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Speaker 1: The twenty twenty six edition of One Love Festival in

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Speaker 1: totunger has been canceled. The organizer said on social media

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Speaker 1: that because of the cost of living crisis and the

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Speaker 1: unforeseen developments behind the scenes, they've made the decision not

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Speaker 1: to hold the festival this time around, and they're going

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Speaker 1: to try again in twenty twenty seven. But and there

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Speaker 1: is a big butt here. One Love is owned by

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Speaker 1: one of the organizers of Juicy Fest and the Timeless

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Speaker 1: Summer Tour. And you know what happened with that? A yeah,

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Speaker 1: they both got canceled too. Brent Ekkeles doesn't have anything

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Speaker 1: to do with One Love, thank the good Lord. But

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Speaker 1: he is a concert promoter who knows this stuff, and

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Speaker 1: he's with us. Now, Hi, Brent, how are you doing now?

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Speaker 1: I'm very well, thank you. So what do you reckon?

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Speaker 1: Is this about the economy or is this about this

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Speaker 1: lot being part of a group of people who seem

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Speaker 1: to be organizing festivals to just get canceled.

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Speaker 2: I think festivals have run a course, and One Love

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Speaker 2: has been successful quite some time. It may have just

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Speaker 2: have to pause to regroup. And I think that the

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Speaker 2: promoters have had a rough run recently. So that perhaps

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Speaker 2: licking their wounds and working out the next steps.

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Speaker 1: I think, okay, is it a difficult time to be

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Speaker 1: running festivals at the minute.

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Speaker 2: Well not if you're Electric Avenue, which is the most

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Speaker 2: successful festival in Australasia. And I think that you know,

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Speaker 2: Rhythm and Vines are doing very well with them else

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Speaker 2: doing very well. You know, it depends. I mean that

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Speaker 2: the festivals. What is the festival? Is it just a

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Speaker 2: lineup of artists or something with an ethos? And I

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Speaker 2: think festivals have an ethos. The ones that stick around,

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Speaker 2: they stick to that and they do quite well. Electric

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Speaker 2: Gavenue is a great example. I think with One Love

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Speaker 2: they seem to have an ethos at the start, but

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Speaker 2: it seemed to fade and they've got themselves in a

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Speaker 2: spider bither. I think they'll read group and come back.

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Speaker 2: But nothing to do with the economy, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: Ah, okay, So does that mean then, brit If you

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Speaker 1: don't think it's got anything to do with the economy.

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Speaker 1: If you were a punter out there who's got a

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Speaker 1: ticket to a festival over summer, not this festival obviously,

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Speaker 1: but any other one, you don't need to stress out

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Speaker 1: it should be okay.

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Speaker 2: No, actually be fine, you know, particularly the bigger ones.

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Speaker 2: If it's if it's a brand new festival, maybe you

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Speaker 2: want to think about who's running that. But I think

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Speaker 2: I think in the word I hear out there that

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Speaker 2: they're all doing pretty well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now tell me what to do. Tell me what

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Speaker 1: to do if you are a punter, because what happened

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Speaker 1: to me, Brent is I bought tickets to Snoop Dogg, right,

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Speaker 1: and yes, yeah you remember, and there was this lot

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Speaker 1: who was involved with Snoop Dogg as well, And then

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Speaker 1: of course I'm like, oh lord, here we go, and

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Speaker 1: then canceled. Is there a way, so this is like

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Speaker 1: the fourth cancelation in recent times for this crowd. Is

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Speaker 1: there a way when you when you see something being

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Speaker 1: promoted to actually double check whether the people are legit

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Speaker 1: or this crowd?

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Speaker 2: I think, look at who the ticket is, and it's

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Speaker 2: a reputable ticket of someone you know, then that's a

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Speaker 2: good starting point. And have a look at who the

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Speaker 2: promoter is and just google them and see what their

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Speaker 2: reputation is like. Well, I think that the realm in

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Speaker 2: which some promoters work, like in reggae or things like

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Speaker 2: Snoopers kind of. It's always a bit hit and miss anyway,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think with that particular example, Snow it

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Speaker 2: was the promoter's fault that just he just decided not

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Speaker 2: to come on.

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Speaker 1: Oh what if a brand you're being um, sure, you're

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Speaker 1: being far too kind, because it was it was, it

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Speaker 1: was announced and it was going to be on the

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Speaker 1: next month, and it was it was old mate Paso

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Speaker 1: again and I just looked at it and I thought,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking a chance with my dollars here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean to check out who the

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Speaker 2: promoter is, if the reputable s, if they've done lots

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Speaker 2: of shows. I mean, that's what he can do.

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Speaker 1: As Now, what happened with Snoop was fascinating was that

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Speaker 1: actually everybody could get their money back because the money

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Speaker 1: had not actually gone to the promoter, but it had

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Speaker 1: been held in a trust or something like that had

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Speaker 1: been ring fenced. Is that something that should we be

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Speaker 1: doing that in any case just as a matter of course.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's probably because the venue Snoop was playing was

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Speaker 2: controlled by Auckland Stadiums, who would have insisted in money

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Speaker 2: it goes through Ticketmaster, that Ticketmaster hold the money in trust.

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Speaker 2: Other tickets don't. That gives it back to the promoter.

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Speaker 2: And I've been saying this for years, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a disaster here, and it certainly had happened

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Speaker 2: with with with the Juicy Fest and the other one.

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Speaker 2: So but the promoters hold their money in trust, ticket

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Speaker 2: Marster's ticket, check access, a couple of others. That's safe.

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Speaker 2: But how these other guys are allowed to give them

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Speaker 2: money back to the promoters or a Ponzi scheme? How

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Speaker 2: how does the government allow it allow it to happen.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's been a noise about it for rases

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Speaker 2: and nothing's happened. They still doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Now listen, Brent. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but I am just loving all the concerts we're getting

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Speaker 1: at the moment.

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Speaker 2: You you, is it just me?

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Speaker 1: Or is it actually quite like a Is there a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a thing going on?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? I mean New Zealand is a great destination and

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Speaker 2: you know there are lots of shows coming. I mean

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Speaker 2: I can't keep up. And I think you'll find next

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Speaker 2: year with the new government scheme that's going on, a

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Speaker 2: lot will be announced. Yeah, that will come through, not

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Speaker 2: maybe in the first half of next year, maybe next summer.

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Speaker 2: There'll be a lot comes through. Very exciting. Thanks.

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Speaker 1: I'm loving it, Brent. Thanks very much, Brent Echles, concert promoter.

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