1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew dickens on 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: Early Edition with one roof make your property search simple, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: use talks. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: It'd be well, good morning to here, and welcome to 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: your Monday. This is my last full week on Early 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: Edition one. We'll be back next week, which also means 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: that Heather, we'll be back on drive. What have we 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: got for you in the next sixty minutes where the 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 2: action plan for quarter two is out and free speech 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: on universities is a new focus. So how biased are 11 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: our campuses? And there's this crackdown really necessary? We'll have 12 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: that story for you in five. A disappointing day for 13 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson as his tire strategy fails in both Yuki 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: and his racing balls teammate beat him. Andrew Ordison on 15 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: Sport and ten are you ready for Treaty Principles Action 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Part two? We'll have that story for you in twenty 17 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: and the world has a weekend to think about the 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: tariff war and what will they be playing at we'll 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: look at that and go overseas. Just before six we'll 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: have correspondents from right around the world. Or morning long, 21 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: we'll have correspondents from right around the news feeling and 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: you can have your say anytime you like by giving 23 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: me a text. The number is ninety two ninety two. 24 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: A small charge applies at seven after five. 25 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: The agenda. 26 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: Well, it's Monday, the seventh of April. Hundreds have been 27 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: attending a rally in Paris to support far right leader 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: Maureen Lapin, who has been banned from running for office. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: The pen was found guilty for embezzling European funds to 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 2: finance her party, which she says she will appeal, and 31 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: speaking at the rally of the Pin says her conviction 32 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 2: was political and she will not give up. 33 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: We share a horror for bias, an injustice. Very difficult 34 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: for you, the people of France, who every day have 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: to face district god, to face the social, physical insecurity, 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: to face mistreatment in your own country, a denial of 37 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: your own culture and identity. 38 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 2: In the United States now, where protests again President Trump's 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: policies have been underway. In Washington it's called hands off. 40 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: In a social media post, Trump urged the US to 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: hang tough after the market turmoil. US's National Economic Council 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: Director Kevin Hassett says more than fifty countries have contacted 43 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: Trump to try to negotiate. Meanwhile, Elil Musk has been 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: talking in Italy and he has suggested a zero tariff 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: situation with the EU. 46 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: I'm hopeful, for example, the tariffs that at the end 47 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: of the day, I hope it has agreed that both 48 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: Europe and the United States should move ideally in my view, 49 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 4: to a zero tariff situation, effectively creating a free trade 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: zone between Europe and North America. 51 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: And finally, Francis has made his first public appearance at 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's Square in the Vatican after his discharge from hospital. 53 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: He spent five weeks in there. The eighty eight year 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: old was discharged from hospital in Rome after facing treatment 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: for double pneumonia on the twenty third of Man. 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: He took everybody by surprise today because when he was 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 5: discharged from the hospital two weeks ago exactly the doctors 58 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: prescribed that he have at least two months of a 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 5: protected convalescence and without meeting big crowds. And here he 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 5: was today absolutely contradicting that instruction from the doctors. 61 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: You can't keep the pope down. It is ten out five. 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 63 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make 64 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Your Property Search Simple, news talk zippy. 65 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: Hey, goodboding to you, Thank you so much for joining us. 66 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 6: Now. 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: Last week, the headline on my editorial when it was 68 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: posted on social media was the era of globalization is dead. 69 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: That was after the launching of the Tower War. Now 70 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: there's got a lot of people excited. People who have 71 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: never liked global free trade, people who have hated the 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: World Economic Forum. Some were saying that I never thought 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: they'd see a headline like that from Newstools MB and 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: they were deliriously happy. But if they read all my piece, 75 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: they realize I'm not cheering the new era. The era 76 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 2: of the blocks is what I call it. I understand 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 2: the hatred of many of globalization. It's killed local manufacturing 78 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: and jobs if another country can do it cheaper, and 79 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: other countries do it cheaper by mistreating their own workers. 80 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: But that's life, and no money comes into an economy 81 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 2: and makes the country richer if you don't sell stuff 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: to other economies. So you can rail against globalization if 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: your economy can be entirely self sustaining, and maybe Americas can, 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 2: but I don't think so. Ford became Ford not by 85 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: selling cars to just America, but by selling cars to 86 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: the world. And New Zealand knows this well. If globalization ended, 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: we'd be left with a market of just five point 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 2: five million, and we'd be paupers. We are who we 89 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: are because from day one we sold the world our food. 90 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: We are the original og globalizers. And any New Zealander 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: who hates globalization, I know there's a lot of you 92 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: out there. Any New Zealander who hates globalization wants New 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: Zealand to be an impoverished third world South Seas island 94 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: trading owly with ourselves. And if you hate globalization, maybe 95 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: you need to have a good hard look at the mirror, 96 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: and maybe you need to have a good long chat 97 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: with a farmer. 98 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens. 99 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: Now, this week's headlines was all about subdivisions and their pitfalls, 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: and the big one was about Milford and the Wairau 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Valley which is in Auckland. Now, these were the suburbs 102 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: and industrial zones that were flooded the most in the 103 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: Anniversary cyclone two years ago. Two people died, one hundred 104 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: and thirty one houses were left uninhabitable, and to prevent 105 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: it happening again. The Council's waste and the council's wastewater 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: managers they called Healthy Waters, came up with a plan 107 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: that would turn half the Takaputa Golf Club into a 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: wetland to hold five hundred and fifty million liters of floodwater. 109 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: Problem is it turns half the golf club into a lake, 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: a public course that attracts two hundred thousand rounds a year. 111 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 2: The golfers obviously were absolutely aghast there's being petitioned. Meanwhile, 112 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: the suburban dwellers are adamant that something has to happen. 113 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: They live in a very floodable suburb of floods that 114 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: kill people. The golfers have now come up with a 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: different plan. They reckon it prevents the course being lost 116 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: under water, and so the debate rages on. Maybe we'll 117 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: have a happy ending. But my question from this whole 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: thing is how come this work wasn't done in the 119 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 2: first place. When Milford was developed as a suburb, it 120 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 2: used to be a marshy valley floor it got converted 121 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 2: into a suburb. It took a rain event to show 122 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: us just how dumb that was. And this would be 123 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: the worry about the relaxation of resource management rules and 124 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 2: the rise of fast tracking. We got it all wrong 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: once when the old walls were in and who's to 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: say it's not going to happen again. While we had 127 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: another story, our new subdivision north of Auckland is in 128 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 2: the fast track process. But the original submission was for 129 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 2: two hundred and one houses. All of a sudden, it's 130 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: now for four hundred and fifty. Locals are worrying that's 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: too much. They're worrying about the corners that have been cut, 132 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: and they're worried about what it all means. Now, fast 133 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: track does not mean cheap track. It doesn't mean you 134 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: get a go pass go card. If you get it wrong, 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: then the legal work will cripple you. You'll be appealed to 136 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 2: the High Court and maybe even to the Supreme And 137 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: all developers really have to realize that your work has 138 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: to work, and it has to work long term. If 139 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: you're building a suburb, it cannot flood. Five fourteen. Right, 140 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: we're to quarter two of the government and you know 141 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: that they like action plans and they like to tell 142 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: us what their action plan is. So for quarter two 143 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: they want to get stuck into the universities and they 144 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: want to introduce legislation to require freedom of expression. They 145 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: reckon there's far too much censorship universities, is there. We'll 146 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: talk to a former university dean about whether there is 147 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: bias at our universities and whether the new legislation will help. 148 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: And that is next on News Talks abb. 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the headlines. On early edition Andrew Dickens 150 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: and One Room, Make Your Property Search Simple. 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: News Talks edb Well seventeen after five on a Monday 152 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: morning at Armandrew Dickens and the government wants to shake 153 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: up free speech laws in universities. Today's to day, it 154 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: releases its quarter II action plan and one of their 155 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: focuses includes introducing legislation to require freedom of expression in 156 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: our unis And now former Victoria University dean and now 157 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: New Zealand Initiative Research fellow doctor Michael Johnson is with 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: us and he joins me. Now, good morning to Michael. 159 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 7: Oh, good morning. I should point out I was an 160 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 7: associate dean, not a dean. 161 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 2: Oh, Okay, that's very important. Is this necessary? 162 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 7: I believe it is. And the New Zealand Initiative for 163 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 7: our work also does our research fellow James Kirsted published 164 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 7: a report last year that showed that high proportions of 165 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 7: academics and students feel intimidated to talk about certain topics 166 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 7: in the university and including things like the Treaty of 167 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 7: White Hongey and sex and gender issues surrounding that. So 168 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 7: a range of issues academics and students are feeling worried 169 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 7: about talking about, and we do need to beef up 170 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 7: protections for their ability to do so. 171 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: So I thought this was about freedom of speech, but 172 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: not the freedom to talk about treaty issues or gender issues. 173 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 7: Well, freedom of speech encompasses the ability to talk about 174 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 7: all kinds of things, and academics and students have to 175 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 7: have academic freedom to broach any topic that they want 176 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 7: to in the university environment. That's what universities are for. 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 7: They's supposed to be forums for discussion of all kinds 178 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 7: of different ideas. 179 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: So they can talk about treaty antender. 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 7: Issues, amongst other things. 181 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, is this problem institutional or is it amongst 182 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: the students or is it ingrained in the faculty? 183 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 7: Well, to some extent it's all three. There's evidence that 184 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 7: there's huge political bias within the faculty, so they lean 185 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 7: massively left. The student population almost certainly does as well. 186 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 7: But certainly some of these measures come from the sorry, 187 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 7: problems come from the university administration. So the problems in 188 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 7: all three of those bodies of people. 189 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: Okay, sir, in your opinion, what would the law look like? 190 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, the universities need to be reminded 191 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 7: of their obligation under the Education and Training Act to 192 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 7: protect academic freedom on our campuses. And we think that 193 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 7: that will only happened if the legislation has a bit 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 7: of teeth to it. So there needs to be some 195 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: kind of financial penalty for universities that consistently breach their members, 196 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 7: that as students or academics, academic freedom. 197 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: All right, Michael and I thank you so much for 198 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: your time. Michael the former Associate dean of Victoria University 199 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: and New Zealand Initiative Research Bay. It is five twenty 200 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, Mike and I were discussing Lean Lawson earlier. 201 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Maybe he's being found out. I'll talk about this with 202 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Andrew Orderson in a few moments time. 203 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: Jim on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition 204 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickens and one roof to make your property 205 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: search simple. 206 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 7: You talk, said Bee. 207 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 2: I've only been here two months. Eventually I'll get it. 208 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: I'm just keen to get on. I'm a little confused 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: about Michael Johnson. What he said. There is talking about 210 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: freedom of speech, but was there freedom to speak about 211 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: issues like treaty and gender issues or is it only 212 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: him to speak about things that people approve of? But 213 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you think? Ninety two? Ninety 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: two is a number. Andrew Ordison joins, we have though. 215 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: Greetings Andrew, I watched the Formula one. I'm a big 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 2: fan and I saw Lawson. He was overtaken by Yuki 217 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: on the first corner. He couldn't keep up with. Carlos 218 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: says he finished seventeenth, So No finished twelfth, Hadja in 219 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 2: a racing balls finished eighth and Mike and I said, 220 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: maybe he's being found out now, Yeah. 221 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 8: I think it's pretty sobering for I suppose he's the 222 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 8: old fans, Wilson fans to see that that year was 223 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 8: occurring out there, and maybe he sort of found his 224 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 8: place in the strata of win, the one where it 225 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 8: stands at the moments. 226 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: It's plenty seventeenth. Yeah, no, thank you. 227 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 8: Well, no, that's he's gonna have to take the reality 228 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 8: of it, Isn't he in confident? You know whether he 229 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 8: can come back from that and you know, shows true class. 230 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 8: I mean he's had I mean coming into this in 231 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 8: the previous years or have been such great performances. Perhaps 232 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 8: less pressure on him at that particular juncture, and it'll 233 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 8: be a test of his medal from here on in. 234 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely Bahrain his next now AUGENDFC. I also watched that 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: they unbeaten run now up to eleven games, which sounds good, 236 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: but they've only got seven points out of the fifteen 237 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: on offer over the last of a while. They sort 238 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: of are in a hole. Well debut season Edrew. I 239 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: think you take that leaving the table. 240 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 8: I'm really impressed with how they've put it together. It's 241 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 8: much because of what they've done on the field is 242 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 8: what they've done off it. You see black and blue 243 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 8: all around the town. The marketing has been outstanding. There's 244 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 8: some great packages that they've got together to go to games, 245 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 8: such especially for younger children, etc. Involved in the game 246 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 8: and embracing the fan base. I think it's been just 247 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 8: a copybook start to a ten year old slide. That's 248 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 8: slide at the north end. I really want to have 249 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 8: a crack on it. 250 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 2: It's massive. We could turn down slide. And I love 251 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: the fact that the traveling fans came all the way 252 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: from Sydney to come and see this and they were great. 253 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 2: But I do not like the fact that there was 254 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: a little bit of artibargi between the traveling fans and 255 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: the Auckland fans. That was because I that was that 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: we've got some new fans who think that that's part 257 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: of the game and it's not. 258 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 8: No, no, no, So they've got to stamp that out. 259 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 8: And I see they've come out pretty strongly on that 260 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 8: Nick Becker et cetera as to where they stand on 261 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 8: that sort of stuff. 262 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 2: So anyway, if they'd aside. 263 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 8: Pretty pretty convincing and what they're doing in Steve Carriker, 264 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 8: et cetera, you know, being able to piece together this 265 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 8: campaign from scratches is a monumental achievement. 266 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: Bake Ferns are champions sevens struggling yep, yep. 267 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 8: So yeah, Sarah Hereni and the team once again showing 268 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 8: their class, this time in Singapore and getting it. Of course, 269 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 8: they've got the finale to come next month in Los Angeles, 270 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 8: but overall champions once again. And I mean it's gonna 271 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 8: be an interesting because a few of the personnel and 272 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 8: their head off to fifteens, et cetera, with the World 273 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 8: Cup coming up later in the year. But they've stamped 274 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 8: their mark again in Singapore. 275 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 2: Good stuff. Andrew and Neils just sending a text saying 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: Andrew Yuki also got found out he wasn't in the points, 277 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: so you know, and Max started again showing his class absolutely. 278 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Andrew. It is a five twenty six. 279 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Are you ready for Treaty Principles Action Part two? Did 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: you even realize it was coming? I'll tell you that 281 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: in a. 282 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: Second the early edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio Power 283 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: by News. 284 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Talks at B News Talks a B. It is five 285 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 2: twenty seven. I'm Andrew Dickens. So it looks like the 286 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: Treaty Principles Actors toast as Christopher Luxon assured it it 287 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 2: would be. And much was made over the weekend that 288 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the submissions were against it. But you 289 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 2: know that means nothing at all if all the opposing 290 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: submissions were just photocopies of one, which I think a 291 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: lot of them were. Remember that Maori are organized. Anyone 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: who's seen their multiple hikoys and their awesome organization of 293 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: the King's Tongue, he should know that you underestimate Malory 294 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: at your own peril. They got organized and they swamped 295 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: the Select Committee. But it must also be noted that 296 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: the Act that that Acts Act was a bit of 297 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: a simplistic dog in my opinion, much of it already 298 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: covered by the Bill of Rights. At its heart, it 299 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: was three sentences designed to overthrow fifty years of legal development. 300 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: But is the movement against the Treaty Principles dead? No, 301 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: it is not. New Zealand. First one to have a crack. 302 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Winston Peters, being the experienced legislator that he is, wants 303 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: to amend all the existing Treaty Principles legislation that we 304 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: already have. If you remember, he went his election campaign 305 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: on it. And it is a smart way to achieve 306 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 2: real change because it's already in the law. You just 307 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: change the thing. As we approach the changeover between Peters 308 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: and Seymour of the Deputy PM role, Winston will have 309 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: the time and the energy to have a crack. So 310 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: welcome to round two of the Treaty Principle's debate, a 311 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: round that has much more chance to succeed. Andrew Dickens, 312 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: five twenty nine. Andrew, it shall be noted that the 313 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Associate Dean works for the New Zealand Institute, which is 314 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: a think tag that there is right. Thank you. Someone 315 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: else was saying that he uses those two topics as examples, 316 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: and true enough. But what I want to say is 317 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: freedom of speech. It's not about what you speak about, 318 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 2: it's what you ban. Right now, on the way, I've 319 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: got some Neil Finn and Dual Leaper for you. And 320 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 2: on the way we'll go to America and find out 321 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: how they've coped after the first weekend of tariffs. 322 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 4: Okay, home, Word's today Our fifty five years down the Road. 323 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 324 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your 325 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Property Search Simple. You've talked Sidy. 326 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 6: All right. 327 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: You know the song it's don't treat It's over And 328 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: this is live from due a Leap. It's Friday concert 329 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: in Auckland, where due Leiper butted Neil Finn up to 330 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 2: the day, and he started throwing his guitar and the 331 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: whole crowd sang along for this good song. What a 332 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: great choice by a Dua Leaper, and Neo Finn looked 333 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: as cool as and the night before. A couple of 334 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: nights beforehand, Julep did Royals by Lord as well, and 335 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 2: from all accounts, ju A Leaper was a magnificent concert. 336 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: Keeping with showbuses us. This is some good news that 337 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: the box office needed worldwide. The Minecraft movie exploded past 338 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 2: even the most optimistic of expectations and made up to 339 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars in America alone in 340 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: its opening weekend, including a twenty twenty five record of 341 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: fifty eight million on its opening day. They thought it 342 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: would make seventeen to eighty million. It made one hundred 343 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: and fifty million. And the reason I'm mentioning this is 344 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: because the Minecraft movie was made in New Zealand, fired 345 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: on by Jason Momoa, who's a big fan. He wants 346 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: to bring heaps of work here, thank you so much. Jason. 347 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: Jack blacks in the film as well. So this is 348 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of New Zealand on the movie screens 349 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: that has gone off. And finally the Liam defenders are 350 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 2: back and are here. So one writes, for heaven's sake, 351 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: you can't be in the points from fourteen on the grids, 352 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: starting that far behind, you need others to not finish 353 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: and scoring as a fluke. Come on, take your rose 354 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 2: tinted glasses off. You keep passed him on the first corner. 355 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 2: For a lot of the race, he ended up following 356 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: Carlos Saints. Carlos Saints left Liam behind. Carlos Saints passed 357 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: four cars, Liam passed none. And I think you'll find that. 358 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 2: I believe that he's been found out a bit and 359 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: I wish him only the best of luck. And I 360 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: know he's a good driver. But so far no, it 361 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 2: is a twenty one to six decades around the country. 362 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: We go call and proc to joys Is from Dunedin. Hello, Callum, 363 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: morning Andrew. So the infamous Hyde Street party from the 364 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 2: Otago University went off without a hitch And are you 365 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: telling me no wallabies were burnt this time? 366 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 9: Apparently not this time, no, but there was concerns after 367 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 9: the Saint Patrick Stay Antis that's right where students lead 368 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 9: off the fireworks. There were couches burnt and a wallaby 369 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 9: carcass thrown on a but not this time. Police were 370 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 9: pretty happy with the behavior of the thousands of costume 371 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 9: students that packed out the North Dunedin Street Hide Street 372 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 9: on Saturday for the annual event. Of course, it's had 373 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,479 Speaker 9: controversies over time, riots back in the day, most notably 374 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 9: in overcrowded Ruth Caveden in twenty twelve, but police monitor 375 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 9: the event closely to ensure the safety of all involved. 376 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 9: They say there were no incidents of note, no arrests 377 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 9: this year, and Saint John's say they had a very 378 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 9: light workload. How's your weather good for a start, but 379 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 9: showers developed later today possibly heavy. A salist change this 380 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 9: evening the high today twenty one to. 381 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: Christ Here as we go class you are good morning, 382 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: good morning, and back we go to the ongoing saga 383 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: that is christ Urge Hospital's car park. 384 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 10: Yes, and a possible solution for staff who've been impacted 385 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 10: by this lack of car parking for so many years now, 386 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 10: Heath get counselor and Merol hopeful Sarah Templeton is suggesting 387 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 10: that the five hundred and fifty car parks at the 388 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 10: new Partak Yoda Metro Sports Center, which is just a 389 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 10: block away be used for hospital workers at least overnight. 390 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 10: That facility is due to open later this year, but 391 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 10: the car park is currently sitting there. It's ready to 392 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 10: go on and it's not being used. She has written 393 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 10: to council staff for some advice on her idea, as 394 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 10: the center is situated about five hundred meters away from 395 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 10: work for these nurses and stuff. Templeton says hospital workers 396 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 10: are often concerned about the time they have to walk 397 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 10: to their car in the dark. She says her ideas 398 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 10: received support from workers so far, one person telling her 399 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 10: about a recent health the end zed bulletin that told 400 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 10: staff to be more careful when they leave work. How's 401 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 10: christ Church's weather today, Well, it's very foggy now but 402 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 10: should clear to fine early morning and evening cloud at 403 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 10: northwesterlies and a high of twenty four. 404 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: To Wellington we go, Max Tol, good morning, good morning. 405 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: Here come the local body elections and Labour still does 406 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: not have a candidate for the mayor. 407 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 11: No, and it's quite almost baffling. Why not the party's 408 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 11: Wellington branch just over the weekend announcing three new candidates 409 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 11: for council. You've got a claimate chain researcher, an environmental 410 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 11: policy advisor that sounds like the same thing, and a 411 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 11: Maori trust member for the Maldi Ward. The headline, though, 412 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 11: does remain the fact that they can't conjure a candidate 413 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 11: good enough to seemingly challenge Tory Faro, despite recent polling 414 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 11: shows that she's in an incredibly tenuous position. Justin Lester 415 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 11: was looked at seriously to run again. Flur fitz Simon's 416 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 11: apparently doesn't want to do it. We do know they 417 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 11: desperately do want to enter a candidate. They've gone until 418 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 11: August one. Perhaps Phil Goff might fancy have moved down south. 419 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 2: And how's Wellington's were there? 420 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 11: A few showers mostly fine around the middle of the day, 421 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 11: a high of twenty central. 422 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: And I think you never written man who joins me 423 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: from Walkanhella and evareetings. So the rubbish and organ's rubbish 424 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: tracks keeps going up and spoke keeps bursting into fighting. 425 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 12: That is correct. So Auckland Council's data release the newswork 426 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 12: zee Beach shows that the rubbish track fires costing text 427 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 12: payers rate payers about one hundred and forty eight thousand dollars. 428 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 12: This was just for last year. So already they've been 429 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 12: at least thirteen rubbish truck fires this year, costing up 430 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 12: to sixty five thousand dollars and is also costing forty 431 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 12: eight thousand per year for the recycling facility. So you 432 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 12: know what, Andrew, that's what we've got here. You know, 433 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 12: more and more items containing batteries. It's in you know, 434 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 12: everyday items like the laptops, phones, toothbrushes and vapes all 435 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 12: going up and smoke. Really so also we can tell 436 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 12: you that the most recent order of Auckland's coupside refuse 437 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 12: bins have revealed seventy one percent of bins containing the 438 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 12: electric waste. 439 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 2: How's Awkin's weather? 440 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 12: Okay, partly cloudy today, We've got a few showers, but 441 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 12: it will clear to fine whether by the afternoon. Twenty 442 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 12: two is a high. 443 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: And I thank you Neva read Amano whe there's now 444 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: eighteen minutes to six text through and this is true. 445 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: How Bright was the headhunter wanted by police returning to 446 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: New Zealand for a funeral, arrested at the airport. Thank 447 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: you Jack for your text is if you missed the 448 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: story over the weekend, this is a Hiphart guy who 449 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: runs the drag ring. He lives in Dubai. He lives 450 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: in Dubai, He drives luxury vehicles, he lives in luxury places. 451 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: He hangs out with luxury friends. But he had to 452 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: come home for a tonguey and so he thought I 453 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: could get away with us, and he flew in and 454 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: the cops s went, hello, welcome back to New Zealand. 455 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: Let's go off to the big house. What really concerned 456 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: me about that was not how done the headhunter guy was, 457 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: but more how rich the headhunter guy is and how 458 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: he's been masterminding operations out of Dubai. This meth thing, 459 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: this out drug problem is huge now to the markets. 460 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 2: The only time the United States has seen a two 461 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: day crash quite like Thursday and Friday was the GFC 462 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight COVID in the eighty seven 463 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 2: stop market crash. It was a biggie. The US down 464 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 2: ten point five percent over the two days. We are 465 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 2: expected to start on the back foot of Monday because 466 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: of that. However, the New Zealer market last week actually 467 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: had quite a good week. We were only down point 468 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: five percent, others down eight to ten percent, So that's 469 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 2: the good news. What is happening in America and how 470 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,479 Speaker 2: are the Americans feeling about it when they see their 471 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: market down ten point five percent and they see how 472 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: the rest of the world going. That's not fair. So 473 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: we'll go to an American correspondent just before six it 474 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: is now sixteen two six. On news talks, it be 475 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: international correspondence. 476 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 1: On youth talks, it be. 477 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 2: Richard Takes to me saying, tell your listeners not to 478 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 2: take the Kiwi Saver bellance a good, good advice, Kevin 479 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: great for the UK abody to you hither Andrew all right, 480 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: of course we're not chicking our Kiwi savers because of 481 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: the whole tariff war and now Jaguar and then Ro 482 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: the heads announced they're just going to pause things for 483 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: a while and chick out what's going down. Yeah, so the. 484 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 13: Prime Minister here saying that they're going to take stock 485 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 13: keep an eye on things. But actually time isn't the 486 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 13: luxury that car manufacturers in this country can afford, nor 487 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 13: the steel industry. Let's start with car manufacturers. Jaguar Landro 488 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 13: renouncing it's going to pause all shipments to the US, 489 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 13: and that of course is to quote address the new 490 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 13: trading terms. Of course, there was a twenty five percent 491 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 13: levy on car imports going into America announced by Donald Trump, 492 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 13: and the US is the second largest export market for 493 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 13: the UK's car industry, said in a twelve month period 494 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 13: to be worth roughly sixteen seventeen billion New Zealand dollars 495 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 13: a year, so this is, you know, reasonable sized stuff. 496 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 13: And the initial wave of tariffs are also going to 497 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 13: be followed up with an import tax on auto parts. 498 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 13: So it's interesting now to see what different car manufacturers 499 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 13: are doing. Jaguar Landrover luxury brand pausing in other words, 500 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 13: and not sending any more cars over to America from 501 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 13: its Coventry, its Midland s based manufacturing site. Nissan thinking 502 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 13: about moving some of its production of US bound vehicles 503 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 13: from Japan to America, and the carmaker Stilantis said it's 504 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 13: temporarily shutting down its assembly plant in Windsor in Canada. 505 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 13: So different responses from the car manufacturing groups. And regarding steel, 506 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 13: I'm afraid it looks like British steel is in big 507 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 13: trouble here in the UK, and it certainly looks like 508 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 13: those extra tariffs are going to make life there very 509 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 13: very difficult for it. 510 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, a Nissan, I understand has been talking about actually 511 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: building some manufacturing plants in the United States of America 512 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 2: to get round it, so that would actually be Trump's 513 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: little policy actually working. So let's move to Rome, and 514 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 2: the Pope has been a naughty boy, ignoring medical advice. 515 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 13: He has because, having spent some weeks in hospital, he 516 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 13: was told not to really do anything for several weeks. However, 517 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 13: for the first time since he was rushed into hospital 518 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 13: in Rome, he has made his first public appearance. He 519 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 13: was released from hospital a fortnight ago, and the eighty 520 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 13: eight year old, having spent five weeks there, was then 521 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 13: told to take several weeks off. However, he appeared in 522 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 13: a previously unannounced move, entering s Peter Square in a 523 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 13: wheelchair shortly before noon that local time noon and the 524 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 13: end of the celebration of a Mass for the Catholic 525 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 13: Church's jubilee year. There were applauding crowds. There were many 526 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 13: pleased to see him. There were also some who were 527 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 13: evidently quite shocked at his appearance. He did look really 528 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 13: pretty weak. His voice did sound stronger than when he'd 529 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 13: first addressed well wishers outside the hospital. But yeah, plenty 530 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 13: of people commenting on his appearance looking pretty gaunt and 531 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 13: also with being fed. It looks like oxygen through his 532 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 13: nose as well, So trying to keep making sure that 533 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 13: he's getting oxygen to his various organs. But nevertheless, as 534 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 13: I said, great to see him up and about, but yeah, 535 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 13: further concern about his general overall health. 536 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: He needs the people, and the people need him. And 537 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 2: Gavin Gray from the UK, thank you so much. It 538 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: is ten to. 539 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: Six Andrew Dickens. 540 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: The world has been the world has been continuing to 541 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: react to trump'st tariff's announcements. Over the weekend. The stock 542 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: market in America was a said spectacle, as I've told you, 543 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: or really Thursday Friday, the SMP felt ten point five percent. Remarkably, 544 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 2: New Zealand did quite well, falling zero point five percent. 545 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: Experts warned the tariffs could push up prices for consumers. 546 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is urging the United States to hang tough 547 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: because it's not pleasant for them right now. Washington Bureau 548 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: chief for the Guardian is David Smith, and David Smith 549 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: joins me now, good morning to you. Laurie took us 550 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: through the reaction in the United States people are protesting 551 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: and tell us about hands off. 552 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think people are still bewildered and somewhat horrified 553 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: for the most part by these taffs, and even loyalist 554 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 6: to Donald Trump and the Republican Party are struggling to 555 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 6: deal with it, and some of them a critical or 556 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 6: even floating legislation to curtail pumps power over tariff. Larry Summers, 557 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 6: the former Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, describes this as 558 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 6: the greatest self inflicted wound on the American economy in history. 559 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, the stock market, they're six trillion 560 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 6: dollars wiped off in just a couple of days last week. 561 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 6: And yes, that helped fuel protests that were going to 562 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: happen already yesterday and Saturday, the hands off protests in 563 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 6: New York, Washington, Dickies, all across America, millions of people 564 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 6: taking to the streets to demonstrate against Donald Trump and 565 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: Elon Musk and all they've done so far, and the 566 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 6: process seemed peaceful, determined. I think there's a general feeling 567 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: or at least a hope that you know, this was 568 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: the week when the resistance to Trump really started to 569 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 6: wake up after weeks of being somewhat somewhat mused. 570 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Donald Trump campaigned on this. Donald 571 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Trump got a popular mandate to do this, and so 572 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: Donald Trump went and did this, so they can't be surprised. 573 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: And Donald Trump said it all along. It's going to 574 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 2: be tough, and he once again has repeated that, urging 575 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: people to hang tough. So is there any faith that 576 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: the markets will change and that this will work eventually? 577 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 6: Well, it's only true. Trump did say on the campaign 578 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 6: trail he would impose tariff, and I think maybe even 579 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 6: some of his own supporters wonders if it was one 580 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 6: of those moments where Trump says one thing to sound 581 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 6: tough but doesn't actually follow through. And I'm sure many 582 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 6: Republicans were hoping that. But this is a promise he 583 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 6: has kept. And you know, today on the Sunday morning 584 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 6: TV shows, which always a big part of the political diet, 585 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: You've heard contradictory messages from Trump's cabinet members where this 586 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 6: is going, some saying he's absolutely determined to stick with 587 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 6: it come what may. It's a real core belief of 588 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, going back to the eighties, that America is 589 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 6: being ripped off and that tarifs are the solution, but 590 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 6: other cabinet members suggesting perhaps they're useful leverage, they're a 591 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 6: bargaining tool. In the coming weeks, there'll be lots of 592 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 6: foreign leaders calling to maybe negotiate side deals and give 593 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 6: Trump some room to back away from these tariffs. And 594 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 6: what we don't know is whether the decline of the 595 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 6: stock market will force his hand. In the past, seems 596 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 6: to care a lot about the stock market. Maybe it will, 597 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 6: maybe it will get through to him eventually. But you 598 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: still a great deal of uncertainty here about where this 599 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 6: is going. And I think you know, all eyes again 600 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 6: will be on the market this this coming week to 601 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 6: see this there's nose dives continues and becomes something like 602 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 6: a crash or a recession. 603 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 2: Chod stuff. David Smiths from the Washington Bureau of The Guardian. 604 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 2: He campaigned on it, You've voted for it. You got it. 605 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 2: Surprise not six to six. 606 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof to make 607 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: your property search simple, youth dog zibby. 608 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: My costin Good morning to you. I see you had 609 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 2: a dying baby red at your place and your advice 610 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 2: was to hit it with a gun boot and I 611 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 2: thought the beck of a spade was actually the except 612 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: could have been the spide. 613 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 14: Difficulty with the Spide. For people who haven't followed this, 614 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 14: this was on my wife's social media. Apparently it was 615 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 14: a thing. 616 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 2: Yes, it was. 617 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 14: Is the spades quite the distance from the scene of 618 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 14: the crime, it's a little wings so it was a 619 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 14: good tenant walk to go get the spade. 620 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 6: I did. 621 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: I did go. 622 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 14: I did go get a spade, but then I brought 623 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 14: the spade back, but the mouse slash rat had gone, 624 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 14: so we left the spade out until we couldn't find it. 625 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 14: Then I had to walk ten minutes back to put 626 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 14: the spade away. So anyway, Scott's our man country. He is, indeed, 627 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 14: and he's he's there today. 628 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 2: And that's why that's why their baby rat was dying, 629 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 2: because he'd already killed it. I think, so there's no 630 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 2: problem there. 631 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 14: That's what I kept saying. I said, the thing's a dying, 632 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 14: don't don't worry. Don't make you anyway. Chris Luxon in 633 00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 14: this morning, and a lot to talk about. They put 634 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 14: out the new Q two. You know, here's the things 635 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 14: we're going to do, so we'll have them. 636 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: After sep and thirty super My Name Is Andrew Dickens 637 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: back tomorrow? 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