1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,987 Speaker 1: from Newstalks. 3 00:00:11,587 --> 00:00:13,507 Speaker 2: Ed B Cameron. 4 00:00:14,467 --> 00:00:18,547 Speaker 1: The crew twenty five thousand are buying for blood, are 5 00:00:18,587 --> 00:00:20,267 Speaker 1: buying for Amus. He hooked the. 6 00:00:20,267 --> 00:00:21,187 Speaker 2: Last one to the leap. 7 00:00:21,387 --> 00:00:23,267 Speaker 1: Yeah, show yourself and glorious did you get. 8 00:00:23,107 --> 00:00:23,547 Speaker 3: This one over? 9 00:00:23,787 --> 00:00:25,907 Speaker 2: W it's a hero or a zero kick? 10 00:00:26,707 --> 00:00:29,307 Speaker 1: He steps in, he hits them with the right foot. 11 00:00:29,587 --> 00:00:34,467 Speaker 1: Peace put it over at twenty points to seven eight 12 00:00:34,947 --> 00:00:36,587 Speaker 1: in the Hurricanes. 13 00:00:36,067 --> 00:00:37,027 Speaker 2: And won it for death. 14 00:00:37,907 --> 00:00:41,067 Speaker 3: Hurricanes head coach Clarke Laidlaw is with us. Clarke, you 15 00:00:41,147 --> 00:00:44,147 Speaker 3: wrapped up your preseason preparation with one over the Blues 16 00:00:44,347 --> 00:00:46,587 Speaker 3: in wan Uyamata on Friday. How do you feel you're 17 00:00:46,587 --> 00:00:49,427 Speaker 3: placed heading into twenty twenty five in general terms? 18 00:00:49,467 --> 00:00:51,787 Speaker 2: First of all, yeah, it was nice to finish off, 19 00:00:51,827 --> 00:00:54,907 Speaker 2: as you say, preseason O and yui, And it was 20 00:00:54,907 --> 00:00:57,667 Speaker 2: a great day, you know, in the community, and then 21 00:00:58,067 --> 00:00:59,667 Speaker 2: you know the amount of people that came out and watched, 22 00:00:59,667 --> 00:01:05,747 Speaker 2: and yeah, we really enjoyed the afternoon across there. So yeah, preseasons, 23 00:01:05,787 --> 00:01:07,987 Speaker 2: I guess it's season, isn't it. You know, we feel 24 00:01:07,987 --> 00:01:13,107 Speaker 2: pre organized. We've really enjoyed demand sort of application since 25 00:01:13,427 --> 00:01:17,347 Speaker 2: you know then in November started December, it's been slightly different, 26 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:20,747 Speaker 2: I guess around you know, with all Blacks coming back 27 00:01:20,867 --> 00:01:23,827 Speaker 2: later all Black fifteen to two, which you know meant 28 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:27,107 Speaker 2: guys started at different times. So so yeah, we fully 29 00:01:27,107 --> 00:01:30,187 Speaker 2: we sort of navigated that part reasonably well and you know, 30 00:01:30,267 --> 00:01:33,947 Speaker 2: trying to get our consistency now of of preparation with 31 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:36,947 Speaker 2: the full squad ins. You know, the next step isn't 32 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:38,347 Speaker 2: it to be ready for Friday night. 33 00:01:39,027 --> 00:01:41,187 Speaker 3: Let's talk about some positions. The key one I guest 34 00:01:41,187 --> 00:01:43,507 Speaker 3: first five for you Brick Cameron had a brilliant season 35 00:01:43,747 --> 00:01:45,707 Speaker 3: at first five and twenty twenty four he's picked up 36 00:01:45,707 --> 00:01:48,147 Speaker 3: a long term injury that Idaan Morgan's gone off show. 37 00:01:48,227 --> 00:01:52,267 Speaker 3: So how are you placed on the team, Jersey. 38 00:01:51,627 --> 00:01:54,827 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, for the most part, we still 39 00:01:54,827 --> 00:01:57,147 Speaker 2: feel really excited around the players we've got. You know, 40 00:01:57,187 --> 00:02:02,067 Speaker 2: you've got young Harry Godfrey, Riley Peppa, we have both 41 00:02:02,067 --> 00:02:05,707 Speaker 2: played there, but Calm Harkering his injury recover and injury 42 00:02:05,747 --> 00:02:09,667 Speaker 2: cover and obviously Rubin once he's back and can play ten. 43 00:02:09,907 --> 00:02:13,027 Speaker 2: So you know, as you say, to lose a couple 44 00:02:13,027 --> 00:02:16,627 Speaker 2: of players like we did, you know, once Ruben's back 45 00:02:17,427 --> 00:02:20,987 Speaker 2: with the guys I mentioned, it still feels it feels 46 00:02:21,027 --> 00:02:22,867 Speaker 2: like we're strong there. It does. It is a big 47 00:02:22,907 --> 00:02:27,187 Speaker 2: selection around. Yeah, it gets first cracked. I think. You know, 48 00:02:27,227 --> 00:02:30,227 Speaker 2: both Harry and Riley have played well in the two weeks, 49 00:02:30,547 --> 00:02:32,147 Speaker 2: but they've trained well, you know, because it's not just 50 00:02:32,307 --> 00:02:35,107 Speaker 2: you know obviously the trial games. It's it's what they're 51 00:02:35,147 --> 00:02:36,627 Speaker 2: doing every day. So we'll have a good look at 52 00:02:36,667 --> 00:02:40,227 Speaker 2: the game and yeah, we'll pick the team tomorrow over 53 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:42,507 Speaker 2: the next couple of days and you get into it 54 00:02:42,507 --> 00:02:43,067 Speaker 2: with them. 55 00:02:43,107 --> 00:02:46,187 Speaker 3: So just on Rubens, So he's an option at first 56 00:02:46,227 --> 00:02:48,187 Speaker 3: five when he comes back, or are you talking about 57 00:02:48,227 --> 00:02:49,827 Speaker 3: him going going to fall back, freeing up someone like 58 00:02:49,827 --> 00:02:53,307 Speaker 3: Harry Godfrey or it could Ruben Love with the team Jersey, 59 00:02:53,347 --> 00:02:54,267 Speaker 3: I guess is what I'm asking. 60 00:02:55,067 --> 00:02:57,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, either either and short answer, yes, you know he's 61 00:02:57,787 --> 00:03:00,387 Speaker 2: put a lot out of ten. But we have noticed 62 00:03:00,387 --> 00:03:04,627 Speaker 2: with the rubin coming back this year feels like, yeah, 63 00:03:04,627 --> 00:03:08,987 Speaker 2: he really starts to mature, really to probably trust himself 64 00:03:09,027 --> 00:03:11,067 Speaker 2: as as a young rugby player. You know, his opinions 65 00:03:11,107 --> 00:03:15,067 Speaker 2: and his thoughts. He had an amazing year last year 66 00:03:15,067 --> 00:03:18,267 Speaker 2: obviously at throwback, but he did cover ten. You know, 67 00:03:18,387 --> 00:03:20,387 Speaker 2: most weeks we didn't carry and I went out turn 68 00:03:20,427 --> 00:03:22,987 Speaker 2: on the bench, So he's had a lot of training 69 00:03:22,987 --> 00:03:25,307 Speaker 2: reps there. So you know, if you'd been fitting healthy 70 00:03:25,387 --> 00:03:27,827 Speaker 2: and and hadn't been in all blacks, it might have 71 00:03:27,827 --> 00:03:29,587 Speaker 2: been a different picture as we led into the season. 72 00:03:29,667 --> 00:03:31,227 Speaker 2: But you know he's going to start a bit later 73 00:03:31,267 --> 00:03:33,387 Speaker 2: and find his way back in. But he's definitely an option. 74 00:03:34,027 --> 00:03:36,547 Speaker 3: You only got five games at a camera guad last season, 75 00:03:36,547 --> 00:03:39,467 Speaker 3: five pretty good games they before he suffered that serious injury. 76 00:03:39,747 --> 00:03:41,987 Speaker 3: Has he looking hitting into twenty twenty five. 77 00:03:44,107 --> 00:03:45,787 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of those players. You know, if you 78 00:03:45,827 --> 00:03:48,267 Speaker 2: watched him and Peter Lackaye both played yesterday, they don't 79 00:03:48,267 --> 00:03:50,867 Speaker 2: take long to get back up to speed. You know, 80 00:03:50,907 --> 00:03:54,707 Speaker 2: he's super fit, he's really clear in his own game. 81 00:03:54,747 --> 00:03:56,867 Speaker 2: He's super friends, he's the area and he wants to improve. 82 00:03:57,027 --> 00:04:00,347 Speaker 2: But yeah, we yeah, we were excited to see him 83 00:04:00,347 --> 00:04:03,507 Speaker 2: in the field yesterday. He's standing a really lead, you 84 00:04:03,547 --> 00:04:06,747 Speaker 2: know with the the departure the TJ. You know he 85 00:04:06,787 --> 00:04:09,467 Speaker 2: has to step forward now and understand how he leads 86 00:04:09,507 --> 00:04:12,227 Speaker 2: the men, and it leads from half park in his 87 00:04:12,267 --> 00:04:14,627 Speaker 2: own area. So you know, again that's like another little 88 00:04:14,707 --> 00:04:17,307 Speaker 2: evolution of his development and something he seems really up 89 00:04:17,307 --> 00:04:18,467 Speaker 2: for one. 90 00:04:18,267 --> 00:04:20,747 Speaker 3: Thing, you do have a lot of choice in one area, 91 00:04:20,747 --> 00:04:23,267 Speaker 3: you've got a lot of choice. You lose forwards. Bread 92 00:04:23,267 --> 00:04:25,507 Speaker 3: Shields paid a lot of duplessy if you brand in 93 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:29,667 Speaker 3: your site, David Flanders, you've added our ec polico from Taranaki. 94 00:04:30,147 --> 00:04:32,187 Speaker 3: How are you going to shuffle your your luses from 95 00:04:32,187 --> 00:04:32,707 Speaker 3: week to week. 96 00:04:34,587 --> 00:04:37,387 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll probably shuffle themselves. I guess with the bodies 97 00:04:37,427 --> 00:04:40,627 Speaker 2: the way they play, you know, they play with no 98 00:04:40,707 --> 00:04:43,667 Speaker 2: regard for the body, all of them. So yeah, I'm 99 00:04:43,707 --> 00:04:46,427 Speaker 2: sure it'll help Sin out of times and we'll need 100 00:04:46,427 --> 00:04:49,107 Speaker 2: them all And if we do have those issues, then 101 00:04:49,347 --> 00:04:51,467 Speaker 2: you know we can we can mix and match. It's 102 00:04:51,547 --> 00:04:53,267 Speaker 2: quite often around as we can cover on the bench 103 00:04:53,347 --> 00:04:56,067 Speaker 2: and then come on, if you go five three year 104 00:04:56,107 --> 00:04:57,787 Speaker 2: or six two it can it can change it too. 105 00:04:57,907 --> 00:05:01,067 Speaker 2: So so yeah, it's you know, as I say, we 106 00:05:01,107 --> 00:05:03,947 Speaker 2: always always talk about these selection headaches. We very rarely 107 00:05:03,987 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 2: get to it. So if we do, I'll be I'll 108 00:05:05,987 --> 00:05:08,387 Speaker 2: be happy with the Yeah, I guess a little bit 109 00:05:08,387 --> 00:05:10,427 Speaker 2: of sleepless nights around who who fills the four spots 110 00:05:10,467 --> 00:05:11,307 Speaker 2: in the twenty three. 111 00:05:11,667 --> 00:05:13,907 Speaker 3: And you've lost a bit of experience. You mentioned TJ 112 00:05:14,107 --> 00:05:17,187 Speaker 3: Peranada departing Jordy Barretts in Ireland. Of course you didn't 113 00:05:17,227 --> 00:05:19,987 Speaker 3: have Ardie last year, but he's gone now to how 114 00:05:19,987 --> 00:05:22,147 Speaker 3: do you feel that how do you fill that experience 115 00:05:22,147 --> 00:05:24,267 Speaker 3: in that leadership void in the squad. 116 00:05:25,507 --> 00:05:27,507 Speaker 2: He's got to grow them, haven't you. There's no shortcuts 117 00:05:27,547 --> 00:05:32,347 Speaker 2: to experience in leadership. But you know, we've been working 118 00:05:32,347 --> 00:05:36,627 Speaker 2: hard enough season around on field. How do we get 119 00:05:36,627 --> 00:05:39,627 Speaker 2: the guys to really communicate well before things and during 120 00:05:39,747 --> 00:05:42,227 Speaker 2: the after and how do you get them to lead 121 00:05:42,267 --> 00:05:44,187 Speaker 2: to you know, in meetings or before meetings or after 122 00:05:44,267 --> 00:05:48,227 Speaker 2: meetings into training. So yeah, it's been a fair bit 123 00:05:48,267 --> 00:05:51,427 Speaker 2: of thought and in practice. And then you know, we 124 00:05:51,467 --> 00:05:54,747 Speaker 2: do have some leaders that have captain their sides the 125 00:05:54,947 --> 00:05:58,347 Speaker 2: lading areas, you know, right across the field really with 126 00:05:58,467 --> 00:06:02,907 Speaker 2: Braid and Brad Dupes of all captain the sides, Peter 127 00:06:03,027 --> 00:06:07,827 Speaker 2: Mana Jensen, Billy of captain teams, so they know what 128 00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:09,867 Speaker 2: it's like to lead, but alimly it's actions, isn't it. 129 00:06:09,907 --> 00:06:12,547 Speaker 2: You know, if they can all play well and you know, 130 00:06:12,707 --> 00:06:15,347 Speaker 2: game drivers around the tactics and the you know, the 131 00:06:15,347 --> 00:06:17,267 Speaker 2: flow of the game, then they can lead that. Then 132 00:06:17,507 --> 00:06:20,827 Speaker 2: you know, there should be an affair to to build off. 133 00:06:20,907 --> 00:06:22,947 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's definitely been something we've put a bit 134 00:06:22,947 --> 00:06:23,387 Speaker 2: of working too. 135 00:06:23,867 --> 00:06:25,307 Speaker 3: Have you disorder on your captain? 136 00:06:26,627 --> 00:06:26,867 Speaker 2: Yep? 137 00:06:27,747 --> 00:06:29,107 Speaker 3: When will it be announced? 138 00:06:30,587 --> 00:06:33,027 Speaker 2: Yeah, the next few days. We're going to announce it 139 00:06:33,067 --> 00:06:36,027 Speaker 2: to the team tomorrow. What we're going to do there 140 00:06:38,107 --> 00:06:41,107 Speaker 2: is it quirky maybe a little bit, but that shared 141 00:06:41,147 --> 00:06:43,387 Speaker 2: responsibility is definitely something we've been thinking a lot around. 142 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:46,667 Speaker 2: So how do we yeah, share the responsibility of leading 143 00:06:46,667 --> 00:06:48,507 Speaker 2: the team as well as grow each individual in their 144 00:06:48,547 --> 00:06:51,187 Speaker 2: own game is something I've been really well, we've been 145 00:06:51,227 --> 00:06:56,067 Speaker 2: really conscious of. You know, sometimes leaders end up looking 146 00:06:56,067 --> 00:06:59,067 Speaker 2: after everybody else rather than themselves, so that's something as 147 00:06:59,067 --> 00:07:01,827 Speaker 2: I say, I'm really conscious of how we how we 148 00:07:01,867 --> 00:07:05,467 Speaker 2: get that balance and allowed the men to play really 149 00:07:05,507 --> 00:07:06,187 Speaker 2: well at the same. 150 00:07:06,067 --> 00:07:08,787 Speaker 3: Time, Rod, And just to finish your top the regular 151 00:07:08,827 --> 00:07:12,467 Speaker 3: season Atlanta last year before losing to the Chiefs in 152 00:07:12,547 --> 00:07:15,387 Speaker 3: the semi finals. It was your first season as a 153 00:07:15,427 --> 00:07:18,187 Speaker 3: Super Rugby head coach. What were the biggest lessons you 154 00:07:18,227 --> 00:07:19,467 Speaker 3: took out of twenty twenty four. 155 00:07:22,467 --> 00:07:24,547 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there was a lot obviously, as you say, 156 00:07:24,587 --> 00:07:28,427 Speaker 2: my first year, maybe a long listing phone call, but yeah, 157 00:07:28,667 --> 00:07:32,027 Speaker 2: you got to You've got to try and really focus 158 00:07:32,027 --> 00:07:34,387 Speaker 2: hard at the end of the year on keeping your game, 159 00:07:34,467 --> 00:07:38,387 Speaker 2: mising simple and and really executing. You know, everything feels 160 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:42,307 Speaker 2: a little bit faster, each collision feels a little bit tougher, 161 00:07:42,987 --> 00:07:46,307 Speaker 2: so making sure you were really clear on the game 162 00:07:46,347 --> 00:07:49,147 Speaker 2: at the back end and we can execute under you know, 163 00:07:49,187 --> 00:07:53,147 Speaker 2: under pressure. But you know, we we enjoyed your season 164 00:07:53,187 --> 00:07:54,827 Speaker 2: last year. It'll be a different season this year. As 165 00:07:54,867 --> 00:07:56,587 Speaker 2: I say, we're going to start slightly different, you know, 166 00:07:56,627 --> 00:08:00,107 Speaker 2: with some big TV, with Derby's early, a few players 167 00:08:00,227 --> 00:08:01,827 Speaker 2: you know, going to be a little bit later started. 168 00:08:01,907 --> 00:08:04,547 Speaker 2: So you know, if we get to that situation again 169 00:08:04,587 --> 00:08:07,707 Speaker 2: and we're in playoffs, there's definitely things we looked at 170 00:08:07,747 --> 00:08:10,467 Speaker 2: arounder a weekend of preparation and how we get that right. 171 00:08:10,547 --> 00:08:12,427 Speaker 2: But yeah, we've gotta be good enough to get there again, 172 00:08:12,467 --> 00:08:15,547 Speaker 2: I guess. So we're not looking too much further I 173 00:08:15,547 --> 00:08:17,547 Speaker 2: had and then a big challenge doing so. 174 00:08:17,747 --> 00:08:20,947 Speaker 3: Next week yep, Crusaders to start. Exciting start for the 175 00:08:20,987 --> 00:08:23,667 Speaker 3: Super Rugby competition. All the best, Clark for twenty twenty five. 176 00:08:23,667 --> 00:08:26,707 Speaker 3: Thanks for having a chatte Thanks mate. That is Clarke 177 00:08:26,787 --> 00:08:29,787 Speaker 3: laid Law, head coach of the Hurricanes, who open, as 178 00:08:29,827 --> 00:08:32,547 Speaker 3: we all know, with the opening game of the competition 179 00:08:32,627 --> 00:08:35,227 Speaker 3: Friday against the Crusaders down in christ It's then there 180 00:08:35,267 --> 00:08:38,747 Speaker 3: at home, although this game is in Napier against the 181 00:08:38,747 --> 00:08:41,867 Speaker 3: Fiji and Drewer home to the Blues and away at 182 00:08:41,907 --> 00:08:45,947 Speaker 3: Mowana Pacifica. So yeah, some pretty interesting games there in 183 00:08:45,987 --> 00:08:49,307 Speaker 3: the first month for Clark laid Law and his team. 184 00:08:49,587 --> 00:08:52,787 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 185 00:08:52,907 --> 00:08:56,187 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 186 00:08:56,227 --> 00:08:57,827 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.