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Speaker 1: You're listening to this Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be.

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Speaker 2: Catherine Rains is with us now to talk boox. Good morning, Catherine,

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: How are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm really good, Thank you. I'm very keen to hear

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Speaker 2: your thoughts on Martha's Vineyard, Beach and book Club by

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Speaker 2: Martha Hall Kelly. I'm very fascinated in this part of

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: Me too, and I think that's that Martha's Vineyard is

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Speaker 3: a title of it is what really drew me to it.

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Speaker 3: But it's a historical time slip novel that's set over

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Speaker 3: two time periods, nineteen forty two and two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen forty two, it's this portrayal of life on

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Speaker 3: the home front for a women who live and struggle

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Speaker 3: on Martha's Vineyard in the early days of World War Two.

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Speaker 3: And the book clubs it's more of a front for

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Speaker 3: their wartime activities and love affairs. And it's mainly told

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Speaker 3: from the point of view of three different women in

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Speaker 3: those two different time periods. And in twenty sixteen you

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Speaker 3: met Marie Sherwood, who's looking for answers to her family's history.

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Speaker 3: In Martha's vineyard, and she decides to go to the

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Speaker 3: island because she really wants to interview this famous painter

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Speaker 3: about her mother's late her late mother's connection to this island.

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Speaker 3: So when she arrives on the island, she's under the

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Speaker 3: rus of taking a painting class, and she meets Elizabeth Devereaux,

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Speaker 3: this painter, and she begins talking to Elizabeth and sharing

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Speaker 3: the story of these two sisters, the Smith sisters, who

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Speaker 3: lived on the island during World War two, and she

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Speaker 3: realizes that she's very connected to this past. And the

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Speaker 3: story then also focuses on Cadence and Bria Smith, who

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Speaker 3: living with their grandmother on the island and they're really

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Speaker 3: struggling to keep a roof over their heads. In forty two,

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Speaker 3: their brother Tom is serving as an army ranger and

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Speaker 3: has been shipped overseas, and along with Bess Tom's fiance,

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Speaker 3: they are carrying on the family farm and their soldiers

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Speaker 3: arriving on the island, and there's rumors of spies circulating

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Speaker 3: and this mysterious stranger that apparently washes ashore, and their

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Speaker 3: lives take this very unexpected turn, and they create this

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Speaker 3: wartime book Clap to give them a sense of escape

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Speaker 3: and connection, but tensions rise and they risk standing up

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Speaker 3: for what they know, the risks that come up, sorry,

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Speaker 3: the risks that come with standing up for what you

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Speaker 3: believe in. And the book intertwines the past and present

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Speaker 3: really well, and while buried secrets become become a parent

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Speaker 3: and you get very immersed in the story. And Martha

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Speaker 3: Hall Kelly tells her an excellent story that keeps you

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Speaker 3: really wanting to know what happens next.

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Speaker 2: It reminds me a little bit of the Guernsey Literary

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Speaker 2: and Potato Peel part Society, where once again you sort

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Speaker 2: of had this group hiding behind a society instead of

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Speaker 2: doing wartime things. And I've got the right book, can I?

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Speaker 3: Yes you have, Yes, you have, And yeah, no, they

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Speaker 3: do feel very alike. Actually, you're very very spot on

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Speaker 3: with that.

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Speaker 2: Now, tell me about the warrior Rafael Nadal and his

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Speaker 2: Kingdom of Clay by Christopher Cleary.

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Speaker 3: So Christopher Clary had already has already written a book

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Speaker 3: about Roger Federer, and on this one he obviously talks

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Speaker 3: about Rafael Nadell. And Nadell is now of course retired

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Speaker 3: from tennis, and he remains living in Manuca and island

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Speaker 3: off the coast of Spain, which has about fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: people on it, and it's where he grew up and

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Speaker 3: it's also where his State of the Tennis Academy is now.

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Speaker 3: And it takes you back to Nadal's childhood and in

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Speaker 3: Spain where most of the courts are clay, and you know,

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Speaker 3: six year old Nadal's playing with adults, and you know,

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Speaker 3: he has this top spin forehands that you know were

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Speaker 3: next level speed, and that's really what sets him apart

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Speaker 3: in his career. And you know, that talks about when

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Speaker 3: he first played at the French Open in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and five and the record there for men's titles seemed

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Speaker 3: completely out of reach. Bon Borg had six back in

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Speaker 3: the early nineties. And it talks a lot about Nadal's

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Speaker 3: winning attributes and how he always manages to stay in

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Speaker 3: the moment better than his rivals. And you know, a

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Speaker 3: lot of this is before the distractions of social media

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Speaker 3: and cameras and streaming videos and you know, but staying

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Speaker 3: in the moment's always been one of those really hard

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Speaker 3: things as a tennis player. And he has some interesting

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Speaker 3: route when he was out on court. You know, the

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Speaker 3: wild ticks and the pools and the wipes before you

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Speaker 3: see and perform between every point. And it's his way,

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Speaker 3: I guess, of staying in the zone. And one of

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Speaker 3: the points that kind of stuck with me is he

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Speaker 3: never once threw a broke his record at his tennis

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Speaker 3: racket in the entire time. And I guess if you

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Speaker 3: don't play tennis, you don't realize the frustration that can

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Speaker 2: Very impressive considering the level he was playing. Caen, do

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Speaker 2: you need to love tennis to enjoy this book?

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Speaker 3: I don't think you need to be a lover of tennis.

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Speaker 3: I think I mean, obviously you need to be interested

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Speaker 3: in sports, but you know it talks about his competitive

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Speaker 3: business and how you know playing every point for him

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Speaker 3: was like match point, and you know that real doggedness

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Speaker 3: and determination and you know his uncle that was his coach,

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Speaker 3: and you know that volume and intensity with what he

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Speaker 3: plays for and that ability to outlast his opponents and

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Speaker 3: a record fourteen wins on will you know fourteen clay

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Speaker 3: caught tournaments? I mean that is that is amazing in

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Speaker 3: any sport, that he managed to reach that pinnacle that

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Speaker 3: many times.

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Speaker 2: Catherine rains, thank you so much, for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. The two books that Catherine spoke about

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Speaker 2: Martha's Vineyard, Beach and Book Club by Martha Hall Kelly,

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Speaker 2: and also The Warrior Raphael Nadal and His Kingdom of

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Speaker 2: Clay by Christopher Cleary.

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