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Speaker 1: Look, it's unclear if AID is reaching the starving people

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Speaker 1: of Gaza. Only five trucks have been lit in following

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Speaker 1: international pressure, but soldiers are holding up the distribution of

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Speaker 1: the food. Israeli soldiers, obviously. Our foreign Minister Winston Peters

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Speaker 1: is amongst twenty four foreign ministers and leaders now reaching

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Speaker 1: the end of their patients with Israel. Alistair Buncle is

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Speaker 1: Sky News's Middle East correspondent based out of Jerusalem. Alista, Hello,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, Heather. Is the food getting to people?

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Speaker 2: No, In a simple word, it's not. Israel started allowing

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Speaker 2: AID trucks in about thirty six hours ago, and some

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Speaker 2: have gone in. It slightly confusing exactly how many, but

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Speaker 2: possibly even as much as ninety trucks have managed to

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Speaker 2: enter Gaza. But the UN and I haven't had an

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Speaker 2: update this morning. It's the morning time here in Jerusalem.

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Speaker 2: Haven't had an update this morning, but the UN says

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Speaker 2: that none of it's yet reached Gazans. Now, that'd be

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Speaker 2: a multitude of factors, but mainly because the fighting is

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Speaker 2: ongoing and the AID trucks need to be given safe passage.

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Speaker 1: Is the pressure that is mounting on Israel enough to

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Speaker 1: force it to actually in this humanitarian crisis and get

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Speaker 1: the food to the people.

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Speaker 2: It's a really good question. I mean, certainly pressure has

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Speaker 2: forced Israel to end its siege of Gaza or be it,

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Speaker 2: you know, as we've just discussed, you know, in a

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Speaker 2: very limited way. But pressure has forced Israel to allow

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Speaker 2: some aid back into Grza. That's that's for sure. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's many pressure from the Americans. Will pressure

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Speaker 2: from you know, foreign minister statements like that of your country,

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Speaker 2: the United Kingdom where I'm originally from, France, etcetera. Will

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Speaker 2: that make a difference. Will will the statements by Kissed

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Speaker 2: Armor and Emmanuel Macrol? Yes, they make a difference. I'm

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Speaker 2: not convinced. I still retain the belief that the only

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Speaker 2: person who really has genuine leverage and influence over over

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Speaker 2: Benny Menesnia, who is Donald Trump. And at the moment, well,

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Speaker 2: at least in public, and there's some suggestions and in

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Speaker 2: private they've become very frustrated with the Israeli government, But

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Speaker 2: at the moment, in public, the White House is not

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Speaker 2: prepared to change its course.

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Speaker 1: Surely this has reached the point where with this cannot continue,

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Speaker 1: elis I mean, surely this is too far, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Well. I think a lot of people probably think we

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Speaker 2: you know, the war reached that point quite a long

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Speaker 2: time ago. Certainly, the renewed defensive and the escalated offensive

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Speaker 2: that the Israelis are now conducting, coupled with the fact

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Speaker 2: that Gars has been under siege for not far off

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Speaker 2: three months now, has changed opinions in the international political

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Speaker 2: and diplomatic world quite considerably. Now. You know, we'll see

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Speaker 2: whether people follow through on threats. We'll see whether or

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Speaker 2: not the EU in Britain and others do take out

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Speaker 2: sanctions against Israel, because that would be the next stage.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I think there is a feeling that Israel

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Speaker 2: has gone too far this time. And what I should

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Speaker 2: say is someone who has lived and reported on the

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Speaker 2: region for the last four years or so, I've noticed

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Speaker 2: that change in Israel as well. There are many Israelis,

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Speaker 2: probably the majority of Israelis if I'm guessing, who think

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Speaker 2: that this is the wrong course of action right now,

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Speaker 2: is not the best way to get their hostages out.

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Speaker 2: There is a political dynamic to it, for for Nettiyahu's

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Speaker 2: own political reasons, and they are opposed to it and

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Speaker 2: the damage that it's doing on their nation's reputation internationally.

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Speaker 1: All right, Alistair, thanks very much. He is hoping for

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Speaker 1: a resolution. It's Alista Bunkle, Middle East correspondent for Sky News.

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