1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,427 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,027 Speaker 1: from Newstalk Z'B. 3 00:00:12,987 --> 00:00:15,707 Speaker 2: Yeah, buzzing. Can't wait to get out there and get 4 00:00:15,707 --> 00:00:16,467 Speaker 2: on the race course. 5 00:00:17,067 --> 00:00:20,427 Speaker 3: The tefoils are on everybody's mind. Everyone's been talking about 6 00:00:20,427 --> 00:00:22,707 Speaker 3: them this week. Tell us about your experience with the 7 00:00:22,747 --> 00:00:24,307 Speaker 3: new titanium tefoils. 8 00:00:24,507 --> 00:00:26,427 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fantastic to get them one. It's obviously a 9 00:00:26,507 --> 00:00:29,107 Speaker 2: bit more similar to what we were using over in Barcelona, 10 00:00:29,227 --> 00:00:33,667 Speaker 2: so there's been plenty of interesting differences between the teams. 11 00:00:33,907 --> 00:00:36,747 Speaker 2: I'd say that there's been a little bit more looseness 12 00:00:36,747 --> 00:00:38,987 Speaker 2: out there, some more crashing. So I think it'll be 13 00:00:39,027 --> 00:00:40,147 Speaker 2: a great weekend for the fans. 14 00:00:40,307 --> 00:00:44,907 Speaker 3: That does it bring into sharper focus the skill of 15 00:00:44,947 --> 00:00:48,467 Speaker 3: the sailors we're going at at faster speeds. 16 00:00:48,947 --> 00:00:51,427 Speaker 2: I think that the fastest speeds will be great, but 17 00:00:51,507 --> 00:00:54,187 Speaker 2: I also think it's about how we learn and adapt 18 00:00:54,227 --> 00:00:56,627 Speaker 2: to these new tfoils and how the boat behaves. So 19 00:00:57,027 --> 00:00:59,547 Speaker 2: there's certainly plenty for us to get on top of. 20 00:00:59,587 --> 00:01:01,947 Speaker 2: And we've seen some, as you say, some differences and 21 00:01:01,947 --> 00:01:03,587 Speaker 2: we're all trying to work out the best way to 22 00:01:03,667 --> 00:01:05,027 Speaker 2: get the boats around the race course. 23 00:01:05,267 --> 00:01:07,387 Speaker 3: What are your experiences with them, what have you it 24 00:01:07,467 --> 00:01:08,827 Speaker 3: to adjust the most. 25 00:01:09,107 --> 00:01:12,027 Speaker 2: There's some different settings that we can play with, and 26 00:01:12,107 --> 00:01:15,387 Speaker 2: the cant sor the angle that it drops at is 27 00:01:15,547 --> 00:01:17,507 Speaker 2: very similar in reality again to the sort of the 28 00:01:17,547 --> 00:01:20,427 Speaker 2: seventy five the aight forties, So trying to work out 29 00:01:20,507 --> 00:01:23,747 Speaker 2: where we can bring the experience from the cup, but 30 00:01:23,867 --> 00:01:27,187 Speaker 2: also how different it is in CELGP with the fifty Casmaran. 31 00:01:27,307 --> 00:01:28,627 Speaker 2: So there's plenty going on. 32 00:01:28,907 --> 00:01:33,747 Speaker 3: So you're backing into Cell GP. Obviously the change of 33 00:01:33,867 --> 00:01:36,827 Speaker 3: dry has it been relatively seamless as far as your consuit. 34 00:01:37,267 --> 00:01:40,547 Speaker 2: I think it feels good to be back in Emirates GBR, 35 00:01:40,627 --> 00:01:43,227 Speaker 2: but obviously the team's very experienced, and I know that 36 00:01:43,627 --> 00:01:46,067 Speaker 2: the level has gone at massively since season one, so 37 00:01:46,147 --> 00:01:48,867 Speaker 2: I'm very much just hanging off what the team's telling 38 00:01:48,907 --> 00:01:51,107 Speaker 2: me and trying to do best job I can. 39 00:01:51,507 --> 00:01:54,267 Speaker 3: You must obviously have kept a close eye on Cell GP, 40 00:01:54,387 --> 00:01:56,507 Speaker 3: though as you say you were involved in season one, 41 00:01:56,587 --> 00:01:59,027 Speaker 3: you clearly have kept an eye on its development over 42 00:01:59,307 --> 00:02:01,107 Speaker 3: over seasons two, three, four into five. 43 00:02:01,147 --> 00:02:03,587 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, certainly kept an eye and I was even 44 00:02:03,627 --> 00:02:06,627 Speaker 2: sort of working behind the scenes in season three. So yeah, 45 00:02:06,627 --> 00:02:09,427 Speaker 2: it's great to finally be back driving, and the boats 46 00:02:09,427 --> 00:02:11,547 Speaker 2: have got a lot faster, a lot better, the teams 47 00:02:11,587 --> 00:02:14,267 Speaker 2: are a lot better, and I think that it's just amazing, 48 00:02:14,307 --> 00:02:16,707 Speaker 2: to be honest, you know, I think this event here 49 00:02:16,747 --> 00:02:19,787 Speaker 2: really shows SELGP at its best. We've got you know, 50 00:02:19,867 --> 00:02:22,747 Speaker 2: eight thousand you know, seats in the grandstand right by 51 00:02:22,787 --> 00:02:25,627 Speaker 2: the race course, the tech areas right here, we've got 52 00:02:25,667 --> 00:02:27,747 Speaker 2: all the moorings which are really closed. It's amazing to 53 00:02:27,747 --> 00:02:30,107 Speaker 2: see all the fans here already. So I just hope 54 00:02:30,107 --> 00:02:31,547 Speaker 2: that we put on a great show for everyone. 55 00:02:31,587 --> 00:02:33,547 Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think there's any any danger of that 56 00:02:33,707 --> 00:02:36,627 Speaker 3: not hppening. Obviously, you've come in for Garles Scott, who's 57 00:02:36,867 --> 00:02:38,707 Speaker 3: gone to the Canadian team. Can you tell us how 58 00:02:38,747 --> 00:02:42,987 Speaker 3: that conversation happened? Who run you? Was of an easy years. 59 00:02:43,267 --> 00:02:45,147 Speaker 2: It was very fluid and it was quite late, to 60 00:02:45,147 --> 00:02:48,947 Speaker 2: be honest, Ben knows, I've always been pushing to get 61 00:02:48,987 --> 00:02:50,947 Speaker 2: back on the boat or back in an F fifty 62 00:02:50,987 --> 00:02:53,427 Speaker 2: ever since that first season, and you know, I guess 63 00:02:53,427 --> 00:02:55,867 Speaker 2: I was slightly surprised at first when Garles went to 64 00:02:55,987 --> 00:02:59,347 Speaker 2: the Canadians, but it all fell into place quite nicely. 65 00:02:59,427 --> 00:03:02,067 Speaker 2: At the end of my time in Barcelona with Ben 66 00:03:02,147 --> 00:03:03,947 Speaker 2: saying that, you know, I'd got the gig and I 67 00:03:03,987 --> 00:03:07,227 Speaker 2: was driving, So yeah, an exceptional lent, exceptional summer. 68 00:03:07,387 --> 00:03:09,667 Speaker 3: What has Subbin like to deal with? 69 00:03:11,067 --> 00:03:14,867 Speaker 2: Formidable? But he's he's really nice, to be honest, and 70 00:03:15,147 --> 00:03:17,387 Speaker 2: you always know where you are with him, and yeah, 71 00:03:17,427 --> 00:03:18,947 Speaker 2: I certainly have a good relationship. 72 00:03:19,147 --> 00:03:23,707 Speaker 3: So Dubai the season opening of be into Dubai second there, 73 00:03:24,227 --> 00:03:26,587 Speaker 3: you must have been pretty happy with it, were you. 74 00:03:26,987 --> 00:03:29,067 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess pretty Happy's a probably a good way 75 00:03:29,067 --> 00:03:32,187 Speaker 2: of putting it. Certainly, we know it's a long season 76 00:03:32,387 --> 00:03:34,987 Speaker 2: in SELGP and we're all about getting into that Grand Final, 77 00:03:35,387 --> 00:03:36,547 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we're trying to 78 00:03:36,547 --> 00:03:39,467 Speaker 2: win every event, and to be honest, I'm still sort 79 00:03:39,467 --> 00:03:41,587 Speaker 2: of slightly annoyed at myself for part of that in 80 00:03:41,707 --> 00:03:44,307 Speaker 2: terms of I just wanted to win, and you know, 81 00:03:44,587 --> 00:03:46,907 Speaker 2: being being by the keywis is something I don't enjoy. 82 00:03:48,627 --> 00:03:51,547 Speaker 3: Well, you'll probably enjoy it list out here with eight 83 00:03:51,547 --> 00:03:54,067 Speaker 3: thousand if it happens, of course, with eight thousand cheerings. 84 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:57,867 Speaker 3: So what were you annoyed personally? It's something you did 85 00:03:57,947 --> 00:03:58,547 Speaker 3: or didn't do. 86 00:03:58,827 --> 00:04:00,987 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were leading the race sort of halfway through, 87 00:04:01,027 --> 00:04:04,387 Speaker 2: and you know, a little mistake from myself on you know, 88 00:04:04,467 --> 00:04:06,067 Speaker 2: open the door for Pete and I know that you know, 89 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:08,867 Speaker 2: he'll take any opportunity you get. So it was a 90 00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:12,267 Speaker 2: frustrating one, but yeah, we'll live and lane. 91 00:04:12,507 --> 00:04:15,107 Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about the conditions out here across the 92 00:04:15,107 --> 00:04:18,027 Speaker 3: next two days. You've obviously been training practicing out here. 93 00:04:18,067 --> 00:04:21,147 Speaker 3: What impact do you expect the conditions to have on 94 00:04:21,267 --> 00:04:22,307 Speaker 3: racing today and tomorrow. 95 00:04:22,547 --> 00:04:24,907 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be very hectic and close. The 96 00:04:25,547 --> 00:04:28,507 Speaker 2: last two days we've been racing with fleets of five 97 00:04:28,627 --> 00:04:31,067 Speaker 2: or six boats, and today is the first time we've 98 00:04:31,067 --> 00:04:33,547 Speaker 2: got all eleven on the racecourse and it felt small 99 00:04:33,627 --> 00:04:36,627 Speaker 2: with six boats, So eleven it's going to feel real small. 100 00:04:37,707 --> 00:04:40,787 Speaker 2: So I'm expecting plenty of furs and spills, some crashes, 101 00:04:41,027 --> 00:04:43,587 Speaker 2: and yeah, just trying to keep it on its feet 102 00:04:43,667 --> 00:04:44,827 Speaker 2: is going to be the important part. 103 00:04:44,947 --> 00:04:47,787 Speaker 3: So actually, you're going into the racing expecting that there 104 00:04:47,827 --> 00:04:49,707 Speaker 3: will be some carnage. 105 00:04:50,187 --> 00:04:53,267 Speaker 2: Yes, hopefully no one actually touches, but you know, we've 106 00:04:53,307 --> 00:04:56,547 Speaker 2: seen plenty of crashes. The Germans, you know, nearly put 107 00:04:56,547 --> 00:04:58,667 Speaker 2: it in a tide yesterday around the bottom mark. I 108 00:04:58,667 --> 00:05:00,707 Speaker 2: think the Brazilians nearly put it in the tide, so 109 00:05:01,347 --> 00:05:02,307 Speaker 2: there's plenty going on. 110 00:05:02,547 --> 00:05:06,187 Speaker 3: What's it? What is it like though with with other boats? 111 00:05:06,467 --> 00:05:11,947 Speaker 3: High speed, close proximity, low margin for era? How how 112 00:05:11,987 --> 00:05:14,387 Speaker 3: cool hidded do you have to be in situations like that? 113 00:05:14,947 --> 00:05:16,507 Speaker 2: Yeah? I guess you've got to keep your call. But 114 00:05:16,547 --> 00:05:18,267 Speaker 2: to be honest, I think this is what all of 115 00:05:18,347 --> 00:05:20,547 Speaker 2: us live for. We absolutely love it out there and 116 00:05:20,627 --> 00:05:23,467 Speaker 2: having eleven boats and going you know, ninety k's and 117 00:05:23,507 --> 00:05:25,427 Speaker 2: now one hundred ks now hopefully, is that's what we 118 00:05:25,467 --> 00:05:25,827 Speaker 2: live for? 119 00:05:25,947 --> 00:05:27,667 Speaker 3: You reckon you had a hundred? I hope. 120 00:05:27,707 --> 00:05:28,947 Speaker 2: So? 121 00:05:29,587 --> 00:05:31,707 Speaker 3: And what about rounding the marks because again, you know 122 00:05:31,747 --> 00:05:35,667 Speaker 3: they're very close proximity. They talk about getting elbows out, 123 00:05:35,667 --> 00:05:38,147 Speaker 3: don't they things like that? As you know, you're ready 124 00:05:38,187 --> 00:05:40,907 Speaker 3: for that sort of thing this afternoon and tomorrow as well. Yeah. 125 00:05:40,947 --> 00:05:42,707 Speaker 2: I think it's that famous quote. You know, if you 126 00:05:42,747 --> 00:05:44,267 Speaker 2: see a gap, you've got to go for it. Otherwise 127 00:05:44,267 --> 00:05:46,707 Speaker 2: you're no longer a racing driver, so you'll be giving 128 00:05:46,707 --> 00:05:49,067 Speaker 2: it everything your fifties. 129 00:05:49,107 --> 00:05:52,547 Speaker 3: How do they compared to the other craft that you've seldom. 130 00:05:52,027 --> 00:05:54,707 Speaker 2: They're you know, they're formidable really as well. They're just 131 00:05:54,827 --> 00:05:57,347 Speaker 2: the speed is high. It's not as quick as some 132 00:05:57,387 --> 00:06:00,307 Speaker 2: of the others, but it's the fact that you're very 133 00:06:00,347 --> 00:06:03,387 Speaker 2: exposed open, you're having to run across the boat when 134 00:06:03,387 --> 00:06:06,147 Speaker 2: you're doing you know, seventy eighty ks an now, which 135 00:06:06,187 --> 00:06:09,187 Speaker 2: is it's pretty full on. So and I think for 136 00:06:09,267 --> 00:06:10,707 Speaker 2: me the main thing is just the fact that we 137 00:06:10,827 --> 00:06:12,827 Speaker 2: got ten of the boats on the race course. It's 138 00:06:12,867 --> 00:06:16,667 Speaker 2: super tight, it's ever changing, so it's some of the 139 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:17,507 Speaker 2: best racing in a while. 140 00:06:17,547 --> 00:06:21,107 Speaker 3: To be honest, in the start obviously important, you know, 141 00:06:21,187 --> 00:06:23,747 Speaker 3: doubly so with so many boats, not a lot of 142 00:06:23,827 --> 00:06:27,507 Speaker 3: room or time to overtake. So if you don't get 143 00:06:27,507 --> 00:06:31,027 Speaker 3: the start right, can you still put together an impressive 144 00:06:31,027 --> 00:06:32,867 Speaker 3: performance beyond the start line? If you get my. 145 00:06:32,907 --> 00:06:35,307 Speaker 2: Drift, Yeah, I think that you saw, you know, if 146 00:06:35,307 --> 00:06:39,747 Speaker 2: you look back at Dubai from sort of the stats 147 00:06:39,747 --> 00:06:42,827 Speaker 2: and everything, and asselves, I think the Kiwis were the 148 00:06:42,907 --> 00:06:45,507 Speaker 2: best overtakers and we were the second best overtakers, and 149 00:06:45,627 --> 00:06:48,707 Speaker 2: neither of us started particularly well. So I guess it's 150 00:06:48,707 --> 00:06:50,627 Speaker 2: that balance. Ideally you start well, but if you don't 151 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:52,147 Speaker 2: start well, make sure you overtake well. 152 00:06:52,667 --> 00:06:55,307 Speaker 3: Fear enough you're excited, Yeah, looking forward to great to 153 00:06:55,307 --> 00:06:57,467 Speaker 3: see you, Dylan, all the bits out there today. 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