1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,493 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,773 Speaker 1: from News Talks at be. 3 00:00:13,373 --> 00:00:15,973 Speaker 2: Rude climb pass as our man in the Garden Killer 4 00:00:16,013 --> 00:00:17,133 Speaker 2: A rude. 5 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:19,333 Speaker 3: Cure it Jack yep in the garden. All right. 6 00:00:19,493 --> 00:00:22,533 Speaker 2: I got back, got back last night from a from 7 00:00:22,573 --> 00:00:25,213 Speaker 2: a few days away, which was very, very lovely and luxurious. 8 00:00:25,253 --> 00:00:27,733 Speaker 2: And of course the first thing I did is ran 9 00:00:27,813 --> 00:00:29,773 Speaker 2: inside put the jug on. My wife said, what are 10 00:00:29,813 --> 00:00:31,733 Speaker 2: you doing. You're making a cup of coffee. I said no. 11 00:00:32,053 --> 00:00:34,613 Speaker 2: She said, oh, for goodness sake, she said, are you 12 00:00:34,693 --> 00:00:36,693 Speaker 2: feeding the birds? And I was like, yeah, well they've 13 00:00:36,733 --> 00:00:37,653 Speaker 2: gone four days. 14 00:00:37,693 --> 00:00:38,053 Speaker 3: I haven't. 15 00:00:38,093 --> 00:00:39,573 Speaker 2: I haven't been able to fill out their feet. It's 16 00:00:39,573 --> 00:00:42,613 Speaker 2: for four whole days. And you'll be pleased to know 17 00:00:42,693 --> 00:00:45,533 Speaker 2: that first thing this morning, once I put out some 18 00:00:45,613 --> 00:00:48,213 Speaker 2: new food for them, went out there, first thing this morning, 19 00:00:48,253 --> 00:00:50,253 Speaker 2: all the tohoe were back, all the silver eyes were back. 20 00:00:51,013 --> 00:00:54,253 Speaker 3: That's right, that's exactly, That's exactly how it works. Say, 21 00:00:55,413 --> 00:00:57,133 Speaker 3: I love I love the fact that you do that, 22 00:00:57,293 --> 00:01:00,773 Speaker 3: because I think that gives you, It gives you for me, 23 00:01:01,133 --> 00:01:03,453 Speaker 3: the fact that you've got a really nice heart. I 24 00:01:03,453 --> 00:01:04,773 Speaker 3: love that. 25 00:01:05,013 --> 00:01:06,893 Speaker 2: Well, even if the toho don't, cause I'm not sure, 26 00:01:06,893 --> 00:01:09,533 Speaker 2: it's the most nutritious necessarily, but oh. 27 00:01:09,493 --> 00:01:12,373 Speaker 3: No, it's it's good that they will know what's good 28 00:01:12,413 --> 00:01:14,653 Speaker 3: for them, to be quite honest, because you know, I 29 00:01:14,973 --> 00:01:18,653 Speaker 3: used the mad butcher balls of or you know, and 30 00:01:18,773 --> 00:01:21,773 Speaker 3: pressed together and frozen and then they thaw it slowly. 31 00:01:22,333 --> 00:01:24,733 Speaker 3: So basically when you when you told me that story 32 00:01:24,813 --> 00:01:26,893 Speaker 3: last time, that you were worried about them, I thought, 33 00:01:27,173 --> 00:01:30,093 Speaker 3: I'm going to try and try and do some trials 34 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:33,653 Speaker 3: to see what happened. And and that trial actually started 35 00:01:33,693 --> 00:01:37,813 Speaker 3: already eighteen years ago when I lived in Auckland. I 36 00:01:37,853 --> 00:01:41,173 Speaker 3: was in my on my on my on my seat 37 00:01:41,293 --> 00:01:44,813 Speaker 3: in the in the office, and outside my office window 38 00:01:44,973 --> 00:01:49,293 Speaker 3: was a wonderful plant, a citrus plant. It was actually 39 00:01:49,293 --> 00:01:52,493 Speaker 3: a lemon, and suddenly a whole lot of these toho 40 00:01:52,693 --> 00:01:54,773 Speaker 3: came on the lemon and they mucked around. I took 41 00:01:54,773 --> 00:01:56,933 Speaker 3: photos of it, and it was actually one but they 42 00:01:56,973 --> 00:01:58,733 Speaker 3: were only a meter away from on the other side 43 00:01:58,733 --> 00:02:01,613 Speaker 3: of the glass. And the cool thing was that later 44 00:02:01,693 --> 00:02:05,173 Speaker 3: on in spring they were back again, and I was 45 00:02:05,213 --> 00:02:07,093 Speaker 3: just wondering, what the hell is going going on? So 46 00:02:07,213 --> 00:02:10,253 Speaker 3: I went outside and found they had been eating scale 47 00:02:10,293 --> 00:02:14,253 Speaker 3: in sects on the particular lemon tree and so I 48 00:02:14,293 --> 00:02:17,613 Speaker 3: took photos off the scale in sects. They came back. 49 00:02:18,093 --> 00:02:20,973 Speaker 3: Ten minutes later they were gone again, and I took 50 00:02:21,093 --> 00:02:26,533 Speaker 3: the same photo of the same twig and noticed that 51 00:02:26,733 --> 00:02:30,173 Speaker 3: half of the scale in sects had gone in ten minutes. 52 00:02:30,573 --> 00:02:31,733 Speaker 2: Wow. 53 00:02:31,773 --> 00:02:34,253 Speaker 3: If you're a gardener, you know the scaling sects are 54 00:02:34,293 --> 00:02:40,013 Speaker 3: real pinned a butt And Taho was basically my biological control. 55 00:02:40,333 --> 00:02:44,173 Speaker 3: So that was that. Now, later in life I actually 56 00:02:44,173 --> 00:02:46,373 Speaker 3: got involved in bending. As you know, I do a 57 00:02:46,373 --> 00:02:50,213 Speaker 3: lot of bird bending, including taho. I did about forty 58 00:02:50,213 --> 00:02:54,093 Speaker 3: three yesterday and about sixty the day before, so it's 59 00:02:54,133 --> 00:02:57,773 Speaker 3: been pretty busy here. But here comes the thing when 60 00:02:57,813 --> 00:03:01,173 Speaker 3: I look at the balls of meat in the garden 61 00:03:01,253 --> 00:03:04,133 Speaker 3: and I see how many birds have got rings on them, 62 00:03:04,973 --> 00:03:07,973 Speaker 3: and I came to the conclusion that it wasn't actually 63 00:03:08,053 --> 00:03:11,053 Speaker 3: that many, And so I've written it all down so 64 00:03:11,093 --> 00:03:13,493 Speaker 3: it will be all on the website that Libby will 65 00:03:13,573 --> 00:03:16,093 Speaker 3: check on. The interesting thing is that I came to 66 00:03:16,133 --> 00:03:18,493 Speaker 3: the conclusion in the end that in my garden on 67 00:03:18,573 --> 00:03:23,173 Speaker 3: efverats there were almost a thousand towho passing through. 68 00:03:23,533 --> 00:03:27,253 Speaker 2: No, yes, thousand, yes. 69 00:03:27,853 --> 00:03:30,293 Speaker 3: At nine hundred and seventy two I think was my 70 00:03:30,413 --> 00:03:32,053 Speaker 3: number there you go. 71 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,853 Speaker 2: This is and that's not You're not eating, you think. 72 00:03:36,893 --> 00:03:40,173 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not at all, because you know, 73 00:03:40,693 --> 00:03:43,333 Speaker 3: let's say you got thirty in a tree or on 74 00:03:43,373 --> 00:03:46,293 Speaker 3: the block, and off the thirty only two and a 75 00:03:46,293 --> 00:03:48,653 Speaker 3: half I think it was two and a half. Have 76 00:03:48,813 --> 00:03:53,133 Speaker 3: got a band on which is one in twelve, you 77 00:03:53,173 --> 00:03:55,813 Speaker 3: know what I mean. So then and then you start 78 00:03:55,853 --> 00:03:58,173 Speaker 3: looking on and on and on, and you count it 79 00:03:58,213 --> 00:04:00,453 Speaker 3: all up with all my neighbors and all other stuff 80 00:04:00,453 --> 00:04:02,573 Speaker 3: as well, and in the end you realize that there 81 00:04:02,613 --> 00:04:05,253 Speaker 3: are almost a thousand coming past every day. 82 00:04:06,653 --> 00:04:08,413 Speaker 2: Rereadable. Yeah, that's amazing. 83 00:04:09,173 --> 00:04:11,493 Speaker 3: So this is where education brings me. That's what I 84 00:04:11,533 --> 00:04:14,853 Speaker 3: do with maths and teachers and kids. Yeah, and that 85 00:04:15,013 --> 00:04:18,373 Speaker 3: is real McCoy stuff. So these these toeh, by the way, 86 00:04:18,493 --> 00:04:22,093 Speaker 3: also do a certain circuit and if you are stopping feeding, 87 00:04:22,373 --> 00:04:24,453 Speaker 3: they'll go to the other four or five houses in 88 00:04:24,493 --> 00:04:27,653 Speaker 3: the neighborhood and they know exactly where to get their talker. 89 00:04:27,973 --> 00:04:29,213 Speaker 2: Well, they're back at my place now. 90 00:04:31,933 --> 00:04:35,093 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. I love it very good. 91 00:04:35,453 --> 00:04:36,733 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks of us for that. 92 00:04:38,053 --> 00:04:40,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you forget to watch that video. I put 93 00:04:40,453 --> 00:04:44,133 Speaker 3: a video opposite of the creek. It's a noisy, noisy stuff. 94 00:04:44,133 --> 00:04:45,213 Speaker 3: You love it so good? 95 00:04:45,573 --> 00:04:47,813 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all little, all of them feeding away. So 96 00:04:47,813 --> 00:04:49,973 Speaker 2: we'll make sure that's available at Newstalks, hidb dot co 97 00:04:50,053 --> 00:04:52,693 Speaker 2: dot inwards. Last Jack, we'll catch again next week next 98 00:04:52,773 --> 00:04:55,373 Speaker 2: Roade Route climb pass in the Garden for us. 99 00:04:55,693 --> 00:04:58,813 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live 100 00:04:58,893 --> 00:05:01,693 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 101 00:05:01,773 --> 00:05:03,693 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.