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Speaker 1: I got some veggie trouble back home though, the horticultural

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Speaker 1: industry warming and warning of a potential food security christ

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Speaker 1: which resource management reforms the issue here the vegies New

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Speaker 1: Zealand chair as John Murphy, of course, who was back

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Speaker 1: with us John morning. How much of this is all

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Speaker 1: pre release hype and you rounding up the troops and

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Speaker 1: going what pull up versus stuff that's actually happening, Because

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Speaker 1: this reform is coming through eventually, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: It is coming, But make the mistake about it. This

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Speaker 2: is an issue right now. Our growers in areas such

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Speaker 2: as hot A, Fine and other key areas face the

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Speaker 2: real prospect of a over zealous local authority official pulling

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Speaker 2: up the driveway and saying don't grow the anymore. And

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Speaker 2: that would have a massive effect on digital sployer and

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Speaker 2: his which is not good.

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Speaker 1: No, this is the Horizon council you speak of. This

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Speaker 1: is in Palmerston North. Having said all of that, how

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Speaker 1: much of this is retrospective? In other words, they've discovered

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Speaker 1: a problem or there's some sort of scrap over the

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Speaker 1: current laws vers is what may well come to pass

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Speaker 1: in the reform.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's important to note that this is

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Speaker 2: the key time as the reform is happening, and we

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Speaker 2: still don't have a commitment that recognizes supply of freehealthy

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Speaker 2: food as part of the new rama. We need that

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Speaker 2: needs to explicitly be in there as a priority, and

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Speaker 2: it is deustrates for our growers. And that's why, to

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Speaker 2: his credit, we've seen Shane Jones suggests grandfathering of current

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Speaker 2: consents because it is urgent now. The reason he's done

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Speaker 2: that is that he trusts our growers and he should

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Speaker 2: we grow well and we have assurance schemes that prove that.

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Speaker 1: He's on your side. I get all of that. Part

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Speaker 1: of the problem, correct me. If I'm wrong, would be

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Speaker 1: if it becomes too hard you're growing your letters and

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Speaker 1: brassicas and all that sort of stuff. If someone comes

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Speaker 1: along and causes trouble, you just go, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm out. I'll sell the land converted something else. Is

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Speaker 1: that how it works?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a very real prospect. And the burden

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Speaker 2: of regulation is just massive here. And I think you

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Speaker 2: heard the Prime Minister talk about barnacles on the boat

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Speaker 2: slowing us down earlier in the week, which we all

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Speaker 2: had a bit of a laugh at but this isn't

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Speaker 2: a barnacle, and the boat slowing us down as a

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Speaker 2: hole in the boat. The boat sinks, growers are gone.

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Speaker 2: It's not the vegetable supplot.

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Speaker 1: There all right. Well, I wish you, I wish you

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Speaker 1: the best weather. John will stay in touch and see

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Speaker 1: where it goes. I'm moderately confident people ain't. Shane Jones

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Speaker 1: seem to get it. John Murphy, Who's vegetable New Zealand.

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