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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Taine podcast

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Speaker 1: from news Talk said B start your weekend off in style.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Taine and Bpure dot co dot

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Speaker 2: More in a good Morning, Welcome to News Dogs V

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Speaker 2: Jack Tame with you behind the mic through the midday Today,

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Speaker 2: big show coming up for you this morning after ten o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Our feature interview this morning, our feature as we have

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Speaker 2: every Saturday morning. Our standout interview for you on a

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Speaker 2: Saturday is British comedian Ed Gamble. He's one of those

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Speaker 2: regulars on all of those amazing British panel comedy shows,

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Speaker 2: you know, shows like QI, Mock the Week, He's on Taskmaster,

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Speaker 2: all those kind of shows. He's an extremely funny man.

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Speaker 2: He's also the co host of one of the most

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Speaker 2: popular podcasts in the UK. So he's gonna be with

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Speaker 2: us after ten this morning and before ten o'clock. A

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Speaker 2: little bit of a Winter Warmer. A little bit of

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Speaker 2: a Winter Warmer, just to kick you off for your

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Speaker 2: anzac weekend. Yeah, it's actually one of my favorite recipes.

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Speaker 2: If the spinach in your garden is going bananas at

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Speaker 2: the moment. If your spinach is going bananas, this is

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Speaker 2: the perfect recipe for you, a Sarguala recipe that we

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Speaker 2: will share very shortly right now, though it is eight

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Speaker 2: minutes past nine. Check team. I had a kind of

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Speaker 2: a funny entry in my calendar this week that kind

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Speaker 2: of took me a moment to decipher. So it said

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Speaker 2: Marva one Sea Anniversary, and my heart kind of skipped

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Speaker 2: a beat when I saw it anniversary. I thought, what,

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Speaker 2: oh ah, no, hang on, no stand down, stand down,

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Speaker 2: forget romance. What my end tree was telling me was

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Speaker 2: that I had just reached the anniversary for this very

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Speaker 2: radio show in which I had shared with you our decision,

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Speaker 2: our family's decision to become a one car household. So

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Speaker 2: we made the call at the start of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: right because Marva had this old dunga that sort of

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Speaker 2: needed to go, and in theory, it just just didn't

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Speaker 2: seem necessary to replace it. In theory, at least, sure,

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Speaker 2: it was convenient having two cars. It was what we

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Speaker 2: had always been used to. But with a little bit

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Speaker 2: that at the very least, Moving to one car was

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Speaker 2: worth a crack. So the anniversary has passed. We are

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Speaker 2: now more than two years in and I can report

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Speaker 2: we are still a one car household, and otherwise though

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Speaker 2: our circumstances have changed. So for starters, there are now

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Speaker 2: there's now four of us. We've got me, Marva, our

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Speaker 2: eight year old, and our ten week old baby, so

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Speaker 2: that means a baby capsule and a booster seat. And

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Speaker 2: we've upgraded from my oh so cool gray Toyota Corolla

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Speaker 2: My dad get used to it. Anyway, every household is different, right,

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Speaker 2: every family is different. I get that. And there are

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Speaker 2: things that make our set up easier and things that

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Speaker 2: easier to have a one car household when you live centrally,

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Speaker 2: and we live really centrally centrally, which certainly helps. But

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Speaker 2: then we also have kids, kids who have appointments and

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Speaker 2: sports and playdates with their friends, kids who need to

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Speaker 2: be in different places at the same time. The way

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Speaker 2: default to not taking the car about eighty percent of

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Speaker 2: my journeys I reckon are journeys in which I ride

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Speaker 2: the bus or I catch an uber to work. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: she rides her bike too, And honestly, that uber thing

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Speaker 2: we wouldn't feel guilty spending money on ubers if the

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Speaker 2: winning economist to work out that a few big uber

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Speaker 2: to what we were spending on insurance and parking in Petrol.

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Speaker 2: That was the theory, anyway, That was the theory, But

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Speaker 2: I looked it up. Did the sums. Last year? We

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, like catching a forty dollars uber when

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Speaker 2: previously we might have driven, that still kind of catches

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Speaker 2: in my throat. That still feels a bit galling, and

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Speaker 2: is the verdict. Well, sure it takes marginally more coordination

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Speaker 2: it has honestly been easier than I imagined. I've actually

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Speaker 2: honestly surprising benefits outside the obvious. One little thing, I

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Speaker 2: just I love not having to faff around so much

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Speaker 2: with parking. It seems minor, but it's like a quality

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Speaker 2: of life thing for me. And look, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that our setup is right or will work for every

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Speaker 2: although it has to be said. We've got really good

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Speaker 2: friends who have a three child house in a suburb

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Speaker 2: that's much further out than our one, and they manage

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Speaker 2: with one car just fine, and not once in the

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Speaker 2: last two and a bit years has either of us,

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Speaker 2: either me or Marv doubted our decision. It is cleaner,

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Speaker 2: and even if you don't care about the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's cleaner, it is certainly cheaper having a one car

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Speaker 2: household and interesting right New Zealand still has one of

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Speaker 2: the highest rates of car ownership in the world after

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Speaker 2: two years. I'm convinced that doesn't need to be so.

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Speaker 2: in to kick us off on our Saturday Morning together.

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Speaker 2: Fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning.

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Speaker 1: No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

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Speaker 2: EDB seventeen minutes past nine, Jack, wait till your kids

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Speaker 2: to be in separate places, says Brendan. That may be so, Brendan.

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Speaker 2: In the future we may need two cars, but we've

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Speaker 2: already saved money as well as any of other things

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Speaker 2: over the last two years and just having one. So look,

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Speaker 2: in five or six years time, you could be one

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Speaker 2: hundred percent right. And maybe that's my point. Maybe there

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Speaker 2: are kinds of times in our life where actually moving

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Speaker 2: to a one car household is convenient. Diana says Jack.

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Speaker 2: Can you catch an uber or a taxi with a

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Speaker 2: baby and small child and no car seat. That's probably

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Speaker 2: the problem with young families in one car. Yep, Diana,

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Speaker 2: we can't do that. So that's where we have to coordinate.

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Speaker 2: If Marva or I need to take the baby somewhere,

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Speaker 2: then we know that they've got to take the car

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Speaker 2: and that the other person will have to be on

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Speaker 2: a bike and prefer a bet or taking an uber

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Speaker 2: or catching the bus something like that. And Warwicks is Jack,

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Speaker 2: you're risk it all riding a bike, risking your health. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's funny. I mean I've been I've been riding my

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Speaker 2: bike basically all my life. I love riding my bike, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I just love it, especially when you live centrally. I

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Speaker 2: swear and rush out it's faster. But I also get

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Speaker 2: that it's not for everyone. So when Marva was pregnant,

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Speaker 2: the same as now that we have a little baby,

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Speaker 2: we're not putting that little baby on the bike in

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Speaker 2: Central Auckland. Although look, there are other people who do that,

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Speaker 4: Get a jack.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think we've just gone from two cars to

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Speaker 5: three actually because our daughter.

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Speaker 2: Tommy as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, she's just bought her own car.

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Speaker 4: So and then we've got it.

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Speaker 5: I don't think we could get by just yet, just

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Speaker 5: as as a couple with without having two cars. No, London,

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Speaker 5: my wife goes to work and and I'm at home.

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Speaker 4: You wouldn't want to be at homeal day without a car?

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Speaker 2: No, that's fair enough? Could you? And when you're traveling

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Speaker 2: around at home, do you are you like, are you

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Speaker 4: No? Not really No, So could you.

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Speaker 2: Theoretically could you like could you bust to those places?

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Speaker 2: Could you ride a bike?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? As I could bus? Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean look, it's not it's not for everyone. I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not saying everyone has to do this. I

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Speaker 2: just reckon we sometimes maybe fall into a trap, you know,

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Speaker 2: and actually if you step back sometimes and look at

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Speaker 2: it kind of critically and even do the sums like

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Speaker 2: you know, we were spending like at least fifteen hundred

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Speaker 2: bucks on car insurance plus petrol, plus parking for a

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Speaker 2: actually does that make sense?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's not like I said, not not for everyone necessarily.

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Speaker 2: And maybe there'll be years in the future even where

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Speaker 4: I'd like to work towards us having one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was worth considering at the very least. Kevin,

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Speaker 2: You've been surprised by how much research is being done

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Speaker 2: on New Zealand is killing killed in the First will

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Speaker 2: or in the in the two World Wars?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been finding out more about the death of

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Speaker 5: the First World War. What surprised me is how much

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Speaker 5: of that work's already been done by researchers with no

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Speaker 5: connection to these men. All I had to do was

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Speaker 5: google the names of my uncles, for example, Lawrence Dona Hue,

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Speaker 5: New Zealand soldier World War One, and up came pages

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Speaker 5: of information I've never known about his time in the war.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your message it ninety two ninety two

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Speaker 7: The later game gee was Queensland thirty five twenty one.

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Speaker 7: Now seven defeats across the season for the defending champions

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Speaker 7: They've got four games left they probably have to win.

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Speaker 7: Church listeners, but what a night last night for the Warriors.

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Speaker 7: what a fitting farewell to a ground. I'm sure they'll continue,

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Speaker 7: I think playing local sport there, but for a ground

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Speaker 2: We will catch again very soon. That's Esporto Andrew several

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Speaker 2: before ten o'clock. We've got that Saguala recipe. We're going

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is twenty six minutes to ten.

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Speaker 9: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 8: It's never been enough for since I was seventeen.

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Speaker 11: Now we wake up from a dream, Well, baby, what

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Speaker 2: Lord? Yeah? And that song was called what was that?

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Speaker 2: So what was that? What was that was that?

434
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Speaker 12: Wow?

435
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Speaker 2: Francisco right in our film reviewer is here with her

436
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Speaker 2: movie picks for us this weekend. Hey Francisca, you are

437
00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:54,053
Speaker 2: such a boner sometimes, I know, I know the thing

438
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Speaker 2: is what I'm I'm I mean, I'm late late thirties,

439
00:22:57,813 --> 00:23:00,213
Speaker 2: but like deep down and makes you just like a

440
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Speaker 2: seventy five year old man.

441
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Speaker 13: I'm very excited to have new music.

442
00:23:04,573 --> 00:23:07,213
Speaker 14: Yeah, the winter, Yes, I'm.

443
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Speaker 2: Really looking forward to it. It was interesting she you know,

444
00:23:08,933 --> 00:23:10,653
Speaker 2: for anyone who missed it. The other day, she tried

445
00:23:10,653 --> 00:23:12,253
Speaker 2: to do a bit of a pop up concert in

446
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Speaker 2: Washington Square Park in this cool part of New York,

447
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Speaker 2: but it didn't go very well. The authorities basically shadowed down,

448
00:23:19,413 --> 00:23:21,133
Speaker 2: so you just had like thousands and or you know,

449
00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,453
Speaker 2: thousands of people turned up expecting to see Lord and

450
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Speaker 2: then she wasn't allowed to perform, which is funny because

451
00:23:25,893 --> 00:23:31,013
Speaker 2: Washington Square Park always has lots of randos performing against Rando. Yeah, yeah,

452
00:23:31,013 --> 00:23:32,453
Speaker 2: I know. She went back and dance, but it was

453
00:23:32,493 --> 00:23:32,973
Speaker 2: quite fun.

454
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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, to get up and just dance on a.

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like she kind of embraces her

456
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Speaker 2: dancing as well. You know, she brings the kind of

457
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Speaker 2: different style, which I love. Anyway, I'm glad that you're

458
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Speaker 2: excited because I'm really looking forward to new music from Lord.

459
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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's great to see them anyway, our two

460
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Speaker 2: picks for us this weekend. Really looking forward to your

461
00:23:51,813 --> 00:23:54,013
Speaker 2: take on both of these films. So both of these

462
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Speaker 2: are showing in cinemas at the moment. Let's start off

463
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Speaker 2: with a little bit of a Listen to the trailer

464
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Speaker 2: for The Correspondent.

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Speaker 13: The protesters are making it very clear how willing they

466
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Speaker 13: are to defy the government.

467
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Speaker 3: Al Jazeera.

468
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Speaker 4: Who is it? Yes?

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Speaker 13: Who are you?

470
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Speaker 4: Are you?

471
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Speaker 2: Are you police? Starting to go? Okay, this is the

472
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Speaker 2: story of the arrest, the trial and imprisonment of an

473
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Speaker 2: Australian journalist.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a really fascinating story and it probably people

475
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Speaker 15: will remember this. So it's twenty thirteen and Peter Grestor,

476
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Speaker 15: he's the Nairobi foreign correspondent for Al Jazeera.

477
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Speaker 12: He's asked, hey, could you just.

478
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Speaker 15: Go to Cairo and we've got someone going away for

479
00:24:38,373 --> 00:24:40,933
Speaker 15: a couple of weeks over Christmas on holiday would you

480
00:24:40,973 --> 00:24:41,493
Speaker 15: mind covering?

481
00:24:41,533 --> 00:24:42,813
Speaker 12: And he's like, you no, that's no worries.

482
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Speaker 15: So he heads there and of course there's a lot

483
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Speaker 15: of unrest at that particular time, and after reporting for

484
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Speaker 15: about two days, just going about doing his job, as

485
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Speaker 15: you heard in the trailer, there's a knock on the

486
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Speaker 15: door and some people come in and then they want.

487
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Speaker 12: To take him down to sort of a police station

488
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Speaker 12: or something, and he's like, that's fine, that's okay.

489
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Speaker 15: I can get this all cleared up. And I quite

490
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Speaker 15: know what's going on here, but I know how these

491
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Speaker 15: things kind of work. And he is in something, arrested

492
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Speaker 15: with two other journalists, and it becomes apparent quite quickly

493
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Speaker 15: that this isn't something that he's going to be able

494
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Speaker 15: to clear up. He had a bit of cash in

495
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Speaker 15: his hotel suite which was for his expenses, and who

496
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Speaker 15: perdems while he was there, and they accuse him of

497
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Speaker 15: financially aiding and being part of a terrorist organization. And

498
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Speaker 15: it becomes pretty clear, as I said, becomes clear quite

499
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Speaker 15: quickly when the Australian sort of embassy visit him and

500
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Speaker 15: go there's a process we have to go through. He's

501
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Speaker 15: given a lawyer who is to represent him, who was

502
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Speaker 15: then arrested and charged with treason. It becomes clear to

503
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Speaker 15: him that this is not going to be straightforward that

504
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Speaker 15: you know what is seemingly straightforward. Hello, I'm a journalist.

505
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Speaker 15: I work with this organization. He just reporting is not

506
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Speaker 15: going to be a straightforward process. So we follow him

507
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Speaker 15: as he realizes that he is going to He ends

508
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Speaker 15: up in solitary confinement. He meets some other pretty interesting people,

509
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Speaker 15: political prisoners who sort of help him adjust to his

510
00:26:01,773 --> 00:26:05,133
Speaker 15: new situation, and along with these two other prisoners, goes

511
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Speaker 15: through the courts and spends a lot of time in

512
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Speaker 15: prison and things. Look, if you're not familiar with the story,

513
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Speaker 15: I'm not going to give away the result sort of

514
00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:15,173
Speaker 15: how it all unfolds, you can enjoy watching that. In

515
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Speaker 15: the film, Richard Roxborough plays Peter Grestor. He does an

516
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Speaker 15: absolutely fantastic job. He's in every scene in this film,

517
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Speaker 15: and you really do get a sense of the journey

518
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Speaker 15: that he went through and just that whole trying to

519
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Speaker 15: adapt to finding yourself and such an extreme situation with

520
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Speaker 15: no hope.

521
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Speaker 13: So it's really great.

522
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Speaker 12: I actually spoke to Peter Grestor and Richard Rocksborogh on

523
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Speaker 12: the Sunday Session a couple of weeks ago. It's worth

524
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Speaker 12: having a listen to the interview, especially actually if you've

525
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Speaker 12: been and seen the film, because they talk about the

526
00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:48,013
Speaker 12: making of it behind the scenes, and Peter Grestor sort

527
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Speaker 12: of talks a little bit about his career since and

528
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Speaker 12: he is still a convicted terrorist and or regarded as

529
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Speaker 12: a terrorist and is doing a lot of work to

530
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Speaker 12: bring attention to the fact that, you know, journalists just

531
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Speaker 12: going about their daily jobs can find themselves in some

532
00:27:05,973 --> 00:27:07,453
Speaker 12: pretty difficult positions.

533
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

534
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Speaker 12: Really fascinating story.

535
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Speaker 2: Okay, sounds really good. Okay, So that's the correspondent that's

536
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Speaker 2: showing in cinemas at the moment. Next up, another movie

537
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Speaker 2: at the movies, This is Sinners.

538
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Speaker 11: There are legends of people with the gift of making music,

539
00:27:23,453 --> 00:27:27,533
Speaker 11: so true, sicking conscious spirits from the path.

540
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Speaker 16: And the future.

541
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Speaker 17: This gift can bring fame.

542
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Speaker 12: And fortune, but it also compeers the veil between life.

543
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Speaker 2: And then there's a lot of heart about this film.

544
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and look, to be honest with you, I sort

545
00:27:47,253 --> 00:27:48,973
Speaker 12: of saw the train and I went, oh, it's another

546
00:27:48,973 --> 00:27:50,253
Speaker 12: sort of vampire horror film.

547
00:27:50,333 --> 00:27:54,453
Speaker 15: Oh yeah, okay, and headed along. Ryan Coogler has directed this.

548
00:27:54,653 --> 00:27:57,413
Speaker 12: He did Black Panther and Creed and he's teamed up

549
00:27:57,413 --> 00:27:58,093
Speaker 12: here with Michael B.

550
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Speaker 3: Jordan.

551
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Speaker 12: Who he has worked with a lot since they're since

552
00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:04,573
Speaker 12: his debut film, fruit Vale Station. They work together on that.

553
00:28:04,933 --> 00:28:08,493
Speaker 12: And in this film, Jordan plays these twins, Smoke and Stack,

554
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Speaker 12: and we're in the nineteen early nineteen thirties in Mississippi.

555
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Speaker 12: It's a really bold, ambitious mix this film. It's a

556
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Speaker 12: period piece. It's part gangs to flick, Smoke and Stack

557
00:28:19,253 --> 00:28:21,333
Speaker 12: of just returned from Chicago where they were sort of

558
00:28:21,853 --> 00:28:25,133
Speaker 12: moving in the mobster world. And it's also a vampire

559
00:28:25,173 --> 00:28:28,293
Speaker 12: horror and it really kind of shouldn't work, Jack, but

560
00:28:28,533 --> 00:28:31,573
Speaker 12: it all comes together and it does. And so what

561
00:28:31,933 --> 00:28:34,653
Speaker 12: they've done here is is sort of taken a popcorn film,

562
00:28:34,653 --> 00:28:38,573
Speaker 12: a mainstream sort of vampire film, and it's wonderfully over

563
00:28:38,613 --> 00:28:41,093
Speaker 12: the top, but it's got kind of some heart and

564
00:28:41,253 --> 00:28:45,493
Speaker 12: soul and all these messages and while messages galore, because

565
00:28:45,533 --> 00:28:48,093
Speaker 12: it sort of focuses on race and history.

566
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Speaker 15: And religion and repression and sin and redemption and freedom

567
00:28:52,013 --> 00:28:54,253
Speaker 15: and what is freedom and all these things. It's a

568
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Speaker 15: film really about the black American experience. Look, it's long,

569
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Speaker 15: it's two hours and seventeen and actually, to be honest

570
00:29:02,933 --> 00:29:04,733
Speaker 15: with you, it might have all been a bit much

571
00:29:04,773 --> 00:29:07,413
Speaker 15: to throw all that and never did. I love being

572
00:29:07,453 --> 00:29:10,853
Speaker 15: part of this world because the cinematography is fantastic. There's

573
00:29:10,893 --> 00:29:15,253
Speaker 15: some wonderful one shot scenes. The music is wonderful. The

574
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Speaker 15: blues it's so soulful.

575
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Speaker 12: And there's this great scene where Coogler reminds us how

576
00:29:19,053 --> 00:29:20,893
Speaker 12: timeless music is, and he shows how the blues is

577
00:29:20,893 --> 00:29:23,533
Speaker 12: at the head of so much more, even music today.

578
00:29:24,133 --> 00:29:26,493
Speaker 12: And the tone. It isn't afraid to be gory and

579
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Speaker 12: be great and have lots of fun with these vampires

580
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Speaker 12: and things so very central as well steamy. It's full

581
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Speaker 12: of life. It's not perfect, but there's lots to like.

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Speaker 2: That sounds great. Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing this one.

583
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Speaker 2: I reckon this is one. I'm deliberately going to carve

584
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Speaker 2: out a bit of space to go and see it

585
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Speaker 2: at the see it at the movies as well. Thanks Francisca.

586
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Speaker 2: So that's Sinners and Franciska's first film is The Correspondent.

587
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Speaker 2: Both of those movies, all the details of them will

588
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Speaker 2: of course be on the news talks. He'd be website Jack.

589
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Speaker 2: I've also got a knee bike and I love it

590
00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:57,493
Speaker 2: instead of just driving around you in the car. But

591
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Speaker 2: I wonder where do you leave your bike? Do you

592
00:29:59,573 --> 00:30:01,253
Speaker 2: have a really good lock? That seems to be one

593
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Speaker 2: of the hurdles that you need to accept with not

594
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Speaker 2: using cars, says Carl. So we have I have a regular,

595
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Speaker 2: good old human powered bike and my wife has an

596
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Speaker 2: e bike and sometimes I borrow her e bike and

597
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Speaker 2: just give it a bit of a black around the place,

598
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Speaker 2: because it is quite fun to ride on an e bike.

599
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Speaker 2: If you haven't readden on one, honestly, you've got to

600
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Speaker 2: try it. It's a it's a real rush. But yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: we both have really good locks, and that's how I

602
00:30:25,093 --> 00:30:28,173
Speaker 2: kind of do things, and honestly it's pretty convenient. So

603
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Speaker 2: for me, for example, sometimes if I want to go

604
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Speaker 2: to Mount Smart Stadium, like it's probably at least a

605
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Speaker 2: ten kilometer journey to Mount Smart Stadium, and so the

606
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Speaker 2: options are like I could drive there. I could try

607
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Speaker 2: and catch the train, which would take much more in

608
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Speaker 2: an hour. Driving there means like parking you know, probably

609
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Speaker 2: two kilometers away and then walking to the stadium. Or

610
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Speaker 2: I could take my wife's e bike and lock it

611
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Speaker 2: up directly outside the stadium. And I can tell you

612
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Speaker 2: that is far and away the fastest option. So if

613
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Speaker 2: I want to go and see orkand f C, or

614
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Speaker 2: I want to go and see the Warriors, that is

615
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Speaker 2: comfortably the fastest way to get there. But look, I

616
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Speaker 2: realized it's not for everyone necessarily. I'm not saying it is.

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Speaker 2: Call it to tend on newsed zedby. We're cooking Sagulea next.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Mornings with Jack Tae keeping the conversation going through

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Speaker 2: Thirteen to teen. Kate loves biking as well.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 2: I've always biked, and Christ used to write twenty five

624
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Speaker 2: k's each way to work, even in light snow. Okay, Kate,

625
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Speaker 2: you're going above and beyond. If it looks like a

626
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Speaker 2: bit wet, I'm like, I'm gonna get take the bus today.

627
00:31:32,853 --> 00:31:35,253
Speaker 2: I'm gonna catch a new bits today. Kate say she

628
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Speaker 2: loved it. I was so fit and so much petrol

629
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Speaker 2: saved now in hockey ticket. Our household has a couple

630
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Speaker 2: of cars because we have various different outdoor pursuits which

631
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Speaker 2: require them, but currently our son has one of them

632
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Speaker 2: to help him in the next town over with his study.

633
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Speaker 2: So once again we're making do nicely with one car,

634
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Speaker 2: some coordination, no excuse not to bike to town as

635
00:31:53,813 --> 00:31:56,413
Speaker 2: work is just up the road. Go the one car scenario.

636
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Speaker 2: Save the planet, save some dosh, says Kate. Well said, Kate,

637
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Speaker 2: thank you ninety two ninety two. If you want to

638
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Speaker 2: send us a message this morning. Margo Flanagan, who was,

639
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Speaker 2: of course one of the two Raw sisters, is here

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Speaker 2: with us today.

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Speaker 4: Killeder, killed a jack.

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Speaker 2: How's it going very well? Thank you great to have

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Speaker 2: you with us, and I'm so delighted that you are

644
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Speaker 2: making one of my favorite recipes. Honestly, this is this

645
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Speaker 2: is a jack tame go to. It's just I reckon.

646
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Speaker 2: Sarguala is so delicious and like very very easy, and

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Speaker 2: it kind of makes you look like a better cook

648
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Speaker 2: than you are. It's one of those kind of dishes,

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Speaker 2: you know. So for anyone who doesn't know what a

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Speaker 2: saguala is, do we just want to should we start there?

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Speaker 2: I think it might be helpful just to explain what

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Speaker 2: what aguala is.

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Speaker 11: Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 18: I mean agala is it's almost like a green curry sauce,

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Speaker 18: but it uses heaps of greens, so it's really good.

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Speaker 18: If you have a veggie garden, or if you love

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Speaker 18: a good Indian takeout, this is a really good alternative

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Speaker 18: to make yourself that full of nutrient dense ingredients. And

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Speaker 18: as you said, it's too easy.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's that's it's like a delicious Indian curry

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Speaker 2: that's actually healthy. Yeah yeah, I mean, look, there's a

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Speaker 2: bit of there's a bit of a groom in there.

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Speaker 2: I'll go. We can get to that in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But that but like you, honestly, I have like a

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Speaker 2: garden's worth of spinach in mind, and I just feel

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Speaker 2: I feel like Popeye afterwards, you know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, So so run us through the recipe.

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Speaker 2: You've you've decided to make a halloumi saguala this morning.

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Speaker 2: And I suppose you know, you could always trade in

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Speaker 2: the hallumi for different proteins. You could have chicken in

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Speaker 2: there if you wanted. I actually make mine with panier

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Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of the time.

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Speaker 18: Yes, well that's what I was going to say. You

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Speaker 18: can you can swap the hallumi out with chickpeas, panier,

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Speaker 18: chicken tofu, whatever your dietaries require. But I was in

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Speaker 18: Sri Lunka last year and I did a cooking class

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Speaker 18: and learned all about the spices, which is why this

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Speaker 18: all this recipe was inspired by my travels over there,

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Speaker 18: and if anything, I realized how simple it is to

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Speaker 18: make a curry. I think we always think, oh, I

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Speaker 18: can never make make a curry as good as takeout,

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Speaker 18: and we kind of have that joke in my household.

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Speaker 18: Whenever you make a curry, it's like, oh, yeah, that's

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Speaker 18: a that's a white person curry, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this is fantastic, So run us through the

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Speaker 2: recentme cool.

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Speaker 18: So super easy. All you need is dice one brown onion.

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Speaker 18: If you don't have brown onion, you could use red

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Speaker 18: onion or a leak, and then again with a big tomato,

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Speaker 18: so one tomato. And then we've got a little bit

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Speaker 18: of coconut cream in there, so a sort of a cup.

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Speaker 18: You could use coconut milk if you wanted to, or

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Speaker 18: just milk if that's all you head At home, We've

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Speaker 18: got four cloves of garlic, a good tablespoon of freshly

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Speaker 18: grated ginger, a teaspoon of garam masala. So Gara masala

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Speaker 18: is a mix of human coriander, peppercorns, cinnamon. So if

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Speaker 18: you don't have garamasala at home, no worries. You can

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Speaker 18: just use curry powder, or you can use a bit

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Speaker 18: of human and a bit of coriander. That'll be totally fine.

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Speaker 18: And then we've got chili flakes, or you can use

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Speaker 18: a fresh chili again depending on how spicy you want it,

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Speaker 18: a bit of cinnamon and sea salt. So you just

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Speaker 18: want to saute the onion off and everything off that

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Speaker 18: I just mentioned, and then we're going to add five

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Speaker 18: cups of greens, right, so that's a lot. But as

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Speaker 18: we all know, when you wilt down greens it turns

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Speaker 18: into nothing, so rarely chuck all the greens in there.

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Speaker 18: You can use spinach, rocket, herbs, kale, silver beet again,

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Speaker 18: whatever you have in the garden or in the fridge

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Speaker 18: that needs using, whatever's cheap, and then you just wilt

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Speaker 18: that down for about five minutes and blend it all

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Speaker 18: up in the blender or a slick blender, and that's

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Speaker 18: your delicious sarguala curry baits. So it's as easy as that.

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Speaker 18: And as we said earlier, I've put this with fried hallumi,

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Speaker 18: so I just fry the halloomi separately in a pan,

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Speaker 18: or you can use chicken panier, chickpeas, whatever your half

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Speaker 18: desire is and then add that into the sauce and

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Speaker 18: just heat it up till you've got your desired temperature.

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Speaker 18: And I like to serve mine with brown rice. You

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Speaker 18: could use white rice. I like to do chili oil,

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Speaker 18: peanuts and a bit of coriander. So it does actually

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Speaker 18: take about fifteen minutes. Yeah, and I have had the

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Speaker 18: comment so this recipe is on our two or sisters

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Speaker 18: app and a lot of women have said to me

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Speaker 18: that my husband said, this is the best meal I

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Speaker 18: ever made.

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Speaker 2: Ah, so there you go, very good. Yeah, oh that's fantastic,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I yeah, it is so easy, I reckon,

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Speaker 2: like I even do it sometimes with a little bit

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Speaker 2: of kumita or something like that, Like have a little

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Speaker 2: bit of kumita and some ponier. And then my other

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Speaker 2: thing is that I sometimes dice some like roast almonds

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Speaker 2: really finely and then sprinkle that over the top. Looks

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Speaker 2: kind of fancy, or like get some you know, sliverd almonds.

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Speaker 2: Get some of those and just chuck them over the top.

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Speaker 10: You know.

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Speaker 2: Just it's all about the presentation, Margot, Don't you worry

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 18: School about what you've got. Do you roast your komitter

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Speaker 18: before you put it in?

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Speaker 2: Or do you?

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Speaker 19: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or yet no?

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Speaker 2: I do sometimes or sometimes I just dice it and

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Speaker 2: then cook it really low and slow for ages as well. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: thank you so much. There is Margo Flanagan, one of

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Speaker 2: the two Raw Sisters. We'll make sure that recipe is

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Speaker 2: up on the News TALKSZB website and of course you

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Speaker 2: can find them by downloading the Two Raw Sisters app.

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Speaker 2: Right now, it is seven to ten.

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Speaker 2: Jack, can I please add meat to the recipe? Yes,

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Speaker 2: you can add meat to the recipe if you like.

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Speaker 2: I Ah, I mean usually sagual isn't like if you

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Speaker 2: went to an Indian restaurant. Usually it's with like a

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Speaker 2: white meat or like it's usually with chicken, or it's vegetarian.

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Speaker 2: But look, there's honestly nothing to stop you, so you

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Speaker 2: do you and we'll make sure that recipe is up

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Speaker 2: on the website very shortly, because it looks like quite

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Speaker 2: a few of you are keen to make it this weekend,

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Speaker 2: which is fantastic, Jack says Gary. Have you thought about

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Speaker 2: the fact that with your one car house, that one

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Speaker 2: car is doing more running around now that you've only

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Speaker 2: got one car often forgotten when you're looking at the savings.

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Speaker 2: Good point, Gary, But let's imagine that our one car

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Speaker 2: is doing exactly the same amount of journeys as our

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Speaker 2: two cars used to do. Right, we are still saving

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Speaker 2: on insurance and like that in our household, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just speaking for our household. Heere, the cost of insurance

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Speaker 2: is much greater than the cost of ubers and buses

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Speaker 2: that we now take separately. But yeah, I mean it's,

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Speaker 2: like I say, not necessarily for everyone. I just reckon

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Speaker 2: maybe a few more kiwis if they sat down, thought

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Speaker 2: about it, were slightly more organized stomach to the coordination

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Speaker 2: in their household, would actually find that, yes, it's doable.

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Speaker 2: It's actually surprisingly easy, and it saves your money, which

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Speaker 2: is the great thing. Anyway. It is just coming up

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Speaker 2: to ten o'clock. Our feature interview ed Gamble right after

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Speaker 2: the news. News is next though you with News Talks dB.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings.

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Speaker 1: Dot co dot instead for high quality supplements newstalks 'b.

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Speaker 2: You're with Jactaim on News Talk Zed b Ed Gamble

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Speaker 2: is a man of many hats. He is a Taskmaster

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Speaker 2: champion in the UK. He is a podcast co host.

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Speaker 2: He's an author, a television host, a stand up comedian,

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Speaker 2: and most of all, he is an absolute food maniac. Well,

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Speaker 2: maybe not a maniac, a food fanatic at the very least.

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Speaker 2: He's bringing a feast of comedy to New Zealand with

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Speaker 2: his new show Hot Diggity Dog, and ahead of his trip,

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Speaker 2: he'd Gamble is with us this morning, Calder.

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Speaker 17: Good morning, Good morning to you.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you, very excited that you're bringing

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Speaker 2: Hot Diggity Dog to New Zealand. Just just give us

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Speaker 2: a sort of the beck of the envelope explanation. Tell

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Speaker 2: us about Hot Diggity Dog.

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Speaker 17: Hot Diggity Dog is a very funny show and you

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Speaker 17: should all buy tickets. Whenever I'm asked what the show

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Speaker 17: is about, I'd normally say it's a collection of things

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Speaker 17: that have happened to me since the last time I

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Speaker 17: did a show. There's a long bit about my disastrous

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Speaker 17: honeymoon to Las Vegas. There's a long bit about me

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Speaker 17: buying a cat with my wife, and it's a lot

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Speaker 17: more exciting than my description of it makes it sound.

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Speaker 17: I'll promise you'll be on the edge of your seat,

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Speaker 17: even though it sounds incredibly tedious of middle class.

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Speaker 2: Is Las Vegas a romantic destination?

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Speaker 17: No, I wouldn't say so. I'd say it's one of

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Speaker 17: the grossest places I've ever been in my life. We

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Speaker 17: just thought it would be a fun, sort of mad

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Speaker 17: thing to do as a honeymoon, and I would now

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Speaker 17: disagree with my past self. Is a disgusting place.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if ken and I'll be all of those

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Speaker 2: things can not be fun and mad, disgusting and also fun.

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Speaker 17: Yes it can be, I would say not if you

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Speaker 17: have my personality necessarily right. I don't like gambling. I

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Speaker 17: don't like necessarily staying up past midnight.

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Speaker 4: Nice.

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Speaker 17: It was a terrible choice. We did have a lot

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Speaker 17: of fun, and let me tell you, I've got a

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Speaker 17: twenty five minute bit of stand up comedy out of it,

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Speaker 17: so it must have been worth it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's good. Just tell us what was the single

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Speaker 2: grossest thing you saw you observed in the single most

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Speaker 2: repellent observation you made in Vegas.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I mean as soon as soon as you arrive, really,

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Speaker 17: I mean we saw. It's gonna make me sound like

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Speaker 17: a real prove.

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Speaker 2: Is that the people? Is that the people gambling at

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Speaker 2: the airport? Because I always found that really alarming.

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Speaker 17: Well, that's obviously insane, because you know, why would you

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Speaker 17: gamble at the airport when you could just get in

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Speaker 17: a cab and do it in a bigger place with

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Speaker 17: more people doing it? Hugely alarming I found.

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Speaker 4: We did.

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Speaker 17: We did do some fun stuff. We went to a

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Speaker 17: AGA branch that was a lot of fun, but then

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Speaker 17: we got essentially beaten up at a time massage parlor.

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Speaker 17: It was you know, there's a lot of things going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: there's a lot of things going on in Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at the very least, you know that with Vegas

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Speaker 2: you're always going to get stories, You're always going to

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Speaker 2: eat a canteen time. From from a comedian's perspective, am

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Speaker 2: I right in thinking that hot Diggity Dog got you

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Speaker 2: in trouble with the advertising people in the UK because

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Speaker 2: apparently you were advertising junk food.

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Speaker 17: Yes, so the poster is me messily eating a hot dog.

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Speaker 17: I'll be honest. That's where the title of the show

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Speaker 17: came from, because I didn't know what I was going

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Speaker 17: to call the show, but I came up with the

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Speaker 17: idea for the poster, and we worked backwards, and then

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Speaker 17: we tried to put up posters on the Tube for

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Speaker 17: my London shows and they bounced it back and said

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Speaker 17: we can't put this up because it's advertising junk food.

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Speaker 17: But I look like an absolute pig while I'm eating it.

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Speaker 17: If anything, it was putting people off junk food. So

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Speaker 17: rather than not advertise it on the Tube, we photoshopped

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Speaker 17: the poster and changed the or to a cucumber and

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00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:11,053
Speaker 17: they put it up. So it's a bizarre poster. It's

864
00:43:11,093 --> 00:43:13,053
Speaker 17: a hot diggity dog and there's a picture of me

865
00:43:13,093 --> 00:43:15,133
Speaker 17: eating a cucumber. But they didn't seem to mind that

866
00:43:15,173 --> 00:43:16,573
Speaker 17: I was now promoting vegetables.

867
00:43:16,613 --> 00:43:18,373
Speaker 2: I feel like there's going to be a real streisand

868
00:43:18,453 --> 00:43:20,613
Speaker 2: effect with that kind of thing, you know, like by

869
00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:23,773
Speaker 2: doing that, they've actually drawn far more attention to your show,

870
00:43:23,813 --> 00:43:25,533
Speaker 2: which now I'm not suggesting with win them, but a

871
00:43:25,573 --> 00:43:27,373
Speaker 2: lot of attention al really, But it's kind of done.

872
00:43:27,413 --> 00:43:28,413
Speaker 2: You a favor in a sense.

873
00:43:29,293 --> 00:43:31,733
Speaker 17: Well, as soon as that happened, Jack, of course, my

874
00:43:31,933 --> 00:43:33,933
Speaker 17: management were all over this, and there was a press

875
00:43:33,973 --> 00:43:36,533
Speaker 17: release out and I was interviewed on the radio for

876
00:43:36,653 --> 00:43:38,973
Speaker 17: Today program, which I would not have been interviewed on

877
00:43:39,613 --> 00:43:41,733
Speaker 17: were that not to have happened. I suddenly, I suddenly

878
00:43:41,733 --> 00:43:43,653
Speaker 17: turned into a newspiece, which is to be honest with

879
00:43:43,693 --> 00:43:45,333
Speaker 17: the dream when you're trying to sell taken will you?

880
00:43:45,453 --> 00:43:47,693
Speaker 2: Were you asked to pass judgment as to whether or

881
00:43:47,733 --> 00:43:52,893
Speaker 2: not advertising drunk food on the tube is a morally

882
00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:53,693
Speaker 2: good or bad thing?

883
00:43:54,613 --> 00:43:56,293
Speaker 17: Of course I was, and I would not be drawn

884
00:43:56,333 --> 00:43:57,973
Speaker 17: on it. I just kept saying where the show was,

885
00:43:59,773 --> 00:44:02,613
Speaker 17: because I don't really have an opinion on that, although

886
00:44:02,693 --> 00:44:05,493
Speaker 17: I think broad in my opinion is yeah, probably advertised

887
00:44:05,533 --> 00:44:08,133
Speaker 17: junk food to young people a little bit less. But

888
00:44:08,933 --> 00:44:11,133
Speaker 17: you know, I wasn't going to just necessarily say that

889
00:44:11,173 --> 00:44:14,293
Speaker 17: it was much better to be a pariah and one

890
00:44:14,293 --> 00:44:16,693
Speaker 17: of these comedians who says, you can't say anything anymore

891
00:44:16,733 --> 00:44:18,333
Speaker 17: that they seem to sell tickets, So why can't I

892
00:44:18,373 --> 00:44:18,973
Speaker 17: be that guy for it?

893
00:44:19,053 --> 00:44:19,253
Speaker 4: Yeah?

894
00:44:19,293 --> 00:44:21,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuir enough to I feel like it comes without

895
00:44:21,973 --> 00:44:24,133
Speaker 2: saying that most of us have been thinking about food

896
00:44:24,133 --> 00:44:27,773
Speaker 2: for most of our lives. But I think for you

897
00:44:27,853 --> 00:44:30,373
Speaker 2: it's kind of it's it's in another it's in another

898
00:44:30,413 --> 00:44:32,453
Speaker 2: straighter sphere. Maybe I don't know, it kind of reaches

899
00:44:32,453 --> 00:44:35,133
Speaker 2: another demention or something, right, because there are all these

900
00:44:35,173 --> 00:44:37,453
Speaker 2: ways in which kind of food is this kind of

901
00:44:37,453 --> 00:44:40,733
Speaker 2: little patina in your life. And you know, hot diggity

902
00:44:40,773 --> 00:44:46,173
Speaker 2: Dog in your cucumber hot dog experience on the tube

903
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:48,453
Speaker 2: is only as only the latest. How do you how

904
00:44:48,453 --> 00:44:52,213
Speaker 2: do you kind of think about the role that food

905
00:44:52,293 --> 00:44:55,213
Speaker 2: plays in your in your life more broadly outside of

906
00:44:55,293 --> 00:44:55,933
Speaker 2: just nourishing you.

907
00:44:57,533 --> 00:45:00,973
Speaker 17: Well, I mean I think about food probably I'd say

908
00:45:01,053 --> 00:45:02,933
Speaker 17: like eighty percent of the day if I'm not if

909
00:45:02,973 --> 00:45:05,093
Speaker 17: I'm not eating food, I'm thinking about the next thing

910
00:45:05,133 --> 00:45:07,613
Speaker 17: I Am going to eat, and getting excited about restaurants

911
00:45:07,613 --> 00:45:10,453
Speaker 17: and what I'm going to cook, and you know, coming

912
00:45:10,533 --> 00:45:12,853
Speaker 17: up with the recipes and reading cookbooks and doing all

913
00:45:12,893 --> 00:45:14,933
Speaker 17: of this stuff. So I spend a long time thinking

914
00:45:14,973 --> 00:45:16,613
Speaker 17: about it. I get a lot of joy from food.

915
00:45:17,333 --> 00:45:19,653
Speaker 17: Food is one of the things that I know will

916
00:45:19,653 --> 00:45:23,053
Speaker 17: always offer me joy, and I managed to parry that

917
00:45:23,093 --> 00:45:25,413
Speaker 17: into a career as well. I mean, I do a

918
00:45:25,413 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 17: food podcast. I'm a judge on a FOD show. I've

919
00:45:27,133 --> 00:45:29,853
Speaker 17: written a food book. There's that people. People seem to

920
00:45:29,893 --> 00:45:32,213
Speaker 17: enjoy it when I talk about food, and I enjoy

921
00:45:32,253 --> 00:45:34,253
Speaker 17: talking about food as much as I enjoy eating it.

922
00:45:34,293 --> 00:45:35,453
Speaker 17: So it's worked out pretty well.

923
00:45:35,973 --> 00:45:37,653
Speaker 2: Going back to Vegas in did you do one of

924
00:45:37,693 --> 00:45:41,133
Speaker 2: those horrible all you can eat things? I know you're Tiwan,

925
00:45:41,253 --> 00:45:43,453
Speaker 2: so I don't. It would just mean a whole lot

926
00:45:43,493 --> 00:45:45,973
Speaker 2: of insulin. I presume, yes, exactly.

927
00:45:46,013 --> 00:45:47,653
Speaker 17: I mean the whole trip to America meant a whole

928
00:45:47,693 --> 00:45:50,813
Speaker 17: lot of insulin, to be honest. But I've become as

929
00:45:50,853 --> 00:45:53,573
Speaker 17: a proper foodie and also Type one diabetic. I've become

930
00:45:53,613 --> 00:45:56,893
Speaker 17: a bit of a bit of an expert on on

931
00:45:56,893 --> 00:46:00,253
Speaker 17: on insulin doses. I'm pretty it's one of my true

932
00:46:00,333 --> 00:46:02,973
Speaker 17: pure skills is looking at a bit of food and

933
00:46:02,973 --> 00:46:04,773
Speaker 17: working out how much insulin I need to give. We

934
00:46:04,813 --> 00:46:06,773
Speaker 17: did do a buffet. We did the Weir in the

935
00:46:06,813 --> 00:46:09,573
Speaker 17: Win Hotel buffet, which I think is one of the

936
00:46:09,653 --> 00:46:12,613
Speaker 17: higher end ones. So me and my wife went in

937
00:46:12,613 --> 00:46:15,853
Speaker 17: there with almost a spreadsheet of the order of things

938
00:46:15,893 --> 00:46:18,373
Speaker 17: we needed to do. So it was, you know, screaming

939
00:46:18,413 --> 00:46:20,693
Speaker 17: high quality proteins at each other when we first went

940
00:46:20,733 --> 00:46:22,493
Speaker 17: in just being like, hit up the prime rib and

941
00:46:22,533 --> 00:46:25,933
Speaker 17: the lobster and the prawns straight away, and then if

942
00:46:25,933 --> 00:46:28,693
Speaker 17: there's room move on to some of the lower grade carbs.

943
00:46:28,893 --> 00:46:30,613
Speaker 2: Was it a pleasurable experience?

944
00:46:32,373 --> 00:46:35,853
Speaker 17: Uh not by the end, I'd say I'd say maybe

945
00:46:35,893 --> 00:46:39,213
Speaker 17: the first two plates definite pleasure because it's quite good stuff.

946
00:46:40,373 --> 00:46:42,613
Speaker 17: But you know, when you're getting towards the sort of

947
00:46:43,213 --> 00:46:45,653
Speaker 17: the back end of the buffet plate eight or nine,

948
00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:48,453
Speaker 17: you're very much doing it out of a sense of duty.

949
00:46:48,653 --> 00:46:51,973
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. The classic thing is that you sort

950
00:46:51,973 --> 00:46:54,493
Speaker 2: of think I've got to get my money's worth. There's

951
00:46:54,533 --> 00:46:57,613
Speaker 2: some sort of weird primal switch that happens, right You're like, yeah,

952
00:46:57,653 --> 00:47:01,213
Speaker 2: hang on, I can nourish myself obscenely, so I don't

953
00:47:01,253 --> 00:47:03,693
Speaker 2: need any more, you know, energy for the next three days.

954
00:47:04,493 --> 00:47:04,773
Speaker 4: Yeah.

955
00:47:04,813 --> 00:47:09,133
Speaker 2: Anyway, So you mentioned the podcast, and I mean, you

956
00:47:09,613 --> 00:47:14,053
Speaker 2: and James A. Kester have just had so much you know,

957
00:47:14,173 --> 00:47:16,453
Speaker 2: love and iteration for what you guys have achieved over

958
00:47:16,493 --> 00:47:18,493
Speaker 2: the last few years. And the podcast is brilliant. It's

959
00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:20,213
Speaker 2: such a kind of simple concept in a way, and

960
00:47:20,333 --> 00:47:24,373
Speaker 2: yet through talking to people about food you sort of

961
00:47:24,413 --> 00:47:27,453
Speaker 2: get a kind of it's like a leans into their

962
00:47:27,493 --> 00:47:30,933
Speaker 2: life in a strange way. So for people who haven't

963
00:47:30,933 --> 00:47:34,093
Speaker 2: heard the podcast, basically you ask them to describe a

964
00:47:34,173 --> 00:47:36,333
Speaker 2: menu and they can come in and they can talk

965
00:47:36,333 --> 00:47:38,613
Speaker 2: about a sideplate, they can talk about a main, a dessert,

966
00:47:38,653 --> 00:47:41,253
Speaker 2: all that kind of thing. What has been the most

967
00:47:41,493 --> 00:47:44,253
Speaker 2: alarming answer that you have received and off menu over

968
00:47:44,253 --> 00:47:45,693
Speaker 2: the last few years.

969
00:47:45,733 --> 00:47:49,253
Speaker 17: We've had some pretty alarming ones, I'll be honest. The

970
00:47:49,293 --> 00:47:51,813
Speaker 17: first bad one we had so it stands up as

971
00:47:51,853 --> 00:47:54,893
Speaker 17: a bit of an icon, is the comedian Joel Domit,

972
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:59,533
Speaker 17: who is a very healthy boy. He's in incredible shape,

973
00:47:59,853 --> 00:48:02,133
Speaker 17: but the way he eats is just so weird, and

974
00:48:02,173 --> 00:48:05,773
Speaker 17: he he the main issue with his was his dream

975
00:48:05,853 --> 00:48:10,453
Speaker 17: drink was a strawberry protein shake, which is so unacceptable.

976
00:48:10,493 --> 00:48:13,213
Speaker 17: I mean, you know, in the years of speaking to

977
00:48:13,253 --> 00:48:14,893
Speaker 17: him now and again, I have delved into the world

978
00:48:14,973 --> 00:48:17,693
Speaker 17: of protein shakes. You know, you get older, you start

979
00:48:17,733 --> 00:48:20,453
Speaker 17: trying to work out a bit and work out your

980
00:48:20,453 --> 00:48:22,853
Speaker 17: macros and things. But that is no one's dream drink

981
00:48:22,893 --> 00:48:26,533
Speaker 17: that should be that. But he genuinely he loves strawberry

982
00:48:26,533 --> 00:48:29,533
Speaker 17: protein shake. It just feels that was pretty fair.

983
00:48:29,773 --> 00:48:33,133
Speaker 2: If you're drinking a strawberry protein shake, call me off fishing,

984
00:48:33,173 --> 00:48:35,213
Speaker 2: but I just like, I like food and drink to

985
00:48:35,253 --> 00:48:36,893
Speaker 2: actually be food and drink. And if you're drinking a

986
00:48:36,933 --> 00:48:40,213
Speaker 2: protein shake, it's the ingredient to numbers, you know. And

987
00:48:40,533 --> 00:48:43,173
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this sort of incredibly artificial.

988
00:48:44,293 --> 00:48:46,573
Speaker 17: Yes, it wasn't it wasn't a great choice. But he's

989
00:48:46,613 --> 00:48:49,613
Speaker 17: been he's been rightly hauled over the coals for it

990
00:48:49,653 --> 00:48:52,533
Speaker 17: so many times, and I think now it must be

991
00:48:52,533 --> 00:48:55,333
Speaker 17: five years later, and I think people still shout him.

992
00:48:55,293 --> 00:48:57,173
Speaker 2: And radio interview is a cost of world. People are

993
00:48:57,213 --> 00:49:01,733
Speaker 2: still criticizing him for the call. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

994
00:49:02,133 --> 00:49:05,893
Speaker 2: I once upon a time went through the online dating

995
00:49:05,973 --> 00:49:11,053
Speaker 2: thing and prided myself on trying to in these dating

996
00:49:11,093 --> 00:49:15,453
Speaker 2: situations throw questions at various dates, just just because I

997
00:49:15,453 --> 00:49:17,653
Speaker 2: thought you'd get a bit of an insight into their persona.

998
00:49:17,773 --> 00:49:20,813
Speaker 2: And one that I always asked was, if you could

999
00:49:20,853 --> 00:49:23,453
Speaker 2: only have one cuisine for the rest of your life,

1000
00:49:23,733 --> 00:49:26,413
Speaker 2: so it's not just one dish, but one cuisine every day,

1001
00:49:26,493 --> 00:49:28,173
Speaker 2: every meal for the rest of your life, what would

1002
00:49:28,173 --> 00:49:31,053
Speaker 2: you go with. And it's not necessarily that there is

1003
00:49:31,053 --> 00:49:33,853
Speaker 2: a wrong answer, but you need to I always thought

1004
00:49:33,893 --> 00:49:35,533
Speaker 2: you need to be able to give a kind of

1005
00:49:35,653 --> 00:49:39,253
Speaker 2: strong justification as to why you chose that cuisine. Is

1006
00:49:39,253 --> 00:49:41,253
Speaker 2: there anything like off the top of your head that

1007
00:49:41,453 --> 00:49:43,933
Speaker 2: would that you would choose if there was one cuisine.

1008
00:49:44,693 --> 00:49:47,533
Speaker 17: I think you need to I mean, I'm not professing

1009
00:49:47,533 --> 00:49:50,053
Speaker 17: to know everything about every cuisine and all the things

1010
00:49:50,053 --> 00:49:52,333
Speaker 17: they offer across the world, but I think you need

1011
00:49:52,373 --> 00:49:56,693
Speaker 17: to select something that sometimes you can eat light and

1012
00:49:56,733 --> 00:49:58,853
Speaker 17: it's delicious, and then sometimes if you really want to

1013
00:49:58,893 --> 00:50:00,493
Speaker 17: go for it, you can you can find stuff to

1014
00:50:00,533 --> 00:50:02,333
Speaker 17: do that as well. And I think for me, it

1015
00:50:02,373 --> 00:50:05,893
Speaker 17: would probably be Japanese food because there's so many. There's

1016
00:50:05,893 --> 00:50:08,813
Speaker 17: so many that are fresh and light and delicious and

1017
00:50:08,893 --> 00:50:12,933
Speaker 17: high quality and amazing. But then also you can absolutely

1018
00:50:12,973 --> 00:50:14,813
Speaker 17: go for it. If you've ever been to Japan and

1019
00:50:14,933 --> 00:50:16,973
Speaker 17: gone into like you know, Tokyo late at night, you

1020
00:50:16,973 --> 00:50:18,853
Speaker 17: can just get fried chicken and you can get all

1021
00:50:18,893 --> 00:50:21,533
Speaker 17: this amazing, amazing stuff. So I think it would have

1022
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:24,053
Speaker 17: to be It would have to be Japanese food for me.

1023
00:50:24,573 --> 00:50:24,813
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1024
00:50:24,853 --> 00:50:27,453
Speaker 2: Someone said to me, and I'm not joking, someone said

1025
00:50:27,453 --> 00:50:31,373
Speaker 2: to me English food and I was like, hmmm, And

1026
00:50:31,413 --> 00:50:33,213
Speaker 2: I said to them beforehand and I was like, there's

1027
00:50:33,253 --> 00:50:36,493
Speaker 2: no wrong answer, but you.

1028
00:50:36,493 --> 00:50:37,213
Speaker 13: Know, but.

1029
00:50:39,133 --> 00:50:41,733
Speaker 17: Look, we have we have some wonderful foods and wonderful

1030
00:50:41,773 --> 00:50:45,213
Speaker 17: traditional dishes. They are they are all. They are all

1031
00:50:45,213 --> 00:50:48,413
Speaker 17: dishes built for the dead of winter and working down

1032
00:50:48,453 --> 00:50:51,053
Speaker 17: a coal mine. And I just I think they all

1033
00:50:51,093 --> 00:50:54,013
Speaker 17: they're all stick to your ribs stuff. We have some

1034
00:50:54,053 --> 00:50:57,093
Speaker 17: incredible restaurants, but I think what we do very well

1035
00:50:57,173 --> 00:51:02,293
Speaker 17: here in the culinary scene is absorbing other cultures as well.

1036
00:51:02,613 --> 00:51:04,973
Speaker 17: So we've got some fantastic restaurants, but there aren't many

1037
00:51:05,013 --> 00:51:07,373
Speaker 17: that I would consider to be purely British food.

1038
00:51:07,573 --> 00:51:10,893
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, how do you find the sort of British

1039
00:51:10,933 --> 00:51:13,093
Speaker 2: sense of humor? And I know that it's a pretty broad,

1040
00:51:14,653 --> 00:51:17,373
Speaker 2: all encompassing term, but how do you find it translates

1041
00:51:17,373 --> 00:51:19,333
Speaker 2: to New Zealand and Australia because of the kind of

1042
00:51:19,413 --> 00:51:21,293
Speaker 2: you know, the sort of a cultural connection there.

1043
00:51:22,253 --> 00:51:24,733
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think we've got enough sort of shared cultural

1044
00:51:24,773 --> 00:51:30,573
Speaker 17: stuff and enough shared references that it actually translates incredibly well.

1045
00:51:31,933 --> 00:51:34,773
Speaker 17: I mean, like with so many British comics come to

1046
00:51:34,813 --> 00:51:38,253
Speaker 17: New Zealand and Australia, and likewise we get so many

1047
00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:40,773
Speaker 17: Kiwi and Australian comics come over, and it just it

1048
00:51:40,933 --> 00:51:43,853
Speaker 17: just seems to click. It works really nicely. But yeah,

1049
00:51:43,933 --> 00:51:46,733
Speaker 17: like you say, there's no specific one type of British humor,

1050
00:51:46,853 --> 00:51:49,293
Speaker 17: just just as there isn't in New Zealand and Australia.

1051
00:51:49,333 --> 00:51:51,133
Speaker 17: Although I would argue that I think the New Zealand

1052
00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:53,493
Speaker 17: censer of humor is more distinctive than both of those

1053
00:51:53,533 --> 00:51:53,973
Speaker 17: two things.

1054
00:51:54,013 --> 00:51:56,733
Speaker 2: Really interesting, Yeah, I think so.

1055
00:51:56,773 --> 00:52:00,093
Speaker 17: I think I have an idea of what New Zealand

1056
00:52:00,173 --> 00:52:02,373
Speaker 17: humor is in my head. I've got more of a

1057
00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:04,933
Speaker 17: set idea, and it's more, you know, it's more laid back,

1058
00:52:04,973 --> 00:52:07,693
Speaker 17: it's more offbeat, it's slightly more surreal, but in a

1059
00:52:07,733 --> 00:52:10,493
Speaker 17: self deprecating way. And I think that's why that's why

1060
00:52:10,573 --> 00:52:12,613
Speaker 17: the UK enjoys New Zealand camera as well.

1061
00:52:12,733 --> 00:52:13,053
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1062
00:52:13,093 --> 00:52:16,173
Speaker 2: Hey, finally, then, how do you personally find it giving

1063
00:52:16,213 --> 00:52:17,573
Speaker 2: you a lot of the work you do as sort

1064
00:52:17,613 --> 00:52:19,853
Speaker 2: of collaborative stuff, whether it's with James or whether it's

1065
00:52:19,893 --> 00:52:21,533
Speaker 2: on the panel shows and that kind of thing in

1066
00:52:21,573 --> 00:52:26,093
Speaker 2: the UK, How do you personally compare the experience and

1067
00:52:26,133 --> 00:52:29,173
Speaker 2: thrill of writing and then performing a live show solo.

1068
00:52:30,813 --> 00:52:31,253
Speaker 4: I love it.

1069
00:52:31,293 --> 00:52:33,693
Speaker 17: I mean I love I love being the only one

1070
00:52:33,693 --> 00:52:35,733
Speaker 17: who's put it together and the only one who shaped it,

1071
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:39,213
Speaker 17: and you get you get a huge amount of pride,

1072
00:52:39,333 --> 00:52:41,293
Speaker 17: especially being able to fly to different countries and do

1073
00:52:41,373 --> 00:52:44,253
Speaker 17: it whilst you know, doing it alone, and I love

1074
00:52:44,653 --> 00:52:47,293
Speaker 17: collaborating as well, like we've done some off MANU live

1075
00:52:47,333 --> 00:52:49,693
Speaker 17: shows recently and being on stage with James and messing

1076
00:52:49,733 --> 00:52:52,293
Speaker 17: around and you know, getting big loves out of those

1077
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Speaker 17: audiences is an incredible feeling. But you do sort of

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00:52:54,413 --> 00:52:57,253
Speaker 17: feel like you're getting away with it, whereas when when

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00:52:57,253 --> 00:52:59,493
Speaker 17: you've written, when you've written stand up and you're performing

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00:52:59,533 --> 00:53:01,413
Speaker 17: it in front of people, you're like, Okay, I feel

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Speaker 17: like I've worked for this and I've probably earned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I was so excited to have you here.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, fantastic that you're making your way to New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: All the very best with Hot Diggity Dog and we

1085
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Speaker 2: will see your own can't wait.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Jack.

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Speaker 2: That is Ed Gamble. All the details for Hot Diggity

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Speaker 2: Dog will be up at newstalk zb dot co dial

1089
00:53:20,653 --> 00:53:24,133
Speaker 2: in zed Ford slash Jack, alongside everything else from our show.

1090
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Speaker 2: So before eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to tell

1091
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Speaker 2: you about this new rule in the EU regarding cell

1092
00:53:29,413 --> 00:53:34,573
Speaker 2: phones and bits of like electronic equipment. So you know

1093
00:53:34,573 --> 00:53:37,213
Speaker 2: how the EU is kind of like cracks down or

1094
00:53:37,253 --> 00:53:39,293
Speaker 2: tries to crack down on technology a bit more so.

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00:53:39,333 --> 00:53:41,653
Speaker 2: They were the ones who said, for example, that iPhones

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00:53:41,693 --> 00:53:44,893
Speaker 2: had to have the same charging cables as the phones

1097
00:53:44,973 --> 00:53:48,413
Speaker 2: that are used by you know, Android platforms. Well, now

1098
00:53:48,413 --> 00:53:50,333
Speaker 2: they've come up with a new rule that means that

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00:53:50,533 --> 00:53:53,733
Speaker 2: all new bits of electronic kit are going to have

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Speaker 2: a sticker on them that says how long their battery lasts.

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00:53:57,853 --> 00:54:00,013
Speaker 2: So when you go to look at a new phone,

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00:54:00,053 --> 00:54:02,053
Speaker 2: for example, you'll be able to look at different phones.

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00:54:02,053 --> 00:54:04,533
Speaker 2: You'd be okay, you have a standardized MESA, you'll be

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Speaker 2: able to say, right, this phone should have a battery

1105
00:54:06,773 --> 00:54:08,893
Speaker 2: that lasts for twenty one hours, this phone should have

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Speaker 2: a battery that lasts for twenty three hours. And that

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Speaker 2: might influence which product you decide to buy. So we're

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Speaker 2: going to tell you a little bit more about that

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Speaker 2: system very shortly. Right now, it is twenty two past

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Speaker 2: ten your screen time picks for this weekend.

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00:54:22,133 --> 00:54:26,173
Speaker 1: Next start your weekend off in style. Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 1: Jack Taine and vp it dot code on inst for

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00:54:29,453 --> 00:54:30,693
Speaker 1: high quality supplements.

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Speaker 4: News Talk said b.

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Speaker 2: It is twenty five minutes past ten on your Saturday morning.

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00:54:35,613 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 2: If you're feeling like one of those weekends where you

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00:54:37,413 --> 00:54:40,933
Speaker 2: just go on the couch. Good News. Tara Reward, our

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Speaker 2: screen time expert, has three shows to watch your stream

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Speaker 2: at home that she's going to recommend for us this morning.

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Speaker 2: Hey Tara, good morning. Okay, let's kick things off with

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Speaker 2: the show streaming on Prime Video. Tell us about Mobland.

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00:54:55,533 --> 00:54:58,533
Speaker 12: Yeah, last week I talked about a Guy Ritchie documentary

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Speaker 12: series about a group of London gangsters, and this week

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00:55:01,413 --> 00:55:05,653
Speaker 12: we've got a Guy Ritchie drama series about some London gangsters.

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Speaker 12: This is Mobland. It stars Tom Hardy, Pierce Brosnan and

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Speaker 12: Helen and Maren and it's pretty much what it says

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00:55:11,533 --> 00:55:14,453
Speaker 12: on the tin. This is a crime series about two

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Speaker 12: warring mob crime families in London, the Harrigans and the Stevensons.

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Speaker 12: And it's about the power struggle between the two families

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Speaker 12: which is escalating as they try to control crime and

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Speaker 12: profits in the city. And in the middle of it

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Speaker 12: all is Harry who's played by Tom Hardy, who's great

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Speaker 12: in this. Harry is a fixer. He does all the

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Speaker 12: dirty work. He knows everyone and he has to do

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Speaker 12: some pretty questionable things to keep his employers. The Harrigans

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Speaker 12: Happy and this is a great little watch. It's gritty,

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00:55:41,933 --> 00:55:45,093
Speaker 12: it's smart, it's a little bit violent, but brilliant cast.

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Speaker 12: Helen Mirren and Pierce Brosnan play the mob boss married couple.

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Speaker 12: They're quite scary together. Patty Considine and Joan Froge are

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00:55:51,893 --> 00:55:54,013
Speaker 12: in this too. It feels a bit like the show

1141
00:55:54,053 --> 00:55:56,453
Speaker 12: Gangs of London, but it's not as heavy or as slow.

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Speaker 12: It's exactly what you would expect from a guy Ritchie

1143
00:55:59,293 --> 00:56:02,133
Speaker 12: Tom Hardy crime drum and nothing more. You know, big energy,

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Speaker 12: lots of dodgy blokes and just a very entertaining series.

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Speaker 2: Nice okay, cool, that's mob Land. So that's on Prime video.

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Speaker 2: Also on Prime video Ittoi Yeah, this is.

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00:56:12,413 --> 00:56:15,573
Speaker 12: A new comedy drama that's just landed this week. It's

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00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:19,653
Speaker 12: made by Amy Sherman Palladino and Daniel Palladino, who are

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00:56:19,653 --> 00:56:22,413
Speaker 12: probably most famous for making shows like The Gilmore Girls

1150
00:56:22,453 --> 00:56:24,973
Speaker 12: and The Marvelous Missus Masel and the new show is

1151
00:56:25,013 --> 00:56:27,253
Speaker 12: something a little different. It's set in the world of

1152
00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:30,533
Speaker 12: ballet and it's about two prestigious dance companies in New

1153
00:56:30,613 --> 00:56:35,133
Speaker 12: York and Paris who both struggling to survive financially, and

1154
00:56:35,173 --> 00:56:38,093
Speaker 12: so the artistic directors come up with this idea to

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Speaker 12: swap the major dance stars in each company between Paris

1156
00:56:42,053 --> 00:56:44,853
Speaker 12: and New York and the hope that will revitalize things

1157
00:56:44,933 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 12: and be a drawer card for new audiences. And so

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00:56:47,293 --> 00:56:50,933
Speaker 12: it becomes your classic fish out of water scenario. Lots

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Speaker 12: of egos, lots of personalities, and a little bit of

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Speaker 12: dance as well. And if you've watched Gilmore Girls or

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Speaker 12: Marvelous Missus Masel, you know those dramas have that fast dialogue,

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00:57:01,093 --> 00:57:03,893
Speaker 12: that witty banter, lots of humor, and that show has

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00:57:03,893 --> 00:57:05,693
Speaker 12: the same kind of feeling to it. It's not quite

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00:57:05,733 --> 00:57:08,613
Speaker 12: as strong here, not quite as quirky, to be fair,

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Speaker 12: I think the first episode is fleshing out a lot

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Speaker 12: of things, so hopefully it will find it stride as

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Speaker 12: it goes on. But if you are a fan of

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Speaker 12: Gilmore Girls, or if you love a bit of dance,

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Speaker 12: this is light and easy to watch and something not

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Speaker 12: too serious for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Right, Okay?

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 2: And on Netflix, Ransom Canyon.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is the number one TV show on Netflix

1175
00:57:28,213 --> 00:57:30,013
Speaker 12: and New Zealand at the moment, so lots of us

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Speaker 12: are watching Ransom Canyon and it's an American family drama

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00:57:33,933 --> 00:57:36,973
Speaker 12: that's kind of a cross between Virgin River and Friday

1178
00:57:37,053 --> 00:57:40,413
Speaker 12: Night Lights. It's set in Texas. It stars Josh Jumel,

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00:57:40,733 --> 00:57:44,013
Speaker 12: and it's about three families who farm on these massive

1180
00:57:44,853 --> 00:57:49,013
Speaker 12: ranches across the sweeping Texan countryside, and it's about how

1181
00:57:49,053 --> 00:57:52,373
Speaker 12: their lives cross over, their relationships and their friendships and

1182
00:57:52,413 --> 00:57:54,693
Speaker 12: their feelings. And there are a lot of feelings in

1183
00:57:54,733 --> 00:57:57,333
Speaker 12: the show. There's a lot of grief and lost loves,

1184
00:57:57,693 --> 00:58:02,613
Speaker 12: lots of sad cowboys. It's a Western soap opera effectively.

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Speaker 12: But I can see why lots of people are watching it.

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00:58:04,853 --> 00:58:08,493
Speaker 12: It's escapism. It's soft and romantic and a little bit cheesy,

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Speaker 12: or a lot cheesy, but it's comet for TV, and

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Speaker 12: I think a lots of us are turning to that

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Speaker 12: at the moment. There's lots to be said for a

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Speaker 12: show that is predictable and safe and you know it

1191
00:58:18,093 --> 00:58:19,893
Speaker 12: might not be perfect, but you can just step into

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Speaker 12: it for a couple of hours and and forget the rest.

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Speaker 2: This is a bit of escapeism, isn't it, Tara, Nothing

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Speaker 2: wrong with that from time to time. So that's a

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Speaker 2: Ransom Canyon. Hey, there's one you've left off the list

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Speaker 2: this week, so I'm just gonna have to addit. New

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Speaker 2: season of Grand Designs New Zealand. I just go wrong.

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Speaker 2: I love Grand Designs. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 2: I just well, yeah, I just yeah. It's fantastic. So

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Speaker 2: a new season of that kicks off tomorrow evening on

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Speaker 2: TV and Z one. I think seven thirty. It'll be

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Speaker 2: on TV and Z plus as well, So I can't

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Speaker 2: wait for that. Hey, thank you so much. Have a

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Speaker 2: great weekend, and we will put those recommendations online. Of course,

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Speaker 2: those shows once again on Prime video mob Land, that's

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00:58:57,733 --> 00:59:01,453
Speaker 2: the Guy Ritchie drama Ittoil is the one about the

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00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:05,333
Speaker 2: dancers from the from What Paris and New York was

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Speaker 2: it going into Popping around It? And Ransom Canyon is

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Speaker 2: the show streaming on Netflix right now. It is ten thirty.

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Speaker 1: Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team

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Speaker 1: on News TALKSB make up your.

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00:59:28,813 --> 00:59:40,173
Speaker 16: Mind, Sime.

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00:59:41,893 --> 00:59:43,613
Speaker 12: I can kill be Cad.

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Speaker 2: Oh how good do you hear that? It's kind of

1215
00:59:48,173 --> 00:59:51,613
Speaker 2: a little blend of emotion, a bit of finesse, a

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Speaker 2: bit of aggression in there. This is Samantha Fish. She's

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Speaker 2: a guitarist, the songwriter, a vocalist, blending all sorts of

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Speaker 2: genres so rock, country, funk, and bluegrass. She kind of

1219
01:00:01,453 --> 01:00:03,733
Speaker 2: covers all the bases. Anyway. She's got a brand new

1220
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Speaker 2: album out. The album is called paper Doll, which is

1221
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Speaker 2: the culmination of years of commitment to the music scene.

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Speaker 2: She has really created some incredible work, but has kind

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Speaker 2: of floated around relatively under the radar so far in

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Speaker 2: her career. In fact, would you believe until this week,

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Speaker 2: I'd never heard of her, I know, shocking for someone

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Speaker 2: who's usually so patched him with all the current trends. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I love what I've heard so far, and so we're

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Speaker 2: going to make sure we have a little bit more

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Speaker 2: of a listen. She actually she opened for the Rolling

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Speaker 2: Stones this year, which kind of was a bit of

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Speaker 2: a breakthrough for her. Now our music reviewer Atestelle Clifford

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Speaker 2: has jumped into this album this week, so she's going

1233
01:00:36,173 --> 01:00:38,733
Speaker 2: to join us before midday. We'll play a couple of

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01:00:38,733 --> 01:00:40,653
Speaker 2: tracks and you can make up your own mind on

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Speaker 2: Samantha Fish. Before eleven o'clock, we are in the garden

1236
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Speaker 2: and we're going to take a look at Dingy Fever

1237
01:00:46,413 --> 01:00:48,773
Speaker 2: and the risk that it can actually present in this

1238
01:00:48,893 --> 01:00:50,893
Speaker 2: part of the world or in the wider kind of

1239
01:00:50,893 --> 01:00:54,573
Speaker 2: South Pacific region. Next up, though, our texperts in twenty

1240
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Speaker 2: five to eleven, putting the.

1241
01:00:57,173 --> 01:01:01,173
Speaker 1: Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

1242
01:01:00,653 --> 01:01:02,813
Speaker 8: It has the trunk to blink. It's later spreads to

1243
01:01:02,893 --> 01:01:05,013
Speaker 8: China and tariff appears to be he's going to back down.

1244
01:01:05,053 --> 01:01:07,293
Speaker 8: No hall see can use the former advisor to send

1245
01:01:07,333 --> 01:01:09,773
Speaker 8: us to John mccainey's with the American Action Forum these days.

1246
01:01:09,813 --> 01:01:12,213
Speaker 8: What's your sense of this whole terrorff thing.

1247
01:01:12,493 --> 01:01:15,173
Speaker 11: I think it's been a real problem for the US

1248
01:01:15,173 --> 01:01:16,573
Speaker 11: and the global economy in general.

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Speaker 8: Would you say Trump has blinked in the last twenty

1250
01:01:18,893 --> 01:01:20,733
Speaker 8: four hours? Is this is what the comments about China's

1251
01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:21,173
Speaker 8: really about.

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Speaker 11: It's absolutely true that the president never as he made

1253
01:01:24,573 --> 01:01:26,653
Speaker 11: a mistake, but he does respond to pressure, and we've

1254
01:01:26,653 --> 01:01:28,413
Speaker 11: seen him respond to that pressure in the past week.

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Speaker 8: So what happens now?

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01:01:29,613 --> 01:01:30,373
Speaker 9: I think the.

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Speaker 11: Reciprocal teriffs go away under the guys of negotiations with

1258
01:01:33,733 --> 01:01:34,973
Speaker 11: these country or something like that.

1259
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Speaker 8: Back Monday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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01:01:38,733 --> 01:01:40,613
Speaker 8: a Vita News Talk zib.

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Speaker 2: Hey thank you for your text and emails this morning.

1262
01:01:43,173 --> 01:01:46,613
Speaker 2: So I started off the show by reflecting on the

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01:01:46,733 --> 01:01:48,893
Speaker 2: last two and a half years or so, well two

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01:01:48,893 --> 01:01:50,933
Speaker 2: and a bit years in our household of being a

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Speaker 2: one household car. So at the start of twenty twenty three,

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01:01:54,173 --> 01:01:56,373
Speaker 2: my now wife and I decided that we would get

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Speaker 2: rid of one of the cars. She and oldunga and

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01:01:58,653 --> 01:02:00,293
Speaker 2: just kind of needed to go. And we thought, we're

1269
01:02:00,333 --> 01:02:01,853
Speaker 2: not going to replace that. We'll see how we go

1270
01:02:01,933 --> 01:02:04,293
Speaker 2: with one car. And we thought in theory it would

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01:02:04,333 --> 01:02:07,453
Speaker 2: be possible. It might, you know, need require a bit

1272
01:02:07,453 --> 01:02:09,773
Speaker 2: of coordination and that kind of thing, if he sacrifices

1273
01:02:09,813 --> 01:02:11,693
Speaker 2: here and there. But honestly, it's just been so much

1274
01:02:11,693 --> 01:02:13,813
Speaker 2: easier than I even thought. Now. I'm not saying it's

1275
01:02:13,813 --> 01:02:16,093
Speaker 2: going to be perfect for everyone, not saying that, but

1276
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Speaker 2: for us at the very least, going to a one

1277
01:02:18,613 --> 01:02:20,973
Speaker 2: car household has been a kind of dream, And a

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Speaker 2: big part of it is cycling. Jack on the text machine,

1279
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Speaker 2: I love your love of cycling. I, like you and

1280
01:02:26,533 --> 01:02:29,093
Speaker 2: most other cyclists, drive a car as well, and therefore

1281
01:02:29,133 --> 01:02:31,973
Speaker 2: do contribute to the cost of roding through various taxes, etc.

1282
01:02:32,933 --> 01:02:35,093
Speaker 2: I commute during the week on my bike and absolutely

1283
01:02:35,093 --> 01:02:37,413
Speaker 2: love that part of my day. The issue, though, is

1284
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Speaker 2: the danger that exists from attitudes of other New Zealanders

1285
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Speaker 2: in their cars. Once they get behind the wheel of

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Speaker 2: the car, they get aggressive all of a sudden. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I definitely notice that, and I sort of

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Speaker 2: feel like when I'm cycling, I just have to have

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Speaker 2: eyes in the back of my head, Like I really

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Speaker 2: feel like I need to have eyes everywhere the whole time,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it can be kind of an intimidating thing.

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Speaker 2: I actually I've always ridden the bike, so even you know,

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Speaker 2: when I was in high school, ways to ride my

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01:03:01,933 --> 01:03:04,133
Speaker 2: bike all the time to school, and so I've never

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01:03:04,173 --> 01:03:07,013
Speaker 2: really stopped, which I think helps you kind of have

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01:03:07,493 --> 01:03:10,693
Speaker 2: a good sense of you know, we are traffickers most

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Speaker 2: of the time, but there's still stuff that happens to

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Speaker 2: me on the road where I'm giving I'm really given

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Speaker 2: a terrible fright and I'm like, my goodness, But for

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Speaker 2: you know, thirty centimeters there, that could have been a

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Speaker 2: really serious accident. So I agree with that point ninety

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Speaker 2: two ninety two. If you want to send us a

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Speaker 2: message this morning, right now, it's twenty two minutes to

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Speaker 2: eleven in our textbook. Paul sten House is here with

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Speaker 2: us this morning, and when I say here, he is

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01:03:33,333 --> 01:03:36,133
Speaker 2: kind of here because although Paul is usually based in

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Speaker 2: New York City, he is home on Uncle Judy at

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Speaker 2: the moment. How's it been back, Paul.

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Speaker 13: It's been great, Jack. I'm here visiting New Zealand's Cutest

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Speaker 13: five months old. Ah, and he definitely has that title,

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Speaker 13: and I'm not biased about it.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, no biased there whatsoever, just so long as

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Speaker 2: he's not competing with the New Zealand's Cutest two months old.

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Speaker 13: Because okay, see that was why I didn't say New

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01:03:56,293 --> 01:03:58,933
Speaker 13: Zealand's you know, New Zealand that you refine that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 13: I thought i'd better, Yeah, I thought I better.

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Speaker 2: How good is Uncle Judy? A just all no responsibility.

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Speaker 2: It's just so good to be able to like swing

1320
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Speaker 2: and have some fun, get some smiles, you know, then

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Speaker 2: hand them and.

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Speaker 13: It's so it's so fun. You know, my sister so

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01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:16,133
Speaker 13: she's over from Melbourne. It's the it's the full the

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Speaker 13: full steinhouse household, bajackets a lot.

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Speaker 2: I beat your pars loving it, Paul.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, as everybody. And now, but the thing that's

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Speaker 13: so interesting, as my sistory says that, oh he's got

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Speaker 13: a new trick today, and it's so crazy it changes

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01:04:30,293 --> 01:04:30,813
Speaker 13: by the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I know it is. Hey. Anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's talk tech because it's also changing pretty quickly at

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Speaker 2: the moment. Interesting. The EU are kind of the party

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01:04:41,573 --> 01:04:43,613
Speaker 2: purpose when it comes to some of the big social

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01:04:43,653 --> 01:04:47,093
Speaker 2: media platforms and you know big tech companies. Well, party

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01:04:47,093 --> 01:04:49,413
Speaker 2: purpose is not party purpose. I'm more for them. They're

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Speaker 2: the big regulators that they regulate as hard as any

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Speaker 2: country does or any group of countries does, which is

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Speaker 2: not to say that it's necessarily a whole heap of regulation.

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01:04:57,573 --> 01:05:01,493
Speaker 2: But they're now bringing in requirements that will mean all

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01:05:01,733 --> 01:05:04,413
Speaker 2: tech sold in the in the European Union will have

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01:05:04,533 --> 01:05:06,173
Speaker 2: to have a label on the box.

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Speaker 13: Yes, So if you've gone into you know, Lemings or whatever,

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01:05:09,813 --> 01:05:11,933
Speaker 13: you've probably seen those big stickers on the TV and

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01:05:11,933 --> 01:05:14,773
Speaker 13: the fridge talking about energy efficiency and things like that,

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Speaker 13: and that's what they're bringing in for basically all devices,

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01:05:18,933 --> 01:05:23,133
Speaker 13: so your phone, your tablet. There's a different requirement that

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01:05:23,293 --> 01:05:26,613
Speaker 13: has for laptops and things like that now that really

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01:05:26,653 --> 01:05:31,733
Speaker 13: wants to let consumers be able to compare with standardized

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01:05:31,813 --> 01:05:34,893
Speaker 13: information that kind of looks cross between like a nutrition

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Speaker 13: label and one of the five star ratings you see

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01:05:37,813 --> 01:05:40,813
Speaker 13: on a hotel. But they're looking to get people to

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01:05:40,933 --> 01:05:45,453
Speaker 13: understand really about the device and how how you can

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01:05:45,533 --> 01:05:49,093
Speaker 13: repair it, how durable it is. Basically trying to give

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01:05:49,133 --> 01:05:50,893
Speaker 13: you a sense of when you go and spend thee

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01:05:50,933 --> 01:05:53,853
Speaker 13: now couple of thousand dollars on a device, how long

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Speaker 13: is that then going to actually last you? So, how

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Speaker 13: how many times can the battery be recharged, what's it

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01:05:59,973 --> 01:06:02,973
Speaker 13: rated for? How long will should the battery be actually

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01:06:02,973 --> 01:06:05,653
Speaker 13: be lasting each day? Can you repair it? Can you

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Speaker 13: drop it? And interestingly, they've also put in some eco

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Speaker 13: design requirements they call them right and that's to make

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01:06:12,013 --> 01:06:14,293
Speaker 13: sure that devices are up to a certain standard when

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Speaker 13: it comes to things like being able to handle splashes

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01:06:17,333 --> 01:06:21,013
Speaker 13: of water or dust or scratches or drops, things that

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01:06:21,333 --> 01:06:23,773
Speaker 13: you know break your device and cause you have to

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01:06:23,773 --> 01:06:26,053
Speaker 13: buy another one. So they're actually really trying to look

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Speaker 13: out for the consumer. And I would probably go as

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Speaker 13: so far as the stair. As you said, they are

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Speaker 13: probably one of the biggest regulators. I think they have

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Speaker 13: probably driven more innovation, more innovation or forced innovation and

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Speaker 13: technology in the past couple of years than anyone else.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, they are the reason we have USBC in our iPhone.

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Speaker 20: Just be real.

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Speaker 13: And so what's interesting is this is this is coming

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Speaker 13: in now pretty quickly June eighth. Every device, every cell phone,

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Speaker 13: every tablet being sold in the EU will need to

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Speaker 13: have this mandatory label so folks can compare.

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Speaker 2: No, very good, hey, very quickly. Paul open Ai says

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Speaker 2: that be open to buying Google's Chrome browser.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, because the DOJ, the Department of Justice in the

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01:07:04,013 --> 01:07:06,773
Speaker 13: States ruled last year that Chrome is a monopost in

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01:07:06,893 --> 01:07:09,453
Speaker 13: search and so now they're trying to figure out are

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01:07:09,493 --> 01:07:12,253
Speaker 13: they going to carve up parts of Google And one

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Speaker 13: of the things they're looking at doing is taking Google

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Speaker 13: Chrome and forcing it to be sold. And open Ai

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01:07:17,813 --> 01:07:20,333
Speaker 13: took the stand this week and see we'd be interested

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Speaker 13: in buying it. Yeah, you would, no wonder what an

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01:07:23,333 --> 01:07:26,533
Speaker 13: instant audience, but you know, they want to be the person,

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Speaker 13: they want to be the surface you go to for

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Speaker 13: everything AI, the thing you open, the app you open.

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Speaker 13: What better way than doing it than grabbing the world's

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Speaker 13: number one web browser and Google and sorry, open as

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01:07:38,653 --> 01:07:40,413
Speaker 13: tried to work with Google a number of times they

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01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:42,093
Speaker 13: haven't been able to get to a deal day instead

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Speaker 13: partner with bing. So this would be this would be

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Speaker 13: a big curve. This could if this actually happened, this

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Speaker 13: would really truly be a potential to undo Google's what

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Speaker 13: decade of being the number one search and number one

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Speaker 13: web browser platform.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, they'd be fascinating. Okay, we'll see what happens there.

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01:08:01,773 --> 01:08:03,733
Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul, enjoy the rest of your time and

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01:08:04,333 --> 01:08:06,733
Speaker 2: it all will catch you soon. That's our texpert, Paul

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01:08:06,813 --> 01:08:11,133
Speaker 2: Stenhouse at seventeen to eleven. Doctor Brian Betty is in

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Speaker 2: with us next.

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Speaker 1: No bitter way to kick off your weekend than with

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Speaker 2: It was such sad news. A twelve year old Sarmon

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01:08:25,173 --> 01:08:29,533
Speaker 2: boy died in Auckland Starship Hospital last week after contracting

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01:08:29,893 --> 01:08:32,093
Speaker 2: dingy fever. So he'd been really sick in some more

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01:08:32,213 --> 01:08:35,493
Speaker 2: and then was transferred to New Zealand. But yeah, someone

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01:08:35,493 --> 01:08:37,893
Speaker 2: media confirmed I think a day after he was flown

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand that he had died. So we want

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01:08:40,453 --> 01:08:42,493
Speaker 2: to know a bit more about dingy fever and the

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01:08:42,573 --> 01:08:44,533
Speaker 2: kind of risk that it can present in this part

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Speaker 2: of the world. Doctor Brian Betty is here with us

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Speaker 2: this morning. Kelder Brian, thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Jack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, obviously this is a really you know,

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01:08:52,213 --> 01:08:55,093
Speaker 2: really sad case, just just twelve years old. But for

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Speaker 2: those who don't know anything about dingy fever, what actually

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01:08:58,373 --> 01:08:58,613
Speaker 2: is it?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, look at something we do need to be

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01:09:01,893 --> 01:09:04,733
Speaker 10: aware of because we often travel to the Pacific Islands

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01:09:04,853 --> 01:09:08,573
Speaker 10: and so it's a mosquito spread virus. So you get

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Speaker 10: it from mosquito bites, so when you get bitten, dingy

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01:09:12,213 --> 01:09:15,253
Speaker 10: fever can happen if that mosquito is infected with dingy fever.

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01:09:16,053 --> 01:09:19,853
Speaker 10: Now it occurs with the small mosquitos that occur during

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01:09:19,933 --> 01:09:22,493
Speaker 10: daylight or fly around during the day. Now, this is

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01:09:22,813 --> 01:09:26,813
Speaker 10: very different from mosquitos that cause malaria, which occur early

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01:09:26,933 --> 01:09:30,013
Speaker 10: morning or early evening. So it's a daytime mosquito that

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01:09:30,093 --> 01:09:33,373
Speaker 10: actually causes the problem. Now, we know it's endemic in

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Speaker 10: the Pacific Islands, so it tends to float around the

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01:09:35,973 --> 01:09:38,693
Speaker 10: Pacific Islands and every two to five years it tends

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Speaker 10: to be a major outbreak of it. And that's actually

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Speaker 10: happening at the moment in Samoa tolerant Fiji in particular.

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Speaker 10: Now it is becoming more common around the world with

1439
01:09:47,813 --> 01:09:50,693
Speaker 10: climate change. This is what's really interesting and not talked

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01:09:50,733 --> 01:09:53,453
Speaker 10: about at the moment. So we've seen it in more

1441
01:09:53,533 --> 01:09:55,493
Speaker 10: parts of the world. In fact, you can actually get

1442
01:09:55,533 --> 01:10:02,093
Speaker 10: to North Queensland now and as temperatures become warmer, more humid,

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01:10:02,173 --> 01:10:04,893
Speaker 10: mosquitoes tend to spread, dingy fever tends to spread, and

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Speaker 10: there's about four and a half million k this is

1445
01:10:06,613 --> 01:10:08,893
Speaker 10: a year around the world at the moment. Now, the

1446
01:10:08,973 --> 01:10:11,093
Speaker 10: question has could have reached New Zealand one day with

1447
01:10:11,213 --> 01:10:14,173
Speaker 10: climate change? The answer is actually yes, and it's probably

1448
01:10:14,173 --> 01:10:15,893
Speaker 10: one of the things we don't talk about enough in

1449
01:10:15,973 --> 01:10:18,693
Speaker 10: terms of the spread of these types of diseases. So yeah,

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01:10:18,813 --> 01:10:22,533
Speaker 10: endemic in the Pacific AD's certainly an issue at the moment,

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01:10:22,813 --> 01:10:25,173
Speaker 10: which which has led to this very tragic outcome.

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01:10:25,373 --> 01:10:27,773
Speaker 2: So what happens if you've betten buy a mosquito that

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01:10:27,853 --> 01:10:29,973
Speaker 2: has do you automatically.

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01:10:30,773 --> 01:10:33,493
Speaker 10: Well not always now it can be a symptomatic and

1455
01:10:33,533 --> 01:10:36,853
Speaker 10: some people can get very mild illness. But what can

1456
01:10:36,973 --> 01:10:39,853
Speaker 10: happen is is generally the infectional start to show itself

1457
01:10:39,933 --> 01:10:43,333
Speaker 10: four to ten days after the mosquito bite. Now, the

1458
01:10:43,493 --> 01:10:48,893
Speaker 10: typical symptoms are very high fever, severe headache, often pain

1459
01:10:48,973 --> 01:10:51,733
Speaker 10: between the eyes, and very severe muscle or joint pain.

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01:10:51,853 --> 01:10:55,133
Speaker 10: And colloquially it's been referred to as break bone fever.

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01:10:55,373 --> 01:10:57,693
Speaker 10: Some of your listeners may have heard of that phrase before,

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01:10:58,373 --> 01:11:01,093
Speaker 10: and it can cause nausea and vomiting, the skin rash. Now,

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01:11:01,173 --> 01:11:04,293
Speaker 10: typically it will get to better, get improved, and get

1464
01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:07,973
Speaker 10: better after one to two weeks. Now, however, there is

1465
01:11:08,013 --> 01:11:12,293
Speaker 10: a very severe form of it called dingy hemorrhagic fever. Now,

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01:11:12,333 --> 01:11:16,093
Speaker 10: this typically occurs after the second infection, So you've been

1467
01:11:16,133 --> 01:11:20,013
Speaker 10: affected once. What happens the immune system gets very primed

1468
01:11:20,133 --> 01:11:22,893
Speaker 10: to the dingy fever. You get a second bite in

1469
01:11:22,933 --> 01:11:26,093
Speaker 10: the second infection, and the immune system overreacts to it

1470
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Speaker 10: and you get this very dangerous condition called hemorrhagic dingy fever,

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Speaker 10: and that can lead to very severe complications and in

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01:11:34,693 --> 01:11:37,853
Speaker 10: some cases death. So, yes, the second one that can

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01:11:37,893 --> 01:11:40,493
Speaker 10: often be a real real problem if you get bitten.

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01:11:40,733 --> 01:11:45,293
Speaker 2: So there's no vaccine to prevent the disease. What do

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01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:46,373
Speaker 2: you do? How do you treat it?

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01:11:46,693 --> 01:11:49,453
Speaker 10: Yeah? Yeah, so this is really important. So, no, there

1477
01:11:49,493 --> 01:11:51,413
Speaker 10: is no vaccine that you can prevent it, So you

1478
01:11:51,453 --> 01:11:53,253
Speaker 10: can't go and see your doctor and get a vaccine

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01:11:53,293 --> 01:11:56,773
Speaker 10: to prevent it. Dingy fever, there's no treatment, so there's

1480
01:11:56,773 --> 01:12:00,013
Speaker 10: no antiviral treatment. So the only treatment that's available is

1481
01:12:00,053 --> 01:12:03,613
Speaker 10: really supportive. So in mild cases, it's things like paracetamol,

1482
01:12:03,773 --> 01:12:07,853
Speaker 10: plenty of fluids, and bed rest, and the majority will

1483
01:12:07,893 --> 01:12:12,893
Speaker 10: slowly get better. However, if the symptoms get very severe,

1484
01:12:13,053 --> 01:12:15,733
Speaker 10: you end up seeing a doctor, and in severe cases

1485
01:12:15,733 --> 01:12:18,333
Speaker 10: you'll end up in hospital for supportive treatment things like

1486
01:12:18,453 --> 01:12:21,973
Speaker 10: fluids and oxygen and sometimes I see you and things.

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01:12:22,013 --> 01:12:24,733
Speaker 10: So yeah, no treatment and that's actually a very very

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01:12:24,773 --> 01:12:27,013
Speaker 10: important thing to realize about. Dnky fever.

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01:12:27,253 --> 01:12:28,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've just got to prevent it. How do

1490
01:12:28,773 --> 01:12:29,253
Speaker 2: you do that?

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01:12:30,053 --> 01:12:33,493
Speaker 10: Prevention is actually the way to go. So look, I mean, look,

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01:12:33,493 --> 01:12:35,293
Speaker 10: if you are traveling to the su Islands and you're

1493
01:12:35,413 --> 01:12:37,293
Speaker 10: going to one of the resorts and things, the r

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01:12:37,893 --> 01:12:40,893
Speaker 10: resorts are very good at sort of keeping moskettos away,

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01:12:40,973 --> 01:12:44,093
Speaker 10: So they treat the grass, the areas, no stagnant water,

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Speaker 10: They do a whole lot of things to prevent mosquados,

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01:12:46,413 --> 01:12:49,213
Speaker 10: so it doesn't tend to be a problem. It's going

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01:12:49,253 --> 01:12:53,373
Speaker 10: outside of the resorts into two areas where mosquitos could

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01:12:53,373 --> 01:12:55,093
Speaker 10: be about. That is an issue. So you have to

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01:12:55,133 --> 01:12:59,773
Speaker 10: protect yourself. So that's things like insect repellents, especially repellents

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01:12:59,773 --> 01:13:03,493
Speaker 10: with something called deep in them which stops the mosquitos.

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01:13:03,973 --> 01:13:08,293
Speaker 10: Long sleeve you know, tops or pants are really really

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01:13:08,333 --> 01:13:11,813
Speaker 10: important and during the day actually mosquito yets if you're

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01:13:11,813 --> 01:13:14,893
Speaker 10: in those areas. So it's prevention and mosquito bites are

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01:13:14,933 --> 01:13:16,733
Speaker 10: the only thing you can do, and that's you need

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01:13:16,733 --> 01:13:17,293
Speaker 10: to be aware of.

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Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Brian, I appreciate your time. Yeah, yeah, it's

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01:13:20,373 --> 01:13:22,813
Speaker 2: that is fascinating and you know it could become even

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01:13:22,853 --> 01:13:24,893
Speaker 2: more of an issue in years to come in New

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01:13:24,973 --> 01:13:27,733
Speaker 2: Zealand of all places, which is yeah, the concern. Hey,

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01:13:28,053 --> 01:13:30,013
Speaker 2: that's doctor Brian Betty with us this morning ten to

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01:13:30,053 --> 01:13:31,173
Speaker 2: eleven on News Talks. He'd be.

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Speaker 1: Gardening with still shaft free autumn upgrades on Still's best.

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Speaker 2: Sellers, A Man and the Garden is Rude, Climb Bass, Hey.

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Speaker 14: Rude, Hey Jack, you're all good.

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01:13:43,733 --> 01:13:44,493
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very well.

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01:13:44,533 --> 01:13:47,133
Speaker 2: Thanks. Hey, Hey, just before we get into things this week,

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01:13:47,253 --> 01:13:51,533
Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I just watching from

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01:13:51,533 --> 01:13:53,973
Speaker 2: Afar and seeing the news. I have been quite affected

1520
01:13:54,093 --> 01:13:57,253
Speaker 2: by the by the murder of this young man in Auckland.

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01:13:57,653 --> 01:14:02,573
Speaker 2: Kyle Warrell is this entomologist in Auckland. And you know,

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01:14:02,733 --> 01:14:06,213
Speaker 2: I know that the entomology community isn't the largest community

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01:14:06,213 --> 01:14:08,093
Speaker 2: in the world. I just I don't know I as

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01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:12,293
Speaker 2: someone who obviously has dedicated his life and is similarly

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01:14:12,333 --> 01:14:15,013
Speaker 2: passionate about bugs and insects and things. I just I

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01:14:15,093 --> 01:14:17,453
Speaker 2: wondered how you had kind of taken in that news

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01:14:17,453 --> 01:14:17,893
Speaker 2: this week.

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01:14:19,293 --> 01:14:21,653
Speaker 14: It's yeah, it is an awful thing to happen. The

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01:14:21,693 --> 01:14:25,093
Speaker 14: irony is that I don't I did not know know

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01:14:25,253 --> 01:14:28,693
Speaker 14: that guy at all, to be quite honest, and the

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01:14:29,133 --> 01:14:32,493
Speaker 14: reason is because he is based in Auckland. But we

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01:14:32,573 --> 01:14:36,733
Speaker 14: also had earlier this year another entomologist who got or

1533
01:14:36,813 --> 01:14:41,773
Speaker 14: got killed by some idiots in Blockhouset Bay, and the ironies,

1534
01:14:41,853 --> 01:14:44,533
Speaker 14: I knew him really well, and I knew his tennis

1535
01:14:44,533 --> 01:14:47,333
Speaker 14: club really well, and et cetera, et cetera, And that

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01:14:47,533 --> 01:14:50,413
Speaker 14: those are the awful things. And so we have talked

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01:14:50,413 --> 01:14:53,453
Speaker 14: to a few entomologists at the moment, because we quite

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01:14:53,493 --> 01:14:58,173
Speaker 14: often go out at night looking for things and suddenly

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01:14:58,213 --> 01:15:01,013
Speaker 14: we think, WHOA yeah, a good idea.

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01:15:01,053 --> 01:15:03,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's crazy that we would

1541
01:15:03,813 --> 01:15:06,933
Speaker 2: be having these conversations in New Zealand and five sactly.

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01:15:07,173 --> 01:15:10,693
Speaker 2: So said I just, yeah, where's the respect?

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01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:14,893
Speaker 14: That's it? So, yeah, I totally agree with you. We

1544
01:15:14,893 --> 01:15:18,333
Speaker 14: we really have to think about it in the future.

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01:15:18,933 --> 01:15:20,813
Speaker 14: I do it a lot with teachers, going outside at

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01:15:20,893 --> 01:15:22,373
Speaker 14: night with the UV torches.

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Speaker 4: Great fun.

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01:15:23,013 --> 01:15:28,253
Speaker 2: But but okay, anyway, you're thinking about names this morning.

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Speaker 14: I'm thinking about names. I'm thinking about tafrina deformants. The

1550
01:15:32,653 --> 01:15:35,093
Speaker 14: reason is, for instance, that a lot of people say, oh,

1551
01:15:35,133 --> 01:15:39,053
Speaker 14: we've got this this lovely little trouble on our on

1552
01:15:39,853 --> 01:15:43,893
Speaker 14: our trees, especially on peaches and things like that, and

1553
01:15:44,693 --> 01:15:46,573
Speaker 14: how do we work about that? And what are we

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01:15:46,653 --> 01:15:51,133
Speaker 14: doing about that? So I go like, tafrina is the

1555
01:15:51,133 --> 01:15:55,933
Speaker 14: fundus basically that that basically goes onto these particular plants,

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01:15:56,253 --> 01:16:02,013
Speaker 14: and especially especially fruit trees. And the point is now

1557
01:16:02,253 --> 01:16:04,853
Speaker 14: is the time that you can do something about that,

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01:16:05,133 --> 01:16:09,613
Speaker 14: and that is the important. So what I do with

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01:16:09,773 --> 01:16:13,173
Speaker 14: my pitches is from now on, especially when the leaves

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01:16:13,173 --> 01:16:16,733
Speaker 14: are falling, I give them a double dose of copper.

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01:16:17,133 --> 01:16:19,973
Speaker 14: Once I do it again two or three weeks later,

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01:16:20,453 --> 01:16:23,853
Speaker 14: and basically the leaf girl on the pitches will at

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01:16:23,893 --> 01:16:27,973
Speaker 14: this stage become part of the tree. You'll basically be

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01:16:28,253 --> 01:16:30,173
Speaker 14: early on getting read.

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01:16:30,093 --> 01:16:33,373
Speaker 16: Of the of the of the leaf girl by spraying

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01:16:33,413 --> 01:16:36,893
Speaker 16: it right now. And if you've got bloody plum or

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01:16:37,053 --> 01:16:40,173
Speaker 16: plum pocket as they call it, same thing, it is

1568
01:16:40,253 --> 01:16:41,333
Speaker 16: also a tafrina.

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Speaker 14: It does the same thing and it actually causes a

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01:16:44,213 --> 01:16:48,053
Speaker 14: lot of trouble on your plants later on in spring.

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Speaker 14: This is the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, very good, here, we'll get onto that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:16:54,053 --> 01:16:55,853
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. It makes a lot of sense.

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01:16:56,853 --> 01:16:58,813
Speaker 2: All right, you're given the weather starting to turn, it's

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01:16:58,813 --> 01:17:01,333
Speaker 2: probably the time to start focusing on those kinds of things.

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01:17:01,333 --> 01:17:03,173
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, so we will catch you again,

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01:17:03,493 --> 01:17:05,693
Speaker 2: get you very soon. Set a rude climb past and

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01:17:05,893 --> 01:17:09,213
Speaker 2: the garden for us. This morning, after eleven o'clock on

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Speaker 2: Newstalks EDB, we are going to take a little trip

1580
01:17:12,533 --> 01:17:15,733
Speaker 2: to Salzburg in our travel segment this morning, we're going

1581
01:17:15,813 --> 01:17:18,453
Speaker 2: to listen to this new music as well from Samantha Fish.

1582
01:17:18,533 --> 01:17:20,733
Speaker 2: She's got an amazing sound. This kind of there's like

1583
01:17:20,773 --> 01:17:23,733
Speaker 2: a little sliver of Amy Winehouse and her, but then

1584
01:17:23,733 --> 01:17:27,053
Speaker 2: she's kind of bluesy and kinds of blue grassy as well.

1585
01:17:27,213 --> 01:17:30,373
Speaker 2: She's a guitarist, so yeah, you know, play a bit

1586
01:17:30,373 --> 01:17:32,893
Speaker 2: of that. She's got a brand new album called paper Doll,

1587
01:17:32,933 --> 01:17:35,693
Speaker 2: but we'll pick out a couple of choice tracks and

1588
01:17:36,053 --> 01:17:38,893
Speaker 2: share those with you very soon as well as that.

1589
01:17:38,933 --> 01:17:40,893
Speaker 2: If you're looking for a good read this weekend, we

1590
01:17:41,013 --> 01:17:44,213
Speaker 2: of course have book recommendations, including a book called The

1591
01:17:44,293 --> 01:17:47,893
Speaker 2: Perfect Divorce, which is just one of those amazing names.

1592
01:17:47,933 --> 01:17:49,573
Speaker 2: You know that book's just going to do super well

1593
01:17:49,573 --> 01:17:52,213
Speaker 2: off the title alone. It is almost eleven o'clock though,

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01:17:52,293 --> 01:17:54,373
Speaker 2: News is next yet with Jack Tamet Saturday morning, and

1595
01:17:54,413 --> 01:17:55,653
Speaker 2: this is News Talks.

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01:17:55,413 --> 01:18:08,013
Speaker 1: ZEDB Saturday Mornings with Jack ta keeping the conversation going

1597
01:18:08,053 --> 01:18:11,213
Speaker 1: through the weekend with bpure dot co dots here for

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01:18:11,333 --> 01:18:13,613
Speaker 1: high quality supplements used talk, said.

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Speaker 12: Maud in a.

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Speaker 2: Good morning you were Jack Tame on News Talks, he'd

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01:18:39,293 --> 01:18:43,373
Speaker 2: be my pleasure to be with you this ANZAC Saturday morning.

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01:18:43,413 --> 01:18:46,093
Speaker 2: I think we can call it that day. Hey, some

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01:18:46,173 --> 01:18:50,693
Speaker 2: fascinating detail has come out of a big legal case

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01:18:50,813 --> 01:18:53,933
Speaker 2: in the US this week. So Mark Zuckerberg and Meta,

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01:18:54,013 --> 01:18:56,173
Speaker 2: the company that I owned Facebook, have been on the

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01:18:56,213 --> 01:18:59,413
Speaker 2: stand in this big antitrust case and there were some

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01:18:59,493 --> 01:19:02,173
Speaker 2: numbers that I saw reported out of that which just

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01:19:02,173 --> 01:19:06,293
Speaker 2: blew me away. Basically, they show that social media is

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01:19:06,653 --> 01:19:10,173
Speaker 2: no longer social. Right, So, the whole thing with Facebook,

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01:19:10,173 --> 01:19:13,093
Speaker 2: the whole thing with social media when it was first introduced,

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01:19:13,133 --> 01:19:15,453
Speaker 2: the thing that got so many of us interested in

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01:19:15,493 --> 01:19:19,653
Speaker 2: the first place, was that it was a forum for

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01:19:19,813 --> 01:19:22,653
Speaker 2: us to all interact with our friends and family. Right.

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01:19:22,653 --> 01:19:24,933
Speaker 2: You think about the first time you got a Facebook account,

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01:19:25,013 --> 01:19:26,613
Speaker 2: and it was an opportunity for you to go and

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01:19:26,653 --> 01:19:28,533
Speaker 2: add your friends and then to talk to them, and

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01:19:28,573 --> 01:19:31,533
Speaker 2: to make posts about different things, and then to react

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01:19:31,693 --> 01:19:35,933
Speaker 2: to your friends different posts. The whole thing was social. Well,

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01:19:35,933 --> 01:19:39,253
Speaker 2: increasingly it isn't. So get this. In the last two years,

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01:19:40,133 --> 01:19:44,093
Speaker 2: the amount of time that people spent engaging with content

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01:19:44,653 --> 01:19:47,813
Speaker 2: posted by their friends on Facebook has gone down from

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01:19:47,853 --> 01:19:50,573
Speaker 2: twenty two percent of the time on Facebook to seventeen

1623
01:19:51,253 --> 01:19:53,413
Speaker 2: So just seventeen percent of the time that people are

1624
01:19:53,893 --> 01:19:56,893
Speaker 2: spending on Facebook is actually spent engaging with stuff that's

1625
01:19:56,933 --> 01:19:59,533
Speaker 2: come from their friends. The rest of that time, the

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01:19:59,573 --> 01:20:03,173
Speaker 2: other eighty three percent is content that's just being posted

1627
01:20:03,173 --> 01:20:05,693
Speaker 2: into your feed. Now, some of it might be from

1628
01:20:05,893 --> 01:20:08,573
Speaker 2: groups you've chosen to follow, or things that you've expressed

1629
01:20:08,613 --> 01:20:11,173
Speaker 2: interest in, but some of that is just coming randomly

1630
01:20:11,213 --> 01:20:14,333
Speaker 2: into your feet. On Instagram, it's even more stark so

1631
01:20:14,373 --> 01:20:16,653
Speaker 2: in the last two years, it's gone from eleven percent

1632
01:20:16,693 --> 01:20:19,333
Speaker 2: of time spent engaging with posts and friends down to

1633
01:20:19,413 --> 01:20:23,173
Speaker 2: seven percent. So really, when you think about it, at

1634
01:20:23,253 --> 01:20:26,373
Speaker 2: least in Meta's case, in Facebook's case, and honestly, this

1635
01:20:26,493 --> 01:20:30,853
Speaker 2: is exactly the same, if not more extreme, is the

1636
01:20:30,893 --> 01:20:34,893
Speaker 2: case on TikTok. They've gone from being social media to

1637
01:20:35,013 --> 01:20:38,613
Speaker 2: just being media. Right, They are just content machines. They

1638
01:20:38,653 --> 01:20:42,173
Speaker 2: are basically just big algorithms that don't really have that

1639
01:20:42,253 --> 01:20:45,253
Speaker 2: much interest in engaging you with your friends. They're really

1640
01:20:45,293 --> 01:20:49,053
Speaker 2: focused on just giving you whatever content will keep you

1641
01:20:49,413 --> 01:20:54,253
Speaker 2: on that platform for the longest period of time. In anyway,

1642
01:20:54,773 --> 01:20:58,053
Speaker 2: the reason I raise that is because I have yet

1643
01:20:58,133 --> 01:21:01,613
Speaker 2: another gripe with Meta. So overnight I got an email

1644
01:21:01,693 --> 01:21:07,813
Speaker 2: from Professor Rinky Murphy, who is widely respected endochronologist, she's

1645
01:21:08,053 --> 01:21:11,453
Speaker 2: basically a diabetes expert at the University of Auckland, and

1646
01:21:11,613 --> 01:21:15,093
Speaker 2: she sent me this link to what is a deep

1647
01:21:15,133 --> 01:21:19,133
Speaker 2: fake video. So this video has been posted on Facebook

1648
01:21:19,293 --> 01:21:23,213
Speaker 2: in which someone has taken an interview that I did

1649
01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:27,013
Speaker 2: with Professor Murphy for Q and A, and they've changed

1650
01:21:27,013 --> 01:21:30,973
Speaker 2: our voices, so the interview looks exactly the same. It's

1651
01:21:31,053 --> 01:21:34,413
Speaker 2: me there standing in a TV studio. Then cuts to

1652
01:21:34,493 --> 01:21:37,373
Speaker 2: an interview that I did with Rinky, So it's all

1653
01:21:37,373 --> 01:21:40,253
Speaker 2: really well less. It looks like a professional It looks

1654
01:21:40,253 --> 01:21:44,613
Speaker 2: like a professional interview, except they've managed with AI to

1655
01:21:44,813 --> 01:21:47,933
Speaker 2: change the shape of our mouths and change our voices,

1656
01:21:48,413 --> 01:21:51,093
Speaker 2: so all of a sudden, both Rinky and I have

1657
01:21:51,653 --> 01:21:57,733
Speaker 2: different sounding accents, and the video is very different to

1658
01:21:57,813 --> 01:22:00,573
Speaker 2: the interview that we originally recorded. In this deep fake,

1659
01:22:01,493 --> 01:22:06,093
Speaker 2: Rinky urges people to give up their regular diabetes medication

1660
01:22:06,653 --> 01:22:09,853
Speaker 2: and to pay several hundred dollars for a miracle cure.

1661
01:22:10,213 --> 01:22:13,813
Speaker 2: Right now, if you have come across this, listen to

1662
01:22:13,893 --> 01:22:16,933
Speaker 2: my words very carefully when I say this. It is

1663
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:19,853
Speaker 2: a scam. This is a scam. It is not real.

1664
01:22:20,493 --> 01:22:24,653
Speaker 2: If you are on diabetes medication, do not stop taking

1665
01:22:24,693 --> 01:22:29,613
Speaker 2: that regular medication, and certainly do not transfer any money.

1666
01:22:29,693 --> 01:22:35,053
Speaker 2: It is a scam. Now, it's really really frustrating, I

1667
01:22:35,093 --> 01:22:37,853
Speaker 2: mean for Rinky and me and for many other people

1668
01:22:37,933 --> 01:22:40,493
Speaker 2: in our position who've been caught up in these kind

1669
01:22:40,533 --> 01:22:43,213
Speaker 2: of scams. Speaking personally, This is not the first time

1670
01:22:43,653 --> 01:22:46,733
Speaker 2: I have had my likeness used in a scam on Facebook.

1671
01:22:46,773 --> 01:22:49,813
Speaker 2: It is far from it, right, I've had my image

1672
01:22:49,893 --> 01:22:53,613
Speaker 2: use many times before from people, you know, trying to

1673
01:22:53,653 --> 01:22:57,093
Speaker 2: shell various products and get people who are on Facebook

1674
01:22:57,173 --> 01:23:00,733
Speaker 2: to hand over their credit card details. It is so

1675
01:23:00,893 --> 01:23:03,493
Speaker 2: frustrating with these things because they pop up time and

1676
01:23:03,573 --> 01:23:05,893
Speaker 2: time and time again. And I've got to say that

1677
01:23:05,933 --> 01:23:08,053
Speaker 2: when it comes I'm still a company like Meta with

1678
01:23:08,213 --> 01:23:12,093
Speaker 2: all of its resources. With Facebook, I just find it

1679
01:23:12,453 --> 01:23:16,653
Speaker 2: preposterous that they cannot do more to proactively stop this

1680
01:23:16,813 --> 01:23:19,173
Speaker 2: kind of behavior. So for the time being, at the

1681
01:23:19,293 --> 01:23:22,413
Speaker 2: very least, we have reported this deep fake video, But

1682
01:23:22,453 --> 01:23:24,373
Speaker 2: then when I click on a link, I'm still able

1683
01:23:24,413 --> 01:23:26,213
Speaker 2: to see a version of it on Facebook. So I

1684
01:23:26,253 --> 01:23:28,573
Speaker 2: don't know whether or not it's coming up on other

1685
01:23:28,573 --> 01:23:31,413
Speaker 2: people's feeds or not. It's you know, it may well be.

1686
01:23:31,493 --> 01:23:33,693
Speaker 2: For the time being, all I can do is try

1687
01:23:33,773 --> 01:23:38,453
Speaker 2: and use my public forums like being with You on

1688
01:23:38,493 --> 01:23:41,773
Speaker 2: Saturday mornings to urge you not to give up your

1689
01:23:41,813 --> 01:23:46,333
Speaker 2: medication and not to hand over any personal information or

1690
01:23:46,373 --> 01:23:49,333
Speaker 2: to pay several hundred dollars for what's being sold at

1691
01:23:49,333 --> 01:23:52,333
Speaker 2: the moment as a miracle cure. It is incredibly frustrating.

1692
01:23:52,813 --> 01:23:55,653
Speaker 2: But even for one of the world's biggest companies like Meta,

1693
01:23:55,733 --> 01:23:59,013
Speaker 2: these problems just do not seem to stop popping up

1694
01:23:59,053 --> 01:24:01,693
Speaker 2: from time to time. All right before mid day on

1695
01:24:01,733 --> 01:24:03,773
Speaker 2: news talk Z'DB, We're going to play some new music

1696
01:24:03,813 --> 01:24:06,973
Speaker 2: from Samantha Fish. She's got a brand new album, Paper Doll.

1697
01:24:07,013 --> 01:24:08,533
Speaker 2: I never heard of her until this week, but she

1698
01:24:08,653 --> 01:24:11,733
Speaker 2: sounds fantastic, so really looking forward to that, and very shortly,

1699
01:24:11,733 --> 01:24:13,893
Speaker 2: our travel correspondent will be here as well. Right now,

1700
01:24:13,933 --> 01:24:16,733
Speaker 2: though it is thirteen minutes past nine. On New Stalking

1701
01:24:16,893 --> 01:24:20,493
Speaker 2: Team Clinical Psychologists, Google Sutherland is with us this morning.

1702
01:24:20,533 --> 01:24:24,173
Speaker 2: He's from Umbrella Well Being of course golda Google cureder.

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01:24:24,253 --> 01:24:24,453
Speaker 6: Jack.

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01:24:24,493 --> 01:24:24,853
Speaker 1: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm yeah, well a little bit, you know, frustrated this morning.

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Speaker 6: But like frustrated, Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's appalling. Honestly, these things are

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Speaker 2: just appalling, and I just cannot believe that for all

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Speaker 2: of the technology and AI development and all of that stuff,

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Speaker 2: that companies like Meta can't do more to actually stop

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Speaker 2: the thing from happening in the first place. I just

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Speaker 2: I don't find it.

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Speaker 21: I completely completely agree it's you know, if you if

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Speaker 21: we put the emphasis on those companies to actually rub

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Speaker 21: this stuff out, yeah, and you know, prevent children from

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Speaker 21: under the age of twelve being on. You know, I

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Speaker 21: think we're rather than that, all the emphasis having to

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Speaker 21: go on people having to.

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Speaker 6: Do it themselves. It's just the biggest belief that they

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Speaker 6: can't do it, I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they just have no financial incentive right now,

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Speaker 2: which is the problem. Anyway, So last time we spoke,

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Speaker 2: I was talking about being very busy and always doing

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Speaker 2: a thousand things at once, and that has inspired in

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Speaker 2: new a topic for this morning, which is the benefits

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Speaker 2: of doing one thing at a time. And look, Google,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't take them. It doesn't much to say that

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Speaker 2: this might be targeted at me.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, it was just inspired by our conversation.

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Speaker 21: I was just reflecting on it because I used to

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Speaker 21: have a very similar pattern to you, and you know,

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Speaker 21: doing trying to do three things at once and pack

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Speaker 21: in as much as you can and brushing my teeth

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Speaker 21: while you know, combing my hair and listening to a

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Speaker 21: podcast at the same time whilst keeping the other air

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Speaker 21: on the news. And actually I think it just adds

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Speaker 21: to the sense of frenetic busyness, franticness that we have,

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Speaker 21: many of us have in our lives, and being able

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Speaker 21: to disentangle yourself from that, I think can have some

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Speaker 21: real benefits just for living you alone life or destressing

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Speaker 21: taking some of the busyness out of life.

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Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I mean it's not a virtue, and

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Speaker 2: I have to remind myself this sometimes, like being busy

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Speaker 2: isn't a virtue. It's actually like you know, there are

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Speaker 2: some really significant downsides to it. But it is amazing

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Speaker 2: how busy our lives have become, especially with that addictive

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Speaker 2: little electronic device in our pockets. So as an inestimate

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Speaker 2: from a couple of years ago that we have thirty

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Speaker 2: four gigabytes of information coming at us every day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's and that is from a number of years ago.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to find.

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Speaker 21: Some more recent figures on that, but I couldn't come

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Speaker 21: across anything.

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Speaker 6: But that was I think a Stanford study that was

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Speaker 6: done a few years ago saying that.

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Speaker 21: That's how much they estimate, and I'm sure that is

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Speaker 21: more now. And you know, Spark, going back to your

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Speaker 21: comments just previously around social media, which not really social anymore,

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Speaker 21: but just that influx of information, and you know, it's

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Speaker 21: always coming at us, always.

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Speaker 2: Coming at us.

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Speaker 21: And I'm not you know, I'm not a love eye tie.

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Speaker 21: I've got a phone and I'm on social media, and

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Speaker 21: I've used iPads and computers, but it's just can be overwhelming.

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Speaker 21: And I think we get into the pattern of always

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Speaker 21: being on and always trying to juggle, and always doing

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Speaker 21: three things at once. And I'm not sure that that's

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Speaker 21: actually all that helpful, to be honest with.

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Speaker 2: You, No, I tend to agree. You know, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: there are obvious kind of negative effects on well being, right,

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Speaker 2: You've always got that kind of low level of stress,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I just find that like like busyness

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Speaker 2: kind of breeds busyness, and it kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're addicted to your phone and someone's you know,

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Speaker 2: and you're having conversation with someone and then you just

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Speaker 2: find yourself reaching for it and kind of scrolling mindlessly

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Speaker 2: in a conversation.

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Speaker 3: Like, it's really bad.

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Speaker 2: It's bad for relationships, man. So anyway, you've got three

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Speaker 2: tips this morning, practical things that we can do to

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Speaker 2: try and focus on one thing at a time. Yeah.

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Speaker 21: Yeah, absolutely, Look firstly and We've discussed mindfulness before and

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Speaker 21: many many people I'm sure listening will have heard of mindfulness,

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Speaker 21: but i'd encourage people to dig.

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Speaker 6: Into that a little bit more.

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Speaker 21: That's it's a lot, it's more than people think it is,

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Speaker 21: and it's it's.

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Speaker 6: One of the one of the benefits of it.

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Speaker 21: I always think about mindfulness actually is a bit like

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Speaker 21: an onion, is that you know, there's layers and layers,

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Speaker 21: and the more you do, the more you kind of

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Speaker 21: understand it and appreciate it. One of the benefits, I

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Speaker 21: think is just learning to notice when your mind has

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Speaker 21: where your awareness has drifted onto something else and allow

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Speaker 21: yourself to bring it back to just doing one thing

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Speaker 21: at a time and acknowledging that we will get distracted

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Speaker 21: and that's okay, but just bringing back the control of

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Speaker 21: your awareness. So you're just going to do this one

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Speaker 21: thing at a time, whatever, that one thing and so

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Speaker 21: I think that's that's the first tip. Okay, second second

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Speaker 21: would be and a little bit inspired by you our

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Speaker 21: conversation from a couple of weeks ago. You know, you

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Speaker 21: around you brushing teeth and listening to your podcast, etc.

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Speaker 21: Get into the practice or the habit of just doing

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Speaker 21: a task, a daily task might be something like, you know,

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Speaker 21: brushing your teeth, or getting dressed, or even cycling or

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Speaker 21: walking or doing the dishes.

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Speaker 6: Just do that task.

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Speaker 21: So practice doing that one thing and just noticing all

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Speaker 21: the different components of this. So if you're brushing your

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Speaker 21: teeth and it sounds a little bit kind of people

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Speaker 21: might be going with the ex that's going to do

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Speaker 21: about but you know, noticing the taste of toothpaste, noticing

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Speaker 21: the feel of in your mouth, noticing, noticing all those aspects,

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Speaker 21: Noticing when your mind drifts off and it goes to

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Speaker 21: something else, and just practice bringing it back.

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Speaker 6: So there's nothing magic about brushing your.

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Speaker 21: Teeth or doing the dishes or going for a walk necessarily,

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Speaker 21: but it is that practice, that habit of actually noticing

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Speaker 21: your mind drifting away, getting distracted by other things, and

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Speaker 21: bringing it back just to this one thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your third tip is an absolute doozy, a classic.

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Speaker 2: This is this is something a little bit left field.

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Speaker 21: Oh look it's and you know, I've got to be honest,

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Speaker 21: I'm not being paid for this endorsement in any way,

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Speaker 21: shape or form. But my daughter and I my daughter

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Speaker 21: is home for the Easter weekend, from Union Auckland and

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Speaker 21: we just heard I don't know, we came across this.

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Speaker 21: It's Moose TV basically, and it's Swedish slow TV. And

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Speaker 21: I'm sure many people have heard of slow TV, but

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Speaker 21: this is a these It's about thirty cameras on Swedish

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Speaker 21: TV running twenty four to seven and you can log on,

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Speaker 21: you can go to the website and watch it yourself.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to be in Sweden.

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Speaker 21: And it's essentially thirty cameras that are tracking migrating moose

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Speaker 21: across a river. And at last count I just checked

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Speaker 21: about half an hour ago, sixty four moose had crossed

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Speaker 21: over the past about fourteen or fifteen days.

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Speaker 6: So that gives you the sense of how. But there's

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Speaker 6: just something.

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Speaker 21: I honestly can almost feel my blood pressure reduced just

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Speaker 21: by sitting there watching it, because there's these beautiful scenes

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Speaker 21: of Swedish fewords and rivers and nothing. I've got to

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01:31:24,813 --> 01:31:28,253
Speaker 21: be honest, nothing much is happening for most of that time.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's just.

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Speaker 21: Pictures of forest or a river, and occasionally you see

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Speaker 21: most if you're very lucky, but it's yeah, it's just

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Speaker 21: really and it's just like ah, I can almost just

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Speaker 21: feel I'm just watching this one thing.

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Speaker 6: I've not got ads coming in. I'm not switching. It's

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Speaker 6: just this thing.

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Speaker 21: So I think it's on for about four or five

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Speaker 21: more days, so people can go and check it out

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Speaker 21: if they're interested in that.

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Speaker 2: I love it. There's such a good idea, doogle. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give it a crack. I swear, hey, thank

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Speaker 2: you so much. We will get up very soon. Google

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Speaker 2: Sutherland from Umbrella Well being there. It's twenty past eleven,

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Speaker 2: non news Storks.

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Speaker 1: He'd be travel with Windy Woo Tours Where the World

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01:32:09,453 --> 01:32:11,013
Speaker 1: is Yours book now.

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01:32:11,213 --> 01:32:13,893
Speaker 2: Twenty three past eleven. On news talks, he'd be Mackyard

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Speaker 2: these our travel corresponding. He's here this morning, Hey.

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Speaker 3: Mike, Good morning.

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Speaker 4: Jack.

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Speaker 19: All lies on St. Peter's Square tonight. How do you

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Speaker 19: think Rome's hotels are well?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? You asked that because as soon as you know,

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Speaker 2: the news came through, I was on I was on

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Speaker 2: breakfast this week, so I was getting up and doing

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Speaker 2: in the early morning shifts, and the news came through

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Speaker 2: what like eight thirty or so on Monday night, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, oh, it'll be interesting to see if our

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Speaker 2: correspondent can hot tail it from London to Rome by

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Speaker 2: the time we're on here tomorrow morning, and whether or

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Speaker 2: not they'll be able to get her to get her

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01:32:46,293 --> 01:32:48,053
Speaker 2: a hotel and any and she was there fine, made

1878
01:32:48,053 --> 01:32:50,573
Speaker 2: it with penty of time and got a hotel. But yes,

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Speaker 2: I suspect there might have been a little bit of

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Speaker 2: surge pricing, just a just a hunt, just a little hunch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and my mind met that Christopher Luxan's and like a

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01:32:58,973 --> 01:33:02,053
Speaker 2: you know, the standard the standards hotel. He's probably in

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Speaker 2: like a three and a half star or something. You know.

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Speaker 19: Well, I'd say he's via Veneto, where all the luxury

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Speaker 19: hotels up. But interestingly, according to booking dot Com, at

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Speaker 19: the moment, Rome is ninety five percent full of The

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Speaker 19: amazing thing is and I've always found this incredible about Rome.

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Speaker 19: They have ninety eight thousand hotel rooms in that sitting.

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01:33:22,853 --> 01:33:24,493
Speaker 2: Ah, that's crazy.

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01:33:24,533 --> 01:33:26,053
Speaker 3: I think it isn't it.

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Speaker 19: I don't think anything could sell it out because yeah,

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Speaker 19: the inventory is just so massive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wow, that's incredible. Okay, Yeah, it'll be amazing to

1894
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Speaker 2: watch that funeral tonight just after eight o'clock New Zealand,

1895
01:33:37,693 --> 01:33:40,413
Speaker 2: of course, but we're turning our attention this morning to

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Speaker 2: a location just down the road relatively speaking, and Salzburg.

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Speaker 2: So Salzburg sort of feels kind of like it was

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Speaker 2: kind of made for tourism.

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01:33:49,213 --> 01:33:51,573
Speaker 3: Ah, totally.

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Speaker 19: It's it's as if tourism's planets were just perfectly aligned

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01:33:57,213 --> 01:34:01,733
Speaker 19: over Salzburg, because you've got that perfectly preserved old town.

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01:34:01,813 --> 01:34:06,133
Speaker 19: You've got amazing gardens, Baroque churches, one of Europe's largest

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01:34:06,133 --> 01:34:11,093
Speaker 19: and medieval fortresses, all cradled in Alpine grandeur. And then

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Speaker 19: overlay that jack with its music, Meca status, Wolfgang Amadas,

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Speaker 19: Mozart and of course the von Traps.

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Speaker 3: So it really has all the elements.

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Speaker 2: So where would you go to get a good sense

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Speaker 2: of Mozart's life.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think the main shopping street is we should

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Speaker 19: head first, because that's where you will find Mozart's family home.

1911
01:34:31,093 --> 01:34:34,613
Speaker 19: He's got this fabulous pestle painted townhouse and that's where

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Speaker 19: he lived for most of his life, twenty five of

1913
01:34:37,373 --> 01:34:40,213
Speaker 19: his thirty five years. He died of kidney disease at yeah,

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01:34:40,293 --> 01:34:44,173
Speaker 19: a ridiculously young age. But inside that townhouse there are

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Speaker 19: so many amazing artifacts, like you can see his childhood viola,

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Speaker 19: the square piano he played on the claver chord, on

1917
01:34:52,533 --> 01:34:56,693
Speaker 19: which he composed his final work, Requiem, which was played

1918
01:34:56,733 --> 01:35:01,533
Speaker 19: for his own funeral. There is this stunning cafe about

1919
01:35:01,533 --> 01:35:04,093
Speaker 19: three hundred and fifty years old called Cafe Tomasselli. He

1920
01:35:04,133 --> 01:35:06,173
Speaker 19: was a regular via Jack and Man. He was ahead

1921
01:35:06,173 --> 01:35:09,773
Speaker 19: of the he was very partial to almond milk.

1922
01:35:10,853 --> 01:35:13,613
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so way ahead of the trends.

1923
01:35:13,813 --> 01:35:18,173
Speaker 19: Yes, and of course in a city swollen with his music,

1924
01:35:18,533 --> 01:35:21,693
Speaker 19: there are just so many concert halls every night that

1925
01:35:22,013 --> 01:35:27,013
Speaker 19: just before Mozart's music. Best of all, though, Jack Mozart Kogle,

1926
01:35:27,293 --> 01:35:32,213
Speaker 19: these are well sort of Mozart immortalized in chocolate. They're

1927
01:35:32,213 --> 01:35:37,133
Speaker 19: a mash up of chocolate, pistachio and Marsipan Mozart balls.

1928
01:35:37,373 --> 01:35:39,733
Speaker 19: Definitely get your fill of his balls.

1929
01:35:40,173 --> 01:35:44,013
Speaker 2: Wow, yes, yes, so to speak. What about the sound

1930
01:35:44,013 --> 01:35:44,773
Speaker 2: of music.

1931
01:35:46,053 --> 01:35:49,973
Speaker 19: Well, this is the amazing thing about Saltzburg. Despite the

1932
01:35:50,013 --> 01:35:55,213
Speaker 19: movie's oscars acclaim, it is still really unfamiliar to a

1933
01:35:55,253 --> 01:35:58,613
Speaker 19: lot of Europeans. And the reason for that was when

1934
01:35:58,653 --> 01:36:02,293
Speaker 19: it was released, much of Central and Eastern Europe didn't

1935
01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:07,293
Speaker 19: screen it because its Nazi themes were deemed too raw,

1936
01:36:08,013 --> 01:36:11,053
Speaker 19: too soon for movie audiences. So a lot of locals

1937
01:36:11,053 --> 01:36:14,173
Speaker 19: in Salzburg. Yes, they'll see the souvenirs, but they'll have

1938
01:36:14,413 --> 01:36:18,173
Speaker 19: no affinity or knowledge of the of the movie itself.

1939
01:36:18,253 --> 01:36:21,053
Speaker 19: So yeah, many Austrians never heard of it.

1940
01:36:21,293 --> 01:36:24,053
Speaker 2: It's what like the sixtieth anniversary of that film, Mate.

1941
01:36:25,013 --> 01:36:28,333
Speaker 19: It is incredible, and it's estimated that even though the

1942
01:36:28,333 --> 01:36:30,973
Speaker 19: locals aren't really up with the play with the sound

1943
01:36:31,053 --> 01:36:35,053
Speaker 19: of music, forty percent of visitors to Saltzburg are lured

1944
01:36:35,093 --> 01:36:38,333
Speaker 19: there by the movie ringing in its ears. So it

1945
01:36:38,453 --> 01:36:40,733
Speaker 19: is very much, you know, the Lord of the Rings

1946
01:36:40,733 --> 01:36:46,413
Speaker 19: Austrian style. And there are just so many incredible movie

1947
01:36:46,493 --> 01:36:49,933
Speaker 19: locations where you feel like you've just walked into the movie,

1948
01:36:49,973 --> 01:36:52,933
Speaker 19: particularly places like Mirabelle Gardens. You know where they did

1949
01:36:52,933 --> 01:36:57,413
Speaker 19: the do rey Me piece in the movie. It is

1950
01:36:57,573 --> 01:37:01,533
Speaker 19: just as it was back in nineteen sixty five. Non

1951
01:37:01,573 --> 01:37:06,093
Speaker 19: Burg Abbey. There are still twenty seven Benedictine nuns in

1952
01:37:06,133 --> 01:37:09,453
Speaker 19: that abby and even though you can't actually see much

1953
01:37:09,493 --> 01:37:12,133
Speaker 19: of the abbey, you can go inside the church and

1954
01:37:12,173 --> 01:37:13,853
Speaker 19: if you go there at six forty five in the

1955
01:37:13,853 --> 01:37:16,693
Speaker 19: morning jet you can actually hear the nuns perform near

1956
01:37:16,773 --> 01:37:18,933
Speaker 19: daily Gregorian chants.

1957
01:37:19,093 --> 01:37:21,133
Speaker 3: Maria not included, I have.

1958
01:37:21,093 --> 01:37:27,253
Speaker 2: To say, also countless time. So what about dining destinations

1959
01:37:27,293 --> 01:37:29,293
Speaker 2: where is good for a taste of Salzburg.

1960
01:37:30,253 --> 01:37:33,453
Speaker 19: Yes, well, aside from binging on mosart balls, it's hard

1961
01:37:33,493 --> 01:37:36,733
Speaker 19: to be stiff to scaleless and pizza. Now, these are

1962
01:37:36,773 --> 01:37:40,253
Speaker 19: the sellers of Saint Peter's Abbey and it may well

1963
01:37:40,293 --> 01:37:43,693
Speaker 19: be the oldest operating restaurant in Europe. So you've got

1964
01:37:43,693 --> 01:37:48,973
Speaker 19: this sort of like cave like cloister setting in this

1965
01:37:49,093 --> 01:37:52,773
Speaker 19: restaurant and they have been serving diner's jack since eight

1966
01:37:52,973 --> 01:37:59,773
Speaker 19: hundred and three. Ad isn't that craze? They do really

1967
01:37:59,853 --> 01:38:04,533
Speaker 19: good schnitzel with parsley potatoes and cranberry confie. Really good

1968
01:38:04,573 --> 01:38:07,853
Speaker 19: spinish dumplings, by the way, But wherever you dine in

1969
01:38:07,893 --> 01:38:13,053
Speaker 19: the city, Salzburger knock on is a staple dessert that

1970
01:38:13,093 --> 01:38:17,533
Speaker 19: you've got to absolutely stuff yourself with. So this is

1971
01:38:17,613 --> 01:38:22,933
Speaker 19: this gigantic sweet soup fle It salutes the three peaks

1972
01:38:23,053 --> 01:38:27,693
Speaker 19: that backdrop the city, and it's got cranberry confee icing

1973
01:38:27,813 --> 01:38:31,693
Speaker 19: sugar topped. It's so big the souflay i reckon you

1974
01:38:31,693 --> 01:38:33,173
Speaker 19: could virtually ski jump off it.

1975
01:38:33,173 --> 01:38:34,133
Speaker 3: It is just amazing.

1976
01:38:34,213 --> 01:38:37,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so good so beyond town, do you have

1977
01:38:37,053 --> 01:38:39,133
Speaker 2: any recommended excursions?

1978
01:38:40,133 --> 01:38:40,373
Speaker 3: Yes.

1979
01:38:40,413 --> 01:38:41,973
Speaker 19: Well, when I was there a couple of weeks ago

1980
01:38:42,013 --> 01:38:46,773
Speaker 19: with Trafalgar, we jaunted to the Bejeweled Lakes district of Austria.

1981
01:38:46,813 --> 01:38:50,173
Speaker 19: Absolutely stunning, very much like the Southern Lakes of New

1982
01:38:50,213 --> 01:38:53,533
Speaker 19: Zealands because they glacially fed, so you get those very

1983
01:38:53,613 --> 01:38:55,973
Speaker 19: vivid turquoise and milky blue colors.

1984
01:38:56,173 --> 01:38:58,493
Speaker 3: One of the best spots is Munsie.

1985
01:38:59,173 --> 01:39:02,893
Speaker 19: It's a church there, gorgeous Benedicting church was where the

1986
01:39:02,973 --> 01:39:05,213
Speaker 19: marriage of Maria and the Baron was filmed. And the

1987
01:39:05,293 --> 01:39:08,333
Speaker 19: sound of music. But every summer I laughed about this.

1988
01:39:08,413 --> 01:39:12,573
Speaker 19: There's a Saudi shake. He jets into Monzi every summer

1989
01:39:12,933 --> 01:39:15,133
Speaker 19: to his lake house and he brings with him twenty

1990
01:39:15,293 --> 01:39:16,533
Speaker 19: three wives.

1991
01:39:16,733 --> 01:39:18,133
Speaker 3: That would take some wrangling.

1992
01:39:18,213 --> 01:39:18,453
Speaker 4: Jack.

1993
01:39:21,253 --> 01:39:24,893
Speaker 19: Just across the border from Salzburg into Germany and the

1994
01:39:24,933 --> 01:39:28,973
Speaker 19: Bavarian Alps, we took a ride up Germany's highest mountain road.

1995
01:39:29,133 --> 01:39:34,413
Speaker 19: It takes you up two thousand meters from Auba Salzburg.

1996
01:39:34,053 --> 01:39:37,373
Speaker 2: Oh Man, two thousand Okay, it is pretty high, like

1997
01:39:37,413 --> 01:39:40,773
Speaker 2: Mount Hutt really are ye? Yes, Like that's kind of

1998
01:39:40,813 --> 01:39:43,173
Speaker 2: where Hitler's Eagle's nest is local today.

1999
01:39:44,013 --> 01:39:47,493
Speaker 19: Yeah, it is, and that's really the attraction as such.

2000
01:39:48,053 --> 01:39:51,213
Speaker 19: It is still standing. Allied bomb is mis hitting it.

2001
01:39:51,293 --> 01:39:53,453
Speaker 19: They wanted to knock it out, but they missed it.

2002
01:39:54,333 --> 01:39:57,693
Speaker 19: But it was the fiftieth birthday present from Hitler's in

2003
01:39:57,733 --> 01:40:04,893
Speaker 19: a circle and it's perched alone amid alpine splendor. It's

2004
01:40:05,093 --> 01:40:08,213
Speaker 19: kind of like a Bond villain's leah when you first

2005
01:40:08,453 --> 01:40:11,373
Speaker 19: clap eyes on it, this lodge just looming out of

2006
01:40:11,413 --> 01:40:12,253
Speaker 19: the mountaintops.

2007
01:40:12,573 --> 01:40:15,053
Speaker 3: So today it's a restaurant and they have got a.

2008
01:40:15,013 --> 01:40:19,133
Speaker 19: Memorial war there decrying the abject horrors of its previous owner.

2009
01:40:19,173 --> 01:40:23,253
Speaker 3: But the setting itself. Check it seriously is pinched yourself stuff.

2010
01:40:23,813 --> 01:40:26,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds really interesting. Okay, cool, Hey, thank you

2011
01:40:26,053 --> 01:40:28,973
Speaker 2: so much, Mike. We'll make sure all of Mike's advice

2012
01:40:29,293 --> 01:40:32,133
Speaker 2: on soaking up Saltz book is on the news Talks.

2013
01:40:32,133 --> 01:40:34,333
Speaker 2: He'd be website Newstalks, he'd be dot code Oliens ed

2014
01:40:34,413 --> 01:40:37,333
Speaker 2: Ford slash Lifestyle. You'll be able to find his article

2015
01:40:37,413 --> 01:40:39,933
Speaker 2: right there. It is twenty eight minutes to twelve.

2016
01:40:43,533 --> 01:40:47,453
Speaker 1: Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team

2017
01:40:47,933 --> 01:40:49,013
Speaker 1: on Newstalks, b.

2018
01:40:59,013 --> 01:41:08,773
Speaker 2: Gets News Talk. It'd be twenty five minutes to twelve.

2019
01:41:09,813 --> 01:41:11,813
Speaker 2: Jason Pine is behind the make this afternoon for a

2020
01:41:11,893 --> 01:41:16,773
Speaker 2: weekend sport killed a piny up. Hey, let's start off

2021
01:41:16,813 --> 01:41:20,053
Speaker 2: with Super Rugby and some interesting results last night. I mean,

2022
01:41:20,053 --> 01:41:22,253
Speaker 2: the Chiefs ended up running away with things at Bay Oval.

2023
01:41:22,293 --> 01:41:24,693
Speaker 2: But I cannot get over that try from Harry Potter

2024
01:41:24,773 --> 01:41:27,493
Speaker 2: from the Force. I know, it's always weird when you

2025
01:41:27,533 --> 01:41:31,693
Speaker 2: say that. I mean, I know Alisa Simpson as well,

2026
01:41:31,733 --> 01:41:33,453
Speaker 2: so you know. Anyway, it's funny how they think heaven.

2027
01:41:34,613 --> 01:41:36,813
Speaker 2: But there's I think a fear bit of concern in

2028
01:41:36,853 --> 01:41:38,693
Speaker 2: the Blues camp with that result this morning.

2029
01:41:39,133 --> 01:41:42,453
Speaker 20: Yeah, I would say so, it's kind of I mean,

2030
01:41:42,933 --> 01:41:45,853
Speaker 20: they're not necessarily drinking at the Last Chance Saloon, but

2031
01:41:45,893 --> 01:41:47,773
Speaker 20: they do have to get a bit of a wriggle

2032
01:41:47,853 --> 01:41:50,573
Speaker 20: on the Blues. You look at their runnin though, Jack,

2033
01:41:50,613 --> 01:41:55,133
Speaker 20: and it's not the most onerous the Force, the Drewermana,

2034
01:41:55,173 --> 01:41:59,093
Speaker 20: Pacifica and the Warratars. So on their day the Blues

2035
01:41:59,173 --> 01:42:01,853
Speaker 20: can beat all four of those sides with the bonus points.

2036
01:42:01,893 --> 01:42:05,013
Speaker 20: So there are still twenty points on the table for

2037
01:42:05,053 --> 01:42:07,493
Speaker 20: them to look to. And you look at the table

2038
01:42:07,493 --> 01:42:09,653
Speaker 20: at the moment, and even though they're ninth, there are

2039
01:42:09,733 --> 01:42:12,733
Speaker 20: only four points outside the top six, So that's the

2040
01:42:12,853 --> 01:42:15,333
Speaker 20: rose tinted part of it. The other part of this, though,

2041
01:42:15,413 --> 01:42:18,013
Speaker 20: is that now they've lost to the Crusaders and the

2042
01:42:18,053 --> 01:42:20,893
Speaker 20: Reds and consecutive weeks. Last week, I think they were

2043
01:42:20,933 --> 01:42:23,893
Speaker 20: probably a little bit unlucky in some ways not to

2044
01:42:23,933 --> 01:42:26,373
Speaker 20: come away with the win against the Crusaders, but I

2045
01:42:26,453 --> 01:42:29,773
Speaker 20: think they were second best last night. I watched large

2046
01:42:29,813 --> 01:42:31,893
Speaker 20: parts of that game and I wasn't really that impressed

2047
01:42:31,933 --> 01:42:33,453
Speaker 20: with the Blues that I'm honest with you, So.

2048
01:42:33,853 --> 01:42:35,533
Speaker 2: Look, they do have a bit of work to do.

2049
01:42:36,173 --> 01:42:38,573
Speaker 20: The Chiefs, on the other hand, went to Bayoval and

2050
01:42:39,893 --> 01:42:43,653
Speaker 20: almost ran up a crickets core at Bayoval, yeah fifty six.

2051
01:42:44,213 --> 01:42:47,613
Speaker 20: I was so impressed with Josh Jacob at first five

2052
01:42:47,653 --> 01:42:49,773
Speaker 20: and for Damien McKenzie, who's got a bit of a

2053
01:42:49,773 --> 01:42:52,293
Speaker 20: hand injury. A guy like Josh jakins interesting, you know

2054
01:42:52,533 --> 01:42:55,613
Speaker 20: he went, he's at the Chiefs. He sees Damien McKenzie,

2055
01:42:55,653 --> 01:42:58,933
Speaker 20: one of the best first fives in the world, almost

2056
01:42:58,973 --> 01:43:00,973
Speaker 20: blocking his way to the team. A lot of other

2057
01:43:00,973 --> 01:43:03,013
Speaker 20: guys have gone, you know what, I'll go somewhere else

2058
01:43:03,013 --> 01:43:06,173
Speaker 20: and tryma like somewhere else. Instead, he stayed. He's played

2059
01:43:06,173 --> 01:43:08,933
Speaker 20: in every game this year, all ten of them, six

2060
01:43:08,973 --> 01:43:12,133
Speaker 20: starts four off the bench, and has probably become an

2061
01:43:12,133 --> 01:43:15,253
Speaker 20: immeasurably better player just by being in the company of

2062
01:43:15,293 --> 01:43:16,093
Speaker 20: Damien McKenzie.

2063
01:43:16,133 --> 01:43:18,253
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, no, very much. So I agree. Well,

2064
01:43:18,253 --> 01:43:21,613
Speaker 2: I think the premious plate, I mean, mathematically you would

2065
01:43:21,653 --> 01:43:25,853
Speaker 2: have to say it is like ninety nine point ninety

2066
01:43:25,893 --> 01:43:29,133
Speaker 2: seven percent Auckland f C's already. But tomorrow is of

2067
01:43:29,173 --> 01:43:31,733
Speaker 2: course a big match where hopefully they will sew that

2068
01:43:31,893 --> 01:43:34,493
Speaker 2: up comprehensively and we won't need to debate it anymore.

2069
01:43:35,293 --> 01:43:36,173
Speaker 2: How do you feeling about that?

2070
01:43:36,613 --> 01:43:36,813
Speaker 14: Oh?

2071
01:43:36,853 --> 01:43:40,733
Speaker 20: Look, I'm delighted for the playing group, delighted for the

2072
01:43:40,733 --> 01:43:44,533
Speaker 20: coaching staff, delighted for everybody associated with a football club really,

2073
01:43:44,573 --> 01:43:46,253
Speaker 20: and I've chatted a lot about this, Jack. You know,

2074
01:43:46,293 --> 01:43:50,293
Speaker 20: what they've done very quickly is engaged the football community

2075
01:43:50,373 --> 01:43:53,093
Speaker 20: of the Auckland region where was clearly waiting for a

2076
01:43:53,133 --> 01:43:57,093
Speaker 20: team like this to come along, and have have done brilliantly.

2077
01:43:57,133 --> 01:44:00,653
Speaker 20: I mean, two losses in twenty four games, crowds of

2078
01:44:00,693 --> 01:44:03,773
Speaker 20: an average of sort of sixteen seventeen thousand. They're talking

2079
01:44:03,813 --> 01:44:06,853
Speaker 20: about another sal out there tomorrow to watch the Premier's

2080
01:44:06,893 --> 01:44:09,733
Speaker 20: Plate actually being lifted by the team. I mean, you're right,

2081
01:44:09,773 --> 01:44:13,693
Speaker 20: it's almost it's almost certain now I know the Premier's

2082
01:44:13,733 --> 01:44:17,053
Speaker 20: plate will certainly be at go Media Stadium tomorrow. So

2083
01:44:17,093 --> 01:44:18,653
Speaker 20: if they do complete the job they've got to get

2084
01:44:18,653 --> 01:44:21,693
Speaker 20: only got to get a points against against the bottom side.

2085
01:44:22,253 --> 01:44:24,133
Speaker 20: You know that they should be lifting that silver where

2086
01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:27,213
Speaker 20: all things being equal, around seven o'clock tomorrow evening. So yeah,

2087
01:44:27,253 --> 01:44:29,493
Speaker 20: I can't wait for that. Well, we'll do a lot

2088
01:44:29,493 --> 01:44:31,813
Speaker 20: a lot about that on the show tomorrow. But yeah, no,

2089
01:44:31,853 --> 01:44:32,853
Speaker 20: good on the mate, good on them.

2090
01:44:32,933 --> 01:44:33,533
Speaker 2: What's on the show?

2091
01:44:33,533 --> 01:44:36,693
Speaker 20: This doesn'tnoon, butsual Josh Jacob, I mention him because I'm

2092
01:44:36,693 --> 01:44:38,013
Speaker 20: going to chat to him this afternoon. I want to

2093
01:44:38,013 --> 01:44:39,533
Speaker 20: find out about whether he thought, hey, you know what,

2094
01:44:39,613 --> 01:44:42,413
Speaker 20: I'll move away or or whether he always was going

2095
01:44:42,453 --> 01:44:45,853
Speaker 20: to stay. So we'll talk to Josh Jacob. Adam Pompey

2096
01:44:45,893 --> 01:44:49,053
Speaker 20: out of the Warriors Goodwin in christ Church last night. Yeah,

2097
01:44:49,053 --> 01:44:51,453
Speaker 20: a couple of tries for Adam Pompey. I'm sure he's pleased.

2098
01:44:51,453 --> 01:44:53,133
Speaker 20: So he'll have a chat to us. And the big

2099
01:44:53,133 --> 01:44:56,253
Speaker 20: story of the week is this New Zealand cricket thing. Jack,

2100
01:44:56,333 --> 01:45:02,213
Speaker 20: you know, the the the investments in the North American franchise,

2101
01:45:02,533 --> 01:45:05,893
Speaker 20: the Major League Cricket franchise. What does this mean for

2102
01:45:05,973 --> 01:45:08,253
Speaker 20: the cricket fan. I've heard a lot of chat about,

2103
01:45:08,293 --> 01:45:10,413
Speaker 20: you know, what it means for New Zealand cricket and

2104
01:45:10,453 --> 01:45:14,093
Speaker 20: their balance sheet, the opportunities for players, for us as fans,

2105
01:45:14,093 --> 01:45:16,493
Speaker 20: what does it actually mean? And some other bits and

2106
01:45:16,493 --> 01:45:18,893
Speaker 20: pieces too. So the Man at the top of the tree,

2107
01:45:18,933 --> 01:45:21,733
Speaker 20: Scott winning just after midday on that and one of

2108
01:45:21,733 --> 01:45:25,773
Speaker 20: my favorite sporting events every year, the World Snooker Championship.

2109
01:45:26,013 --> 01:45:27,893
Speaker 20: Unfortunately you can't watch it here in New Zealand unless

2110
01:45:27,893 --> 01:45:30,133
Speaker 20: you buy a subscription, which I've done. But we're going

2111
01:45:30,173 --> 01:45:32,133
Speaker 20: to get to the Crucible after two o'clock to chat

2112
01:45:32,173 --> 01:45:34,573
Speaker 20: about the first week and prospects for the second week

2113
01:45:34,573 --> 01:45:35,853
Speaker 20: of the World Sticker champions.

2114
01:45:35,853 --> 01:45:37,773
Speaker 2: Very good, Oh busy show this afternoon, Thank you sir.

2115
01:45:38,053 --> 01:45:40,533
Speaker 2: That's Jason Pine with us right after the midday news

2116
01:45:40,573 --> 01:45:42,933
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2118
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Speaker 9: And Sarah Morgan is married to Bob Miller and they're

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Speaker 9: having a child that they have a child together, but

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Speaker 9: Sarah catches Bob having a one night stand and immediately

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01:46:20,933 --> 01:46:24,173
Speaker 9: files the divorce and custody of their daughter. And then

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01:46:24,333 --> 01:46:26,173
Speaker 9: mixed in this the story as a corrupt cop and

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01:46:26,213 --> 01:46:30,813
Speaker 9: he's responsible for some pretty disastrous investigation in Sarah's past

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Speaker 9: and now he's been arrested for a dui resulting in death,

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Speaker 9: and Sarah turns out to be his lawyer. And then

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Speaker 9: there's Stacy Howard and she's the woman at the center

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01:46:41,373 --> 01:46:45,213
Speaker 9: of Sarah's divorce and she's vanished and Bob accuses Sarah

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01:46:45,213 --> 01:46:49,053
Speaker 9: of being involved, and so the stakes are really raised.

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01:46:48,773 --> 01:46:49,293
Speaker 14: At this point.

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01:46:49,373 --> 01:46:52,813
Speaker 9: Is Sarah doing the manipulating or is her ex husband?

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01:46:53,013 --> 01:46:55,973
Speaker 9: So you get this great domestic thriller, and it's quite

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01:46:55,973 --> 01:46:59,973
Speaker 9: twisted with some very suspicious individuals and some quite unhinged behavior,

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01:47:00,013 --> 01:47:02,573
Speaker 9: I have to say. And it's written in multiple points

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01:47:02,573 --> 01:47:05,813
Speaker 9: of view, so you're never quite sure where the story's

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01:47:05,853 --> 01:47:08,413
Speaker 9: going or who's telling the truth. So yeah, lots of

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01:47:08,533 --> 01:47:10,813
Speaker 9: kind of read hearings thrown in there, but yeah, good story.

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Speaker 4: Cool.

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01:47:11,253 --> 01:47:13,813
Speaker 2: Okay, that's the Perfect Divorces by Geneva Rose. You've also

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01:47:13,853 --> 01:47:16,293
Speaker 2: read Paris Express by Emma Donahue.

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Speaker 3: So this is.

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Speaker 9: Based on a historical event, an eighteen ninety five train

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01:47:20,733 --> 01:47:24,893
Speaker 9: disaster at the Paris Last train station, and it captured

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01:47:24,933 --> 01:47:27,853
Speaker 9: at this disaster had been captured for history and a.

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01:47:27,853 --> 01:47:28,893
Speaker 14: Series of photographs.

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01:47:29,413 --> 01:47:31,093
Speaker 6: But the story begins.

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01:47:30,773 --> 01:47:34,053
Speaker 9: At eight thirty am with an embankment at Granville station

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01:47:34,333 --> 01:47:36,973
Speaker 9: on the Normandy coast, and as the train moves along

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01:47:37,013 --> 01:47:39,813
Speaker 9: on its three hundred and fifty kilometer journey towards Paris,

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01:47:40,133 --> 01:47:42,813
Speaker 9: you get the stations and the people that are boarding,

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01:47:42,853 --> 01:47:45,333
Speaker 9: who are all imagined, but you get rail workers and

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01:47:45,453 --> 01:47:48,893
Speaker 9: families and artists and writers to this whole gambit of

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01:47:48,933 --> 01:47:49,893
Speaker 9: French society.

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01:47:50,053 --> 01:47:51,733
Speaker 13: And then so because of.

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01:47:51,693 --> 01:47:54,053
Speaker 9: That, you get a lot of commentary on different things

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01:47:54,053 --> 01:47:58,173
Speaker 9: that are going out on the in French in France

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01:47:58,213 --> 01:48:01,333
Speaker 9: at the time. So about apperilysm and economic instability and

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01:48:01,413 --> 01:48:05,533
Speaker 9: gender and class and racism and the emergency of new technology.

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01:48:05,613 --> 01:48:08,253
Speaker 9: So these carrots is on the trainer weaved into this

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01:48:08,373 --> 01:48:11,253
Speaker 9: narrative in quite symbolic of the time. And as the

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01:48:11,293 --> 01:48:13,853
Speaker 9: train there's Paris, the action becomes much more fast paced,

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01:48:13,893 --> 01:48:16,613
Speaker 9: and the commentary on the characters' lives becomes more intense,

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01:48:16,973 --> 01:48:20,693
Speaker 9: and motivations are revealed and author humor. Em Donahue is

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01:48:20,853 --> 01:48:23,573
Speaker 9: really good at taking a piece of history and winding

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01:48:23,613 --> 01:48:26,373
Speaker 9: it into a really interesting novel, which is what you

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01:48:26,413 --> 01:48:27,613
Speaker 9: get with The Paris Express.

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01:48:27,773 --> 01:48:28,013
Speaker 4: Cool.

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01:48:28,093 --> 01:48:31,253
Speaker 2: Okay, that's Paris Express by Emma Donahue. Catherine's first book,

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01:48:31,253 --> 01:48:34,493
Speaker 2: The Perfect Divorce by Geneva Rose. We'll have all of

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01:48:34,533 --> 01:48:36,933
Speaker 2: the details for both of those up on the news

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01:48:36,933 --> 01:48:38,733
Speaker 2: talks he'd be website, and a couple of minutes, We've

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01:48:38,733 --> 01:48:41,733
Speaker 2: got new music for you by Samantha Fish.

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01:48:41,893 --> 01:48:44,333
Speaker 1: It's called it a twelve, giving you the inside scoop

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01:48:44,413 --> 01:48:47,013
Speaker 1: on all you need to Know Saturday Mornings with Jack

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01:48:47,093 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 1: Dame and Bpure dot co dot nz for high quality

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01:48:50,373 --> 01:48:56,133
Speaker 1: supplements use talks'd be.

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01:49:17,173 --> 01:49:21,013
Speaker 2: This is paper Doll. It's a song by Samantha Fish.

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01:49:21,013 --> 01:49:23,453
Speaker 2: She's got a new album called Paper Doll and Estelle.

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01:49:23,533 --> 01:49:25,853
Speaker 2: Clifford has been listening. Hey is Stelle, How are you doing?

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01:49:26,413 --> 01:49:26,933
Speaker 4: Yeah? Good?

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01:49:26,973 --> 01:49:27,813
Speaker 22: What a fine?

2190
01:49:28,093 --> 01:49:32,013
Speaker 2: Well, so, okay, this is bad. This is bad. So

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01:49:32,173 --> 01:49:34,333
Speaker 2: you say, what a find. I've just got a kick

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01:49:34,413 --> 01:49:37,973
Speaker 2: from my dad, Jack. I have been raving on to

2193
01:49:38,053 --> 01:49:41,533
Speaker 2: you for the last eighteen months about Samantha Fish exclamation mark,

2194
01:49:41,613 --> 01:49:45,253
Speaker 2: exclamation mark, exclamation mark. You should see her play cigar

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01:49:45,693 --> 01:49:49,933
Speaker 2: cigar box, guitar slide, exclamation mark, exclamation mark she played

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01:49:49,933 --> 01:49:53,333
Speaker 2: in New Zealand and twenty thirteen exclamation mark, exclamation mark,

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01:49:53,413 --> 01:49:57,853
Speaker 2: exclamation mark. I mean he'sn't bad about it at all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:49:57,893 --> 01:50:00,573
Speaker 2: he's not at all annoyed. Well, I would gently remind

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Speaker 2: my dad that once upon a time, many years ago,

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01:50:02,653 --> 01:50:04,093
Speaker 2: I went to him and said, had there's this new

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01:50:04,133 --> 01:50:06,013
Speaker 2: band called Coldplay who sound quite good. I think we

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01:50:06,093 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 2: might like at them, And he said they're rubbish. And

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01:50:08,333 --> 01:50:10,533
Speaker 2: then about two years later he came to me and said, oh, actually,

2204
01:50:10,613 --> 01:50:12,693
Speaker 2: this band Coldplay sounds right. You should listen to them.

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01:50:12,733 --> 01:50:16,853
Speaker 2: So I consider that square, Dad, consider a vibe. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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01:50:16,973 --> 01:50:18,933
Speaker 2: so yes, sometimes for those of us who.

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01:50:18,773 --> 01:50:22,733
Speaker 22: Are yes outside your family, you need a little nudge

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01:50:22,773 --> 01:50:25,613
Speaker 22: outside the game. Samantha Fish is this amazing based in

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01:50:25,693 --> 01:50:33,293
Speaker 22: Louisiana rock chick. She's actually bluesy vibe. Yeah yeah, right right, right,

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01:50:33,373 --> 01:50:36,013
Speaker 22: right right, got ya. But but but this album here,

2211
01:50:36,053 --> 01:50:37,933
Speaker 22: there's a bit more of that rock stuff and yes,

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01:50:37,973 --> 01:50:42,453
Speaker 22: that whole box guitar thing like wild and I think

2213
01:50:42,493 --> 01:50:45,253
Speaker 22: where she has really found her feet Samantha Fish is

2214
01:50:45,293 --> 01:50:48,973
Speaker 22: that she she does a really incredible live shows because

2215
01:50:48,973 --> 01:50:51,573
Speaker 22: she's playing instruments like that that you're like, whoa this is?

2216
01:50:52,453 --> 01:50:53,053
Speaker 15: This is fire.

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01:50:53,173 --> 01:50:55,613
Speaker 2: So just to be get a cigar like a cbchas

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01:50:55,853 --> 01:50:57,893
Speaker 2: like it's like a guitar made out of a cigar

2219
01:50:57,933 --> 01:50:59,613
Speaker 2: box basically, yeah, totally like.

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01:50:59,533 --> 01:51:01,413
Speaker 22: That's how they made instruments right out of whatever you

2221
01:51:01,413 --> 01:51:03,453
Speaker 22: could find, and then it makes us really cool sound

2222
01:51:03,453 --> 01:51:05,693
Speaker 22: and then you you catapult on that. I think that

2223
01:51:05,773 --> 01:51:08,053
Speaker 22: from the light the live sound that she's got, she's

2224
01:51:08,093 --> 01:51:10,573
Speaker 22: now managed to put that into an album. I think

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01:51:10,573 --> 01:51:12,573
Speaker 22: the last couple of albums I've listened to hers, they've

2226
01:51:12,653 --> 01:51:15,173
Speaker 22: had this about them, but they haven't been quite as

2227
01:51:15,693 --> 01:51:18,533
Speaker 22: sort of raw and full on. I think also with

2228
01:51:18,613 --> 01:51:21,533
Speaker 22: this album, she has recorded it with her touring band,

2229
01:51:22,493 --> 01:51:24,693
Speaker 22: so they're used to playing live together. So there's a

2230
01:51:24,693 --> 01:51:26,813
Speaker 22: bit more of that riff and jamming kind of sound

2231
01:51:26,893 --> 01:51:29,613
Speaker 22: to it, which I think is really cool, and a

2232
01:51:29,693 --> 01:51:32,453
Speaker 22: lot of it just has that absolute energy where she's

2233
01:51:32,573 --> 01:51:35,373
Speaker 22: just powering it out. She wanted, she said she wanted

2234
01:51:35,373 --> 01:51:37,853
Speaker 22: to just sing a lungs out. She just wanted to

2235
01:51:37,853 --> 01:51:39,653
Speaker 22: do an album where she just cranked it and went

2236
01:51:39,693 --> 01:51:43,013
Speaker 22: for her and so she's definitely achieved that. There's a

2237
01:51:43,013 --> 01:51:45,173
Speaker 22: little bit of a connection here where one of the songs,

2238
01:51:45,213 --> 01:51:47,013
Speaker 22: I just can't get this out of my head because

2239
01:51:47,013 --> 01:51:50,013
Speaker 22: if you ask me, the songs called don't say it,

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01:51:50,693 --> 01:51:52,213
Speaker 22: but I think it has a little bit of a

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01:51:52,253 --> 01:51:54,253
Speaker 22: crowded house kind of sound behind it. We've got a

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01:51:54,253 --> 01:52:01,933
Speaker 22: little We've got a little bit if you want to, Yeah,

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01:52:02,933 --> 01:52:07,653
Speaker 22: dar well, like I just got the sawmy with you.

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01:52:08,093 --> 01:52:09,373
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does.

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01:52:09,413 --> 01:52:11,893
Speaker 22: You're right, definitely, And I think it stood out because

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01:52:11,893 --> 01:52:14,893
Speaker 22: it has that little, rolling, pretty melody guitar, with the

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01:52:14,933 --> 01:52:17,093
Speaker 22: rest of the album has a lot more of that real,

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01:52:17,213 --> 01:52:19,293
Speaker 22: going hard kind of guitar. But I was like, oh,

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01:52:19,333 --> 01:52:21,373
Speaker 22: there you go. I mean, if she's been influenced slightly

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01:52:21,413 --> 01:52:23,133
Speaker 22: by our crowded house, will take it, won't we?

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01:52:23,533 --> 01:52:23,853
Speaker 4: Yes?

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01:52:24,173 --> 01:52:27,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that I think it's gonna sound yeah, yeah.

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01:52:27,773 --> 01:52:30,293
Speaker 22: Yeah, But everything else she really has got this. I

2254
01:52:30,293 --> 01:52:32,493
Speaker 22: think her lyrics you can really connect to us with

2255
01:52:32,573 --> 01:52:35,493
Speaker 22: what she's saying about sometimes the world isn't clear, but

2256
01:52:35,493 --> 01:52:38,493
Speaker 22: I'm finding my own path and pushing on through. That

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01:52:38,693 --> 01:52:40,653
Speaker 22: is on one of my favorite songs that's on this album.

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01:52:40,813 --> 01:52:45,213
Speaker 22: I really I love hearing her thundering delivery. I think

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01:52:45,213 --> 01:52:46,933
Speaker 22: there's the best way to kind of put it, but

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01:52:46,973 --> 01:52:51,253
Speaker 22: it still has that old school Americana undertone, you know,

2261
01:52:51,293 --> 01:52:54,293
Speaker 22: but like with a fresh female lead. And to me,

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01:52:54,373 --> 01:52:56,693
Speaker 22: she's just as strong vocally as she is with like

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01:52:56,893 --> 01:53:01,133
Speaker 22: slick electric guitar runs. And also, I don't think you

2264
01:53:01,173 --> 01:53:04,133
Speaker 22: necessarily have to know her back catalog like bless your Dad,

2265
01:53:04,653 --> 01:53:07,333
Speaker 22: go back if you can, but you don't have to

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01:53:07,333 --> 01:53:09,213
Speaker 22: go that. You can jump straight in with this album,

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01:53:09,613 --> 01:53:12,093
Speaker 22: and I think really enjoy what she's got to say

2268
01:53:12,293 --> 01:53:13,573
Speaker 22: and what she's sounding.

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01:53:13,613 --> 01:53:13,773
Speaker 3: Like.

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01:53:14,053 --> 01:53:15,613
Speaker 22: She needs to come to New Zealand. I'd really love

2271
01:53:15,653 --> 01:53:18,293
Speaker 22: to see her lie because I love this jamming sort

2272
01:53:18,293 --> 01:53:22,613
Speaker 22: of rock blues thing that she's got going on. Yeah yeah,

2273
01:53:23,053 --> 01:53:26,813
Speaker 22: twenty thirteen, Like that's kind of a long time.

2274
01:53:27,293 --> 01:53:29,213
Speaker 2: Well, Dad's just teaching me again. To say. She is

2275
01:53:29,253 --> 01:53:30,853
Speaker 2: a very big dad seems to know a lot about

2276
01:53:30,853 --> 01:53:33,853
Speaker 2: Samantha version and she's got a very busy work schedule.

2277
01:53:33,933 --> 01:53:36,733
Speaker 2: So hopefully if she's doing a lot, then she can.

2278
01:53:36,773 --> 01:53:38,693
Speaker 22: Can get is her support crew or something?

2279
01:53:38,813 --> 01:53:41,813
Speaker 2: Well yes, yeah, I mean I think he is a

2280
01:53:41,813 --> 01:53:45,253
Speaker 2: big fan, maybe involved with the Nelson Tasman Blues Club

2281
01:53:45,293 --> 01:53:47,573
Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, so there you go. If she's going

2282
01:53:47,613 --> 01:53:49,493
Speaker 2: to perform anywhere, there you go, Dad, I'll put in

2283
01:53:49,493 --> 01:53:52,653
Speaker 2: a word people, Yeah, there we go, get her performing

2284
01:53:52,653 --> 01:53:54,293
Speaker 2: a Yeah.

2285
01:53:54,293 --> 01:53:56,733
Speaker 22: The single Fortune Teller is a highlight. It has this

2286
01:53:56,773 --> 01:53:59,693
Speaker 22: really cool drop in the chorus, quite badass tone, and

2287
01:53:59,693 --> 01:54:02,133
Speaker 22: then halfway through the song it completely changes tempo and

2288
01:54:02,173 --> 01:54:04,093
Speaker 22: you think you're in a different track, but it's the

2289
01:54:04,133 --> 01:54:07,653
Speaker 22: same one. So definitely get amongst Fortune. Don't say it

2290
01:54:07,733 --> 01:54:09,813
Speaker 22: with the whole crowded house kind of vibe. But also

2291
01:54:09,933 --> 01:54:12,173
Speaker 22: my favorite on the album is called I'm Done Running.

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01:54:12,573 --> 01:54:15,773
Speaker 22: Oh yeah, cool, absolute standout. It's kind of been one

2293
01:54:15,773 --> 01:54:17,613
Speaker 22: of the lead singles, and I think it's one that

2294
01:54:17,693 --> 01:54:19,373
Speaker 22: everyone can can get amongst.

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01:54:19,373 --> 01:54:21,173
Speaker 2: It's really good, right, that's the one we've picked out

2296
01:54:21,173 --> 01:54:23,533
Speaker 2: to play next or play them. Yeah, that's cool. So

2297
01:54:23,573 --> 01:54:24,173
Speaker 2: what do you give it.

2298
01:54:25,053 --> 01:54:26,573
Speaker 22: I'm giving a Oh this is.

2299
01:54:26,493 --> 01:54:28,573
Speaker 2: Hard knowing that my dad is listening.

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01:54:29,573 --> 01:54:31,053
Speaker 22: Oh shall we just give them a team?

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01:54:31,093 --> 01:54:31,653
Speaker 3: Should we make them?

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01:54:31,693 --> 01:54:34,133
Speaker 2: Chell proud of himself. He found this for you, John

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01:54:34,493 --> 01:54:37,573
Speaker 2: found this. There you go, Thank you, Dad. Ten out

2304
01:54:37,573 --> 01:54:40,253
Speaker 2: of ten from a Style Clifford not at all influenced

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01:54:40,293 --> 01:54:43,613
Speaker 2: by your recommendation, but somewhat influenced by your recommendation if

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01:54:43,653 --> 01:54:46,293
Speaker 2: you like. Definitely a ten out of ten in Dad's books,

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01:54:46,533 --> 01:54:48,453
Speaker 2: and a ten out of ten and the steals as well.

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01:54:49,133 --> 01:54:50,693
Speaker 2: Looking forward to having a bit more of a listener

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01:54:50,693 --> 01:54:52,333
Speaker 2: in a couple of minutes. I'm sorry, Dad, I should

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01:54:52,333 --> 01:54:54,573
Speaker 2: have done it much earlier. Stelle, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure rock on Style Clifford is our music reviewer. Paper

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Speaker 2: Doll is the album from Samantha Fish at seven to twelve.

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Speaker 1: A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with

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Speaker 2: B We are being kicked out of here to make

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Speaker 2: way for Jason Pine and Weekend Sport this afternoon. Thank

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Speaker 2: you very much for tuning in and for all your

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01:55:18,013 --> 01:55:20,173
Speaker 2: messages this morning. Go to the news talks. He'd be

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Speaker 2: website for everything from our show, and thanks as always

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Speaker 2: to my wonderful producer Libby for doing all the tough stuff.

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01:55:25,853 --> 01:55:28,293
Speaker 2: We're gonna leave you with Samantha Fish. Her new album

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01:55:28,373 --> 01:55:54,653
Speaker 2: is Paper Doll. This is I'm done Running in the Mirror,

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Speaker 2: snuping clear.

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Speaker 1: But for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen

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Speaker 1: live to News Talks a B from nine am Saturday,

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