1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Big news for our climate targets as the government sets 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the twenty fifty methane numbers at fourteen to twenty four percent, 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: which is down from twenty four to forty seven. When Langage, 4 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: the president of Fed Farmers and is with us Wayne Morning, Morning, Mike, 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: while we're on the numbers business. Out of ten, it's 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: perfect one, it's a disaster. What's your number? 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Oh, this sitting somewhere around seven or eight. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Right, so it could be better, but you're not reasonably happy. 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Well, I know we were advocating for fourteen percent, but 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: I can understand why the government's had to stay around 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: twenty four percent. So there is a bit of a 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: range there. But I'll tell you what it does. That 13 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: gives us a real clear direction of travel when it's 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: that's good for farmers to have that. 15 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: How much of this is about politics versus how much 16 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: of it's an actual number or arrange that can be tangibly, 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: realistically achieved and therefore theoretically do something good for the planet. 18 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's the best thing about this is 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: that's actually a scientific number that's got to start. They 20 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 2: were heading towards compared to the dealistic targets that were 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 2: previously in place. So that's good for farmers, it's good 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: for everyone. It's something that we can miror and we 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 2: are currently measuring and we know that we're on track 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: to achieve, so ultimately, I think this is in a 25 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: much better play. 26 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: It still plays into the business. Even if we achieve 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: the target, fantastic. How does the world benefit? I mean, 28 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: this is the New Zealand First enact argument, isn't it. 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: There will be lots of countries that don't even get 30 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: close to the target. The world isn't going to measurably 31 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: improve in any way, shape or form no matter what 32 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: we do. So therefore, how much do you want to 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: punish your farmer for? 34 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what it leads into, and what I 35 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: guess what it's also saying is that, hey, we're really 36 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 2: on track to achieve this. We're on a track for 37 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 2: farmers to not add to warming at all, which is 38 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: what they're asking us for. If we can do that, 39 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 2: if we can stay with un A makes the target 40 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 2: and still keep our markets and everything else, then hasn't 41 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 2: had a good thing? And I think that's what this 42 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 2: announcement is reflecting, and it's what we've been advocating for 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 2: for quite some time. 44 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister always runs the free trade argument that 45 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: these free trade deals these days have this you've got 46 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: to be doing your bit for Paris line and do 47 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: we still fit in comfortably in the trade In other words, 48 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: you're not being affected adverse by thiss. 49 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: We explored ninety five percent of our milk products. We 50 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: explored ninety percent of our red mat products. We are 51 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: hugely dependent on trade and what a consumer or a 52 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: customer overseas it's asking for. And so if this is 53 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: currently what they're asking for, hey, we've got to live 54 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 2: up to that and that's what some of these agreements 55 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 2: are about. But at the same time, we can't be 56 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: going broke. I mean, we've been down We've been down 57 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: many rural towns in New Zealand we've seen empty storefronts. 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: I know you're going to have the teachers on the 59 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 2: showy that today tomorrow probably asking for more money. Where 60 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: do you think that comes from? That comes from the 61 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: agricultural sector. And we've got to make sure that we're 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: humming and not driving ourselves broke because having some idealistic 63 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: target won won't achieve that. 64 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: Do you think you've got the country on board because 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: the Greens and the labor disagree with you and they 66 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: disagree with this decision. Therefore it's potentially an election argument, 67 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: isn't it. 68 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, quite disappointing probably that that's the case, because they 69 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 2: should be in favor of this ranger. I mean that's 70 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: what there was an independent scientific panel that went and 71 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: reviewed this. That's what they came out with, should been 72 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: and in align with that. To say to have them 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: come out kind of a reughle against it or saying 74 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: that our markets will be worried, well, if the market 75 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: to worry, then let the market take care of that. 76 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: You know how processes want to say, how you need 77 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: to do this or need to do that, then yeah, 78 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: we'll get amongst it. But setting an idealistic target that 79 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 2: no one can achieve that will destroy roural communities, that's 80 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: not what it's about. 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: Good stuff, Wayne, appreciate it, Wayne landforst who's the presented 82 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: of fed Farmers. There was a suggestion over the weekend 83 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: that New Zealand first would pull the trigger of the 84 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: agree to disagree part of it because they're particularly agreed 85 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: with what's going on. So they didn't because I think 86 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: we might have got them across the line. 87 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 88 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 89 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.