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Speaker 1: Reminder of the time's got the Motor Trade Association with

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Speaker 1: a campaign to better protect service station workers. In the

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Speaker 1: first six months of this year, there's been sixty aggravated

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Speaker 1: robberies more than twelve thousand reported thefts. MTA have released

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Speaker 1: a ten point action plan. Chief Executive Lee Marshals will

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Speaker 1: us leave very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: I was hoping you could come on the program and say,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what things are improving rapidly. So we're

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Speaker 1: really bullish about this. Are you saying anything like that

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Speaker 1: at all or not?

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Speaker 2: Really? No, unfortunately not. I think it's possible that we've

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Speaker 2: reached a point where things are not getting any worse,

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Speaker 2: but they're not getting any better either. Hence, you know,

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Speaker 2: in order to help out over almost one thousand petrol

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Speaker 2: station sites that we represent across the country, we're trying

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Speaker 2: to be their voice to make sure that this continues

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Speaker 2: to be an issue and doesn't become doesn't become normal

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Speaker 2: from the government's perspective, because crime is a serious issue

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Speaker 2: for petrol station retailers across the country. The vast majority

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Speaker 2: of them are small independent businesses, franch or brand licensees,

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Speaker 2: and crime hurts.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing any sort of turnaround the police. The

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Speaker 1: government made a big deal about police cops on the

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Speaker 1: beach reacting to it getting and you know these twelve

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Speaker 1: thousand fifts cameras all of that. Do they react or not?

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Speaker 2: Like Look, I mean, I think that the rhetoric that's

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Speaker 2: come from the government has been has been very positive

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Speaker 2: to date. I don't know that it's necessarily translated into

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Speaker 2: a lot of action. I mean, to be fair to

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Speaker 2: the government, they are calling together a Ministerial Advisory Groups

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Speaker 2: for retail crime. I think we'll have a space on

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Speaker 2: that yet, but I mean, it's all in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: But I think what we need at this point is action,

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Speaker 2: and that's why we've pulled together a ten point plan

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Speaker 2: as part of saying, you know what, we're a motor

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Speaker 2: trade association, we're not crime experts. That we do think

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Speaker 2: there are practical things that can be done that are

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Speaker 2: not too difficult, that will make a meaningful difference to

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Speaker 2: the people who are ultimately the victims of these crimes

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Speaker 2: across the country.

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Speaker 1: I'll put them to Mark mitchell Is with us after

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Speaker 1: I give us the top two what literally can we do?

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Speaker 1: It isn't being done currently.

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Speaker 2: I mean what we've tried to do that sir, that's

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Speaker 2: not necessarily normal in the seer at the moment is

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Speaker 2: be a little bit creative. So you know, one of

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Speaker 2: the things that we're calling for is given half the

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Speaker 2: cost of fuel this tax. It would be great if

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Speaker 2: the victims of fuel theft could claim that tax back.

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Speaker 1: I get, I got rob and I want the three

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Speaker 1: dollars fifty that.

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Speaker 2: Well, if someone steals one hundred dollars worth of fuel

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Speaker 2: with the petrol station, fifty dollars of that is tax.

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Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: That would be a motivation for the government. Of course,

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Speaker 1: if that it became to pass, be a motivation for

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Speaker 1: the government to actually crack down and get a bit

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Speaker 1: serious about it. Wouldn't because no one likes there.

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Speaker 2: We go double incentive. I mean, otherwise, we know and

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Speaker 2: we have evidence here and overse these that extended beat

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Speaker 2: patrols really do make a difference. Would we would like

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Speaker 2: to see petrol stations, yeah, included and those And the

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Speaker 2: other one is we'd love to see remorse discounts disappear

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Speaker 2: for people who are sharing and glorifying their crimes on

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Speaker 2: social media, trying to encourage or not encourage, but you know,

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Speaker 2: trying to take credibility from promoting what they've done. From

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Speaker 2: our perspective, you don't get to firstly commit a crime,

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Speaker 2: secondly tell everybody else what a great thing you've done,

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Speaker 2: and then thirdly say you're sorry and get a remorse.

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Speaker 2: Discount That to us just doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: Now, it does not. I reckon that might actually and

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Speaker 1: I will ask Mark about this, that might actually be

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Speaker 1: a part of their discounting law that they're putting through

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Speaker 1: at the moment. Lee appreciate that. Lee Marshall, who's the

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Speaker 1: MTA chief executive. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast,

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