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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks AB Jack Team.

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Speaker 2: And it has to be said that Kate Hall, our

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Speaker 2: sustainability expert, puts most of us to shame when it

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Speaker 2: comes to sustainability projects. Sometimes though, sometimes even the most

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Speaker 2: open minded of us have to think huh with some

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Speaker 2: of the things that Kate decides to do, and I reckon,

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Speaker 2: she's got a real doozy for us today morning.

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Speaker 3: Kate, Good morning Jack.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about the project you've just undertaken involving

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Speaker 2: drying avocado PEPs.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so you know, we know that buttons are usually

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Speaker 3: made from plastic, right, which plastic try to avoid as

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Speaker 3: much as possible. And also I had of pips usually

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Speaker 3: just go straight in the compoffs, so you can't really

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Speaker 3: eat them that some people say you can, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not about to try. No, and they're kind of yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're a waste. So I saw some inspiration line and

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Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes online kind of doy tips really don't work out,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're faking something in a video, but this

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Speaker 3: one worked. So I made buttons from avocado pits.

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Speaker 2: What so just talk us through the process of that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I laid probably about six or seven of

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Speaker 3: them on the windowsills for about a week. Yes, yep,

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Speaker 3: avocado pits yep. So there was a good excess that

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Speaker 3: you want avocados, Yeah, and so they drive you take

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Speaker 3: off that like husky bit that often kind of falls off.

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Speaker 3: They're outer kind of shell. And then I cut them

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Speaker 3: up into kind of the thickness I wanted for a button,

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Speaker 3: but I kept them quite thick and chunky, and then

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Speaker 3: cut them into the shape of a button. And I thought,

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Speaker 3: because pips, like avocado pips, are pretty tough, so I

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Speaker 3: thought maybe i'd need like a saw or you.

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Speaker 2: Know, how did you cut them?

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Speaker 3: Well, literally, just have a kitchen knife, like not even

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Speaker 3: a super sharp one. They're actually pretty soft and yeah,

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Speaker 3: easy to work with. So yeah, once I had that

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Speaker 3: button kind of shape, I then laid them again on

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Speaker 3: the window sill to dry, and then kind of from

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Speaker 3: that point they just basically act like wood. So I

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Speaker 3: then sanded them so they're all a round like a button.

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Speaker 3: Actually sorry, Before I dried the button shape, I also

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Speaker 3: just use a really thin drill bit to make the

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Speaker 3: two holes for the button. Yeah, sanded them to shape

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Speaker 3: and oiled them up and they just look exactly like

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Speaker 3: wooden buttons that you you know wooden buttons and shops

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Speaker 3: are not sure if you've ever had to buy some,

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Speaker 3: but they're pretty expensive and this only costed a bit

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Speaker 3: of my time, which you know, some people argue, just

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Speaker 3: go buy the done buttons case. But it was really

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Speaker 3: fun and it was satisfying, and you know.

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Speaker 2: Like why not, So how many buttons you had sex

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Speaker 2: or seven ever coated? How many buttons did you end

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Speaker 2: up with?

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Speaker 3: Well, I was really picky with the colors, but I

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Speaker 3: wanted for the button so and also the strength. So

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Speaker 3: I know some people have made avocado buttons before, not

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Speaker 3: many people, but some and they say that they snapped,

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Speaker 3: so I like basically did a snap test at the

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Speaker 3: very beginning, so I reckon. So I got ten buttons right,

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Speaker 3: but I like there was mould for at the start,

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Speaker 3: but they just they didn't make the cut. But yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: team really strong.

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Speaker 2: So you're probably you're probably going to get one to

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Speaker 2: make between one and two buttons per stone once you

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Speaker 2: get good.

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Speaker 3: Once ones that are really really good. But you could

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Speaker 3: technically get ten buttons from one pit because you know

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Speaker 3: you're slicing this and but the there's the science behind

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Speaker 3: the avocado pip, you know your up closing personal There's

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Speaker 3: different grains of it, and it grows in different ways.

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Speaker 3: There's a different kind of actually knobbly bits inside. You

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Speaker 3: gotta yeah, you've got to be picky if you want

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Speaker 2: And how do you put a hole in the buttons?

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Speaker 3: So again it's it sounds like you have to like

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Speaker 3: drill it, but I just with my hand twisted a

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Speaker 3: really really fine drill bit through the so literally just

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Speaker 3: with pressure. So yeah, I didn't have to use any

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Speaker 3: power tools or anything. And it actually it was much

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Speaker 3: softer and easier after you dry it. Then yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know it's hard like again exactly like wood, but it worked.

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Speaker 2: Trade and what have you used them on now? Like

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Speaker 2: if you you've like, have you got a sweeter that

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Speaker 2: needed or a cardigan that needed buttons or something?

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Speaker 3: Yes, So that that inspiration behind it was Mum had

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Speaker 3: made this little kid's jersey which hopefully will be for

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Speaker 3: my future children one day, and so we put some Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we put those little buttons onto the cardigan. So you know,

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Speaker 3: there might be a kid one day who can be like, yeah, actually,

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Speaker 3: my mom, they do But they might get teased, but

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Speaker 3: you know, they'd probably be they'll probably get more friends

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Speaker 3: from it.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to So if you didn't know better, and

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Speaker 2: you just saw the clothing or saw the buttons with

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Speaker 2: the it's all that you know, saw the item of

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Speaker 2: clothing with the buttons on it, would you know any better?

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Speaker 3: No? Absolutely not. You just think they were those fancy

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Speaker 3: wooden buttons that someone bought for like thirty to fifty

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Speaker 3: dollars in a crash shop.

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And could you like you presumably could color them and

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Speaker 2: stuff as well, right, if you really were enthusiastic about it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I don't know how how they take to die,

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Speaker 3: but you could and you vanished them. Maybe I didn't

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Speaker 3: really want to vanish them.

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Speaker 2: Probably nice anyway, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly? Green yep, man, you think.

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Speaker 2: Of some crazy things. So do you like we we

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Speaker 2: do you get your inspiration for stuff like this?

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Speaker 3: I think I do like to spend time looking at

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Speaker 3: different materials and items and then like, you know, like

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Speaker 3: what else could this be? Yeah? So I like to

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Speaker 3: get creative with food and different things. But also you

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Speaker 3: just when you look around and think about different elements

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Speaker 3: that we often throw out or just walk by, like

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Speaker 3: hair ties on the ground that you rescue, you know,

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Speaker 3: different things that you think rubbish or yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: I just try to and get my creativity flowing things.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is this is waste? What else could

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Speaker 3: this be? Yeah, and that's really fun and satisfying. Also

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Speaker 3: obviously following other inspirational accounts online and just keeping your

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Speaker 3: eyes eyes and ears peeled for different ideas.

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Speaker 2: As helpful to So you've done the avocado buttons, we

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Speaker 2: know that you recycle the hare ties that you find

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Speaker 2: on the ground. Just randose here ties, you give them

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Speaker 2: a wash and just where you go.

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Speaker 3: Never buy a hairsaye game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So is there any other crazy, like really unusual little

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Speaker 2: sustainability hacks you have for us?

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Speaker 3: Well recently, I actually I did this a few years ago,

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Speaker 3: but I've really gotten into the habit now. It's been great.

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Speaker 3: I ate a lot of eggs from a local egg

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Speaker 3: lady and they the eggshell, you know, is really good

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Speaker 3: for the garden, but when you put it in the composts,

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Speaker 3: they don't actually break down very fast. Like even once

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Speaker 3: you've kind of got cured and processed compost, often there's

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Speaker 3: bits of eggshell so I leave my eggshells out to

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Speaker 3: dry and then put them in a container in my fridge.

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Speaker 3: So like currently in my fridge you'll find two quite

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Speaker 3: large containers just full of eggshells. Then when I next

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Speaker 3: have the oven on WHI should actually be today putting

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Speaker 3: some roast vegetables, I'll lay all those egg shells out

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Speaker 3: on a tray in the oven to fully dry, and

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Speaker 3: then I blend them in my blender and it makes

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Speaker 3: this fine, fine white powder and then I can add

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Speaker 3: that to my houseplants, to my dig garden. Yeah, as

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Speaker 3: a fertilizer. And they say that like pests and some

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Speaker 3: stuff don't really like it too, So I kind of

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Speaker 3: haven't fully put that to the test yet. I'm doing

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Speaker 3: some tests. But yeah, it's a much much better fodlazer.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's very clever. Yeah, Okay, all right, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to leave you with a question for you to stew

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Speaker 2: over for next time we speak. Okay, okay, there's a question,

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Speaker 2: when you think about all these different things that you do,

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Speaker 2: the recycling eggshells, all that kind of stuff, how many

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Speaker 2: minutes or hours a day do you think you spend

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Speaker 2: doing like sustainability hacks. So think about that. You can

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Speaker 2: tell us next time we speak. You stew over it

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Speaker 2: and now work it out. You come back to us

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Speaker 2: with a number, and thank you so much. You've got

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Speaker 2: to put some of those photos online so we can

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Speaker 2: see you what you have A kardo buttons look like Okay,

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Speaker 2: absolutely fantastic, so Okate, thank you. That is Kate Hall,

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Speaker 2: our sustainability commentator. You can find her on the social

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Speaker 2: media platforms and hopefully see some of those photos by

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Speaker 2: searching ethically Kate.

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