1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, so big old day for the survivors of abuse 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: and state care today because the government through the Prime Minister, 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: finally apologized for this. And look, that is important. Look, 4 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: I know what they want is redress as well, a 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: whole bunch of them and fair enough, and that will come. 6 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: But an apology also is very important, especially when you 7 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: consider how long it is officially not being a big 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: deal that kids went through what they did while they 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: were in the state of care. For it to now 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: be acknowledged as yep, absolutely actually a big deal, and 11 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: for the state to admit it did wrong, I think 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: that's really important. Slightly Unfortunately, the day has been overshadowed 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: by the anger that's been directed at the Solicitor General today, 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: and I think this is going to be the thing 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: that everybody remembers about today. Really. Una Jugosi tried to 16 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: apologize herself today as the Solicitor General. She was booed 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: by survivors, She was heckled by survivors. One woman walked out, 18 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: another turned her back to the Solicitor General while she 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: was talking in a move of protest, and plenty of them. 20 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: The reason they're so angry is because they want her 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: stripped from her job. They accuse her of covering up 22 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: what really happened to them. Now, I'm not going to 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: tell these people that they're not entitled to feel angry, 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: because of course they are. But what we have to 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: remember when we're discussing the Solicitor General's role in this, 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: and even in a lower role previously as a Crown 27 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: lawyer before she became the Solicitor General, is that Crown lawyers, 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: Crown law, the Solicitor General, they are the government's lawyers, 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: right they act in the best interests of the Crown. 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty much the same as David Bain's lawyer, or 31 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: even Brenton Tarrant's lawyer, or should you or I be 32 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: accused of something significant our lawyers that our lawyers are 33 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: not there to look after everybody else. They are there 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: to look after us. They're working in the best interests 35 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: of their clients. And the same as true of Crown law. 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: It's really important context. When we feel angry at somebody 37 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: like the Solicitor General or Crown law for what they did, 38 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: I understand why Una je Gosi is copying it. Pretty 39 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: much the worst Today is much easier to pin the 40 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: blame on one person. Isn't it than to pin the 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: blame on a giant system like government, and especially when 42 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: you consider that government's change every few years. I mean, 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: one person is much easier to hold accountable than potentially 44 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: thousands of people for little bits that they did over decades. 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: And maybe it will make a lot of people feel 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot better if she loses her job. But remember this, 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: it's not like she going to fix anything, is it. 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: Not in the past, and not for kids who are 49 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: in state care in the future. And beware the quick 50 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: solution because the quick solution may create a false sense 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: that things have been fixed when they really haven't. And 52 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that things are actually fixed. 53 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: Isn't it more important than anything? She actually fronted up 54 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: today and so did the Prime Minister, and I say 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: that's got to be a good start. For more from 56 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: Heather du Classy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: that'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 58 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.