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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: The other big thing is that Nicola Willis went to

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Speaker 2: visitor visas to allow tourists to work in the country remotely.

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Speaker 2: They're called digital nomads and from today visitors who work

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Speaker 2: for overseas companies can do their remote work while holidaying

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Speaker 2: here for up to ninety days. The aim of the

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Speaker 2: government is to get visitors to stay here for longer

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Speaker 2: and to spend more and they believe there are many,

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Speaker 2: but they don't know the numbers. Tim Alp is the

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Speaker 2: managing director of Liiloh, which is a traveler accommodation provider.

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Speaker 2: He joins, are now hurt, Tim Gay Andrew, how are

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Speaker 2: you going good? Is this much of a change? Surely

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Speaker 2: people just bring in their computer and start working anyway,

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Speaker 2: and we don't know whether they're a digital nomad or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's definitely the case. We've seen a big spike

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Speaker 1: in that across our properties post COVID, A lot of

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Speaker 1: people coming in and we call them pleasure So they

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Speaker 1: come in and they work for a couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: they stay and they look around the city and work

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Speaker 1: during the day and yeah, so it is there already.

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Speaker 1: But I definitely think this is a really good move

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Speaker 1: by the government.

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Speaker 2: Well, it makes it legal, it makes it you know,

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Speaker 2: it's not on the sneaky sneaky. But the question is

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Speaker 2: will this increase the numbers if we've already got the

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Speaker 2: numbers doing it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it will increase the numbers. I think

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Speaker 1: there's definitely a desire and if we can get the

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Speaker 1: word out there globally that you can come to New

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Speaker 1: Zealand and as you say, you can legally work and

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Speaker 1: travel and do your work while you're here, I think

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Speaker 1: that's a great thing. And so I think, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: will increase the numbers. To what degree we don't know,

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Speaker 1: but as I said, we're already starting to see it.

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Speaker 1: We're designing our properties around that so you can work

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Speaker 1: for wherever you are. And so I definitely think the

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Speaker 1: to work while their travel.

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Speaker 2: How would they know, I mean, how are we going

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Speaker 2: to tell them we're open for digital nomad business.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the biggest challenge I see, Andrew. So I

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Speaker 1: think you know, touris of New Zealand do a great

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Speaker 1: job promoting New Zealand on a pretty tight budget. We've

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Speaker 1: got to get out there. We've changed the working holiday visas,

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Speaker 1: We've changed this digital nomad's visa. We've done all this

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Speaker 1: great stuff, but we're nowver to tell the world. So

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Speaker 1: we've got to get out internationally. We've got to go

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Speaker 1: to big trade shows. We've got to be telling people

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Speaker 1: that actually New Zealand is a great destination for that

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Speaker 1: can come and you can work and travel at the

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Speaker 1: same time.

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Speaker 2: All right, and what we're a what eighty six percent

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Speaker 2: of what happened before for COVID of wek just from

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Speaker 2: your own personal position from Lilo. Are our accommodation providers

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Speaker 2: getting by?

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Speaker 1: We need more? Definitely we're getting by, but it's we're

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Speaker 1: definitely not where we need to be. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think the big thing now is we need to get

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Speaker 1: more events. So things like Luke Comb's or All Blacks

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Speaker 1: Games and stuff at Eaton Park are huge for the

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Speaker 1: Auckland market. But I think if we can just keep

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Speaker 1: focusing on New Zealand should be the biggest export on

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Speaker 1: a tourism ship for New Zealand. And we said to

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Speaker 1: keep focusing on promoting ourselves globally turn out.

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Speaker 2: Managing director of LILO, I thank you for your time.

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