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Speaker 1: So we had that big meeting in Wellington last night,

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Speaker 1: the town meeting over the sewage and the water business

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Speaker 1: got quite heated at times. People willing to do you

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Speaker 1: not want to hear about it, and we don't want

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Speaker 1: to do We want the true We have an independent

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Speaker 1: review coming apparently, does that give you confidence? Find out

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Speaker 1: what went wrong, spell out exactly what happens next. Andrew

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Speaker 1: Little is willing to meet with us live Andrew, Good morning,

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Speaker 1: Good morning. Right, So last night's meeting, fearso people were

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Speaker 1: pretty brassed off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's pretty obvious, and I've been

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Speaker 2: picking that up as I've been out and about in

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Speaker 2: the South Coast areas in the last week or so.

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Speaker 2: People justifiably angry. This is not something that would happen.

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Speaker 2: It's affecting businesses, households are suffering the odors that goes

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Speaker 2: with trying to get the plants sorted out, more sorts

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Speaker 2: of things. So, yeah, I think people are genuinely concerned

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Speaker 2: and wanted to hear some explanations, and.

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Speaker 1: In terms of the actual sewage, because we know when

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Speaker 1: it rains it's coming out, how long before people can

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Speaker 1: go back to swimming in that area?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is the question. So we've had

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Speaker 2: ever since the plant failed, all the seas around all

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Speaker 2: the bays have been monitored just to see what's happening

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Speaker 2: with the contamination. Has shown pretty stable that the low,

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Speaker 2: very low levels of contamination if been at all. Then

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Speaker 2: we had the storm coming through and that's changed it

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Speaker 2: all up a bit. So we'll see what the monitoring

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Speaker 2: shows of the next the ter thary days, and the

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Speaker 2: idea is the east we get to a point where

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Speaker 2: we can say, actually, you know what the risk is

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Speaker 2: X amount. It's actually pretty low and it could be

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Speaker 2: sad to go back to the beach and possibly into

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Speaker 2: the sea in certain places, but we want we just

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Speaker 2: want to get a good profile, get good data to

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Speaker 2: build up their picture, and then on a day to

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Speaker 2: day basis, give people advice on what the risk factors

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Speaker 2: might be, what might be a good day to go

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Speaker 2: to the beach, what might not be. But we're a

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Speaker 2: few days away from that yet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so we got you could be back swimming in

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Speaker 1: Weggs potentially.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if the if the monitoring shows they actually the

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Speaker 2: contamination of various beaches and the risk factors are simply

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Speaker 2: you're not going to add to it. Then it may

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Speaker 2: well be okay to.

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Speaker 1: Do that, all right, What about people actually not believing

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Speaker 1: what the Wellington Water is telling them and also the

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Speaker 1: testing that's been done. I've heard from people who live

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Speaker 1: there who say, actually, we don't trust we don't actually

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Speaker 1: believe them anymore. Is that a problem?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, obviously there's a problem with people that don't

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Speaker 2: trust it, don't have any credibility. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 2: reason why I wanted an independent review of everything that's happened.

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Speaker 2: Is executly that you can't have whether it's willing to

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Speaker 2: city Council or well Into Water or the older or

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Speaker 2: anybody else involved in the whole thing marking their own homework.

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Speaker 2: You've got to have somebody completely independent. So that's now

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Speaker 2: in the hands of the Minister that that will be

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Speaker 2: a review and it's up to the Minister to our

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Speaker 2: points and qualified expert independent people to tell A tell

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Speaker 2: us what went wrong, and then b tell us what

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Speaker 2: needs to happen to prevent this happening again.

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Speaker 1: But sorry, Andrew, not minister that, Mister Mayor. We've had

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Speaker 1: loads of people texting in this morning. Can we find

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Speaker 1: the hell out of this French company for operating it.

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Speaker 1: If it's found that they didn't keep up with the

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Speaker 1: maintenance and all the stuff that they should have been doing,

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Speaker 1: what do you do with them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's part of what the

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Speaker 2: river is to tell us about the causes. Because of

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Speaker 2: the causes and we know there'll be a mechanical something

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Speaker 2: that didn't work in the whole thing. Further than clepst

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Speaker 2: the systems cleft, the other thing is what was the

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Speaker 2: oversight and governance, Like did people get information, did people

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Speaker 2: know that there were problems and did they fail to

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Speaker 2: act on them? And that could be the oliot that

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Speaker 2: could be willing to water, It could be well into

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Speaker 2: city council. So they're all in the frame until we

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Speaker 2: kind of know what exactly has gone on.

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Speaker 1: All right, And as for the pet projects and that

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Speaker 1: you know your Wellington miles, your Golden miles and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff is your message to Wellington. All of that

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Speaker 1: stuff is on hold until we get our basics literally

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Speaker 1: what we do in the morning, first thing when we

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Speaker 1: wake up sorted out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, I've been saying that even before this

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Speaker 2: event happens, just because a bunch of other challenges refaced

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Speaker 2: with anywhere, But that's just adds to it. The priority

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Speaker 2: has got to be a functioning surge treatment plant, and frankly,

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Speaker 2: nothing else meant it until we got to sort it out.

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Speaker 2: And so we've got to get our priorities right. For

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