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Speaker 3: co dot nz. On the show today, we look at

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Speaker 3: what is happening with our English curriculum. Can you Believe It?

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Speaker 3: Super Rugby kicks off tonight and before the end of

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Speaker 3: the hour we discuss what the government needs to do

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Speaker 3: to create a more more competition in the supermarket sector.

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Speaker 2: The agenda It's Fine.

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Speaker 3: At the fourteenth of February, there's been yet another serious

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Speaker 3: car ramming attack in Germany, this time in Munich. A

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Speaker 3: twenty four year old Afghan asylum seeker drove it a

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Speaker 3: group of people injuring at least twenty eight. Police say

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Speaker 3: the car accelerated before hitting a trade union rally and

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Speaker 3: officer fired one shot at the suspect before he was arrested.

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Speaker 4: It's simply terrible, just terrible when you get the news

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Speaker 4: that yet again someone has rammed into a group of people,

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Speaker 4: that there are many injured. It's a slap in the face.

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Speaker 4: We feel for the victims, We pray for the victims.

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Speaker 3: It comes around a few months after a car rammed

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Speaker 3: into a Christmas market in Magdeburg, killing at least five

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Speaker 4: Whoever commits a crime in Germany will not only be

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Speaker 4: heavily punished and go to prison, but we'll also have

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Speaker 4: to reckon we're no longer staying in Germany.

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, US Defense Secretary Pete Hexas insist Donald Trump's attempt

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Speaker 3: to negotiate a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine is

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Speaker 3: certainly not a betrayal of Ukrainian soldiers. President Trump is

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Speaker 3: planning to meet Vladimir Putin for talks to end the

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Speaker 2: There is no betrayal there.

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Speaker 3: There is a recognition that the whole world, than the

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Speaker 5: Invested and interested in peace, a negotiated peace.

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Speaker 3: Ukrainians fair Putin might try to buy off Trump that

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Speaker 3: Ukraine's Foreign minister has reassured NATO allies the fight is

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Speaker 3: not over.

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Speaker 6: We're continuing. We're strong, we're capable, We're able, we will deliver.

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Speaker 3: And that's the agenda.

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Speaker 3: New Dog said the it's eight past five. So what

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Speaker 3: is going on with people? Why all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: our people ramming police cars like their evape store. What

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Speaker 3: is happening to us as a society that we get

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Speaker 3: so angry we use a vehicle as a weapon and

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Speaker 3: aiming at the police. Why don't we respect the police?

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Speaker 3: Clearly these people don't care about consequences or fear them either.

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Speaker 3: Last week a police officer was struck by a vehicle

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Speaker 3: and Huntley suffering modern injuries. It comes after the horrible

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Speaker 3: Mitchell has said violent incidents like this are happening more often,

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Speaker 3: So the earliest the government brings in new laws that

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Speaker 3: allow for much tougher sentencing against violent behavior towards first responders,

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Speaker 3: road rage. I was in a small lane waiting to

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Speaker 3: Dog said they it is thirteen past five. Real credibility

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Speaker 3: issues for the Ministry of Education's new English curriculum. It's

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Speaker 3: been described as shambolic by the English Teachers Association, who

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Speaker 7: Thank you, my pleasure. Good morning.

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Speaker 1: Hey.

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Speaker 3: What has this rewrite process been like?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, shambolic I think is a really good word for it.

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Speaker 7: It's been it's been a long process so far. We

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Speaker 7: I think about September was our first lot of conversations

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Speaker 7: where we were given a draft curriculum to have a

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Speaker 7: of the holidays. So it's been all over the show.

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Speaker 7: Last few months, we've had a couple of members that

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Speaker 7: the experience they've had has been really problematic as well.

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Speaker 3: So how much extra are they trying to fit into

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting at the moment. The document that we

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Speaker 7: I think the biggest issue will be that lack of

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Speaker 7: because we've got a huge curriculum to cover. You know,

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Speaker 7: that idea of leaving students behind becomes increasing concerning if

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Speaker 7: we're trying to get through everything. One of our recommendations

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Speaker 7: deep way to ensure that our students are learning to

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Speaker 7: So that's an incredibly short timeframe to ask people to

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for your time. Gosh, you know,

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Speaker 3: me next. Super Rugby kicks off tonight. It is seventeen

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Speaker 3: News Talk said be nineteen past five. So the summer

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Speaker 3: holidays are over for our super rugby players. The season

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Speaker 3: So, based on seeing absolutely no games so far, which

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Speaker 6: Well, the only team I'm back is my fantasy team.

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Speaker 6: So I think there's a lot of uncertainty over the

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Speaker 6: and that's that's a great way to start the season.

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Speaker 6: But definitely the Blues have been in Stall's favorite.

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Speaker 3: So Tony, how big is this game on Saturday? Then

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Speaker 3: you just have to accept the fact that this is

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Speaker 3: this is the first game of the season.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I know they'll be wanting to get off to

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Speaker 6: a good start. I mean the Blues they tend to

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Speaker 6: And you know, every home game is really important. Eden

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Speaker 6: while their record at Eden Park in recent years has

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Speaker 6: Oh though they have been training it though for weeks. Stuff,

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Speaker 3: A lovely tease yesterday from the Government aimed at those

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Speaker 3: So I'm not entirely sure what this tease has accomplished

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Speaker 2: The first word on the News of the day Early

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Speaker 2: Edition with one roof make your properties, dirge simple. The

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Speaker 5: Nothing you have we see, my god, it's done.

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Speaker 6: Nothing. Have we say that you learn how to play

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Speaker 3: Good morning, This is Early Edition on New Still. I'm

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Speaker 3: for your feedback. Text reads good morning. Nikola is in

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Speaker 3: Dream World. Renew Grocery outlets. Australia only has two major

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Speaker 3: wonder when the rugby union will realize they're killing rugby

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Speaker 3: is Callum Proctor. Good morning, Callum Warning Francisco. So, Dnedan

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Speaker 3: Council is keen to get local businesses on board to

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Speaker 8: Cloudy afternoon, find spells and twenty three today Thank.

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Speaker 3: You so much. Claire Sherwood is with us from christ Church.

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Speaker 3: Clear questions over why a cost benefit analysis hasn't been

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Speaker 3: completed for a South Island based Eagle helicopter. Yes, good morning, Francesca.

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Speaker 9: that'd be under the Official Information Act, which show police

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Speaker 3: A horrible crash in Martinborough.

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Speaker 3: Mex Is are going to be a glorious day and

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Speaker 10: If you're that way inclined, yes, fine, light winds twenty

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Speaker 3: Don't have high expectations for your Valentine's Day megs, thank

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Speaker 3: you very much, every ready many good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 11: You'll be expecting lots of flowers.

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Speaker 3: And I don't like forced displays of love.

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Speaker 11: Oh I don't. You'd be the type to you know,

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Speaker 3: Say, right, want hey, you won't know what dated do?

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Speaker 11: You received something and you haven't got him? Do do

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Speaker 3: plus maybe a lovely little chocolate hard.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, just want just a little, just a little wee

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Speaker 11: two dollar job.

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Speaker 12: Good on you.

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Speaker 3: I sound so grumpy and unromantic.

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Speaker 11: It's not that.

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Speaker 3: Look, everyone to their own. You go for a day there, right,

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Speaker 3: we shall?

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Speaker 11: I go from that to talk about eels.

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Speaker 3: What's happening with the the eels?

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Speaker 11: I know they're dying.

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Speaker 3: This is terrible.

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Speaker 11: So Auckland Council they've responded to a second report mass

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Speaker 11: eel deaths in just a week. So Daniel Newman, he's

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Speaker 11: a counselor. He says its officers. They're removing dozens of

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Speaker 11: dead eels. This is at the Wattle Farm ponds and

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Speaker 11: it follows all these reports on social media. He also

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Speaker 11: says that it's likely due to a wastewater overflow triggered

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Speaker 11: by a positive council ammonia test and then apparently the

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Speaker 11: council also removed This is another two hundred dead eels

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Speaker 11: Julia found twenty kilometers away. This is an old arcade

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Speaker 11: basin and that just happened last week. So we've got

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Speaker 11: those two reports. Not good, not good.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not good at all.

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Speaker 11: Think oh with it today gladly cloudy related chows possibly

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Speaker 11: heavy south of Papakuda. Twenty five is a high here

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Speaker 11: in autos.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Neva. You returned to the newsroom

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Speaker 3: to prepare to receive all your over bouquets of flowers.

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Speaker 11: No, I've got a big box that you're just ready

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Speaker 11: for it for the arrival.

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Speaker 3: It's not too late. Folks. If you want to send

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Speaker 3: Neva a little something, here we go. Next off, we're

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Speaker 3: heading to Europe for the latest on the Munich kar

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Speaker 3: ramming attack. Overnight. It is sixteen to six.

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 2: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 3: It is thirteen to six and Vincent mcadeny is with

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Speaker 3: me from Europe and the UK. Vincent, what, good morning,

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Speaker 3: What is the latest on this attack in Munich?

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Speaker 1: Good morning, Well, this attack happened in Munich a couple

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Speaker 1: of hours ago. Scan asylum seeker drove at a group

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Speaker 1: of people in the German city. Reports say he is

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Speaker 1: a twenty four year old who had an asylum claim

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Speaker 1: rejected after coming to Germany in twenty sixteen, but has

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Speaker 1: been given a sort of leave to remain since then.

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Speaker 1: But it's understood he is someone known to officers. He

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Speaker 1: has had offenses of theft and drug usage and drug

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Speaker 1: we think sales as well, but it's unclear what his

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Speaker 1: motive was. Today he was upended by who fired one

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Speaker 1: jotted him before his arrest. But it comes just as

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Speaker 1: Munich is set to host the Munich Security Conference, which

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Speaker 1: is one of the biggest global security conferences. The Vice

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Speaker 1: President jd Vance arrived in the city, but it's unclear

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Speaker 1: at the moment whether or not this is in any

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Speaker 1: way connected to that conference. Germany has had several of

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Speaker 1: these attacks over recent years, and they've got an election

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Speaker 1: just over a week away, so that potentially could have

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Speaker 1: something to do with it as well.

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Speaker 3: Vincent very quickly, how is Europe reacting to the conversations

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Speaker 3: President Trump is having with both Russia and the Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Well, a lot of frustration and anchor as well at

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Vladimir Volenski coming out and saying very

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Speaker 1: clearly there can be no peace plan sort of forged

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Speaker 1: between Trump and Putin without him, as are reportedly going

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Speaker 1: to be a conference in Saudi Arabia on this, but

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainians saying they must be involved and that will

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Speaker 1: be the only way to secure peace. Lots though in Europe,

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Speaker 1: which is obviously you know, we've borne the brunt of

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Speaker 1: supporting Ukraine in terms of taking in Ukrainians and the

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Speaker 1: support that's been given, and also the impacts on cost

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Speaker 1: of living, and many European nations leaders angry that you know,

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Speaker 1: they're comparing it to appeasement of Hitler and saying that

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Speaker 1: Trump has already given too much away ahead of the

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Speaker 1: negotiations with that ninety minute call yesterday with Vladimir Putin.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Vincent, appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: It is eleven to six. The government has reiterated its

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Speaker 3: plan to encourage a third player into the grocery sector.

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Speaker 3: They're open to proposals, with lots of talk centering on

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Speaker 3: an international entry to the market. The plan is to

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Speaker 3: remove regulations that discourage new supermarkets and help new entrants

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Speaker 3: access land. Former CEO of what is now the Food

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Speaker 3: and Grocery Council, Ernie Newman, joins me. Now, thanks for

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Speaker 3: your time this morning.

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Speaker 5: Ernie, well impressive.

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Speaker 3: Do you think we will attract international players with these moves?

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Speaker 5: Honestly, no, I think the time has passed. I think

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Speaker 5: the good thing is that nichol and Willison's all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden to put competition right at the top of

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Speaker 5: her priority live But you know, we have enough supermarkets

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Speaker 5: in New Zealand anyway. The problem we have is the

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Speaker 5: concentration of ownership. So the correct solution to this at

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Speaker 5: this point of time is to break up what we have.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So if the government is serious about creating competition,

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Speaker 3: they should be taking your look at the current industry.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, they need to dust off the files from the

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Speaker 5: the breakup of telecom and go down that track. And

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Speaker 5: it can be done. There's plenty of you know, the

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Speaker 5: international precedent for that sort of thing when competition comes unstuck.

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Speaker 5: And we're welling to really past that point now.

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Speaker 3: So what would that look like, Ernie, if you were

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Speaker 3: breaking up the drop they we already have.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you take this, if you take the food

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Speaker 5: Stuff's group for example, you know they've got Pack and Saved,

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Speaker 5: they've got New World, they've got four Square. They're all

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Speaker 5: different what they call banot groups, and they present them

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Speaker 5: as though they're competitors, but everybody knows they're not. You know,

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Speaker 5: there's one one mister Big at the head of all

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Speaker 5: is who decides, you know, what the price today of

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Speaker 5: potatoes will be at each of those into those stores.

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Speaker 5: What we need is genuine competition where they are, they're

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Speaker 5: completely independently own and they're dealing independently with customers and

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Speaker 5: with suppliers. So that's that's the best solution, and it's

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Speaker 5: perfectly achievable.

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Speaker 3: So for example, Ernie. If you had food stuff, you

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Speaker 3: turn them into three separate ends.

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Speaker 1: Easy to have.

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Speaker 3: You knew where'da packins? Saving your four square and the

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Speaker 3: compete against each other.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd be slightly more ambitious and turn them before

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Speaker 5: because there's a wholesale operation and that needs to be

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Speaker 5: split out as well. So that's the ideal to go

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Speaker 5: four ways. But any step down that path, whether it's

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Speaker 5: just splitting out one of them or we're all three

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Speaker 5: or including wholesale, any step in that direction, I think

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Speaker 5: it's going to be a lot more productive than hoping

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Speaker 5: that somehow a new entrant is going to turn up.

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Speaker 3: And is there anything else that we can do? We

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Speaker 3: want great competition with what we already have. Is there

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Speaker 3: anything else that the government could be looking at?

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Speaker 5: I really don't believe. So. I mean they talk about,

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Speaker 5: you know, removing regulation and making it easier for a

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Speaker 5: new entrant. You know, we arguably have too many supermarkets already,

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Speaker 5: so why would a new entrant come? And again, it's

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Speaker 5: the kind of duopoly that we have sitting here just

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Speaker 5: about the impossible. We're just about an impenetrable market. They can

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Speaker 5: afford to wait for months or years to basically burn

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Speaker 5: up a new entrant with a price walk, so that

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Speaker 5: won't work. It is the breakup that is the way

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Speaker 5: to go on this.

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Speaker 3: So Annie, why do you think the talk is centering

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Speaker 3: around international bids rather than looking at what we can

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Speaker 3: already have here.

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Speaker 5: I think because perhaps the government is a bit scared,

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Speaker 5: particularly with the influence of the zan with of the

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Speaker 5: Act Party. Sorry, I think you know they're worried about

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Speaker 5: criticism that you know, they're faring in the in the

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Speaker 5: role of business or whatever. But I don't believe that

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Speaker 5: holds water. You know, you get to a point where

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Speaker 5: competition is broke into the stage that that is the

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Speaker 5: only action you can take.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there are genuine proposals from a third party?

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Speaker 5: I'd love to think so. I wouldn't be surprised. The

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Speaker 5: question is whether it's a big enough scale to make

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Speaker 5: a difference to the market and to survive long term.

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Speaker 3: Annie Newman, really appreciate your time this morning. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for that. That was formacy of what is

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Speaker 3: now the Food and Grocery Council. Up next, Mike Cosking.

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Speaker 2: Get ahead of the headlines on early edition with one

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Speaker 2: roof Make your property search simple news talk.

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Speaker 3: Sai'd be now, I'm going to be back with you

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Speaker 3: on Sunday with the Sunday Session and just after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 3: My guest is MORGANA O'Reilly, who is a key re

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Speaker 3: actress who also just happens to start in the new

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Speaker 3: season of The White Lotus, which kicks off on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: If you're a fan of the show, you'll want to

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Speaker 3: hear about all about the show, her experience of shooting

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Speaker 3: it at a luxury resort in Thailand. And joining me

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Speaker 3: now is Mike Coskin, who is with you at six.

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Speaker 3: You're a fan of The White Lotus.

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Speaker 12: Very very big fan. Unfortunately, reviews of season three are

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Speaker 12: not good.

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Speaker 2: No, well mixed.

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Speaker 3: If I've read a couple of goodies.

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Speaker 12: Where'd you read them?

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Speaker 3: Hui ah Beguardian, I think we'll join it.

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Speaker 12: I've read two and both said slow and laborious favor

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Speaker 12: sales to get to the greet.

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Speaker 3: Well, I have actually seen two episodes, have you yes?

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Speaker 3: Because it's special?

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Speaker 12: Would you say that it was the wrong Yes?

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Speaker 3: I think if you've enjoyed the first two seasons, you

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Speaker 3: have really enjoyed this great characters, great performance and really

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Speaker 3: awesome to have a key we actress in the really

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Speaker 3: how good?

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Speaker 12: Though?

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Speaker 3: As an actor, you get a job, will you go

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Speaker 3: to shoot in a five star hotel? Would you also

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Speaker 3: stay in for them?

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Speaker 12: When they filmed in Italy, which was exciting for them,

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Speaker 12: they did it out of season, obviously, and they froze

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Speaker 12: most of the time, and so they had to wear

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Speaker 12: swim suits and it was freezing, and so I don't

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Speaker 12: know how enjoyable it would have been.

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Speaker 3: Do you celebrate Valentine's Day or every day Valentine?

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Speaker 12: It's funny I should say that because the texts that

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Speaker 12: were exchanged in the early hours of this morning did

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Speaker 12: use the words every day is Valentine's Day?

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Speaker 3: Oh lovely? So you don't have high expectations, then, well

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Speaker 3: you've been softened up for that.

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Speaker 12: But I've been outcrded to be fair because she hasn't

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Speaker 12: got up yet, I don't think. But my card's a

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Speaker 12: beautiful card. It's a three dimensional card, and so they're

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Speaker 12: lovely cake it My card's not love My card's not

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Speaker 12: three dimensional. But but she didn't get me a gift,

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Speaker 12: but I got who wants.

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Speaker 3: It'skind of a little competitive. It's not the point about us.

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Speaker 12: Everything about America.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, tell me about the show.

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Speaker 12: Scott Morrison, who is Who's in the country at the moment,

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Speaker 12: So we'll take the He's been with Donald, he's got

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Speaker 12: he's a bringer friend called Donald who and so we'll

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Speaker 12: get some insight into what's going on. So anyway, so

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Speaker 12: Scott Morrison after seven thirty, but.

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Speaker 3: A boom sounds great. Thank you very much. Thank you

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Speaker 3: for joining us this morning on Early Edition. And as

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Speaker 3: I mentioned, I'll be back on Sunday with the Sunday

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Speaker 3: Session at nine am. Take care, have a good Friday,

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Speaker 3: have a Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 2: For more from Early Edition with Ryan and Bridge, listen

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Speaker 2: live to News Talks. It'd be from five am weekdays,

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Speaker 2: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio