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Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy nineteen past five. Word is Damien McKenzie is

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Speaker 1: going to be dropped at ten for the Test this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Boden Barrett is going to replace him. Liam Napier at

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand Herald broke the story and is with

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Speaker 1: us he Liam evening, Heather, what's happened here? Has Damien

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Speaker 1: just used up as chances?

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Speaker 2: Well? Look the so far this year Scott Robinson has

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Speaker 2: retained unwavering trust to McKenzie. But you say eight tests

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Speaker 2: this year, But you're never sure about these things until

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Speaker 2: they're officially dropped. But certainly the Windy City carries strong

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Speaker 2: whispers that Boden Barrett will be at ten this week

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Speaker 2: and it will be a big chance for him as

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Speaker 2: it will be his first test at number ten for

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Speaker 2: the All Black since November twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Now, I mean the thing about it is taking Damien

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Speaker 1: off the off the field actually gives them a couple

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Speaker 1: of really good performers on the field. Right, it's Boden

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Speaker 1: Barrett at number ten and it's Will Jordan at fullback.

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Speaker 1: How much of this is about actually trying to get

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Speaker 1: rid of Damien or trying to get those two guys on.

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Speaker 2: I think it's about looking at alternatives. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's about moving on from Damien completely, but it's about

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Speaker 2: having a look at some different combinations. Will Jordan was

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Speaker 2: very good at fullback last week. That's his favorite position.

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Speaker 2: Boden Barrett wants to play ten. He's made no secret

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Speaker 2: of that. And you have to have options. And the

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Speaker 2: Alls this is their last test at home this year.

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Speaker 2: They're about to head north later in the air for

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Speaker 2: three very grueling tests against England's Islands and France, and

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Speaker 2: so they need alternative options. They need to find out now.

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Speaker 2: They need to have a look at these things because

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Speaker 2: if they don't, then they're in a bit of a

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Speaker 2: hole and they haven't tried out other options.

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Speaker 1: It's going to knock his confidence, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It could do, But it also might have been plans

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes. I'm sure there's discussions that would have

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Speaker 2: gone on. Damien would have been aware of it, but

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Speaker 2: he's had eight chances. He's performed well in some matches,

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Speaker 2: but game management's the big question with Damien. He's a

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Speaker 2: bit of a fly in the bottle. He's a bit

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Speaker 2: of a free spirit, and the All Blacks haven't scored

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Speaker 2: a point in the last quarter of their last five test, Heather,

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Speaker 2: and that's a major problem. And that's not on him alone,

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Speaker 2: but it is a responsibility that you expect your game

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Speaker 2: driver to put you in the right areas of the

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Speaker 2: field and to convert chances, and that's been very problematic

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Speaker 2: for this all black team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, thank you for that, Liam appreciated. Liam Napier,

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Speaker 1: the Herald's chief sports writer. Coming up twenty two past.

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