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Speaker 4: Yeah, So we've got Dame Lisa Carrington in the studio

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Speaker 4: It is the first of September, in the Year of

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Speaker 4: Our Lord, twenty twenty four, and it's our great pleasure

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Speaker 4: to welcome to the Daily Bespoke Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dame Lisa Carington.

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Speaker 6: Hi, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: You know, we did a whole podcast yesterday just hyping

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Speaker 4: up for this. We did forty forty minutes because yesterday

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Speaker 4: when people listen to this, you were held up massively

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Speaker 4: by Mike Costing.

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Speaker 1: Was it Mike Costking I was holding you up? It

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been through a few, but yeah, like we

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Speaker 6: know you have good chats, you know, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we understand. We understand going back

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Speaker 1: Did you feel me there? Because I was there in

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you believe in me the whole way.

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Speaker 6: I guess it's like accepting or taking on the support

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Speaker 4: How here Also, this isn't true. Colin's never won a

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Speaker 3: You brought in your medals today, Thank you for doing that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're all there, and you don't travel around with

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Speaker 6: You can actually take them out of the bag.

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Speaker 1: It's quite heavy. I don't think you'd be in New

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Speaker 4: You'd be the only New Zealand olimit athlete there was

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Speaker 4: I don't so when you have done a party, so

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Speaker 2: Just after you know he finished? Is it all right?

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? This is one of the harsher

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Speaker 6: You can take them, Yeah, take a little bag. Well yeah,

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Speaker 2: Does it mean does that kind of a special worry

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Speaker 1: These guys here under armour is so pleased that under

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Speaker 6: Washing machine stole.

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Speaker 2: Right, what's the protocol on middles? Because I was playing

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Speaker 4: And I were hanging out with MICHAELA blythe and he

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you can do it. Definitely go ahead.

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Speaker 6: That's London?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you got London, and.

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Speaker 2: I've got Peter Harris.

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Speaker 6: Tokyo here, I don't know how dodgy you guys, are

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Speaker 1: Tokyo is quite beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Well, you've got a few of them.

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Speaker 4: I mean, having one as the greatest achievement humanity, and

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Speaker 1: You must have never dreamed as a as a little

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Speaker 6: Well, I you know, like you remember, I don't know

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Speaker 6: Sorry, Yeah, so I don't know, like I think, No,

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Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, and you found something. Clearly, there was something

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, And I think too, like it's constantly reminding myself,

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Speaker 6: this is tough, but I guess that's the pride you

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Speaker 1: Well I'd be proud of it as well, quite as sensible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we feel we feel proud.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's the.

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Speaker 2: Most we've done. No work, No, we're just sitting on

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Speaker 4: So you know, we get stolen velop as I say,

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Speaker 1: And the other thing about you, Dame Lisa is that

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean it's like you, I go at

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Speaker 6: I guess that's when it looks effortless, it's more efficient

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Speaker 4: You can see that though, Like that the way you

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and like exactly, it's like it's something you

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Speaker 1: Tell me that you since since you won and in Paris,

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Speaker 6: all right? You know, like I mean it's been so

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Speaker 6: good to catch up with the family, and yeah, no,

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Speaker 6: like I mean, I do love moving. So there'll be

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Speaker 4: So and your book tell us about that, because we've

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Speaker 2: But this is where you're this.

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Speaker 6: Is why you're here exactly. So my new kids book,

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Speaker 6: Lisa Carrington Chases a Champion, done in both you know, English,

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Speaker 6: enter deal. It's I guess it's really it's about eight

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Speaker 6: year old Lisa and her journey to achieving a goal

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Speaker 6: and so you know there's there's some ups and downs

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Speaker 6: and little ways she gets through it. So yeah, I'm

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Speaker 6: really proud of it. It's such a special special book.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you've got Colin, my dog. Yeah, obviously, I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I didn't have them when I was.

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Speaker 2: So that's not that a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but you've got my brothers and my parents, and

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Speaker 6: the illustrations beautiful and they look exactly like my parents.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Awesome, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I saw you the other day playing netball

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Speaker 1: and you aspire to be a netballer when you're growing up.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you could have been a really good

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Speaker 6: I don't know, I was too short.

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Speaker 1: You can.

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Speaker 6: Everyone can dream, right.

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's a bit of a publisher's nightmare, this question, Lisa,

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure you've been asked to write books about

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Speaker 3: kind of your experiences, but obviously taking your focus towards

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Speaker 3: kids books. Is that quite an important part of it

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Speaker 3: for you is making sure that you're letting people know

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Speaker 3: that they can go out and from a young age

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Speaker 3: rather than trying to impact them and an autobiography or

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Speaker 3: something like that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think also doing a yeah, autobography, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: like talking about yourself is like is probably I don't

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Speaker 6: know women will do that, but yeah, I think lessons

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Speaker 6: and sharing those as important with kids, and I think

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Speaker 6: it's always been something I've wanted to do, but obviously

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Speaker 6: being allowed, you know, having who are my publishers work

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Speaker 6: with me on that has Yeah, it's been great to

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Speaker 6: be able to share some of those lessons.

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Speaker 1: Saith, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: You're welcome.

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Speaker 1: What an inspiration you are and sorry about mess questions

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Speaker 1: earlier on and congratulations on everything. It's been a great

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Speaker 1: pleasure to have you in here.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much. You all look really great with

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Speaker 6: those metals on.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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