1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:11,453 Speaker 1: from News Talks. 3 00:00:11,453 --> 00:00:14,693 Speaker 2: A'd be Kevin mill Is here for the first time 4 00:00:14,733 --> 00:00:16,693 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. Older Kevin, Good. 5 00:00:16,493 --> 00:00:20,813 Speaker 1: Morning, KOA. Now, now, did I hear on the news 6 00:00:20,853 --> 00:00:24,933 Speaker 1: before this show Donald Trump say he deserved to be 7 00:00:25,093 --> 00:00:29,173 Speaker 1: the Nobel Peace Prize winner more than anyone else in 8 00:00:29,213 --> 00:00:29,733 Speaker 1: the history. 9 00:00:30,173 --> 00:00:32,413 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, I don't. I don't know, but 10 00:00:32,853 --> 00:00:35,093 Speaker 2: if he did, I mean, that would be entirely the 11 00:00:35,133 --> 00:00:39,093 Speaker 2: sort of thing I would expect him to say. 12 00:00:39,333 --> 00:00:41,333 Speaker 1: The guy's made. I'm sorry, that's made. 13 00:00:42,653 --> 00:00:46,293 Speaker 2: Well, that's gonna lie up. I mean, look, he yeah, 14 00:00:46,413 --> 00:00:49,053 Speaker 2: I'm I'm not sure. I'm not sure that that going 15 00:00:49,053 --> 00:00:52,413 Speaker 2: in and taking Nicholas Maduro was necessarily the sort of 16 00:00:52,453 --> 00:00:56,333 Speaker 2: thing that the Nobel Committee Prize Committee is going to 17 00:00:56,333 --> 00:00:59,613 Speaker 2: be looking upon with very fondly come judging for the 18 00:00:59,653 --> 00:01:01,933 Speaker 2: next Nobel Peace Prize. But look, we wait and see, 19 00:01:01,973 --> 00:01:05,533 Speaker 2: you know, very interesting times, very interesting times, Kevin. I 20 00:01:05,533 --> 00:01:07,893 Speaker 2: hope you've had a good start to twenty twenty six 21 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:09,733 Speaker 2: and a nice summer so far. 22 00:01:10,093 --> 00:01:13,613 Speaker 1: Good to hear it. And well, the summer was awful 23 00:01:13,653 --> 00:01:16,053 Speaker 1: down here, but we went up to Mount Manganui for 24 00:01:16,093 --> 00:01:20,053 Speaker 1: a while. And the Mount Manganui what a place when 25 00:01:20,293 --> 00:01:22,813 Speaker 1: riding in the peak of summer. Yeah, it is just 26 00:01:23,093 --> 00:01:25,613 Speaker 1: superb in my opinion. Yeah, yeah it is. 27 00:01:26,293 --> 00:01:29,853 Speaker 2: It's picturesque and and that beach, oh my goodness. 28 00:01:29,973 --> 00:01:32,973 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh superb, isn't it? I mean I live 29 00:01:33,053 --> 00:01:35,573 Speaker 1: on the beach down here, but it makes the speech 30 00:01:35,573 --> 00:01:37,013 Speaker 1: for pretty ordinary to be honest. 31 00:01:37,173 --> 00:01:40,973 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, there's there's something 32 00:01:40,973 --> 00:01:42,853 Speaker 2: to be said for the sand color isn't here and 33 00:01:43,533 --> 00:01:46,013 Speaker 2: not having to go at the carpty ghost. But yeah, 34 00:01:46,133 --> 00:01:47,893 Speaker 2: when you're at the mountain is at the next level, 35 00:01:47,973 --> 00:01:50,893 Speaker 2: isn't it? And next level and as well as a 36 00:01:50,893 --> 00:01:53,293 Speaker 2: bit of beach time given a heavy weight has just 37 00:01:53,333 --> 00:01:54,533 Speaker 2: been lifted from your shoulders. 38 00:01:55,493 --> 00:01:58,853 Speaker 1: Yes, it was cause for much celebration. Actually, Jack, For 39 00:01:58,893 --> 00:02:01,653 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I've been running dangerously close 40 00:02:02,013 --> 00:02:05,533 Speaker 1: to having the driver's license suspended. This is due to 41 00:02:05,653 --> 00:02:09,933 Speaker 1: speeding tech. It's largely due to a wallopping fifty de 42 00:02:10,133 --> 00:02:12,333 Speaker 1: merit point fine that I got a couple of years 43 00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:15,893 Speaker 1: ago for driving thirty six k over the speed limit. 44 00:02:16,053 --> 00:02:19,653 Speaker 1: Now it wasn't that reckless. I'd been caught doing eighty 45 00:02:19,693 --> 00:02:22,573 Speaker 1: six k's on a little road that usually had an 46 00:02:22,653 --> 00:02:26,693 Speaker 1: eighty K limit that had been temporarily reduced to fifty K, 47 00:02:27,093 --> 00:02:30,173 Speaker 1: which I hadn't noticed. So I copped a hefty fine 48 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:34,013 Speaker 1: and the fifty de merit points, which I accepted as 49 00:02:34,253 --> 00:02:38,653 Speaker 1: entirely my own fault. But the thing was I already 50 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:43,413 Speaker 1: had twenty demerit points for speeding, and shortly after copped 51 00:02:43,453 --> 00:02:46,973 Speaker 1: another twenty demerit points, so I ended up with ninety 52 00:02:47,013 --> 00:02:51,693 Speaker 1: demerit points one hundred India license has suspended one more 53 00:02:51,733 --> 00:02:54,733 Speaker 1: offense in the next two years, and my license would 54 00:02:54,773 --> 00:02:59,053 Speaker 1: be carput. I did not want that, so I undertook 55 00:02:59,093 --> 00:03:03,213 Speaker 1: a review of my driving habits. This included two things. 56 00:03:03,333 --> 00:03:07,373 Speaker 1: Jack One, I stopped using the sport mode on the car. 57 00:03:07,613 --> 00:03:12,333 Speaker 1: Oh fabulous, fabulous thing, but it was getting me into 58 00:03:12,373 --> 00:03:16,853 Speaker 1: too much trouble too. By mutual consent, Linda and I 59 00:03:17,013 --> 00:03:22,333 Speaker 1: instituted what you'd call legitimate nagging when we were driving 60 00:03:22,373 --> 00:03:25,373 Speaker 1: together every time I drifted over the speed limits she 61 00:03:25,413 --> 00:03:29,333 Speaker 1: had pointed out. I was astonished how often I was 62 00:03:29,413 --> 00:03:34,013 Speaker 1: driving too fast. Anyway, I haven't had another speeding ticket 63 00:03:34,053 --> 00:03:37,733 Speaker 1: in nearly two years, and because demerit points drop off 64 00:03:37,773 --> 00:03:41,373 Speaker 1: after two years, I now have only twenty left on 65 00:03:41,453 --> 00:03:45,373 Speaker 1: the record, I've avoided losing a license. I think a 66 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:46,573 Speaker 1: weight off from the shoulders. 67 00:03:46,653 --> 00:03:48,373 Speaker 2: No, I'm pleased to hear it. 68 00:03:49,213 --> 00:03:51,813 Speaker 1: What all this says, Jack, is that for many of us, 69 00:03:52,533 --> 00:03:56,613 Speaker 1: demerit points can be a far greater threat than fines, 70 00:03:56,733 --> 00:03:59,693 Speaker 1: which you curse when you get them, you pay them 71 00:03:59,733 --> 00:04:03,533 Speaker 1: off and forget about. But demerit points forced me, through 72 00:04:03,973 --> 00:04:08,613 Speaker 1: fear of having the license has spended to readjust my driving, 73 00:04:09,133 --> 00:04:10,373 Speaker 1: hopefully for good. 74 00:04:10,533 --> 00:04:14,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I tend to agree. I think i'd feel 75 00:04:14,133 --> 00:04:17,253 Speaker 2: the same way. Although we please know, Kevin that I 76 00:04:17,293 --> 00:04:19,253 Speaker 2: have never had a speeding ticket. 77 00:04:20,373 --> 00:04:20,613 Speaker 1: Never. 78 00:04:21,813 --> 00:04:24,173 Speaker 2: I once got pulled over on the New Jersey Turnpike 79 00:04:24,573 --> 00:04:26,293 Speaker 2: driving a hole faster than I should have been because 80 00:04:26,293 --> 00:04:29,293 Speaker 2: I hadn't realized that that the speed limit had changed. 81 00:04:29,293 --> 00:04:31,933 Speaker 2: But I managed to play that. Oh sorry, I'm just 82 00:04:31,973 --> 00:04:35,493 Speaker 2: from New Zealand, cart to the state trooper, who was 83 00:04:35,693 --> 00:04:39,293 Speaker 2: sufficiently charmed and let me off. But no, no, but 84 00:04:39,653 --> 00:04:42,533 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think it's that same thing when they, 85 00:04:42,853 --> 00:04:46,053 Speaker 2: you know, when we think about having purport having fines 86 00:04:46,093 --> 00:04:49,613 Speaker 2: that are proportionate to people's income or wealth, right when 87 00:04:49,653 --> 00:04:51,453 Speaker 2: they say, oh, you know that there are places around 88 00:04:51,493 --> 00:04:53,093 Speaker 2: the world and say, oh, well, some people, if you 89 00:04:53,173 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 2: earn a lot of money, then your fine is going 90 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:56,573 Speaker 2: to be ten thousand dollars and you think, okay, well 91 00:04:56,813 --> 00:05:00,133 Speaker 2: you probably would make me think twice. But yeah, I'm 92 00:05:00,613 --> 00:05:02,053 Speaker 2: pleased to hear it, very pleased. 93 00:05:02,173 --> 00:05:04,573 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it was. It was a nerve 94 00:05:04,573 --> 00:05:07,933 Speaker 1: wracking time and I frankly didn't think I'd last two 95 00:05:08,013 --> 00:05:11,253 Speaker 1: years without losing it. But I was getting so many 96 00:05:11,293 --> 00:05:16,653 Speaker 1: spreading tickets. Yeah, but yeah, canning the canning the sports 97 00:05:16,693 --> 00:05:17,373 Speaker 1: made was great. 98 00:05:17,373 --> 00:05:18,413 Speaker 2: It was a wise decision. 99 00:05:18,493 --> 00:05:23,453 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's my good bit of news for 100 00:05:23,493 --> 00:05:24,453 Speaker 1: the Saturday time. 101 00:05:24,493 --> 00:05:27,693 Speaker 2: I'm pleased to hear it you, Yeah, and pleased to 102 00:05:27,733 --> 00:05:30,333 Speaker 2: hear that. Yeah, you've had a nice summer so far 103 00:05:30,413 --> 00:05:31,973 Speaker 2: and you've been up to the mountain. That's fantastic. 104 00:05:32,013 --> 00:05:32,333 Speaker 1: Give us. 105 00:05:32,333 --> 00:05:34,693 Speaker 2: I look forward to our conversations throughout twenty twenty six. 106 00:05:34,773 --> 00:05:37,253 Speaker 2: Kevin melm with us for the first time this year. 107 00:05:37,773 --> 00:05:40,853 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live 108 00:05:40,973 --> 00:05:43,773 Speaker 1: to news talks he'd be from nine am Saturday, or 109 00:05:43,853 --> 00:05:45,773 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.