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Speaker 1: Good news on tourism given just yesterday we had yet

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Speaker 1: more numbers that reminded us were still not back to

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Speaker 1: where we were post COVID and we're dragging the chain

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Speaker 1: of but here. So the government's rejected a plan to

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Speaker 1: ban cruise ships from entering Milford's Sound. Now the idea

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Speaker 1: has been around for several years. They want to close

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Speaker 1: the yestrip as well, the claim being the ships blocked

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Speaker 1: the scenic views of land based visitors. So Jackie Lloyd

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Speaker 1: is the Cruise Association's boss and as well as Jackie morning.

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Speaker 2: To you, good morning mate.

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Speaker 1: So a good move, very good move.

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Speaker 2: We're delighted with the outcome.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so did you have to lobby or was this

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Speaker 1: just a government who wants to get on with tourism

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Speaker 1: and it was sort of a phato complee.

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Speaker 2: I think it's been a mix of both. Over the

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Speaker 2: last four years, we've definitely been lobbying and advocating for

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Speaker 2: crew's access. There's been an agreement with Environments Southland that

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Speaker 2: all the cruise lines sign up to to ensure that

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Speaker 2: there's managed access center the sound. So a lot of

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Speaker 2: that work had already been done and now we have

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Speaker 2: a government that's very interested in tourism growth. So it's

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Speaker 2: the stars are aligned, if you like.

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Speaker 1: Where does Milford sit in the grand scheme of things

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Speaker 1: tourism wise for cruises in this country.

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Speaker 2: It's very similar to land based. You see the amount

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Speaker 2: of people that want to get to Melford when there,

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Speaker 2: when they're coming to New Zealand. It's an icon of

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Speaker 2: a New Zealand itinery, be it on land or by sea,

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Speaker 2: and certainly a critical port call for both New Zealand

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Speaker 2: and South Island itinery. So the option to possibly lose

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Speaker 2: Melford meant that we could see a reduction, further reduction

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Speaker 2: and cruise visits to New Zealand and certainly to the

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Speaker 2: South Island.

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Speaker 1: This business. They wanted to close the airstrip, and I

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Speaker 1: think the astrip was a bit dodgy, but they know

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Speaker 1: they've got some money now to do something about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are people anti tourism? I mean to close

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Speaker 1: in the air strip and prevent a ship from going

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Speaker 1: in one of them? I mean, you're just asking for trouble,

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Speaker 1: aren't you. I mean, you either want to grow the

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Speaker 1: country or you don't.

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Speaker 2: You do you did, right? But it's so it's the

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Speaker 2: need to be managed about it. You know, the cruise

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Speaker 2: ships don't just arrive on the day. They're often booked

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Speaker 2: two years in advance. As I said, there's an agreement

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Speaker 2: with Environment Southland on the locations they can go, the

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Speaker 2: timings that they can enter, the sounds, the amount of

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Speaker 2: ships that can be any part of Humland at any

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Speaker 2: one time. So it's not just a willing MILLI tourism.

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Speaker 2: It is managed and I think the airstrip is the same.

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Speaker 2: As long as tourism is managed, I think that we

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Speaker 2: have a really good focus going forward.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jackie, nice to talk to you. Jackie Lloyd,

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