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Speaker 1: No, now, listen, let's talk about what's going on here, okay,

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Speaker 1: with the citizens arrest. If you listen to parenting experts,

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Speaker 1: you can hear the same thing time and time and

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Speaker 1: time again about raising kids properly. Kids need love, but

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Speaker 1: just as important, and someone actually say more important, they

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Speaker 1: need boundaries. They need to be told no, They need

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Speaker 1: to be disciplined. They need to learn what they can

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Speaker 1: and cannot do, and if you don't do that properly

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Speaker 1: as their parent, you basically ruin their chances at success

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Speaker 1: later in life. Now, bear that in mind when you

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Speaker 1: hear people like the Children's Commissioner arguing that kids should

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Speaker 1: be off limits on citizens arrests, because, of course, at

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Speaker 1: the moment what is happening, the government is proposing a

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Speaker 1: law change to allow retailers or security guards or even

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Speaker 1: you and I if we want to to hold a

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Speaker 1: shoplifter in a citizen's arrest until the cops can get

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Speaker 1: their intakeover. Now, the Children's Commissioner is well meaning because

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Speaker 1: she doesn't want kids hurt, because these things can go badly,

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Speaker 1: especially if you've got the worst case scenario playing out

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Speaker 1: like we have seen, which is where you've got weapons involved.

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Speaker 1: You've got the kids turning up armed with hammers and

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Speaker 1: knives and so on to raid a store. Now, while

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Speaker 1: the Children's commissioner means well, though, she is wrong because

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Speaker 1: a loophole like that that says adults can be held

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Speaker 1: down but kids can't, will be exploited, and it will

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Speaker 1: be exploited by adults. Gangs already use kids to commit

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Speaker 1: their ram raids, They already use them to commit their

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Speaker 1: thefts because they know that kids get off more likely

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Speaker 1: than they would. If you make a rule that kids

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Speaker 1: are allowed to escape but adult adults get held down,

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Speaker 1: you only make it more likely that they do. Send

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Speaker 1: the kids in, thereby making it more likely that the

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Speaker 1: kids up. Kids end up ruining their life's chances, which

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Speaker 1: brings us back to the very start of what I

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Speaker 1: was saying. Kids need boundaries, and it's not just from

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Speaker 1: their parents, it's also from the state. So if we

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Speaker 1: do citizens arrests for the adult crims, we also have

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Speaker 1: to do citizens arrest for the kiddie crims. For more

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