1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks at B. 3 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:15,893 Speaker 2: Apple had its big splash event this week, the one 4 00:00:15,893 --> 00:00:18,813 Speaker 2: they do in September every year with our announced new iPhones. 5 00:00:18,853 --> 00:00:21,493 Speaker 2: But like I've lamented on the show before, it sort 6 00:00:21,493 --> 00:00:23,173 Speaker 2: of feels like we're at a stage when it comes 7 00:00:23,213 --> 00:00:27,093 Speaker 2: to smartphones, Like the iterations don't really change that much. 8 00:00:27,253 --> 00:00:29,253 Speaker 2: They're just kind of tweaking the cameras a little bit, 9 00:00:29,253 --> 00:00:31,813 Speaker 2: tweaking the storage, making it all go a little bit faster. 10 00:00:31,973 --> 00:00:36,453 Speaker 2: Our textbit Paul Stenhouse was no doubt watching alongside all 11 00:00:36,533 --> 00:00:38,013 Speaker 2: the Apple geeks of the world. 12 00:00:38,013 --> 00:00:39,013 Speaker 1: What did you make it a pu? 13 00:00:39,613 --> 00:00:41,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, that we are geeks, aren't we. It's pretty sad. 14 00:00:41,853 --> 00:00:44,213 Speaker 3: I've been looking at the line up and thinking do 15 00:00:44,293 --> 00:00:47,573 Speaker 3: I don't I do I? But here's the thing, Jack, 16 00:00:47,613 --> 00:00:50,213 Speaker 3: They'll makeing it more complicated for the Apple fans and 17 00:00:50,253 --> 00:00:53,093 Speaker 3: the Apple geeks because they've added a new phone to 18 00:00:53,173 --> 00:00:55,013 Speaker 3: the mix. So it used to be that you were 19 00:00:55,013 --> 00:00:57,173 Speaker 3: just saying where you're going to get basically the iPhone 20 00:00:57,213 --> 00:00:59,693 Speaker 3: or the iPhone Pro, and now they've gone and added 21 00:00:59,733 --> 00:01:04,973 Speaker 3: this iPhone ear, which looks really cool. And what they've 22 00:01:05,013 --> 00:01:08,013 Speaker 3: done is they've managed to kind of squeeze the entire 23 00:01:08,173 --> 00:01:12,053 Speaker 3: phone components into an area at the top of the phone, 24 00:01:12,493 --> 00:01:14,613 Speaker 3: and then the rest of the phone is just very 25 00:01:14,733 --> 00:01:18,773 Speaker 3: very thin. It's basically all battery. And so they say 26 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:21,293 Speaker 3: that it's the thinnest iPhone ever, And I will say 27 00:01:21,333 --> 00:01:23,693 Speaker 3: that there are forums on the internet that claim that 28 00:01:23,733 --> 00:01:26,333 Speaker 3: it is not. The body might be, but the camera 29 00:01:26,413 --> 00:01:29,093 Speaker 3: area obviously is quite thick, because it's kind of you know, so, 30 00:01:29,213 --> 00:01:34,413 Speaker 3: is it really the thinnest iPhone? Put that one through legal? 31 00:01:34,773 --> 00:01:40,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, are people really like, is 32 00:01:40,853 --> 00:01:43,373 Speaker 2: this is where the iteration has got to? Are people 33 00:01:43,453 --> 00:01:46,693 Speaker 2: really that exercised by something that's marginally slimmer than other 34 00:01:46,773 --> 00:01:50,453 Speaker 2: versions of smartphones? Or might perform later and later? 35 00:01:50,773 --> 00:01:56,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, I personally wish, like I buy the phone largely 36 00:01:56,133 --> 00:01:58,213 Speaker 3: for the camera. Obviously I use it to you know, 37 00:01:58,213 --> 00:02:00,013 Speaker 3: I even talk to you on this on my iPhone, 38 00:02:00,453 --> 00:02:04,253 Speaker 3: But like, the draw for me is the camera. But 39 00:02:04,333 --> 00:02:07,933 Speaker 3: if you could put that same camera in a significantly 40 00:02:07,973 --> 00:02:11,053 Speaker 3: smaller phone, and I mean with and height kind of smaller, 41 00:02:11,173 --> 00:02:14,213 Speaker 3: not thinner, don't care, I would be very happy. That 42 00:02:14,253 --> 00:02:16,693 Speaker 3: would be a dream. I don't want the big bulky 43 00:02:16,693 --> 00:02:20,413 Speaker 3: thing who wants that big max one. That's crazy. But 44 00:02:20,613 --> 00:02:23,613 Speaker 3: do you know one of the reasons they made the 45 00:02:23,813 --> 00:02:26,693 Speaker 3: iPhone ear possible was one as they have been building 46 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:29,733 Speaker 3: their own chips for mobile for quite some time, so 47 00:02:29,773 --> 00:02:32,453 Speaker 3: the actual processor it runs on is made by Apple, 48 00:02:32,453 --> 00:02:36,973 Speaker 3: that silicon, but they also now are doing their own modems, 49 00:02:37,133 --> 00:02:40,493 Speaker 3: and so that innovation, plus the fact that they got 50 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:43,653 Speaker 3: rid of the SIM card slot, which takes up a 51 00:02:43,653 --> 00:02:46,613 Speaker 3: fair amount of space in the side, has meant that 52 00:02:46,613 --> 00:02:49,453 Speaker 3: that whole body in the middle is now just all battery. 53 00:02:49,973 --> 00:02:52,093 Speaker 3: And the thing that caught my eye about them going 54 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:54,013 Speaker 3: getting rid of the SIM card and going all in 55 00:02:54,053 --> 00:02:57,733 Speaker 3: on eSIM is great because I don't know if you've 56 00:02:57,773 --> 00:03:00,053 Speaker 3: ever tried to change phone providers, but it's a bit 57 00:03:00,053 --> 00:03:03,893 Speaker 3: of a nightmare. eSIM makes it so much easier. You 58 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:05,733 Speaker 3: still have to do the number porting thing and blah 59 00:03:05,773 --> 00:03:08,893 Speaker 3: blah blah, but it just the fact you don't have 60 00:03:08,933 --> 00:03:11,093 Speaker 3: to go into a store and buy that silly little 61 00:03:11,173 --> 00:03:15,253 Speaker 3: chip and all that stuff. But also, if you're going overseas, 62 00:03:16,213 --> 00:03:19,213 Speaker 3: you don't need to pay your current carrier the roaming charges. 63 00:03:20,093 --> 00:03:23,653 Speaker 3: You just go overseas and you can buy eSIMs just 64 00:03:23,693 --> 00:03:27,133 Speaker 3: directly on your phone. To get roaming data, you pay 65 00:03:27,253 --> 00:03:29,573 Speaker 3: significantly less than what you would if you were doing 66 00:03:29,653 --> 00:03:31,733 Speaker 3: the kind of you know sometimes like five dollars a 67 00:03:31,813 --> 00:03:33,773 Speaker 3: day and stuff like that, right, or ten dollars a 68 00:03:33,813 --> 00:03:35,133 Speaker 3: gig and crazy numbers. 69 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:36,653 Speaker 2: And so I do that when I when I go 70 00:03:36,693 --> 00:03:39,453 Speaker 2: overseas often I'll buy a physical sim card, like if 71 00:03:39,493 --> 00:03:43,853 Speaker 2: I'm somewhere. Yeah, right, So you could go to say 72 00:03:44,093 --> 00:03:46,413 Speaker 2: Jack and Paul were going on holiday together to Columbia. 73 00:03:46,613 --> 00:03:48,853 Speaker 2: Lucky jackabee. I know it would be nice, wouldn't it. 74 00:03:48,893 --> 00:03:51,573 Speaker 2: So we go to Columbia, We arrive in Columbia, and 75 00:03:51,853 --> 00:03:55,173 Speaker 2: upon arrival we can just use the Wi Fi at 76 00:03:56,213 --> 00:04:01,413 Speaker 2: the hotel to buy an ESOM, which we then installs 77 00:04:01,493 --> 00:04:03,773 Speaker 2: kind of automatically on our phone and then means that 78 00:04:03,773 --> 00:04:07,013 Speaker 2: you're paying local rates as opposed to paying international. But 79 00:04:07,093 --> 00:04:10,893 Speaker 2: if someone were to text Jack or Paul from back 80 00:04:10,933 --> 00:04:13,973 Speaker 2: in your sibbit or in the US to our normal number, 81 00:04:14,093 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 2: it still comes through to us. 82 00:04:15,773 --> 00:04:18,253 Speaker 3: It does. Yeah, And if you're using I message it 83 00:04:18,373 --> 00:04:20,373 Speaker 3: still will as well, because you've got that data. So 84 00:04:20,613 --> 00:04:23,453 Speaker 3: because you can run you can run now multiple numbers 85 00:04:23,533 --> 00:04:26,453 Speaker 3: on your on your device. You could even have two lines. Yeah, 86 00:04:26,533 --> 00:04:28,453 Speaker 3: people over here have you know, like a work number 87 00:04:28,453 --> 00:04:30,693 Speaker 3: and a personal number both on the on their iPhone 88 00:04:30,973 --> 00:04:32,493 Speaker 3: and you can be on different carriers too. 89 00:04:32,653 --> 00:04:34,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the thing for anyone who 90 00:04:34,493 --> 00:04:36,613 Speaker 2: has a work phone and a personal phone. You can 91 00:04:36,653 --> 00:04:38,213 Speaker 2: actually have them both on the same phone. 92 00:04:38,453 --> 00:04:38,693 Speaker 3: You can. 93 00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:39,533 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool. 94 00:04:39,773 --> 00:04:40,173 Speaker 2: Yeah. 95 00:04:40,213 --> 00:04:42,053 Speaker 3: So look, I think that one was kind of like, Okay, 96 00:04:42,093 --> 00:04:44,293 Speaker 3: that's good, that's kind of exciting. It's good because I 97 00:04:44,333 --> 00:04:47,453 Speaker 3: think as well it will it will also just kind 98 00:04:47,453 --> 00:04:50,893 Speaker 3: of force the providers into thinking eSIM first, which I 99 00:04:50,893 --> 00:04:53,213 Speaker 3: think will then kind of make it easier and drive 100 00:04:53,213 --> 00:04:54,533 Speaker 3: adoption and all of that good stuff. 101 00:04:54,613 --> 00:04:54,813 Speaker 1: Yeah. 102 00:04:54,853 --> 00:04:59,213 Speaker 2: Okay, Spotify, and it's making some big changes that have 103 00:04:59,413 --> 00:05:03,173 Speaker 2: long been signaled. Finally, it's music quality is stepping up. 104 00:05:03,813 --> 00:05:06,653 Speaker 3: Yeah. And here's here's something you don't hear every day. 105 00:05:06,773 --> 00:05:09,293 Speaker 3: They won't be charging you extra for that improvement too, 106 00:05:09,373 --> 00:05:12,213 Speaker 3: which is quite nice, isn't it. So they are rolling 107 00:05:12,253 --> 00:05:15,213 Speaker 3: out their kind of high fi lossless audio offering, which 108 00:05:15,253 --> 00:05:17,013 Speaker 3: some of the other services have had now for quite 109 00:05:17,013 --> 00:05:19,253 Speaker 3: some time. I mean they first talked about this is 110 00:05:19,253 --> 00:05:22,533 Speaker 3: coming later this year in twenty twenty one. It's twenty 111 00:05:22,573 --> 00:05:26,253 Speaker 3: twenty five, so you know, good news. So they're going 112 00:05:26,293 --> 00:05:29,093 Speaker 3: to be rolling it out to fifty markets around the world. 113 00:05:29,133 --> 00:05:32,293 Speaker 3: Good news New Zealand is on that list. You'll get 114 00:05:32,293 --> 00:05:34,973 Speaker 3: a push alert if you're a if you're a Spotify 115 00:05:34,973 --> 00:05:37,173 Speaker 3: subscriber to say that you can now turn it on. 116 00:05:37,293 --> 00:05:39,613 Speaker 3: And that's the key part. You actually have to manually 117 00:05:39,653 --> 00:05:42,133 Speaker 3: turn it on you go into your setting, So look 118 00:05:42,213 --> 00:05:43,453 Speaker 3: up for that, but it should be coming in the 119 00:05:43,533 --> 00:05:44,253 Speaker 3: next couple of months. 120 00:05:44,333 --> 00:05:48,213 Speaker 2: Oh nice. And Microsoft co Pilot, which is the big 121 00:05:48,253 --> 00:05:51,053 Speaker 2: program being used increasingly by businesses. You know, for anyone 122 00:05:51,093 --> 00:05:54,253 Speaker 2: who's used the kind of outlook and Microsoft word the 123 00:05:54,293 --> 00:05:59,013 Speaker 2: suite of products that now has specialist AI agents. So 124 00:05:59,133 --> 00:06:01,133 Speaker 2: for me, it doesn't understand what an AI agent is. 125 00:06:01,213 --> 00:06:02,093 Speaker 2: Do you just want to start there. 126 00:06:02,653 --> 00:06:06,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's a specialist kind of chatbot that can 127 00:06:06,093 --> 00:06:10,413 Speaker 3: do very particular things. So what microsoftice has kind of 128 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:12,653 Speaker 3: made a little bit confusing. They've had the copilot thing, 129 00:06:12,693 --> 00:06:14,453 Speaker 3: which is kind of for everyone, and then they had 130 00:06:14,493 --> 00:06:17,013 Speaker 3: these other agents you could buy that you actually have 131 00:06:17,093 --> 00:06:20,893 Speaker 3: to pay additional subscriptions to. So now you can get 132 00:06:20,893 --> 00:06:23,613 Speaker 3: them effectively for free because they're all included in copilots. 133 00:06:23,653 --> 00:06:24,973 Speaker 3: You're going to save a little bit of money. But 134 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:28,613 Speaker 3: as an example, the finance agent for example. You think 135 00:06:28,613 --> 00:06:32,053 Speaker 3: of your agent like a person, a virtual assistant. So 136 00:06:32,133 --> 00:06:36,093 Speaker 3: it can now integrate into your enterprise resource planning system, 137 00:06:36,133 --> 00:06:40,933 Speaker 3: your ERP, something like SAP. How many acronyms can I 138 00:06:40,933 --> 00:06:45,493 Speaker 3: throze you? So you can effectively connect your accounting system. 139 00:06:45,573 --> 00:06:48,733 Speaker 3: Let's let's put it that way into that and then 140 00:06:48,813 --> 00:06:51,613 Speaker 3: you can ask your questions directly in Copilot or Excel 141 00:06:51,773 --> 00:06:54,933 Speaker 3: or Outlook. So imagine you needed to send an email 142 00:06:54,973 --> 00:06:57,853 Speaker 3: to a client requesting payment, for example, you could say, 143 00:06:57,973 --> 00:07:00,733 Speaker 3: draft me the email, It'll go away, grab the data 144 00:07:00,773 --> 00:07:03,933 Speaker 3: from SAP, put it into your email, and then could 145 00:07:03,973 --> 00:07:06,933 Speaker 3: even mark offer to do checklist in an ex spreadsheet. 146 00:07:06,973 --> 00:07:09,653 Speaker 3: Yeah that's the type of stuff. Yeah cool, so pretty neat. 147 00:07:09,653 --> 00:07:12,373 Speaker 3: So they've got them for sales, they've got them for service, 148 00:07:12,373 --> 00:07:16,293 Speaker 3: so like customer service and finance. So yeah, that will 149 00:07:16,293 --> 00:07:17,533 Speaker 3: certainly help people. 150 00:07:17,613 --> 00:07:19,853 Speaker 2: Hey, what phone are you rocking at the moment, Paul. 151 00:07:21,133 --> 00:07:22,453 Speaker 3: I think I'm on it. 152 00:07:22,573 --> 00:07:26,173 Speaker 2: See that's telling, isn't it. Sixteen that's telling the fact 153 00:07:26,173 --> 00:07:29,573 Speaker 2: that you say you being the biggest tech geek I know, say, 154 00:07:29,733 --> 00:07:32,773 Speaker 2: I think that shows you how much smartphones haven't really 155 00:07:32,853 --> 00:07:34,213 Speaker 2: changed over the last few years. 156 00:07:34,253 --> 00:07:37,533 Speaker 3: I hold onto mine so much longer, I really do, 157 00:07:37,573 --> 00:07:39,173 Speaker 3: you know? The only reason I upgrade is because I 158 00:07:39,213 --> 00:07:41,293 Speaker 3: give my old bunch to my parents. And you know, 159 00:07:41,373 --> 00:07:43,253 Speaker 3: if I'm on a two year cycle, that means one 160 00:07:43,253 --> 00:07:46,893 Speaker 3: of the parents is on a four six year cycle. 161 00:07:46,693 --> 00:07:51,933 Speaker 2: Right, So you know I'm on an iPhone eleven. So yeah, yeah, yeah, 162 00:07:51,973 --> 00:07:53,493 Speaker 2: So I've got to after as soon as I get 163 00:07:53,533 --> 00:07:54,853 Speaker 2: off the line to you here, I'm going to fire 164 00:07:54,933 --> 00:07:58,853 Speaker 2: up the coal powered furnace and I'm gonna I'm gonna. 165 00:07:59,133 --> 00:08:00,093 Speaker 1: Go a year. 166 00:08:00,173 --> 00:08:02,413 Speaker 3: It's really hard to know that orange color is pretty 167 00:08:02,453 --> 00:08:03,093 Speaker 3: cool on the pros. 168 00:08:03,373 --> 00:08:05,813 Speaker 2: I mean, my problem is that the older they get, 169 00:08:06,133 --> 00:08:09,173 Speaker 2: with more computing power they supposedly need, I'm convinced that 170 00:08:09,173 --> 00:08:12,613 Speaker 2: these companies stop giving them the you know, they stop 171 00:08:12,653 --> 00:08:14,773 Speaker 2: giving them the security upgrades and things they need. So 172 00:08:14,813 --> 00:08:17,213 Speaker 2: my one can still receive all the security upgrades, but 173 00:08:17,253 --> 00:08:19,733 Speaker 2: not for much longer. So maybe I'll have to update 174 00:08:19,733 --> 00:08:22,893 Speaker 2: it sometime soon. Hey, treat yourself, Jack, I don't know 175 00:08:22,973 --> 00:08:25,493 Speaker 2: in this economy, Paul, Hey, thank You've spoken like a 176 00:08:25,493 --> 00:08:27,973 Speaker 2: man who doesn't have a six month old who's eating 177 00:08:27,973 --> 00:08:30,893 Speaker 2: his way through half the house already. Paustine House is 178 00:08:30,933 --> 00:08:32,213 Speaker 2: our Textbert of course. 179 00:08:32,853 --> 00:08:35,973 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 180 00:08:36,053 --> 00:08:39,253 Speaker 1: to News Talks B from nine am Saturday, or follow 181 00:08:39,293 --> 00:08:40,853 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio