sydney court today accused of smuggling

2085
01:42:38,933 --> 01:42:42,372
Speaker 8: twenty one kilos of heroin into Australia in his luggage.

2086
01:42:43,213 --> 01:42:44,252
Speaker 2: The Defense Force.

2087
01:42:44,053 --> 01:42:47,253
Speaker 8: Has revealed Chinese warships followed on New Zealand Navy ship

2088
01:42:47,492 --> 01:42:51,372
Speaker 8: at a distance during an East China sea operation last month.

2089
01:42:52,492 --> 01:42:55,812
Speaker 8: Concerns about staff cuts at the Public Health Agency, which

2090
01:42:55,853 --> 01:42:59,652
Speaker 8: is proposing shedding twenty one net rolls, including from the

2091
01:42:59,692 --> 01:43:05,052
Speaker 8: Emergency Management and MARDI public Health teams. What Jesse Mulligan

2092
01:43:05,133 --> 01:43:07,852
Speaker 8: really thinks about the Michelin Guide coming to New Zealand.

2093
01:43:08,013 --> 01:43:11,013
Speaker 8: You can find out more at Viva Premium. Back to

2094
01:43:11,053 --> 01:43:13,013
Speaker 8: Matt Eath and Tyler Adams, Thank you very.

2095
01:43:13,013 --> 01:43:15,013
Speaker 3: Much, Raylan. We're talking about going to the movies. Is

2096
01:43:15,013 --> 01:43:16,612
Speaker 3: it still a big thing for you to go to

2097
01:43:16,652 --> 01:43:19,213
Speaker 3: an actual cinema or are you okay sitting at home

2098
01:43:19,253 --> 01:43:22,052
Speaker 3: and watching Netflix. We say this after the big deal.

2099
01:43:22,133 --> 01:43:25,093
Speaker 3: Netflix is going to acquire Warner Brothers and HBO Max

2100
01:43:25,133 --> 01:43:27,053
Speaker 3: and a one hundred and twenty five billion dollar deal.

2101
01:43:27,253 --> 01:43:30,972
Speaker 3: But here's the quote that Netflix co CEO Ted Sarandous said.

2102
01:43:31,013 --> 01:43:35,093
Speaker 3: He said Netflix was saving Hollywood and that movies going

2103
01:43:35,133 --> 01:43:37,532
Speaker 3: to the movies is an outdated concept and an out

2104
01:43:37,572 --> 01:43:38,533
Speaker 3: modern idea.

2105
01:43:38,732 --> 01:43:40,812
Speaker 2: How I sort of agree with this person when I

2106
01:43:40,893 --> 01:43:44,973
Speaker 2: was slagging off Netflix and saying that, you know, their

2107
01:43:45,013 --> 01:43:47,133
Speaker 2: quality wasn't as good. That's not across the board. I

2108
01:43:47,173 --> 01:43:50,053
Speaker 2: think generally the quality is worse than Netflix, but they

2109
01:43:50,053 --> 01:43:53,053
Speaker 2: do have some great stuff on there. I can't find

2110
01:43:53,053 --> 01:43:54,612
Speaker 2: the tests of some may coming through. But this was

2111
01:43:54,652 --> 01:43:56,612
Speaker 2: just basically saying they sat down and watched the first

2112
01:43:57,253 --> 01:44:02,132
Speaker 2: four episodes of Stranger Things series five, and we're thoroughly

2113
01:44:02,173 --> 01:44:04,532
Speaker 2: engrossed the whole way through. Yeah, yeah, so was I.

2114
01:44:04,532 --> 01:44:07,532
Speaker 2: I really really enjoyed Stranger Things, and I watch a

2115
01:44:07,532 --> 01:44:09,173
Speaker 2: lot of stuff. But I just if I'm looking at

2116
01:44:09,173 --> 01:44:14,133
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers and the properties that Netflix now owns by

2117
01:44:14,173 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 2: owning Water Brothers, and I was thinking about the history

2118
01:44:16,213 --> 01:44:18,133
Speaker 2: of the movies that have made at Warner Brothers and

2119
01:44:18,173 --> 01:44:21,853
Speaker 2: the culture of making great movies at that company, primarily

2120
01:44:21,893 --> 01:44:24,692
Speaker 2: for the movie theater. I just can't see Netflix making

2121
01:44:25,093 --> 01:44:28,572
Speaker 2: The Dark Knight or The Matrix or Goodfellas or The

2122
01:44:28,612 --> 01:44:32,053
Speaker 2: Shawshack Redemption or Blade Runner or The Exorcist or two

2123
01:44:32,093 --> 01:44:33,572
Speaker 2: thousand and one. I mean, this is going back a

2124
01:44:33,572 --> 01:44:35,852
Speaker 2: long way with some of these ones with Warner Brothers

2125
01:44:36,013 --> 01:44:38,732
Speaker 2: that departed, the Lord of the Rings trilogy that was

2126
01:44:38,772 --> 01:44:42,732
Speaker 2: New Line but owned by Warner Brothers. Yeah, unforgiven, Harry

2127
01:44:42,772 --> 01:44:48,293
Speaker 2: Potter movies, maybe the Fugitive Hate Gravity. I mean, there's

2128
01:44:48,333 --> 01:44:50,372
Speaker 2: a lot in there. It's just grabbing some Warner Brothers

2129
01:44:50,412 --> 01:44:53,932
Speaker 2: movies that just seem more cinematic to me than what

2130
01:44:54,053 --> 01:44:57,372
Speaker 2: Netflix does. And there's no doubt the Netflix has rejuvenated

2131
01:44:57,412 --> 01:45:00,133
Speaker 2: the TV series since they first did you know, they

2132
01:45:00,213 --> 01:45:02,732
Speaker 2: decided to make their own Netflix products with House of

2133
01:45:02,812 --> 01:45:06,333
Speaker 2: Cards and such. They have. There's been some fantastic Netflix

2134
01:45:06,372 --> 01:45:08,973
Speaker 2: TV series. But I don't think that they've now the

2135
01:45:09,093 --> 01:45:12,372
Speaker 2: movie yet because they pump them out and I just

2136
01:45:12,412 --> 01:45:15,732
Speaker 2: don't want to see some of these properties that are movies.

2137
01:45:15,772 --> 01:45:18,492
Speaker 2: I mean, do you want to watch a Netflix Shawshank Redemption.

2138
01:45:18,532 --> 01:45:20,852
Speaker 2: They'll have the rights of that now turn into a

2139
01:45:21,372 --> 01:45:25,772
Speaker 2: TV series where it's okay for about two episodes, then

2140
01:45:25,772 --> 01:45:28,293
Speaker 2: it just goes into autopilot for about five just to

2141
01:45:28,333 --> 01:45:28,932
Speaker 2: extend it out.

2142
01:45:28,973 --> 01:45:31,133
Speaker 3: That sounds criminal, But what do you say one hundred

2143
01:45:31,133 --> 01:45:33,133
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 7: Kate?

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01:45:34,532 --> 01:45:36,253
Speaker 2: Are your thoughts on the on the flex?

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Speaker 16: Oh, well, we go to the movies all the time.

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01:45:40,253 --> 01:45:44,133
Speaker 16: We're in our Fix season seventies and we're in Juneedain

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Speaker 16: and the advantages is that they get to know in

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01:45:47,213 --> 01:45:49,572
Speaker 16: the theater, they know our coffee orders and everything.

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01:45:49,772 --> 01:45:51,093
Speaker 2: Are you going on? Look which one A you're going

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01:45:51,093 --> 01:45:52,812
Speaker 2: along to a dinner? You go along to the Rialto

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01:45:52,893 --> 01:45:54,812
Speaker 2: and the Octagon a Rialto.

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01:45:54,933 --> 01:45:58,612
Speaker 16: But we're prior to support the Metro as well an

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01:45:58,652 --> 01:46:03,412
Speaker 16: independent ye theater we go to they are usually afterwards

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01:46:03,812 --> 01:46:06,372
Speaker 16: you know, we're even getting a discount there there when

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01:46:06,372 --> 01:46:09,812
Speaker 16: we go. Because with the so often and the latest

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01:46:09,853 --> 01:46:12,973
Speaker 16: lot of it, we've had three lots of movie festivals.

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01:46:12,973 --> 01:46:16,972
Speaker 16: Has been the Italian, the International, and just has the

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Speaker 16: British and Irish and I probably went to seventeen out

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Speaker 16: of the twenty three movies. And my sister in law

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01:46:23,692 --> 01:46:26,372
Speaker 16: she would go to every movie. And we've actually met

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01:46:26,412 --> 01:46:29,732
Speaker 16: another man who's at the center and he goes as well.

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01:46:29,812 --> 01:46:33,452
Speaker 16: He goes to every single movie that's on to see it.

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Speaker 16: But as I say, a lot of them are well

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Speaker 16: supported down here, But there are the older people that

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01:46:40,213 --> 01:46:41,092
Speaker 16: seem to be going.

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01:46:41,532 --> 01:46:42,732
Speaker 2: Do you have ne Lu's at home?

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Speaker 14: Kat?

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Speaker 10: Ok?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I've got Netflix, yes, and I watched it as

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01:46:47,572 --> 01:46:50,933
Speaker 16: well many I like the series things, but we so

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01:46:51,333 --> 01:46:53,572
Speaker 16: we go. There's just something about the movies where you

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01:46:53,612 --> 01:46:56,732
Speaker 16: can just sit there and you're not distracted. And yeah,

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01:46:56,973 --> 01:46:59,372
Speaker 16: and we've met quite a few people that couldn't even

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01:46:59,492 --> 01:47:01,772
Speaker 16: look smaller of course, but we've met quite a few

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01:47:01,772 --> 01:47:04,612
Speaker 16: people that you meet it for the movies and yeah,

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Speaker 16: that's great, we love it.

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Speaker 4: You're fantastic.

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Speaker 3: I mean, just the idea going down to the bar

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01:47:09,173 --> 01:47:11,012
Speaker 3: and discussing the movie that you've just watched.

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01:47:11,053 --> 01:47:13,053
Speaker 4: Love there. It's still part of that experience, right.

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Speaker 2: I've just thought of a Netflix movie that I thought

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01:47:14,853 --> 01:47:17,773
Speaker 2: was good. The First Knives Out, Oh yes, The Secondknives

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01:47:17,772 --> 01:47:21,093
Speaker 2: Out was a horror. It was terrible, made no sense

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01:47:21,133 --> 01:47:25,293
Speaker 2: and they made the absolute criminal plot point that you're

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01:47:25,293 --> 01:47:28,492
Speaker 2: not allowed to use in a murder mits mystery the

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01:47:28,532 --> 01:47:31,372
Speaker 2: Agatha Christie outlined a long time ago. I'm not going

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01:47:31,412 --> 01:47:32,812
Speaker 2: to say it in case you watched it, but.

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01:47:32,732 --> 01:47:33,692
Speaker 4: That was a glass onion?

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01:47:33,772 --> 01:47:33,893
Speaker 17: Was it?

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01:47:33,973 --> 01:47:34,053
Speaker 10: Ye?

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01:47:34,173 --> 01:47:37,013
Speaker 2: Glass Onion? And they've got the new ones coming out,

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01:47:37,053 --> 01:47:39,933
Speaker 2: the New Knives out, so hopefully it's good, but I

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01:47:39,933 --> 01:47:41,972
Speaker 2: think that would be more in juryaboil in the movie theater.

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01:47:42,093 --> 01:47:44,532
Speaker 2: Then yeah, but yeah, they do they you know, it's

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01:47:44,572 --> 01:47:46,772
Speaker 2: not to say that everything they make is rubbish.

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01:47:46,893 --> 01:47:49,453
Speaker 3: Klaus was amazing. Did you ever watch Klaus the animated?

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01:47:49,812 --> 01:47:53,572
Speaker 3: That was a brilliant Netflix creation, but again few and

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Speaker 3: far between. I think that came out five years ago.

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01:47:55,492 --> 01:47:57,133
Speaker 3: Got to take a quick break, but taking more of

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Speaker 3: your calls, O eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do

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01:47:59,652 --> 01:48:01,732
Speaker 3: you still love going to the cinema or you're all

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01:48:01,772 --> 01:48:02,852
Speaker 3: about watching it at home?

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01:48:02,933 --> 01:48:05,333
Speaker 4: Love to hear from you back in the mow, the.

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01:48:05,173 --> 01:48:09,092
Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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01:48:09,133 --> 01:48:13,252
Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks that'd.

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01:48:13,013 --> 01:48:15,532
Speaker 3: Be It is fourteen to four and we're talking about

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01:48:15,572 --> 01:48:17,093
Speaker 3: going to the cinema. Is it still a big thing

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Speaker 3: for you?

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01:48:17,692 --> 01:48:19,732
Speaker 2: Now? You have pushed back on me and found a

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01:48:19,772 --> 01:48:23,092
Speaker 2: few Netflix films that are of a high quality.

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01:48:23,173 --> 01:48:23,372
Speaker 7: Yep.

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01:48:23,412 --> 01:48:24,372
Speaker 4: So I've just gone through.

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Speaker 3: So the First Knives out, as you mentioned, that was good,

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01:48:26,572 --> 01:48:28,773
Speaker 3: uncut gems with Adam Sandler.

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01:48:28,492 --> 01:48:31,013
Speaker 2: Fantastic, grateful, It's so stressful.

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01:48:30,732 --> 01:48:31,412
Speaker 4: Very stressful.

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01:48:31,412 --> 01:48:34,132
Speaker 3: All Quite on the Western Front was a Netflix original

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01:48:34,133 --> 01:48:37,532
Speaker 3: that was fantastic. I'll put Extraction in there with Chris

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01:48:37,572 --> 01:48:39,133
Speaker 3: hemswith I really like that.

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01:48:39,532 --> 01:48:40,412
Speaker 2: Both those movies are good.

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01:48:40,452 --> 01:48:40,652
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:48:40,652 --> 01:48:43,773
Speaker 3: And Triple Frontier was another war one that was fantastic

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01:48:43,812 --> 01:48:47,932
Speaker 3: and that had just been with me Oscar Isaac ben

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01:48:48,093 --> 01:48:51,013
Speaker 3: Fleck and Charlie Hunham and it and Pedro a young

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01:48:51,053 --> 01:48:52,972
Speaker 3: Pedro Pascal. But I really enjoyed that one too.

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01:48:54,013 --> 01:49:00,652
Speaker 22: And your thoughts, I'm just ringing because I welcome more

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01:49:00,732 --> 01:49:04,133
Speaker 22: things coming into my house so I can watch them

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01:49:04,173 --> 01:49:09,012
Speaker 22: on the television. I lost my husband quite young, and

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01:49:10,013 --> 01:49:12,852
Speaker 22: I tend to not want to go out so much,

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01:49:13,412 --> 01:49:16,213
Speaker 22: and I do watch quite a lot of the TV,

2232
01:49:16,333 --> 01:49:20,333
Speaker 22: and most of it's trash. I usually it usually has

2233
01:49:20,372 --> 01:49:23,892
Speaker 22: to be reality TV. I enjoy that most of all.

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01:49:23,933 --> 01:49:26,733
Speaker 22: And there have been some good ones, as David Attenborough

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01:49:27,173 --> 01:49:30,372
Speaker 22: there was a Flight to the Moon like those real

2236
01:49:30,412 --> 01:49:34,772
Speaker 22: life ones. But you know, there are people that can't

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01:49:34,933 --> 01:49:38,253
Speaker 22: just get out. I've done things to myself. I've damaged

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01:49:38,293 --> 01:49:40,293
Speaker 22: myself that they can't get in and out very well

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01:49:40,372 --> 01:49:44,372
Speaker 22: to the pictures, and you're forgetting that. But we're still

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Speaker 22: here and we've still got brains going.

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01:49:46,973 --> 01:49:49,293
Speaker 2: That's a shame that you can't get out in but

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01:49:49,333 --> 01:49:51,812
Speaker 2: the But and if they're in the movie theater, they

2243
01:49:51,812 --> 01:49:54,772
Speaker 2: still make it to to in front of you, they

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01:49:54,772 --> 01:49:57,253
Speaker 2: still make it into the streamers. Eventually, there's just a

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01:49:57,293 --> 01:50:00,372
Speaker 2: longer window. And and the idea is that that that

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01:50:00,412 --> 01:50:02,412
Speaker 2: we're really talking about is that that Netflix will then

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01:50:02,492 --> 01:50:06,933
Speaker 2: be in charge artistically of the of the properties that

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01:50:06,973 --> 01:50:10,412
Speaker 2: Warner Brothers own. So I guess the concern for us

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01:50:10,492 --> 01:50:15,093
Speaker 2: is that the Netflix will lower the quality of the

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Speaker 2: films because they're not being made directly for cinema. But

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01:50:19,093 --> 01:50:21,652
Speaker 2: you will get to see them, you know, right now,

2252
01:50:21,692 --> 01:50:24,452
Speaker 2: you do get to see them eventually, that might just

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01:50:24,492 --> 01:50:27,333
Speaker 2: be three months after they come out in the theater exactly.

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01:50:27,572 --> 01:50:29,812
Speaker 22: And I know there will be problems like that, but

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Speaker 22: I wouldn't go down to the pictures now. I wouldn't

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01:50:33,893 --> 01:50:36,492
Speaker 22: be comfortable. I've done various things like breaking my arm

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01:50:36,532 --> 01:50:39,293
Speaker 22: and things like that, and I just wouldn't go down

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01:50:39,333 --> 01:50:41,093
Speaker 22: and I'd miss out on it. And so you just

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01:50:41,173 --> 01:50:44,972
Speaker 22: have to tick. There are people that could do at home.

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Speaker 4: Yep, it's fair end. Thank you very much for your

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01:50:47,893 --> 01:50:50,293
Speaker 4: phone call, Sierra. How are you.

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01:50:51,973 --> 01:50:56,172
Speaker 23: I haven't mentioned Tyler, excuse me. I've got some advice

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01:50:56,253 --> 01:51:00,293
Speaker 23: for grandparents. And there's cost of living crisis. So by

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01:51:00,333 --> 01:51:04,013
Speaker 23: the time they've paid for the tickets for the grandparents,

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01:51:04,412 --> 01:51:07,812
Speaker 23: the grandchildren, the food during the picture, and the parking,

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01:51:08,412 --> 01:51:11,253
Speaker 23: probably spends about one hundred and fifty dollars right just

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01:51:11,333 --> 01:51:14,612
Speaker 23: for one movie. So my solution is, I haven't been

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01:51:14,612 --> 01:51:16,252
Speaker 23: to the pictures for fifteen years?

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01:51:16,652 --> 01:51:16,972
Speaker 16: How many?

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01:51:17,173 --> 01:51:17,932
Speaker 9: How many years?

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01:51:18,133 --> 01:51:19,133
Speaker 2: Family is do you say, sir?

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01:51:19,652 --> 01:51:22,173
Speaker 11: But fifteen fifteen, one?

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01:51:22,253 --> 01:51:22,452
Speaker 7: Five?

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01:51:22,492 --> 01:51:26,452
Speaker 23: Ok, yep, yeah, yeah, because you don't have to. All

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01:51:26,492 --> 01:51:28,652
Speaker 23: you have to do is get a DVD player. You

2276
01:51:28,692 --> 01:51:31,013
Speaker 23: can watch as many movies as you want, only for

2277
01:51:31,093 --> 01:51:33,772
Speaker 23: three dollars each at the charity op shop. So I've

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01:51:33,772 --> 01:51:37,452
Speaker 23: got over one hundred DVDs. And what the grandparents should

2279
01:51:37,492 --> 01:51:40,213
Speaker 23: do instead of spending one hundred and fifty dollars, take

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01:51:40,293 --> 01:51:42,452
Speaker 23: the kids along to a knock shop that they've got

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01:51:42,452 --> 01:51:45,732
Speaker 23: a big children's section of DVDs. Let them pick out three,

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01:51:46,053 --> 01:51:48,933
Speaker 23: you pick out three. You could get six DVDs for

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01:51:49,053 --> 01:51:52,213
Speaker 23: under twenty dollars, and anyone should do that. Old people

2284
01:51:52,253 --> 01:51:54,213
Speaker 23: can't get to the if they can't get into the

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01:51:54,213 --> 01:51:57,492
Speaker 23: theater because of theirbility issues. If you've got a DVD player,

2286
01:51:57,772 --> 01:52:00,452
Speaker 23: but twenty one dollars you could buy seven DVDs and

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01:52:00,452 --> 01:52:02,732
Speaker 23: that's what you can watch over the holidays. They've got

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01:52:02,812 --> 01:52:05,612
Speaker 23: I mean, I've I've got everything from John Wan There's

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01:52:05,652 --> 01:52:09,572
Speaker 23: down to maybe there's children, Steve McQuinn. They've got TV

2290
01:52:09,692 --> 01:52:12,652
Speaker 23: series you know, yes, honestly check.

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01:52:13,093 --> 01:52:14,172
Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Sarah.

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01:52:14,213 --> 01:52:16,892
Speaker 2: So that's slightly off topic, but appreciate it, Sarah. Going

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01:52:16,893 --> 01:52:19,652
Speaker 2: back to the DVDs, Yeah, I mean Netflix started off

2294
01:52:19,772 --> 01:52:21,252
Speaker 2: being a DVD mail outservice.

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01:52:21,732 --> 01:52:22,333
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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01:52:22,372 --> 01:52:24,612
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can definitely get cheap DVDs out there.

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01:52:24,612 --> 01:52:27,053
Speaker 2: Sarah is one hundred percent right. But is it the

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01:52:27,053 --> 01:52:29,372
Speaker 2: same experience as going and sitting in the dark in

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01:52:29,412 --> 01:52:32,973
Speaker 2: a movie theater. I'm watching on a huge screen with

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01:52:33,053 --> 01:52:35,933
Speaker 2: the incredible sound system and the interacting with people, and

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01:52:36,013 --> 01:52:37,812
Speaker 2: I get that some people can't get out of the house,

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01:52:38,253 --> 01:52:39,093
Speaker 2: but some can.

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01:52:39,293 --> 01:52:39,812
Speaker 4: Yep, and.

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01:52:41,333 --> 01:52:43,652
Speaker 2: The head of Netflix are saying he wants to take

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01:52:43,692 --> 01:52:45,333
Speaker 2: the movies out of the movie theater and have it

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01:52:45,412 --> 01:52:46,213
Speaker 2: only at home.

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01:52:46,812 --> 01:52:51,452
Speaker 3: He reckons he's saving Hollywood as well. What do you say, Andrew, Yeah, I.

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01:52:51,372 --> 01:52:52,013
Speaker 11: Agree with them.

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01:52:52,173 --> 01:52:54,372
Speaker 21: Look, I went to the movies for the first time

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01:52:54,933 --> 01:52:58,213
Speaker 21: and probably eight years. A couple of months ago, I

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01:52:58,253 --> 01:53:00,892
Speaker 21: paid I think it was twenty seven dollars each to

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01:53:00,933 --> 01:53:03,612
Speaker 21: go and watch a movie, nineteen dollars for a glass

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01:53:03,652 --> 01:53:07,612
Speaker 21: of wine each, eight dollars for an ice cream the

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01:53:07,652 --> 01:53:12,253
Speaker 21: size of my face nail, and then was bombarded by

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01:53:12,372 --> 01:53:15,892
Speaker 21: half an hour of ads. And then I discovered I

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01:53:15,893 --> 01:53:20,933
Speaker 21: can fall asleep in the movies just as well as.

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01:53:20,412 --> 01:53:22,372
Speaker 4: Absolutely How good are sorry?

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01:53:22,532 --> 01:53:25,013
Speaker 2: I'm just impressed by the size of Andrew's thumbnails.

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01:53:25,293 --> 01:53:28,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a It's either a big thumbnail or an

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01:53:28,053 --> 01:53:29,333
Speaker 3: incredibly tiny ice cream.

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01:53:29,532 --> 01:53:31,932
Speaker 2: Seems like about the size of a tennis ball.

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01:53:32,093 --> 01:53:32,372
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:53:32,372 --> 01:53:33,293
Speaker 4: How good are the trailers?

2324
01:53:33,293 --> 01:53:33,452
Speaker 7: Though?

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01:53:33,492 --> 01:53:35,733
Speaker 4: When you go to the cinemata the trailer of Fantastic.

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01:53:36,093 --> 01:53:37,372
Speaker 2: If you don't want to watch the ads, your time,

2327
01:53:37,372 --> 01:53:39,732
Speaker 2: it so arrive a bit later. But yeah, part of

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01:53:39,732 --> 01:53:41,133
Speaker 2: going to the movies is to watch the trailers. If

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01:53:41,133 --> 01:53:41,772
Speaker 2: you're mean, I love them.

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01:53:41,853 --> 01:53:44,092
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good. Right, We're gonna play some messages

2331
01:53:44,133 --> 01:53:46,812
Speaker 3: back very shortly though. It is eight minutes to four.

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01:53:47,772 --> 01:53:51,293
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2333
01:53:51,492 --> 01:53:52,492
Speaker 1: everything in between.

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01:53:52,692 --> 01:53:55,652
Speaker 9: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

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01:53:55,652 --> 01:53:55,933
Speaker 19: It be.

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01:53:57,692 --> 01:53:59,932
Speaker 4: News talks, there be it is six two four?

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01:54:00,253 --> 01:54:02,532
Speaker 2: Does this mean the movie World on the Gold Coast

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01:54:02,612 --> 01:54:03,812
Speaker 2: is going to be called streaming world?

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01:54:03,853 --> 01:54:04,133
Speaker 15: Right now?

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01:54:04,333 --> 01:54:04,612
Speaker 20: Is called?

2341
01:54:04,893 --> 01:54:05,053
Speaker 13: Good?

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01:54:05,173 --> 01:54:05,452
Speaker 18: Question?

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01:54:05,692 --> 01:54:06,732
Speaker 2: Man? Movie world is good?

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01:54:06,893 --> 01:54:08,053
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fun time.

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01:54:08,053 --> 01:54:09,492
Speaker 2: What's the other? Dream World?

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01:54:09,812 --> 01:54:11,052
Speaker 4: Yeah, dream World of movie World.

2347
01:54:11,173 --> 01:54:14,133
Speaker 2: Those are two fantastic theme parks on the GOLDI oh

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01:54:14,173 --> 01:54:16,692
Speaker 2: my god, they're good. Great roll a few years ago,

2349
01:54:16,772 --> 01:54:20,572
Speaker 2: so so freaking good. Hi guys, I think my fam

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01:54:21,333 --> 01:54:23,812
Speaker 2: I think for my family we watch on Netflix movies

2351
01:54:23,853 --> 01:54:25,372
Speaker 2: that are pretty basic. But if we want to go

2352
01:54:25,372 --> 01:54:27,692
Speaker 2: to the movies, we'll watch a Blockbuster or the new

2353
01:54:27,732 --> 01:54:30,493
Speaker 2: Avatar one, which we'll watch because it's a bit more cinematic.

2354
01:54:30,893 --> 01:54:33,693
Speaker 2: So that's how we judge it. That's true. There are movies,

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01:54:33,733 --> 01:54:37,173
Speaker 2: as are saying before that, that are, you know, for

2356
01:54:37,293 --> 01:54:40,053
Speaker 2: the movie theater. So hopefully that continues.

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01:54:40,812 --> 01:54:41,173
Speaker 9: All right.

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01:54:41,213 --> 01:54:43,533
Speaker 2: That brings us the end of another Matt Heath and

2359
01:54:43,533 --> 01:54:47,133
Speaker 2: Tyler Adams Afternoons. Thanks so much for listening everyone, great

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01:54:47,213 --> 01:54:49,333
Speaker 2: chats today. The podcast will be out in an hour.

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Speaker 2: The tall, smart and handsome Ryan Bridge is in for

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless. Allen up next. But Tyler, why would I

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Speaker 2: be playing this song. My good friend, I.

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Speaker 3: Know this one post malone, Poor me a drink because

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Speaker 3: we had a fantastic chat. In regards to this comment

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Speaker 3: by bestselling author and American professor Scott Galloway and my opinion,

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Speaker 3: the worst thing to have any young people is the

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Speaker 3: anti alcohol movement. Get out, drink more and make a

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Speaker 3: series of bad decisions that might pay off.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that was an easy one for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, thank you mate. I needed one of those finally.

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Speaker 2: All right until tomorrow, I've give him a taste of

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Speaker 2: kiwi from us. You've seen busy will he goes?

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Speaker 9: Somebody pall me, change somebody from me?

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Speaker 19: Smoke, come back.

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Speaker 2: To get off, Begin on your rook.

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Speaker 14: I've been breaking my back keeping awhere the joneses, y'all.

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Speaker 2: No ill how it goes when it's some modified and

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Speaker 2: Simon ver Mi. I can't think when I can even

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Speaker 2: call my name. Somebody Parmy, train.

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Speaker 9: Somebody for me, train.

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Speaker 4: Y Hey, yes, sir, Hormy is Drake.

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Speaker 9: I'm on a buddy, Pawmi train.

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